Why I Don't Trust Opera GX...
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Hello guys and gals, it's me Mutahar again! This time we a look at one of the most popular and controversial internet browsers advertised throughout your favourite TH-cam channels. Opera GX is a gaming browser that seems to provide gamers with an unparalleled experience into the world wide web and with it's wild marketing claims I wanted to sit down and deep dive into it and see if it's even worth downloading. Thanks for watching!
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Huh
@UTTPRichBitcoinmancreep
report the bot
14 hours ago?
you know what would be ironic? if he was sponsored by Opera GX on this video...
As a rule of thumb, I generally slowly stop using free/freemium products that somehow sponsor a shit ton of influencers, not for any grand or particular reason, just feels like something's wrong.
Also, a "gaming" anything just doesn't make sense, look at every "gaming" products, the mid-range or used professional grade equivalents are much much better options.
@steins1457 The only product I would be ok with the "gaming" tag would be gaming mice. I do like having extra buttons(also useful for regular things, especially with macros) and having higher dpi. That's about it though. I still use the plain old 90s mechanical keyboards and plain jane office chairs because of comfort, durability, and cost. The only problem with my keyboard is the ever coming end of the mini-din connectors on the computers and parts themselves.
In the last few years I basically migrated most of my things to open source alternatives, be it the OS, browser, music player, etc...
I have a dual boot setup where I just get into windows to play video games and everything else I do under Linux.
@@seaweeb2258and monitors!
@@steins1457 It's not gaming. It's gambling~
Microsoft Edge is NOT Open Source. The repository is only a license and readme file.
microsoft edge is probably the complete opposite with microsoft forcing windows to have it by default. What is the majority of people gonna do when they have a free web browser already installed? lots of free data marketed towards clueless people. probably worse than chrome
@@lukeluneven worse, they market it as “privacy friendly” to lure people back in. I miss the old Edge, it was simple and (surprisingly) light, and EdgeHTML was an interesting concept in a Gecko/Blink/Webkit triopoly.
Chrome and Edge are based on Chromium, the apparent Open Source err source
@@lukelun ... MS owns windows. What do you mean "forcing"?
it actually is semi-open source because its based on chrominum
1:20 skip sponsor
thank you
get the extension "sponserblock"
@@9k011 extensions don’t exist on mobile
They do with youtube revanced@@alex-q8-q9
@@alex-q8-q9 not my point, if ur on mobile good for you. for other people.
This video can seemingly be summarized by the age old adages "don't believe salesmen" and "If you're connected to the internet, you're vulnerable". The gamer branding is just a marketing approach that imo is pretty clever, because outside of huge nerds, you need something to distinguish your browser from Chrome and Edge even though they're all essentially the same browser.
Ok Opera employee, i'm not downloading it anyways
There is a bad bot problem here. If you see a bot, DON'T REPLY, REPORT.
TH-cam doesn't care about it since they don't lose money
this is a universal thing with youtube. I'm surprised what some of them are getting away with
@@williamdrum9899 TH-cam removes my comments constantly, I'm surprised those don't get removed
I don’t think reporting even works either, they spread from that too
Bots are a protected class on youtube, they can do things you and I can't. They can say things you can't, they can exist without ban, which you can't. TH-cam IS IN ON IT.
I don't trust computer, there's a lot of backdoor and vulnerability in the hardwares... And that's why I use only Stones🗿
Computers are made out of Stones 🗿
average linux user mindset
Finally, this guy's speaking the truth
@@Dexcalibur420funny stone move data 🗿
Way to real ooga booga
As a Firefox heavy user, a RAM limiter and better identification of CPU-hogging tabs is something I'd definitely like to see.
try the about:processes page (you can see a list of all available "about" pages at about:about)
Firefox has a process manager at about:processes and it's been there for a long time
@@Musikvidedo And if I ever felt the need for a process manager that completely sucks at fulfilling it's core purpose of attributing CPU usage to what is causing it 90% of the time, that's what I would use.
Man I love firefox
You just got told why this is at best snake oil and you still want it for your browser that turned out to be the most resource heavy, and likely is one of the worst in terms of feature support, lacking the monetary weight behind chromium. Ask yourself again if it's not just being a contrarian or betting on the underdog.
I'm a former Opera GX user, I switched to Brave 6 months ago and haven't miss Opera since
Brave > Chrome and Firefox is reserved for TOR. Left opera years ago because it was a stupid browser. Now I find out it's spyware straight from china.
@clementinesoup yes it does!
@clementinesoup yes
What about Firefox?
@clementinesoup yep it's built in and works better than chrome extensions did for me before I switched
I love how there was audio of music playing in the background at the start of the video. Just loud enough that it made me look out my window to see who was so happy to share their music while in their car outside my house.
Huh?
@@amejade He was tricked by the video's audio into thinking a car outside was playing loud music. You can do this by cutting everything but the bass out of a given audio track and maybe putting a slight delay on it, and other tricks such as mid-side processing to make it sound like it's coming from outside the speakers/ behind your head.
@@matturner6890 oh ok that makes sense, thank you
@@amejade
I never understood why we need a "gaming" browser anyways. Then again, cynical branding works if your marketing is good enough...
I like the throttling features when I had bad internet it made it easier to run youtube for music while I gamed online
Well I guess if you want a browser running in the background, for easy access and that doesn't use a ton of system resources. But I've never seen the point personally.
The same reason why we have "gaming" chair, to capitalize on people hobbies.
@@eternia-reginleifYep awful chairs that sell because of marketing
I like the GX corner aspect to get up to date info on games rather quickly, it's convenient.
In terms of the limiters, I think it's geared toward people with less-than-average specs, or people with games that aren't very optimized. There's going to be something that suffers, and the limiter effectively works as a more in-depth and customizable priority option.
I had a computer that would max out the cpu when using chrome, I was forced to use Opera and a limiter to even watch a video on youtube. it sucked. it's definitely for the cheaper computers to be able to run stuff without burning the house down
11:00 Those "gaming" filters give off the same vibe as the widgets you could download to turn your cursor into a flaming sword.
one widget "matrix thing" on new tab doesn't do anything, but eat up your ram
one widget "matrix thing" on new tab doesn't do anything, but eat up your ram
The flaming sword cursor is essential tbh
flaming sword cursor is radical yall are just haters
@@klinxium8627 Windows XP bling rule
My main complaint about modern Opera is that it stopped using its own Presto rendering engine and just decided to follow the crowd and switch to Chromium, and I'm a web dev who made my bones during the IE6 vs Firefox days right before the first version of Google Chrome dropped when IE-only HTML and CSS on websites was the norm and I sometimes had to fight to even get clients to consider _Safari_ users as well before the iPhone released.
