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Why are you advertising Asus boards with 7000X3D cpus with the issues around them together. I get if the video was shot before it BUT take out the affiliate links at least from the video description and this comment.
The SSD bending is because there's space for a double sided SSD, but a single sided one is thinner so it doesn't make contact with the thermal pad underneath and gets pushed in by the cooler. But ASUS have actually accounted for that and they include a rubber spacer which you can install underneath a single sided SSD to support it and stop it bending. It's not well-advertised but if you look in the accessories box it should be there, and there's a page in the manual showing where to put it. Alternatively you can just add another layer of thermal pad if you lose the spacer.
Love the build... and the unconscious screwdriver flip at 2:45... he didn't drop it! Also, I cringed when Linus brushed those screws aside. Glad their was a lesson to be learned there. Respect another's workspace, Linus!
I really like these small form factor builds. I've never built a small form factor myself though...I usually build in mid or full tower cases. Could you guys do a video on how you go about selecting components for a small form factor build and ensuring that everything will fit in the case (theoretically)?
Pretty straight forward honestly, most ITX cases only fit SFX PSU, ITX motherboards, and the showcase on the website will tell you what size cooling and fans will fit. Oh, and also consider the GPU won't always fit for a three-fan or higher-end GPU. There is virtually no way to make a blanketed approach to ITX as each company deals with it differently.
@@califa213239 Also almost all product listings - especially on the manufacturer's website - will give dimensions. Case manufactures, esp in SFF cases, will usually give max length/height/width dimensions for GPU slots. I still try to undershoot a tiny bit so I don't have to do like they did in this video and partially disassemble the case.
My trick for warranty stickers is to take the bad boy out, and cut out a new sticker using a blank thermal shipping label and an xacto knife. Its brand new adhesive so sticks great, works everytime
I've used White Cooler Master NR200 for my build. It's 18.25L case, looks nice and clean on my desk. But man, it fits Arctic liquid freezer II 280 AIO (the radiator thickness is 35mm, regular AIOs has 25mm), 4080 FE, R9 5950X (I built it before Ryzen 7000 series has come out). It's almost silent, idle CPU temp is 33 degrees Celsius, overclocked 100% load about 81. Without overclocking 100% load never above 71 no matter for how long.
I love my hulking beast that required me to source a desk with a slot big enough to fit it (barely), but it's still really cool to see these smaller form factors being fleshed out and developed. I'm a big case for life stan, but this is great for my smaller case brethren!
I did a build in the LianLi + DanCase A4 and it is the nicest build I've personally ever done. I would never go back to a full-size case for a gaming PC and I've been recommending Dan cases to everyone I know.
The problem I had with my last itx build wasn't cpu or gpu temps but the pch temp. Bigger boards have heatsinks on them but itx boards have no space. Shame smaller builds are more expensive too, they look better.
9:22 I'm gonna guess other people mentioned this already, but if you're missing a screw or whatever it was at the end of this video, here's the time stamp. I can't wait to see if he notices.
I also assembled my own mini ATX setup, it is pretty light weight, doesnt take as much space as a common tower one and temps are still cool due to undervolting of CPU and GPU. Would recommend!
That bent SSD is a big problem on Asus motherboards. I have an Intel SFF board from Asus and the bend was so severe I ended up padding the underside with several layers of heat transfer strips. Don't know why they think a bend like thst is OK.
I think the A4 H20 remains my favorite SFF case. It's tiny and it's meant for water cooling, but I went with air cooling and it was so fun to build in.
Hey linus, we need a keyboard video, my 1 year old G413 carbon has already started to give up with dust entering the censors and keys behaving strangely and games tabbing out by themselves. i went online to look for a new keyboard and most of them are up towards 200$ is there really nothing cheaper?
Holy fuck, the videos now have Latam Spanish dub!? That's cool, I'm bilingual anyways, but that's very apreciated. It'll be better if the team hire dub actors, the AI dub doesn't feel right.
Every side is perforated to make up for the choice of 1920-vintage VRSs and 1920/1988-vintage PSUs. Modern designs are 99+% efficient, smaller, and cheaper. They are not used because the "engineers" would have to learn the advances in power conversion since 1967 and because the PC is a junk market. If you can sell whatever you make at whatever price you want, why innovate?
Yeah, I know this must have been recorded before the full story came out, but I'd have appreciated some mention such as "we are professionals, do not use an asus mobo at home".
