What if Red Dead Redemption 3 Happened?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 มี.ค. 2022
- This is the story of Red Dead Redemption 3. This video explains the history of Red Dead Redemption and how it could become another prequel to Red Dead Redemption 2. It shows footage from rdr2 and depicts it in a way to explain the storyline. This video also ties in some of my opinions on what it should be. But everyone else is free to tell their own opinions in the comments.
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This video is solely my opinion. Everyone else should have their own opinions so feel free to share them in the comments! This script took me over a year to write, the actual video took me a month to make. I had to gather all of this footage and trust me, it wasn't easy... So I thank you all for any support!
Edit 4/4/22: Mistake 1 - That Cornwall bit was 100% a mistake. I should have done more research there’s no excuse for that so I am sorry. I just thought it would’ve been cool if the van der linde gang had history with robbing his businesses and Cornwall secretly knew? But that’s not right it’s wrong. Then I thought it would’ve been cool if Cornwall was the villain against Hosea and maybe they both have history? Or maybe not. I just thought it would’ve been cool, but I forgot that Cornwall went after them because of the train, so that’s 100% my fault. Idk for some reason I thought that the Pinkertons worked for Cornwall I’m so stupid 🤦♂️Guys just ignore anything I said about Cornwall that was a mistake and I am sorry because now it makes the whole entire video look bad.
Edit 4/5/22: Mistake 2 - Sometimes I think this video is poorly written because Rdr2 is amazingly written. The story gets deeper than you think. Dutch used the members to fill his ego and get only what he wants, so why would you want to play as that? He is an antagonist, narcissistic sociopath. And only used Arthur, Hosea, and the rest of the gang to get his wants. He doesn’t care about Arthur he doesn’t care about Hosea he doesn’t care about John and the proof is there because not only he left grimshaw but he also left Arthur and John to die when they were at their weakest level. So MEANING that Dutch was never a good person he was always like this even before the events of rdr2. And maybe Micah didn’t manipulate Dutch before everything, maybe Dutch knew the entire time and only let him manipulate him to make an excuse to get what he wants! I didn’t really think about that level of writing during the making of the script.
Edit 4/6/22: Mistake 3 - I come to realize that I still stand by my own take on Dutch. I know I kinda painted him as a good guy in this video, but I still think that he cares about Arthur. I’m not gonna sit here and say he was always like this, he wasn’t. At one point I do believe he was good and didn’t use Arthur and the rest of his gang for his own fame. I guess you can say that about him in the second game, but Dutch is.. a very interesting antagonist. Of course he is pure evil in rdr1 but I have a feeling that he was a good person I mean he did save Arthur and John and raised both of them I do see that as good because he basically adopted them. I wouldn’t see that as manipulative or trying to use people because his connection to Arthur and John is very deep and the dude just went crazy in the second game becoming more and more evil overtime. I think they should add a lot to the storyline of Dutch and showcase what else of more major plots that drove him to the land of insanity. That’s just my take on it. I also wanted to point out another mistake I made during the making of this video. I state that Bessie died due to something that was unknown in the evidence of the history. This is false, Hosea in fact confirms that Bessie passed away due to pneumonia. I didn’t see that in the Red Dead Wiki at the time but it’s the truth. So yes, Bessie does in fact die from pneumonia so my bad.
Edit 4/7/22: Mistake 4 - You all may be wondering why I make a big deal about Mr. Gillis selling the Brooch? Yes it’s practically useless because Arthur gets it back anyway but I think it’s much more than that. You see, It's not about Arthur getting it back, it's about the intention behind Mr. Gillis's mind. it shows how he doesn't care about his family anymore and it's the little things, like selling her mom's brooch, that counts into my argument. It shows that he will easily pass on the most valuable thing to his daughter and deceased wife away just for a quick buck. That's the reason why I state that it's "worse". Another mistake I wanted to point out was the scene where the gang is running from the blackwater massacre. That scene obviously doesn’t make sense. The reason why it doesn’t make sense is because the scene was rushed. Yes, rushed. That’s why you see Sean there lol. Yes I know Sean was captured. That specific scene was the last footage I got so it was towards the end. I had to fill in the part of me explaining what the infamous massacre was so that whole scene was honestly rushed and I was getting tired because my deadline was March. So I completely apologize for that mistake that specific scene was in fact rushed.
Edit 4/8/22: Mistake 5 - There’s a theory that Arthur met Eliza before he met Mary. I believe this to be false. I assume that him and Mary were teenagers and grew up together in their relationship. Apparently, Arthur met Eliza when she was 19. I would assume that Arthur was in his 20s. I’m sure that Arthur raised Isaac for 10 years. I wouldn’t say that Arthur met Mary after he lost his son? I’m positive that him and Mary were together before him and Eliza were. But again, there’s no proof of that claim anyway so both views are in your own style. I feel as if Arthur became a good man in the second game because of trauma. I’m not just gonna say Arthur became a good man because he got tuberculosis, nonono. I believe there’s way more to that. Sure he comes off as mean at the start, but wasn’t really in his right mind to begin with. He had to learn the hard way, and it forced him to become a good man. Even tho he was a killer lol. The trauma damaged the entire form of his character and shaped him into a caring being. Now you can obviously change this by going into low honor mode, but I feel as if it’s the way you perceive it. The death of his wife and his son could either make him into a high honor man or a low honor man. You decide…
Edit 1/25/23: Thank you all so much for ONE MiLLiON ViEWS!!! I am so grateful for all of you watching my video from the bottom of my heart THANK YOU!!! 🙏
I disagree with you so much
Red dead redemption 3 should be a sequel to red dead redemption set in about 1916 and you play as Charles, Sadie, or Jack.
There is no point going back because we already know what happens
@@notnow8010 I stated that they should add a lot more to the storyline of what we already know. Just like they did with rdr2 for rdr1. But this time it'll be even more expansive and making not only the story but also the game longer to experience.
@@notnow8010 sadie
A trilogy going backward in time has never been done. Would be glorious.