IE-only code. Man, you unlocked some memories there, thanks. I'd make IE6 functional, but I recall adding disclaimers to the bottom of my sites that it "worked best in Firefox," lol.
This is also my main complaint with Opera GX, not because it uses Chromium in the first place, but because it does so in a poor manner. I've found that some websites have functions that simply don't work on my Opera GX but work just fine on any other browser including Google Chrome, so there are times where I end up having to use different browsers anyway which kind of sucks because I use Opera specifically as a less bloated alternative to Chrome.
@@GigaLigma You use operagx as a less bloated alternative to chrome? lol
I became an Opera user in 2002 and I stuck with the last presto version as long as I possibly could. Then I moved to Firefox, a browser I thought I would never end up using. Still with Firefox.
You claim to be a web Dev and don't know, that Chromium based browsers use the Blink engine? That's very... interesting 🤔!
I'm using Opera GX not bcs it's a "gamer browser" or bcs "it's safe"(nothing related to the internet is safe. not even VPNs.), I use it cus that's the only browser which doesn't lag my laptop and doesn't require a sht ton of memory to function...
Check Chromium. That has been better in RAM than any other browser I USE. Each person is going to be different with what hardware they are running and what custom extensions they may use.
Many keep saying "leave that, get this" and little by little we are finding out "this" is sketchy.
This is why I refuse to use Brave. Why would I support some crypto scam?
So true bestie
@UTTPRichBitcoinmanwtf is wrong with you
@@yami2828it’s a bot, don’t engage
@@yami2828 All the UTTP accounts are bots/trolls. It's become a real problem in the last few months.
Yeah, Opera was obtained by a Chinese company and near that time people left Opera and created the company Vivaldi which created the semi-open-source browser called Vivaldi.
doesn't matter, browser boasts about how much bloat it adds to a browser, who the fuck wants to download that shit
Is that browser good?
Opera as a whole was acquired, including the development teams. However, in 2022, the Chinese consortium sold its shares, and Opera has since committed to repurchasing American Depository Shares to re-establish its corporate autonomy. This indicates a move away from Chinese ownership, but the full implications for development and data privacy remain to be seen.
🤞🏼🤞🏼
currently reading this on vivaldi rn
What is semi-open-source lol
well ,the Switch does have a browser built in, youre just not allowed to use it.
the switch itself only opens it, if you conect to a hotspot requiring a login website and closes it as soon as it has internet.
you can activate it by messing with network settings as well but it has a time limit
Or anything that would open a browser in my experience. Such as your example, links in the eshop, or sometimes online games will link to an outside website.
0:02 - "ladies and germany" mutahar, 2024
I’m finally included.
@@randompersonh Same here wohooo lets go!
Der Schwarm erobert alles.
Lesgo
We don't have ladies in Germany. Just lads.
The first time I heard about Opera was in 2011 in middle school when we had ipod touches. Opera was the work around we found to access facebook, twitter, and messaging apps on the schools wifi since that was all restricted otherwise on the network
Ahh good times in middle school 😅
@@UC559 damn i'm still in middle entering high next year 😁😁
@@LEYTHLEGACYno one cares
@@Suatselwhy so hostile?
@@Suatsel What did my guy do 😭 😭
I use firefox and brave.
Youre going to get spied on no matter what, but being able to launch a browser and use it and have it not take 6.5 galactic years before it pops up as an unresponsive white screen is whats important to me until something comes out that actually works, quickly at that, and actually protects my privacy in a meaningful way.
life was simple when i used firefox
Firefox actually is probably one of the safest browsers on the internet. Using it with Ublock Origin and Sponsorblock probably makes it the safest, period. Firefox and UBlock help block tracking cookies and Firefox has a bunch more built in security than any other browser thanks to being not based on chromium.
Also Opera GX tracks your exact latitude and longitude regardless of tracking settings so.
Are you on a HDD by any chance? I've only had firefox do that to me when my system was still on a HDD.
If that is how your opera starts then I have bad news for you man, that's not an opera issue that's a your pc issue
Upgrade your pc then
I don't trust anything gaming-themed.
It's all just cheaply effective marketing.
Maybe besides "gaming" computer mice, cause the "non-gaming" ones are generally terrible, unless you spare like 120$ for one...
If randomly youtubers are pushing something to you. The product is 1000% low quality.
The only time I trust a TH-camr ad is when the TH-cam channel is in the same field as the product.
I had a gaming flavoured pepsi max a while ago. Are you saying this had no effect on my k/d? 😂
@@peterpop-off bro no soft drink is gonna increase your k/d only solution to that is git gud and maybe better hardware if you have a potato
@@randomstranger489 Bro didn't get it💀💀💀💀
@@randomstranger489 Pretty sure I'm mentally not so normal, yet even I got the joke...
At this point web browsers feel like a "pick your poison" scenario in terms of privacy
your best bets are probably tor, firefox, or brave
I went down the rabbit hole of privacy browsing, it comes at the cost of functionality. I mostly use google for everyday browsing, anything I don’t want on my name I switch to brave browser, but tbh your isp is the biggest problem if you care about privacy, you could run a vpn but then they become the problem, it gets to the point where you could make your own vpn or use linux on a usb stick and use different machines every time because they use machine settings to identify you, the size of your screen, the wallpaper you use, the operating system you run etc. can all be used in conjunction to identify a user without technically identifying them. Don’t worry too much though your a small number in a massive system, idc if google shows me ads about certain things I said in my browser, I look at it as helping me out. You wanna know something you should never do, get them ancestry dna tests, imagine in the future figuring out your genes are more likely to cause a certain cancer so they increase the price of your insurance. Stay safe don’t get too worked up about it 😂
@@Ardoy9761 Mullvad and LibreWolf are also excellent choices. However, the only browser I fully trust and am confident does not collect any data is Tor, even though I rarely use it
@@Ardoy9761ive never used brave and plan on trying it but firefox has been my main browser for years ivr never switched the only time i used a different browser is when i had to format my pc firefox has one of the best adblockers too which made me an even bigger fan
@@Ardoy9761 tor is very specialized and can be seen as sus by many countries, Firefox is not private out of the box, Brave got their scandals too both with their browser and search.
What kills me is people who are sponsored by Opera GX don't use it on Stream.
