I had a brand new 1998 Ford Mustang...6 cylinder. 150 horses on what I believe was still an old heavy frame. It "looked" awesome. Everyone laughed at how slow it was. One time driving up the mountain to Lake Tahoe with a friend, I swear I could not pull away from other friends in '95 Ford Escort. My buddy said to me, "you're just letting them stay with us, right?" LOL
I had that same engine in my 92 Thunderbird and it was anything but thunder, as it weight close to 4000 lbs with 0-60 in 12 seconds, while the Mustang with this engine was about 10 seconds if I remember correctly.
1989, senior year of HS. had a Fiat X/19 Bertone. 74 thrashing HP that got me to the scorching 60 second mark around 18 seconds. the thing is that it was black, targa and looked like a small Ferrari. some of the dudes with 220hp Mustang GT's would ask to race and I would tell them, "dude, this is an Italian car coming from Bertone, the same factory that makes Lamborghini. i don't race normal cars" to save face considering a riding lawn mower could beat me.
Actually, you're closer than you think to the truth. The X1/9 was designed by Marcello Gandini, the brain behind the Countach and other razor-wedge Lambos. In addition to the body styling, he did the powertrain layout and suspension, being somewhat limited by Fiat's parts bin, which meant the first gen used the 1300 cc engine mated to a 4-speed transaxle from the 128. That's not a bad thing since it (the 128) was one sporty family sedan with a SOHC aluminum engine and full independent suspension. In fact, the entire drivetrain and suspension was moved to the middle of the X1/9, even keeping the steering knuckles, just held in place with rigid struts.
LOL yes one of my best pals in HS in the 1970s had a Fiat X-19 and it did look cool and girls loved it but it basically had the same horsepower as a Singer sowing machine. Good one should have been in the video for sure.
I was the passenger in an Iron Duke Camaro when the driver tried to impress me by (“watch this”) racing a bus… aaaaaand we lost. we got beat by a school bus, and not the short kind either. I’m talking a full length school bus whooped our a$$.
He should be thankful that the Iron Duke 4 was not as woeful as Ford's 250 straight 6 of the late 70's that was only good for 70 HP. Another great achievement of the Malaise Era !
Damn, a four banger...smh In the early 80s I was in the market for a vehicle but being a youngin' the salesman figured his Camero was what I wanted...(NOT!) It had an anemic 6 cyl tied to a crappy automatic trans. He grew ever more annoyed as I kept talking about the power to weight ratio (he didn't know the weight). I ended up with a Scirocco Wolfsburg edition. As long as you kept up the rpm by stirring it with the 5 spd she moved briskly...fun to drive, and more practical for me.
yes getting beat by a school bus in a Camaro is really lame, but in 1985 I worked for Oldsmobile the new Calais was picked for the Indy 500 pace car because of the new Quad 4 engine, it had to go 0 to 120 in 20 seconds, we could not get there, they kept breaking, so the 1985 Indy 500 pace car had an Iron duke, bored stroked milled and ported head custom header it got the job done, GM did not want anyone to know but a lot of time has passed, so the truth will be known LOL!!
In high school in the early 1990s, I raced my buddy in his iron Duke Camaro against my bone stock VW bug, which had all of 60hp when new. I blew his doors off. I really had no idea that Chevrolet made a Camaro that was a full 3 seconds slower to 60 than a beetle - I was well out ahead of him a the gap was just increasing.
I worked for the US Post Office. Our LLVs were powered by the Iron Duke. They turned gasoline into noise, vibration, and harshness...with some HP as a side effect. They were pretty reliable, too, in a "my engine runs like crap longer than yours runs, period" kinda way.
I had a 83 Camaro with the 2.5 or 151 cubic inch 4 cylinder Iron Duke with automatic transmission , I replaced it with a small block V-8 350 and 4 speed standard trans , I have a 92 RS Camaro that I'm doing the same thing too except this one is getting a 5 speed trans .