THATS WHAT IM SAYING rdr3 could just be from creating the crew or early years and ends at Blackwater where rdr2 starts
dollars trilogy did
@@Dizzy-ql7zw Ehh not really
Fear street
Star wars prequel trilogy
If RDR 3 was a another prequel then that wouldn’t bother me since there’s was a LOT of lore to explore in it (in this video obviously) along with adding Landon Ricketts since a lot fans (me included) would like to see him in his prime and focus on his storyline. And maybe in RDR4 we could play as Jack again tracking down Sadie and Charles to write the book Red Dead thats in Franklin's house years later.
It would have to be another prequel to be in the outlaw era. They should of gone back farther with part 2
The whole gunslingers of the west lore would be amazing dude
Unfortunately the VA for Landon passed a few years ago.
So we won't be seeing him again... Unless Rockstar reuses voice lines
I would love to see a small dlc where you get to play in the whole mess that happened in blackwater
@@Mewtwo_150 wow. In rdr1 a newspaper says Landon ricketts passed away aswell
The story of Jack is in the big picture a sad story, but killing Ross was immensely satisfying. Also it's not like he became a ruthless murderer and killed an innocent woman in cold blood like Dutch. He avenged his father. And it was done in an honorable duel, he didn't shoot him in the back. To my mind Jack knew that his parents didn't want him to seek revenge which is why he waited until Abigail died to pursue his vengence, but he also could not let the injustice done to him and his family go unanswered for. It was something that needed resolving before he could move on with his life.
I remember hearing a campfire dialogue, maybe at Shady Belle in RDR2 (at some less troubled point of Chapter 4). It was between Jack and Abigail:
Jack: "When I'll grow up, I'll be a gunslinger!"
Abigail: "Over my dead body! You'll become a lawyer. You will do the hanging, not the swinging!"
My quotes might be a bit off, but it was definitely about this topic. The epilogue of RDR1 began in 1914, after Jack has buried Abigail. Only then did he start coming for Ross.
Also, they can even make a story that Jack was trained by Sadie/Charles after John died.
@@nickdentoom1173 charles moved to canada, it would most likely be sadie
To be honest I like to imagine after jack kills ross he just IMMEDIATELY puts down his revolver and retires as a gun man on the spot basically, he knows that they never wanted him to end up like them and as such basically just kills Ross in a duel, and immediately goes home to live the rest of his days in peace
i honestly think that Jack committed suicide after killing Ross
nothing here to be true, just my theory
I think mac callender would be the best protagonist for rdr3 as he was a tough man and at the end gave arthur his horse and his coat.
I agree. I think it should be about Mac and Davey Callender. And ends by him dying in the black water massacre
I was just thinking so, and the game should end at blackwater..
He works the best In my opinion since we don't know what he looks like or a lot about him. The way he's described is morally questionable same as Arthur. While we know Davey was more bad then good.
i always thought that
That would be cool but I think the rockstar should do a prequel story of a young uncle in the prime Wild West where we actually play through the stories he told at camp would be interesting and they would be able to explain what happen yo uncle that he became lazy in old age
I hate the fact that I can't experience this masterpiece again for the first time...
you can forget it atleast
Rip my friend
...ill be 33 at that time
@@mindhalf135 nah i havent seen a vid or anything about the game in 4 years and recently i started playing the story again and all i remembered was the tb and that he died
@@lilgueon3794 I forgot most of what happened in RD1, so i can replay that.
Nah I've replayed it a few times and honestly only open world game i constantly play in for hours and don't get bored GTA 5 has reached this point where I hope on try to get 5 stars escape in a plane crash said plane get bored new game red dead just feels so alive
I love this idea, to good to be ever realised by rockstar.
These GTA type role play footage kills me though, young Arthur was wild💀
Not really, remember what masterpieces Rockstar made
@@MRMOON-jk1cs it's all gta now
@@Santiago-sh3cq that’s still Rockstar lmao. This idea can deffo happen.
the wildest thing is Sean's hair
Don’t doubt rockstar they could totally bring something HUGE to the table and really deliver
This concept is brilliant. At first I wasn’t onboard with another prequel, but man a reverse trilogy actually sounds sick.
Then replay rdr2 right after
The only issue I have is that Hosea is 11-12 years older than Dutch and would probably be a father figure to both Arthur and Dutch. You can see that both of them feeling like they lost their father in Saint Denis. I think it'd be a better story if you start with Hosea being the leader of the 3 then slowly leaning towards Dutch starting the gang as the other members slowly come in with John and Arthur having a small rivalry. I will say that it would be nice(if not the better story imo) to see how Jack turned out after the events of RDR and the dying off of gunslingers and going into a more evolving world with WW1 and things of that nature. You could bring in Charles and Sadie since they might still be alive. And this could also be him going after all the men that killed his father outside of Ross and discovering that his dad was actually a good man (like the way they had John talk to other strangers with them talking about Arthur) just like Arthur was (depending on how you played).
Hosea and Dutch do not have a father son relationship, their entire dynamic is being best friends. Arthur sees Hosea and Dutch as his fathers, Hosea even said during a mission once “the curious couple and their unruly son”. Hosea wouldn’t say that if he was a father figure to Dutch. Also Dutch was the leader of the gang, since the beginning. Hosea was more a conman, and the second in command. Also John and Arthur never had a rivalry, there was a ten year age gap between them, they were like brothers. Any “rivalry” they had was most likely just brotherly banter.
Also it’s unlikely that Jack would go after anyone else, since Ross was the main guy that took down John, which is why Jack went after him first. Seeing Charles and Sadie would be cool though.
@@NaraNom None of this is even close to what I said. I said that if they were to make another prequel that this would be a cool dynamic to have, not that this is actually factual.
"I think it'd be a better story if you start with Hosea being the leader of the 3 then slowly leaning towards Dutch starting the gang as the other members slowly come in with John and Arthur having a small rivalry."
"The only issue I have is that Hosea is 11-12 years older than Dutch and would probably be a father figure to both Arthur and Dutch." Meaning at that age they would probably see him as one.
With Jack, again, I stated that this would be a good story to continue down that path instead of another prequel.
