As a rule of thumb, I generally slowly stop using free/freemium products that somehow sponsor a shit ton of influencers, not for any grand or particular reason, just feels like something's wrong.
Also, a "gaming" anything just doesn't make sense, look at every "gaming" products, the mid-range or used professional grade equivalents are much much better options.
@steins1457 The only product I would be ok with the "gaming" tag would be gaming mice. I do like having extra buttons(also useful for regular things, especially with macros) and having higher dpi. That's about it though. I still use the plain old 90s mechanical keyboards and plain jane office chairs because of comfort, durability, and cost. The only problem with my keyboard is the ever coming end of the mini-din connectors on the computers and parts themselves.
In the last few years I basically migrated most of my things to open source alternatives, be it the OS, browser, music player, etc... I have a dual boot setup where I just get into windows to play video games and everything else I do under Linux.
This video can seemingly be summarized by the age old adages "don't believe salesmen" and "If you're connected to the internet, you're vulnerable". The gamer branding is just a marketing approach that imo is pretty clever, because outside of huge nerds, you need something to distinguish your browser from Chrome and Edge even though they're all essentially the same browser.
Bots are a protected class on youtube, they can do things you and I can't. They can say things you can't, they can exist without ban, which you can't. TH-cam IS IN ON IT.
At the end of the day, every browser is spying on you no matter how much they claim that privacy is important to them. It's just a matter of picking the one that you hate the least.
@@FourtyFifthWhile you can't ever be sure about the intentions and security of a product or company (hence the term "the most secure computer is one that doesn't even turn on"), we can make approximations about the credibility of their claims. In the video, muta mentioned 2 very well respected pages that show privacy wise what browsers have the best anti ad/tracking functionality and minimal telemetry; Privacytests and SizeofCat's post on web browser telemetry. Librewolf, Mullvad and Tor Project performed best due to their exceptional capabilities that help minimize fingerprinting and revealing unique identifiers that can make your device more apparent. These aren't empty claims, you CAN verify this by checking the active connections said browser does through your ports or in a firewall. Why do you think Tor Project is always used by journalists, foreigners, people of interest or individuals being targeted by the government? It HAS this reputation for a reason, and these privacy respecting browsers have been audited and independently checked. Of course, with how fast technology has progressed people don't even know how thorough spyware, telemetry and other metadata collector methods are. If you simply use Windows you're f***ed. If you use google's search engine you're f***ed. If you use Android, bought out by google you're f***ed. Personally, I want to minimize this collection as much as possible, not because "I have something to hide", but because I care about not having my PERSONAL, PRIVATE data being sold out to malicious brokers that seem to think people want to buy their products. So, while it seems that everything is spying on us (and yes, they certainly are), this is willful ignorance. There are so many open source, regularly audited, decentralized alternatives to common apps and programs that you can use yet people are too ignorant to do the switch or just assume "its pointless". It's impossible to completely lock down your computer, and it's also impossible to be completely spied on. Personally, I'm choosing the latter.
In terms of the limiters, I think it's geared toward people with less-than-average specs, or people with games that aren't very optimized. There's going to be something that suffers, and the limiter effectively works as a more in-depth and customizable priority option.
I had a computer that would max out the cpu when using chrome, I was forced to use Opera and a limiter to even watch a video on youtube. it sucked. it's definitely for the cheaper computers to be able to run stuff without burning the house down
microsoft edge is probably the complete opposite with microsoft forcing windows to have it by default. What is the majority of people gonna do when they have a free web browser already installed? lots of free data marketed towards clueless people. probably worse than chrome
@@lukeluneven worse, they market it as “privacy friendly” to lure people back in. I miss the old Edge, it was simple and (surprisingly) light, and EdgeHTML was an interesting concept in a Gecko/Blink/Webkit triopoly.
I'm using Opera GX not bcs it's a "gamer browser" or bcs "it's safe"(nothing related to the internet is safe. not even VPNs.), I use it cus that's the only browser which doesn't lag my laptop and doesn't require a sht ton of memory to function...
Check Chromium. That has been better in RAM than any other browser I USE. Each person is going to be different with what hardware they are running and what custom extensions they may use.
@@chaska8144 depends quite a bit on what you're using your browser for. For example I changed to Edge a while back beacause I used to have Twitch on my side monitor all the time. Chrome and Firefox were using stupid amounts of ram for Twitch but Edge didn't (maybe it got fixed in recent years not sure).
I love how there was audio of music playing in the background at the start of the video. Just loud enough that it made me look out my window to see who was so happy to share their music while in their car outside my house.
@@amejade He was tricked by the video's audio into thinking a car outside was playing loud music. You can do this by cutting everything but the bass out of a given audio track and maybe putting a slight delay on it, and other tricks such as mid-side processing to make it sound like it's coming from outside the speakers/ behind your head.
Also quick note: Their mobile version of GX is a barebones normal browser. Not similar to the PC version if you're curious about memory limiting features or the funky filters.
@@justinmabb1997 yeah for the most part but some website detect the AdBlock and even if the AdBlock is off, it's still detect it, I hope it was as reliable as Ublock extension
well ,the Switch does have a browser built in, youre just not allowed to use it. the switch itself only opens it, if you conect to a hotspot requiring a login website and closes it as soon as it has internet.
Or anything that would open a browser in my experience. Such as your example, links in the eshop, or sometimes online games will link to an outside website.
@@Musikvidedo And if I ever felt the need for a process manager that completely sucks at fulfilling it's core purpose of attributing CPU usage to what is causing it 90% of the time, that's what I would use.
You just got told why this is at best snake oil and you still want it for your browser that turned out to be the most resource heavy, and likely is one of the worst in terms of feature support, lacking the monetary weight behind chromium. Ask yourself again if it's not just being a contrarian or betting on the underdog.
My main complaint about modern Opera is that it stopped using its own Presto rendering engine and just decided to follow the crowd and switch to Chromium, and I'm a web dev who made my bones during the IE6 vs Firefox days right before the first version of Google Chrome dropped when IE-only HTML and CSS on websites was the norm and I sometimes had to fight to even get clients to consider _Safari_ users as well before the iPhone released.
IE-only code. Man, you unlocked some memories there, thanks. I'd make IE6 functional, but I recall adding disclaimers to the bottom of my sites that it "worked best in Firefox," lol.
This is also my main complaint with Opera GX, not because it uses Chromium in the first place, but because it does so in a poor manner. I've found that some websites have functions that simply don't work on my Opera GX but work just fine on any other browser including Google Chrome, so there are times where I end up having to use different browsers anyway which kind of sucks because I use Opera specifically as a less bloated alternative to Chrome.
I became an Opera user in 2002 and I stuck with the last presto version as long as I possibly could. Then I moved to Firefox, a browser I thought I would never end up using. Still with Firefox.
ever heard of company sponsorships? ad revenue? you think how does edge stay in business, and every other social media platforms and other browers like brave fuck even firefox, you think how do they stay in business?
@@Shrimpyyysssedge is Microsoft so it’s the default browser for windows. Chrome is Google and sells your data and tries to integrate your browser with their other services, Firefox is run by Mozilla, which funds itself through some non-targeted and unobtrusive ads on the home page but is owned by a nonprofit focused on open source and consumer privacy
@@ShrimpyyysssEdge stays in business because it’s backed by Microsoft, and we all know Microsoft’s market cap and track records regarding privacy. As for other browsers such as Brave or Firefox, they’re both open source and under the Mozilla Public License, which means other people can contribute to the project and reduce the costs required by their actual company, and the rest of the costs can be easily covered by distribution deals with various search engines
Well I guess if you want a browser running in the background, for easy access and that doesn't use a ton of system resources. But I've never seen the point personally.
i use opera gx because i saw an ad for it in like 2021 and have used it since. i dont switch cuz it looks cool. i dont give a shit about the bot clone they made of me in china that has all my data. it just looks cool and it has all my stuff on it. i kinda hate this browser elitism saying that "your always volnurable" no shit bro your connected to the internet of course everyone sees your data. just use what looks cool.
This. Everytime I changed my browser someone pointed it was bad for my privacy. Every single one. I just stopped caring. Worst that can happen is some scam emails that are just easy to recognize and ignore.
Yeah, Opera was obtained by a Chinese company and near that time people left Opera and created the company Vivaldi which created the semi-open-source browser called Vivaldi.
Opera as a whole was acquired, including the development teams. However, in 2022, the Chinese consortium sold its shares, and Opera has since committed to repurchasing American Depository Shares to re-establish its corporate autonomy. This indicates a move away from Chinese ownership, but the full implications for development and data privacy remain to be seen. 🤞🏼🤞🏼
The first time I heard about Opera was in 2011 in middle school when we had ipod touches. Opera was the work around we found to access facebook, twitter, and messaging apps on the schools wifi since that was all restricted otherwise on the network
I use firefox and brave. Youre going to get spied on no matter what, but being able to launch a browser and use it and have it not take 6.5 galactic years before it pops up as an unresponsive white screen is whats important to me until something comes out that actually works, quickly at that, and actually protects my privacy in a meaningful way.
Firefox actually is probably one of the safest browsers on the internet. Using it with Ublock Origin and Sponsorblock probably makes it the safest, period. Firefox and UBlock help block tracking cookies and Firefox has a bunch more built in security than any other browser thanks to being not based on chromium. Also Opera GX tracks your exact latitude and longitude regardless of tracking settings so.
I don't trust anything gaming-themed. It's all just cheaply effective marketing. Maybe besides "gaming" computer mice, cause the "non-gaming" ones are generally terrible, unless you spare like 120$ for one...
If randomly youtubers are pushing something to you. The product is 1000% low quality. The only time I trust a TH-camr ad is when the TH-cam channel is in the same field as the product.
i honestly only use it and love it because of the tab management system they have, i was able to create a work, university, movies and hobbies category and i can quickly just have the specific topic open and focus on work only for example and keep all the tabs i know i might need to look back at.
In terms of the GX corner, how I found to disable it is quite simple, and you did half the steps when you were first talking about it. You toggle the setting to kick it to the sidebar, right click it from the sidebar and click "hide GX corner". You can still access it through the settings or by searching the page's url, but it's no longer clogging up the UI.
I've used every single browser and I find this one to be the better of them all and I had no problem killing the GX corner or using the VPN or any of that stuff.. but you really do need to go through everything and customize it all
@@oscardalmatiner8724 well, yes, they *are* worse than real world companies, but the entire point of the show (not the comics) is that we’re rapidly approaching that point. Vought is basically what Disney will become in a few years if nothing changes.