He won't say anything about asus/amd because they went hard with amd "upgrades". And no showing it between bits in WAN show where fewer people will see is not really adressing the problem
The warranty sticker thing is one of the main reasons I'll miss EVGA's GPUs. They honor their warranty even when you disassemble and install a waterblock on the card. I've had to RMA two EVGA GPUs (out of like 11 I've owned from them) after I watercooled them. I told them up front that they've been watercooled. They simply told me to put the stock heatsink back on and said the only issue would be if I didn't have the stock thermal pads anymore (which they offered to send me). RMA process was a breeze still. RIP EVGA, you will be missed.
XFX are just as good, if not better. They explicitly list that they don't cover warranty on used cards, but when my $250 6800xt started acting up (shocking, I know), they agreed to provide RMA so long as I paid for shipping. This was a surprise to me, I even told them it was used.
I once had a helper “reorganize” the bolts I had laid out by subassembly on a work bench for a particularly heinous engine rebuild. If we had an HR department back then I would’ve been fired on the spot for the hateful language that spewed involuntarily from my mouth.
I remember when Dan's cases were fairly new on the market and super niche. Pretty cool to see them keep pushing SFF. I just got a Dan A4-H2O last year and love it.
Got a A4-H2O last year too, it's just such a great case. And maintenance is not that hard with the possibility to pull the bottom off, and the hole in the front. Still in love with it.
Do you have some need for the case to be half as tall or is all that hassle just to look cool? Footprint wise Its 4.5cm narrower and shorter than my Corsair 220T but also a hell of a lot harder to build in and you need compromised components?
@Bootstrapper A lot of cases still ship with a Gen 3 riser. Gen 4 mobo, Gen 3 riser, and Gen 4 GPU can lead to a lot of instability and for first time builders it can be a hassle figuring out that's the problem.
Adam really came alive this video. I know he's been on camera quite a bit at this point, but something about this video reminded me of the days when hosts like Anthony and Alex were getting their video legs. When the host is comfortable and confident, and their personality really gets to shine through. Love to see it.
In regards to the tamper sticker, Isopropyl alcohol works as a great solvent to temporarily make the sticker no longer sticky. Then once the isopropyl alcohol evaporates you can re-apply it like a new sticker. This trick also works for the rubber feet on many devices that manufacturers love to hide screws with.
@@silverhawkroman it disolves it but it makes sense that if you just leave the alcool and glue on it instead of wiping it off it will get sticky again when the solvent evaporates
If you are thinking about recreating this build, i’d recommend not using an ASUS motherboard because the over current protection is faulty and the BIOS that fixes it voids the warranty. Watch Gamer Nexus’ video for more detail on the problem.
I'm waiting for a mass manufacturer to just bulk produce these for like $38. When a full ATX case can be sub-$40, there's no good reason (aside from small production run and "because you'll pay it") for a case with this little material to cost $200+. Heck, you don't even need to have it be pre-assembled, just ship with instructions and let the user do it. Cutting out steel panels doesn't cost that much, especially in bulk. For a small run, charge what you want I guess, but for this to be mainstream a big maker just need to make them in bulk and price accordingly. If "Bgears b-Vigor RGB Mid Tower with Front RGB Light and Side Tempered Glass (BG01879)" can be #17 on Amazon's best sellers for PC cases, for $38, and have tempered glass and lights, this SFX case can be done for $38. It doesn't even need a riser, so there's no excuse about minimum costs there.
The crew comments are some of my favorite bits bc no one else on production scales like this don’t let the people behind the scenes interact like these guys do
can you all please review your product sponsor Eight Sleep? Why is there a subscription plan for a mattress pad. I am not talking about the cost off the pad, there is a subscription (*nonoptional) just for their app???
God that summit ice tshirt is so fucking cool. Massive respect for that reference (and for Nathan who's probably kept the business going as an actual fundraising mechanism (???)).
As someone who has long haired pets who I value more than most people, I appreciate the desire to make sure your system is easy to clean. I have a calendar reminder to remind me every month to "peel" the fur off my computer's filters.
I really wish there would be a micro-ATX version of this. The motherboards are usually cheaper for the features. Provides an upgrade path for more RAM and other expandability. This would only require a small bump in height
I just built a minor variation on this (7700, rx7900 xt) in a Silverstone Alta G1M. It's a micro-ATX case, but assembled vertically (the 'rear' ports are on the top) so it's got a small footprint, and average mid-tower height. GPU ends up facing the front panel, so the LED-lit fans on mine shine through the front mesh. As a bonus it supports normal dual-tower air coolers, so no need for water or radiators.