Isn’t Arthur 10 years older then John, for a little
@@jkmoop2 Don't be prissy, he is right, corrected your wrong reading, and rightly stated why it's a ludicrous idea the one of a sequel with Jack. Aldo, another story with the decline of the Old West... Wow, that's new, we didn't experience that exact theme twice exactly.
@@boybillythebutcher4575 wasn't being "prissy", just stated what was actually said. Instead of trying to be some sort of tag along, why not actually add to the conversation? He also didn't state that a sequel with jack was "ludicrous", but stated why he think it wouldn't be good in HIS EYES. I don't see why you're butt hurt over ideas that people have for more games that might come out. Relax.
There’s a lot more to Arthur’s story alone we don’t know about. I thought it was interesting that of the vanderlinde gang Arthur had the biggest bounty on his head. Arthur also seems to be viewed by many in the gang as the most skilled gun judging by voice dialogs.
Dutch had the biggest bounty. Did you forget the moment when Ross and the other guy Milton or something(I forgot his name) offered Arthur freedom for turning in Dutch?
@@siddhant6493 but His wanted poster says $1000 wanted dead or alive for robbery and murder.
@@habibisalim2070 that’s an older poster from before the blackwater heist, I believe it grew to $10,000 afterwards
I would like to see the same formula used where we play as a new character and then switch to Arthur, a way to continue the idea of 'passing the torch'.
his last family, the blackwater incident that started the gangs downfall, dutchs backstory and how he formed the gang, how he got such a massive bounty
so much potential
Personally, I think sticking to one character would be better as it creates a stronger bond (the player and Arthur), but exploring how the gang started and developed would be a great way to approach RDR3. Well done on your video, so much effort was put into it!
I see you’re more on the Mac Callander side? Thank you so much! 🙏
I feel like if Dutch becomes the main character, it’ll be the last rdr game. Only because both 1 and 2 Dutch is always an antagonist if that makes sense? It just seems like a final ending type thing
But honestly I really want a RDR remake.
@@goatedblondegirl I think Hosea would be the best as a main character, that way we would get an excuse to explore the existing part of the map. (Assuming we do get it)
I’m in the minority or may be the only one but I so badly want a RDR but instead of redemption, it should be Red Dead Damnation or something and it’s jack becoming an outlaw while the surviving characters from the previous games track him down to convince him to stop him and change his mind.
@@JanAly no offense but that’s such a horrible story to go off of, Charles, and Sadie probably wouldn’t know, which are the only ones besides for maybe Tilly who would care, and Tilly has a family now, she doesn’t want to concern herself with an outlaw now? And also the Wild West is basically almost dead at this point, there is no way the story would be as great as going the prequel route
if this were to ever happen, i would pay soo much money to have my memory of read dead redemption wiped and start in chronological order. now that would be insane
I would definitely like RDR3 to be a prequel focusing on the era of outlaws at its peak with a brand new protagonist who occasionally runs with the Van der Linde gang.
why not a story based on Landon Ricketts?
he is a famous gunslinger in RDR universe.
plus Rockstar introduced plenty of other interesting gangs that are mentioned in the story.
the Jack Hall gang for example.
or Otis Miller and his gang.
and not to mention the former outlaws like Boy Colloway, Emmet Granger, Flaco Hernandez, etc.
@@LevisH21Landon Rickets wasn’t a criminal and the whole point of the gunslingers quest line was that there was no gunslingers
@@LevisH21it would have it be a spin off though, when they title something RDR3 we think of the van der Linde gang or jack Marston not some random completely foreign gang to us that would pretty much have nothing to do with The RDR franchise
@@bluscout1857 I think your forgetting rdr in general is about the death of the wild more than the van der lin gang
I love how for the young Arthur, you literally just made him smaller, like he still looks like an adult but just comically small, like I saw a video of someone using mods to play as Jack Marston, and at one point used the mod to make Jack adult sized but still using the kid model
Lol
I have a hard time seeing Arthur as a kid him being a little man makes more sense
@@jizzyjake6783 imagine Arthur being born as a full blown man but tiny and with a revolver
A prequel to a prequel? That’s like the ultimate prequel!
It’s a pre prequel
A trequel?
Prequelquel
But at the same time a sequel to a prequel
Prequelception
After my playthrough of RD2.. This was almost EXACTLY my thoughts on how RD3 should play out. Rockstar would be dumb to not have this storyline. And I think it would make one of the best game trilogies in gaming history, and take the goat for storytelling. I really want to know what happened with blackwater... I would love playing that out. Awesome video. My thoughts on this are in line with yours.
The way you explaining the story is really interesting but the way this video goes is really hilarious
I get that every character has an interesting backstory and I would love to know more about them, but the game still needs to have a main convincing, appealing story/journey. Without it, I feel the game will easily become an action-packed game with epic set peices but no real deep message behind. Like in rdr2, we get to know the journey that the Van der Linde gang went through together, the stories of rdr characters in their younger day. But on top of that, we witness the amazing redemption arc of a completely new character and it definitely is the winning point of the game. With Arthur Morgan, Rockstar set a really high bar for themselves to meet and beat.
Exactly, which is why I feel that they should make an entire new set of characters. They may be connected to some of the characters of the first 2 games, but they shouldnt be the same ones for the reasons you said. With RDR1, there is a lot of stuff we dont know about the gang. We dont know much of anything. RDR2 really tells us everything we wanted to learn about the gang and backstory, filling all the gaps and being an even better story than RDR1. But another game with the same gang would be pointless.
It should also be set in the golden age of the wild west, like 1870s. New map as well, but I think that they should add parts of the rdr2 map as DLC/mission only maps. I was surprised at how much bigger RDR1's map felt than RDR2's. Maybe because travelling just felt slower, but it showed me that you don't need a huge map to accomplish the same feeling. I think a complete fresh start would be the best option for Rockstar, even though most fans are saying that they want an RDR3 which would be the beginning of the Van der Linde gang. People just dont know what they want sometimes.
@@Siduch. you’re dead on. All of the locations have some connection to but were more Midwest and the south. Next one you could connect all of it and go to the early days of San Andreas(California)and then the Arizona/Colorado/Nevada landscapes.