Only streamer i saw was imls
Moistcritical does
charlie does
@@jacobfolk9192 yeah because he has to if he wants to keep his fake tidy image, I guarantee you his personal PC is running stock chrome like all the sane people do
@@ethanwasme4307 no sane person uses chrome
i honestly only use it and love it because of the tab management system they have, i was able to create a work, university, movies and hobbies category and i can quickly just have the specific topic open and focus on work only for example and keep all the tabs i know i might need to look back at.
You can do that with actual plugins for most browsers.
i also dont trust opera gx because when a company advertises themselves so much they probably also steal information
They were bought by a Chinese company, what else do you expect?
@UTTPRichBitcoinman who asked
Like pretty much every corporation, website, device, service, or government does? Do you have a phone? Congrats, your biometric data is buyable to those who want it.
@@samumixofficial @officialsamumix The company is still in Norway and still must adhere to the legal privacy standards of Norway... which are a great GREAT deal stronger than US privacy laws. I mean obviously they take some your of info, just less than Chrome or Edge. They make most of their money from the built in affiliate links on their speed dial pages. If you follow the link they give you to amazon, eBay, Walmart, Booking, etc. every purchase you make gives Opera a kickback.
No one advertises something that is free without massive strings attached.
The one thing that I think Muta got wrong is about the GX Corner.
While yes, you cannot remove the tab, the tab is not actually "active" so it doesnt actually take from the system resources as far as I know.
When I start Opera GX, it immediately opens a tab with the Speed Dial. It doesnt open the GX Corner. The GX Corner doesnt start working and it doesnt become a real tab UNTIL you click on it. After that it stays active, however you can just turn off the browser and reopen it so it deactivates.
You can remove the tab by switching it to the sidebar, righ-clicking on it and pressing the first option (I think it's called "Hide GX Corner")
that's how every tab works on every browser, Muta was not wrong, it is just another tab
@@charautreal my point is, he kept saying that the tab consumes resources no matter if its open or not, that is wrong.
The tab doesnt activate until you click on it.
He explained it as if the tab consumes resources all the time. That is not the case.
I know that its a tab.
@@rattl1ng i dont know what to tell you, when its closed on my machine it doesnt take resources. Only if it was already clicked.
the quantum tab
But there’s a built in music player so that’s enough for me
2:28 “and you’ve probably seen massive collaborations with big superhero companies like Vought International.”
I appreciate Muta giving Vought the respect it deserves as a multinational corporation that’s integral to our economy.
Fuch firecracker!
@@chikoavena3407must be a Starlight commie. How many kids do YOU have in your basement?
Would you like a Fresca?
pee sauna
Those fucking sound effects I thought was some sound OUTSIDE of my headset & I had to take off my cans to listen...
Already thought there is a shootout a street away lmao
Tbh at this point I’d be floored to see a video where Muda trusts something.
like linux?
Read about safety issues on linux
@@reko8324 it's still many many times better than windows or mac
And yet he still implicitly trusts Linux.
I'm not saying I particularly care for Mac OS or Windows, but Linux-worshippers (like Muta) need to snap back to reality.
Linux is an unstable pipedream that's nearly been taken out by POLITICS multiple times now because its own coders can't even play nice and keep threatening to take the whole thing down.
Yeah, sounds REAL great as an alternative to corporate OS's.
/s
@@reko8324that's fearmongering from soydevs
Firefox + ublock is all you need
Screw everything else
I totally agree. I refuse to use any browser that is Chromium based. I have not found any websites that don't work on Firefox. One of my older PCs has a Celeron and 4gb ram and it still works perfectly fine on it with Win 11 AND Debian.
@@DarkForce2024 Unfortunately google's search engine is still the best I've used so far. Brave was ok i guess. DuckDuck is mediocre but atleast it doesn't ask me to solve 1000 captchas every time i use a vpn or a spoofer.
Firefox is wonky on pc. Doesn't allow me to scroll down all the channels. Otherwise I'd make it my default. Until then arc browser is my favorite
True
@@vash254 arc is proprietary trash
I moved to Firefox and never looked back.
Fr, firefox + ublock origin is all you need
MY MAN
I never moved, i use around 7 browsers
Did the same but switched, ANY site that used cloudflare didn't work.
same
I remember I had a Wii U and the built in browser on it allowed me to skip ads on youtube. The ads had the same scroll bar as normal videos so I just dragged them to the end to get rid of them. Sadly they fixed it some time around 2015-2017. Not sure when exactly I switched to using a PS4 mainly around that time and came back to it.
I remember the Wii U internet browser. Loved that feature. Watching videos on that was the best.
@Mario209Productions yeah because of it I actively used it over the built in TH-cam app. Plus console TH-cam apps have a terrible layout.
@@Mario209Productions younger generations will never know the struggle of deciding whether or not to chance watching corn on the family TV via Wii Browser.
I really appreciate the fact that opera allows me to use messenger without opening Facebook
Oh and the mini player
That shit is great, especially on a laptop
I actually like this feature despite not liking opera, so I end up using it anyway. If anyone can suggest an alternative, please do
Firefox actually has the mini window now! Is basically the same thing except for the opacity option, I think.
@@daze4135 vivaldi
Every browser ever let's you do that...
The network rerouting tools (essentially a VPN) can work if your ISP is cheap and chooses cheaper routing options rather than the fastest most direct links (Generally to overseas hosts) so while they may not help you if you're playing multiplayer games in your own region, it can help with certain job types that involve moving/accessing data from overseas, but by that point just purchase a VPN.
1:20 is when the vid starts
Thanks mate 👍
Ty
Aye, what a legend🫡
Thank you
Use sponsor block. It auto-skips that stuff. I didn't even notice until I saw this comment lol
I do think adding shaders to your browser is really funny
But I think its funny too. I think its the most hilariously implemented feature on a browser I've ever seen.
But regardless, as is with all humor, what is "funny" is clearly a subjective matter.
So thank you for sharing.
@@JaymeSplendid Oh I don't think that makes it a good browser either, just a funny meme
The purpose of Opera GX is for casuals with low-to-mid spec systems to get better performance for their games, at the expense of their browsing performance, when any other browser would only give them the option to kill the process entirely. My girlfriend plays games like Minecraft, Sims, and etc on her laptop, and to minimize the lag on her games, she had to close her browser entirely. With Opera GX, she just caps the browser to the lowest settings, and given she's not using it anyway until she alt-tabs to it, the loss of browser performance does not impact her during gaming sessions.
