The Chosen Controversy: What should we make of that scene?
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- There is a line of dialogue in the historical drama "The Chosen" that has caused a bit of controversy. In season 3, episode 3, Jesus says, "I am the law of Moses." In this video, we will take a look at that scene and talk about what it means and hear an explanation from producer Dallas Jenkins in his own words.
Here is the full clip of Mr. Jenkins that I played:
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Hay una línea de diálogo en el drama histórico "The Chosen" que ha causado un poco de controversia. En la temporada 3, episodio 3, Jesús dice: "Yo soy la ley de Moisés". En este video, veremos esa escena y hablaremos sobre lo que significa y escucharemos una explicación del productor Dallas Jenkins en sus propias palabras.
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He could have said " I gave the law to Moses ". It would have been even more scandalous for the priest.
Rob, my biblical roots friend, how are you going to comment on the statement that saved or not saved people are required to keep the law?
Thank you Prof. Solberg for another informative video handled with grace and proper understanding. The false belief that Jesus is the living Torah (law of Moses) starts with the deliberate interchanging and misunderstanding of words found in John 1:1-5 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.”
When “Word” is replaced with “Torah” or "Law" it diminishes the deity of Jesus, elevate Torah’s position, and completely deny the Biblical Trinity, along with changing John’s statement at the start of his Gospel. “Word” and “Torah” are two completely different concepts and bear no resembling meaning when applied in the correct context. "Word" in Greek is "Logos" and "Law" in Greek is "Nomos".
It’s just one of a multitude of examples how the Bible text is mishandled by some to substantiate certain beliefs, rather than reading and understanding the text as it was written and meant to be understood. It’s reckless abandonment of common sense.
John substantiates the fact in his epistle that Jesus is the Living Word (Word of life) who existed from the beginning. 1 John 1:1-5 “That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, concerning the Word of life- the life was manifested, and we have seen, and bear witness, and declare to you that eternal life which was with the Father and was manifested to us- that which we have seen and heard we declare to you, that you also may have fellowship with us; and truly our fellowship is with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ. And these things we write to you that your joy may be full.”
Now if one is to again replace “Word” with “Torah” or "Law" then one comes up with a distortion of Scripture.
There are numerous statements that just gets repeated ignorantly, one being “Jesus is the living Torah” or that He is "The Law of Moses" that become part of a belief system without any Scriptural evidence or reference. If it gets repeated enough or taught enough, then it must be true is the attitude of some. Torah or the law itself becomes an idol that rejects the finished work on the cross by Jesus Christ.
Jesus is greater than the law of Moses and His Law is written on our hearts and not on stone. How many moral sins that come from the heart are not mentioned in the Torah or law that Christians follow devotionally? The Law of Christ convicts us and we know what sin is without it being delivered to us. We know it when we see it. We are in the new and better covenant. Jesus came to fulfill the Law and to institute a new Covenant.
How do you equate the historical fact that the gentile churches persecutions of the jews. Despite the same narrative between theological disputes go out the window.
@@frederickanderson1860 - It was the early Christians who were persecuted by the Jewish institutions and Jesus Christ who was falsely accused and crucified by the Jewish Pharisees. Christians were removed and chased from synagogues when they tried to preach the Gospel to the Jews. Paul himself as a Jew and when he was a Pharisee persecuted Christians before His repentance and encounter with Jesus Christ.
@@Daniel_Prinsloo_22 no comparision the western church persecuted for centuries the lie that they we're god killers and even kidnapped Christians children, sacrificed them used their blood for Passover. The whole people of Israel we're condemed ,not the pharisaical kind. Jesus taught love thy enemies,turn the other cheeck,thats my point, Paul explanation is in epistle of Romans, chapter 11: 11-31. Check out the past dark persecutions to what Paul wrote.
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For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. John 1:17
Rob, do you agree that there's a law required to be kept regardless if you are saved or not. All people are required to keep that law, regardless if they have eternal life or not?
Better line: "I am the fulfillment of the law."
Same meaning either way. Or He could have said “I am the law made flesh!” Oh wait! Someone did say that. 😉
@@1fitRN This has a completely different meaning at least in the literal sense. Who said "I am the law made flesh"?
The apostle John said it about Yeshua in the first chapter of his gospel. I put the line in quotes as if it were coming from the chosen. Its not an actual direct quote. Im curious though how you see the statements of “i am the law of moses” differently than “i am the fulfillment of the law”?
@@1fitRN Well in John it says:
14 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us...", not the law was made flesh, which is a big difference.
Anyway, I am talking in a more literal sense that Jesus is not the law but is the giver of the law. Figurately sure, it would be like how police officers might say "I am the law."
How do you interpretate gospel of John chapter 1v1. What is the logos. The Greeks believed in a logos,so what is the logos that was with God. Is it the eternal son or the mind of God.
Hello Frederick. The Word (λόγος, logos) in John 1 refers to Jesus, who, as the second person of the Trinity, is equal to God. We know this because, in verse 14, John writes, "And the Word (λόγος) became flesh and dwelt among us."
Blessings, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots just curious because the ancient Greeks believed same of a logos. The term can mean to speak like in genesis, God spoke let their be light,also it can mean a discourse in a particular subject, like biology or any word ending with logy ( logos)
It was one of my favourite bits ❤❤❤❤
As far as what your saying brother, 100% Sola Scriptura AMĚN to that...
This issue reminds of the Left Behind book series. I knew people that hated it because it wasn’t accurate to their opinion. I would always say - It’s entertainment not scripture. If you want biblical accuracy - read the Bible.
His dad wrote Left Behind so maybe you are picking up in their theological muddiness?
