As a film student concentrating in cinematography, every time a new optimum video comes out I'm always excited to see the beautiful shots that you come up with. It really makes the video as satisfying to watch as it is to actually listen to. As always, wonderful work!
Right?! Idk how he does it but he makes it look seamless! Idk abt you but i genuinely forget im watching a video when watching these. It looks great. Both camera and shots wise
Nice to see you building an affordable pc again. I recently watched your older pc build videos on Lian Li Dan A4-H20 and CM NR200P Max and really liked those older style videos as you go through the details. This video is similar but with more efficient editing which is definitely appreciated!
Silicon Power Gaming 2x16GB 3200 DDR4 goes for $50-$60 these days. No thrills or RGB, simple kit. TeamGroup MP34 1TB is slightly cheaper but better drive than a Crucial P2 as far as budget options go. I have the white NR200 and loved using it, but I switched over to a SSUPD Meshroom S. Nice video, and glad you're showing people you can get a bang for buck PC.
5:23 I got a 5-set of those Arctic P12s following optimum's recommendation years ago and they're amazing. Got 2 intake, 2 exhaust, and 1 on my cpu cooler. Absolutely whisper quiet for the price.
I'm new to pcs (building them) and if I got a 5 pack of those fans would I need to get a special adapter or anything to plug all 5 fans into the motherboard or will there be 5 places to plug in all the fans. (sorry again I'm very new to this)
I built a system like this myself recently, but I did a dual rad custom loop in the NR200! Inspired by your triple rad build, but not quite as crazy, used the Barrow pump/block/res combo. Very happy with it!
I want to do this too I’m just wondering if there will be enough air being exhausted out, how are your temperatures? Do you have the two intake fans on the bottom too?
@@zynnertime1 yep, I have two p12 slims intaking on the bottom through a barrow dabel 20b slim rad. temps are in the high 70s to low 80s, which is pretty good for a 12600k/3080ti in such a tight loop!
This is crazy, I’m looking to build a new itx pc right now that’s maximizing price to performance and was just about to order parts and then you drop this video. Thank you Optimum.
I would go with Thermalright PS120SE CPU cooler. Costs about 40(22 if you can get it from Taobao) and performs at Noctua NH-D15 level all the while fitting in the NR200. The Hyper 212 is basically the bottom line for cpu cooler performance for cooler benchmarks.
@@stycks3008 I don't know what the max is, but Gamers Nexus did a review of the non-SE version (which is barely different from the SE) using a 3950X overclocked to 4.2GHz and running at 198 watts, and even when it was noise normalized to 35 decibels (which is equivalent to a quiet library) the average temperature under heavy load was around 77.4 degrees Celsius, which I believe is well within the safe margins. Basically it should be okay even for an i9 14900K so long as you limit the power consumption to roughly under 200 watts (you only lose less than 3% performance on average when limiting it to 200W vs stock 253W by the way).
@@stycks3008 It can cool any non HEDT CPU. This includes 13900k / 14900k. The CPU won't be drawing 300w with it but it should be over 250w. You're not gaining much more frequency boosting over 200w anyway let alone 250w.
If someone wants to replicate this build, then I would advise to change some of the parts because there are parts that are a better choice for the same or cheaper price. CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black -> Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE RAM: GSkill Trident Z Neo 16GB 3600 CL18 -> Corsair LPX 16GB 3600 CL18 SSD: Crucial P2 1TB -> Intel 670P 1TB The Thermalright Phantom Spirit is simply an amazing air cooler for the price that has similar performance to the legendary Noctua NH-D15. The Hyper 212 Black (2023) doesn't come close. The RAM changed to low profile because cheaper, fits better, and same specs. SSD changed because same capacity, DRAM cache, and cheaper.
@@LowKeyOfficialYT The T500 is a good SSD choice. The cooler will fit into the case. I have personally used the Thermalright Phantom Spirit inside the NR200P. There are some dependancies for the cooler. 1: If your RAM is too tall, then you'll have to use only 1 of the 2 CPU fans. If you want tall RAM, then 1 fan is perfectly acceptable if you have a Ryzen 5/Intel i5 CPU. But I highly advise getting low profile RAM 2: If the motherboard CPU socket is higher than average, then you might not be able to use a 25mm 120mm fan as top exhaust, and will have to use a 15mm slim fan instead. Most boards should not have this problem. 3: If you don't have sleeved flexible Power Supply cables then putting the 2nd fan above the RAM might pose a problem if you don't have excellent cable management.
@@DengKevin Hi Deng, any informtion about space using Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory and Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler? Thanks!
I bought a 12600k at launch and just recently upgraded during Black Friday. Still a very good CPU and for $150 an insane value. Still has great performance and is fairly easy to cool.
Dude I have to thank you so much for this. My little sister wants to build an itx pc but I havent learned how to fit so much into a SFF case before, watching this was relieving and actually perfect for the budget she is planning for. THANK YOU!!!
