That transmission filter is unique in that it has two types of media. One type of media is finer in an attempt to actually filter the oil, not just strain it like you are referring to, which is all that has been done on previous transmission designs. By not dropping the pan, you miss the opportunity to wipe all the clutch steel wear material off the pan magnet. Having a clean magnet helps to keep the steel material out of the fluid. Also, the filter has its own built-in magnet. So you get a fresh magnet there as well if the filter is changed. If all you are doing is changing the oil, i would do it every 15,000 miles, i would also run it for a few minutes. Wish you would have shown what the fluid looked like on the second drain.
Yes but not a big deal. Just need time, I pumped out the fluid with a pump I bought for $90.00 Dropped the pan without spilling a drop. I used the pump for the front axcel as well. I used Utube to show me how. The tranny fluid is pricy
On my 2018 I dropped the pan, changed the filter, reused the factory gasket (allowed to reuse one time) and pumped new fluid into dipstick hole. I'll probably use you method in 20k miles and so on.
You move thru this video very fast...to the point. This is a true mechanic's channel. We don't need to sit and watch somebody turning a single bolt for 2mins straight. If you can't get a bolt off and need to see that being done on a video, take the car to someone who can. LOL! You jammed on this video!
Your comment makes me happy :) thanks!! I totally agree, nobody want to watch someone struggle through something, and nobody wants to watch a 20 minute video on how to do a 2 minute project. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@bennieaust I'm glad you get it! You're another great channel TH-cam actually should push more. You understand what it takes to get the job done! Appreciate you, Bennie!
Just did this same thing with same pump and it worked great. Only thing is I had 6 quarts and had to go buy 2 more. Very easy to do fluid check at temp. Only burnt my arm once on cat 😂 I was planning on dropping the pan (mine is a ‘17 and very easy to drop) but just did this for the time being. Next year or two I’ll drop it and put in a new filter.
Ok im a bit dumb, so just to verify. 1.) you pump out as much oil fluid as you can. 2.) pump back in new fluid equal to what was pumped out. 3.) turn truck on, cycle through gears (approx 30 sec) 4.) repeat steps 1-3 until you've pumped in 13+/- quarts or until the fluid starts pumping out bright red. 5.) turn truck on, cycle through gears one last time, let truck idle and warm up, check level (see owners manual for recommended level). I got it down, correct?
Please remember the insanely long 'fluid change intervals' provided by the manufactures are strictly for the purpose of getting a credit from the EPA so Ford can say "We recommend at 7500 miles instead of 5,000 miles, so over the life of 100k miles, You will change the oil 13 times in 100k miles, versus 20 times at 5,000 miles, so Ford 'saved' 7 oil changes aka 35 quarts of oil, and the EPA gives them a credit for said fake 'savings'. Turbocharged vehicles are 5k miles on Synthetic, period. Transmission fluid is at 60k with NO towing, or 30-45k with light/medium towing. There is no arguing or other option. There is a reason they only do 60k powertrain warranties, because even if you change the oil every 10k miles, the cams/journals/etc will still last a minimum of 60k miles, but you will be screwed before you ever reach 100k. If you plan on keeping your vehicle for any decent amount of time, and also want a bulletproof service record if you ever want to sell it later, which equals no haggling on the price you set, then Change your fluids often, and KEEP THE RECEIPTS IN A FOLDER. With todays technology take a quick picture of you under the truck, print out the photos, put them in said folder as well, be sure to take a picture of the dash with current mileage each time. Hell take an entire video and keep them on a separate external hard drive so there is no doubt. Enjoy 😎 End of exceedingly long essay~
Yep this works great. Was only able to pump out 4 qts at a time x3 for 12 qt change. AT 52K+ miles fluid was a little brownish but still somewhat opaque reddish if that makes sense. Last pump out of fluid was very red and transparent again. Maybe just me but it does seem to be a bit smoother. Was pretty good shifting to begin with though. Oh and ULV fluid STIIIIIINKS!!! Changed gear lube and trans fluid same day and WOOOOOH my garage smelled great.🤮🤮
My new truck has not come in yet, when it does I’m going to change the oil & tranny fluid very early, because I believe there’s a break in period. I’m going to change the tranny fluid at 10,000 klm I changed my 2021 at 60,000 and it made it much smoother shifting. I won’t change the filter that early. I’ll change the filter out next time at about 60,000 I might by a tight fitting BBQ glove, last time I got burned a few times. I
@@bennieaustI pumped out the fluid and dropped the pan without spilling a drop. It’s not a bad job just takes time. I used a Utube video ( Makuloco) was the guy, to see how.
