The 2024 Dodge Charger Daytona Unveil Was Embarrassing
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- The 2024 Dodge Charger Daytona and 2024 Dodge Daytona Sixpack have been officially unveiled. One is a powerful 670HP electric "muscle car" with all wheel drive, and the other with the Hurricane turbocharged inline 6 cylinder. Under a lot of pressure Dodge claims that they were no longer able to make V8 Dodge Challengers or Chargers anymore - so they had to come up with a different solution. With the Hellcat engine now officially gone and off the market for good, how will this effect the muscle car market? Let's talk about it.
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0:00 Are you serious?
1:42 The Hellcat engine is no more
2:10 I felt like a secret agent for 5 seconds
2:28 Hurricane engine and AWD
4:12 Honestly this part was done well
4:48 The EV market is in a weird spot
5:51 THE MISSION CONTROL CENTER BRO
6:10 The unhinged reveal video
6:57 Being a jerk
7:32 HOW WAS THIS APPROVED (BAD SPECIAL EFFECTS)
8:52 "Politically Correct"
9:27 Ford's CEO asking to 1v1 on Rust bro
11:02 The car is a starfox fighter
11:43 Not showing the actual car makes no sense
12:43 "Electric cars existed before"
14:12 Just own it dude
14:56 It should've been done a different way
15:34 final thoughts - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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“So…I was thinking we do the entire reveal in green screen. Thoughts?”
Literally garbage… no one is going to like it. It will be dead in 2 years or they will eat crow and put a v8 in it.
Totally not a Daytona. And completely fake charger.
Do it lmao
Dodge repeating GM story from 80's - it may actually work
You didn’t even mention the crazy weight of the ev. Almost 6k lbs! Hope the gasser is much lighter.
"I said 8 cylinders not 6" ~ Mad Max
Exactly.
And "I said 8 cylinders, not 3 and triple turbos"
Mad Max was whipping around a Falcon, luckily the coyote is still around. Lol
And then "I said, and damn sure not brushless motors, resistors and lithium, I demand 8 cylinders and methanol now!"@@matthewmosier8439
Technically in a post-apocalyptic situation, gasoline is it going to storm that long maybe Max of a year with stabilizers. The Eevee can be charged from any power source such a solar and wind. It would make more sense if mad Max was driving the Charger Daytona
What in the BeamNG was that engine noise 😂
It did sound like one of the cars in BeamNG! LMFAO that's funny
😂😂😂
I can't unhear it now I just had a flashback to early BeamNG when all the cars had the same terrible engine sound
Like a roomba
@@gaydes1012 Yep, the classic cheetah engine sound as it's file was named.
Dodge really said " fuck it, let's destroy our brand"
stellantis*
They fucked their brand way back in the 90s. Yes, Dodge Challengers and Chargers are gorgeous but they borrow the Mercedes frame and engine design. Yes, nothing on the new Dodges are Mercedes but Mercedes made the first Hellcat in one of their cars(Before Dodge did it) and Dodge took the blueprint from Mercedes. I think the worst move Dodge/Chrysler could've made was going with Fiat.
@@Ragingpeddle That's completely untrue. They never used the Mercedes chassis or anything from Daimler. Daimler wouldn't even let them if they did. The engine and chassis are evolutions from its original debut
@danielmorris-ruckett913 Do you not read? First of all, Mercedes used to own Dodge. 2nd, back in the first 2010s, the Dodge charger was built with Mercedes chassis, transmission etc. Only thing Dodge put on them were the engines and the panels, thats literally it. Now, my point of what I was saying about the Hellcat Engine is, Mercedes had their own engine that they made that resembled what was like a Hellcat Engine before the actual Hellcat Engine came in. Mercedes was doing it before Dodge. I never said anything about Mercedes making the Hellcat. I said, the whole car was Mercedes but the panels and engine, on the 2010s and up before Mercedes did away with Dodge.
The government did this. Not dodges fault the government keeps placing more restrictions on things
That exhaust simulation will be the perfect start to my day after I wake up in my pod that I don't own, finish my breakfast of bugs, and check my social credit score to make sure I am authorized to access public space that day.
ok, this guy has been paying attention. I'm glad I'm not alone.
2030
You will own nothing and you will be happy 😅
🤐🫡🫠🙃
I say fuck that ! 🤬💥im not going for it 🔥🏢🔥😅
I never thought we would see the day where the Charger actually becomes a Charger 😭
😂
When the charger needs a charger 🤦🏾♂️
Damn💀
but this Charger can't actually charge other chargers... so it's a ripoff 😂
@@SDRIFTERAbdlmounaiminto the Charger Verse
2023: Hellcat
2024: HelloKitty
Meow
LMFAO 🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀
Please don't disrespect Hello Kitty like that 😂😂
I heard the top speed of this junk goes up to 137 I have a Scat Pack 392 charger 2022 model I had 140 mph easily in a daily basis there's no way in hell I will trade in my Scat Pack to that piece of junk mine sounds like a true power muscle sound with Corsa extreme catalyst midpipe system plus add in the cold air intake and some black racing stripes not a chance oh hell I want to trade in my Beast
HelloKitty = quicker than Hellcat.
The sound of that "rev" is so uncomfortable it makes me physically gag 🤢
I don’t know about those in the comment section, but I’ve never heard a person say, “the exhaust note in that 6-cylinder is BAD ASS - especially in a muscle car.”
Inline sixes can sound hellishly good, just think about E46 M3
That fast and happy rev climbing, the scream at 8k rpm...
