@@ESS10Speedappreciate the info just got a 2021 F-150 from the auction rebuilding it so just wanted to know for future reference. I think it's not bad bcuz ppl r paying that or more for stock builds which are going to end up going out anyways the way he's doing it sounds legit
He did a transmission for StangMode, which is where I first heard about him. Like his work for sure. I didn’t know he did the engine work as well. That engines kinda crazy.
@@imadog131 it cost me around $4300. This includes a lot of things including new valve body, updated CDF drum, New Front Support, also used Amsoil Fluid.
I have an ‘18 2.7 with 5* 93 Performance tune - that just turned over 100k. It seems to be running fine. What could I be doing within my power to keep it running good? More frequent service? Additive? Not sure if it matter, I drive it in M mode 75% of the time. I don’t trust it to search for gears.
I’m getting ready to take my 2018 f150 10r80 out because it’s having the issue where it goes only into 1-2 gear and then locks when going into 3rd. Ford said their tech of 25 years has never seen it. I appreciate your knowledge! Thank you
2018 here as well. It was doing that same thing until the transmission temp was around 180-190, then it wouldn't be so bad. We'll shame on me I had the transmission serviced, fluids, and filter. We'll that was the wrong thing to do. The truck is a paperweight now because driving it is not safe. Loss of power, can't shift fully, slams into gear when it does and the gear indicator quickly jumps around. I've seen it go from 8th gear to 1st!!! Luckily, because the transmission is such a pos that the ecm sent the signal to go back to 8 before the transmission actually did shift to 1st.
Probably one cause for the failure is the high temps. My guess is the aluminum drum expands more than the bushing material so then the bushing is smaller than the bore and easily slide. No different than when you heat or cool parts to get a "slip" fit that becomes an interference fit once the pieces are the same temperature.
So the 80 is the better one to have? How much does the man charge to build this? Looking as a 2024 unit to do the same thing. Looking for a heads up...
Is there a thermostat in the automatic transmission or the cooler 2019 f150 2.7 4x4 Alot ppl seem to think so Having weird temperatures New 170 thermostat Engine stays 180F Transmission is all over the place
I'll be covering some of that in a future video. You are correct, I was having the same issues. I switched to Oz tuning and he was able to get that fixed for me. I'm not exactly sure what he does but I know he changes the fueling to keep it from dying.
@@BackroadDriver Thank you. Thinking of switching as well but love the ease of the Livernois tuner. Wanted a actual comparison if it was worth it. Thanks again
I liked my livernois tune as well but my truck was dying at almost every single red light and stop sign. After I put my new motor in I got with Ken and started the tuning process shortly thereafter. It takes a few revisions for him to get everything perfect but it's worth it. My truck also picked up about a half second on 93 and a full second on e85 in the quarter mile. That's running a 3.875 on 93 and a 3.5 on e85. Same pulleys as the livernois tune.
Being a 23 model your transmission almost certainly has the updated CDF drum but it does not have upgraded clutch packs and steels. It doesn't have any extra clutch packs and steels in certain areas either. It should be better than previous years but it is not considered a built transmission. Having it built aftermarket is the only way to upgrade its capacity and durability. That being said the upgraded CDF drum is a great start.
@@BackroadDriver So I’m thinking of going with a Ford Performance Whipple at 700HP. I do not look to pulley down or go crazy with any other mods in order to keep my warranty. Should I be worried about rebuilding my 10R80 with the upgraded clutch packs and steels at 700HP or should I be ok and not be worried? Thank you for responding!
@toddjohnson7787 Heat is what kills transmissions and cats. If you don't dog it all the time and make back to back to back pulls you're going to be fine. I would recommend having the transmission and oil temps visible to monitor and always be aware of them. You can do that with forscan if you have the digital dash. If not I would recommend getting an aftermarket product for that. It makes you pay attention and not do dumb stuff at the worst possible time. I learned this lesson the hard way.
@@BackroadDriver Just purchased me a Banks Data Monster and mount. I can’t wait for it to get here! My next mod is some custom paint matched Up Country traction bars to put the power to the ground then the FP700 Whipple. Thanks again.