@@mcmuskie2563he’s got a great channel!! I made this video to offer an alternative method that’s VERY diy friendly because I hadn’t seen anyone else covering it this way.
My 2021 took 6 quarts. I agree, the filter seems to course to brother changing. I usedna Harbor Freight fluid extractor with air compressor. Then I used a funnel with tubing from engine bay, used gravity to fill same amount back in. I warmed it up and checked the level.
I wouldn’t recommend measuring. You are only ensuring you get it back to where it was. Was it at the correct level to begin with? I have heard too many stories about transmissions not begin filled correctly to feel good about recommending that method. Taking a picture of the level at the start is a good suggestion as long as you are certain to duplicate temperature. Temperature will greatly affect fluid level.
Could you break into the transmission fluid lines, set the outgoing (to cooler) line to drain into a bucket, and provide a supply of fresh fluid to the return line so that all the old fluid could be cycled out? We do it this way on our Toyotas.
I like to do it that way when possible too. With this transmission there isn't a good way to do that. The transmission cooler is bolted right on to the transmission.
I flushed mine earlier this summer. I disconnected the transmission line in the front bottom behind the bumper. I was told that fluid would not run through these lines unless the thermostatic bypass valve was open which is around 195°+. When I started the truck, fluid was flowing through the line slowly. Does that mean it was open? Or was it flowing through somewhere els?
Thanks so much for this instruction. Doing the same service next week when the ULV arrives. About $8 per quart for Motorcraft from Rock Auto with shipping. So theoretically, if I measure what I pump out and put the same amount back in I should be really close on my fluid level?
@@bennieaust I understand I have old school thinking like that ingrained in me too. But they have phd's working on these new synthetics and the data shows they really hold up. My f250 calls for 150k service but I did it at 100k I just couldn't wait. It just didn't seem right. But it was probably a waste of money
@@tmyers1492, I’m perfectly ok with extended service intervals, but I cut them shorter when the fluid looks overdue for a change. My experience with these 10 speed transmissions is that they look like they need it by 60k-70k miles. The service is cheap and easy compared to replacing a transmission so that what I would recommend. You can service yours however you feel is best and that won’t bother me one bit. :)
I have a vacume fluid extractor from harbor freight not sure if I can get the stiff tube up there, it is tight. Might have to get an L shapped adaptor. Or just use my hand pump like yours.
My vacuum pump came with a flexible hose which worked well. The vacuum model is easy to use and sucks it out quick, but you need a compressor to activate it.
Was the color of the fluid much different on the second drain? Also appreciate the video, I had the same opinion on the filter change not really being needed as often as some.
The fluid was definitely lighter in color on the second change. The fluid will mix and it's not like you will be able to get all the old out and replace it with new, but this will work pretty well, especially if not overdue on service.
My truck at 51kmiles contemplating this method as a first timer. Also what brand fluids I should use for diff and transfer case not to void powertrain warranty?
As far as I have heard, they can’t void warranty for non motorcraft brands of oil. I would suggest asking the dealer who you would bring it to for warranty work for clarification on this.
@@bennieaust yeah it’s just that in retail sites or rock auto they’ll have Valvoline instead of motorcraft. But besides that, any oil extractor should work, I have 6 liter extractor meant to be used on oil dipstick into the engine pan.
I did what you did in the vid and when I was done it was at the 6 mark but I only had 1/4 qt left so I so put that in there and called it a day. Now I’m wondering was that enough
It will definitely mix. You are basically going for a better rate of dilution. If you do a transmission flush and exchange 100% of the fluid at once you will not have that issue. I’m not sure if you can even do that on these trucks because they no longer have lines that go to a cooler at the front of the vehicle.
@@bennieaust ahhh okay, yeah that's what I thought, from other videos, it looks more complex with having to loosen lines and what not... what a pain in the d*ck
I recently purchased a used 2020 f150 3.5 ecoboost with about 49K miles. I don't know if the previous owners towed much but that's what I plan to do with it. Ford only recommends service at 150K. What's your recommendation?
There is a difference filter wise btw. If you have the Powerboost, look for 10R80-MHT model transmission for the filter, there appear to be subtle differences between hybrid and non-hybrid filters.
It can be done the same way. On the 6 speed, it is much easier to drop the pan (and change the filter), but doing it this way is always easy, not very messy, and effective at changing out the old fluid.
Just some background - I started having severe shuttering issues at 65k miles and was desperate for a fix, to the point where I was about to put in the instant shutter fix. But this weekend I took your advice and did the fluid change. Remarkably, it completely removed the shuttering! As other mechanics have said, do not heed Ford's recommendation to change the fluid at 100k miles, it definitely needs to be changed much earlier.