@@Siduch. yes, but it also talks about two other members of the game a little in the beginning of red dead redemption 2 Jenny Kirk, and Davey Callender after the black water mission. Also stating that Davey’s (brother I guess) Mac Callender was arrested by the Pinkertons. I think a story using them would be great, giving rockstar a new slate to build on while also giving a little insite about earlier stages of the gang
I like the idea of jack being in 3 bc by the time he got older he would be in mafia times no more cow boys throw sum in there like tha type shi it would be amazing fr no matter wha they do if they do anything it’s gonna be lit
RDR3 makes sense for the beginnings of Van der Linde gang. if we want new set of characters i do think its better it to have a new game rather than going after a diff story/characters.
I like the idea of playing as Mac but making his death as devastating and impactful as Arthur's or even John's would be a major challenge. Perhaps he sacrifices himself to let the rest of the gang get away and has a tender brotherly moment with a badly wounded Davey before making his final stand against the Pinkertons in a nod to both games where both death's involved a sacrifice to attempt to save others. Maybe this would give a bit more emotional depth to Davey's death as despite Mac's sacrifice it still was not enough to save Davey. This ties in perfectly with the theme of Arthur's death not being enough to save John in the long run and John's death not being enough to save Jack from the outlaw life.
I also had an idea of playing as Mac but Mac didn’t sacrifice himself and they already explained what happened to him. The pinkertons picked him up shortly after the blackwater ferry job and he was already wounded so his death was easy
@@dunder1231 But that was the widely held theory not fact. Perhaps the Pinkertons lied and he made a last stand where he died differently to what was described and he took out a few of them before they shot him down. It could show a very different version of events to what the gang were led to believe/told and a lot more heroic and tragic. Also Hosea and Arthur had no involvement in the ferry job so maybe Dutch propagates a different version of events. I mean he was prepared to abandon Arthur and John even if it meant their deaths. What's to say he wouldn't do the same with Mac? It can be done as long as the alternative makes sense and fits in with the cannon.
Actually jack became a writer so John did save him
Don't worry Davey will appear in RDR 3. A great Rifleman, that he can help Dutch Van Der Linde until the end.
So basically you want RDR3 to make millions of people cry again? Lol
Great idea and video. Ty for taking the time to make it visual. Would not have had the same effect without it.
Imagine u get to play as dutch before the blackwater incident and u travel across the land with ur gang were robberies weren’t rare and would be cool to see how the gang fell apart before because something definitely happened before with micah and dutch
Man you put a lot of effort into this, I appreciate the passion RDR fans still have. We just can't let go of the Van Der Linde family, that sense of anarchist tribe that lives free nomadically speaks to a lot of people especially today in such dystopian times. I want to see Dutch's softer side to Annabelle, her death 100% affected him like crazy for him to have this much hate for Colm. Also 100% agree Mac Callander being important, I think they can have him play an emotional role where he uncovers a conspiracy finding out that Micha was a rat long before anyone else and martying himself for the gang.
I think it would have to be some other thing Mac uncovers, since Micah became a rat after Guarma to my knowledge.
but the voice actor of landon rickets has dies
Any RDR fan that's been one for a decade should know the possibilities n potential are endless
The thing is with the van der lan young gang thing is we know colm and Leviticus Cornwall don’t die while we didn’t know Micah dies in the 2nd and Arthur and that goes with rdr1 to
I really hope this happens. In my opinion it’s the best option for the next Red Dead and it would give Red Dead Redemption a proper trilogy
10 to 15 years😭0:54
They announced red dead 3 2 months ago
@@alboisedepontoise6283 where
I doubt the MC would be hosea. Both games ended with the MC dying and we’re able to flesh their character out throughout the entire game. Hosea obviously won’t die at the end and we already know so much about him. I think a Charles centered game would be awesome, but still more likely to get one of the Calendar brothers, probably Mac since we see Davey die in the beginning of RDR2. Definitely expect a prequel though so we can finally see the ferry heist go wrong, and since it’s been repeatedly mentioned in both games already it would be the perfect climax to end the franchise on.
It's already a trilogy. The first was RD Revolver.
Landon Rickets needs to be in rdr3. He clearly has a role in the lore, and was involved in the blackwater massacre. It would be cool if Red Harlow was shown too (Along with the mystery man from rdr1). The possibilities are endless.
Yes uncleeee
@@MLGProMaster-tu9tz Uncle ain't Red Harlow, since Uncle lacks the face scars.
I seriously can't believe I never considered the third game being a prequel to the others. It's the best idea for this series I've heard and would be positively insane for the devs to pull off. Plus, I feel like it'd fit so well with the former games' themes of roots and fates and how they define (or do not) define us.
God, I love the idea so much. Plus, I love these characters, and I'd be lying if I said I didn't want to see them some more. It might be more difficult to make a compelling narrative when Dutch is more of a manipulator but not yet an 'enemy' the way he is in the current games, as I feel like for these games the idea of a more cut and dry bad guy would be a bit of a letdown -- I think a core piece of these games is their examination of what makes us good or bad and how blurred those lines can become. It'd be difficult to find a way to provide a compelling broad conflict without simply repeating the same beats we've seen before. But I definitely think it could be doable and if pulled off well would be incredibly satisfying for a series of stories like these. Definitely what I'm hoping to see, now, because it'd be a beautiful way to get across the series messages before moving beyond the trilogy.
For me, the perfect ending for a RDR2 prequel would be with the birth of Jack. I like the idea of the three generations of RDR protagonists in one final and heartwarming scene.
I like the direction you took with your first concept, but I think this game wouldn't need Micah to appear in it, the game would show the gang at it's peak, and for me, Micah represents the gang's downfall.
Edit: The thing I like the most about the Blackwater incident, is that there are multiple versions of the story and we never know what actually happened there, so I wouldn't like to see it in game. But I must admit, it would be an sick ass mission.
Something Arthur wasn’t involved in so I highly doubt they’ll make a mission that doesn’t involve one of the main characters and in this case 1 of the 3 characters you can play as.