Man, your videos never disappoint. Been here since you had just 100k subs - so amazing to see everyone realize how impressive this channel is. Ive built a few PCs based on your guides and followed them exactly. You are the reason I got into SFF builds, cheers man and happy holidays!
In case anyone is planning on building this build the arcitc p12s warp at high RPMs and interfere with the bottom of the case so i would recommend using something like a hard drive anti vibration rubber piece between the fans and case for spacing
@@_Error_702_I'm more inclined to think this is the real issue here. Besides, fan motion should expand the blades towards the sides, not below. Most likely what's happening to OP is the blades were always touching the case but is noticeable at high rpms
I built in this case recently and I have to say, cable managing the PSU is _very_ important if you've got a card like an FE with a passthrough fan. Otherwise you risk those cables coming out of the PSU dropping straight into that fan. Not a concern at all with normal dual/triple fan cards. I ended up using slim noctua fans on top as exhaust and rotating the CPU cooler 90 degrees to exhaust upwards as well (Noctua will give you a 90 degree adapter for free if you're using one of their products) for negative pressure since the case includes dust filters for the bottom and both sides. Built a little 7700x/4070ti mobile gaming rig and I'm very happy with the result, the NR200P was fun to build in
Dude, I love your content and production quality - Pacing is nice , not exhaustingly fast, colors are wonderful, your voice and talking speed are great. I'd watch this even if I wasn't into building PC's. Thank you and have a wonderful day!
@@Unleashed75the gpu is 2 years old and used, it is a FE which is not that great of a cooling design and the person whos selling it is probably self-conscious that no one will buy it if he sets the price too high
ive bought multiple for $320-$350 all of them perfectly fine, and if you want to spend a bit more than $400, for $500-$600 you can get a 3090 which has 24gb and is better at handling AI and better for actual powerusers
I kinda understand why people are going with 30 series cards. But I also feel like the framegeneration etc whether we like it or not is going to be so big in games that people are buying older gen cards that will very quickly become obsolete despite being great on paper.
@@3choblast3r4 unless you play 4k max settings you dont need frame gen, the 3080 is still a great gpu still keeping up w the 4070 and even beats it if its the 12gb version
Pretty much a top tier build and great choices! My input would be to maybe take a look at Thermalrights CPU coolers, since they're also budget friendly.
I built my rig for around $1000 (a little less even) and have the following: i5-12600K Corsair 3000D Airflow Case TH240V2 AIO MSI Ventus 2X RTX 3060 12GB 32gb DDR4-3600 (8gbx4) running at 3200mhz for stability Corsair RM750e PSU WD Blue 1tb m.2 NVMe drive ASrock B760M PRO RS/D4 motherboard Runs great. I think I chose my parts well.
The tempered glass version also fits with this cooler (but might be out of budget). You just need to take off the decorative caps at the top of the heatsink which cover the heat pipes (two screws on the top plate) - I run a similar build but with a Ryzen 5600 and rtx 3070 with two fans on the top and get temps around 65c-70c when gaming under load. While the TG does turn things into a little hotbox, I just can't resist staring at what I've built, I'm a sucker for the RGB lighting!
I think I saw a video from machines and more, where a GPU Deshroud actually performed a bit better with tg panel because it forced the air around to cool stuff above GPU instead of letting it out with the mesh panel
@@magnuswf but in itx you should set up upper or lower fans as such they work as exhaust and push cool air inside case through side panels if you have mesh rather than tg.
@@magnuswf not really if your itx case has place to fit fans both top and bottom then put top as exhaust and bottom as intake (can feed graphics card directly air) thus mesh panels help in intake air as air is pushed outward from top. if you can place fans only on one side of case ie top or bottom take them as exhaust (prefer mesh panels) cause it promotes cool air to come though mesh panels. (itx only with mesh panes) ie good airflow
Great setup at this budget. I have this exact case and couldn't be happier with it. In terms of temperature management, it stands out as one of the best ITX cases available, albeit slightly larger. With that said, based on my testing and based on the testing done by Machines & More, I recommend moving the 2 bottom fans to the top for the best temps. The bottom fans are mostly optional and primarily contribute to reducing GPU temps during idle, likely due to modern GPU fans not spinning at idle. Additionally, make sure you have enough room at the bottom for the standard 120mm fans. In my case, I have the Asus RTX 4070 Dual, which is roughly a 2.5-slot GPU, and I can only accommodate slim fans. Standard fans already come into contact with the GPU, which is suboptimal for minimizing turbulence.
Yep, exactly. I don't understand why optimum never recommends amd GPUs ever. I've seen a couple amd cpus, but even here like you said the 5600x is simply just better than the 12600k, especially considering how terrible the memory controllers are on 12th gen intel.
Great stuff, and great timing. Was looking for a new PC for around this budget and already eyeing that particular case. Appreciate you going through the setup as well!