Simple and to the point - finally a video for what I had been wanting to do. Thanks!
You’re welcome!!
That transmission filter is unique in that it has two types of media. One type of media is finer in an attempt to actually filter the oil, not just strain it like you are referring to, which is all that has been done on previous transmission designs. By not dropping the pan, you miss the opportunity to wipe all the clutch steel wear material off the pan magnet. Having a clean magnet helps to keep the steel material out of the fluid. Also, the filter has its own built-in magnet. So you get a fresh magnet there as well if the filter is changed. If all you are doing is changing the oil, i would do it every 15,000 miles, i would also run it for a few minutes. Wish you would have shown what the fluid looked like on the second drain.
Thanks for your added insight!
Yes sir, I have done the filter/fluid change. It is quite involved.
Yes but not a big deal. Just need time, I pumped out the fluid with a pump I bought for $90.00
Dropped the pan without spilling a drop.
I used the pump for the front axcel as well.
I used Utube to show me how. The tranny fluid is pricy
On my 2018 I dropped the pan, changed the filter, reused the factory gasket (allowed to reuse one time) and pumped new fluid into dipstick hole. I'll probably use you method in 20k miles and so on.
I have a 2023. I am trying get information on how to change out everything.
You move thru this video very fast...to the point. This is a true mechanic's channel. We don't need to sit and watch somebody turning a single bolt for 2mins straight. If you can't get a bolt off and need to see that being done on a video, take the car to someone who can. LOL! You jammed on this video!
Your comment makes me happy :) thanks!!
I totally agree, nobody want to watch someone struggle through something, and nobody wants to watch a 20 minute video on how to do a 2 minute project.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@bennieaust I'm glad you get it! You're another great channel TH-cam actually should push more. You understand what it takes to get the job done! Appreciate you, Bennie!
Last night I did both differentials and the transfer case at 61k, glad I did the fluid was dirty but not really bad yet.
I find the front diff oil to be the worst of it all typically.
Yep, I used the HF fluid extractor to get it out. Then put 1/2 tubing on a funnel fed from the engine bay ti fill it. Let gravity do the work.
@@bennieaustya mine showed fine metal fillings which made the fluid look greyish. Hardly use the 4x4 yet it seems dirty.
Great video, Thank you!
You’re welcome!
Just did this same thing with same pump and it worked great. Only thing is I had 6 quarts and had to go buy 2 more. Very easy to do fluid check at temp. Only burnt my arm once on cat 😂 I was planning on dropping the pan (mine is a ‘17 and very easy to drop) but just did this for the time being. Next year or two I’ll drop it and put in a new filter.
Thanks for the video. I am going to do this also.
You're welcome!
Since we are only doing 5-6 quarts I will do every 30k at least. Then see how it looks. 60k would be OK if you completely changed the fluid.
Ok im a bit dumb, so just to verify.
1.) you pump out as much oil fluid as you can.
2.) pump back in new fluid equal to what was pumped out.
3.) turn truck on, cycle through gears (approx 30 sec)
4.) repeat steps 1-3 until you've pumped in 13+/- quarts or until the fluid starts pumping out bright red.
5.) turn truck on, cycle through gears one last time, let truck idle and warm up, check level (see owners manual for recommended level).
I got it down, correct?
You got it!
Please remember the insanely long 'fluid change intervals' provided by the manufactures are strictly for the purpose of getting a credit from the EPA so Ford can say "We recommend at 7500 miles instead of 5,000 miles, so over the life of 100k miles, You will change the oil 13 times in 100k miles, versus 20 times at 5,000 miles, so Ford 'saved' 7 oil changes aka 35 quarts of oil, and the EPA gives them a credit for said fake 'savings'. Turbocharged vehicles are 5k miles on Synthetic, period. Transmission fluid is at 60k with NO towing, or 30-45k with light/medium towing. There is no arguing or other option. There is a reason they only do 60k powertrain warranties, because even if you change the oil every 10k miles, the cams/journals/etc will still last a minimum of 60k miles, but you will be screwed before you ever reach 100k. If you plan on keeping your vehicle for any decent amount of time, and also want a bulletproof service record if you ever want to sell it later, which equals no haggling on the price you set, then Change your fluids often, and KEEP THE RECEIPTS IN A FOLDER. With todays technology take a quick picture of you under the truck, print out the photos, put them in said folder as well, be sure to take a picture of the dash with current mileage each time. Hell take an entire video and keep them on a separate external hard drive so there is no doubt. Enjoy 😎
End of exceedingly long essay~
ford could just put a drain plug in the pain. There are AM pans with this and they make fluid changes alot easier
That would have made things much easier.