Opera GX is not a bad browser and it does offer things competitors do not offer. Their main sin is try-hardy marketing. Most "hardcore gamers" are going to have the specs to run their games plus whatever else they feel like in the background. But most gamers, in general, are not "hardcore," so Opera GX is aimed at making their experience better. Plus giving them that sense of being "real gamers" due to the company's branding.
Just use Vivaldi
Bro the cap doesnt fucking work
so you're telling me, that the solution to gaming while having a browser open that you're not using, is to limit its resources, and not click the giant "X" button on the top right corner of the browser?
@@DeerJerky You do not receive notifications if your browser is closed, and alt-tabbing to use it is faster than opening it up from scratch, then loading the website you want to use. Especially if you're following a tutorial or walkthrough.
How much did they pay you?
Firefox lives by "Unused ram is wasted ram" but it's also quick to discard tabs if you need it. I had over 1k tabs open in firefox and was only using about 1GB on an 8GB system (still had 2GB free ram)
counter intuitively I had the least amount of power usage on firefox compared to the rest.
I sometimes get to about 5GB used ram on my 32GB system(both under linux and windows). firefox does proportionally use more ram depending on how much you have/how much you need for other tasks.
You had 1,000 tabs open? Holy crap balls. I think the most I've ever had was 6. Normally I have about 3 AT MOST. I don't even think I regularly visit more than 50 different web sites on a regular basis.
1k tabs open is nasty work ngl
What a mess, 1k tabs? I only border 100 tabs on my hobby laptop and it is a MESS. You must be a good racoon to travel between all of that
I despise the saying that unused ram is wasted ram
@@DarkForce2024I still have 1500 tabs. Stuff trends to happen when Firefox makes it easy by having a scroll list of tabs instead of making each tab ever smaller and less convenient to use like other browsers, which forces you to close tabs.
2:10 I like how they show that Sneako blocked them as if that's some kind of "own" even though they do the exact same thing if you say anything critical of them lol
Exactly, which I find this incredibly ironic lol
Main reason I use it is the limiters have a noticeable impact on my decade old PC, may or might not keep using it once I can build a new one.
same i use opera gx on my aunts laptop coz google kills the danm laptop for me atleast
Who would've thought I'd still be telling people to use Firefox in 2024... What is this? 2007?!
You can actually get rid of GX Corner
right click GX Corner > move to sidebar > right click sidebar > uncheck GX Corner
Try Vivaldi, its made by old opera worker, highly more customizable and respects privacy
Going to do this later, thank you
@UTTPRichBitcoinmanYeah, and prison is just a location.
You can actually get rid of Opera GX
Select Start > Settings > Apps > Apps & features, find Opera GX, select More > Uninstall
@@Shrekrules471 its a bot dont reply just report
Might be wrong but it used to be that you can disable the GX corner by right clicking it and then remove it.
I was so stressed watching him whinnying about stuff you can turn off
Try Vivaldi, its made by old opera worker, highly more customizable and respects privacy
@@maffe_distroyerit's called bloat, most browsers don't have this, you don't have to dig through menus to have a useable browser
comes back with every update
You disable GX corner by reinstalling windows and using brave.
15:13 It can work on memory leaks. I used something like that to reset the RAM usage of programs. My laptop didn't have the memory to run a lot of things so it kept capping out, but I could buy myself an hour on a lot of games by smashing the RAM usage to 0.
Obviously the easier solution is to buy another stick of RAM, but if you're poor it's a functionality.
cool tip bro thank you! :DD
I use Opera GX on my Lenovo Legion Go and have zero problems. Spyware is in basically everything, both legally and illegally. If you want to completely disavow yourself from any privacy threats, you'll need to get rid of every piece of WiFi connective tech that is in your house, throw away your smart phone and replace it with a basic flip phone (they make special flip phones that absolutely CANNOT be tracked) and move yourself out into the wilderness of Alaska. Otherwise, stop worrying so much about these sort of things, unless of course you ACTUALLY store valuable data on your systems other than basic banking and personal info. You can do everything possible to protect that information and then Google or Capital One gets hacked and *fart noise* there goes your banking and personal info. If you are a bleeding edge tech engineer/developer, then you might consider avoiding as many privacy threats as possible.
I was an Opera GX user but recently switched to vivaldi cause opera gx was fighting me and having slowdowns and glitches (mind you, my PC has a 4070). I had enough and switched. The sole reason I used Opera GX was because of its sidebar where I could use Twitter. After using Vivaldi for a bit, I learned it also has a sidebar. Ever since, I never looked back!
I did the same thing, the only thing I miss are the typing sounds 😢
@@CoffeeArtThingsliterally just buy a mechanical keyboard with tactical switches
@@radixlinerWhy need to expend 80$+++ in a mechanic keyboard when you can download a browser for free and that's it.
And before you say it, 80$ in my country is A LOT of Money.
@@HeideGuy find the cheaper one, that's it
@@HeideGuy get rich 🥸
3:22 Nintendo Switch does have a web browser. It’s used to sign in to Wi-FI networks that require a browser to sign in and can be exploited using the switchbru DNS to browse the internet.
The whole reason I deleted it was because it was so SLOW. Like I was trying to download a game that it said would take hours and the download would stop because it was taking so long. Out of desperation I tried Chrome (which I know isn’t great, but I already had it) and it only took 5 minutes. Switched to Firefox and haven’t looked back. Runs all my extensions and I can have a custom background
If chrome isnt that great but it worked for you then why say its not great? in this scenario it was more optimal, the things that are wrong with chrome don't really apply here
Why not use internet download manager trial version ??
It's best download manager for the last 15 years.
How is that even an argument
Yes, in this situation chrome's flaws didn't matter but do you only use a browser to specifically download files? Like what.@@PhoenixAscension554
He is obviously saying chrome isn't great because of its optimization and huge privacy concerns not that it doesn't do what it's supposed to
“Why I don’t trust Opera GX” “Today’s video is brought to you by our friends over at Brilliant” the absolute hypocrisy.
how is it hypocritical? also if you watched the video he said opera GX isn't shady but just Kind of pointless and pointless marketing trap
firefoxe's ram usage is due to the Gecko web engine, it's not great with RAM, nor releasing RAM. it's why I'm hoping Servo progresses and Mozilla partners to use that
All I’m gonna say is that since I changed over to Opera, which was two weeks ago, I have had a lot of my CPU’s problems go away. They can siphon whatever number munching bullshit they want as long as it works as advertised.