@@davidskidmore3442 I've seen the Alta too. It is so close to being great too. But I don't like the look of it and like the open top due to liquid spills. Where I could put the C4-SFX upright in the same position as the Alta to close of the top
One day, I'm going to make a SFF build with just an APU. Love to see innovation in the space. Just like I love seeing episodes with Adam! He knows what he's doing, and isn't camera shy. Great match for Linus.
Using a Dan A4-H20 with a 5800X3D and so many features it included were just as nice as this. And I can see so many more new improvements between that case and this newer one. Even if ITX is charged at a premium it is amazing to just see it all fit and work while remaining quiet.
I used to build only full tower cases, but recently realized (after longer than I'll admit) most of that space is going to waste because I'm not using a full tower as intended. My latest build was going to be in a micro case with an mATX motherboard and I almost went with the Jonsbo D31 in the mesh white ($90 and would be my first white pc build), which is very similar to the one used here, but ended up doing the HYTE Y60 (a mid tower) in snow white and absolutely love the build even more. I was very concerned with the thermals of an i9-12900K in the D31 even with an AIO liquid cooling and was a bit disappointed most micro cases didn't have a glass side panel.
I have the ncase m1 which is a very similar size. Going to a LAN party I could just put the computer in my backpack with my keyboard and cables which was super convenient. SFF is a hassle to maintain but well worth it
You should check out another interesting case: Mechanic Master C28. At 17.9L it's one of the smallest cases that supports both micro-atx mobo and atx psu at the same time. Just like the dancase in this video, nearly all of its panels can be unscrewed for easier building. It supports 240mm AIO or an air cooler up to 162mm. It also supports a 335mm graphics card. I got mine from aliexpress last year and it was a very fun build, especially squeezing in my giant msi rx 6950xt gaming x trio.
@@johnuzoka6124 thanks for letting me know! i edited my comment so it just says "one of the smallest" since yours is smaller. for my purposes, i still prefer the c28 because it can fit taller air coolers and my gpu is 325mm so wouldnt fit in the zzaw c2.
@@ericchen5862 unless im mistaken, m1evo is an itx case. the reason i suggested c28 is because it fits all regular micro-atx parts so you dont need to pay extra or lose functionality for itx/sfx parts
1:30 Linus recoiling at his employee accidentally tapping the 4090 against a case... When this MOFO used to drop full on MSI Titan Laptop on the ground because he was born with butterfingers....
What do you guys think of this small form factor case? Let us know below!
Check out the DanCase C4-SFX Mini-ITX Case: lmg.gg/N3mLR
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Buy a Gigabyte AORUS Radeon RX 7900 XTX GPU: geni.us/DuUM
Buy a Nvidia GeForce 4090 FE GPU: geni.us/1BwMkoC
Buy a Cooler Master V1100 SFX 80+ Platinum PSU: geni.us/tBS8
Buy an ASUS ROG Strix X670E-I Gaming Motherboard: geni.us/SDy4j
Buy a NZXT Kraken X63 RGB 280mm AIO Cooler: geni.us/A9vp
Buy G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 6000Mhz CL30 2x16GB DDR5 RAM: geni.us/8E3HGyS
Buy a Gigabyte AORUS Gen5 10,000 NVMe M.2 SSD: geni.us/ucyxA
Buy a Crucial MX500 2TB 2.5" SSD: geni.us/7BCqyso
Buy a Noctua NF-A14 Fan: geni.us/q2Hwi
Buy a Noctua NH-D9L CPU Cooler: geni.us/uCZqzgZ
Buy a Noctua NH-D12L CPU Cooler: geni.us/eHf4
Buy a SSUPD Meshroom S Mini-ITX Case: geni.us/8AVx
Buy a Cooler Master NR200P Mini-ITX Case: geni.us/lXJqY
Purchases made through some store links may provide some compensation to Linus Media Group.
Asus motherboard and X3D Cpu.. That cant go well
@@th1jzzz531 That's just their way of showing you can fit an ICE in this thing.