Back in my day a bad automatic slipped, a hard shift meant she was mint! Jokes aside, this video popped up when I searched 10 speed rebuild. Wanted to see if they are worth anything
I got a 18 5.0 Ford, said the computer needed to be flashed, and the transmission got worse, and it Rev up and locked up, going into second and slamming into second, lungging the truck forward
I have a problem with a 2018 Raptor / oil spilling from the ventilation pipe / then I noticed that one of the cooling oil pipes is hot and another pipe is cold / I think the oil cooling cycle has a problem so the transmission becomes hotter / but have you encountered the same problem and what are the solutions? For your information, I changed the outer cooler previously and the problem still exists. Thank you
can you help with my 2020 expedition max 3.5l EcoBoost with 10r80. After drove for 20 mins when trans at 5th gear and I hit the gas pedal hard to accelerate, the car feel like something hit it ( vibrate hard) and no gear show in the dash, after 1-2 second its show 4th gear or 5th gear and keep driving fine. does not happened when cold start. I checked fluid at 206 deg and it is between 5 and 6 on the dip. only happened at 5th gear with accelerate hard. soft acceleration did not happen.
Hey, Would Scott possibly know when the Updated FORD 10R80's were in the System from FORD? I mean like when would the New Built Updated FORD 10R80's that are actually sent to the dealership's actually be in the System. I'am asking because my 2022 F-150 (Built March 22), Just had a "Supposedly" Complete 10R80 Sent to California from Memphis in Late September of 2023. Would Scott know "If" this New Tranny would have been an Updated Unit? I know Scott don't have a Crystal Ball 😂 but would it be long enough in Time to Be of the Updated Version? Thanks Guy's. Wish I could have afforded to have Scott do mine instead of another FORD Unit.
I know this is off topic for the video but I’ve got a lariat speced out very similar to the wolf with a vmp supercharger and I was wondering if you guys would be willing to sell me the venom Rex wheels if you arnt really using them anymore. You can post my truck on the channel as a wolf 2.0 seeming they are identical minus the blackout sports appearance package
According to my knowledge, fixing a 10R80 transmission for a Mustang costs around 4 grand, while the whole assembly costs 4 grand without installation. At these prices, why would you opt for repair? Am I missing something?
If you buy a new one you don’t get the upgrades and it will break again after you add power. The built stock trans is much stronger and fixes the design flaws.
The new transmissions probably have the upgraded CDF drum but they will not have upgraded steels and clutches as well as extra steels and clutches in the high risk drums of the transmission. You are basically paying to upgrade so the transmission can handle more power for a longer period of time.
The 10r80 is a piece of garbage from the factory. Blew mine this year at 59,500 miles, stock. Month later it was replaced. A month after that it blew the oil pan gasket and spewed all my atf fluid, had to be towed after it left me stranded in one of the worst parts of St. Louis. New trans is sloppy just like the last one.
@@KeithWilliams-uw9ym first 25k miles i drove it normal. After multiple dealer visits and pathetic patch fixes as i call them (resetting of the computer to relearn driving habits) i was left with the same problems over and over. I got ignorant with my service manager and he literally told me the only way ford will fix it is if i blew it up so thats what i did. I drove it into the ground, stop light to stop light, highway pulls, brake torques. It finally started slipping and was slamming gears even harder. They tried replacing the valve body first which led them having my truck stuck in gear. They dismantled my 10r80 and said multiple clutch packs were burnt, bushings destroyed and main input shaft was chewed up where a bushing was sliding instead of remaining in place. It got replaced with a brand new 10r80. It still suffers from the original shifting issues. On the highway the transmission is fine, its when you make sudden stops or cruise the hills when it gets completely lost and im not happy with it. Its a 2018 with the 5.0L. Friends with multiple other brands dont experience this nonsense. I left the GM world after questionable quality issues, seems Ford isnt any better. Whats truly sad is gm uses a different tune on its 10l80 and suffers far less issues. Ford on the other hand has to keep paying lawyers off to keep them out of a multi-billion dollar recall
Shoutout to Scott, he took care of my 10r80. The best in the business!