Edit: your going against yourself saying you want the blackwater mission but Micah not in the story, he was there during the blackwater incident while Arthur wasn’t so you have to 1. The mission where you play as Dutch and have Micah and that there with you and no Arthur or 2. Go against how they already written the story and get rid of Micah and have Arthur there in the black water incident which is horrible story writing which is probably the second best thing about red dead
the blackwater robberty would be good too
@@mateovanpraet78 we already know how it went off we dont need a whole game for it
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But one downside of this is we know what is gonna happen
Red dead 3 should definitely be another prequel. I think it's really interesting to tell the story backwards, see things that were hinted at initially.
And, the consistent graphical upgrades can even be seen as thematic, with each chronological progression producing a less shiny outlook on Rapscallions.
RD3 (if a prequel) The prime of the bandit/outlaw scene. The land is beautiful and plentiful, robberies are simple, and life is good.
RD2: Exiting the prime of bandits and outlaws getting off so easy as civilization encroaches at every turn. Robberies go wrong, feuds abound, but the outlaw spirit is still alive if marred.
RD1: Bandits have no place in this land of civility, even former-bandits turned honest working men. Their time is passed.
THIS could be the best game in the making if made right
At 2 games I'm kinda tired of the "death of the wild west" era. I'd love to see a game set during the prime of the Wild West.
@@SquadPoop That's precisely what I mean. Have Red Dead 3 take place before the Blackwater Heist, where the only conflicts are those of the gang and other gangs. A couple run ins with Pinkertons, but mostly gang warfare.
Maybe showcase Dutch and Colm's falling out, get to see some of the members that didn't make it in the beginning of red dead 2.
You should play as another Different character. Unamed as of yet
@@SquadPoop I feel like they should use a whole different set of characters like read dead revolver having completely different characters from read dead redemption
This is what I've thought should happen for rdr3. Nice to see someone with a nearly identical idea😊
your video is awesome! i would love to see a full story of rdr on this channel
Remember that Dutch didn’t know who Cornwall was until the train Roberry(Hosea tells him that Cornwall is not the man to be mess with. Arthur also didn’t know Milton nor Ross as he forgets their names(a fisher of man). So if Milton and Hosea had a backstory- Arthur and duch would have to be absolutely clueless and i don’t think that would be possible. It was still a great video tho.:)
Yeah I messed up the part about Cornwall. My bad. Just ignore everything I said about him please it’s literally embarrassing!! 😭
@@JokerSaintsRow it doesn't matter because the rest of the video is a masterpiece. 👍
Would be nice to play as a young Hosea. We could deal with more of Dutch and Colm O'Driscoll's history. There is a TON of content that could be explored. How the gang formed, rather than how it fell apart or how they all died.
I don't want another van der linde gang game. I want another game like red dead revolver
@@dogwaterclub2691 nobody gives a shit what u want friend
@@promadness1013 lmao
It'd be interesting to see how they did that since Hosea was fairly against killing until only a few years before the start of the game
@@dogwaterclub2691 nobody gives a shit what u want friend
This was really well done can tell you put time and effort in awesome !!!!!!
Well done. Great ideas. Hope it happens
I’d for sure love that, I’d love to see The big 3 in their younger days, as well as see what happened in the black water massacre.
I think in order for the game to be playable after the main story is complete they couldn’t show what actually happened. I think they’d leave it with them planning the blackwater massacre, and then Rdr2 starts and they ask what went wrong…
I say get away from the gang and start as a whole new character. Prime Wild West Mexico.
It would be cool if that's where it ended. Them planning out the boat heist and maybe seeing what happened. If not red dead redemption 2 dlc of black water massacre.
id love to see the gang in his glory days when Aurthurs Father was still alive and we played as him, that woyld be beautiful.
I love this. Although I think it is specifically mentioned that Leviticus Cornwall was only interested in the end of the gang after they robbed his train right in the beginning of RDR2. Since it is heavily implied both parties didn't even know of each other before that event.
“Who the hell is Leviticus Cornwall?”- Arthur morgan
Also, if you guys, if you sing would be the villain of red dead redemption three already dies in red dead redemption two😂
In the valentine saloon cornwall said “you don’t know me.”
I think just having Dutch as the main character would be perfect as it then makes the story of Red Dead about passing the torch and cycle of criminality onto the next generation.
You play as Dutch and then Arthur at the end, which segways into the beginning of Red Dead 2.
No it wouldn’t the reason why story’s are so good including Arthur and Johns is because the anticipation of what will happen next just knowing how Dutch ends would make it useless a fun concept but a useless story we need it as Jack and before you say you can’t make a western game modern I mean 1911 isn’t exactly western either
You’ve done ALL of the work, so hopefully we don’t have to wait the estimated 10-15 years for them to make this happen.
This is EXACTLY what I think the game should be. Including tacking on the Sadie event that led to her meeting the gang and the Blackwater debacle, leading up to RDR2.
Great work, this was well done. RDR2 is the best game ever created! IMO
in my opinion, the story should be more focused around the prime of the gang, and the switchable characters would be Mac Callander, Davey Callander, and Arthur. The story should take off in some type of bar fight including Mac, Davey, and Arthur, switching between each of them in the brawl. The story should end off right as RDR2 starts, or maybe a little before. With one of the final missions being the Blackwater ferry heist.
I was thinking the same thing, I was like maybe Mac and Davey Callender would be one the next protagonist
For me i would like to focus on one character I don't like the way we could switch to another character like in GTA V
That we have 3 character For me RDR2 story is far better than GTA V because i had more time with my character i play GTA V for fun and I don't have much emotion on this game on my first play through i only regret that i kill trevor so i decide to play again but GTA V still could not stand a chance compare to RDR2 for me
@@Uncle1899 oh yea for sure, I was trying to say one of those two
@@Uncle1899 same i think the 3 character worked for gta but red dead just seems a much more personal game with the horse bonding etc. it would suck having to use all kinds of dif horses etc for dif characters.
But you cant find a connection to Mac. It would be great to just focus on Hosea .