I went down the rabbit hole of privacy browsing, it comes at the cost of functionality. I mostly use google for everyday browsing, anything I don’t want on my name I switch to brave browser, but tbh your isp is the biggest problem if you care about privacy, you could run a vpn but then they become the problem, it gets to the point where you could make your own vpn or use linux on a usb stick and use different machines every time because they use machine settings to identify you, the size of your screen, the wallpaper you use, the operating system you run etc. can all be used in conjunction to identify a user without technically identifying them. Don’t worry too much though your a small number in a massive system, idc if google shows me ads about certain things I said in my browser, I look at it as helping me out. You wanna know something you should never do, get them ancestry dna tests, imagine in the future figuring out your genes are more likely to cause a certain cancer so they increase the price of your insurance. Stay safe don’t get too worked up about it 😂
@@Ardoy9761 Mullvad and LibreWolf are also excellent choices. However, the only browser I fully trust and am confident does not collect any data is Tor, even though I rarely use it
@@Ardoy9761ive never used brave and plan on trying it but firefox has been my main browser for years ivr never switched the only time i used a different browser is when i had to format my pc firefox has one of the best adblockers too which made me an even bigger fan
@@Ardoy9761 tor is very specialized and can be seen as sus by many countries, Firefox is not private out of the box, Brave got their scandals too both with their browser and search.
2:28 “and you’ve probably seen massive collaborations with big superhero companies like Vought International.” I appreciate Muta giving Vought the respect it deserves as a multinational corporation that’s integral to our economy.
@@jacobfolk9192 yeah because he has to if he wants to keep his fake tidy image, I guarantee you his personal PC is running stock chrome like all the sane people do
the term "gaming browser" should make everyone cringe by default - if it was made for gaming it would actually cost something and it would cost more than their competitors "casual browsers" and upon opening your fifth browser tab youd get asked to please buy the "premium task package" for another $2,49/month
True, opera being chinese would instead turn tabs into gacha. What tab are you pulling next? Oop, you're out of free pulls! Pay your entire life savings now for 200 pulls!
Like pretty much every corporation, website, device, service, or government does? Do you have a phone? Congrats, your biometric data is buyable to those who want it.
@@samumixofficial @officialsamumix The company is still in Norway and still must adhere to the legal privacy standards of Norway... which are a great GREAT deal stronger than US privacy laws. I mean obviously they take some your of info, just less than Chrome or Edge. They make most of their money from the built in affiliate links on their speed dial pages. If you follow the link they give you to amazon, eBay, Walmart, Booking, etc. every purchase you make gives Opera a kickback.
On the topic of browser performance while gaming there are basically only two important features: - the ability to suspend/hibernate tabs - correct use of GPU video acceleration for minimum CPU usage while having YT on the second screen And that is done by many browsers nowadays.
The one thing that I think Muta got wrong is about the GX Corner. While yes, you cannot remove the tab, the tab is not actually "active" so it doesnt actually take from the system resources as far as I know. When I start Opera GX, it immediately opens a tab with the Speed Dial. It doesnt open the GX Corner. The GX Corner doesnt start working and it doesnt become a real tab UNTIL you click on it. After that it stays active, however you can just turn off the browser and reopen it so it deactivates.
@@charautreal my point is, he kept saying that the tab consumes resources no matter if its open or not, that is wrong. The tab doesnt activate until you click on it. He explained it as if the tab consumes resources all the time. That is not the case. I know that its a tab.
So basically: 1) There's not much performance difference across browsers. 2) Opera has some extra features that some may or may not find useful. 3) 26:24 here's a 2 minute scroll of a privacy test on some browesers. 4) Opera doesn't sell your data to anyone because that's illegal. I honestly think this video didn't need to be almost 40 minutes long. Most of it was spent on saying you don't care about the extra features it has and the fact that the performance is similar to other browsers. I clicked for the privacy concerns you hinted at by the title that you only ever adressed 25 minutes in. And even the browser you use, brave (if I understood correctly) isn't even that good at it if you compare it with that Tor one. Essentially if you like how opera gx looks and how customisable it is, try it out and even if you don't think you'll find much use of certain features, that's no reason to dislike the browser. If you don't like the aesthetic that's fine, there's many browsers to choose from. As a European company Opera probably won't be selling your info to any Chinese, American, European or whatever governments and companies. If privacy is the only thing you care about to the point that browser customizability doesn't concern, just get Tor since apparently no other browser does that as well.
man thx i was only worried about the data stuff tbh since alot of passwords are stored here but tbh i dont even care about performance i always close browsers when gaming
The purpose of Opera GX is for casuals with low-to-mid spec systems to get better performance for their games, at the expense of their browsing performance, when any other browser would only give them the option to kill the process entirely. My girlfriend plays games like Minecraft, Sims, and etc on her laptop, and to minimize the lag on her games, she had to close her browser entirely. With Opera GX, she just caps the browser to the lowest settings, and given she's not using it anyway until she alt-tabs to it, the loss of browser performance does not impact her during gaming sessions. Opera GX is not a bad browser and it does offer things competitors do not offer. Their main sin is try-hardy marketing. Most "hardcore gamers" are going to have the specs to run their games plus whatever else they feel like in the background. But most gamers, in general, are not "hardcore," so Opera GX is aimed at making their experience better. Plus giving them that sense of being "real gamers" due to the company's branding.
so you're telling me, that the solution to gaming while having a browser open that you're not using, is to limit its resources, and not click the giant "X" button on the top right corner of the browser?
@@DeerJerky You do not receive notifications if your browser is closed, and alt-tabbing to use it is faster than opening it up from scratch, then loading the website you want to use. Especially if you're following a tutorial or walkthrough.
god i know im late but 2 months ago?! that isn't that long ago, glad you FINALLY spoke about it. i hate hate hate that browser and every time i download sketchy apps or cracked free pirated apps, they always have opera gx as "optional" to download, and when choosing to not download it it forces and sneaks itself with the app you're trying to download, an bam, takes ages to uninstall, and even then you'll still have left over shi.
It's rare to find a youtuber who actually researches sponsors. It sucks, because there are youtubers that actually have morals when it comes to sponsors. But, they get drowned out by the influencers that promote anything that pays them. This, in turn seems to cause a general distrust in any youtuber promotion. It must be frustrating for youtubes that actually research and like things they promote.
I remember I had a Wii U and the built in browser on it allowed me to skip ads on youtube. The ads had the same scroll bar as normal videos so I just dragged them to the end to get rid of them. Sadly they fixed it some time around 2015-2017. Not sure when exactly I switched to using a PS4 mainly around that time and came back to it.
@@Mario209Productions younger generations will never know the struggle of deciding whether or not to chance watching corn on the family TV via Wii Browser.
I totally agree. I refuse to use any browser that is Chromium based. I have not found any websites that don't work on Firefox. One of my older PCs has a Celeron and 4gb ram and it still works perfectly fine on it with Win 11 AND Debian.
@@DarkForce2024 Unfortunately google's search engine is still the best I've used so far. Brave was ok i guess. DuckDuck is mediocre but atleast it doesn't ask me to solve 1000 captchas every time i use a vpn or a spoofer.
I used Opera for about a year, and I really liked it. Not really for any of the gaming or safety features, but the fact you could upload images directly with copy and paste no matter what you're uploading it to. I loved it. It's by far the greatest feature. Everything else to me was useless. I decided to switch anyway.
And yet he still implicitly trusts Linux. I'm not saying I particularly care for Mac OS or Windows, but Linux-worshippers (like Muta) need to snap back to reality. Linux is an unstable pipedream that's nearly been taken out by POLITICS multiple times now because its own coders can't even play nice and keep threatening to take the whole thing down. Yeah, sounds REAL great as an alternative to corporate OS's. /s
Yeah I thought it was common knowledge that when TH-camr are shilling something that it is actually trash. Especially when it TH-camrs who aren’t in the specific field of the product (PC TH-camr advertising PC parts)
It's something everyone should realize after scams like Established Titles and Better Health and trashy "games" like Raid Shadow Legends. If a TH-camr sponsors it, one should remember they're only doing the sponsor for money since TH-cam ain't really going to pay a lot unless you were like Mr. Beast or some other big name on this platform and Patreon itself may not really cover everything.
@@RusticRonnie I mean I understand there is money involved but it's just a market of deception, let alone when a product or service is often a key player in vulnerable risk factors like a VPN service, browser or even a physical product
I think that Muta made a mistake by not considering low-resource systems in his tests, because GX Control functionality is *really* helpful on those Disclaimer: this is a very generalised response without talking about specifics of different systems/browsers and their specific architectures, so not all of it may be true for EVERY system+browser combo, obviously. Problem is that most OS schedulers in general consider your browser as a singular entity when deciding to give/limit system resources to it + they usually consider browsers to be high-priority processes, so they place them really low on out-of-memory killer priority list, for example. Which means that in the end essentially OS schedulers almost always diverge most of the resources to your browser unless you're running something even more resource-intense and prioritised in parallel (like a video game, obviously). So in the end you can't really rely on OS schedulers to limit your browser from being a resource hog, because in a lot of cases they will allow it to be. And if you're trying to have another process running, which is less resource-intense than browser, but more important to you - like your work stuff, so for example editors for text (documents/code), images (2D/3D), audio/video, etc - then your OS will feed your resources to your browser instead of your editor, which will suck cause usually you need to mostly do stuff in the editor while only sometimes looking in the browser for research/instructions/etc, so you would prefer your editor to not stutter instead of browser. However, there is a way to actually control it, and that's by controlling browser tabs. But since OS schedulers usually don't delve inside the main process (browser itself), they are unable to kill specific tabs that are hogging resources. But the browser itself can do that. Now lately in recent versions a lot of browsers, even including the bloated giants like Chrome, started implementing automatic tab killers inside their browsers. They basically detect if system resources are low and decide which unfocused tabs are low-priority so they can kill threads of those tabs to free up some resources. The tab remains in your tab list, but it's essentially closed and will be "reopened" when you click on it. This is an insanely useful feature when you need to keep a lot of tabs opened (for research, for example), but have a low-resource system. The problem is though that browser generally try to consider every tab a "high-priority" (which makes sense from "caring about user data" standpoint, they never know, what important stuff can be inputted in the tab and not saved yet) and automated killers only start when absolutely necessary (like when you whole system RAM usage is at 99%, for example). So in the end auto tab killers also don't really limit your browser from being a hog, they mostly just there to save your browser/system from a crash when/if it starts to choke at 99% of capacity. So in the end the ONLY feature that I've seen in modern browsers that can actually force your system to give more resources to "less important than browser" (from OS's POV) things is this GX Control. With it I can avoid the situation "90% of resources is consumed by browser to keep all it's tabs opened, which I don't need, while my work stutters at 10% of resources" and instead can have a situation "hard limited 50% of resources is consumed by browser, forcing it to kill a bunch of tabs, which is fine, and my work lives comfortably with another 50% available, consuming more when needed more (when compiling or rendering, for example)". Ironically all this means that this "gaming" browser is much more useful on a low-resource system (when gamers usually have high-resource ones, as evident by Steam statistics Muta used) used for working instead of gaming (because video games are more resource-intense processes and OS will prioritise giving them resource over browsers, but also will prioritise giving resources to browser over a lot of work software). So the "browser for gamers" is perfect for a grandma's cheap laptop that has like 2GB RAM, a 100 opened browser tabs because she forgets to close them and a Microsoft Word document opened that she needs to edit, because then this GX Control hard RAM limit will actually allow Word to not stutter and work smoothly, while all OS schedulers and auto tab killers won't help. The irony of this mismatch between marketing and actual useful cases is pretty funny, I'll admit. Oh, and ofc, I completely agree with all the other points Muta made, like that Chromium-based browsers are all kinda bloated, like that Opera doesn't show it's source code too openly, like that in the privacy department it's lacking, etc. That's why I personally don't use it on my systems (anymore, besides the time when I had to work from a really old and weak laptop for some time). I just feel like he really didn't consider how useful this GX Control feature is for low-end systems since his main system (obviously) and even his virtual machine that he pulled from Steam stats are pretty high-end. And how actually unique it is, since I don't think any other browser has it, and OS schedulers/auto tab killers, as I explained earlier, are not a full substitute for it. So, IMHO, GX Control is really the killer feature of this browser... but not for gamers. *TL DR: The "browser for gamers" is more suited for gamer's parents or even grandparents, lol.*
6:13 Microsoft Edge is not actually open source, just like Opera GX both are based on chromium which is open source but the layers on top (browser vendor specific features) which make Chrome, Opera GX, Microsoft Edge and other browsers is not open source.