I have a very similar build to this already. I'd like to add that the NVME can get quite toasty in there. Mine is currently idling at around 65c. I have one of the baby Noctua fans coming to sit on top of the NVME heatsink, as you've shown in a previous vid they are quite effective
thank you so much for sharing Fan Controls! i can’t believe i’ve never heard of it before, i remember using argus monitor years ago but it was dated and only had a free trial
Just wanna throw it out there, if you made a second channel of nothing but ads i'd sub solely to help keep this channel how it is. i finally built my first pc and don't feel like i went broke solely off the reassurance i get from this channel
Personal opinion. The ryzen 7600 should be your default cpu. It allows upgrades in the future to at least 3 more confirmed cpu generations with just a bios update. 7600 $200 b650 wifi board $120 and 32gb ddr5 6000 cl32 for $100 which works best with the ryzen infinity fabric. Thats a full platform for $420 that has at least 3 generations of support with a possibility to be extended as amd already extended am5 from 2024+ to 2025+. 12th gen intel is a dead end that doesnt save you that much money
Love this build. The Thermalright peerless assassin is only $30 and destroys that cooler master hyper 212. And a $10 cpu contact frame would further lower temps
He used it cause he got it for free from cooler master, but it happened to fit within his budget. Edit: I'm saying that he probably had most of this stuff laying around and decided to create a build video with it.
BRAVO! I couldn't do it better. We usually use i3 PCs for typical office work cost us around $700, but for an i5 mid-level office work, yours is the best bang for buck. Can't wait to see your i7 PC best bang for buck. I was about to thumb you down when I saw the RTX 3080!
Awesome video as always Optimum. Is there a reason that you set the GPU intake fans to not go over 70% utilisation? Is there a point of diminising returns after 70% fan speed vs noise created?
One strange missing piece from this video at the end is that the NR200 does come with fans. A 120mm and 92mm fan with the base case model. They're not the quietest fans out there, but for getting started on a budget they're fine. For better fans, another user said the Arctic fans can come in multipacks for great savings.
Wow, i spent 3k on a setup that was just slightly more powerful. This was in 2020 of course. 32 gb cl18 ram, 5900x, 3080ti strix, 4+2 tb pcie4 m.2 ssd. Its been great for gaming, code compilation and writing code, video editing, and some 3d modeling. My previous pc was a i7 4790k with a GTX 970, a 1 TB HDD, and 16gb of RAM, so that in and of itself was a huge upgrade. Id like to wait for 1 or two more generatiojs of GPUs before upgrading again
at micro center, i'm pretty sure they're still running mobo+cpu+ram combos for 400 usd. you can either get a 7700x, 32 gigs of ddr5 ram, and a b650 mobo or a 12900k, 32 gigs of ddr5 ram, and a z790 mobo. you will need to get a more mid range gpu tho, which means that maybe its not the best price to performance combo? anything like a 6700xt should fit in the budget fine
Bro, this is the shit. This is what I love to see. Not everyone can afford the highest end stuff, and this is an amazing configuration for the price, especially considering the ITX form factor. Great video, man.
thank you, i too planning to continue what been done, but all devices are in development mode so nothing can be done except showing what already uploaded
I would honestly just try anything to stretch to a ryzen 7600. Improved performance and significantly better upgrade path aside, you would probably save money on the power bill alone.
love for the NR200. Got the NR400 myself and back then, after was surprised this case is not more talked about. Budget and soo good to work in, great quality and airflow
poor advice... only 16GB RAM but with RGB?! Who cares about RGB in a budget build? Rather take 32GB non-RGB? Especially DDR4-3200 sticks are damn cheap, it wouldn't have broken the budget.
Dude, the difference between 16 to 32gb is a huge jump when you compare it to the $5 he spent on the tiniest bit of rgb. It's not even a set in stone build. Build it how you want it.
@@Cainny if you/he care about saving $5 then you shouldn't spend it on RGB at all. RGB is useless and just a way of wasting money if you don't care about it.
I love your videos seriously learned more from you in by watching 3 videos of you then 2 weeks searching on google and reading what peoples say on reddit, i would love a video from you where you explain like you always do in every little detail how to build a pc from scratch from putting cpu to thermal paste to installing every software and overclocking would be so good to see
It’s makes me so happy to see you using the 3080. I used the same CPU, GPU combo in an ITX form factor in my recent build after years of not using a PC.
I have this case. And just rebuilt it with a 7800x3d and kept my 3080.. Two noctua fans on the top and was able to fit a noctua NH-U12A for my CPU cooler - metal side panel, glass wouldn't fit. If you want a cheap itx case that's bigger than the tiny cases (coming from a Ghost s1), it's fantastic. Good budget build.
750w platinum. I'm using a plug in meter to test my case. With nothing overclocked and ram at 4800, I get around 440 watts max after 1hr of tests and games. With ram at 6000 OC and graphics card slightly OC, hit 500 watts, but just. Without water cooling pumps and a larger motherboard it stays very low power. It's also very cool.