I’d definitely like to see a 3rd game as you propose, however, until they get that done, I want a remaster of the first one with maybe an addition prologue section that covers how John gets picked up and separated from Abigail and Jack. As far as following someone besides any of the main group, I could see versions of RDR following Landon Ricketts, Sadie or Charles. Lots of possibilities!
nah it qould be better to end the storyline with the 3 games and do a trilogy remaster like for the nathan drake collection
Dutchs early days where he was clearly charismatic n talented enough to entice the likes of John n Arthur to join him makes me think Dutch had the potential to be the greatest cowboy of his day, Landon Ricketts is another good choice n tbh, I think Jack Marstons journey could be dope aswell, he'd be around the prohibition era I think n the beginning of the italian/sicilian migrants coming over that would lead on to become the mafia so wouldnt be a bad era at all I think, Jack n Dutch are the best picks though I think as in both cases it goes full cycle, in Dutchs case we would get to play his prime years when the West was truly at its wildest up until the Blackwater massacre n Jacks journey would kinda end the gangs journey as he was there in the beginning n then the end and also the end of the Wild West in general
A Red Dead Redemption 3 with Sadie would be hella interesting. In the end of RDR2's story, she fled to South America, possibly Brazil as it was mentioned several times during the game, and Brazil in the early 1900s was in general pretty much what the Wild West was in the 1880s to 1890s, the landscapes, the advance of civilization from east to west and northeast, it would be the Wild West trying to survive like in RDR2 but in the 20th century.
But still I think it would be great to end the storyline with a trilogy revolving the story of the characters we already know, just keep the flow RDR2 has created going
@@nface3673I think it’s better to have a remaster before 3 since the first is only officially accessible on Xbox and ps3
You've got my vote! Would love to see this kind of rdr 3! Well done!
Extremely well made
2:26 Shaun's hair loool and the miniature Arthur running around Blackwater was hilarious 😭😭😭😂😂😂😂
Definitely like the idea of Mac being the protagonist. I feel that being Dutch wouldn’t add much sauce to the story as we already have a full picture of his life, yet Mac we don’t know much about apart from him being one of the most violent members of the gang AND he dies during the blackwater heist, which would probably be the end of RDR3. He seems like a way better protagonist than Dutch. While I would love to play as Dutch as this game would be taking place during his prime, Mac seems to be the best shot.
I didnt even consider Mac, he's a great choice, the few times he's described he could easily be a protag due to the pure talent for violence that he has, he could easily be made into a protag n protrayed as the groups original main man in terms of fighting/getting things done before he ultimately passes away
What about davey? He died right after the blackwater massacre due to a lethal injury, they wouldn't have to make up an entirely new model for him (we don't even know how mac looks like), and the last moments we would have as him would be watching everyone praying him to stay alive, only to fade away. Personally, i'd say davey would be even better.
@@VivianaSilverback I'd prefer Mac. We wouldn't even get to see Davey die, because he dies in Rdr2. And Davey dying at the start of Rdr2 wouldn't make a good ending for Rdr3. Think about it he just dies in the snow and then the credits role. I'd rather have Mac.
@@VivianaSilverback And in Rdr2 the gang portrays Mac as a badass.
@@patrickdoherty3541 but the whole game is called red dead redemption and mac’s death didn’t sound redeeming at all
I love how you used that Kifflom dude for Hosea
0:00 lol the warning with the rdr2 wanted sound is hilarious
"...and being a completly bad kid on the streets"
*runs into people*
I’d love to play as a younger Hosea, he had a ton of hinting backstory in rdr2, you could have a rowdier, younger Arthur and Dutch be involved, see more of Arthur vs John feuding.
If Dutch wasn’t so irredeemable it’d be cool to play as him and be in charge of the gang and new characters.
the opportunity of expanding Arthur John and hosea’s stories would be so bittersweet.
First of all Dutch wasnt as rowdy inmthe beginning and also was very muchredeemable and in the end he wasnt wrong about the government. He told John they'll get rid of the old world and in the end there leaves you. They end up killing John in the mend same way He taught Arthur and John everything for a reason and in the end couldn't follow his own beliefs as well as he used to.
I would play this even if rockstar didn't publish it. It has a lot of potential and would definitely be a major hit
As good as im enjoying listening to your story , Also cant help chuckle on young Arthur just making havoc:)
This is exactly what I would expect for RDR3. Both 1&2 are masterpieces, so imagine a 3rd instalment to the Red Dead series. I wish that Rockstar would stop overhyping GTA online and focus on Red Dead!
The "UNCLE IS RED HARLOW NOW PROVE ME WRONG!!!" part was funny 😂
18:48 I love how he plays the house building song while talking about this.
18:05 hit me hard because of the music in the background R.I.P Arthur Morgan
I feel like the third one would most likely take place after the events of one. I wouldn’t want story about an adult jack Marston but it would be cool to see Sadie and Charles again. A prequel of 2 would be cool too because we could see Dutch watch as Lyle Morgan’s gang falls apart like Arthur watched Dutch’s gang fall apart in 2.
My idea for Rdr3 is that you play as Sadie and it takes place in between rdr1 and 2, and it's more focused on bounty hunting, because Sadie is a bounty hunter by the end of rdr2. And maybe it could take place in South America, because that's where she's says she wants to go by the end credits, or to keep the same area, and if they keep the same area, the focus of the game is getting enough money to travel down there.
@@Mickeyil222 That would be amazing
@@Echo-zj1lz that's not what I'm saying, you saw how ruthless she could be, and plus it's just a concept. but instead of being an outlaw, maybe being an bounty hunter, or both.
If they have will even make a new red dead game, it definitely wouldn’t be this universe, with the gang. It will probably a new universe with new characters and everything.
I don’t think that would work cuz by that time it was 1917 ish and the world was becoming modern. There really was no Wild West after the early 1900s
This was so good well done, and thank you for putting in the effort!
Thank you for watching it! 👌
@@JokerSaintsRow I love the effort you did to enact your hypothetical situations through in game models
Great video !!! Ive seen another theory video rdr3 possibly doing time period skips actually and including Landon ricketts ( his story ) and how there might be a possibility of him being involved at the black water massacre for anyone interested into that as well
This edit is so fire
I bet this was an awesome video and a great story but frankly when I saw tiny Arthur just bolting through the streets ramming ppl and sending them flying I pretty much lost it and couldn`t stop laughing throughout the whole clip missing everything that was said.