The network rerouting tools (essentially a VPN) can work if your ISP is cheap and chooses cheaper routing options rather than the fastest most direct links (Generally to overseas hosts) so while they may not help you if you're playing multiplayer games in your own region, it can help with certain job types that involve moving/accessing data from overseas, but by that point just purchase a VPN.
2:10 I like how they show that Sneako blocked them as if that's some kind of "own" even though they do the exact same thing if you say anything critical of them lol
As someone that has yet to have an issue with GX, I appreciate that there's a different perspective on it. I don't play any of the games through the browser anyhow and only use it like I use any other browser.
15:13 It can work on memory leaks. I used something like that to reset the RAM usage of programs. My laptop didn't have the memory to run a lot of things so it kept capping out, but I could buy myself an hour on a lot of games by smashing the RAM usage to 0. Obviously the easier solution is to buy another stick of RAM, but if you're poor it's a functionality.
But I think its funny too. I think its the most hilariously implemented feature on a browser I've ever seen. But regardless, as is with all humor, what is "funny" is clearly a subjective matter. So thank you for sharing.
3:22 Nintendo Switch does have a web browser. It’s used to sign in to Wi-FI networks that require a browser to sign in and can be exploited using the switchbru DNS to browse the internet.
I was an Opera GX user but recently switched to vivaldi cause opera gx was fighting me and having slowdowns and glitches (mind you, my PC has a 4070). I had enough and switched. The sole reason I used Opera GX was because of its sidebar where I could use Twitter. After using Vivaldi for a bit, I learned it also has a sidebar. Ever since, I never looked back!
@@radixlinerWhy need to expend 80$+++ in a mechanic keyboard when you can download a browser for free and that's it. And before you say it, 80$ in my country is A LOT of Money.
@@raulivan2103 type noises clicking noises or anything soft sounding effects are basically gunshots to you? if you have ptsd from those, you genuinely deserved it and making things so much more dramatic than what it is, it's like saying that you dropped your cup of water and describing it or telling it to others as the house was flooded
I think you covered this excellently. People who want Opera GX, should do it. If they got charmed by the snake oil salesman lines, then don't. If they like these functions then more power to them. If they fear about Chinese spyware allegations, they shouldn't. I think in spite of the title this is a pretty neutral review, even if you are deeply skeptical of Opera GX. It's a product for people, it may not be for everyone and certainly doesn't have some industry shaking unique advantage but it's a decent browser for those who look for that, at least.
Saying we should just ignore Chinese ownership as it relates to security concerns is insane. No one who works anywhere with valuable intellectual property can even consider this junk.
Old-skool here, well-known on all popular 7 forums as I would fix over 100 stop errors a day, never once had someone buy RAM or RMA RAM unecessarily, and helped out with every other problem under the sun including making custom driver packages for everyone that needed it. (Some chipsets were literally impossible due to the manufacturer itself: I am looking at you NVIDIA code 39 heh heh.) Others doing their thing then on forums, or getting help, etc... you know me even if you don't know me. I would also teach so many others. USASMA was one of my partners in crime. Anyhow - good on you for telling don't let programs get in the way of the OS. That's the right thing to tell, so good on you. Don't forget to rock on and don't lose the wise, truthful approach ever.
Firefox lives by "Unused ram is wasted ram" but it's also quick to discard tabs if you need it. I had over 1k tabs open in firefox and was only using about 1GB on an 8GB system (still had 2GB free ram) counter intuitively I had the least amount of power usage on firefox compared to the rest. I sometimes get to about 5GB used ram on my 32GB system(both under linux and windows). firefox does proportionally use more ram depending on how much you have/how much you need for other tasks.
You had 1,000 tabs open? Holy crap balls. I think the most I've ever had was 6. Normally I have about 3 AT MOST. I don't even think I regularly visit more than 50 different web sites on a regular basis.
@@DarkForce2024I still have 1500 tabs. Stuff trends to happen when Firefox makes it easy by having a scroll list of tabs instead of making each tab ever smaller and less convenient to use like other browsers, which forces you to close tabs.
Just one correction: You can absolutely turn off GX corner, I turned it off on my own client. It functions as a pinned tab all you have to do is right click it and select "seperate tab".
All I’m gonna say is that since I changed over to Opera, which was two weeks ago, I have had a lot of my CPU’s problems go away. They can siphon whatever number munching bullshit they want as long as it works as advertised.
@@DrEpicPhD You should probably stop getting your panties in a mess and start being real, opera GX literally isn't bad, I have been using it ever since 2018 and have had no problems or issues with it, like at all.
firefoxe's ram usage is due to the Gecko web engine, it's not great with RAM, nor releasing RAM. it's why I'm hoping Servo progresses and Mozilla partners to use that
The claim does hold true if you are a tab hoarder.... Basically the REAL primary reason to get the browser is it's chrome... that gives you a button to put your tabs to sleep*... and actually stands a chance of not losing all of your many, many, many tabs. Now if you have good tab hygiene and/or a decent computer with an ample amount of RAM... yeah no... it doesn't really matter. *Other chrome based browsers can and will put tabs to sleep....... when it is absolutely necessary because they have exhausted all of your resources.
@@jkbobful and runs way worse. Especially when you try to watch videos with or without drm. It is so sad. I like the Firefox for its security features but it is terrible for everything more than pure browsing :(
task manager -> details tab -> find the .exe you want to 'boost' and right click -> set priority: high Windows will handle the rest. Most of the time if a game is too hard for a system to run no amount of 'boosting' will help. But prioritizing the game might actually help with crashes and stability issues while lowering the game settings is the 'boost' that really gets those frames going.
The whole reason I deleted it was because it was so SLOW. Like I was trying to download a game that it said would take hours and the download would stop because it was taking so long. Out of desperation I tried Chrome (which I know isn’t great, but I already had it) and it only took 5 minutes. Switched to Firefox and haven’t looked back. Runs all my extensions and I can have a custom background
If chrome isnt that great but it worked for you then why say its not great? in this scenario it was more optimal, the things that are wrong with chrome don't really apply here
How is that even an argument Yes, in this situation chrome's flaws didn't matter but do you only use a browser to specifically download files? Like what.@@PhoenixAscension554
Opera GX when I used it, started to cause crashing on my PC, I know it was the app because the crashing only occured when I had it installed. Each time I removed it, the crashing stopped. I did find out that despite me uninstalling it, it was still hidden on my PC, as it would appear to be reinstalled shortly after. I had to nuke all traces of it.
@@UnworthyCretion I went into the C Drive and deleted every folder within my program files/user documents. There was also a shortcut for the app that was hidden inside a folder, I had to delete that manually. I did use TreeSize at one point to clean up additional files, but I don't think it's required.
I switched from Opera GX to Firefox back when Google wanted to kill adblock addons on Chromium browsers. I don't miss it in the slightest, especially given that projects such as Firefox GX exist, which makes your Firefox browser look like Opera GX, which was the only thing I actually liked about Opera GX in comparison to other browsers.
@@sarkaztik3228 Firefox is completely fine with regards to resource usage imho (and in using it overall), plus it's not under the control of the biggest ad company in the world, which all Chromium based browsers are.
@@sarkaztik3228 I mean you say that, but I frequently mess with the about:config in the Developer Edition and as a result have gotten the RAM usage to be comparable to when I was using Opera GX. As for the "Chromium handles it better" argument, I don't doubt it's the case overall, but I have found that Firefox is overall more stable as you can turn off the Windows "Eco Mode" (which itself states causes instability) setting that Chromium doesn't let you do without launch arguments. All that being said, I am not going to even entertain the idea of not having an adblock like uBlock Origin, and the only way to guarantee such is to not be at all linked to the Chromium browser engine. If Firefox *was* just another "Chromium but with another coat of paint" browser, then I very much would not be dying on this hill.
You can’t say that the CPU/RAM limiter is a “marketing gimmick” if it’s actually killing processes and doing what it’s supposed to, which you showed it doing that…
If you want the GX Corner to be gone from the Taskbar, all you have to do is enable the (one and only) slider that was highlighted when you searched for it in the settings. That's it, that's how you get rid of it.
I wish you touched upon Vivaldi, which was made by the Co-Founder and then CEO of Opera. There had to be a reason beyond "oh Opera shut down their forum so they just up and left" which is what wikipedia basically states. If the CEO decided it would be better to start over with a more security focused browser than to stay at his current company, I'm sure there were more reasons than the one I mentioned.
Vivaldi is just another chromium browser, not gonna touch it anymore then i would Chrome or Opera. Firefox is the only option anymore if you won't want Google or M$ hard-R'ing your data. (Firefox isn't perfect, just better.)
@@exidy-ytyou can properly setup ungoogled chromium to have the same security and privacy as firefox. Chromium actually has better sandboxing than firefox aswell.