How much does it end up costing?
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@@leandyp9107 all together with new valve body and Amsoil fluid, 4300$ this is for a stage 2 build.
@@ESS10Speedappreciate the info just got a 2021 F-150 from the auction rebuilding it so just wanted to know for future reference. I think it's not bad bcuz ppl r paying that or more for stock builds which are going to end up going out anyways the way he's doing it sounds legit
@@leandyp9107 Scott is the man. He’ll get you taken care of.
So happy to see the hammer and Sam back on the channel!
Scott is amazing at what he does. He’s helped me get my 6R80 crew cab in the 9’s.
Hey bro, it was a pleasure meeting you and your wife today. Glad my buddy found your laptop!
Great to meet you too man! I will have you come up when we get the new garage set up!
@@BackroadDriver sounds great!
how much does one of scott’s built transmissions cost
He did a transmission for StangMode, which is where I first heard about him. Like his work for sure. I didn’t know he did the engine work as well. That engines kinda crazy.
I thought ford fixed the dcf bushing issue with a revised part and it was not supposed to do that anymore?
I want to know how he adds an extra clutch in all of those clutch assemblies? Snap ring thickness or simply entirely different steels and fibers
Will definitely be keeping Scott's info handy for future reference. Like what i've seen from him!
What’s approx cost to have this done?
@@imadog131 it cost me around $4300. This includes a lot of things including new valve body, updated CDF drum, New Front Support, also used Amsoil Fluid.
Brad you are still number 1 for transmisions
Love this video
Yes sir!
@@BackroadDriver lifegoals. Do a ton of burnouts.
I have an ‘18 2.7 with 5* 93 Performance tune - that just turned over 100k. It seems to be running fine. What could I be doing within my power to keep it running good? More frequent service? Additive?
Not sure if it matter, I drive it in M mode 75% of the time. I don’t trust it to search for gears.
I’m getting ready to take my 2018 f150 10r80 out because it’s having the issue where it goes only into 1-2 gear and then locks when going into 3rd. Ford said their tech of 25 years has never seen it. I appreciate your knowledge! Thank you
There is a class action lawsuit currently that was filed in May, I believe that you should look into.
2018 here as well. It was doing that same thing until the transmission temp was around 180-190, then it wouldn't be so bad. We'll shame on me I had the transmission serviced, fluids, and filter. We'll that was the wrong thing to do. The truck is a paperweight now because driving it is not safe. Loss of power, can't shift fully, slams into gear when it does and the gear indicator quickly jumps around. I've seen it go from 8th gear to 1st!!! Luckily, because the transmission is such a pos that the ecm sent the signal to go back to 8 before the transmission actually did shift to 1st.
Probably one cause for the failure is the high temps. My guess is the aluminum drum expands more than the bushing material so then the bushing is smaller than the bore and easily slide. No different than when you heat or cool parts to get a "slip" fit that becomes an interference fit once the pieces are the same temperature.
Scott is the man… when can we expect the 10R from the Superduty for some upgrades?
Bad ass, how long did it take for him to put it back together 😃
Several hours
So the 80 is the better one to have? How much does the man charge to build this? Looking as a 2024 unit to do the same thing. Looking for a heads up...
Is there a thermostat in the automatic transmission or the cooler
2019 f150 2.7 4x4
Alot ppl seem to think so
Having weird temperatures
New 170 thermostat
Engine stays 180F
Transmission is all over the place
Has anyone looked into BD diesel transmissions? They look very solid and addressed the main issue with the 10r80s?
Any updates on the Hammer. Having a issue with mine cutting off coming to a stop heard turner change helped yours. Thanks
I'll be covering some of that in a future video. You are correct, I was having the same issues. I switched to Oz tuning and he was able to get that fixed for me. I'm not exactly sure what he does but I know he changes the fueling to keep it from dying.