This might be the only Bible people read ..
Left Behind series had a lot more issues than just Biblical inaccuracies. I couldn't finish the series.
I have not seen this series, but have seen many critiques of it, podcasts, that is. The one issue I’ve not heard anybody mention is that I think it attacks Christ’s deity. The movie portrays Jesus as having to practice or prepare for a sermon, in which case Matthew assists him. It may be subtle, nevertheless, it is an issue. Jesus had perfect communication and relationship with the Father. He always did what the Father instructed him; he did not have to prepare or practice a sermon, much less take advice from Matthew, a mere human. John 5.
Although Jesus had a divine nature and a human nature, and His human nature was restricted, He would have prayed to the Father, not taken advice from a man.
Yeshua is the Law of Moshe meaning it shows you his character. It expresses how to love the Father and your neighbor with all your heart which is why it is the wedding contract.
For we are made in the image of YaH. This is our calling. We are called to express the image of YaH to all creation.
Still, the statement "I am the Law of Moses" was never said by Jesus anywhere in the new Testament and that was the contention.. God the Father was the ONE that gave the Law to his chosen people.
@@davidrosado5698 It was The Father, Yeshua and The Holy Spirit who gave Moshe the Law. All three are the source of the Law. It expresses their character. So though Yeshua never said those exact words, the statement is true.
One of the issues with taking "Creative License" with telling stories around the Bible, especially playing in the grey areas as The Chosen does, this affects the way a lot of people actually view and interpret the scriptures and events. It's not so simple and minorly dismissive by stating, "it's just a story". If you want a cautionary tale, just read through the comments under The Chosen TH-cam videos.
It's a figure of speech - a metonym -
using this (noun) to represent that (noun). For example, if someone says they will write a letter to the Crown, we know they are going to write a letter to a King, or Queen, not to a literal crown. The Crown is used to symbolize a person.
Re: "I am the Law." I don’t think they (the writers of The Chosen) were giving Jesus an additional "I am" statement, but rather having Him state that He is representative of the law, as someone might say when a police officer walks into a room, "The law is here." Obviously the police officer is not the law/the code itself, but rather a human being who represents & enforces a body of law.
Forgot to mention that Paul uses the word "law" in this way (as a metonym) when he says that the law was nailed to the cross in Colossians 2 : 14... Was a scroll nailed to the cross? Or the person Jesus?
I think from now on before you comment on anything that you know is not biblical, perhaps you should look in the Book of Mormon one of their other three books. They were revere all three above the Bible. This particular scripture came directly from the book of Mormon as I posted above.
I agree with you 100%. If we allow artists to form our theology, we could be leading ourselves into deception.
Agreed on the creativity but, when people point to their reasons for this being something from LDS, I usually point out that Dallas has said that he knew nothing about it being some sort of LDS thing. I go beyond Dallas' thought and point out that Jesus himself said, "You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me, yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life," (John 5:39-40). Seems to me that Jesus is saying something very similar.
Amen brother. We can appreciate and celebrate art that points us to our God and brings joy to our hearts to worship Him more.
But we must be in the Word daily as you said so we can discern what is scriptural and theologically correct.
I don't watch the Chosen personally but this is still a good rule to have when watching anything involving the Bible itself.
God bless you all! ❤
But this is supposed to be a witness to those who do not know the Word of God. How do they know artistic license is being applied…
2 Corinthians 3:13-18
13 We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to keep the Israelites from gazing at the end of what was fading away.
14 But their minds were closed. For to this day the same veil remains at the reading of the old covenant. It has not been lifted, because only in Christ can it be removed. 15 And even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts. 16 But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.
17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 18 And we, who with unveiled faces all reflect the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into His image with intensifying glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.
My thoughts exactly. I love the show, and although the phrase Jenkins had Jesus utter wasn’t theological accurate, I knew the point Jenkins was trying to convey. Yes, Jenkins could have framed the line differently, but it may not have had same impact.
It's incredibly theologically accurate. Jesus is the authority behind the Law of Moses. Jesus isn't literally the concept of truth, yet, He himself stated that He was the truth. Human language works in the metaphoric and the idiomatic. This line falls in the line with that.
Jesus is Greater than the law of Moses.
It does come from the book of Mormon though, i believe in a book called Nephi...
Hi, George! The Book of Mormon has Jesus saying something similar: "The law which was given unto Moses hath an end in me. Behold, I am the law, and the light" (3 Nephi 15:8-9). In the longer version of Jenkins' statement (which I linked to in the description), he specifically says he didn't get the line from the Book of Mormon.
Blessings, Rob
George, please search and report here; is that line from the book of moron? Pastor Greg
@@TheBiblicalRoots thank you brother, I heard from another ministry Light Exposing Darkness L.E.D. on this subject. They mentioned Nephi in the video... Ultimately I do like the creative license of the Chosen, but I'm a little leary on somethings. I think what's dangerous is for those who don't read their Bible and find that they take their theology from the series. I know based off what you said in your video you can understand what I'm saying...
@@gregparis8948 that line, I am the law of Moses, is similar to a line from the book of Mormon, if you read the messages from R.L. Solberg and myself, you will see that he shows exactly where from Nephi it's found...
Hello, I believe the Book of Mormon is a lie. There is no mention of someone, who would be under Elijah's Spirit as John the Baptist, Christs predecessor.
Moroni, who was supposedly the last to write this fake "Gospel", lived supposedly after another 4th century fake prophet Mormon.
So those accounts speaking of direct Christs revelations, prior to "discovery" of those plates are kind of strange.
It is not even complementary with the Bible.