I looked into this claim, that's not actually what the ad blocker does. It is running that code to block the content coming from the weird links that was shown into their ad block. No need to spread the misinformation Been using Opera for a year, never had issues or malware on my PC or anything like that. Please look into yo7r claims before claiming a browser is injecting stuff into websites when it's not and is quick Google search on their forums disproves that / explains that "claim"
@@JaymeSplendid At that time I worked as a pentester, one of my colleagues also pentester showed that he has sites open with a large picture of the Ukrainian flag embedded in them (we are from Russia) as we are all security experts it was not difficult to trace that it is an injected by Opera extension, by the way one of the heads of Opera security is known for his interesting actions, if the flag is not terrible, but the possibility that you can insert any script is not safe and loss of trust.
They've been a few channels who has been talking about how terrible Opera GX is for the last 3 or 4 years, but the Cult of Opera GX do the best they can do to label those video as "haters"
What I like about Opera GX is the screenshot feature where you can screenshot a portion of the page and also the feature when you copy an image and upload it you can choose the picture on your clipboard so you wont have to download the picture if you want to upload ot just copy and youre good to go
This is a windows feature there's literally a button on your keyboard for it. If you press print screen and make a selection it will automatically save the image to clipboard
Hi! When you showed your neofetch output I saw you only had one gpu, the rtx 4090, but when you opened virt-manager I also saw you had that gpu passed trough to the win11 virtual machine. I wanted to ask you if you share your gpu between the host and the guest or you figured a way to partition your gpu underneath linux?
I remember the bad old days when my new iPhone 3G (and the 3g service itself) was so slow I had to use Opera Mobile because it was barebones. This abomination is nothing like that.
3g is what you call the bad old days? dont do, or not do, solely because of what you heard from someone else. you dont really have to eat all your vegetables, but it makes everything else taste better in comparison. without bad days, good days will just feel like normal days, and get boring when you forget how to appreciate them. do all your homework right away so you have more time for yourself later without the feeling of dread about still having to do it.
Seems like they don't know what real gamers need. A slick slim small not very demanding fast browser, with a clever user interface, that does not spy on you, that doesn't stack up bigger and bigger growing files about your behaviour and/or whatever.
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Huh
@UTTPRichBitcoinmancreep
report the bot
14 hours ago?
you know what would be ironic? if he was sponsored by Opera GX on this video...
"Gaming browser" carries the same weight as "blinker fluid"
Electricity is blinker fluid
AND ESO GOLD ROAD IS GOOD SO YOU SHOULD PLAY THAT ITS BEEN OUT FOR ALMOST A MONTH NOW
I have a box of that next to my chem light fluid. Gotta keep them near each other or I might lose one.
more like headlight fluid
@@unseenreaper3and elbow grease
I don't trust computer, there's a lot of backdoor and vulnerability in the hardwares... And that's why I use only Stones🗿
Computers are made out of Stones 🗿
average linux user mindset
Finally, this guy's speaking the truth
@@Dexcalibur420funny stone move data 🗿
Way to real ooga booga
As a rule of thumb, I generally slowly stop using free/freemium products that somehow sponsor a shit ton of influencers, not for any grand or particular reason, just feels like something's wrong.
Also, a "gaming" anything just doesn't make sense, look at every "gaming" products, the mid-range or used professional grade equivalents are much much better options.
@steins1457 The only product I would be ok with the "gaming" tag would be gaming mice. I do like having extra buttons(also useful for regular things, especially with macros) and having higher dpi. That's about it though. I still use the plain old 90s mechanical keyboards and plain jane office chairs because of comfort, durability, and cost. The only problem with my keyboard is the ever coming end of the mini-din connectors on the computers and parts themselves.
In the last few years I basically migrated most of my things to open source alternatives, be it the OS, browser, music player, etc...
I have a dual boot setup where I just get into windows to play video games and everything else I do under Linux.
@@seaweeb2258and monitors!
@@steins1457 It's not gaming. It's gambling~
This video can seemingly be summarized by the age old adages "don't believe salesmen" and "If you're connected to the internet, you're vulnerable". The gamer branding is just a marketing approach that imo is pretty clever, because outside of huge nerds, you need something to distinguish your browser from Chrome and Edge even though they're all essentially the same browser.
Ok Opera employee, i'm not downloading it anyways
@@misterputin8898you don't have proof they are
@@misterputin8898how is he a opera employee bruh
There is a bad bot problem here. If you see a bot, DON'T REPLY, REPORT.
TH-cam doesn't care about it since they don't lose money
this is a universal thing with youtube. I'm surprised what some of them are getting away with
@@williamdrum9899 TH-cam removes my comments constantly, I'm surprised those don't get removed
I don’t think reporting even works either, they spread from that too
Bots are a protected class on youtube, they can do things you and I can't. They can say things you can't, they can exist without ban, which you can't. TH-cam IS IN ON IT.
At the end of the day, every browser is spying on you no matter how much they claim that privacy is important to them. It's just a matter of picking the one that you hate the least.
Librewolf, and the other privacy-respective Firefox forks do not spy actually.
@@reduxflakes How do you know for sure?
@@FourtyFifth The source code is available, and if you check, for example, Librewolf network traffic, it just checks for software & extension updates.
@@reduxflakes you dont know that
@@FourtyFifthWhile you can't ever be sure about the intentions and security of a product or company (hence the term "the most secure computer is one that doesn't even turn on"), we can make approximations about the credibility of their claims. In the video, muta mentioned 2 very well respected pages that show privacy wise what browsers have the best anti ad/tracking functionality and minimal telemetry; Privacytests and SizeofCat's post on web browser telemetry. Librewolf, Mullvad and Tor Project performed best due to their exceptional capabilities that help minimize fingerprinting and revealing unique identifiers that can make your device more apparent. These aren't empty claims, you CAN verify this by checking the active connections said browser does through your ports or in a firewall. Why do you think Tor Project is always used by journalists, foreigners, people of interest or individuals being targeted by the government? It HAS this reputation for a reason, and these privacy respecting browsers have been audited and independently checked.
Of course, with how fast technology has progressed people don't even know how thorough spyware, telemetry and other metadata collector methods are. If you simply use Windows you're f***ed. If you use google's search engine you're f***ed. If you use Android, bought out by google you're f***ed. Personally, I want to minimize this collection as much as possible, not because "I have something to hide", but because I care about not having my PERSONAL, PRIVATE data being sold out to malicious brokers that seem to think people want to buy their products.
So, while it seems that everything is spying on us (and yes, they certainly are), this is willful ignorance. There are so many open source, regularly audited, decentralized alternatives to common apps and programs that you can use yet people are too ignorant to do the switch or just assume "its pointless". It's impossible to completely lock down your computer, and it's also impossible to be completely spied on. Personally, I'm choosing the latter.
1:20 skip sponsor
thank you
get the extension "sponserblock"
@@9k011 extensions don’t exist on mobile
They do with youtube revanced@@alex-q8-q9
@@alex-q8-q9 afaik revanced/uyou+ (on ios) have sponsorblock built in
In terms of the limiters, I think it's geared toward people with less-than-average specs, or people with games that aren't very optimized. There's going to be something that suffers, and the limiter effectively works as a more in-depth and customizable priority option.
I had a computer that would max out the cpu when using chrome, I was forced to use Opera and a limiter to even watch a video on youtube. it sucked. it's definitely for the cheaper computers to be able to run stuff without burning the house down
Real question is are there still people that trust Google Chrome?
I do use Chrome and I enjoy it
Probably enough to use it
Yes, ignorance & indifference.
No, that's whataboutism
youd be surprised and somewhat disappointed
In this video, Muta said "obviously" 21 times, "again" 40 times, and "actual" 51 times
I’m sure this is very informative for someone on the internet
@@Zynphii Yea and that someone might already be bloating out their liver cuz of all the shots they've been taking
ty
I saw your post right when he said obviously.
56 toothpicks 56 toothpicks on the floor there are 56 toothpicks
Microsoft Edge is NOT Open Source. The repository is only a license and readme file.
microsoft edge is probably the complete opposite with microsoft forcing windows to have it by default. What is the majority of people gonna do when they have a free web browser already installed? lots of free data marketed towards clueless people. probably worse than chrome
@@lukeluneven worse, they market it as “privacy friendly” to lure people back in. I miss the old Edge, it was simple and (surprisingly) light, and EdgeHTML was an interesting concept in a Gecko/Blink/Webkit triopoly.
Chrome and Edge are based on Chromium, the apparent Open Source err source
@@lukelun ... MS owns windows. What do you mean "forcing"?
it actually is semi-open source because its based on chrominum
I'm using Opera GX not bcs it's a "gamer browser" or bcs "it's safe"(nothing related to the internet is safe. not even VPNs.), I use it cus that's the only browser which doesn't lag my laptop and doesn't require a sht ton of memory to function...
Check Chromium. That has been better in RAM than any other browser I USE. Each person is going to be different with what hardware they are running and what custom extensions they may use.
i love the bg music
firefox has much better RAM management, its what I used to use before I got a gaming pc
@@chaska8144 depends quite a bit on what you're using your browser for. For example I changed to Edge a while back beacause I used to have Twitch on my side monitor all the time. Chrome and Firefox were using stupid amounts of ram for Twitch but Edge didn't (maybe it got fixed in recent years not sure).
@@chaska8144 you can set your ram limit with gx
I love how there was audio of music playing in the background at the start of the video. Just loud enough that it made me look out my window to see who was so happy to share their music while in their car outside my house.
Huh?
@@amejade He was tricked by the video's audio into thinking a car outside was playing loud music. You can do this by cutting everything but the bass out of a given audio track and maybe putting a slight delay on it, and other tricks such as mid-side processing to make it sound like it's coming from outside the speakers/ behind your head.
@@matturner6890 oh ok that makes sense, thank you
@@amejade
I'm a former Opera GX user, I switched to Brave 6 months ago and haven't miss Opera since
Brave > Chrome and Firefox is reserved for TOR. Left opera years ago because it was a stupid browser. Now I find out it's spyware straight from china.
@clementinesoup yes it does!
@clementinesoup yes
@clementinesoup yep it's built in and works better than chrome extensions did for me before I switched
@clementinesoup It does, I made the same switch, and from my experience, Brave's Ad block is much better.
Also quick note: Their mobile version of GX is a barebones normal browser. Not similar to the PC version if you're curious about memory limiting features or the funky filters.
The only thing good about the mobile version is the adblocker,and even that is ass
Yeah, brave mobile browser does way better at even the adblocker
Ive used brave for years and I never see ads.
@@highNOTER I've never had an issue with the ad blocker or anything I use Opera GX on everything
@@justinmabb1997 yeah for the most part but some website detect the AdBlock and even if the AdBlock is off, it's still detect it, I hope it was as reliable as Ublock extension
well ,the Switch does have a browser built in, youre just not allowed to use it.
the switch itself only opens it, if you conect to a hotspot requiring a login website and closes it as soon as it has internet.
you can activate it by messing with network settings as well but it has a time limit
Or anything that would open a browser in my experience. Such as your example, links in the eshop, or sometimes online games will link to an outside website.