LMAO I am soo sorry I literally didn't know what to do with that scene, so I imagined it like that lol
@@JokerSaintsRow nah nah m8 trust u couldn’t have done a better job than this :D it be awesome to see (and even “awesomest” to play as) a whole play through of RDR 2 with that char model and to have Arthur only interact with the “antagonise” option. It would really add to the believability of him having anger issues XD
I don't know if Rockstar really gonna make rdr3 but if they would...
That's gonna be a real masterpiece
Umm u didn’t play rdr2 Abigail and a lot of other things weren’t brought up for no reason get some intuition
@@madlizard3417what?
@@jeffreysuanjay1088 I meant to say annabelle
Also showing how they saved john from the hanging and how they met abigail everything
A game that takes place in Mexico centered around Javier and how he met with the gang and what happened after Arthur’s death
This man knows what he's talking about. 'Specially the bit about Hosea and Milton having a personal history. And also the one about the story ending with Rdr1. Much as I feel Jack would be a great character to play, and holy crap he looks cool, the ending of rdr1 is the perfect ending to the series.
Oh yeah this dude was spot on!! I literally wanna play it now lol
5:34 i can't get over little arthur on the back of that horse 🤣
Nice trailer 👍 ill give u a like
Great video
Definitely appreciate all the work you put in man. For me, I'd actually like to have it be like some shows/movies where they time jump from current to past times. The forming of the gang around the timeline you cover and present times with Jack, who'd actually left the criminal life, being hunted by the feds and being helped to survive by Sadie and Charles with the whole thing sort of narrated by a fed breaking down the whole story which would also include the gap in time between the last camp in rdr2/Arthur's death and the epilogue that shows how surviving gang members went into their new lives.
Wow! Niceee 👌💯
Your first idea for the third game is so good! It would really tie the sack together and make us even more involved with the red dead series. Rockstar also need to show respect for what the players want, and mainly that is to play as Arthur, Hosea and Dutch.
i love how mini arthur just running around in the city like a midget on crack
I would love a prequel. Everything’s there. Who doesn’t love an origin story?
Only problem with prequels (or a good thing depending on what you want) is there is always another story to go down and also an ending known. We all knew John survived the end of rdr2, as well as Uncle, Abigail, and Jack, and most importantly Dutch. It could lead to some really interesting stories or some very predictable ones.
i don't understand why you would spoil your story at all. it was a big risk making a sequel and a story based game where you already know what is going to happen could have some realy dull moments. nothing would be at stake tbh playing as the character he highlighted. i want a fresh and new ending with maybe some of the old gang tied in, like a chapter or two
@@paperbackwriter19 honestly I would say jack is the move but I think the lesson at the end of rdr is that no one is redeemable because that isn’t a human thing. We all make mistakes and sometimes no matter the sacrifices we will make some that our parents did. Rdr2 and the original isn’t about a perfect ending. John is a perfect example of it. You think he deserves the best life after all he did to correct his wrong doings but in the end his past mistakes catch up with him. Same with Arthur ofc. Also the idea that doing multiple acts makes you a bad or good person is also not a human concept. Pure bad guys and pure good guys are a rarity in reality a lot of the time. John killed but he had a family so we see it as a sacrifice, same for Arthur. Yet they both are criminals and morally damaged people even if they learn more but never in full in the end. That is the message of the games and go continue would make it less impactful. Sorry didn’t mean for this to be so ranty lol. I just don’t know how they could capture another story that steals you in the same way.
@@Tails1 says who it doesn't have to be a perfect ending? i would consider rdr2's ending to be perfect as it ties up lose wneds. and with jack what story is there left to tell. sure we could go on about how the west was becoming more and more civilized but oh wait, we already had that in rdr2/
jack was just giving closure and showing the cycle of violence, as well as a free roam mode in rdr1. it would also be the 1920s, and that time period is alien to what would be considered the west.
It can still work out. Maybe have new characters who can possibly appear in a future game with Jack Martson, a way to bring it all around.
In my opinion Jack is more representative of the west itself. Everyone tried to tame it and in a way did, but in the end you cannot tame what is ultimately free. It’s
Rockstar should see this video quick as they can, this is a great idea👏
Great video, I want this game
It’d be pretty cool to see Dutch fully play the good guy in a red dead game. I know they’re outlaws but you know what I mean
Yeah, based off of a lot of the conversations Arthur has with some of the gang, him and Hosea talk about how he used to be a better man, the gang used to help people and Dutch wouldn’t kill just to kill. I assume he was a “good” man in the same way Arthur is in RDR2.
@@RoscoMontana21 just another “you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain”
Well if it ends with the Blackwater massacre it might end with Dutch's morality meter a couple notches to the left in the red.
Would love to see how good he was until the death of his lover by the O Driscoll gang. That might be the spark that starts Dutch's descent to madness.
He was kind of a good guy at the first. It’s like Sadie said towards the end, something along the lines of, “He’s not the same man that put that warm blanket over me when we first met.” (I don’t know the exact line so nobody jump on me over that)
I'd love this, especially exploring the brotherhood between John and Arthur. It was implied they were good friends growing up -- but after John left for a year when Abigail gave birth to Jack, Arthur arguably never saw him the same (until the latter part of RDR2).
EDIT: I'd also argue Jack's fate is up for debate. His goal was to hunt down Ross for killing his father, and while he did become a "killer" -- Jack managed to become the most principled of them all. I always liked to imagine he escaped to Mexico (since you already cross the border to kill Ross) and became a famous writer -- maybe finally being the family man John could never be to him (altough he tried). I know the games are only loosely connected, but in GTA5 you can see a book written by a J. Marston called "Red Dead". I like to imagine his fate turned out better than anyone before him.
I mean, the J. Marston doesn't even have to be Jack though. It can also be a Mary Beth pen name, in honor of John.
The 3 main protagonist idea was shocking in a good way
Underrated af❤
This is absolutely brilliant. I wish you were working on this in reality. I really hope you’re not far off of what may be in the works behind the scenes. Either way, thank you for providing such creativity to what could be. Much love!