You should run some system checks.
Fastest browser i ever used also the data saver feature is underrated...
@@cmbaz1140 idk I got Opera GX and my pc actually got faster
@@DrEpicPhD You should probably stop getting your panties in a mess and start being real, opera GX literally isn't bad, I have been using it ever since 2018 and have had no problems or issues with it, like at all.
@@guywithnohouse.6808it's still Chinese owned
Muta VS Charlie when?
Yoooooooo
🗿@UTTPRichBitcoinman
@UTTPRichBitcoinman AUTTP CLEAN UP! QUIT UTTP!
@@jhonadelicIt's a bot. Report it and ignore it.
Muta will win
Bro trusts absolutely no one at this point.
I dont blame him tbh, we are in a situation where we know every single company will try to stab you in the back at some point, is not if but a when
@@FokkusuI’m not going to only rely and use Linux via command line, we need these services
@UTTPRichBitcoinman I think bro accidentally pressed ctrl v and got exposed 😳
@pzwestern - I recommend joining the fight for consumers if you can then. You deserve trustworthy services. We all do.
yet he takes a sponsor from brilliant lmfao
task manager -> details tab -> find the .exe you want to 'boost' and right click -> set priority: high
Windows will handle the rest. Most of the time if a game is too hard for a system to run no amount of 'boosting' will help. But prioritizing the game might actually help with crashes and stability issues while lowering the game settings is the 'boost' that really gets those frames going.
Wrong
@@enderagent Wrong again
@@DeerJerky Doing 360s on it
lol
@@enderagent Elaborate, please. Why is he wrong? Because I would like to try that, if it's not a good idea please tell me why.
It's like Netscape's secret love-child grew up into a cringy Millennial.
Firefox is actually based of Netscape believe it or not
Finally somebody talked about it.
Fr only one who I saw criticize it was acheeto and alot of small youtubers
They've been a few channels who has been talking about how terrible Opera GX is for the last 3 or 4 years, but the Cult of Opera GX do the best they can do to label those video as "haters"
Is the aforementioned Brave less taxing to hardware resources? I watch streams and couple tab 2nd monitor.
The funny thing is leafy was the first one to talk about it
@@VelikiDimTRUE
Opera GX when I used it, started to cause crashing on my PC, I know it was the app because the crashing only occured when I had it installed. Each time I removed it, the crashing stopped.
I did find out that despite me uninstalling it, it was still hidden on my PC, as it would appear to be reinstalled shortly after. I had to nuke all traces of it.
how would one nuke it from their computer? Asking for a friend
@@UnworthyCretionYeah also wondering.
Bro got that virus. Use 'Vs Revo' to delete it.
@@UnworthyCretion use revo uninstaller or bcuninstaller
@@UnworthyCretion I went into the C Drive and deleted every folder within my program files/user documents.
There was also a shortcut for the app that was hidden inside a folder, I had to delete that manually.
I did use TreeSize at one point to clean up additional files, but I don't think it's required.
I think that Muta made a mistake by not considering low-resource systems in his tests, because GX Control functionality is *really* helpful on those
Disclaimer: this is a very generalised response without talking about specifics of different systems/browsers and their specific architectures, so not all of it may be true for EVERY system+browser combo, obviously.
Problem is that most OS schedulers in general consider your browser as a singular entity when deciding to give/limit system resources to it + they usually consider browsers to be high-priority processes, so they place them really low on out-of-memory killer priority list, for example. Which means that in the end essentially OS schedulers almost always diverge most of the resources to your browser unless you're running something even more resource-intense and prioritised in parallel (like a video game, obviously). So in the end you can't really rely on OS schedulers to limit your browser from being a resource hog, because in a lot of cases they will allow it to be.
And if you're trying to have another process running, which is less resource-intense than browser, but more important to you - like your work stuff, so for example editors for text (documents/code), images (2D/3D), audio/video, etc - then your OS will feed your resources to your browser instead of your editor, which will suck cause usually you need to mostly do stuff in the editor while only sometimes looking in the browser for research/instructions/etc, so you would prefer your editor to not stutter instead of browser.
However, there is a way to actually control it, and that's by controlling browser tabs. But since OS schedulers usually don't delve inside the main process (browser itself), they are unable to kill specific tabs that are hogging resources. But the browser itself can do that.
Now lately in recent versions a lot of browsers, even including the bloated giants like Chrome, started implementing automatic tab killers inside their browsers. They basically detect if system resources are low and decide which unfocused tabs are low-priority so they can kill threads of those tabs to free up some resources. The tab remains in your tab list, but it's essentially closed and will be "reopened" when you click on it. This is an insanely useful feature when you need to keep a lot of tabs opened (for research, for example), but have a low-resource system.
The problem is though that browser generally try to consider every tab a "high-priority" (which makes sense from "caring about user data" standpoint, they never know, what important stuff can be inputted in the tab and not saved yet) and automated killers only start when absolutely necessary (like when you whole system RAM usage is at 99%, for example). So in the end auto tab killers also don't really limit your browser from being a hog, they mostly just there to save your browser/system from a crash when/if it starts to choke at 99% of capacity.
So in the end the ONLY feature that I've seen in modern browsers that can actually force your system to give more resources to "less important than browser" (from OS's POV) things is this GX Control. With it I can avoid the situation "90% of resources is consumed by browser to keep all it's tabs opened, which I don't need, while my work stutters at 10% of resources" and instead can have a situation "hard limited 50% of resources is consumed by browser, forcing it to kill a bunch of tabs, which is fine, and my work lives comfortably with another 50% available, consuming more when needed more (when compiling or rendering, for example)".
Ironically all this means that this "gaming" browser is much more useful on a low-resource system (when gamers usually have high-resource ones, as evident by Steam statistics Muta used) used for working instead of gaming (because video games are more resource-intense processes and OS will prioritise giving them resource over browsers, but also will prioritise giving resources to browser over a lot of work software).
So the "browser for gamers" is perfect for a grandma's cheap laptop that has like 2GB RAM, a 100 opened browser tabs because she forgets to close them and a Microsoft Word document opened that she needs to edit, because then this GX Control hard RAM limit will actually allow Word to not stutter and work smoothly, while all OS schedulers and auto tab killers won't help.
The irony of this mismatch between marketing and actual useful cases is pretty funny, I'll admit.