Here are the honorable mentions: 1. Ferrari Mondial Quattrovalvole 2.9 Liter V8 that produced 240 hp and has a top speed of 149 mph. 2. Volkswagen SP2 1.7 Liter 4-Cylinder engine that produced 75 horsepower and has a top speed of 100 mph. 3. DMC Delorean 2.8 Liter V6 that produced 130 horsepower and has a top speed of 88 mph. Edit: A war broke out in the reply section stating that the delorean can go more than 88 mph. The website I used to write the specs gave me false info so i researched more about the delorean. The DeLorean DMC-12 actually has a top speed of 130 miles per hour (209 km/h), but some tests have shown it can only reach 110-117 miles per hour (177-188 km/h). The DeLorean's speedometer only goes up to 85 miles per hour (138 km/h) to discourage excessive speeding and conserve fuel.
The Deloreon does NOT have a top speed of 88 mph. 88 mph is a reference to the Back to the Future movie where you had to reach that speed in order for the flux capacitor to work.
You're not wrong, but I always figured that if I were to become extremely wealthy, I'd buy something like a Ferrari 488 Pista, drive within the speed limit, and wave politely to the Honda Civic driver as he dashed by at 15 mph over the posited limit on his way to the daily grind.
A few years ago I had a 2000 model V6 Camry with a 5-speed manual. I would surprise many other drivers with its responsiveness because I had no hesitation driving it around well up into the rev range where it made all its power. Most people with their off-the-shelf V8 autos etc would short shift all the time anyway, so they never brought their cars full potential to the table.
My personal amusement when driving is how people corner. I drive nothing special, an old Ford with a somewhat beefy suspension and good tires. Find it amusing how folks zip by in cars with significantly more potential on the straights like they are on their way to something important, only to get to a curve and slow drastically, losing the "lead" they built up 30 seconds earlier. That and folks not knowing the traffic pattern. Bomb it buddy, the light is going to change before you get there. I'll pull up ahead of you in the shorter lane because you didn't have time to react. Trivial, no harm done, but funny. 😊
The 2.5L Iron Duke Camaro existed so that they could claim fuel economy "up to x MPG". Basically they knew few would be sold, but offering it appeased the government EPA fuel ratings requirements. At least that's how it was explained to me years ago.
I bought a 1983 Camaro with the Iron Duke back in the early 2000's for $800. It was a rust free Las Vegas car fully loaded with power everything and cold A/C. I put the "dual" exhaust from the V6 on it to make it look and sound faster. The car was slow but adequate and the girls had no clue what was under the hood. 😅 I am sure if this car survived it has been LS swapped by now but it is probably gone forever.
That's not actually why they stuck the Iron Duke in the F-bodies. CAFE averages aren't vehicle specific. They're _corporate_ average fuel economies, meaning it didn't matter what car the engine ended up in, as long as they offered X amount of cars with that fuel economy. They could've easily just built more Cavaliers and Chevettes. The reason they offered the Iron Duke in the Camaro/Firebirds was because Ford offered the Mustang with a 4 cylinder. Both cars made the same amount of horsepower, but the Mustang had a 700 pound weight advantage over the GMs, so the weak performance was less noticeable on the Mustang. Further misunderstanding the appeal of the base Mustang, GM didn't even bother offering a turbo option on the F-body 4 cylinders. The Turbo SVO Mustang 4 cylinders actually outperformed the 5.0 HO GT Mustangs of the era, so people had a genuine reason to buy 4 cylinder Mustangs. There was zero reason for anyone to buy an Iron Duke Camaro, unless they just cared only about looks and had no concern whatsoever for performance, and decided to save $800 over the V6 or $1000 over the V8.