Or think about air cooled 911 boxer sixes. Or more recent GT3 boxer sixes, screaming happily from that grunt of an idle to the symphony of course to 9k. Tell me nobody ever got totally carried away for those, exhaust note and all.
Tho I reckon it's not the perfect muscle car sound
@@alebonnibelpantani4887 Every single thing you listed as a 'good sounding' inline six, is a NA inline six. No turbos involved at all like the hurricane. A turbo spoolie snail inline 6 is not revving to 8-9K RPM anytime soon.
There's nothing muscle about either of these cars. A muscle car is a rear-wheel drive, front-engine car with ICE v8 power.
@@tv321123 yeah, you're mostly right
I say mostly cause there are a few exceptions, like RB26DETT or 288GTO's just to name the first ones that come to mind. Lots of race engines too, but that's beyond the point I suppose.
Fact is, turbochargers change engine sound in all of its components, more often than not in a - let's say - good way; but this is true for every configuration, the one with most exceptions being inline fours, maybe threes.
A turbocharged i6 is gonna sound good anyways, as will a turbocharged v8; tho neither is comparable to their naturally aspirated counterparts, usually.
@@alebonnibelpantani4887 100% agree. I don't like it as much as a NA sound. But a top secret Supra, properly tuned RX7, as you point out RB26; all sound great in their own right.
Not gonna lie I think dodge is gonna have issue's selling vehicles
All they sell right now is the ram and the muscle twins. We shall see how well the hurricane does because something tells me it’s not even going to be anywhere near the hemi reliably.
They kinda are right now but I know what you mean.
They gonna have to rebrand a bit
They might, may not... looks sell.
@@maverickphantom005 Clearly they don’t since they have so much inventory that’s not selling at all. Look it up.
Dodge missed the opportunity to call it a slant 6
Yes if it is actually a slant 6. If not it just seems off to me. It would be on par for dodge either way. How long have they been calling their engines hemis without actually being hemispherical?
Near every vehicle these days has a semi-hemispherical chamber design these days anyway. Higher chance to find a "real hemi" in a Chinese small engine .... It's worse that semi-hemi @@relaxingdrives6075
The " buzzing half dozen"...
pretty sure the hurricane name was chosen by the European overlords at Stellantis
They have enough problems, without bringing that POS up.
My 50 year old chevy has had less of an impact on the environment over it's 50 year use, than creating a single battery pack for a single E.V.
I actually like the idea of an electric charger. But the way they presented it in this dodge video was 1000% pure cringe.
A single Model X's battery contains enough lithium to produce 6818.18 (repeating of course) iPhone batteries. (Assuming 90kWh P90D Model X vs an iPhone battery with 13.2Wh of battery.) Phone vs EV battery is not even an argument.
The real issue is the government enforced tax that penalizes every non EV/Hybrid vehicle an OEM sells, look up ZEV (Zero Emission Vehicles) mandate, it basically kills the incentive for manufacturers to build ICE cars. Don't blame the OEMs for making these decisions, it comes from politicians and their benefactors.
So much for a government by the people for the people, the founding fathers would be rolling in their graves if they could see how much power the government has accumulated and ignored the constitution, free people should dictate the market according to what the people want to own
Evil government
One-world government
I try telling this to people. It's not an EV revolution, it's a social engineering push by the government and their agenda to tax people for "bettering the planet"
They were voted in
“The one that sounded like a cat”, I think you meant vacuum cleaner, it sounds like a vacuum cleaner.
Yeah, because it definitely sucked
Nope... I own a vacuum cleaner... it's sounds much better than that.
FIRE TIM KUNISKIS RIGHT NOW!!!
@@bzamski17 fun fact, the Swedish word for Vacuum cleaner is “dam sugare” which directly translates to “dust sucker”.
I heard someone call a handheld vacuum cleaner for “hand dust sucker”.
@devonp5079 if you think about it, Tim probably wants somebody to put him out of his misery.
At least it growls at you through the speaker. Imagine pulling up the the club and making it growl, well worth the ridiculous price tag
i can't believe they deleted the v8. that was the only redeeming quality for dodge. there was no other.
Dodge- "I've got a great idea." Let's discontinue our best engine ever and replace it with an e.v." It will be awesome, right...? Right...?".......
I couldn’t even sit through other channels’ reviews. It was rough to watch them struggle with saying positive things.
I dont know, but I love the sixpack one.. inline6 twin turbo high strung engine awd coupe... American Skyline?
@Hanschepu Too bad it weighs 1500 pounds more than a skyline. And don't fool yourself, that engine will shit its guts out before it makes any serious power. Assuming you could even defeat all the electronic wizardry that keeps modern cars running.
@@SoI_BadguyDeadass, Chrysler is gonna fuck this engine up so bad, and it'll cost an absolute fortune to fix. Not to mention this is the ugliest looking car I've seen in a minute lol.
As so does most modern cars, besides that all are assumptions, but its nice to see there will still be not only an ICE version, but one that has an appealing engine, time will tell, but if these engines are as good as BMW's B58 then we're in for a treat and even tho its not a V8, i6's are some of the best sounding engines.@@SoI_Badguy
@@02honeydew I think it looks pretty good from certain angles, which just makes it even worse. What a tragedy.
if i remember correctly from the last time i worked on a brand new grand wagoneer, there is legitimately no dipstick. no way to check the oil level, without running the car until it’s warm, then letting it sit with the battery on for 10 minutes. and they are notorious in our shop for throwing low oil level lights for no reason, then being extremely picky about clearing the light. i’m personally genuinely disinterested in anything involving that kind of “innovation.” to be honest though, i’m disinterested with every dodge after working on them.