BTW I suggest to read something from Irenaeus of Lyons, not all, or his pupils to add some more light on who Christ is. - 1. Timothy 1:17
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Just a quick note, wanted to hear your thoughts. I was reading Galatians this morning, and I forgotten which verse, but Paul mentioned that Jesus became the curse of the law ultimately for our justification and redemption before God, so we no longer had to follow it. With that particular phrase from Paul, wondering if that line from the chosen is justifiable?
Hi, Patrick! The line you're thinking of comes from Galatians 3:13, "Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us." So I'm not sure if that idea would work here. Because then Jesus would be saying "I am the curse of the law."
Rob
Thanks Robb! I appreciate your quick feedback. That makes sense.
Excellent work! Very balanced, and fair response brother 💯
I watched the first two episodes of the series over the weekend and thought it was an interesting but different perspective from prior depictions of Jesus in movies and also of the Pharisees. Cringy lines at times throughout the series but the backdrop is interesting. Nicodemus is baffled at his inability to cast out Mary's demons in the first episode then Jesus shows up.
The creator has said his style is to focus on Jesus’s human aspect. Which is different than other portrayals of Him. I enjoy the show as well, but I think there should be more God attributes to the character than there are bit that’s just mu opinion.
I do enjoy watching with my children as there’s so little that’s good to watch these days that edifies. When the show is clearly using creative freedom, I use it as an opportunity to show them the real Jesus in scripture and they get it so it’s a great tool.
Based on Luke 24:25-27, that statement is correct in the fact that He fulfilled the Law perfectly. He was born under the Law, and lived under the Law, and died under the Law.
Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary.
What brings all local churches together into one Body under the blood of Christ? The answer is found below.
New Covenant Whole Gospel:
Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him.
He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth.
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by
husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? What did Paul say about Genesis 12:3 in Galatians 3:8? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?
Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart.
Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36)
We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24.
1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
Watch the TH-cam videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.
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What concerns me is the relationship with people who believe in another doctrine therefore worship another God. God told us not to be unevenly yoked and to have no part with them that teach another gospel .
Thanks for your balanced approach. May I add; Dallas Jenkins' explanation was rather flippant. Pastor Greg
He is the law of Moses, because "in the beginning was the word". And if we don't see it as the Greek "logos", but as a translation of the Jewish "davar" ("issue, commandment, word, thing"), as in the ten dvarim (as we say "ten commandments), then we can plainly see that God and what He has commanded (His word) are one: In the beginning was the decree, and the decree was with God, and the decree was God, and the decree has become flesh and dwelt among us. God is what He teaches us: "For You have magnified above all your name, your utterance" (Ps. 138:2). The way He has ment for us to live is His nature. And the law of Moses is not the law of just Moses, but of God, delivered by Moses. So Jesus is the law of Moses, cause He is the law/commandment/devar/word, that is God Himself.
I was just about to write this, but you already did.. ❤❤❤❤❤❤🤍
Should have used John 5:39
I cannot believe that you’re taking words that Jesus did not say and defending them as if it’s OK because of poetic license, but did you ever Google those words and find out where they come from and find out they come from the book of Mormon?
Thank you for this video. I was one of those who asked for your view.
I wonder if something like “Before the Law of Moses was ….I Am” would be better?
Anyway, I will still watch the series but as I have a BA in Christian Ministry I too look at the theological side….maybe too much at times 😂🤣 Blessings to you. Mike.
Saying he is the law is like saying he is the word made flesh, is the word or torah 2 seprate things, NO they are not when Yeshua quoted deuteronomy 3 times he said not by bread alone but by 3 every word that comes from the mouth of YHWH..... The law is truth.
It is important to note that this film series is financially backed by the LDS church, which we know has distorted the gospel and is misleading from salvation, a vast number of followers. I have stopped recommending this film series.
Great question yet I would not be quick to draw to this conclusion. Not everything is reveled to everyone at one time for reasons, never the less it has prompt this video and questions... That's a good thing! Shalom
The owners of the show isnt dallas the company making the show are momons this show should be avoided just some encouragement
3 nephi 15:9
9 Behold, I am the law, and the light. Look unto me, and endure to the end, and ye shall live; for unto him that endureth to the end will I give eternal life
I think you are taking things way too literally. This is exactly the same kind of reactions that kept the Pharisees from accepting Jesus. Sometimes you just gotta step back and see the beauty in the art of the show. You are now dropping any bombshells by saying “Jesus never uttered those words”. We all know… 🤦🏻♂️
Bro. Rob, I suppose it’s okay for one to have this viewpoint if one is mature in the faith; having significant knowledge/understanding of God’s Word and is able to discern appropriately. However the issue is many watching this series, and entertainment similar to it, have little to no knowledge/understanding of God’s Word, and therefore can take this series as face value, believing it to be a true depiction of Jesus Christ. When creators use their “creative license” in order to make the narrative more engaging, it posing a significant danger to those who are young or ignorant in the faith.
1 Cor 5:21 instructs to test all things; holding fast to what is good. It is vital that we ascribe this directive, being like the Bereans [Act 17] who diligently tested what they heard to Scripture.
Dallas Jenkins has partnered with the LDS on this series, and I heard from his own mouth that he considers the LDS his brothers in Christ and yet the LDS do not worship the same Christ of the Bible. Through his use of, “creative license”, Dallas has the character Jesus declaring things Jesus Christ would never say; e.g. "I am the Law of Moses."; all for the sake of making the narrative more entertaining? No, the truth doesn’t need help.
I cannot support this series because there are too many red flags against it. But I do appreciate and love you, brother. Take care.