I LOVE the NR200 (the case). I've built in it twice, once for my own build and once for my girlfriend's. Don't get me wrong, it's a tight fit if you've never done a small build before. But it's such a nice case for the price that it's hard to justify anything more expensive. The only thing I will say that I miss is a USB-C port on the top. However, if you get a good motherboard you can have that on the back, so even that's not too much of a concern. Great video, as always. Incredible cinematography, as always.
hey a built a super similar build earlier this year! inspired by your sff build videos. I went all AMD with a R5 7600 and RX 6800. build came out over $1500 because I bought everything new. this was also in January this year so it was a different market. love to see that I got the fan configuration right for an air cooled build in the NR200
Your videos are always well-edited and loaded with interesting information. It's amazing to see a 1440p build around a grand that provides that level of performance and reliability.
If you can I strongly encourage promoting tipping that dude that made fan control. Its a badass beast of a program that has saved dozens of builds I have done for people. Without it I would have likely had many complaints from friends and family about how atrocious their fan curve noise was. But 5 minutes teaching them and they have all been impressed enough to kick him a buck or two each. Thats all it takes!
I just built a $2000 build with the NR200 so that case is definitely not too old even for high end. I have a RTX 4080 and 7800x3D in there and temps are amazing. I searched for a more premium case in the 15-20 liter range but really couldn’t find anything to compete with it.
As a film student concentrating in cinematography, every time a new optimum video comes out I'm always excited to see the beautiful shots that you come up with. It really makes the video as satisfying to watch as it is to actually listen to. As always, wonderful work!
Right?! Idk how he does it but he makes it look seamless! Idk abt you but i genuinely forget im watching a video when watching these. It looks great. Both camera and shots wise
He's really great at shooting film. It's always a joy to watch.
drop out now, what a waste of time to study film lol. just go make stuff, man!
@@gdfan618???
@@gdfan618 deadset, almost as bad as those kids going to Uni for twitch streaming
Nice to see you building an affordable pc again. I recently watched your older pc build videos on Lian Li Dan A4-H20 and CM NR200P Max and really liked those older style videos as you go through the details. This video is similar but with more efficient editing which is definitely appreciated!
Genuinely impressed by what you're able to do at this budget.
im not. cpu is 300 USD in my area and 3080s are around 800-1200 USD
@@ltshazaama used 3080 is sub 500
@@Sheltur_0311 check the links, the video isn't using used parts. If he did, the budget cap would be even lower.
if he went with an atx build and a used 5600x insead of the 12600k he'd easily save over 200
@@bobbyn946atx is boring
also 5600X is a quite a bit slower
Silicon Power Gaming 2x16GB 3200 DDR4 goes for $50-$60 these days. No thrills or RGB, simple kit. TeamGroup MP34 1TB is slightly cheaper but better drive than a Crucial P2 as far as budget options go. I have the white NR200 and loved using it, but I switched over to a SSUPD Meshroom S. Nice video, and glad you're showing people you can get a bang for buck PC.
Dude your production value is insane. Keep up the great work.
At 42 seconds there's a cat hair stuck to his nail.
@@johndavis29209 You have very keen eyes
learn a new word
5:23 I got a 5-set of those Arctic P12s following optimum's recommendation years ago and they're amazing. Got 2 intake, 2 exhaust, and 1 on my cpu cooler. Absolutely whisper quiet for the price.
I'm new to pcs (building them) and if I got a 5 pack of those fans would I need to get a special adapter or anything to plug all 5 fans into the motherboard or will there be 5 places to plug in all the fans. (sorry again I'm very new to this)
@@andrxew depends on your motherboard. Look up the manual online and search for little pins on the diagram labeled "fan_#" or something of the sort.
@@andrxewbuy an arctic fan hub
@@andrxewdepends on how many fan header slots your motherboard has. You’ll probably need a fan splitter
@@andrxewthey support daisy chaining so you’ll only need 1 or 2 fan headers on your motherboard
I built a system like this myself recently, but I did a dual rad custom loop in the NR200! Inspired by your triple rad build, but not quite as crazy, used the Barrow pump/block/res combo. Very happy with it!
I've been considering doing something similar in mine. You should send pics.
I want to do this too I’m just wondering if there will be enough air being exhausted out, how are your temperatures? Do you have the two intake fans on the bottom too?
@@zynnertime1 yep, I have two p12 slims intaking on the bottom through a barrow dabel 20b slim rad. temps are in the high 70s to low 80s, which is pretty good for a 12600k/3080ti in such a tight loop!
This channel should grow rapidly. It Checks all the boxes of a super good tech channel. He explains thoroughly about every important detail
This is crazy, I’m looking to build a new itx pc right now that’s maximizing price to performance and was just about to order parts and then you drop this video. Thank you Optimum.
how much did you spend ?😅
You mean performance to price? Lol
happy to see that you are playing the finals! amazing value and quality of video as usual
Making the video exactly 9:59 is such a power move honestly
it’s 10:00 tho
9:59 for me@@nolo5220
@@nolo5220 10:00 on the thumbnail, 9:59 on watch page.
Monetization limit is 8 mins now
mate we arent in 2015 anymore. they changed the ad limit timeframe.
Thanks for going through all the installation process!
This was amazing to watch. Looking forward to more budget builds in the future! 👍
Really great vid - best $1000 build guide out today maybe.