What I find perfect about Mac Callander possibly being the main character of RDR3, we don't know what happens while he ran off.
Charles once told Arthur "Vicious pair of bastards and that's all they'll ever be", but what if he was wrong? What if Mac's redemption occurs during the time he escapes Blackwater? Sounds interesting.
Mac ... Jack
@@Gravelgratious What happened to Mac? Is he in jail? This line from Jack made me cry
That's What i think Is going to happen in another RDR: seeing Mac Callander as a playable protagonist! Why? It's perfect, we don't know his appearance, so we could style him with long hair and beard and so on. Same think goes so for the outfits and the horse
Well mac did give arthur his horse so he could escape from blackwater.
I would also love if mac actually survived and didn't die considering how ironic it would be
Bro the reason arthur didn't cough on micah is because at that time they didn't knowing coughing on somebody would grant them the same sickness 💀
This I have thought too. And it should end in Blackwater, with one big score remaining to set the gang free to go wherever they want. Also, would be great to have a super extended map, with the rest of Ambarino, Mexico even southern than Nuevo Paraíso, and maybe something north and west of New Austin.
I recently finished rdr2 and am now in the "devouring everything online" phase of it lol. This video was fantastic. I soooooooo want a 3rd game and id pay to play it exactly as you laid it out.
Due to the recent events with rockstar and GTA my hopes aren’t that high for the future of rockstar games but I hope the story oh the gang finishes
What events?
@@mcguffindoe192 gta +, rockstar abandoning rdo, expanded an enhanced and the trilogy definitive edition were all terrible
I always thought that if there was another prequel, you would play as Mac Callander and the story would show the events that led up to the blackwater heist and what his fate truly was. The Pinkertons said they shot him but it was never clear if they were being truthful or not
A decent video to start for another Red Dead Redemption playthrough.
This video is great and the person who made it is great at storytelling. I don’t know how this video doesn’t have more views and you don’t have more subscribers because it takes a certain amount of talent to make these types of videos
Thank you so much! That means a lot to me..
This sounds awesome! I'd also love to see the scene where Dutch meets Javier and how he got The Count, since RDR2 mentioned how only he's the only one who can ride him
Seans hair be looking 🔥
Arthur never got to hold onto love for more than a brief period in his life. His story is heartbreaking.
it would be awesome if as Dutch you can choose between multiple heists, camp locations and who you trust/dont trust and with every choice you completely change the way the story progresses while still sticking to the events that are talked about in rdr2
If red dead 3 does happen I wouldn’t mind the game ending with them walking into blackwater before the heist and the screen kinda pauses or goes black and you hear everything go down cause rockstars whole thing with the boat heist has been keeping it mysterious
@Confessions Of A Movie Freak no shit Sherlock that’s the point
I remember not finishing red drad q and 2 yet, (still playing both) And coming across this video at that time.
That could be interesting . Hadn't thought about them allowing you to play the 3 different characters . Figured they would pick a different character that die's at the end and you then switch to playing as Arthur in the epilogue like the other two games have you do.
This is exactly what I want done with RDR3 Good Points and overall good video for such a small channel
Thank you very much for watching it! 🤠😺
@@JokerSaintsRow u should have more fame man u have good content +1 sub to u
I want RDR3 to be about Uncle. Yes Uncle. He constantly alludes to having been a "strong man" back in his prime or a gunslinger of some renown. Now weather or not this is just the bragging of a drunk not to be taken seriously, or perhaps all we know is the broken remains of a once proud man would be fun to explore. Especially with the popular fan theory that Uncle is Red Harlow the protagonist from the original Red Dead Revolver. Imagine seeing further west of new Austin, old towns like Brimstone that most modern fans of the franchise probably don't even know exist. And piecing together even in only a spiritual sense the original IP with the eventual Reboot that Redemption was. Seeing just what he was up to before falling in with the Van Der Lin gang.
Edit: And to add to this instead of a literal death like in RdR and RdR 2, we'd see a figurative death. Of Red, if we use this line of thinking that Uncle is in fact Harlow, from a bounty hunter/ lawman into Uncle, someone who clearly has no respect for the workings of the world. This wouldn't be too hard since as the sun set over the wild west era, corruption spring up en mass, sheriff's basically extorting the towns they where supposed to protect, the U.S/ Indian conflicts, and the beginnings of the civil war. I imagine all that turmoil would turn a young hopeful man into someone much less enthusiastic to help a system that probably seemed to be doing much more harm then good out on the frontier.
I love your opinion! 👌
doesnt work has to be someone that dies.
Lumbago
I think RDR3 should be about Arthur’s father. It would follow him doing petty crimes leading up to him doing more and more crimes that are getting progressively bigger in scale. In between, he would meet Dutch and Hosea where eventually they come up with one huge heist. Dutch and Hosea would get away and young Arthur would see his father get caught and eventually hanged. Then, in the epilogue, Arthur would find Dutch and Hosea and join their gang. We could see the gang in its early days and play as Arthur. This would end in the gang doing the heist as written in Arthur’s tent in camp where they hand out the money that they made.
I really like the Mac Callander idea
This seems like a very logical and interesting decision to make another prequel, that's why Rockstar will do something else entirely xD
Another Prequel? How much of the story do u need to know? The game should finish here. Rockstar will ruin the red dead series if they add another game, gta 6 and the next bully should get made and released
@Jeffery Jeff a third game wont be a bad thing but another prequel for a third game would be terrible
@@LankyLanc03 well cry about it cuz us fans want more red dead games n GTA it's what sells and rockstar always makes amazing stories so RDR 3, GTA 6 will happen whether u like it or not but you'll still buy it sooo
@@theoutsiderjess4869 it won't be bad bruh cuz the old west is dead after 1911 they can't build nothing more out of that, they keep talking about the wide open west in RDR 2 that we never truly saw it
@@LankyLanc03 completley agreed, the next entry of Red Dead Series should be new characters and story, and possibley new title other than Redemption.
i think it could be badass to have another prequel with a young arthur and john just barely old enough to fight, and the epilogue section in that game shows what really happened at the ferry job
Lumbago- my favorite ending to any video I've watched