11:00 Those "gaming" filters give off the same vibe as the widgets you could download to turn your cursor into a flaming sword.
one widget "matrix thing" on new tab doesn't do anything, but eat up your ram
one widget "matrix thing" on new tab doesn't do anything, but eat up your ram
The flaming sword cursor is essential tbh
flaming sword cursor is radical yall are just haters
@@klinxium8627 Windows XP bling rule
As a Firefox heavy user, a RAM limiter and better identification of CPU-hogging tabs is something I'd definitely like to see.
try the about:processes page (you can see a list of all available "about" pages at about:about)
Firefox has a process manager at about:processes and it's been there for a long time
@@Musikvidedo And if I ever felt the need for a process manager that completely sucks at fulfilling it's core purpose of attributing CPU usage to what is causing it 90% of the time, that's what I would use.
Man I love firefox
You just got told why this is at best snake oil and you still want it for your browser that turned out to be the most resource heavy, and likely is one of the worst in terms of feature support, lacking the monetary weight behind chromium. Ask yourself again if it's not just being a contrarian or betting on the underdog.
My main complaint about modern Opera is that it stopped using its own Presto rendering engine and just decided to follow the crowd and switch to Chromium, and I'm a web dev who made my bones during the IE6 vs Firefox days right before the first version of Google Chrome dropped when IE-only HTML and CSS on websites was the norm and I sometimes had to fight to even get clients to consider _Safari_ users as well before the iPhone released.
IE-only code. Man, you unlocked some memories there, thanks. I'd make IE6 functional, but I recall adding disclaimers to the bottom of my sites that it "worked best in Firefox," lol.
This is also my main complaint with Opera GX, not because it uses Chromium in the first place, but because it does so in a poor manner. I've found that some websites have functions that simply don't work on my Opera GX but work just fine on any other browser including Google Chrome, so there are times where I end up having to use different browsers anyway which kind of sucks because I use Opera specifically as a less bloated alternative to Chrome.
@@GigaLigma You use operagx as a less bloated alternative to chrome? lol
I became an Opera user in 2002 and I stuck with the last presto version as long as I possibly could. Then I moved to Firefox, a browser I thought I would never end up using. Still with Firefox.
You claim to be a web Dev and don't know, that Chromium based browsers use the Blink engine? That's very... interesting 🤔!
I gotta be honest, the only reasons I use Ogx for are the sound effects and youtube music in the sidebar.
REAL, the only reason I use Opera GX is because of the video pop out
How do they make enough money to sponsor every TH-camr if they aren’t selling your data to someone?
ever heard of company sponsorships? ad revenue? you think how does edge stay in business, and every other social media platforms and other browers like brave fuck even firefox, you think how do they stay in business?
@@Shrimpyyysssprobably by selling my data. I just assume that’s what all free products do.
They do not earn enough from partnerships and they don't have ads at all. It's a pathetic attempt at an excuse for their blatant data selling
@@Shrimpyyysssedge is Microsoft so it’s the default browser for windows. Chrome is Google and sells your data and tries to integrate your browser with their other services, Firefox is run by Mozilla, which funds itself through some non-targeted and unobtrusive ads on the home page but is owned by a nonprofit focused on open source and consumer privacy
@@ShrimpyyysssEdge stays in business because it’s backed by Microsoft, and we all know Microsoft’s market cap and track records regarding privacy. As for other browsers such as Brave or Firefox, they’re both open source and under the Mozilla Public License, which means other people can contribute to the project and reduce the costs required by their actual company, and the rest of the costs can be easily covered by distribution deals with various search engines
I never understood why we need a "gaming" browser anyways. Then again, cynical branding works if your marketing is good enough...
I like the throttling features when I had bad internet it made it easier to run youtube for music while I gamed online
Well I guess if you want a browser running in the background, for easy access and that doesn't use a ton of system resources. But I've never seen the point personally.
The same reason why we have "gaming" chair, to capitalize on people hobbies.
@@eternia-reginleifYep awful chairs that sell because of marketing
I like the GX corner aspect to get up to date info on games rather quickly, it's convenient.
Many keep saying "leave that, get this" and little by little we are finding out "this" is sketchy.
This is why I refuse to use Brave. Why would I support some crypto scam?
So true bestie
@UTTPRichBitcoinmanwtf is wrong with you
@@yami2828it’s a bot, don’t engage
@@yami2828 All the UTTP accounts are bots/trolls. It's become a real problem in the last few months.
i use opera gx because i saw an ad for it in like 2021 and have used it since. i dont switch cuz it looks cool. i dont give a shit about the bot clone they made of me in china that has all my data. it just looks cool and it has all my stuff on it. i kinda hate this browser elitism saying that "your always volnurable" no shit bro your connected to the internet of course everyone sees your data. just use what looks cool.
What's your social security number?
This. Everytime I changed my browser someone pointed it was bad for my privacy. Every single one. I just stopped caring. Worst that can happen is some scam emails that are just easy to recognize and ignore.
@@billjacobs521imagine thinking everyone lives in the US 😂
@@Li5ek his comment was obbiously a joke
@@Hamster-qm6py Dont tell them, its funnier that way.
Opera GX twitter admin in shambles rn
These bots are annoying as fuck
@@sosig1393apparently uttp is mostly humans
@GHOSTSTARSCREAM google it.
@UTTPRichBitcoinman ight bro
@UTTPRichBitcoinman How's that loneliness taste?
Yeah, Opera was obtained by a Chinese company and near that time people left Opera and created the company Vivaldi which created the semi-open-source browser called Vivaldi.
doesn't matter, browser boasts about how much bloat it adds to a browser, who the fuck wants to download that shit
Is that browser good?
Opera as a whole was acquired, including the development teams. However, in 2022, the Chinese consortium sold its shares, and Opera has since committed to repurchasing American Depository Shares to re-establish its corporate autonomy. This indicates a move away from Chinese ownership, but the full implications for development and data privacy remain to be seen.
🤞🏼🤞🏼
currently reading this on vivaldi rn
What is semi-open-source lol
The first time I heard about Opera was in 2011 in middle school when we had ipod touches. Opera was the work around we found to access facebook, twitter, and messaging apps on the schools wifi since that was all restricted otherwise on the network
Ahh good times in middle school 😅
@@UC559 damn i'm still in middle entering high next year 😁😁
@@LEYTHLEGACYno one cares
@@Suatselwhy so hostile?
@@Suatsel What did my guy do 😭 😭
me watching this on opera gx
me right now
me rn
me rn
me rn
So that's either 1 getting their data stolen and four bots responding, or five getting harvested
I use firefox and brave.
Youre going to get spied on no matter what, but being able to launch a browser and use it and have it not take 6.5 galactic years before it pops up as an unresponsive white screen is whats important to me until something comes out that actually works, quickly at that, and actually protects my privacy in a meaningful way.
life was simple when i used firefox
Firefox actually is probably one of the safest browsers on the internet. Using it with Ublock Origin and Sponsorblock probably makes it the safest, period. Firefox and UBlock help block tracking cookies and Firefox has a bunch more built in security than any other browser thanks to being not based on chromium.
Also Opera GX tracks your exact latitude and longitude regardless of tracking settings so.
Are you on a HDD by any chance? I've only had firefox do that to me when my system was still on a HDD.
If that is how your opera starts then I have bad news for you man, that's not an opera issue that's a your pc issue
Upgrade your pc then
0:02 - "ladies and germany" mutahar, 2024
I’m finally included.
@@randompersonh Same here wohooo lets go!
Der Schwarm erobert alles.
Lesgo
We don't have ladies in Germany. Just lads.
I don't trust anything gaming-themed.
It's all just cheaply effective marketing.
Maybe besides "gaming" computer mice, cause the "non-gaming" ones are generally terrible, unless you spare like 120$ for one...
If randomly youtubers are pushing something to you. The product is 1000% low quality.
The only time I trust a TH-camr ad is when the TH-cam channel is in the same field as the product.
I had a gaming flavoured pepsi max a while ago. Are you saying this had no effect on my k/d? 😂
@@peterpop-off bro no soft drink is gonna increase your k/d only solution to that is git gud and maybe better hardware if you have a potato
@@randomstranger489 Bro didn't get it💀💀💀💀
@@randomstranger489 Pretty sure I'm mentally not so normal, yet even I got the joke...
i honestly only use it and love it because of the tab management system they have, i was able to create a work, university, movies and hobbies category and i can quickly just have the specific topic open and focus on work only for example and keep all the tabs i know i might need to look back at.
You can do that with actual plugins for most browsers.
I will say it : a sponsor from opera gx on this specific video would have been hillarious
I got an ad for it before the video
if he did this other sponsors would be reluctant to offer him cus he basically robbed opera by doing so
In terms of the GX corner, how I found to disable it is quite simple, and you did half the steps when you were first talking about it. You toggle the setting to kick it to the sidebar, right click it from the sidebar and click "hide GX corner". You can still access it through the settings or by searching the page's url, but it's no longer clogging up the UI.
Thanks, didn't know i could hide it xd
@@TerraPlayOMG Dumb UI designs like that are always a pain, so I make it a point to find a way to fix it and share it lol. Glad I could help
thank you good sir
I've used every single browser and I find this one to be the better of them all and I had no problem killing the GX corner or using the VPN or any of that stuff.. but you really do need to go through everything and customize it all
Okay, that's how to HIDE it, but how do you DISABLE it?
I like that you said “big superhero companies like Vaught International” as though it’s a real company
Is Vaught really that bad compared to some of our real world companies? coughnestlecoughchiquitacough
@@oscardalmatiner8724 Yes???? by a pretty fucking large margin actually
@@oscardalmatiner8724 well, yes, they *are* worse than real world companies, but the entire point of the show (not the comics) is that we’re rapidly approaching that point. Vought is basically what Disney will become in a few years if nothing changes.