I would say that most people who watched this series can be categorized into 3 camps (oh boy this is a long one):
1. Christians who have been in the faith for a long time and therefore know how to discern or at least able to test directly with the Scripture which are biblically accurate and which parts are there to "fill the white spaces in the Scripture" to give the show a historical context, character developments, and emotional beats (you know the thing that will make a form of entertainment... entertaining?). Most Christians know that this is just a TV show and maybe some of us use it as a supplement to help us visualize the Bible but we NEVER use it as a replacement for Scriptures. All I have found so far is that people tend to read their Bibles more because of this show. Even this controversy about the law of Moses just makes people look into the Scripture more and probably have like a full bible study hour dedicated to it to challenge/test the interpretations. Sometimes I wonder if other Christians who keep saying this show is not biblically accurate and nitpick it for every word being said are the ones who actually treated this show as the Scriptures? The point is with so many denominations we will disagree with some doctrines at some point and we could never be fully sure of which doctrine is accurate unless we stand before God and asked Him ourselves when we meet Him. However we should always agree that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior who died on the cross and rise on the third day and redeem us of all of our sins and that He is the Only Way, the Truth, and the Life, and no one comes to the Father except through Him -- and so far the show never contradicts that.
2. New Christians/people who got saved from watching the show. There are so many amazing witnesses of this and seriously I couldn't imagine a better way for us to reach people who never heard of Jesus or have this twisted image of Jesus because of how we, the so-called Christians tend to have this holier-than-thou attitude that actually drove people away from wanting to know Jesus. Sure these people probably would have different views about how the whole gospel plays out in the Scripture, but at least the seed is planted and watered. And I believe that then we just need to trust God for the results. He will send His Holy Spirit and lead these people to know Him more through His Word. Given how many people have been saved and reached, maybe we can also ask ourselves as Christians if we have at least reached another people with the gospel and saved them? Or instead, we drove them away by rebuking them because we didn't think their lives are not up-to-par to our standards.
3. Atheists/Other religions -- I've seen so many comments about atheists watching this show. Some left their faiths long ago because mostly us Christians drove them away with our holier-than-thou attitudes but then got drawn into this show and into Jesus's teachings again. If we behave more like how Christ is portrayed in this show, I wonder if they would ever leave their faiths in the first place?
Oh, actually there's one more camp: people who watch the show or even not fully watching the show and only get the soundbites just to nitpick on it to display their holier-than-thou behavior instead of looking at the bigger pictures of what the show is trying to portray. I will probably ask these people the same questions I posted for people on the 3 camps above.
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I have heard it said that those words were recorded as what Jesus says in Mormon "scripture". I'm not sure. I haven't investigated it. I would've preferred the scrip in that moment to say something in the vein of what you've said here. Thank you for another excellent video, Professor! Shalom
Thanks, Brandon! The Book of Mormon has Jesus saying something similar: "The law which was given unto Moses hath an end in me. Behold, I am the law, and the light" (3 Nephi 15:8-9). In the longer version of Jenkins' statement (which I linked to in the description), he specifically says he didn't get the line from the Book of Mormon.
Blessings, Rob
Hello, the Book of Mormon is a lie. There is no mention of someone, who would be under Elijah's Spirit as John the Baptist, Christs predecessor.
Moroni, who was supposedly the last to write this fake "Gospel", lived supposedly after another 4th century fake prophet Mormon.
So those accounts speaking of direct Christs revelations, prior to "discovery" of those plates are kind of strange.
It is not even complementary with the Bible.1. Timothy 1:17
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Isn't "Thou shalt have no other gods before me" (Ex. 20:3, KJV), part of the "law of Moses"--Torah? The 10 Commandments in the Torah were intended to last forever. If JESUS was GOD, and the 10 Commandments are from GOD, JESUS is the LAW of Moses. I do agree with you ~7:20 on how it could have been worded differently, but even those difference point to "I am the law of Moses."
Better to sayed:
"I'm give the law of Moses!"
(Or: "I above the law of Moses!")
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YAHSHUA did NOT have to mention that HE is the LAW.
YAHSHUA came to FULFIL the LAW.
So, what does that say?
By the way, if the LAW of Moshe which is the LAW of ELOHIM, is NOT for Today,
tell Us, WHAT is the LAW, or LAWS that We should FOLLOW now, Solberg,
to be HIS (ELOHIM's) SET APART People?
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Oh, OK, there is NO NEED of a SEPARATE DISCUSSION.
This can be DONE HERE, as it may also EDIFY OTHERS in this Video Group Chat.
SHALOM
@@erwinguneratne7600 I understand. Thank you for your response.
Yes ❤️👍 I agree 100% with exactly what you said.
JMJ, O HOLY SPIRIT PLEASE HELP US, THANK YOU AMEN..
While our GOD JESUS CHRIST, is, righteous, and perfect judge, so what is the problem of OUR LORD AND GOD JESUS IS to be THE LAW OF MOSES. even though the words are not in OUR HOLY BIBLE, anyways it is not contradicting OUR LORDS, HUMANS AND DIVINE LIFE IN THIS WORLD, chosen is a movie or a drama whatever it is, just because this dialog or words used in this play, it doesn't mean, new words are added or taken away from THE HOLY BIBLE.
As a catholic some time i am watching. most of the plays are really touching me, like JESUS CALLING THE TAX COLLECTOR, MATHEW, AND CURING THE WOMAN SHE WAS SUFFERING WITH HEMORRHAGE, FOR TWELVE LONG YEARS, it is making me to THINK ABOUT MY GOD, and be proud and say what A AWE-SOME AND MARVELOUS MIGHTY GOD i am worship through our HOLY MOTHER.
however my commitment is, what i am thinking about it, and not contradicting anyone else's thoughts or mind.( please read as comment and not commitment)
MAY THE ALMIGHTY AND MERCIFUL GOD AND SERVICER, LORD JESUS CHRIST BLESSED AND BLESSED HOLY MOTHER GUIDE AND GUARD AND PRAY FOR EVERYONE FOREVER, AMEN.