Sounds like they took a page out of BMW's book by removing the dipstick.
When I used to be a lot attendant in a Dodge service center it was horrifying to see the quality get smashed over a decade. The older 300s hold up way better than the newer ones with electrical gremlins (not saying that the old ones are that good to begin with), a wagoner with less than 1000 miles having an issue with the rear door, a 60,000 mile ish front wheel drive cherokee with the tranny slipping really bad, and my personal favorite: an 8 mile eco-diesel ram with a check engine light already on.
And don't get me started with those garbage pacifica minivans, especially the hybrid ones. I have seen several with very low miles come in with a hybrid system failure or the stop start technology which is bad to begin with not doing it's job or stalling in an intersection.
The craziest thing though was a man who had to get a 3rd engine put in his 392 charger because they kept burning out.
I just drove through a Toyota dealer yesterday and there was two of those Waggoneers sitting on their used lot.. wonder why..
@widsquard Experienced people with a passion for their work are all aging out. From the top down, we are seeing an attitude of not giving a rip about doing a good job or not being able to do a good job due to lack of skill. I just watched a video from Car Care Nut about how you are better off buying an older Lexus LS430 vs a newer LS460. The newer ones are built more like a German shitbox than a Toyota.
Hear me out... Dodge Caravan with a Hellcat.
Dodge Boardroom: snorts a line of coke* "Do it!"
I miss that Dodge
They know none of this is ok. They’re literally lying to themselves 😂
💯
Which is why it feels so contrived and insincere
Its part of a psychological operation to emasculate and control.
I'm a fan of Dodge cars and honestly I fully expect that this was such a terrible presentation because they already got wind that the push for EV's is toast, about a month ago and they are already rebooting the machinery and supply chains necessary to build a real muscle car, again.
Ford already announced it isn't going through with its battery manufacturing plant construction and EV demand seems poised to drop off.
Some intern was given the task of creating a presentation with a 1/4 of the funding that was previously planned in order to try and sell off the ones they had already built
They might even want to make it fail intentionally.
Ford Mustang V8 sales will double. Well done Stellantis. John and Horace are not impressed.
No true Dodge fan ,will ever buy a f… Ford!
So glad I bought my V8 before things turned to 6's and electric.
Your right Dodge and Chevy seemed to be going in the wrong direction. So, I bought a 2024 Mustang Dark Horse with the handling package 500 hp V-8 with a six speed Tremec. Plus, it sounds like a muscle car. Not a six-cylinder auto box or an EV. But this is just one old, retired man's opinion.
@paulabes4220 I'm nearing retirement and nothing was going to satisfy me like a 2019 Mustang PP1 6 speed. Glad you got what you wanted.
triple no more camaro if you want a v8 you need the pony
I have no problem with the Hurricane. I actually want one, because no one does. People (and I bet most Dodge people) forgot about the Charger R/T Hemi E49? That had an inline 6 and it was cool as hell. I hope they release a paint option to make the new one look like it.
Wasn't there an old movie with Vince Vaughn and Kevin James where they worked for Dodge and were trying to get a electric charger to sound like a muscle car?
Jim Farley is literally Chris Farley's cousin, who lived in van down by the river
I liked those episodes!!
Who has more balls than Mopar and all their "brotherhood" combined. He fully understands what his customers want.
The entire sale pitch was delivered out of fear …zero badassery
Living up to the HellKitty allegations
If they went back in time to show this to the dodge brothers, they’d follow him back to the present to save their company’s reputation and namesake.
I want to see Akio Toyoda vs Jim Farley in a race
Dodge refusing to let this car be what it is. An EV. Fake exhaust sound? Total embarrassment.
I’m still waiting for the reply from people who cite the imaginary law the requires vehicles to make engine noise for road safety purposes.
@@MoneyManHolmes www.federalregister.gov/documents/2022/07/13/2022-14733/federal-motor-vehicle-safety-standards-minimum-sound-requirements-for-hybrid-and-electric-vehicles It's only supposed to be up to 20mph. There is no requirements above that.
This is just a joke car. The dodge brand is almost dead.
It's not just fake exhaust sound, it's bad fake exhaust sound. If we can synthesise musical instruments and human voices, we should be able to synthesise a V8 without it sounding like a cat.
@MoneyManHolmes In the sports car community it is, people like you aren't sports car customers anyway. This car is useless to both of us because people like you already have a tesla and people like me dont want to be associated with that beta community.
How does everyone at work just, "plug in?"
If I was in the position of running Dodge, here’s what I would do:
One of the big problems with electric vehicles is that they’re pretty much being positioned like a smart phone. It is very difficult or impossible to repair it yourself, and if there are any problems, It’s fairly likely that you will have to pay as much as the entire car. Don’t understand, I’m an EV fan, I drive a small EV, and an electric vehicle can be significantly more reliable than a gas or diesel engine. Not only that, but a lot of modern gasoline cars are extremely expensive to repair as well. These aren’t the vehicles that were built in the 70s that you could just fix or change your suspension or would have you in your garage. current gas cars are significantly more complicated than they used to be.