I would add: 1. Pontiac Fiero - in standard got only 2.5L engine (92HP) but looked like competitor of Lotus Elan at least 2. Mitsuoka Orochi - got only 3.5L (235HP) engine from Honda Legend, but looked like competitor of Lambo Diablo with at least 500HP 3. Ford Capri mk3 - standard version got only 1.3L (72HP) but looked like at least 120HP
@@jayg1438 The GT was actually a great runner. I had a GT-R with 170 STOCk (!) hp. Don't ask me why it was called the GT-R or how come it was tuned to 170 hp.
6:49 don’t talk shit about the mighty Opel GT. To us Europeans it’s not about the speed it’s about the feeling and from what I’ve heard it is actually really fun to drive like you mentioned.
Opel GT was also available with 90hp (which also sold much better) With 90hp and only 900kg, the GT was a fast car at the time that had good handling. People often forget that back in 1968 in Europe it wasn't normal to have a car with over 100 horsepower. Normal People drove an 30HP Beetle or something
Thank you for this. Totally agree. Never owned a sporty car, neither my father, but three different family Opels and they just grow on you. When I bought a Fiat Tipo instead of an Astra (same profile, price, but the Fiat offers more space) I did regret it. And enjoyed the better ergonomics in dad's Astra caravan the few times I got to drive it years later. Moreover, the nice GT doesn't even look really fast, so what's the problem? If anything it looks nimble, which it is (so I gather) and I guess so is the Porsche. I mean look at it, looks like a toy, why would you go over 100-110 mph in a toy??
@@ripvanwinkle2002 It was a very fast car in Europe in that point of time. Keep in mind that many people owned VW Beetles in Europe during the 60’s and 70’s.
From today's perspective, the Porsche 912 and the Opel GT have below-average power, but that was at a time when cars only weighed half as much as they do today and the average European drove a VW Beetle and Citroen 2CV. The Opel GT was available with 60HP and 90HP. The 60HP Engine sold poorly, which is why GM took it off the shelf early on. With 90HP and only 2000 pounds, the GT was a fast car in Europe in the late 1960s
Had a friend with a 912 in high school. It turned heads, and we all thought it was fast, because he would take you on the highway and mash the throttle to the floor for about a minute. My whole generation was mostly ignorant about real speed, just because nothing was fast. I had an Iron duke Fiero. Slow. A V6 Firebird, super slow. Everything on the road was slow back then, so if you could atleast shift the gears, you felt fast.
Btw quality issues didn’t put Bricklin out of business. Malcolm ran out of funds because the Canadian government wouldn’t hold up their part they committed to paying
The back woods Canadian farmers that Bricklin hired knew nothing about building cars... the cars couldn't be brought in under a practical cost... and the workmanship was horrible...
It´s beautiful, but like @drakakaka wrote it was designed in the sixties. Video is bit misleading, since almost all Opel GT´s very 1,9 litre. They were moderately fast for the time.
Take off the solex carb witch was a one barrel carb the car came alive. Had 2 in high school. They were detuned for the states down to 110 hp. Over seas 190 hp Had fun racing mine Once you opened them up they would Rev to 8000 rpm you could shift into 4 gear at 100 mph. Fun little car. That was back in the 80s with today's tech that car would be scary fast .
Yup. I had a '70 GT in the late 80s, guy I bought it from had done a little work to it. Top speed listed at 110, while I never tried to find top speed in mine I can tell you I still had pedal left at 130. Weighing in at about 2,000 pounds that little 1.9 could move it along. It handled so well. Best twenty five hundred dollars I could have spent at the time. I've had much faster cars but still count it as one of the most fun cars I've owned.
The Opel GT (with the 90hp engine) was and still is a zippy little thing. And 90-100km/h in one of those on a twisty backroad feels faster than mostly anything. Same for the original Mini Cooper. I never had such a sensation of speed and agility in a road car as in the Mini. I had more fun throwing this around on a parking lot than I could have had in a 500hp car on a racetrack.