John says at the end of his Gospel that if everything Jesus ever said or did was written that all the books in the world, could not contain all attributing to Jesus. So it is like INFINITY, and within that , it is likely Jesus would say the Doer of the Law who fulfills all Title of God, would be agreeing He is the Law, as an efficient cause based on Title of God, as sufficient, you cannot avoid the conjecture that Jesus is the Law , just as the Word Made Flesh means according to all instruction given of Heaven to Earth , the Messiah is God, He is the World of God, the Titles of the Priest, the Prophet, the King and the Judge all rolled into one Highest Title thus being "GOD" in Title. This sort of continuum of fufillment could one day apply to all humanity when God pours out his Spirit on all flesh , ending the separation between the Eternal Heaven , and all it portents, with the Earth, making Mankind then exactly like God, no sin , no separation . So Jesus is open to any commentary of equivocation to anything that is in Heaven or on Earth . Jesus is the Son of Man , and the Son of God, thus what is Moses Law is instructions, as it was shown on the Mount of the Transfiguration . Moses and Elijah showing Jesus what he must fulfill and do in Jerusalem . ( Luke 9:31). So any such inference must be true, it is of an INFINITE VARIATION whatever is TRUTH it goes on forever true, no matter how complex it may seem or hard to accept. the Title "WORD OF GOD" is a title for a Priest , Prophet, King, Judge, all lesser titles rolling up to God as a Highest Title . "GOD OF THE GODS, THE LORD OF THE LORDS". The One who puts all the Stars in his Right Hand, he ENTERS THE GLORY , VICTORIOUS ONE GAINS THE SPOILS , His Title, adds up from being Nazirite Priest, to a Prophet of Israel , to the proclamation by Pilate that 'JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS " ( Rome was the King Maker by the NATIONS, not the Jews titling a King ) And when Jesus returns he is JUDGE of the Living and the Dead, putting all titles under GOD to one Person of God, "MESSIAH" . This is how Jesus was glorified , He rose from the dead, and He is the Law and the Prophets, in a TEMPLE OF HUMANITY , as the FIRST of many BRETHREN to be concluded the same as One. So Jesus in Revelation offered the Christians to also sit upon his THRONE , to share with Christ, all the same GLORY of GOD which then in the final judgment be the Estate of Humanity as SAVED. Then we all are ONE , One for ALL and all for ONE. 3=1 God made Man in God's Image, and God is not a vain God. God's Will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven, AMEN.
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@@lark8356 Make your question and I will answer your reply, as I have done.
@@carminefragione4710 I understand. Thank you for your response.
Rob Solberg, So if Yeshua was the one who gave the law of Moses to Israel, then not only are you denying Yeshua's laws, but you are also stating that he has done away with the laws that he gave to Israel to give new laws, being that the first laws he gave were not eternal. Is that what you are saying?
Yeshua being the end of the law for righteousness does not insinuate that the law is done away with once you are taken to Yeshua; if it does, please quote scriptures, or is that an opinion you are giving? Think of it: isn't that like saying, "There is a car wash at the end of the road, and once you can get to the car wash, the road vanishes?"
I had to smile when you almost slipped with a word, but then we do slip with words because we sometimes speak too fast, so you are vindicated.
Yes, I am saying that the Law of Moses was not eternal. It had a starting point (at Sinai, Exodus 20) and an ending point (at Christ, Gal 3:24-35). This has nothing to do with your analogy because the Law of Moses has not vanished. It is still relevant for Christians, even though we're not under its requirements. So, to use your analogy, it's more like saying, "I have given you a car wash to help you until the real Car Washer arrives and declares all cars clean."
Best, Rob
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@@lark8356 are you asking Defending the biblical or sundownsam
Are you aware that the Law of Moses was a type of Suzerain Treaty.
@@sundownsam3369 I don't believe that Torahism is a requirement for believers.
Christ Came to Fulfill the Law
🤜~Matthew 5:17-20~🤛
“Do not think that I am come to destroy the law or the prophets. I am not come to destroy but to fulfill. For amen I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot, or one tittle shall not pass of the law, till all be fulfilled.” ✌~Matthew 5:17-18~✌
“Nolite putare quoniam veni solvere legem, aut prophetas. non veni solvere, sed adimplere. Amen quippe dico vobis, donec transeat caelum et terra, iota unum, aut unus apex non praeteribit a lege, donec omnia fiant.” 🙏~Matthaeus V:XVll-XVlll~🙏
“Μὴ νομίσητε ὅτι ἦλθον καταλῦσαι τὸν νόμον ἢ τοὺς προφήτας· οὐκ ἦλθον καταλῦσαι, ἀλλὰ πληρῶσαι. ἀμὴν γὰρ λέγω ὑμῖν, ἕως ἂν παρέλθῃ ὁ οὐρανὸς καὶ ἡ γῆ, ἰῶτα ἓν ἢ μία κεραία οὐ μὴ παρέλθῃ ἀπὸ τοῦ νόμου ἕως ἂν πάντα γένηται.”
☝~Ματθαίον 5:17-18~☝
Question, how did Yeshua fulfilled the law?
Thank you for adressing this.
Part of the controversy was that some people believe that the Chosen is promoting Mormonism even though the Producer of the show is a Christian.