Oh, and ofc, I completely agree with all the other points Muta made, like that Chromium-based browsers are all kinda bloated, like that Opera doesn't show it's source code too openly, like that in the privacy department it's lacking, etc. That's why I personally don't use it on my systems (anymore, besides the time when I had to work from a really old and weak laptop for some time).
I just feel like he really didn't consider how useful this GX Control feature is for low-end systems since his main system (obviously) and even his virtual machine that he pulled from Steam stats are pretty high-end. And how actually unique it is, since I don't think any other browser has it, and OS schedulers/auto tab killers, as I explained earlier, are not a full substitute for it. So, IMHO, GX Control is really the killer feature of this browser... but not for gamers.
*TL DR: The "browser for gamers" is more suited for gamer's parents or even grandparents, lol.*
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Muta please make a web browsers tier list !!!
He already did. That's how I found this channel.
@@nick_the_padbreaker can you please link it? ^_^
Opera GX throttled my Thunderbolt USB drivers. I just uninstalled it today and rebooted my computer - all my devices miraculously started working again. Thanks Mutahar, this video was very conveniently timed for me.
EDIT: for those who have said "browsers generally don't do shit" or "the reboot is probably what fixed it" - look at a feature built into Opera GX called "GX Lights". This feature polls your USB RGB driver code and adds real-time RGB effects into your "browsing experience". Basically, it controls your lighting by injecting instance code into your USB drivers. This is what was causing my keyboard and mouse to fail. I'm sure if I wanted to, I could have turned off the feature myself in the back-end or checked the advanced settings flags in Opera GX; but it's about the principle. A web browser has no business overtaking my USB devices without my consent. So I uninstalled Opera GX, and I have no plans of getting it back.
I work in IT, I know how computers work lol. This was an Opera GX problem, not a peripheral or Windows problem. Don't tell me you know my computer better than I do. I'm not naïve when it comes to technology.
*mic drop*
_I also replied to "Aaron Plays" but my comment was hidden. Thanks TH-cam. In short, I completely understand where he's coming from - I'm peeing into the wind when it comes to arguing for privacy. I _*_agreed_*_ to their EULA, so I should have expected anything. But Opera GX is poorly optimized, and I shouldn't expect my keyboard and mouse to drop off the face of the earth just because I wanted to use lighting control. Nor should I have to turn off said lighting control for my keyboard and mouse to work in the first place. That's bad code._
More likely the reboot fixed it... But who knows, Windows is weird.
@@ExtraordinaryFate Better than you do, apparently. It's far more likely a reboot fixed it than a browser that generally doesn't do shit.
@@joe--cool "Le windows bad guys". It's all so tiresome.
"A web browser has no business overtaking my USB devices" -- so no webcam access, no mouse/keyboard access, no biometric verification, no MFA...
If the browser itself advertised that it could do that, and it provided a means for you to turn it off, you're just unreasonably mad at nothing.
@@aaronplays_ Webcam access, mouse/keyboard access, biometrics, and MFA - these are usually all server-side access code. Those are driver segments required by server APIs to get a site running effectively for you, the end user. They enable you, the end user, to get *their* website or software working for your convenience. You are free to accept or decline these API calls, at your own risk, for your own benefit or deficit; to get this one website working better for your purposes.
GX Lights, however, is client-side access code. Client-side access code, is not kosher whatsoever. You are more or less telling a program that regardless of what you are doing with their software, they are in control of your API calls, your resources, your leisure activity.
Now, I don't disagree with your point at all - you're being more than fair. *I agreed* to Opera GX's EULA when I installed their software. I'm peeing into the wind on that one, I get you; and the fact that I'm here discussing privacy while I figuratively said, "Here, Opera! Take over my I/O!", means I should have expected anything. My point is, I just figured they would have had better sense than to start throttling my keyboard and mouse's performance with bad source code.
It's not unreasonable, however, to expect what you asked for, at no extra personal expense. It'd be like going to a fast food restaurant, asking for no pickles on your burger, and getting a McPickle. Sure, I can spend my time picking all of the pickles off the burger, and be somewhat satisfied with the end result; but I specifically asked to not have pickles on the burger in the first place. Opera GX is the McPickle of my source code dilemma; because it should be optimized enough that if it wants to control my lighting, fine, here you go. But it isn't. It's buggy and they aren't using the right resources to map the injection correctly.
Also, pickles on burgers are fine. It was just an analogy lol.
I switched from Opera GX to Firefox back when Google wanted to kill adblock addons on Chromium browsers. I don't miss it in the slightest, especially given that projects such as Firefox GX exist, which makes your Firefox browser look like Opera GX, which was the only thing I actually liked about Opera GX in comparison to other browsers.
There a download link? And also what features does it carry over from Opera GX
Firefox is shit, though, and an absolute RAM hogger while providing no benefits that every other Chromium browser doesn't already do better.
@@sarkaztik3228 Firefox is completely fine with regards to resource usage imho (and in using it overall), plus it's not under the control of the biggest ad company in the world, which all Chromium based browsers are.
@@sarkaztik3228 I mean you say that, but I frequently mess with the about:config in the Developer Edition and as a result have gotten the RAM usage to be comparable to when I was using Opera GX. As for the "Chromium handles it better" argument, I don't doubt it's the case overall, but I have found that Firefox is overall more stable as you can turn off the Windows "Eco Mode" (which itself states causes instability) setting that Chromium doesn't let you do without launch arguments. All that being said, I am not going to even entertain the idea of not having an adblock like uBlock Origin, and the only way to guarantee such is to not be at all linked to the Chromium browser engine. If Firefox *was* just another "Chromium but with another coat of paint" browser, then I very much would not be dying on this hill.
firefox is the only competitor to chromium in the wide browser space, i find it important to use it just for that lmao
it's sad because opera gx has the best looking UI and customization
@UTTPRichBitcoinman wtf
@ggreg142 just ignore them, they're bots
@@Elatenl alot of people do? opera has one of the best UI designs which is why so many people use it, it has the gamer aesthetic look to it and that's their selling point and it clearly worked so yes alot of people care about UI design
Vivaldi and Firefox (CSS): Are we a joke to you?
@@Elatenl lmfao are you serious? Do you know what UI stands for?
How can OperaGX claim to use less memory than other browsers while, at the end of the day, be chromium-based and full of boatware.
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The claim does hold true if you are a tab hoarder.... Basically the REAL primary reason to get the browser is it's chrome... that gives you a button to put your tabs to sleep*... and actually stands a chance of not losing all of your many, many, many tabs. Now if you have good tab hygiene and/or a decent computer with an ample amount of RAM... yeah no... it doesn't really matter.