It's quite cool, but I've never liked such small cases
I think it’s overall just a nice looking small case
Why are you advertising Asus boards with 7000X3D cpus with the issues around them together. I get if the video was shot before it BUT take out the affiliate links at least from the video description and this comment.
You're building in a DanCase without Dan? How could you?!
Yeah, how could he?
He might have been busy setting up Wan show but yea, it was a huge missed opportunity.
The guy who designed this case is called Daniel I believe, it's a one man show from Germany. Would have been dope to have him on a video
Well who is gonna continue making cases for the other customers?
@@ahsookee Dan and Dan build in a DanCase would go way too hard for our mortal eyes and ears.
The SSD bending is because there's space for a double sided SSD, but a single sided one is thinner so it doesn't make contact with the thermal pad underneath and gets pushed in by the cooler. But ASUS have actually accounted for that and they include a rubber spacer which you can install underneath a single sided SSD to support it and stop it bending. It's not well-advertised but if you look in the accessories box it should be there, and there's a page in the manual showing where to put it. Alternatively you can just add another layer of thermal pad if you lose the spacer.
go figure, nobody rtfm anymore😂. Thanks for the tip though
@@DannyNguyen56read the fuckin manual?
Correct. I read the manual on my Asus MB and it calls for it. I did it. RTFM chaps😂
@@Atari8888lmao that’s what I thought of instantly too😂
Love the build... and the unconscious screwdriver flip at 2:45... he didn't drop it! Also, I cringed when Linus brushed those screws aside. Glad their was a lesson to be learned there. Respect another's workspace, Linus!
It was a pretty clean flip too.
@bruh I think he mighta put a few points inta int and tech... just a few...
I really like these small form factor builds. I've never built a small form factor myself though...I usually build in mid or full tower cases. Could you guys do a video on how you go about selecting components for a small form factor build and ensuring that everything will fit in the case (theoretically)?
Pretty straight forward honestly, most ITX cases only fit SFX PSU, ITX motherboards, and the showcase on the website will tell you what size cooling and fans will fit. Oh, and also consider the GPU won't always fit for a three-fan or higher-end GPU. There is virtually no way to make a blanketed approach to ITX as each company deals with it differently.
@@califa213239 Also almost all product listings - especially on the manufacturer's website - will give dimensions. Case manufactures, esp in SFF cases, will usually give max length/height/width dimensions for GPU slots. I still try to undershoot a tiny bit so I don't have to do like they did in this video and partially disassemble the case.
My trick for warranty stickers is to take the bad boy out, and cut out a new sticker using a blank thermal shipping label and an xacto knife. Its brand new adhesive so sticks great, works everytime
10:34 Not only Andrew, but the entire island of Ireland has just facepalmed and blacklisted Adam from ever coming here.
8:09 "i don't think i did anything wrong but here we are"
sums up my life rn
I've used White Cooler Master NR200 for my build. It's 18.25L case, looks nice and clean on my desk. But man, it fits Arctic liquid freezer II 280 AIO (the radiator thickness is 35mm, regular AIOs has 25mm), 4080 FE, R9 5950X (I built it before Ryzen 7000 series has come out). It's almost silent, idle CPU temp is 33 degrees Celsius, overclocked 100% load about 81. Without overclocking 100% load never above 71 no matter for how long.
I miss Adams girlfriend - she was great in the intel upgrade video 🥰
I love my hulking beast that required me to source a desk with a slot big enough to fit it (barely), but it's still really cool to see these smaller form factors being fleshed out and developed.
I'm a big case for life stan, but this is great for my smaller case brethren!
20:13 "When I don't get enough sleep, I get cranky, like an adult-sized-or *almost* adult-sized-baby" LOL
I did a build in the LianLi + DanCase A4 and it is the nicest build I've personally ever done. I would never go back to a full-size case for a gaming PC and I've been recommending Dan cases to everyone I know.
The problem I had with my last itx build wasn't cpu or gpu temps but the pch temp. Bigger boards have heatsinks on them but itx boards have no space. Shame smaller builds are more expensive too, they look better.
9:22 I'm gonna guess other people mentioned this already, but if you're missing a screw or whatever it was at the end of this video, here's the time stamp. I can't wait to see if he notices.
I also assembled my own mini ATX setup, it is pretty light weight, doesnt take as much space as a common tower one and temps are still cool due to undervolting of CPU and GPU. Would recommend!