It sounds similar to the verse from the Book of Mormon.
"Behold, I am the law, and the light. Look unto me, and endure to the end, and ye shall live; for unto him that endureth to the end will I give eternal life." (3 Nephi 15:9)
Not Mormon, not Christian, SDA I believe.
@@waynehobbs5175 not so sure what is with your obsession on SDA?
Jenkins acknowledged working with and developing deep friendships with several members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in recent years with the show. “I stand by the statement that those friends of mine that I'm referring to absolutely love the same Jesus that I do,” he said.May 19, 2022
SDA is non Christian, as are LDS and Jehovahs Witness. All have similar beliefs, stemmed from the 2nd Great Awakening, the Millerite Movement and all received some or all of “their” gospel from an Angel.
Executive producers are mormon
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Usually the questions about Mormon connections to The Chosen arise when people hear that VidAngel - one of the original professional production companies sponsoring the show - is owned and operated by people who come from a Latter-Day Saints faith background.May 22, 2022
The Chosen is not an official ministry of the LDS (which, of course, is what people can assume when they hear “produced by Mormons”).
I think it is worth pointing out that The Chosen has three script consultants: a Roman Catholic priest, a Messianic Jewish rabbi, and an evangelical New Testament scholar (me) Dr. Doug Huffman. All of the consultants are from historic Christianity; there is no LDS script consultant.
So, straight from one of the consultants, no SDA, no Mormons.
Doug Huffman serves as professor of New Testament and associate dean of biblical and theological studies for Talbot School of Theology at Biola University in La Mirada, California.
Dr Huffman is an Evangelical and to my knowledge SDA are not Evangelical
Thanks, Joshua. I am opposed to the theology of Mormonism; they certainly don't worship the same Jesus that Christians do. (For one thing, their Jesus is a created being.) But I haven't noticed the smallest hint of Mormonism in the show itself. I've actually got an interview with an expert on Mormonism coming up on this channel in a couple weeks.
Blessings, Rob
Psalm 19:9-11 TLB - God's laws are pure, eternal, just.
God's laws are pure, eternal, just. They are more desirable than gold. They are sweeter than honey dripping from a honeycomb. For they warn us away.
agree
Y'Shua ISN'T the law of Moses ?????
Read the Bible - I'd like to point you to John 1:1-4,14 - if that doesn't work, you might want to study some Biblical Greek - regardless, I'll be praying, both for you, and to those who think you have a clue ..
ps - if the heavens and the earth are still here, so is the Law of (Moses - GOD - CHRIST)
Hi Kevin! John 1 calls Jesus the Word (λόγος, logos), not the Law (νόμος, nomos). That's a big difference.
Shalom, Rob
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Seems to me, throughout the Bible, the Word and the Law (or Torah) are used interchangeably - what is your definition of "WORD" ??
@@kevinboyle4340The Word and Law are completely different.
When John called Jesus the Word, it is a term that both his Jewish and Gentile readers would have been familiar with.
The Greek word translated “Word” in this passage is Logos, and it was common in both Greek philosophy and Jewish thought of that day. For example, in the Old Testament the “word” of God is often personified as an instrument for the execution of God’s will (Psalm 33:6; 107:20; 119:89; 147:15-18). So, for his Jewish readers, by introducing Jesus as the “Word,” John is in a sense pointing them back to the Old Testament where the Logos or “Word” of God is associated with the personification of God’s revelation.
And in Greek philosophy, the term Logos was used to describe the intermediate agency by which God created material things and communicated with them.
In the Greek worldview, the Logos was thought of as a bridge between the transcendent God and the material universe. Therefore, for his Greek readers the use of the term Logos would have likely brought forth the idea of a mediating principle between God and the world.
In layman terms, John is drawing upon a familiar word and concept that both Jews and Gentiles of his day would have been familiar with and using that as the starting point from which he introduces them to Jesus Christ.
However, John goes beyond the familiar concept of Logos that his Jewish and Gentile readers would have had and presents Jesus Christ not as a mere mediating principle like the Greeks perceived, but as a personal being, fully divine, yet fully human.
In the same token, Jesus was not simply a personification of God’s revelation as the Jews thought, but was indeed God’s perfect revelation of Himself in the flesh, so much so that John would record Jesus’ own words to Philip: "Jesus said unto him, 'Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how do you say, "Show us the Father"?'" (John 14:9).
By using the term Logos or “Word” in John 1:1, John is amplifying and applying a concept with which his audience was familiar and using that to introduce his readers to the true Logos of God in Jesus Christ, the Living Word of God, fully God and yet fully man, who came to reveal God to man and redeem all who believe in Him from their sin.
I hope this helps
I got a little weirded out by some of the statements of the actors and musicians about the show, but God will ultimately use everything to His glory. This reminds me of the "Reckless Love" song controversy. What we watch and listen to can become theology if we let it. This reminded me honestly of Judge Dredd more than anything 😂
Art is rubbish if its not accurate. 2 Corinthians 10:5
King James Version
5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
He is The way , The Truth, and The Life, no one comes to the Father except through Him! Thank you RL for speaking truth. God’s blessings upon you all 🙌🏼🙏🏼
The Law of Moses is an eternal Law. But it is an eternally fulfilled Law. And the righteousness that is in the Law is given to us by grace through faith. Trusting in the cross and the blood of Yeshua for our justification and our redemption. We are therefore no longer under the Law of Moses but under grace. And we fulfill the Law of God when it is written upon our hearts. And when the Law of God is written upon our heart it becomes a natural part of our character. And we can no longer break it. It becomes the perfect Law of Liberty. The truth shall make you free.