My honorable mentions: 1. Plymouth Prowler - not sooo slow but really isn't as quick as I expected when I was 6. 2. Alfa Romeo Brera - the engines are not so bad but the car was heavy as hell. 3. BMW Z3 at the beginning - 007's car with a top engine of 1.9litre and less then 150 hp. +1: Trans-Am-s. I was disappointed when I realized that the fastest looking cars ever, driven hard on screen by The Bandit and Michael Knight, were basically pretty slow cars.
@@erics8192 ..True,but the Prowler was done more as a experiment,all aluminum body and chassis...Lots of the engineers who worked on the Prowler were hired by Ford to make the aluminum F series trucks... I dont think they expected high sales from that car anyways,but I wish it had a V8 and a stick.
The Camaro brings back nightmares! I had a 83 Firebird with the Iron Duke and it couldn't get out of it's own way! Drove it for a while, then ripped it out for a 5.7 tuned port engine/trans. Much better!
One of the secret cars is I believe a Ferrari Mondial, notorious for being a glorified Dino and not being very good, also being the cheapest one. The other one is the DeLorean
My mother had a 912 Porsche, here in Northern Europe, it was Irish green, we had many great holidays with that car we went all over Europe in her in the early 70s, it was extremely good in deep snow .
Why nobody remembers the 912: At around 1950 or so, the half-life of a car was 8 years. The chassis most often rotten. 911 was later, but still. So, what do you do? 912 are abundant and 911 engines still fine. Pineapple, pen, voila.
Can't stay quiet on that one :) I owned a Celica GT, but in France the car was slightly better because US model was more restricted for pollution. Having a V8 under 100hp is quite a shame but a NA 4 cylinder with 145hp on a car just over 2000 lbs and a great, precise chassis is only slow in straight, for a young driver in mountain roads, the car wasn't slow by any means and very good to learn, this car made my days, very good all rounder, good daily and good to have fun with, very reliable (250k miles on the clock and was still runing perfect when i sold it). It was a very good car for a sporty little coupe.
@@Kilb-ill Quick is nothing to do with top speed. Quick is all about acceleration. Exactly how many countries have roads with a speed limit close to 115 mph/185 kph?
Highschool in the 90's my friend bought an 80's iroc camero. Looked sweet, but when he got smoked off the line by a soccer mom in a bland grocery getter, while her kids laughed and pointed... He sold it and bought a late 80's Monte Carlo SS. 👍
I remember back when I was shopping for my first new car in 1982. A coworker, who drove Fiats, suggested a Camaro with a 4 cylinder engine and a 4 speed manual. I never once considered it...
It was all the smog stuff. My brother made good money taking care of that for you. Good mechanic, and as long as you dont live where they smog test it worked great. And nothing wrong with a Ford 351W, id take that over a chevy 350 all day.
The S660 Mugen might be slow, but I honestly liked it. It's like a modern day Suzuki Cappuccino. Okay, I'm suspect to say that, after all, Honda is my favorite car company, but still, the S660 Mugen is cool, regardless if it's a Honda, or not
You'd probably like my custom MUGEN '09 TSX (in chrysler subLime custom paint w/ blacked out trim and wheels and MUGEN body kit and engine mods). Had it since brand new... slowly modded along the way ... ~110k miles on it.
One of my aunts had an iron duke Firebird of that same era, there was this one steep road in town and it literally could barely make it to the top, even came too a full stop a few times 😂
My friend owned an 87 Cutlass Ciera with the Iron Duke engine. Nice reliable economy motor but not a big HP performer or anything. I used to tease my friend and called his car the Gutless Ciera. lol
Who was "laughing" at the Corvette when it was making smog power? No one else was doing any better during that time. Doing so would be a hell of a -"stove- pot calling the kettle black" situation.
yes they were. 150 hp from a 5.7 litre v8 is pathetic. the same power from a 2 litre inline 4 is alright (for a car designed for economy). also its pot, not stove. pot calling the kettle black.