That said…
I think there is an opening for an OEM to create an electric vehicle platform specifically designed to be modified and upgraded. Now most EVs have essentially the same kind of suspension and tires as any other car. But what if you designed an electric vehicle that specifically was positioned for the owner to make different kinds of performance choices. For example, as I mentioned in another comment, there are all sorts of battery chemistries that are being developed. what if there was a muscle car that was designed to let you swap out the batteries, not in a quick automated way like some of the Chinese cars are doing, but something that you would do if you have a lift, or maybe if you can put your car up on risers, which would allow third parties to provide an alternative power source. And what if you could do the same thing with the electric motors? Not that, but if you could tune the performance curve in the battery system, there’s all sorts of possibilities. For instance, some manufactures are experimenting with having two different kinds of battery chemistry, one design for high output for performance, and the other part designed for longer range. changing the balance between those two things is probably one of the places where a tuner could change an electric vehicle.
I’m also not convinced that we’ve seen the end of the manual transmission. Well electric vehicles don’t need a manual transmission, or most cases of transmission of any kind, at the same time, I still believe that there is potential efficiency to be gained from adding a manual to an electric electric drive train. i’m not sure as you’re revving the electric motor whether it’s efficient the same way across the entire power band or not. Perhaps somebody’s done the experiment on this, but if you were designing for instance a race car, and you had to eat out that last drop of electric range so that you wouldn’t have to recharge or switch vehicles or drop the battery or have you, maybe there’s a place for a manual transmission there.
Finally, with regards to the motor sound, I’m an electric vehicle fan, but I’m not a fan of that. One of the big benefits of electric motor is that it’s generally quiet. The idea that you would add gasoline engine noise to that is just silly. Let the vehicle make it noise. The only thing I might say, and then I might do if I were the head of Dodge right now, is find out whether or not there is a way to mechanically amplify the natural noise of the electric motor.
Japanese and Italian manufactures are especially good at tuning their noise using sound experts to get just exactly what they want out of their exhaust manifolds etc. I see no reason why this kind of attitude couldn’t also be used in an electric car. For instance, changing the proportions of electric motor would almost certainly change the electric wine that comes out of it. most electric vehicles are trying to be a silent as possible. But that’s not a requirement. Now granted, sound usually means in efficiency. But having a little bit of sound come out of your electric motor could generate some excitement and also give the driver some feedback. If that sound isn’t audible enough though, there’s no reason why you couldn’t figure out a way to create a sound Pike from the engine either into the cabin, out to the exterior, or both. And if that sound pipe was shaped properly, you would be getting actual electric motor sounds, but tune in away that would not artificially change them, but instead emphasize them and give you an more exciting experience. It’s kind of what I thought Dodgers gonna do, but now it seems like they may be using artificial digitally generated audio. That’s a real bummer, and I’d rather just didn’t do that and had the most powerful electric vehicle on the planet. It’s a hard thing to do, because the Tesla model plaid I’m pretty Suredestroys any Dodge that’s out there today. But if that’s wrong, it’s certainly is in the mix. Why shouldn’t Dodge make it electric vehicle the absolute fastest production car outside of a Bugatti?
Bruh, I thought it was a joke. It's the actual reveal😂 RIP Dodge. it's going downhill.
If arrogance sold cars, Stellantis would be a winner. All we have is a bunch of arrogant Europeans think they a fix our tastes in cars and impose what they think we need. How is the Hornet selling?
Dodge just joined the woke community😂
Everything woke turns to shit
That's what they said in the late 70s. But the fact is electric is being forced on us & it's not right
FIRE TIM KUNISKIS NOW!
They turned the Charger into a chick car. An in-line is bad but the EV…..note to auto companies, we HATE EV’s. The damn car needs a Hemi V8.
Just thought I'd add this context. "Dodge won't let them use the Hemi anymore." The reason is Dodge doesn't have/own the Hemi name/engine anymore. That engine now belongs to Ram, which is it's own brand. They haven't said that Ram has denied Dodges request to continue using the Hemi engine after 2025 because Dodge hasn't asked Ram to continue to use the engine going forward. Why? Not everyone uses common sense with their reasons.
That ad was GUILT PERSONIFIED. They feel bad about the whole thing.
I like the inline 6 but a muscle car should have a V8 engine. I'm just waiting for the inevitable Hemi swap
They could have made a turbo hemi or a DOHC hemi or any alternative (maybe pre-chamber ignition like Maserati uses). This just seems lazy and embarrassing.
They’d have to sell one first 😂
I think we’re gonna have to get passed this mentality. With emissions and climate change we’re gonna need to shift to fuel efficient engines, and a turbo inline 6 is wayyy more than enough and we’ve known this since the 2JZ. Hell im surprised the new mustang GT doesnt have an ecoboost V6 like the Raptor and keep the V8 to a GT500/Cobra trim. At this point we’re arguing over sound preference, a twin turbo V6 would develope power easier than a NA V8 would just do to the fact that the engine would already be built for boost and have easy and cheaper access to more boost and respond better to different upgrades. Whats the issue? What even is a muscle car, is it just a V8 is there anybody that really thinks a mid engine vette is anything short of a supercar? Is a 458 with a ferrari V8 a muscle car? Is a GNX not a muscle car cause it was a sixer? Is a musclle cause just a boat sized car with a big ass engine that makes a lot of boost? Cause imo the mustang hasnt been a muscle car in a long ass time and the only real muscle car was the challenger. Muscle cars have been dead a long time, V8’s will eventually be dead also and while it sucks thats life, its not supposed to stay static and things have to change and for actual reasons even if we wanna cover are eyes and ears about how man made climate change isnt real. Japan and Europe showed 6 cylinders is more than good enough, idk why its such an issue for americans
Idk guys if it’s any like them new BMWs it’ll be fast on the street if it’s tunable
Man until you own a v8 you really can’t speak for others. There’s something about the cold starts, the resonation through the body of the car, the raw torque, and most importantly, the reliability and simplicity. There’s a reason old BMW 5 series go for 3k on the used market and a v8 mustang of the same year are double that.