@@BackroadDriver Thank you. Thinking of switching as well but love the ease of the Livernois tuner. Wanted a actual comparison if it was worth it. Thanks again
I liked my livernois tune as well but my truck was dying at almost every single red light and stop sign. After I put my new motor in I got with Ken and started the tuning process shortly thereafter. It takes a few revisions for him to get everything perfect but it's worth it. My truck also picked up about a half second on 93 and a full second on e85 in the quarter mile. That's running a 3.875 on 93 and a 3.5 on e85. Same pulleys as the livernois tune.
@@BackroadDriver after seeing the gt350 think my house is up for sale lol. Nice builds you guys. Miss the content.
@vdubnu we are trying to get it cranked up more often. Thanks for watching!
Awesome video, you need to tear up another transmission to have him back again
What's the fix to keep the bushing from sliding in the C D F drum?
Any word on the drum of the 21 be dropped in an 18 case? And how about valve body swapping?
Do you launch in 4h and then put into 2h after launch?
Getting my 2020 F-150 transmission rebuilt after 40K. Easy driver.
I have a 2023 XLT. Is rebuilding the 10R80 the only way to have the updated CDF drum and some of the other components?
Being a 23 model your transmission almost certainly has the updated CDF drum but it does not have upgraded clutch packs and steels. It doesn't have any extra clutch packs and steels in certain areas either. It should be better than previous years but it is not considered a built transmission. Having it built aftermarket is the only way to upgrade its capacity and durability. That being said the upgraded CDF drum is a great start.
@@BackroadDriver So I’m thinking of going with a Ford Performance Whipple at 700HP. I do not look to pulley down or go crazy with any other mods in order to keep my warranty. Should I be worried about rebuilding my 10R80 with the upgraded clutch packs and steels at 700HP or should I be ok and not be worried? Thank you for responding!
@toddjohnson7787 Heat is what kills transmissions and cats. If you don't dog it all the time and make back to back to back pulls you're going to be fine. I would recommend having the transmission and oil temps visible to monitor and always be aware of them. You can do that with forscan if you have the digital dash. If not I would recommend getting an aftermarket product for that. It makes you pay attention and not do dumb stuff at the worst possible time. I learned this lesson the hard way.
@@BackroadDriver Just purchased me a Banks Data Monster and mount. I can’t wait for it to get here! My next mod is some custom paint matched Up Country traction bars to put the power to the ground then the FP700 Whipple. Thanks again.
Back in my day a bad automatic slipped, a hard shift meant she was mint! Jokes aside, this video popped up when I searched 10 speed rebuild. Wanted to see if they are worth anything
whats the rebuild cost for a stock f150 with upgraded cdf that ford came out with?
Ever find out the price?
@loganhenry1197 contact Scott on his Instagram. Should be in the description and also on the screen in the video close to the end.
I got a 18 5.0 Ford, said the computer needed to be flashed, and the transmission got worse, and it Rev up and locked up, going into second and slamming into second, lungging the truck forward
Idle gear on the pump always blown out.. 10r80 and 10l80
How much is this build ?
What was the cost to rebuild the transmission? I’m having similar issues (not as bad)
It's in the 4k range. Contact Scott for pricing.
How much is stage 1 rebuild
Great informative video.
Cool video!
I have a problem with a 2018 Raptor / oil spilling from the ventilation pipe / then I noticed that one of the cooling oil pipes is hot and another pipe is cold / I think the oil cooling cycle has a problem so the transmission becomes hotter / but have you encountered the same problem and what are the solutions? For your information, I changed the outer cooler previously and the problem still exists. Thank you
Check the transmission cooler thermo bypass valve , its known that it will stuck closed or open , and it looks like yours is stuck closed.
How much does out of warranty repair cost?
can you help with my 2020 expedition max 3.5l EcoBoost with 10r80. After drove for 20 mins when trans at 5th gear and I hit the gas pedal hard to accelerate, the car feel like something hit it ( vibrate hard) and no gear show in the dash, after 1-2 second its show 4th gear or 5th gear and keep driving fine. does not happened when cold start. I checked fluid at 206 deg and it is between 5 and 6 on the dip. only happened at 5th gear with accelerate hard. soft acceleration did not happen.