@@hjalleson309 shit man, I'm driving a 1995 GMC Sierra with a 5.7 and I'm only making around 200hp. Sure, I like the torque it makes, cause it only revs to 4500rpm, but still. Only 200hp for a 350 cubic inch V8? Pathetic. Just like my old 1989 Ford E250. It had a 5.8/351windsor. It made the same horsepower as my current truck, but around 40 less torque. Every single V8 powered American vehicle from 1975 all the way to 1998 all made TERRIBLE horsepower, TERRIBLE torque, and got TERRIBLE gas mileage. T NONE OF THEM made enough power to justify getting such horrendous MPGs
@@glenw-xm5zfThey are hellish enthusiast cars, though. Very mod-friendly. While Fox body Mustangs had an issue of blocks cracking past a certain HP threshold, IROCs could be pushed real hard with mods.
In Norse mythology, Odin's ravens were named Hugin and Munin. Along with the actual Japanese word, the people who named it couldn't have been unfamiliar with those. Afterall, if you combine them, you basically get a homophone of mugen.
I drive a 2014 Camaro base model with manual trans 3.6 V6... It is rated 323 base HP, the gearing in that car sets you back in the seat, she top ends at 120 mph fuel limiter with room to go on the tachometer... (if I remember right that top end was 120 I feathered it 125 of course had to watch the road Tach was at 4.5) She is my sweetheart. All these others are great, fast/slow, beautiful. Great vid. Thanks!
I own a Celica GT with the small 1zz, but I have to add, yeah it suck that is slow, but remeber that this was the first generation of celica that doesnt have the GT Four rally version. In the past, look at the 5th and 6th generation, regular models were slower than the GT. In return, the GTS come with a 2ZZ which was a faster car than the GT 86... which is kinda sad again. But the Celicas were never sport cars, they were only sporty cars, and no most minivans doesnt beat even the 1zz, maybe in the US where every car have a fucking V8 but here in EU they are still decent. And the handling is amazing on the car, we could call the Miata slow too, just because its slower than a v8 minivan...
The Celica GT Manual is a completely different car than the auto. While still not fast by any means, the auto box in those cars was hot trash. A manual GT would outrun an auto GTS every day of the week
Agree with the posts above. I owned a 2000 Toyota GT. Was not fast per se, but was quick as hell. Someone else mentioned it, it cornered like a bastard, so light and nimble. I can liken it to driving a real life Super Mario Cart. 140HP and 120-130 ft lbs of torque got a VERY light car moving pretty quickly. It only weighed @2400 pounds - or less than 1.1 tons metric. 0-60 (100kmph) was about 7 to 8 seconds, and can get to 90-05 mph in a quarter mile. Not terrible for the base GT. I had a lot of fun in that little zippy. The Celica/ Miata/ MR2 Spyder or S2000 were all peers and were a blast to drive.
My first Porsche was a 68 912 identical to the one featured. I bought it in 1977 for $2700 which back then was a fair amount of money. It had 60k miles on it and was in great shape. It replaced my 75 Triumph TR-6 so l was used to slow but unlike the TR the 912 never broke! In two years l put almost 50k miles and put tires brakes and exhaust. Being young and dumb l had to have a 911 so l sold it and bought a 69 911. Everyone though l just got the 912 painted. The second car in honorable mentions, is that the South American sporty looking VW coupe with Beetle underpinnings?
I can definitely vouch for the "LOOKS fast" of the Celica. I used to own an '04 GT-S (with the "Aggression Package" body kit and 6-speed manual). An absolute JOY to drive for a FWD sports hatchback, and it handled like a dream, and I could squeeze three friends in the car with me (sorry to the folks in the rear), but even the GT-S was not fast in a straight line or off the line, and only felt fast in the high-rev band and taking corners (which it did quite well). I think my 0-60 time was
Yeah, they're reliable engines. Just not feasible power these days for driving in heavy city traffic when jerks are trying to cut in front of you all the time. You have to be able to keep up or the people behind you will get upset.
My first car was a 1978 Camaro with 250 CID inline 6. It was 8 years old when I got it. If minted condition it was 110 hp. It was the slowest accelerating car I’ve ever owned and my current car is a Hyundai Elantra.