That bent SSD is a big problem on Asus motherboards. I have an Intel SFF board from Asus and the bend was so severe I ended up padding the underside with several layers of heat transfer strips. Don't know why they think a bend like thst is OK.
I think the A4 H20 remains my favorite SFF case. It's tiny and it's meant for water cooling, but I went with air cooling and it was so fun to build in.
AAAYYYYEEEE, same cooler i got today! upgraded from some fx 240mmrad, cpu went from 95C at 180watt to 85C at 200watt!
Confusing Guinness with Stella is a crime punishable by death, or by having to only drink American light beer for the rest of your life
You're in the right direction Linus ! 👌Currently have a NR200P build
I have that motherboard and LOVE it.
Word of advice for anyone building SFF, stay away from the cooler master PSU. Also do not get ASUS as the mobo chipset fan will be so loud.
Seems like a wasted opportunity not to have Dan co-host the episode building in a Dancase 🤷
I feel like the audience loves Dan and Linus can't stand him (or at least his snark)
@@ryanj610 if that's the case then why does he let Dan do the Wan Show?
Because Dan does great work. Linus gets too exasperated sometimes, unscripted I feel. Just look at the Christmas album clips, hah
Love the summit ice tee. Remember - deny nothing.
Appreciate how Linus lets his staff look smarter than him
Ok…
My new build is in a meshify 2 XL because I don’t like worrying about having room 😂
honestly the smoothest segue so far
Bigger means bulkier, glad stuff is getting more portable lol we eventually will have to move our pcs
thank you guys so much for addressing the legality of the warranty stickers, please always do this
THIS! I love all the attention the right to repair movement has been getting and it just keeps getting stronger
@@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg I really, really like this profile pic.
Inspired by Raijintek STYX and/or METIS?
I wish there were more cases if your layout asks to place your PC on the left side of your desk.
when linus pulls out the ASUS motherboard: good luck linus, i see you have dared!!
0:53 Is that a pebble?? haha
i love tiny pcs but i love even more my cosmos ii
The roasting of Linux
"I'm not done yet, gosh." - Adam
You've made that look very difficult.
You scrape the foam with Heineken
You’d be an odd person not to like Adam. There’s just something very endearing about him.
Why is your Pebble Time always low on power? Charge that bad boy up!
Asus MoBo? Yeah set that 7800x3d on fire with too much Voltage! 🔥
I would definitely love to let someone else build one of these for me...
I only realised that it's water cooled at 18:00...
Hey linus, we need a keyboard video, my 1 year old G413 carbon has already started to give up with dust entering the censors and keys behaving strangely and games tabbing out by themselves. i went online to look for a new keyboard and most of them are up towards 200$ is there really nothing cheaper?
0:13 Fire the editor for not using a rectangular tick box.
Holy fuck, the videos now have Latam Spanish dub!?
That's cool, I'm bilingual anyways, but that's very apreciated.
It'll be better if the team hire dub actors, the AI dub doesn't feel right.
This banter is like the marriage of nerds
woulda been so nice if it used the 4090 fe
Was this video filmed before the whole AMD 7800x3D and ASUS drama?
Inverted? I'm getting flashbacks to BTX
Every side is perforated to make up for the choice of 1920-vintage VRSs and 1920/1988-vintage PSUs. Modern designs are 99+% efficient, smaller, and cheaper. They are not used because the "engineers" would have to learn the advances in power conversion since 1967 and because the PC is a junk market. If you can sell whatever you make at whatever price you want, why innovate?
I love when the editors have fun with the videos and add goofy stuff. Makes me smile every time 😂
Ah yes, an Asus motherboard with an X3D. Definitely the most stable of gaming rigs in the modern day.
rn with the 1410 bios should be safe, you lose OC functions and you are capped to 1.3v but at least it doesn't void the warranty anymore
@@Darkmaniak86 the cap doesnt work lol
This was also most likely filmed way before the news was out
Was thinking the same thing
@@asnaeb2And ASUS will probably void your warranty anyways because they will just delete that BIOS version from their website too lol
Linus is being ballsy for using a ROG itx board with his 7800x3d right now, lol.
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Yeah, I know this must have been recorded before the full story came out, but I'd have appreciated some mention such as "we are professionals, do not use an asus mobo at home".
He won't say anything about asus/amd because they went hard with amd "upgrades". And no showing it between bits in WAN show where fewer people will see is not really adressing the problem
@@SkullHandy yeah, because when they were doing intel upgrades they NEVER said anything bad about intel cpus and their wattage and temps, right?