I only disagree that the law of Moses is eternal, the Torah was given to Abraham, and an amendment given to Moses due to sin. The law of Abraham was available to those under the law of Moses by faith, but they chose the letter of the law. Jesus did not fulfil the law of Moses, he fulfilled the law of Abraham by faith.
@@simonskinner1450 Yeshua fulfilled the letter of the Law of Moses. By doing so He proved that He is God. When He rose from the dead. And He obtained the righteousness that is in the Law. And He gives it to us by grace through faith when we trust in the cross and the blood of Yeshua. If He had not kept the letter of the Law of Moses He would be dead and we cannot be saved. His death on the cross was the ultimate keeping of the Law of Moses.
@@simonskinner1450 Since Adam fell in the Garden the human race has been in need of correction. The Law of Moses was given to correct us. But all that it did was prove that we are not made of a substance that can bear correction. Being made of the dust of the earth. So in due time God sent His only begotten Son. The Word made flesh. To bear our correction for us. And He offers it to us by grace through faith when we trust in the cross and the blood of Yeshua for our justification and redemption. The cross is the essential keeping of the Law of Moses.
@@michaeldunigan1067 Jesus did not comply with the Torah given to Moses, he was the Messiah as Deuteronomy 18, but the Torah that Jesus kept was that given to Abraham. Moses was given an amendment due to sin.
The Cross brought in the new covenant which combined the covenants of Abraham and Moses, thereby forgiveness of past sins came fir repentance.
@@simonskinner1450 Yeshua was born under the Law of Moses. If He had not kept the letter of the Law of Moses He would not have risen from the dead. No one could be saved. Your theology is in error as the empty grave testifies.
He's the one that gave the "Law of Moses" to Israel. Amen.
John 14:15-17
[15]If ye love me, keep my commandments.
[16]And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
[17]Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Exodus 16:28
[28]And the LORD said unto Moses, How long refuse ye to keep my commandments and my laws?
Matthew 15:3-6
[3]But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
[4]For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.
[5]But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;
[6]And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.
It's permitted but not required. Keep the Lord's day, and do away with the Sabbath. Is that not the same thing. The next verse goes back to loving Him.
Matthew 15:7-9
[7]Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
[8]This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
[9]But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
John 14:6-7
[6]Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
[7]If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
Way
Deuteronomy 10:12-16
[12]And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,
[13]To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?
[14]Behold, the heaven and the heaven of heavens is the LORD'S thy God, the earth also, with all that therein is.
[15]Only the LORD had a delight in thy fathers to love them, and he chose their seed after them, even you above all people, as it is this day.
[16]Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.
Truth
Psalms 119:142
[142]Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is the truth.
Life
Deuteronomy 30:15-20
[15]See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;
[16]In that I command thee this day to love the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the LORD thy God shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to possess it.
[17]But if thine heart turn away, so that thou wilt not hear, but shalt be drawn away, and worship other gods, and serve them;
[18]I denounce unto you this day, that ye shall surely perish, and that ye shall not prolong your days upon the land, whither thou passest over Jordan to go to possess it.
[19]I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
[20]That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.
I do understand that keeping the law doesn't give us life, but is rejection of His commandments love for the one who gave His life for us?
1 Peter 2:21-25
[21]For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:
[22]Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:
[23]Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously:
[24]Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
[25]For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.
He was our example. Example of what? Is He not the Word of God?
Edited the comment to say: No, I am not saying Jesus is the pages of the Bible. I am not saying He is only the law or anything like that. I am saying He is the Word of God made flesh, and the words that God spoke were His Ways, Truth, and Life. God didn't give them rules for sports, He gave them His Law. That's almost all He talked about. Everything He said can be linked to His Law in some way.
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@@AProdigalSonReturned Thank you. I just responded.
Rob, psalm 19:9 says that the law is eternal. Thus if jesus is eternal, he is the law. Just as thr movie says. Mate, read your psalms.
Hi R! I don't think we can say the law is "eternal" because it had a beginning. Galatians 3:17 says that the Law wasn't given until 430 years _after_ Abraham. And the Torah says it was given at Mount Sinai (Exod. 19:1-6), _after_ God rescued Israel out of Egypt. Also, Romans 5:13 says that "sin indeed was in the world _before_ the law was given." So I don't think we can conclude that the law is eternal.
R
@@TheBiblicalRoots that's what the Psalms says, also Psalm 119:160: All your words are true; all your righteous laws are eternal. And Jesus said the law us eternal as it will not pass away. The law was given at mount Sinai, but that doesn't mean he didn't exist before that. If sin existed before the law was given, means there was a law to go against in sin. You are a smart gu, why don't you understand?
@@radostinvasilev599 Hey R! You may not realize what you just said: "If sin existed before the law...it means there was a law." That can't be true because it's a logical contradiction. If sin existed *_before_* the law existed it means there was *_no_* law.
"Sin was in the world before the law was given" (Rom. 5:13).
R.
@@TheBiblicalRoots wrong. Sin is the transgression of the law. No law, no sin. The giving of the law doesn't mean there's no law. The gravity exists regardless if you have been told about it or not. The law declares itself. One is guilty even if he didn't know the law but breached it. Thus sin only comes of breaking the law. Also the Bible numerous times says the gods law is eternal, thus his always been there. Read your Bible carefully, Rob.
I have a big issue with this series. I am not going to get into all of it here. But, there is something about this series that strikes my spirit in the wrong way. I don’t like that Dallas called one of the Mormon producers, his brother in Christ and went on to say that this Mormon was the brains for the show. This bothers me. I think the spirit of Antichrist is starting to form the one world religion. Getting evangelicals and Mormons together? There is something seriously wrong with this.