Here's one for ya, Mitsubishi 3000GT (base models from '97-'99). They were equipped with a SOHC version of the 6G72 and put out a dismal 161HP. Good on gas but very slow. Same can be said about the Dodge Stealth ES.
I gotta say that the dog 4 banger from GM at that time period was actually a really dependable engine. I had a 87 S-10 pickup with that 4 banger and a 5 speed. Wouldn't go past 80 mph but the body rotted off and the engine went on to live in the neighbors truck for years after. Im a FoMoCo guy but I must say dependable engines are valuable in their own way. But your correct, power wise it was a dog.
My brother bought an "Iron Duke" with 27K on it in the mid 90s. Slowest car I had ever been in, even slower when you switched on the A/C, but it was pristine. We drove it straight to his garage and ripped the engine and trans out, dropped in a hot small block and a 700R4 from his Trans Am that he rolled the week before. So I LOVE the fact that you could find a Camaro a decade later with no twist or torque damage in the body, its like it was a preserved rolling chassis from the factory.
I had an '84 Z28 with the HO 5.0L and 5-speed. It wasn't burning up the asphalt either. However, the Gen 3 Camaro is still my favorite and although not fast by today's standards, it looks way better than the new ones and like most small block Chevys, they can be made fast easily.
They introduced the 350 IROC-Z later, though. And while it wasn't the fastest muscle car around stock, the L98 350 was simply a very choked engine with high potential. Exhaust mods, chip tuning, supercharger and a T56 transmission swap turn it into a monster.
I had an 87 IROC with the 350 TPI. It was a fun car. Period. Really nice throttle response, very punchy. I could give a sh*t less about 1/4 mile or 0-60. And the TPI was a beautiful setup to see when you opened the hood. Unlike the ugly LS that followed in 4th gens.
Hey, the girly version of the MR2 was actually a lot of fun to drive, especially with the autostick transmission - was just like the shifter I had on my Gran Turismo video game steering wheel. I remember being excited when that Celica came out. It LOOKED fast, but as is mentioned in the video, just wasn't.
You're totally wrong about the Opel GT! The C3 design is a copy of the Opel GT, so the complete opposite of what you're telling...and Opel also was part of GM. And the GT was mainly produced for european roads...🙄 And there was a 1.9L version, too. Fun fact...even the 60bhp version can legaly drive faster in Germany, than any American muscle car ever was capable of or allowed to in the US. 🤣
You do realize that in America, anyone that anyone that wants to, can take their car to a track and go as fast as they want? Or that we have highways that aren't speed limited, just like the Autobahn? And I'm not sure what you mean by no American cars being capable of driving as fast as an Opel GT? The Opel GT had a top theoretical speed of 96 mph back when all American cars were capable of doing a minimum of 120mph. It's almost like you know nothing about America, yet are speaking as though you are an expert on all things Americana. Germany über alles, amirite?
@@RockandrollNegro You're so funny...! 🥱 🥱🥱 But it seems that your knowledge is not the yellow from the egg, funny boy...You're the proof, that Trump made America "great" again. 😂
@@RockandrollNegro "The Opel GT had a top theoretical speed of 96 mph back when all American cars were capable of doing a minimum of 120mph" Yea they could go to 120 but guzzled fuel like a tank, it`s mind boggling how the hell they managed to extract 120-130Hp from damn 5-6L engine, ridiculous.
The Corvette C3 was based on the 1962 XP755 concept car. Design began on the C3 in 1964 and went into production in 1967, which was a few months before the Opel GT. The design of the first Opel GT began in 1965. Just about any production vehicle has a top speed higher than is advisable on public roads and almost every production vehicle can take corners at the posted legal speed limit.
That slow Camaro was slower than a Geo! You forgot to mention the Chevy Cavalier with 96 turtle 🐢 power. With feeble engine mounts, the mini car felt like breaking apart when trying to reach 80 mph. Cavaliers were the cheap car biggest headache of GM (specially those made in Mexico, Ay, mamita!)