I didn't get the reference at first, I guess it's from a tv show. The last thing I want from a freaking browser is an ad deal with Amazon.
in the show, vaught is shown as not very trustworthy, if just straight up awful
At this point web browsers feel like a "pick your poison" scenario in terms of privacy
your best bets are probably tor, firefox, or brave
I went down the rabbit hole of privacy browsing, it comes at the cost of functionality. I mostly use google for everyday browsing, anything I don’t want on my name I switch to brave browser, but tbh your isp is the biggest problem if you care about privacy, you could run a vpn but then they become the problem, it gets to the point where you could make your own vpn or use linux on a usb stick and use different machines every time because they use machine settings to identify you, the size of your screen, the wallpaper you use, the operating system you run etc. can all be used in conjunction to identify a user without technically identifying them. Don’t worry too much though your a small number in a massive system, idc if google shows me ads about certain things I said in my browser, I look at it as helping me out. You wanna know something you should never do, get them ancestry dna tests, imagine in the future figuring out your genes are more likely to cause a certain cancer so they increase the price of your insurance. Stay safe don’t get too worked up about it 😂
@@Ardoy9761 Mullvad and LibreWolf are also excellent choices. However, the only browser I fully trust and am confident does not collect any data is Tor, even though I rarely use it
@@Ardoy9761ive never used brave and plan on trying it but firefox has been my main browser for years ivr never switched the only time i used a different browser is when i had to format my pc firefox has one of the best adblockers too which made me an even bigger fan
@@Ardoy9761 tor is very specialized and can be seen as sus by many countries, Firefox is not private out of the box, Brave got their scandals too both with their browser and search.
2:28 “and you’ve probably seen massive collaborations with big superhero companies like Vought International.”
I appreciate Muta giving Vought the respect it deserves as a multinational corporation that’s integral to our economy.
Fuch firecracker!
@@chikoavena3407must be a Starlight commie. How many kids do YOU have in your basement?
Would you like a Fresca?
pee sauna
What kills me is people who are sponsored by Opera GX don't use it on Stream.
Only streamer i saw was imls
Moistcritical does
charlie does
@@jacobfolk9192 yeah because he has to if he wants to keep his fake tidy image, I guarantee you his personal PC is running stock chrome like all the sane people do
@@ethanwasme4307 no sane person uses chrome
the term "gaming browser" should make everyone cringe by default - if it was made for gaming it would actually cost something and it would cost more than their competitors "casual browsers" and upon opening your fifth browser tab youd get asked to please buy the "premium task package" for another $2,49/month
no no, that would be if it was made by EA
True, opera being chinese would instead turn tabs into gacha. What tab are you pulling next? Oop, you're out of free pulls! Pay your entire life savings now for 200 pulls!
acting likle other browsers don't sell ur data
sybau
i also dont trust opera gx because when a company advertises themselves so much they probably also steal information
They were bought by a Chinese company, what else do you expect?
@UTTPRichBitcoinman who asked
Like pretty much every corporation, website, device, service, or government does? Do you have a phone? Congrats, your biometric data is buyable to those who want it.
@@samumixofficial @officialsamumix The company is still in Norway and still must adhere to the legal privacy standards of Norway... which are a great GREAT deal stronger than US privacy laws. I mean obviously they take some your of info, just less than Chrome or Edge. They make most of their money from the built in affiliate links on their speed dial pages. If you follow the link they give you to amazon, eBay, Walmart, Booking, etc. every purchase you make gives Opera a kickback.
No one advertises something that is free without massive strings attached.
On the topic of browser performance while gaming there are basically only two important features:
- the ability to suspend/hibernate tabs
- correct use of GPU video acceleration for minimum CPU usage while having YT on the second screen
And that is done by many browsers nowadays.
The one thing that I think Muta got wrong is about the GX Corner.
While yes, you cannot remove the tab, the tab is not actually "active" so it doesnt actually take from the system resources as far as I know.
When I start Opera GX, it immediately opens a tab with the Speed Dial. It doesnt open the GX Corner. The GX Corner doesnt start working and it doesnt become a real tab UNTIL you click on it. After that it stays active, however you can just turn off the browser and reopen it so it deactivates.
You can remove the tab by switching it to the sidebar, righ-clicking on it and pressing the first option (I think it's called "Hide GX Corner")
that's how every tab works on every browser, Muta was not wrong, it is just another tab
@@charautreal my point is, he kept saying that the tab consumes resources no matter if its open or not, that is wrong.
The tab doesnt activate until you click on it.
He explained it as if the tab consumes resources all the time. That is not the case.
I know that its a tab.
@@rattlingus i dont know what to tell you, when its closed on my machine it doesnt take resources. Only if it was already clicked.
the quantum tab
So basically:
1) There's not much performance difference across browsers.
2) Opera has some extra features that some may or may not find useful.
3) 26:24 here's a 2 minute scroll of a privacy test on some browesers.
4) Opera doesn't sell your data to anyone because that's illegal.
I honestly think this video didn't need to be almost 40 minutes long. Most of it was spent on saying you don't care about the extra features it has and the fact that the performance is similar to other browsers. I clicked for the privacy concerns you hinted at by the title that you only ever adressed 25 minutes in. And even the browser you use, brave (if I understood correctly) isn't even that good at it if you compare it with that Tor one.
Essentially if you like how opera gx looks and how customisable it is, try it out and even if you don't think you'll find much use of certain features, that's no reason to dislike the browser. If you don't like the aesthetic that's fine, there's many browsers to choose from.
As a European company Opera probably won't be selling your info to any Chinese, American, European or whatever governments and companies.
If privacy is the only thing you care about to the point that browser customizability doesn't concern, just get Tor since apparently no other browser does that as well.
man thx i was only worried about the data stuff tbh since alot of passwords are stored here but tbh i dont even care about performance i always close browsers when gaming
well here I am watching this on Opera GX
Same feels bad lol
@UTTPRichBitcoinman Im curious what are you trying to achieve by commenting theese thing on videos and why only on SOG?
@UTTPRichBitcoinmanur literally jeffrey epstein
Bro is infesting Charlie's comment sections as well
I was 10 min ago am now a brave user
Those fucking sound effects I thought was some sound OUTSIDE of my headset & I had to take off my cans to listen...
Already thought there is a shootout a street away lmao
The purpose of Opera GX is for casuals with low-to-mid spec systems to get better performance for their games, at the expense of their browsing performance, when any other browser would only give them the option to kill the process entirely. My girlfriend plays games like Minecraft, Sims, and etc on her laptop, and to minimize the lag on her games, she had to close her browser entirely. With Opera GX, she just caps the browser to the lowest settings, and given she's not using it anyway until she alt-tabs to it, the loss of browser performance does not impact her during gaming sessions.
Opera GX is not a bad browser and it does offer things competitors do not offer. Their main sin is try-hardy marketing. Most "hardcore gamers" are going to have the specs to run their games plus whatever else they feel like in the background. But most gamers, in general, are not "hardcore," so Opera GX is aimed at making their experience better. Plus giving them that sense of being "real gamers" due to the company's branding.
Just use Vivaldi
Bro the cap doesnt fucking work
so you're telling me, that the solution to gaming while having a browser open that you're not using, is to limit its resources, and not click the giant "X" button on the top right corner of the browser?
@@DeerJerky You do not receive notifications if your browser is closed, and alt-tabbing to use it is faster than opening it up from scratch, then loading the website you want to use. Especially if you're following a tutorial or walkthrough.
How much did they pay you?
god i know im late but 2 months ago?! that isn't that long ago, glad you FINALLY spoke about it. i hate hate hate that browser and every time i download sketchy apps or cracked free pirated apps, they always have opera gx as "optional" to download, and when choosing to not download it it forces and sneaks itself with the app you're trying to download, an bam, takes ages to uninstall, and even then you'll still have left over shi.
And yet people keep biting onto the "Opera GX" browser TH-cam sponsorship.
@UTTPRichBitcoinman What are you even trying to say?
Original message: Redacted due to unsafe content.
It's rare to find a youtuber who actually researches sponsors. It sucks, because there are youtubers that actually have morals when it comes to sponsors. But, they get drowned out by the influencers that promote anything that pays them. This, in turn seems to cause a general distrust in any youtuber promotion. It must be frustrating for youtubes that actually research and like things they promote.
@@4bSix86f61 its a bot
@@4bSix86f61it's a bot, just report it and hopefully TH-cam does something
@@4bSix86f61 UTTP bot, they spam comments on peoples videos all the time.
I remember I had a Wii U and the built in browser on it allowed me to skip ads on youtube. The ads had the same scroll bar as normal videos so I just dragged them to the end to get rid of them. Sadly they fixed it some time around 2015-2017. Not sure when exactly I switched to using a PS4 mainly around that time and came back to it.
I remember the Wii U internet browser. Loved that feature. Watching videos on that was the best.
@Mario209Productions yeah because of it I actively used it over the built in TH-cam app. Plus console TH-cam apps have a terrible layout.
@@Mario209Productions younger generations will never know the struggle of deciding whether or not to chance watching corn on the family TV via Wii Browser.
Firefox + ublock is all you need
Screw everything else
I totally agree. I refuse to use any browser that is Chromium based. I have not found any websites that don't work on Firefox. One of my older PCs has a Celeron and 4gb ram and it still works perfectly fine on it with Win 11 AND Debian.
@@DarkForce2024 Unfortunately google's search engine is still the best I've used so far. Brave was ok i guess. DuckDuck is mediocre but atleast it doesn't ask me to solve 1000 captchas every time i use a vpn or a spoofer.
Firefox is wonky on pc. Doesn't allow me to scroll down all the channels. Otherwise I'd make it my default. Until then arc browser is my favorite
True
@@vash254 arc is proprietary trash
I used Opera for about a year, and I really liked it. Not really for any of the gaming or safety features, but the fact you could upload images directly with copy and paste no matter what you're uploading it to. I loved it. It's by far the greatest feature. Everything else to me was useless. I decided to switch anyway.
Tbh at this point I’d be floored to see a video where Muda trusts something.
like linux?
Read about safety issues on linux
@@reko8324 it's still many many times better than windows or mac
And yet he still implicitly trusts Linux.
I'm not saying I particularly care for Mac OS or Windows, but Linux-worshippers (like Muta) need to snap back to reality.
Linux is an unstable pipedream that's nearly been taken out by POLITICS multiple times now because its own coders can't even play nice and keep threatening to take the whole thing down.
Yeah, sounds REAL great as an alternative to corporate OS's.
/s
@@reko8324that's fearmongering from soydevs
People and even TH-camrs sponsored it, i know not to take it serious
Yeah I thought it was common knowledge that when TH-camr are shilling something that it is actually trash.
Especially when it TH-camrs who aren’t in the specific field of the product (PC TH-camr advertising PC parts)
It's something everyone should realize after scams like Established Titles and Better Health and trashy "games" like Raid Shadow Legends. If a TH-camr sponsors it, one should remember they're only doing the sponsor for money since TH-cam ain't really going to pay a lot unless you were like Mr. Beast or some other big name on this platform and Patreon itself may not really cover everything.
@UTTPRichBitcoinmanI hope this is a sting operation account
@arkun_2002 omg I thought u were replying to GamingCeo420
@@RusticRonnie I mean I understand there is money involved but it's just a market of deception, let alone when a product or service is often a key player in vulnerable risk factors like a VPN service, browser or even a physical product
I think that Muta made a mistake by not considering low-resource systems in his tests, because GX Control functionality is *really* helpful on those
Disclaimer: this is a very generalised response without talking about specifics of different systems/browsers and their specific architectures, so not all of it may be true for EVERY system+browser combo, obviously.