Yep this works great.
Was only able to pump out 4 qts at a time x3 for 12 qt change.
AT 52K+ miles fluid was a little brownish but still somewhat opaque reddish if that makes sense.
Last pump out of fluid was very red and transparent again.
Maybe just me but it does seem to be a bit smoother. Was pretty good shifting to begin with though.
Oh and ULV fluid STIIIIIINKS!!!
Changed gear lube and trans fluid same day and WOOOOOH my garage smelled great.🤮🤮
Glad it’s all working great for you!!
My new truck has not come in yet, when it does I’m going to change the oil & tranny fluid very early, because I believe there’s a break in period.
I’m going to change the tranny fluid at 10,000 klm
I changed my 2021 at 60,000 and it made it much smoother shifting.
I won’t change the filter that early. I’ll change the filter out next time at about 60,000
I might by a tight fitting BBQ glove, last time I got burned a few times.
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BTW, they don't make the drain plug pan for Powerboost.
Very nice i have the same hand pump to i have been looking for a reason to use it
You’re all set then!
I am debating getting the pan with drain hole but the pumps and fluid extractors work well.
It’s the pan removal that’s a big job on these.
@@bennieaustI pumped out the fluid and dropped the pan without spilling a drop. It’s not a bad job just takes time. I used a Utube video ( Makuloco) was the guy, to see how.
@@mcmuskie2563he’s got a great channel!!
I made this video to offer an alternative method that’s VERY diy friendly because I hadn’t seen anyone else covering it this way.
My 2021 took 6 quarts. I agree, the filter seems to course to brother changing. I usedna Harbor Freight fluid extractor with air compressor. Then I used a funnel with tubing from engine bay, used gravity to fill same amount back in. I warmed it up and checked the level.
Just measure the fluid coming out put the same in. Or before check the dip stick take a photo or make a note that way you can double check.
I wouldn’t recommend measuring. You are only ensuring you get it back to where it was. Was it at the correct level to begin with? I have heard too many stories about transmissions not begin filled correctly to feel good about recommending that method.
Taking a picture of the level at the start is a good suggestion as long as you are certain to duplicate temperature. Temperature will greatly affect fluid level.
Could you break into the transmission fluid lines, set the outgoing (to cooler) line to drain into a bucket, and provide a supply of fresh fluid to the return line so that all the old fluid could be cycled out? We do it this way on our Toyotas.
I like to do it that way when possible too. With this transmission there isn't a good way to do that. The transmission cooler is bolted right on to the transmission.
Yay, sound!
I flushed mine earlier this summer. I disconnected the transmission line in the front bottom behind the bumper. I was told that fluid would not run through these lines unless the thermostatic bypass valve was open which is around 195°+. When I started the truck, fluid was flowing through the line slowly. Does that mean it was open? Or was it flowing through somewhere els?
I haven't tried to do that so I can only guess, but it sounds like it was partially open.
Thanks so much for this instruction. Doing the same service next week when the ULV arrives.
About $8 per quart for Motorcraft from Rock Auto with shipping.
So theoretically, if I measure what I pump out and put the same amount back in I should be really close on my fluid level?
Yes, that should get you very close. I would absolutely recommend checking the level, but you will be close.
Should the dipstick read between 5 and 6 for all engines? 5.0L, 3.5L ecoboost, 2wd, 4wd, etc
That’s correct. There are a few different types of dip sticks, but if you have this one, that’s correct.
I don't think that service needs to be done until 100k but then it needs a filter.
I personally would not wait until 100k miles.
@@bennieaust I understand I have old school thinking like that ingrained in me too. But they have phd's working on these new synthetics and the data shows they really hold up. My f250 calls for 150k service but I did it at 100k I just couldn't wait. It just didn't seem right. But it was probably a waste of money
@@tmyers1492, I’m perfectly ok with extended service intervals, but I cut them shorter when the fluid looks overdue for a change. My experience with these 10 speed transmissions is that they look like they need it by 60k-70k miles. The service is cheap and easy compared to replacing a transmission so that what I would recommend. You can service yours however you feel is best and that won’t bother me one bit. :)
@bennieaust mine has a six speed. That makes sense that the ten speed shifts a lot more and would produce more dirt.
I have a vacume fluid extractor from harbor freight not sure if I can get the stiff tube up there, it is tight. Might have to get an L shapped adaptor. Or just use my hand pump like yours.
Access isn't terrible, but you will need to bend it 180 degrees.
My vacuum pump came with a flexible hose which worked well. The vacuum model is easy to use and sucks it out quick, but you need a compressor to activate it.