I remember a Bricklin ad from the 70s. The slogan was "You'll think it's ahead of its time. We think it's about time." The SV in the designation is for Safety Vehicle.
@@billyclub9733it's officially recorded that he not only fell asleep in court nearly daily but when he was asleep, he began farting. Don't want to believe it? Fine, but you can look it up for yourself Oh yeah and he was convicted on every single count in that very same case. So yeah, first US president to ever be convicted of a felony, 34 of them to be exact. Sorry bud, it's now recorded history
We’ll see who gets the last laugh. Because of the narrator’s comment alluding to our President being “slow”, he has been flagged. This type of unfounded disrespect for President Biden (and President elect Harris) needs to be moderated.
It's dope that you modified it. I had one that I traded because I didn't want to put any crazy money into it... should've just kept it and done the same thing.
Why? For lying about things? No 3rd gen Z28 like the ones he pictured EVER came with the iron Duke 4 cylinder. I know. I've owned around a dozen 3rd gens. That was the base model economy camaro which was NEVER a muscle car.
Like your channel Stype, even the toilet humor 🙂 But a factcheck: the Opel GT is indeed based on the Opel Kadett B, but Hammonds car is the Kadett A (really really old). Keep up the good work !
They're not too bad in 0-100 as it does it in 6 seconds. Thats not the worst and there are modern cars that are still slower than that. You won't get better handling than that though
Friend in high school had a four cylinder Camaro. I beat him all the time in my VW bug. Also left friends with jeeps broken in the woods. Beetles could also be bought for a few hundred dollars back then.
Back in the early nineties, I rented a house. My landlord was a mechanic and one of his customers owed him some money. So the guy gave my landlord his red Bricklin SV-1 as payment. It was parked in my garage. He wanted $4,000 for it. I should have bought the POS. Nice conversation piece.
My cousin had a 4 banger Camaro. We used to take it on 300 mile road trips, each way, from LA to the Colorado River, for weekends. We had an old pickup and boat that was stored at my uncle's house there. That Camaro was great on gas, and...once you got it going, would run 80 across the desert. Sluggish, but bullettproof!!! Saved us a ton of gas money, over the years. Dumb, but great car. 🤣
- 2nd gen Mitsubishi Eclipse RS automatic. This generation of DSM was gorgeous, but 140 HP and a 90s 4-speed transmission had to have made it dog slow. - Marty McFly's 1985 Toyota SR5 Xtra Cab. The movie series establishes that Marty somehow crashed his while drag racing against Flea in a squarebody even though Toyota pickups at the time came equipped with a 22RE making 113 HP and couldn't have gone fast enough to hit anything at speed.
Back in the day, a neighbor of mine bought a 4 cyl Camaro "Iron Duke". When it was driving up the street, it sounded for all the world like a sewing machine!
hahahah the celica is pretty funny, when I was a kid I thought they were fast, but it's the same engine as the corolla basically. I still like the car, though because the engine will outlast me. obviously fast cars are better but it's fun to have a not so fast car and constantly push it to 60mph hahahah
He just denied proclaiming Easter "transgender day of visibility" fvcking 24 hours later. He ain't in control of anything. Barry Soetoro holdovers were reinstalled when The Potatoe was implemented.
Comparing economy cars to their performance counterparts and old cars to new cars and act dismayed when they’re slower. The mid 70s were the dark ages for fast cars. By the mid 80s things were getting brighter, and each decade since has been even brighter. I must add that 3rd Gen Camaros, especially IROCs and Z28s with LB9 5.0 and definitely the L98 5.7 we’re not slow comparatively to other cars of the time, they fit in where all the top of the line Camaros have from Gen 1 to Gen 6. I had several of these cars and have fond memories of dusting 300ZXs, Fox body 5.0s, new era Cobras, the fastest 3rd Gen I had was a 91 Z28 5.7 TPI, it was fast af for the early 90s, and with bolt ons, cam, heads, exhaust and 3.73s was still hurting feelings in the 2000s, miss my baby.