The guy driving in circles and not looking where he's going... that will be in my nightmares tonight.
😂😂
Only good thing about the EV charger is they brought it back to the coupe, other than that, 🤢 no longer a muscle car
R.I.P. Dodge.
Said it before, I'll say it again. If Tim actually showed up to the Dodge brothers with that thing in 1910, the Brothers would have closed their doors and gone back to work for Henry Ford.
Was the CEO playing himself, and BOTH Dodge brothers in this?
Ford was working for the Brothers at one point because he needed the money. Without them, Ford would not be where it is now.
@@vantawave9323 Henry Ford never worked for the Dodge Brothers, they supplied some chassis, engines, transmissions, and parts to Ford up to around 1914 when they started their own car company.
If this showed up at the Dodge brothers front dr oor in 1910 the brothers we ould have shat themselves in delirium. As much as you or l might not like it the day of the V-8 is over. As is the day of the ICE to a large degree. EVs are the future. Granted they still have issues to over come. But when it comes to power on demand it really doesn't matter if the powerplant runs on gasoline, electrons or Doc Brown's Mr Fusion. What matters is putting the power to the pavement.
PS l think the general objection to the idea of an inline six would have died if Ford had produced the Barra in the US. And if GM had used the Atlas more widely.
The Dodge brothers were very innovative and probably if around today would be developing electric vehicles.
No marketing teams understand nowadays that the vast amount of people with spendable extract income nowadays are older folks that hate EVs. This is the problem with trying to include everyone in your PR/Marketing teams nowadays instead of sticking with experienced people that know what they’re doing.
Talk to the boys down under ( Australia) about a straight 6 running a cool 1000 hp. Ford hss had a bsd ass 6 for years. So Dodge guys chat with the men down under.
04 Mystic Chrome convertable, completely stock,
4:50 Toyota is Based AF for taking that stance.
I hope they continue with hybrids!
Their HSD tech is incredibly good---when they use it.
I’m pretty sure it’s because Toyota is based in Japan and sell a lot of cars there. Since Japan is an Island country it struggles with electricity more than European and American countries. Toyota wants to make cars that have engines because of this, thus why they aren’t going along with the EV industry
@@darkshinobi3030 Interesting thought but here's what I found. JP only accounts for 16% of automobile unit sales but huge 37% of revenue. That disparity likely stems from their financial services, marine, housing, agraculture & medical business units being strong there. The US too has very limited electric in most of the country but it's not too bad in former industrial areas. That has a lot to do with infrastructure planning expecting a fall in electric usage over time, rather than the massive, rapid increase. Overall JP is at 7.4 MWh/capita and the US at only 4.5 so, at the moment Japan uses about 60% more per person already. I suspect that both infrastructures will need a massive refit.
Same stance Ford has more or less.
@@darkshinobi3030 they have fuel problems too. *That is why they have electric problems in the first place*
Personally the price of any of the new performance cars makes them almost unattainable.
New cars in general are not for the average Joe anymore. In 1969 the 425 HP Charger R/T was 38% of median U.S. household income, yep pricey, and for 2024 it's nearly 89% so 134% increase in the cut of a family budget---brutal!
They should have a clip on the fender where you can put baseball cards in the spokes
1:00 Sounds like a cougar matting call😂😂😂
May Toyota continue to lead with rational decision making and keep the ICE alive and well for the future.
And for Ford to continue to make V8s
I just bought my first 4Runner . Hands down Toyota is making the best vehicles.
Toyota is going to get buried by BYD and Tesla. Electric cars are greener throughout the life cycle of the vehicle and don't require oil wars for people to get to work. Once the EV supply chain is built up they will be cheaper to own. Let's not talk about Toyota's reliability issues as of late.
Wish that affordable new Toyota hilux Champ can make it to america
Toyotas sale worldwide, and they build 30 year vehicles. They are realistic, and not bowing to the political positions of some countries. They are in the auto business for the long term, not the latest fad. That's why I have evolved from Domestic brand vehicles. to Toyota. Love them.
When you basically have this HUGE computer screen, and you have to fish for what you want for seconds... This is UNSAFE! Get these screens out of vehicles. Leave the computers at home and in the OFFICE! Why should the Federal government tell us what we can have?
I hate screens. If there is some sort of malfunction you can't drive it. All this electronic crap is going to be expensive to fix when it craps out and eventually the software will probably be discontinued and you will be stuck with a brick
A bunch of f_ck_ng junk.
@@3644Darrell Don't tell that to the industry - they'll double-down! It's in the industry's best interest for the car to last as little as possible so you go and buy another in a few years instead of keeping it for 20 years. And the beauty here is that with IT, we've been trained for decades that IT has limited lifecycle: upgrade your Windows every 5 years, get a new laptop every 2-3 years. Apple has trained people real well that a computer SHOULDN'T last more than 5 years. So "everyone" knows that if the tablet malfunctions in the car - that's fair game and just get a new car -- it'll have the most recent trendy gadgets as a bonus. Sucks for 2nd hand buyers, but... This is nefarious, but shows stupidity of the masses.
The EU will begin to fine cars with giant screens inside starting in 2025/2026.
It's ironic. Claim safety features and whatnot, but people spent years knowing how to drive. This is just promoting complacency and people won't know how to drive properly. Nobody needed these nonsensical safety features and touchy feely BS back in the day and everyone was fine.