Pre-recorded.
At the rate Nvidia is increasing the size of their GPUs, I’m worried that even this case will become useless in a few years.
Amd,intel?
@@dennisheusschen7273 Lets Not Talk About Them
@dennisheusschen7273 those literally don't matter to most users buddy. Sorry to break the bad news to ya
You'd just have two small cases, one for the gpu and one for everything else 😂
@@ATLsF1N3ST91 amd gpus are better price to performance
The warranty sticker thing is one of the main reasons I'll miss EVGA's GPUs. They honor their warranty even when you disassemble and install a waterblock on the card. I've had to RMA two EVGA GPUs (out of like 11 I've owned from them) after I watercooled them. I told them up front that they've been watercooled. They simply told me to put the stock heatsink back on and said the only issue would be if I didn't have the stock thermal pads anymore (which they offered to send me). RMA process was a breeze still. RIP EVGA, you will be missed.
No lie, EVGA is one of the easiest companies ever to work with, and their CS has always been first class when I've had to work with them.
XFX honored the warranty too. They even went as far as to offer Waterblock installation for the AMD Vega cards, U pay for shipping.
Not like they are dead. They just choose to not to stay with the unseasonable
XFX are just as good, if not better. They explicitly list that they don't cover warranty on used cards, but when my $250 6800xt started acting up (shocking, I know), they agreed to provide RMA so long as I paid for shipping. This was a surprise to me, I even told them it was used.
As a mechanic I laughed so hard when linus swept the screws to the side if you do that in a shop you might get hurt
I once had a helper “reorganize” the bolts I had laid out by subassembly on a work bench for a particularly heinous engine rebuild. If we had an HR department back then I would’ve been fired on the spot for the hateful language that spewed involuntarily from my mouth.
I remember when there were only 3 screw types in PCs and you could buy mixed bags of spares.
This explains why I always have so many screws left over
I remember when Dan's cases were fairly new on the market and super niche. Pretty cool to see them keep pushing SFF. I just got a Dan A4-H2O last year and love it.
Yeah, very cool for 200€ lol.
I live the H2O, but its missing the size to comfortably fit a 4090....my prayers have been answered!
@@Zoduk The H2O can fit the 4090 FE and MSI Ventus model
Got a A4-H2O last year too, it's just such a great case. And maintenance is not that hard with the possibility to pull the bottom off, and the hole in the front. Still in love with it.
Do you have some need for the case to be half as tall or is all that hassle just to look cool? Footprint wise Its 4.5cm narrower and shorter than my Corsair 220T but also a hell of a lot harder to build in and you need compromised components?
The fact that you don't need a riser cable makes a huge difference to me. Those end up causing so many issues in real world use cases
such as?
@Bootstrapper A lot of cases still ship with a Gen 3 riser. Gen 4 mobo, Gen 3 riser, and Gen 4 GPU can lead to a lot of instability and for first time builders it can be a hassle figuring out that's the problem.
@@lambyi And it is just another thing to plug in, and another point of failure. Not having one is probably better just for simplicity's sake
Wasn't it NZXT who had fire starting risers?
Also, hey Z0eff 👋
Got a Gen4 GPU, Gen3 Riser and Gen4 Mobo and got No Problems at all🤷🏻
B550 I Gaming
RTX 3070 Strix
Lian Li Q58 Gen 3
Adam really came alive this video. I know he's been on camera quite a bit at this point, but something about this video reminded me of the days when hosts like Anthony and Alex were getting their video legs. When the host is comfortable and confident, and their personality really gets to shine through. Love to see it.
It was like watching regular Linus working with Big Linus 🤣
Two
He's turning into a Jake personality
And maybe body double (slowly)
It would help even more if Linus didn't keep trying to undermine him lol.
Like his spine
This has the same energy as Adam's tech upgrade. Love it
nah his gf/wife brings more chaos than this
Linus: "Why do you want to choke a horse??"
Because it is a night-mare
In regards to the tamper sticker, Isopropyl alcohol works as a great solvent to temporarily make the sticker no longer sticky. Then once the isopropyl alcohol evaporates you can re-apply it like a new sticker. This trick also works for the rubber feet on many devices that manufacturers love to hide screws with.
Learnt something new, cheers
first i was like "no shit sherlock" and then i went to "oh snap thats cool"
A solvent meaning it dissolves the glue, no?