Problem is that most OS schedulers in general consider your browser as a singular entity when deciding to give/limit system resources to it + they usually consider browsers to be high-priority processes, so they place them really low on out-of-memory killer priority list, for example. Which means that in the end essentially OS schedulers almost always diverge most of the resources to your browser unless you're running something even more resource-intense and prioritised in parallel (like a video game, obviously). So in the end you can't really rely on OS schedulers to limit your browser from being a resource hog, because in a lot of cases they will allow it to be.
And if you're trying to have another process running, which is less resource-intense than browser, but more important to you - like your work stuff, so for example editors for text (documents/code), images (2D/3D), audio/video, etc - then your OS will feed your resources to your browser instead of your editor, which will suck cause usually you need to mostly do stuff in the editor while only sometimes looking in the browser for research/instructions/etc, so you would prefer your editor to not stutter instead of browser.
However, there is a way to actually control it, and that's by controlling browser tabs. But since OS schedulers usually don't delve inside the main process (browser itself), they are unable to kill specific tabs that are hogging resources. But the browser itself can do that.
Now lately in recent versions a lot of browsers, even including the bloated giants like Chrome, started implementing automatic tab killers inside their browsers. They basically detect if system resources are low and decide which unfocused tabs are low-priority so they can kill threads of those tabs to free up some resources. The tab remains in your tab list, but it's essentially closed and will be "reopened" when you click on it. This is an insanely useful feature when you need to keep a lot of tabs opened (for research, for example), but have a low-resource system.
The problem is though that browser generally try to consider every tab a "high-priority" (which makes sense from "caring about user data" standpoint, they never know, what important stuff can be inputted in the tab and not saved yet) and automated killers only start when absolutely necessary (like when you whole system RAM usage is at 99%, for example). So in the end auto tab killers also don't really limit your browser from being a hog, they mostly just there to save your browser/system from a crash when/if it starts to choke at 99% of capacity.
So in the end the ONLY feature that I've seen in modern browsers that can actually force your system to give more resources to "less important than browser" (from OS's POV) things is this GX Control. With it I can avoid the situation "90% of resources is consumed by browser to keep all it's tabs opened, which I don't need, while my work stutters at 10% of resources" and instead can have a situation "hard limited 50% of resources is consumed by browser, forcing it to kill a bunch of tabs, which is fine, and my work lives comfortably with another 50% available, consuming more when needed more (when compiling or rendering, for example)".
Ironically all this means that this "gaming" browser is much more useful on a low-resource system (when gamers usually have high-resource ones, as evident by Steam statistics Muta used) used for working instead of gaming (because video games are more resource-intense processes and OS will prioritise giving them resource over browsers, but also will prioritise giving resources to browser over a lot of work software).
So the "browser for gamers" is perfect for a grandma's cheap laptop that has like 2GB RAM, a 100 opened browser tabs because she forgets to close them and a Microsoft Word document opened that she needs to edit, because then this GX Control hard RAM limit will actually allow Word to not stutter and work smoothly, while all OS schedulers and auto tab killers won't help.
The irony of this mismatch between marketing and actual useful cases is pretty funny, I'll admit.
Oh, and ofc, I completely agree with all the other points Muta made, like that Chromium-based browsers are all kinda bloated, like that Opera doesn't show it's source code too openly, like that in the privacy department it's lacking, etc. That's why I personally don't use it on my systems (anymore, besides the time when I had to work from a really old and weak laptop for some time).
I just feel like he really didn't consider how useful this GX Control feature is for low-end systems since his main system (obviously) and even his virtual machine that he pulled from Steam stats are pretty high-end. And how actually unique it is, since I don't think any other browser has it, and OS schedulers/auto tab killers, as I explained earlier, are not a full substitute for it. So, IMHO, GX Control is really the killer feature of this browser... but not for gamers.
*TL DR: The "browser for gamers" is more suited for gamer's parents or even grandparents, lol.*
6:13 Microsoft Edge is not actually open source, just like Opera GX both are based on chromium which is open source but the layers on top (browser vendor specific features) which make Chrome, Opera GX, Microsoft Edge and other browsers is not open source.
The network rerouting tools (essentially a VPN) can work if your ISP is cheap and chooses cheaper routing options rather than the fastest most direct links (Generally to overseas hosts) so while they may not help you if you're playing multiplayer games in your own region, it can help with certain job types that involve moving/accessing data from overseas, but by that point just purchase a VPN.
2:10 I like how they show that Sneako blocked them as if that's some kind of "own" even though they do the exact same thing if you say anything critical of them lol
Exactly, which I find this incredibly ironic lol
9:26 Give me a minute...Someone's pounding on my door.
Gotta get those custom click sounds ;)
It's like Netscape's secret love-child grew up into a cringy Millennial.
Firefox is actually based of Netscape believe it or not
You can actually get rid of GX Corner
right click GX Corner > move to sidebar > right click sidebar > uncheck GX Corner
Try Vivaldi, its made by old opera worker, highly more customizable and respects privacy
Going to do this later, thank you
@UTTPRichBitcoinmanYeah, and prison is just a location.
You can actually get rid of Opera GX
Select Start > Settings > Apps > Apps & features, find Opera GX, select More > Uninstall
@@Shrekrules471 its a bot dont reply just report
As someone that has yet to have an issue with GX, I appreciate that there's a different perspective on it. I don't play any of the games through the browser anyhow and only use it like I use any other browser.
@discoduckgandolf
XD your username is A+, best I've seen all month.
why?
Why not@@Naaka_311
15:13 It can work on memory leaks. I used something like that to reset the RAM usage of programs. My laptop didn't have the memory to run a lot of things so it kept capping out, but I could buy myself an hour on a lot of games by smashing the RAM usage to 0.
Obviously the easier solution is to buy another stick of RAM, but if you're poor it's a functionality.
cool tip bro thank you! :DD
I do think adding shaders to your browser is really funny
But I think its funny too. I think its the most hilariously implemented feature on a browser I've ever seen.
But regardless, as is with all humor, what is "funny" is clearly a subjective matter.
So thank you for sharing.
@@JaymeSplendid Oh I don't think that makes it a good browser either, just a funny meme
Main reason I use it is the limiters have a noticeable impact on my decade old PC, may or might not keep using it once I can build a new one.
same i use opera gx on my aunts laptop coz google kills the danm laptop for me atleast
3:22 Nintendo Switch does have a web browser. It’s used to sign in to Wi-FI networks that require a browser to sign in and can be exploited using the switchbru DNS to browse the internet.
I was an Opera GX user but recently switched to vivaldi cause opera gx was fighting me and having slowdowns and glitches (mind you, my PC has a 4070). I had enough and switched. The sole reason I used Opera GX was because of its sidebar where I could use Twitter. After using Vivaldi for a bit, I learned it also has a sidebar. Ever since, I never looked back!
I did the same thing, the only thing I miss are the typing sounds 😢
@@CoffeeArtThingsliterally just buy a mechanical keyboard with tactical switches
@@radixlinerWhy need to expend 80$+++ in a mechanic keyboard when you can download a browser for free and that's it.
And before you say it, 80$ in my country is A LOT of Money.
@@HeideGuy find the cheaper one, that's it
@@HeideGuy get rich 🥸
“Why I don’t trust Opera GX” “Today’s video is brought to you by our friends over at Brilliant” the absolute hypocrisy.
how is it hypocritical? also if you watched the video he said opera GX isn't shady but just Kind of pointless and pointless marketing trap
9:14 when i heard the browser sound affects in the video i thought my brother done something dumb and i went to go check
tought they were gunshots in the distance xD
I thought they were thunder although it's not raining here tho..
@@raulivan2103 type noises clicking noises or anything soft sounding effects are basically gunshots to you? if you have ptsd from those, you genuinely deserved it and making things so much more dramatic than what it is, it's like saying that you dropped your cup of water and describing it or telling it to others as the house was flooded
I think you covered this excellently. People who want Opera GX, should do it. If they got charmed by the snake oil salesman lines, then don't. If they like these functions then more power to them. If they fear about Chinese spyware allegations, they shouldn't. I think in spite of the title this is a pretty neutral review, even if you are deeply skeptical of Opera GX. It's a product for people, it may not be for everyone and certainly doesn't have some industry shaking unique advantage but it's a decent browser for those who look for that, at least.
Saying we should just ignore Chinese ownership as it relates to security concerns is insane. No one who works anywhere with valuable intellectual property can even consider this junk.
1:20 is when the vid starts
Thanks mate 👍
Ty
Aye, what a legend🫡
Thank you
Use sponsor block. It auto-skips that stuff. I didn't even notice until I saw this comment lol
Tbh every time a product is massively advertised by a lot of youtubers it just makes me suspicious of the company
Old-skool here, well-known on all popular 7 forums as I would fix over 100 stop errors a day, never once had someone buy RAM or RMA RAM unecessarily, and helped out with every other problem under the sun including making custom driver packages for everyone that needed it. (Some chipsets were literally impossible due to the manufacturer itself: I am looking at you NVIDIA code 39 heh heh.) Others doing their thing then on forums, or getting help, etc... you know me even if you don't know me. I would also teach so many others. USASMA was one of my partners in crime. Anyhow - good on you for telling don't let programs get in the way of the OS. That's the right thing to tell, so good on you. Don't forget to rock on and don't lose the wise, truthful approach ever.
my problem with opera gx is the insane amount of bloatware it has, like that rgx "feature" that drains the soul of your pc if it is enabled
Their bloatware is disgusting worse than edge. Last time i tried it you couldnt change google from the new tab
Firefox lives by "Unused ram is wasted ram" but it's also quick to discard tabs if you need it. I had over 1k tabs open in firefox and was only using about 1GB on an 8GB system (still had 2GB free ram)
counter intuitively I had the least amount of power usage on firefox compared to the rest.
I sometimes get to about 5GB used ram on my 32GB system(both under linux and windows). firefox does proportionally use more ram depending on how much you have/how much you need for other tasks.
You had 1,000 tabs open? Holy crap balls. I think the most I've ever had was 6. Normally I have about 3 AT MOST. I don't even think I regularly visit more than 50 different web sites on a regular basis.
1k tabs open is nasty work ngl
What a mess, 1k tabs? I only border 100 tabs on my hobby laptop and it is a MESS. You must be a good racoon to travel between all of that
I despise the saying that unused ram is wasted ram
@@DarkForce2024I still have 1500 tabs. Stuff trends to happen when Firefox makes it easy by having a scroll list of tabs instead of making each tab ever smaller and less convenient to use like other browsers, which forces you to close tabs.