Can we all agree to not buy any of this and just let it fail? Better to burn out than fade away and whatnot.
Its an obsurd 5800 lbs
That's insane No car should be that heavy. It will feel like a tank in corners. That's nearly 2000 lbs heavier than a 2024 Mustang GT.
Jesus: that’s like three Miatas.😂😂😂
You know what’s insane? Car garages in the UK have been collapsing because EVs weigh triple the amount of regular gas cars. As more EVs get made, I expect more garages to fail because they were never made to hold that much weight
When Dodge unveiled the Banshee back in 2022, I thought to myself: "Only the truly cultured ones know that the Banshee sounds like the M4S from "The Wraith" (The movie with Charlie Sean)".
I recognized that sound right away. Great movie btw👍👍
Yep lol
Thats exactly what came to my mind when i heard ot lol
This is the comment I was looking for!
I was going to comment about "The Wraith" but decided to scroll down and check first.
They FINALLY made a 2 door charger, then somehow still ruin it with the engine choice 🤦🏻♂️
There are going to be so many engine swaps into that thing... and so many rebuild/engine swap youtube vids of the first crashed TT6s. I really can't see the Daytona selling at all. I'd be willing to bet it will even under perform the Ford Lightning.
@@forced4motorsportsIt should be hard to sell a "Daytona" without the proper wing. On the original Daytonas Richard Petty said the combination of that tall wing and the rear fender shape would slam the car right back into control when the air hit it if the rear was starting to slide. Some people call that wing ridiculous but, it served a purpose. NASCAR even eventually banned Daytonas because it was too perfectly engineered.
@@forced4motorsports don't understand the point of engine swapping these because your gonna need to replace 90% of the car to even do these swaps with the new electronics and awd drivetrain. At that point u might aswell buy a normal charger for the cost of even doing these swaps.
Right! Never should of made it a 4 door in the first place
Best promo they should have done would have been: "Here's the new Dodge Challenger/Charger. We were going to make an EV, but instead we made the Hemi bigger. F the politicians."
I was a Dodge dealership mechanic starting in 1979 and was 17. I would trade in warranty parts to the parts department for "Direct Connection" parts for my 1972 Challenger street car. Oh those were some of the best days.....WTF HAPPENED TO MOPAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The electric charger will fail just like the electric movement is failing and being rejected. They will have dismal sales
Yep agree! Remember the mustang mach ev? Sells for less than a same year premium gt! Lol
Fixing a fake problem
Porsche is doing e fuel, Toyota is going hydrogen, bmw is going with hydrogen, Honda and Gm are doing hydrogen, ford is going to make mustangs with v8’s no matter what. The people have spoken and car companies have realized despite the government wanting electric, the consumers don’t
Yes that's why the best selling car in the world is electric 🙄 what a failure
@@leprechaunbutreallyjustamidget In what area? cause in the states no one cares. It's proven look around you 90% ice cars and trucks on the road. So who cares what it sells.
I still remember when they turned the Charger into a Cordoba. They should trot out the old commercials with Joe Garagiola singing "There's been a change in Charger; it's a whole new car...It's a different Charger than you've seen by far..."
Or when they turned the Omni 024 into a Charger.
12:20 speaking of, who remembers the commercials for the Lexus LFA?
Why an inline 6 instead of a V6? I don't get it.
I give it two weeks after launch, someone does a Hellcat engine swap 😂
People fail to realize that if they do it, they cars won’t probably pass emissions inspections.
@@TomazHilton We don't have emission inspections in my state, so I'd be OK to do it here.
@@nightowl3582 Remember that just because your state doesn't do an inspection doesn't mean that you can break federal law. If any officer suspects that emissions have been tampered with they can pull you over, impound the vehicle, confiscate and black tag the title and then fine you up to 10k. So if you were going to break a federal law, I'd keep it to yourself. EPA is going hard after people right now.
@@WhoThisGuy515screw the three letter agencies,, the EPA, the ATF and joe,we the people will drive what we want to drive, hopefully the SCOTUS will do away with Chevron defference and reign in the power of those unconstitutional agencies
Fuck emissions inspections.
Funny enough the Dodge Brothers built their business of Trucks and Commercial vehicles but never built any passenger vehicles until far after both brothers died in 1920 by which point the company had been bought by Chrysler.
Dodge built their first car post WWI in 1914.
Sounded like a Cyberlife cat getting stuck in a mouse trap
🤔 I'm thinking it has an acquired taste. Right now people aren't happy but given some time & after what Dodge has up it's sleeves with upgrades it will change people's minds.
I’ve NEVER EVER been a ford fan but if the mustang sticks around with the V8 I might switch my loyalty
Lexus sells a highly reliable V8 making 472 HP in the RC-F and IS 500. With the help from Yamaha.
@@chuckcribbs3398 I’m a muscle car guy
Same here!!
Same.
The big 3 in general, are going to get themselves in a lot of trouble, if they continue with this EV 🔋🪫🐂 💩👎!
Ford and GM are backpedaling. Or so I've heard. Agreed though. I just thought it was funny that they're the last to join the party and are still making all the same mistakes. They'll figure it out. Or they'll get bailed out... Again.
The children mmm adults now days will but buy them.
Now if they were hybrid it probably wouldn't be so bad for solar power substitution in those electric cars might help them better but the fact they are pushing electric so much & the crappy tech I am against it.
Note college Intro hybrid exp & mechanic exp as well I have
Idk man ford and Chevy are making some nice ice cars still. That 5.5 in the z06 is music to my ears.