@@silverhawkroman it disolves it but it makes sense that if you just leave the alcool and glue on it instead of wiping it off it will get sticky again when the solvent evaporates
@@Aerosklice naaah ,if you apply to much,the glue remains on the card,its a very tricky and delicate operation
If you are thinking about recreating this build, i’d recommend not using an ASUS motherboard because the over current protection is faulty and the BIOS that fixes it voids the warranty. Watch Gamer Nexus’ video for more detail on the problem.
That and for some reason Asus insists on making their itx rear io shrouds extend past the itx form factor.
"BIOS that fixes it voids the warranty."
False.
Love the Summit Ice t-shirt. Never forget ✊
SUMMIT ICE. never forget
Who was aware that Dan from LTT had a sidehustle in designing PC cases as well?
It represents his genius pretty well tbh.
not the same dan. the dan case is from a german forum member of computerbase
@@perun I guess this is what they say r/wooosh is for?
I'm waiting for a mass manufacturer to just bulk produce these for like $38. When a full ATX case can be sub-$40, there's no good reason (aside from small production run and "because you'll pay it") for a case with this little material to cost $200+. Heck, you don't even need to have it be pre-assembled, just ship with instructions and let the user do it. Cutting out steel panels doesn't cost that much, especially in bulk. For a small run, charge what you want I guess, but for this to be mainstream a big maker just need to make them in bulk and price accordingly. If "Bgears b-Vigor RGB Mid Tower with Front RGB Light and Side Tempered Glass (BG01879)" can be #17 on Amazon's best sellers for PC cases, for $38, and have tempered glass and lights, this SFX case can be done for $38. It doesn't even need a riser, so there's no excuse about minimum costs there.
guessing this was recorded before asus boards blew up every X3D cpu
The crew comments are some of my favorite bits bc no one else on production scales like this don’t let the people behind the scenes interact like these guys do
I've only seen Smosh do this before
can you all please review your product sponsor Eight Sleep? Why is there a subscription plan for a mattress pad. I am not talking about the cost off the pad, there is a subscription (*nonoptional) just for their app???
I wish Fractal would make a micro ATX version of the North.
The normal North is quite big.
@@initial_kd it’s still big for an SFF lover like me… I also would love an ITX or mATX variant!
@Initial_KD mesh side panel is the best version you can mount an aio on the side.
They did it for the Torrent, I bet they'll come up with smaller North variants soon (maybe Computex?).
MicroATX is the read headed step child. It isn't popular enough to warrant much effort on the part of motherboard or case manufacturers.
@@christopherjames9843 then why does Fractal make a MATX version of pretty much every case they make?
Linus does seem like a good boss to be honest, its nice to see fame and money doesnt go to everyones head! Well done LTT 🥰🥰
LOL Ok.
I love inverted cases. So hard to find and honestly that's an injustice. Thankful for smart case designers like this.
I bought the O11D Evo literally a few hours ago just because i want a white inverted case
I had an old Lian-Li PC-V1000 case that did something like this. Loved it.
Nothing gets me going like SFF cases! Love seeing you guys covering this on the channel! More please!
SO YOU COOMED TO THIS VIDEO???
Asus motherboard and X3D… that can’t go well.
If ya know ya know there is a beta bios to try to fix it but still
Is Linus wearing a Pebble Time Watch?
I was gonna write this
99% sure
I freakin love Mini-ITX, so compact and unique, it genuinely helps with space constraints and rare situations when I need to move it around :D
Your god damn right. Hell yeah.
i prefer mini-DTX because its just as compact but you can fit more stuff onto it.
He definitely should have gone with a different mobo vendor though
Did one for the wife. Never regretted it.
ITX is fun for seasoned PC building enthusiasts, it is where most of the progress in case design/layout/innovation happens :)
God that summit ice tshirt is so fucking cool. Massive respect for that reference (and for Nathan who's probably kept the business going as an actual fundraising mechanism (???)).
The genuine excitement in how awesome the engineering must've been to design that case was awesome to watch
As someone who has long haired pets who I value more than most people, I appreciate the desire to make sure your system is easy to clean. I have a calendar reminder to remind me every month to "peel" the fur off my computer's filters.
Unfortunately, you can't even purchase this case. It's been sold out since before it launched, and the website says to wait for the v2...