*Other chrome based browsers can and will put tabs to sleep....... when it is absolutely necessary because they have exhausted all of your resources.
@@wh0_am_152 you one of them special types that have 30+ tabs open?
Firefox used more ram than most of the chromium based browsers
@@jkbobful and runs way worse. Especially when you try to watch videos with or without drm. It is so sad. I like the Firefox for its security features but it is terrible for everything more than pure browsing :(
the fact that opera is older than me by 20 years is crazy
I think you covered this excellently. People who want Opera GX, should do it. If they got charmed by the snake oil salesman lines, then don't. If they like these functions then more power to them. If they fear about Chinese spyware allegations, they shouldn't. I think in spite of the title this is a pretty neutral review, even if you are deeply skeptical of Opera GX. It's a product for people, it may not be for everyone and certainly doesn't have some industry shaking unique advantage but it's a decent browser for those who look for that, at least.
Saying we should just ignore Chinese ownership as it relates to security concerns is insane. No one who works anywhere with valuable intellectual property can even consider this junk.
Hi! When you showed your neofetch output I saw you only had one gpu, the rtx 4090, but when you opened virt-manager I also saw you had that gpu passed trough to the win11 virtual machine. I wanted to ask you if you share your gpu between the host and the guest or you figured a way to partition your gpu underneath linux?
If you want the GX Corner to be gone from the Taskbar, all you have to do is enable the (one and only) slider that was highlighted when you searched for it in the settings. That's it, that's how you get rid of it.
I wish you touched upon Vivaldi, which was made by the Co-Founder and then CEO of Opera. There had to be a reason beyond "oh Opera shut down their forum so they just up and left" which is what wikipedia basically states. If the CEO decided it would be better to start over with a more security focused browser than to stay at his current company, I'm sure there were more reasons than the one I mentioned.
Vivaldi is just another chromium browser, not gonna touch it anymore then i would Chrome or Opera. Firefox is the only option anymore if you won't want Google or M$ hard-R'ing your data. (Firefox isn't perfect, just better.)
@@exidy-ytyou can properly setup ungoogled chromium to have the same security and privacy as firefox. Chromium actually has better sandboxing than firefox aswell.
Vivaldi is an unorganized mess
@@LEYTHLEGACY Settings are very complicated and sorting out what you want where is exhausting. Opera is more simple in that. But I'm using Brave rn
@@exidy-ytFirefox is pro censorship, no thank you
What I like about Opera GX is the screenshot feature where you can screenshot a portion of the page and also the feature when you copy an image and upload it you can choose the picture on your clipboard so you wont have to download the picture if you want to upload ot just copy and youre good to go
This is a windows feature there's literally a button on your keyboard for it. If you press print screen and make a selection it will automatically save the image to clipboard
Shift+Win+S
@@Orangr thank you sooo muuuch!!!!!
My bigga, how did you not know that? It's been a feature since Windows 10. @@Loutales
@@methamphetamememcmeth3422 I know about the snap tool but I do not know the shortcut XD
I actually bought Opera 3.61. Ran it under Windows 95a and Windows 3.11. I still have the registration key somewhere.
there IS a way to disable the gx corner fully nowadays, but it is a bit convoluted.
Send it to the sidebar. Then remove it from the sidebar in the sidebar settings.
Hope Charles takes a look at this
I don't think he'll care but if he does I would be impressed
Charles genuinely uses Opera gx unlike some of the other sponsors, He's might've seen this video by now since he does watch this channel.
@@OhSoTiredManvideos only been out for 2 hours
Eh the checks already cleared so.....
+1 for Librewolf, anything Firefox fork is a great choice when it comes to privacy
Oh yeahhh because they will definitely honor the system and keep your privacy private am I right?
@@miirico5398 Yes? They do? I don’t know what point you’re trying to make.
Security updates are best in official original firefox because they come faster
Yh its hardened firefox. Many reports that its too tough and not great for general usability like Brave ig but you choose what matters more to you.
@@miirico5398 Its literally open source bro, the whole point is that you dont need to trust it, cuz you can look at the source code and compile it yourself...
6:13 Microsoft Edge is not actually open source, just like Opera GX both are based on chromium which is open source but the layers on top (browser vendor specific features) which make Chrome, Opera GX, Microsoft Edge and other browsers is not open source.
I actually really like a lot of the features. The VPN works well enough to get around geoblocking, the pop put video feature is great, and the way it saves your tabs was really useful for me in the spring when storms kept knocking my power out.
these are good features but u can have them on something like librewolf that is open source and community driven
What browser doesn't save your tabs?
What browser doesn't allow you to use a VPN?
@@playerroku4412 chrome
what browser doesn't have popout video?
Not that it changes anything but edge also runs on startup.
So basically:
1) There's not much performance difference across browsers.
2) Opera has some extra features that some may or may not find useful.
3) 26:24 here's a 2 minute scroll of a privacy test on some browesers.
4) Opera doesn't sell your data to anyone because that's illegal.
I honestly think this video didn't need to be almost 40 minutes long. Most of it was spent on saying you don't care about the extra features it has and the fact that the performance is similar to other browsers. I clicked for the privacy concerns you hinted at by the title that you only ever adressed 25 minutes in. And even the browser you use, brave (if I understood correctly) isn't even that good at it if you compare it with that Tor one.
Essentially if you like how opera gx looks and how customisable it is, try it out and even if you don't think you'll find much use of certain features, that's no reason to dislike the browser. If you don't like the aesthetic that's fine, there's many browsers to choose from.
As a European company Opera probably won't be selling your info to any Chinese, American, European or whatever governments and companies.
If privacy is the only thing you care about to the point that browser customizability doesn't concern, just get Tor since apparently no other browser does that as well.
man thx i was only worried about the data stuff tbh since alot of passwords are stored here but tbh i dont even care about performance i always close browsers when gaming
I use Brave myself. I moved to Brave after Edge started giving me problems.
yeah, same. brave just is a lot more intuitive and generally has more utility than a lot of other browsers out here
I don't know... I don't trust a browser that promotes itself to be secure. That's like painting a huge target in your head.
Yea... I'm using edge and notice it being sluggish even using the settings in performance tabs makes it slower
@@diegomedina9637I mean, is there a browser that admits it's not secure?
@@R3TR0J4Ni mean brave did me well so far i have 8gigs of ram 1050 ti cpu dont remember it is slow but its working well cause my pc aint the greatest
I’ll stick to edging, thanks.