"get to work and just plug it in" ??? Are most employers installing dozens or hundreds of vehicle chargers? Where?
All the reviews on this and not even this channel can be honest and say "this is garbage, and you should not take this serious with your wallet." It's still just "hey maybe a super high psi turbo inline 6 can be like super cool for the 80k miles you'd be lucky to squeeze out of it, right?" Or "maybe you will suck at the teet of a gazillion ton tire destroying ev with 120 miles of range because cool, right?"
This is like going to your favorite bar, wanting to get rowdy, and they only have NA beer.
LOL 20 people to drink, 1 six pack of actual beer and all the NA you can see!
They should come out with a new dodge stealth and put the straight 6 in it
I forgot about that car. I was thinking the Dart, but I would also go for the Stealth. Both would be good JDM competitors.
I don't think they have the talent to repeat that since Mitsubishi has been gutted like a fish.
Marketing for auto manufacturers have really gone downhill in the last 10 years...except for a few standout holiday or Super Bowl commercials. It just shows how little these companies and their marketing teams understand their customers.
For the people who say "oh yeah, I want an entirely electric Dodge because Dodge electronics are so wonderful!"
Remember when Dodge was full of front wheel drive 4 and 6 cly cars and the die Mopar guys sat on the sidelines restoring the Muscle from the 60's and 70's. Dodge finally got the message and finally made the Challenger and a performance version even though it was 4 dr. a Charger. Well sales exploded and Dodge was once again became the Muscle car company after Ford decided the Mustang needed to be more sports car and less retro. The Mopar crowd is VERY loyal and will not be fooled. I'm guessing these won't be cheap and will not sale very well due to price and distained for no V8. Dodge is forgetting exactly who they are trying to sell too.
Love those 2.2 Turbo cars. GLHS. Shelby Daytona's. Heck by 92 the IROC RT DOHC Turbo had more HP than a 5.0 V8 Mustang. 224 to 215. Also the 92 Spirit RT was the fastest 4 door production sedan sold in America. Those Turbo cars. Just so cool. GLH Road track had destroyed a 60'S Mustang GT350 in one issue. Heck 2.2 saved Chrysler.
It was like watching someone try to convince others that this is a great idea but at the same time they dont believe it themselves.
Dodge is about to have their Budweiser moment
About 3 decades ago, BMW knows that American consumers can only count the engine spec numbers by their fingers, i.e. # of cylinders, therefore introduced a V8 530i, despite even less displacement than their original inline-6 535i. But American buyers took the bait anyway. I drove it, & found it to be quite a joke. What kind of performance car would use such tiny cylinders smaller than 0.4 liter each? These days, I've been repeatedly collecting naturally aspirated smoother-than-V8 inline-6 BMW, 3.0 included, all stick-shift of course.
I remember when Dodge come out with the Challenger Demon. And in a video promotion in answering "How much horsepower does it make?" the dude went through and described what a launch experience in the car would feel like. Along with telling us that the NHRA had certified the quarter mile time before immediately banning it from drag racing because of how powerful it was. Before finally telling us that it made 804 horsepower stock. THAT was a great promo video for the Demon. Seemed like a lifetime ago
I was pissed when they called it a muscle car there is no muscle about it
It's almost like the Grand National never existed .... lol ... 6 cylinder muscle cars are a thing and some are proper beasts ... as for the EV models, they simply had to.
@@BeefBravo1257no
@@DerrickRG No? No? Really? The Grand National isn't a thing .... lol ... ???
Muscle cars are V8 not a 6 cylinder or a over sized golf cart.
My 74 charger 440 c.i. is way cooler. Is hard on gas ⛽️ ..I love it! Forever!
Porsche and Audi EVs are depreciating way faster than their gas counterparts. This is a Fiat failure.
No, they were just overpriced. That’s all. All the prices coming down is good for us all.
EVs should be cheaper than gas, it's simply the inferior option and the price should reflect that.
@@ghoulbuster1 No ev are superior to ICE cars. They should have a lower price due to thousands of less parts Hyunday sells then at a lower price than an ICE car. Tesla does the same. China manufacturers seel the at lowwer prices than ICE cars. GM, Foed, Stellantis do n ot know how to make ev in a profitable way. Someting is wrong with the US automotive industry, and very soon with robotics industry.
EVs aren't even green to the earth. quite the opposite actually.
Bruh, lemme just move thousands of pounds of dirt to extract this lithium from the ground so my non-recyclable batteries can die in 10 years. Oh, and fuel it with coal/natural gas power plants 😂
@@androiduberalles But, lithium batteries are nearly infinitely recyclable. Not siding with "EVs are the answer" because definitely not. Just stating a fact.
@@androiduberallesso make the energy renewable and extraction methods ethical while making cities walkable. It’s like conceding to the oil lobby and digging your heels in the sand.
Oil is just as bad too
There’s basically an infinite supply of studies proving that over the lifecycle of a car, EVs are substantially better for the environment.
Wanna know how this will probably play out? Look at what happened to Holden in Australia after the discontinuation of the final Australian made VF Commodore (Chevy SS)
An AWD, V6...muscle car?! that has got to be the dumbest thing i've ever heard.
I6
@@antilogism Even worse.
times arent changing. times are being forced to change. if left to the free market V8s and stuff would still be the norm. the only reason "times are changing" is because the government said so.
FUCK the government
"Hellcat?.. Call it the, " Mean kitten".