Using an Asus motherboard good one @Linus Tech Tips
I really wish there would be a micro-ATX version of this. The motherboards are usually cheaper for the features. Provides an upgrade path for more RAM and other expandability. This would only require a small bump in height
Dan Case has the A4-mATX in development which is basically a slightly larger version of this. But who knows when/if they release it
I just built a minor variation on this (7700, rx7900 xt) in a Silverstone Alta G1M. It's a micro-ATX case, but assembled vertically (the 'rear' ports are on the top) so it's got a small footprint, and average mid-tower height. GPU ends up facing the front panel, so the LED-lit fans on mine shine through the front mesh. As a bonus it supports normal dual-tower air coolers, so no need for water or radiators.
@@davidskidmore3442 I've seen the Alta too. It is so close to being great too. But I don't like the look of it and like the open top due to liquid spills. Where I could put the C4-SFX upright in the same position as the Alta to close of the top
One day, I'm going to make a SFF build with just an APU. Love to see innovation in the space. Just like I love seeing episodes with Adam! He knows what he's doing, and isn't camera shy. Great match for Linus.
I've recently build my rig in the Dan-A4 H2O and I am still impressed by the quality and overall concept of their cases.
I love the dynamic that Linus and Dan have.
Father and son energy
Dan? That's Adam.
I love Adam and Linus videos. The chaotic energy is unmatched
Using a Dan A4-H20 with a 5800X3D and so many features it included were just as nice as this. And I can see so many more new improvements between that case and this newer one. Even if ITX is charged at a premium it is amazing to just see it all fit and work while remaining quiet.
I used to build only full tower cases, but recently realized (after longer than I'll admit) most of that space is going to waste because I'm not using a full tower as intended. My latest build was going to be in a micro case with an mATX motherboard and I almost went with the Jonsbo D31 in the mesh white ($90 and would be my first white pc build), which is very similar to the one used here, but ended up doing the HYTE Y60 (a mid tower) in snow white and absolutely love the build even more. I was very concerned with the thermals of an i9-12900K in the D31 even with an AIO liquid cooling and was a bit disappointed most micro cases didn't have a glass side panel.
I still prefer large cases. Makes things so much easier to maintain and wire manage.
I have the ncase m1 which is a very similar size. Going to a LAN party I could just put the computer in my backpack with my keyboard and cables which was super convenient. SFF is a hassle to maintain but well worth it
the more linus videos you watch the more brute force you use in your builds
Dealing with Linus will be easier when the staff don’t report to him.😂
Keep a backup of the old BIOS just in case you blow the CPU as the latest BIOS void's your warranty.
If only there were more SFF options for us MATX users. 😢
AP201.
@@notlNSIGHT EVEN MORE!!
ZZAW C2
SAMA IM01
Inter Tech IM 01
Jonsbo D31
"Big PC cases are dead" Well, that sounds like a YOU problem
You should check out another interesting case: Mechanic Master C28.
At 17.9L it's one of the smallest cases that supports both micro-atx mobo and atx psu at the same time. Just like the dancase in this video, nearly all of its panels can be unscrewed for easier building. It supports 240mm AIO or an air cooler up to 162mm. It also supports a 335mm graphics card.
I got mine from aliexpress last year and it was a very fun build, especially squeezing in my giant msi rx 6950xt gaming x trio.
wait til the m1evo comes out lol
Nah I have the ZZAW C2 case and it supports MATX mobo + ATX PSU at the same time. And GPU length upto 323mm and the case is 13.7L total
@@johnuzoka6124 thanks for letting me know! i edited my comment so it just says "one of the smallest" since yours is smaller. for my purposes, i still prefer the c28 because it can fit taller air coolers and my gpu is 325mm so wouldnt fit in the zzaw c2.
@@ericchen5862 unless im mistaken, m1evo is an itx case. the reason i suggested c28 is because it fits all regular micro-atx parts so you dont need to pay extra or lose functionality for itx/sfx parts
@@9php also theres the SAMA IM01/Techware Fusion
It's 21L with more compatibility compared to zzaw c2 but I'm not sure of the cooler/GPU allowance
Small builds are cool looking but can be infuriating. Something is always in your way and you have to take 3 things out to get one thing.
1:30 Linus recoiling at his employee accidentally tapping the 4090 against a case... When this MOFO used to drop full on MSI Titan Laptop on the ground because he was born with butterfingers....