Hey, Would Scott possibly know when the Updated FORD 10R80's were in the System from FORD? I mean like when would the New Built Updated FORD 10R80's that are actually sent to the dealership's actually be in the System. I'am asking because my 2022 F-150 (Built March 22), Just had a "Supposedly" Complete 10R80 Sent to California from Memphis in Late September of 2023. Would Scott know "If" this New Tranny would have been an Updated Unit? I know Scott don't have a Crystal Ball 😂 but would it be long enough in Time to Be of the Updated Version? Thanks Guy's. Wish I could have afforded to have Scott do mine instead of another FORD Unit.
Should of went midnight performance some of the best and fastest f150s in the game and go with lund tune
Is this a common problem for Ford's 10 speed transmission? What's the probability of hitting this?
what is the cost to rebuild the 2018 10r80 transmission?
I would reach out to Scott. Depends on your issues and if it has any warranty.
Ford just gave me a ball park number at 15 grand
I know this is off topic for the video but I’ve got a lariat speced out very similar to the wolf with a vmp supercharger and I was wondering if you guys would be willing to sell me the venom Rex wheels if you arnt really using them anymore. You can post my truck on the channel as a wolf 2.0 seeming they are identical minus the blackout sports appearance package
There are an awful lot of unanswered questions in this chat. It would be nice if these content creators followed up.
According to my knowledge, fixing a 10R80 transmission for a Mustang costs around 4 grand, while the whole assembly costs 4 grand without installation. At these prices, why would you opt for repair? Am I missing something?
If you buy a new one you don’t get the upgrades and it will break again after you add power. The built stock trans is much stronger and fixes the design flaws.
@@BackroadDriver I thought that they're selling / installing 2024 10r80 with the update. I guess you might be right.
The new transmissions probably have the upgraded CDF drum but they will not have upgraded steels and clutches as well as extra steels and clutches in the high risk drums of the transmission. You are basically paying to upgrade so the transmission can handle more power for a longer period of time.
@berni303 if you burn up your stock trans you can have it built with the updates and extra clutches and steels.
@@BackroadDriver thanks for the response!
You definitely appreciate your equipment and take good care of them😂
GUESS NOT!!!!!!! FORGETABOUTIT!!!!
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The 10r80 is a piece of garbage from the factory. Blew mine this year at 59,500 miles, stock. Month later it was replaced. A month after that it blew the oil pan gasket and spewed all my atf fluid, had to be towed after it left me stranded in one of the worst parts of St. Louis. New trans is sloppy just like the last one.
How did it blow was you driving hard what Year is your truck I have a 2021 XLT 302a coyote 48000 miles curious great highway driver
@@KeithWilliams-uw9ym first 25k miles i drove it normal. After multiple dealer visits and pathetic patch fixes as i call them (resetting of the computer to relearn driving habits) i was left with the same problems over and over. I got ignorant with my service manager and he literally told me the only way ford will fix it is if i blew it up so thats what i did. I drove it into the ground, stop light to stop light, highway pulls, brake torques. It finally started slipping and was slamming gears even harder. They tried replacing the valve body first which led them having my truck stuck in gear. They dismantled my 10r80 and said multiple clutch packs were burnt, bushings destroyed and main input shaft was chewed up where a bushing was sliding instead of remaining in place. It got replaced with a brand new 10r80. It still suffers from the original shifting issues. On the highway the transmission is fine, its when you make sudden stops or cruise the hills when it gets completely lost and im not happy with it. Its a 2018 with the 5.0L. Friends with multiple other brands dont experience this nonsense. I left the GM world after questionable quality issues, seems Ford isnt any better. Whats truly sad is gm uses a different tune on its 10l80 and suffers far less issues. Ford on the other hand has to keep paying lawyers off to keep them out of a multi-billion dollar recall
@@07slowbalt what truck lasts anymore
Is this PSA or self promotional ? hardly any questions answered!