Now I know why there were so many "Dodge" jokes on
'Married with children'
I think Stellantis better discount the hell out of their 2023 inventory before doing ANY serious amount of production of these. They are sitting on a year's worth of unsold 2023 models.
They've lost their minds thinking V8 people are gonna give it up for a straight 6 or EV.
So when V8s go extinct, which is happening pretty soon, the V8 guys will switch to riding the bus.
@@blue46gt They'll buy a Mustang.
What I don’t know is did the raptor lose sales when they stopped putting a v8 in it? I know they have a the raptor R now, but for an insane price, the original raptor was affordable and sweet, the other question I have is will the trx get the inline 6 as well in the future?
@@blue46gtthey will buy older v8 cars…
@@timcanniff311 Ooof I never even thought about that, I love what the raptor has done for pickup trucks, and definitely happy to see the V8 back in it. If they do that to the TRX it will mark its death in automotive history/
I think the twin turbo inline 6 engine is cool. It just shouldn’t go with the Charger. A lightweight sports couple from dodge would have been cool.
Perhaps a new srt4 neon ?
Inline 6 isn't necessarily bad, it just wasn't ever associated with a fast Charger.
Dodge is repeating GM 80's story: Buick Grand National and Firebird (I believe in 87 there was the fastest production chicken with a twin turbo 6... so it was faster than the V8's of that time)
@Dginny865 the srt4 is a four cylinder...
Straight Sixs were completely overshadowed by their V8 brothers but nearly every classic muscle car had a straight 6 variant as the easier to attain base model. Now we get a smooth running 3.0L twin turbo straight 6 that weighs half as much as the outgoing hellcat motor, makes gobs of power in a new chassis that also weighs less than the outgoing LX chassis.
If anything, the Charger Six Pack is going to feel like a proper GT class car that it used to compete with in the past and it can still destroy tires. It's just a shame I haven't heard anything about a 6-speed manual and pure RWD option... probably won't happen.
@@maverickphantom005actually it was, just not in America. Australia is home to the Dodge Hemi 6. “The Chrysler Hemi-6 engine is a family of inline six-cylinder petrol engines produced by Chrysler Australia in three piston displacements and multiple configurations. Hemi-6 engines were installed in Australian-market Chrysler Valiants from 1970 through 1981.”
Turbo 6 cylinder sounds great in all, but now the EPA is hunting down aftermarket product manufacturers. So no go fast goodies may be available.
Part of the issue is Tim truly doesn't want to build the ev's and i6's without having the option of a hemi v8 under the hood but no thanks to the "chief" of stellantis he has no other choice.
“Muscle car” that won’t come with a v8 or a standard transmission 🤮
Umm... Buick Grand National GNX in 80's
In late 80's also the Buick motor was also used in a Firebird
😂😂😂
@@maverickphantom005 lmao I love how all these thick v8 heads forgot that the GNX existed and was even considered a muscle car. Even so they dont even come up with a decent counter argument for it
Huge disappointed from Dodge. Like David said if Ford can keep their V8 why can’t Dodge.
@@slimslimee4411they also forgot that chysler had the Slant 6... which is just a tilted straight 6, and put them in several muscle cars as lower factory trim option. The Slant 6 was also very well supported by factory and aftermarket with a bunch of tuning mods.
As a dodge fan if it comes down to it i will jump ship for the Mustang GT to stick with the roots of history with a historic v8. Also i will say what a world we live in where an in-line 6 can produce over 600 houses crazy to me.
with a factory warranty, no less
or a 3 with 300! (GR Carolla)
Clearly you missed the Mk4 Supra in the 90s.
900hp on stock internals. It was just never tuned to that stock.
I'll be curious to see what tuners do with the Hurricane engine. Assuming anyone will want to tune it. So far I'm not impressed, but we'll see what the future holds.
Lexus sells a V8 with 472 HP, in the RC-F and IS 500.
I went from a Challenger to the new 24 GT this year. Dodge is gone.
Great video, I have to put my two cents in on this one. I work for Dodge for many years, Dodge turned into a European company and in Europe you cannot have a motor bigger than 3 liters with that said they are not focusing on the American Publix wants and needs. Sorry but that is the reason why you have a 3 l motor. I switched to mustang and I'm not looking back I will not drive a V6 my last V6 was in my Grand national in 1987 and I hated it and traded it for a Monte Carlo super sport which I ended up putting a 383 stroker end. Good riddance Dodge
There should be ink nozzles in rear wheel wells that spray down faux rubber on the asphalt right after the faux wheel peel sound fx sound out.
Dodge have properly messed up with the new Charger. It looks great. Absolutely fantastic. But by not offering a V8, they've alienated the majority of their customer base.
At this point is it even called an “exhaust” if it’s EV? Wouldn’t it just be speakers attached to two pipes in the rear bumper at that point?
According to what's known of the Fratzonic Chambered Exhaust, it uses an air pump that runs right under the car through a pipe, creating that exhaust noise
While mildly fake, it's far from a speaker
So it technically is an exhaust, just not one that comes from an engine lol
Since it’s not a speaker does that mean it can go silent? I rather have no noise than fake noise
@@jackets6426 Pretty much!
@@RosheDomv2 There will be a "Stealth Mode" albeit it will have a mandatory hum for when you're in parking areas
With the StarFox 64 reference tho. ❤
Man I haven’t see you since that one day at the park in Georgia with do it with Dan! Me and my friends were doing orienteering for a competition. You had your blue mustang.
Do you mean they put an inline-six under the hood and forgot to slant it! The only POSITIVE thing about this car is that I'll never own one.