I would go with Thermalright PS120SE CPU cooler. Costs about 40(22 if you can get it from Taobao) and performs at Noctua NH-D15 level all the while fitting in the NR200. The Hyper 212 is basically the bottom line for cpu cooler performance for cooler benchmarks.
Yep. Forgo the RGB strip light to budget for the Peerless cooler if you're _really_ trying to keep it under $1000
Yeah the price on the hyper 212 looks ok until you see the thermalright coolers
curious whats the max cpu for the pa120se?
@@stycks3008 I don't know what the max is, but Gamers Nexus did a review of the non-SE version (which is barely different from the SE) using a 3950X overclocked to 4.2GHz and running at 198 watts, and even when it was noise normalized to 35 decibels (which is equivalent to a quiet library) the average temperature under heavy load was around 77.4 degrees Celsius, which I believe is well within the safe margins.
Basically it should be okay even for an i9 14900K so long as you limit the power consumption to roughly under 200 watts (you only lose less than 3% performance on average when limiting it to 200W vs stock 253W by the way).
@@stycks3008 It can cool any non HEDT CPU. This includes 13900k / 14900k. The CPU won't be drawing 300w with it but it should be over 250w. You're not gaining much more frequency boosting over 200w anyway let alone 250w.
hands down best Tech channel. built my 4090 and 5800x3d in that case. cant recommend it and this channel enough.
If someone wants to replicate this build, then I would advise to change some of the parts because there are parts that are a better choice for the same or cheaper price.
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black -> Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE
RAM: GSkill Trident Z Neo 16GB 3600 CL18 -> Corsair LPX 16GB 3600 CL18
SSD: Crucial P2 1TB -> Intel 670P 1TB
The Thermalright Phantom Spirit is simply an amazing air cooler for the price that has similar performance to the legendary Noctua NH-D15. The Hyper 212 Black (2023) doesn't come close.
The RAM changed to low profile because cheaper, fits better, and same specs. SSD changed because same capacity, DRAM cache, and cheaper.
will the cooler fit okay? it seems larger than the one he mentioned.
Also I am going with the T500 2TB from Crucial instead of either of the ones you and optimum said.
@@LowKeyOfficialYT The T500 is a good SSD choice.
The cooler will fit into the case. I have personally used the Thermalright Phantom Spirit inside the NR200P.
There are some dependancies for the cooler.
1: If your RAM is too tall, then you'll have to use only 1 of the 2 CPU fans. If you want tall RAM, then 1 fan is perfectly acceptable if you have a Ryzen 5/Intel i5 CPU. But I highly advise getting low profile RAM
2: If the motherboard CPU socket is higher than average, then you might not be able to use a 25mm 120mm fan as top exhaust, and will have to use a 15mm slim fan instead. Most boards should not have this problem.
3: If you don't have sleeved flexible Power Supply cables then putting the 2nd fan above the RAM might pose a problem if you don't have excellent cable management.
@DengKevin Also, thanks for not only responding but with a well written comment and 5 months later.
@@DengKevin Hi Deng, any informtion about space using Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory and Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler? Thanks!
If you're a smart shopper, you can get a 6900XT for the price of a 3080. And it curb-stomps the poor 3080, while using less power
I’ll take DLSS 3 over 4% more rasterization
@@JADC1111 3080 dont have dlss 3, only 2
@@Godzilla-ej3ql this isn’t true. 3000 series cards have access to DLSS 3 just not frame generation
will it fit in the casse tho cuz i might be going for what you said
Funny how 6900xt costs 1400 usd in india.
The video quality nice and clean, it's feels so good to watch.
Optimum literally never fails to amaze me with his builds
I bought a 12600k at launch and just recently upgraded during Black Friday. Still a very good CPU and for $150 an insane value. Still has great performance and is fairly easy to cool.
Dude I have to thank you so much for this. My little sister wants to build an itx pc but I havent learned how to fit so much into a SFF case before, watching this was relieving and actually perfect for the budget she is planning for. THANK YOU!!!
so much effort packed into a bite sized video with amazing production quality! keep on going.
Man, your videos never disappoint. Been here since you had just 100k subs - so amazing to see everyone realize how impressive this channel is. Ive built a few PCs based on your guides and followed them exactly. You are the reason I got into SFF builds, cheers man and happy holidays!
In case anyone is planning on building this build the arcitc p12s warp at high RPMs and interfere with the bottom of the case so i would recommend using something like a hard drive anti vibration rubber piece between the fans and case for spacing
Or get the P12 max, they have a ring around the outside of the blades and built in dampers.
@@_Error_702_I'm more inclined to think this is the real issue here. Besides, fan motion should expand the blades towards the sides, not below. Most likely what's happening to OP is the blades were always touching the case but is noticeable at high rpms
I have the exact combo P12 and NR200 and mine don‘t warp. YMMV.
@@TheAnoniemoCan't recommend the Max, they have shot qc, at least half of them have really noisy bearings. I ordered 4 and all had the same issue.