Was the color of the fluid much different on the second drain? Also appreciate the video, I had the same opinion on the filter change not really being needed as often as some.
The fluid was definitely lighter in color on the second change. The fluid will mix and it's not like you will be able to get all the old out and replace it with new, but this will work pretty well, especially if not overdue on service.
My truck at 51kmiles contemplating this method as a first timer.
Also what brand fluids I should use for diff and transfer case not to void powertrain warranty?
As far as I have heard, they can’t void warranty for non motorcraft brands of oil. I would suggest asking the dealer who you would bring it to for warranty work for clarification on this.
@@bennieaust yeah it’s just that in retail sites or rock auto they’ll have Valvoline instead of motorcraft. But besides that, any oil extractor should work, I have 6 liter extractor meant to be used on oil dipstick into the engine pan.
How much would you have to add to get it in between 6 and 5 if the reading is at 6. Would it be half or a quarter of a quart ?
I did what you did in the vid and when I was done it was at the 6 mark but I only had 1/4 qt left so I so put that in there and called it a day. Now I’m wondering was that enough
@@ChurnMushonly one way to find out for sure! You should be close, but check the dipstick to verify.
@@bennieaustjust checked and it was right between 5 and 6
I just checked my fluid with truck cold. It looks way over filled. Is this normal?
I’m not sure what level it will be at in that situation, but you should definitely follow the level checking procedure to verify it’s correct.
was the engine running when you checked the fluid level?
@@ericgalvan3589 yep
Was this done on a hot or cold truck? Trying to see if I get more fluid out while hot or cold.
You will get slightly more fluid out when hot.
my 2018 xlt is shifting slowly when it goes into 8 th when its hot. will this help the shifting?
I can’t guarantee it will, but in my opinion it’s the best starting point.
so the new fluid doesn't mix with the old fluid when doing the second extraction??? Genuinely curious because I have to do mine soon
It will definitely mix. You are basically going for a better rate of dilution. If you do a transmission flush and exchange 100% of the fluid at once you will not have that issue. I’m not sure if you can even do that on these trucks because they no longer have lines that go to a cooler at the front of the vehicle.
@@bennieaust ahhh okay, yeah that's what I thought, from other videos, it looks more complex with having to loosen lines and what not... what a pain in the d*ck
I recently purchased a used 2020 f150 3.5 ecoboost with about 49K miles. I don't know if the previous owners towed much but that's what I plan to do with it. Ford only recommends service at 150K. What's your recommendation?
From what I’ve been seeing, based on how the fluid looks, I’d recommend ever 60k miles. It’s cheap insurance.
@@bennieaust I just crawled under my truck to pull the dip stick and smell / look a the oil. Plug is so tight I couldn't even turn it.
@@joesawyer931 :( if I had encountered that I would have hit my wrench with a dead blow hammer. Luckily I didn’t.
How many letters for King Ranch F 150 model 2018 ?
Mine is due for change.
If it's the same 10 speed transmission it should be the same as this.
Can I use ULV full synthetic? It says meets specs for ford and gm with 10r80
yes
How many quarts did you remover he second time you pumped some out?
The same amount. As much as possible both times.
Amazon says trasnsmision fluid does not fit f150 2019
For calls out for ULV fluid.
Is this car a hybrid?
If not, is there a difference between it and a hybrid or not?
This one is not a hybrid. The service should be the same for all F150s with this 10 speed.
There is a difference filter wise btw. If you have the Powerboost, look for 10R80-MHT model transmission for the filter, there appear to be subtle differences between hybrid and non-hybrid filters.
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Is this procedure any different on a 2017 V8 6 speed?
It can be done the same way. On the 6 speed, it is much easier to drop the pan (and change the filter), but doing it this way is always easy, not very messy, and effective at changing out the old fluid.
@@bennieaust Great, thanks for the response.
@@kris3222 you're welcome!
Just some background - I started having severe shuttering issues at 65k miles and was desperate for a fix, to the point where I was about to put in the instant shutter fix. But this weekend I took your advice and did the fluid change. Remarkably, it completely removed the shuttering!
As other mechanics have said, do not heed Ford's recommendation to change the fluid at 100k miles, it definitely needs to be changed much earlier.
@@kris3222 thanks for adding you results Kris. I’m really glad it resolved your issues!!
why are we draining and filling, then draining and filling?
Because a single drain and fill does not get all the fluid out
PERFECT! i just didn't know, thanks for the vid and reply!
@@jasonjonesis you’re welcome Jason!
Where you get the pump from ? If you got a link
It’s all in the description.