Didn't you used to sponsor it
Holy shit this video could have been 10 minutes. Stop repeating the same thing 10 times before moving on to a new point. Couldn't finish this video.
I knew I should, but the final straw that made me stop using Opera GX was the jump-scare from Eric Andre. It's bad enough that it's impossible to disable the startup splash once the browser updates itself. I'd imagine for most people it plays at full PC volume since everyone just uses sliders in whatever video playback app is being used. I normally have headphones plugged in at all times, but this one time I happened to have them unplugged so I open my browser, tab to something else and all of a sudden I hear this loud scraping/ripping sound and then someone yelling at full blast. I literally thought someone was in my apartment and I scrambled to defend myself. I could not figure out what had happened since the jumpscare doesn't leave anything on the screen...just my open browser like normal. I was shaking for the next few hours, even at work. Get the fuck outta here, Opera. Then the non-apology tweet in response to everyone with stories like mine: "Chill brah it's only for one day". I uninstalled like I should have a long time ago.
In 7 months he’ll start saying brilliant is bad
I could be misremembering but didn’t Mutah had an opera ad in a previous video(s)?
@@gigittygoop3094 I’m like a thousand percent sure he has atleast once glazed opera
LOL, he took sponsors and is now trying to distance himself from the controversy. Literally every browser sells data, literally every company does it because it's not illegal. Do you have a phone? You're biometric, location, any type of data that can be sold, is being done so WITH your consent (for even using it.)
@@gigittygoop3094 A lot over the years, like every other TH-camr who focused on Gaming/tech.
Brilliant is bad. Whatever topic I want to learn I look up a reputable school, search through their course catalog find the topics I like, punch into google the course number followed by "syllabus," find the name of the textbook and refference material in the syllabus and then pull the book from online. Inside a lot of textbooks are also reference pages with titles to more textbooks and papers. If you can read textbooks then you can learn quite a bit from the internet.
Just one correction: You can absolutely turn off GX corner, I turned it off on my own client. It functions as a pinned tab all you have to do is right click it and select "seperate tab".
The real question is why not try Vivaldi? It has all of the benefits of Opera GX but with Linux support and (while the UI does not count) is open source. All while not selling your data because it has no incentive to, with Vivaldi Technologies not being owned by companies like Google or MS
Because nobody uses Linux unless they have a SteamDeck or they r a big 🤓
Why not firefox / forks of Firefox? Like floorp?
@@kodeytheneko I can't speak on those, because I have not used them, especially any Firefox forks
Anything I can say would be dishonest out of the gate
They are chromium based, personally I use Firefox because it’s “freer” software and googles only competitor
@@Caketurtle7he uses Linux tho
I use Microsoft edge to edge myself to sog
ain't no way, imagine making a comment and your only replies is a bot
@@starleaf-luna probably a bot from drake or Dr drakerespect
There was that same Vought ad on this video. lol
another thing is plugins that opera includes by default, opera's ad blocker was embedding malicious scripts on the sites
I looked into this claim, that's not actually what the ad blocker does. It is running that code to block the content coming from the weird links that was shown into their ad block. No need to spread the misinformation
Been using Opera for a year, never had issues or malware on my PC or anything like that. Please look into yo7r claims before claiming a browser is injecting stuff into websites when it's not and is quick Google search on their forums disproves that / explains that "claim"
Is this true? I mean, I wouldn't doubt it but I'd like to read more about it if you can pull up an article or something
@@JaymeSplendid At that time I worked as a pentester, one of my colleagues also pentester showed that he has sites open with a large picture of the Ukrainian flag embedded in them (we are from Russia) as we are all security experts it was not difficult to trace that it is an injected by Opera extension, by the way one of the heads of Opera security is known for his interesting actions, if the flag is not terrible, but the possibility that you can insert any script is not safe and loss of trust.
Seems like they don't know what real gamers need.
A slick slim small not very demanding fast browser, with a clever user interface, that does not spy on you,
that doesn't stack up bigger and bigger growing files about your behaviour and/or whatever.
I've been using Opera for the better part of 20 years. Currently the scummiest thing has to be Opera adding sites to speed dial (default home page) It's blatantly just based on who is paying them that week.
Going farther back, I miss being able to divide tabs within your windows the same way we organize windows in the desktop. It was the last major feature before they migrated to chrome
Mutahar should put a counter on the bottom right corner to count how many times he says f**k and it's variants.
I've tried Opera GX on three different computers, and every time I had weird graphical glitches on my screen with the browser open while watching videos. On a previous computer, it was just all kinds of bugged. It looks really cool and I used it for a while before the glitches and stuff happened more frequently. I liked having instant access to messengers and stuff on the sidebar, but it's just a bunch of bells and whistles that are ultimately aesthetic. When the graphical glitches became a frequent eyesore, I just said screw it, I'm not messing with it anymore.
I remember the bad old days when my new iPhone 3G (and the 3g service itself) was so slow I had to use Opera Mobile because it was barebones. This abomination is nothing like that.
3g is what you call the bad old days?
dont do, or not do, solely because of what you heard from someone else.
you dont really have to eat all your vegetables, but it makes everything else taste better in comparison.
without bad days, good days will just feel like normal days, and get boring when you forget how to appreciate them.
do all your homework right away so you have more time for yourself later without the feeling of dread about still having to do it.
The browser sound effects sound like there is a shooting outside Muta's house
What browser should I use then?
Personally I use Firefox, but I've heard good things about Brave as well.
Probably not any of them. IP only now boys.
In all seriousness probably Brave or Vivaldi.
personally i use brave, its just simply better for me
None. The only way to truly stay safe is to go live in a cave far away from society. Otherwise, don't worry about it.
firefox based browser
3:36
"Browse the internet and play a video game at the same time"
Or use your phone... XD
or just use two windows to splitscreen in any browser lol
Or , call me crazy , just use the pc if you wanna check stuff in internet instead of using videogame platform for it
Or... crazy take, I know... but, shift+tab and open your damn Steam overlay. Idk why Muta made this out to be rocket science.
@@atrocious7766Steam Overlay, and all overlays for that matter (Discord/Gforce) adds latency.
The Steam overlay, while I do love it as a feature and it has saved me a lot of times, has always been pretty unstable in my experiense.
hey muta, Opera GX blocked on twitter when I said that they are a company who got bought by a chinese company and never disclosed about it, then they blocked me xD