@@ZenTunE- the four I got are all fine. I can't imagine the QC is different than any other Arctic fans.
I built in this case recently and I have to say, cable managing the PSU is _very_ important if you've got a card like an FE with a passthrough fan. Otherwise you risk those cables coming out of the PSU dropping straight into that fan. Not a concern at all with normal dual/triple fan cards.
I ended up using slim noctua fans on top as exhaust and rotating the CPU cooler 90 degrees to exhaust upwards as well (Noctua will give you a 90 degree adapter for free if you're using one of their products) for negative pressure since the case includes dust filters for the bottom and both sides. Built a little 7700x/4070ti mobile gaming rig and I'm very happy with the result, the NR200P was fun to build in
The quality of your editing is insane dude! Best tech youtuber out there for sure.
Love that black and white look contrast of the open case with the Black Coolermaster Cooler.
why are these videos so damn clean
Your videos are so peaceful and calming to watch. Thanks for such high quality content!
He ain't pregnant but he is delivering
Insanely impressive build and design. Well done!
I got the Zeromouse and i love it!. Great work optimum!🔥
Dude, I love your content and production quality - Pacing is nice , not exhaustingly fast, colors are wonderful, your voice and talking speed are great. I'd watch this even if I wasn't into building PC's. Thank you and have a wonderful day!
An absolute bonkers build for 1k! Holy, nice work... The 3080 is such a good GPU and great value for $400.
Buying a 3080 for that price, I would have concerns
@@Unleashed75the gpu is 2 years old and used, it is a FE which is not that great of a cooling design and the person whos selling it is probably self-conscious that no one will buy it if he sets the price too high
ive bought multiple for $320-$350 all of them perfectly fine, and if you want to spend a bit more than $400, for $500-$600 you can get a 3090 which has 24gb and is better at handling AI and better for actual powerusers
I kinda understand why people are going with 30 series cards. But I also feel like the framegeneration etc whether we like it or not is going to be so big in games that people are buying older gen cards that will very quickly become obsolete despite being great on paper.
@@3choblast3r4 unless you play 4k max settings you dont need frame gen, the 3080 is still a great gpu still keeping up w the 4070 and even beats it if its the 12gb version
after building a full-size atx pc now I am loving these mini itx builds, you can bring your beast anywhere......
Pretty much a top tier build and great choices! My input would be to maybe take a look at Thermalrights CPU coolers, since they're also budget friendly.
I built my rig for around $1000 (a little less even) and have the following:
i5-12600K
Corsair 3000D Airflow Case
TH240V2 AIO
MSI Ventus 2X RTX 3060 12GB
32gb DDR4-3600 (8gbx4) running at 3200mhz for stability
Corsair RM750e PSU
WD Blue 1tb m.2 NVMe drive
ASrock B760M PRO RS/D4 motherboard
Runs great. I think I chose my parts well.
The tempered glass version also fits with this cooler (but might be out of budget). You just need to take off the decorative caps at the top of the heatsink which cover the heat pipes (two screws on the top plate) - I run a similar build but with a Ryzen 5600 and rtx 3070 with two fans on the top and get temps around 65c-70c when gaming under load. While the TG does turn things into a little hotbox, I just can't resist staring at what I've built, I'm a sucker for the RGB lighting!
I think I saw a video from machines and more, where a GPU Deshroud actually performed a bit better with tg panel because it forced the air around to cool stuff above GPU instead of letting it out with the mesh panel
@@magnuswf but in itx you should set up upper or lower fans as such they work as exhaust and push cool air inside case through side panels if you have mesh rather than tg.
@@SarthakNarnaulia not sure i follow. You mean intake through mesh sidepanel and both top and bottom as exhaust?
@@magnuswf not really if your itx case has place to fit fans both top and bottom then put top as exhaust and bottom as intake (can feed graphics card directly air) thus mesh panels help in intake air as air is pushed outward from top. if you can place fans only on one side of case ie top or bottom take them as exhaust (prefer mesh panels) cause it promotes cool air to come though mesh panels. (itx only with mesh panes) ie good airflow
@@SarthakNarnaulia thats exactly what i meant from the beginning, though with tg
I just built my nephew this exact same setup for his first PC for Christmas. Great hardware market right now.
Great setup at this budget. I have this exact case and couldn't be happier with it. In terms of temperature management, it stands out as one of the best ITX cases available, albeit slightly larger.
With that said, based on my testing and based on the testing done by Machines & More, I recommend moving the 2 bottom fans to the top for the best temps.
The bottom fans are mostly optional and primarily contribute to reducing GPU temps during idle, likely due to modern GPU fans not spinning at idle. Additionally, make sure you have enough room at the bottom for the standard 120mm fans. In my case, I have the Asus RTX 4070 Dual, which is roughly a 2.5-slot GPU, and I can only accommodate slim fans. Standard fans already come into contact with the GPU, which is suboptimal for minimizing turbulence.