And this statement by Jesus is very close, a little too close to 3 Nephi 15:9 - “Behold, I am the law, and the light… “
Mormons are working on the production of this series. How can I be okay with this?
😢 There will be deception in a very heavy way. We need to test all the spirits. And so far this one for me personally does not pass the test.
Well said about the difference between art and Scripture! I love your informative videos. Wish you were a pastor so a lot more people would get real meat instead of what's going on in a lot of these government funded churches. I can't stop hearing about The Chosen from communities.
HE IS The FULFILLMENT of The Law
HE IS NOT The Law!
Thank you for clarifying others on this huge doctrinal issue that can be easily overlooked if people aren't paying attention!
Dallas Jenkins says he fault it was doctrinally plausible but couldn't recall the verse that Jesus IS Lord of The Sabbath and that's why no matter what day it is we can find rest in HIM.
Jesus is The AM ❤
Correct. The God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob. He became the curse of the Law on the Tree, but that was only to END the Law of Moses- as per Romans 7. He is the true vine and true Yitzrael of God.
7 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
Rob Solberg, The one thing I noticed about you is that you only respond to what you feel comfortable responding to. You probably won't respond to the following question: John 1:17 says, "For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Yeshua. According to this verse, are all the laws included in Moses' law prior to Yeshua coming into the picture yes or no?
All of the Mosaic laws were given prior to Jesus, yes.
RLS
@@TheBiblicalRoots That was not my question, my question is, are all the laws included in the Mosaic laws?
No. The Mosaic Law does not include all the commands God has given.
The SDA essentially had administrative license on the show and it doesn’t portray my Yeshua in the glory he deserves. But the SDA is a cult and scriptual truth comes second to their traditions. Not unlike Catholicism, Anglicanism and many other man made 'religions'.
I recommend believers not watch it and instead get the gospel from scripture.
Thanks Rob.
Edit, I meant LDS but typed SDA sorry. The former is not Christian.
Funny. Because that is what the show encourages the viewers to do: Read your Bible.
The Instructions of Love upon which all the Torah and Prophets hang is only part of who He is...not all...Yahshua represents more than the Tanakh and Paul's, Peter's, James', Titus', etc. letters ..Rhema, Graphe and Logos and everything else that was created...---to your point and it is well taken, though, He never did say He was the Law of Moses - at least not recorded in the "red letters"...he also never said to celebrate Christmas or Easter anywhere either- there is a lot of different viewpoints---as we all seek truth may we find it in Him
In my opinion there is not a problem with the scene because is true Yeshua is the "Logos, The Living Word made flesh" for the hebrews and Jews at that time, and for us today. Yeshua is The Torah and the whole Tanak. (John 1:1; John 1:14; John 5:39; Luke 24)
Jesus never said "I am the law of Moses" just like he never said "I am God." But here's what he did say.
John 10:34-36 (NRSV): Jesus answered, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, you are gods’? 35 If those to whom the word of God came were called ‘gods’-and the scripture cannot be annulled- 36 can you say that the one whom the Father has sanctified and sent into the world is blaspheming because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?
Here Jesus is clearly claiming to be the Torah.
This line does not contradict Scripture. If Jesus could state that He was "the truth", yet He wasn't literally the concept of truth, then this line can also be valid. Granted, we have no record that He said something like this, but the interpretive model that people are using the villainize it is ridiculous. Jesus is the authority behind the Law of Moses. It's an amazing moment and completely in line with Scripture.
yep, I completely agree, its a simple yet powerful representation. There is no need for harsh criticsm, the scene works and most viewers understand what Jesus is saying.
Wow. This guy couldn't even get it right about the Sabbath having been made for man, and not man for the Sabbath! That right there is very telling indeed!
Jesus did not come to fulfil the law of Moses, he fulfilled the law of Abraham by faith. They deliberately want the Torah given to Moses not Abraham.
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I don't agree with the chosen adding to the word of God. The show is creating complete conversations that do not happen in the Bible.
Not adding. Merely artistically interpreting. Adding to Scripture would be to write new scripture or claiming that your material should be accepted into the canon. The Chosen is doing none of that.
The law was not given to point us to Jesus. It wasn't even given to "us". *This* is absolutely a false teaching and is neither in line with what the law says about itself nor what Jesus says about the law. It's a thing Christians say which leads them to error
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@@lark8356 that sounds very scammy. Aren't you supposed to leave a whatsapp link to drain my accounts?
@@tbishop4961 I understand your skepticism. You're not alone. Thank you for your response.
Jesus is the Word incarnate 😝
Maybe he should've said, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by Him and without Him was not anything made that was made. In Him was life and the life was the light of men and the light shineth in the darkness and the darkness comprehended it not?
i absolutely believe that yahusha is the law of moshes, he was sthe word that was spoken to moshe, and later that same word manifested in the flesh and walked among men , as god in the flesh the giver of the torah, instructions and teachings, rules in which tojlive by , as yhvh is eternal so his his teachings.
I have chosen not to watch The Chosen.
Jesus is the law of Abraham, those clinging to the law of Moses want sin and sacrifice, Jesus fulfilled the Torah of Abraham, the Torah of Moses is an amendment.
Why, why, why follow the law of sin, when the law of faith came by Abraham who is the father of the Jews. When Jesus said "I am", it was the Holy Spirit speaking, as Jesus did not speak of himself.
I have a Ytube video series 'Myths in so-called Christianity' in which I explain from the bible that the Pharisees misunderstood the faith and religion of Abraham, and instead chose sin and sacrifice.