I moved to Firefox and never looked back.
Fr, firefox + ublock origin is all you need
MY MAN
I never moved, i use around 7 browsers
Did the same but switched, ANY site that used cloudflare didn't work.
same
Just one correction: You can absolutely turn off GX corner, I turned it off on my own client. It functions as a pinned tab all you have to do is right click it and select "seperate tab".
All I’m gonna say is that since I changed over to Opera, which was two weeks ago, I have had a lot of my CPU’s problems go away. They can siphon whatever number munching bullshit they want as long as it works as advertised.
You should run some system checks.
Fastest browser i ever used also the data saver feature is underrated...
@@cmbaz1140 idk I got Opera GX and my pc actually got faster
@@DrEpicPhD You should probably stop getting your panties in a mess and start being real, opera GX literally isn't bad, I have been using it ever since 2018 and have had no problems or issues with it, like at all.
@@guywithnohouse.6808it's still Chinese owned
firefoxe's ram usage is due to the Gecko web engine, it's not great with RAM, nor releasing RAM. it's why I'm hoping Servo progresses and Mozilla partners to use that
How can OperaGX claim to use less memory than other browsers while, at the end of the day, be chromium-based and full of boatware.
🛶
The claim does hold true if you are a tab hoarder.... Basically the REAL primary reason to get the browser is it's chrome... that gives you a button to put your tabs to sleep*... and actually stands a chance of not losing all of your many, many, many tabs. Now if you have good tab hygiene and/or a decent computer with an ample amount of RAM... yeah no... it doesn't really matter.
*Other chrome based browsers can and will put tabs to sleep....... when it is absolutely necessary because they have exhausted all of your resources.
@@wh0_am_152 you one of them special types that have 30+ tabs open?
Firefox used more ram than most of the chromium based browsers
@@jkbobful and runs way worse. Especially when you try to watch videos with or without drm. It is so sad. I like the Firefox for its security features but it is terrible for everything more than pure browsing :(
Thanks to you, I switching to Firefox. It's come full circle from using it as a kid on my dad's laptop
task manager -> details tab -> find the .exe you want to 'boost' and right click -> set priority: high
Windows will handle the rest. Most of the time if a game is too hard for a system to run no amount of 'boosting' will help. But prioritizing the game might actually help with crashes and stability issues while lowering the game settings is the 'boost' that really gets those frames going.
Wrong
@@enderagent Wrong again
@@DeerJerky Doing 360s on it
lol
@@enderagent Elaborate, please. Why is he wrong? Because I would like to try that, if it's not a good idea please tell me why.
The whole reason I deleted it was because it was so SLOW. Like I was trying to download a game that it said would take hours and the download would stop because it was taking so long. Out of desperation I tried Chrome (which I know isn’t great, but I already had it) and it only took 5 minutes. Switched to Firefox and haven’t looked back. Runs all my extensions and I can have a custom background
If chrome isnt that great but it worked for you then why say its not great? in this scenario it was more optimal, the things that are wrong with chrome don't really apply here
Why not use internet download manager trial version ??
It's best download manager for the last 15 years.
How is that even an argument
Yes, in this situation chrome's flaws didn't matter but do you only use a browser to specifically download files? Like what.@@PhoenixAscension554
He is obviously saying chrome isn't great because of its optimization and huge privacy concerns not that it doesn't do what it's supposed to
Opera GX when I used it, started to cause crashing on my PC, I know it was the app because the crashing only occured when I had it installed. Each time I removed it, the crashing stopped.
I did find out that despite me uninstalling it, it was still hidden on my PC, as it would appear to be reinstalled shortly after. I had to nuke all traces of it.
how would one nuke it from their computer? Asking for a friend
@@UnworthyCretionYeah also wondering.
Bro got that virus. Use 'Vs Revo' to delete it.
@@UnworthyCretion use revo uninstaller or bcuninstaller
@@UnworthyCretion I went into the C Drive and deleted every folder within my program files/user documents.
There was also a shortcut for the app that was hidden inside a folder, I had to delete that manually.
I did use TreeSize at one point to clean up additional files, but I don't think it's required.
I never bought what anyone said about Opera GX because I have played pc games with an internet browser open in the background and it played just fine.
I switched from Opera GX to Firefox back when Google wanted to kill adblock addons on Chromium browsers. I don't miss it in the slightest, especially given that projects such as Firefox GX exist, which makes your Firefox browser look like Opera GX, which was the only thing I actually liked about Opera GX in comparison to other browsers.
There a download link? And also what features does it carry over from Opera GX
Firefox is shit, though, and an absolute RAM hogger while providing no benefits that every other Chromium browser doesn't already do better.
@@sarkaztik3228 Firefox is completely fine with regards to resource usage imho (and in using it overall), plus it's not under the control of the biggest ad company in the world, which all Chromium based browsers are.
@@sarkaztik3228 I mean you say that, but I frequently mess with the about:config in the Developer Edition and as a result have gotten the RAM usage to be comparable to when I was using Opera GX. As for the "Chromium handles it better" argument, I don't doubt it's the case overall, but I have found that Firefox is overall more stable as you can turn off the Windows "Eco Mode" (which itself states causes instability) setting that Chromium doesn't let you do without launch arguments. All that being said, I am not going to even entertain the idea of not having an adblock like uBlock Origin, and the only way to guarantee such is to not be at all linked to the Chromium browser engine. If Firefox *was* just another "Chromium but with another coat of paint" browser, then I very much would not be dying on this hill.
firefox is the only competitor to chromium in the wide browser space, i find it important to use it just for that lmao
Might be wrong but it used to be that you can disable the GX corner by right clicking it and then remove it.
I was so stressed watching him whinnying about stuff you can turn off
Try Vivaldi, its made by old opera worker, highly more customizable and respects privacy
@@maffe_distroyerit's called bloat, most browsers don't have this, you don't have to dig through menus to have a useable browser
comes back with every update
You disable GX corner by reinstalling windows and using brave.
You can’t say that the CPU/RAM limiter is a “marketing gimmick” if it’s actually killing processes and doing what it’s supposed to, which you showed it doing that…
next video: "why you shouldn't subscribe to brilliant"
If you want the GX Corner to be gone from the Taskbar, all you have to do is enable the (one and only) slider that was highlighted when you searched for it in the settings. That's it, that's how you get rid of it.
I wish you touched upon Vivaldi, which was made by the Co-Founder and then CEO of Opera. There had to be a reason beyond "oh Opera shut down their forum so they just up and left" which is what wikipedia basically states. If the CEO decided it would be better to start over with a more security focused browser than to stay at his current company, I'm sure there were more reasons than the one I mentioned.
Vivaldi is just another chromium browser, not gonna touch it anymore then i would Chrome or Opera. Firefox is the only option anymore if you won't want Google or M$ hard-R'ing your data. (Firefox isn't perfect, just better.)
@@exidy-ytyou can properly setup ungoogled chromium to have the same security and privacy as firefox. Chromium actually has better sandboxing than firefox aswell.
Vivaldi is an unorganized mess
@@LEYTHLEGACY Settings are very complicated and sorting out what you want where is exhausting. Opera is more simple in that. But I'm using Brave rn
@@exidy-ytFirefox is pro censorship, no thank you
I actually bought Opera 3.61. Ran it under Windows 95a and Windows 3.11. I still have the registration key somewhere.
another thing is plugins that opera includes by default, opera's ad blocker was embedding malicious scripts on the sites
I looked into this claim, that's not actually what the ad blocker does. It is running that code to block the content coming from the weird links that was shown into their ad block. No need to spread the misinformation
Been using Opera for a year, never had issues or malware on my PC or anything like that. Please look into yo7r claims before claiming a browser is injecting stuff into websites when it's not and is quick Google search on their forums disproves that / explains that "claim"
Is this true? I mean, I wouldn't doubt it but I'd like to read more about it if you can pull up an article or something
@@JaymeSplendid At that time I worked as a pentester, one of my colleagues also pentester showed that he has sites open with a large picture of the Ukrainian flag embedded in them (we are from Russia) as we are all security experts it was not difficult to trace that it is an injected by Opera extension, by the way one of the heads of Opera security is known for his interesting actions, if the flag is not terrible, but the possibility that you can insert any script is not safe and loss of trust.
Finally somebody talked about it.
Fr only one who I saw criticize it was acheeto and alot of small youtubers
They've been a few channels who has been talking about how terrible Opera GX is for the last 3 or 4 years, but the Cult of Opera GX do the best they can do to label those video as "haters"
Is the aforementioned Brave less taxing to hardware resources? I watch streams and couple tab 2nd monitor.
The funny thing is leafy was the first one to talk about it
@@VelikiDimTRUE
What I like about Opera GX is the screenshot feature where you can screenshot a portion of the page and also the feature when you copy an image and upload it you can choose the picture on your clipboard so you wont have to download the picture if you want to upload ot just copy and youre good to go
This is a windows feature there's literally a button on your keyboard for it. If you press print screen and make a selection it will automatically save the image to clipboard
Shift+Win+S
@@Orangr thank you sooo muuuch!!!!!
My bigga, how did you not know that? It's been a feature since Windows 10. @@Loutales
@@methamphetamememcmeth3422 I know about the snap tool but I do not know the shortcut XD
Hi! When you showed your neofetch output I saw you only had one gpu, the rtx 4090, but when you opened virt-manager I also saw you had that gpu passed trough to the win11 virtual machine. I wanted to ask you if you share your gpu between the host and the guest or you figured a way to partition your gpu underneath linux?
Do you use arch btw?
I remember the bad old days when my new iPhone 3G (and the 3g service itself) was so slow I had to use Opera Mobile because it was barebones. This abomination is nothing like that.
3g is what you call the bad old days?
dont do, or not do, solely because of what you heard from someone else.
you dont really have to eat all your vegetables, but it makes everything else taste better in comparison.
without bad days, good days will just feel like normal days, and get boring when you forget how to appreciate them.
do all your homework right away so you have more time for yourself later without the feeling of dread about still having to do it.
I really appreciate the fact that opera allows me to use messenger without opening Facebook
Oh and the mini player
That shit is great, especially on a laptop
I actually like this feature despite not liking opera, so I end up using it anyway. If anyone can suggest an alternative, please do
Firefox actually has the mini window now! Is basically the same thing except for the opacity option, I think.
@@daze4135 vivaldi
Every browser ever let's you do that...
Muta VS Charlie when?
Yoooooooo
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Muta will win
Seems like they don't know what real gamers need.
A slick slim small not very demanding fast browser, with a clever user interface, that does not spy on you,
that doesn't stack up bigger and bigger growing files about your behaviour and/or whatever.