Awesome build. The second you mentioned the combo of parts I knew this was gonna be a fantastic combo.
meh, ryzen 5600X is about 150€ rn, best value by far. With the savings you get a new 6700XT and can game at 1440p and even ultrawide 1440p comfy.
Yep, exactly. I don't understand why optimum never recommends amd GPUs ever. I've seen a couple amd cpus, but even here like you said the 5600x is simply just better than the 12600k, especially considering how terrible the memory controllers are on 12th gen intel.
What mobo you using?
It's almost a year later but the ryzen 5700x3d was $180 the other day and seems to perform shockingly well.
This is a sick build. Also I've been loving my zeromouse while playing the finals. Can't wait for the next version.
1k until the second you’re not in the US…
fr! for me it costs almost 2k
So real
I’m from Europe and the pc just costs roughly over 1100 euros now what the hell are y’all talking about
@@Mister-Toaster different countries have different prices
@@RubineSM you guys are wayyy up
NR200/P is my favorite case. I’ve built in 3 of them and each time is an absolute delight.
Great stuff, and great timing. Was looking for a new PC for around this budget and already eyeing that particular case. Appreciate you going through the setup as well!
It just amazes me how good your build are for the money, wow
I have a very similar build to this already. I'd like to add that the NVME can get quite toasty in there. Mine is currently idling at around 65c. I have one of the baby Noctua fans coming to sit on top of the NVME heatsink, as you've shown in a previous vid they are quite effective
thank you so much for sharing Fan Controls! i can’t believe i’ve never heard of it before, i remember using argus monitor years ago but it was dated and only had a free trial
As always, great and fun content from Optimum
cute comment
@@VinnyUnion Thank you!
I'm again overexcited for this amount of determination put in a single video
400$ for a 3080?
Not in Australia!
Very common to find used 3080 for $400 in the US
@@serpserpserpyes he is talking about usd not aud and if you calculate it they are the exact same price
Yeah, I got mine for $400 (320 purchase, $20 tax, $60 S&H)
Just wanna throw it out there, if you made a second channel of nothing but ads i'd sub solely to help keep this channel how it is. i finally built my first pc and don't feel like i went broke solely off the reassurance i get from this channel
Personal opinion. The ryzen 7600 should be your default cpu. It allows upgrades in the future to at least 3 more confirmed cpu generations with just a bios update. 7600 $200 b650 wifi board $120 and 32gb ddr5 6000 cl32 for $100 which works best with the ryzen infinity fabric. Thats a full platform for $420 that has at least 3 generations of support with a possibility to be extended as amd already extended am5 from 2024+ to 2025+. 12th gen intel is a dead end that doesnt save you that much money
Beautiful and very capable build. Well worth the money.
Love this build. The Thermalright peerless assassin is only $30 and destroys that cooler master hyper 212. And a $10 cpu contact frame would further lower temps
He used it cause he got it for free from cooler master, but it happened to fit within his budget. Edit: I'm saying that he probably had most of this stuff laying around and decided to create a build video with it.
@@phlips11 you're probably right
BRAVO! I couldn't do it better. We usually use i3 PCs for typical office work cost us around $700, but for an i5 mid-level office work, yours is the best bang for buck. Can't wait to see your i7 PC best bang for buck. I was about to thumb you down when I saw the RTX 3080!
Awesome video as always Optimum. Is there a reason that you set the GPU intake fans to not go over 70% utilisation? Is there a point of diminising returns after 70% fan speed vs noise created?
Probably just testing to see where temps are still decent, and noise are obnoxious at high fan level.
This good old NR200/NR200p boy, so many possibilities, what a pleasure to build with it
1 view & 6 seconds ago? bless the youtube algorithm
Okay this is incredible BUT how are you so good at literally everything????
The ryzen 7600 is a better pick. It is equal to a 5800x3D in gaming and compute, use way less power than intel and AM5 will last way longer.
One strange missing piece from this video at the end is that the NR200 does come with fans. A 120mm and 92mm fan with the base case model. They're not the quietest fans out there, but for getting started on a budget they're fine. For better fans, another user said the Arctic fans can come in multipacks for great savings.
Where can I find your undervolt guide? 🙂
Best channel ever for anything related to PCs
Wow, i spent 3k on a setup that was just slightly more powerful. This was in 2020 of course. 32 gb cl18 ram, 5900x, 3080ti strix, 4+2 tb pcie4 m.2 ssd. Its been great for gaming, code compilation and writing code, video editing, and some 3d modeling. My previous pc was a i7 4790k with a GTX 970, a 1 TB HDD, and 16gb of RAM, so that in and of itself was a huge upgrade. Id like to wait for 1 or two more generatiojs of GPUs before upgrading again
I've never heard of fan controller! Thanks for sharing that, I'll have to try it out!
at micro center, i'm pretty sure they're still running mobo+cpu+ram combos for 400 usd. you can either get a 7700x, 32 gigs of ddr5 ram, and a b650 mobo or a 12900k, 32 gigs of ddr5 ram, and a z790 mobo. you will need to get a more mid range gpu tho, which means that maybe its not the best price to performance combo? anything like a 6700xt should fit in the budget fine
Bro, this is the shit. This is what I love to see. Not everyone can afford the highest end stuff, and this is an amazing configuration for the price, especially considering the ITX form factor. Great video, man.
thank you, i too planning to continue what been done, but all devices are in development mode so nothing can be done except showing what already uploaded
i kind of agree that theyre sort of unqualified graphically, so waiting for teams works then record again
I would honestly just try anything to stretch to a ryzen 7600.
Improved performance and significantly better upgrade path aside, you would probably save money on the power bill alone.
love for the NR200. Got the NR400 myself and back then, after was surprised this case is not more talked about. Budget and soo good to work in, great quality and airflow
many generic matx cases are cheaper than nr400. such as tecware m2
1000$ PC for american
3000$ PC for not american
This channel is so good, always excited for a new video,
poor advice... only 16GB RAM but with RGB?! Who cares about RGB in a budget build? Rather take 32GB non-RGB? Especially DDR4-3200 sticks are damn cheap, it wouldn't have broken the budget.
Dude, the difference between 16 to 32gb is a huge jump when you compare it to the $5 he spent on the tiniest bit of rgb. It's not even a set in stone build. Build it how you want it.
@@Cainny if you/he care about saving $5 then you shouldn't spend it on RGB at all. RGB is useless and just a way of wasting money if you don't care about it.
I love your videos seriously learned more from you in by watching 3 videos of you then 2 weeks searching on google and reading what peoples say on reddit, i would love a video from you where you explain like you always do in every little detail how to build a pc from scratch from putting cpu to thermal paste to installing every software and overclocking would be so good to see
a 3080 for $400 haha not a chance
What?
glad to see NR200 builds, even in 2024!!
It’s makes me so happy to see you using the 3080. I used the same CPU, GPU combo in an ITX form factor in my recent build after years of not using a PC.
I have this case. And just rebuilt it with a 7800x3d and kept my 3080.. Two noctua fans on the top and was able to fit a noctua NH-U12A for my CPU cooler - metal side panel, glass wouldn't fit. If you want a cheap itx case that's bigger than the tiny cases (coming from a Ghost s1), it's fantastic. Good budget build.
How much psu u got?
750w platinum. I'm using a plug in meter to test my case. With nothing overclocked and ram at 4800, I get around 440 watts max after 1hr of tests and games. With ram at 6000 OC and graphics card slightly OC, hit 500 watts, but just. Without water cooling pumps and a larger motherboard it stays very low power. It's also very cool.
Sent this to a mate who was thinking about getting a new computer. Great video.
Your finals gameplay looks insane
I LOVE the NR200 (the case). I've built in it twice, once for my own build and once for my girlfriend's. Don't get me wrong, it's a tight fit if you've never done a small build before. But it's such a nice case for the price that it's hard to justify anything more expensive. The only thing I will say that I miss is a USB-C port on the top. However, if you get a good motherboard you can have that on the back, so even that's not too much of a concern.
Great video, as always. Incredible cinematography, as always.
hey a built a super similar build earlier this year! inspired by your sff build videos. I went all AMD with a R5 7600 and RX 6800. build came out over $1500 because I bought everything new. this was also in January this year so it was a different market. love to see that I got the fan configuration right for an air cooled build in the NR200
Your videos are always well-edited and loaded with interesting information. It's amazing to see a 1440p build around a grand that provides that level of performance and reliability.
Your videos are top tier. Just did a 5600x with Arc770 16gb for 600$ on Black Friday. Thanks for all you do
It looks like a great components choice and a very descriptive build process.
you should make meta builds or updates to the meta every 3-6 months. Would be really helpful for someone like me and others.
I'm not really a fan of heavy rgb, so this build is absolutely perfect for me. The small form factor will make it easier to fit on my desk, too.
I built the same setup for my brother a few months ago and haven't regretted it
AMAZING VIDEO! It's so nice having such quality information that I don't have to go find for myself XD. Thank you!
Sweet build! Nice video.
just bought a nr200p. perfect guide to get me started.
Exact build I am going for all thanks to you. Trust by the end of 2024, I am going to have this exact build or better!
This has to be the best PC build guide i have ever seen.
I have seen tons of PC builds but always get excited when you do PC build videos!
Nice content man! Your reviews are never boring and your editing is top notch. New sub!
If you can I strongly encourage promoting tipping that dude that made fan control. Its a badass beast of a program that has saved dozens of builds I have done for people. Without it I would have likely had many complaints from friends and family about how atrocious their fan curve noise was. But 5 minutes teaching them and they have all been impressed enough to kick him a buck or two each. Thats all it takes!
I just built a $2000 build with the NR200 so that case is definitely not too old even for high end. I have a RTX 4080 and 7800x3D in there and temps are amazing. I searched for a more premium case in the 15-20 liter range but really couldn’t find anything to compete with it.
What mobo and ram kit did you go with? I'm currently researching a similar build list. Thanks in advance!
Awesome build. Great Job.