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@@Lucek_RS look up the toyota lineup and be done with it
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I had a brand new 1998 Ford Mustang...6 cylinder. 150 horses on what I believe was still an old heavy frame. It "looked" awesome. Everyone laughed at how slow it was. One time driving up the mountain to Lake Tahoe with a friend, I swear I could not pull away from other friends in '95 Ford Escort. My buddy said to me, "you're just letting them stay with us, right?" LOL
I had that same engine in my 92 Thunderbird and it was anything but thunder, as it weight close to 4000 lbs with 0-60 in 12 seconds, while the Mustang with this engine was about 10 seconds if I remember correctly.
1989, senior year of HS. had a Fiat X/19 Bertone. 74 thrashing HP that got me to the scorching 60 second mark around 18 seconds. the thing is that it was black, targa and looked like a small Ferrari. some of the dudes with 220hp Mustang GT's would ask to race and I would tell them, "dude, this is an Italian car coming from Bertone, the same factory that makes Lamborghini. i don't race normal cars" to save face considering a riding lawn mower could beat me.
Actually, you're closer than you think to the truth. The X1/9 was designed by Marcello Gandini, the brain behind the Countach and other razor-wedge Lambos. In addition to the body styling, he did the powertrain layout and suspension, being somewhat limited by Fiat's parts bin, which meant the first gen used the 1300 cc engine mated to a 4-speed transaxle from the 128. That's not a bad thing since it (the 128) was one sporty family sedan with a SOHC aluminum engine and full independent suspension. In fact, the entire drivetrain and suspension was moved to the middle of the X1/9, even keeping the steering knuckles, just held in place with rigid struts.
Just to let you know I had a VW rabbit that made 50HP. Granted it was diesel.
LOL yes one of my best pals in HS in the 1970s had a Fiat X-19 and it did look cool and girls loved it but it basically had the same horsepower as a Singer sowing machine. Good one should have been in the video for sure.
I have a 78, I wanna make it fast, but I just tell people it is, lol, I don't race my buddies cars, and one has a Geo Metro and another has an Integra
I had a golf. Diesel that had 55 hp. @@timothyprice9064
I was the passenger in an Iron Duke Camaro when the driver tried to impress me by (“watch this”) racing a bus… aaaaaand we lost. we got beat by a school bus, and not the short kind either. I’m talking a full length school bus whooped our a$$.
Lol! What was your friend's reaction afterwards?
He should be thankful that the Iron Duke 4 was not as woeful as Ford's 250 straight 6 of the late 70's that was only good for 70 HP. Another great achievement of the Malaise Era !
Damn, a four banger...smh In the early 80s I was in the market for a vehicle but being a youngin' the salesman figured his Camero was what I wanted...(NOT!) It had an anemic 6 cyl tied to a crappy automatic trans. He grew ever more annoyed as I kept talking about the power to weight ratio (he didn't know the weight). I ended up with a Scirocco Wolfsburg edition. As long as you kept up the rpm by stirring it with the 5 spd she moved briskly...fun to drive, and more practical for me.
@@Evom777 I'd be impressed on how abysmal the performance is.
yes getting beat by a school bus in a Camaro is really lame, but in 1985 I worked for Oldsmobile the new Calais was picked for the Indy 500 pace car because of the new Quad 4 engine, it had to go 0 to 120 in 20 seconds, we could not get there, they kept breaking, so the 1985 Indy 500 pace car had an Iron duke, bored stroked milled and ported head custom header it got the job done, GM did not want anyone to know but a lot of time has passed, so the truth will be known LOL!!
In high school in the early 1990s, I raced my buddy in his iron Duke Camaro against my bone stock VW bug, which had all of 60hp when new. I blew his doors off. I really had no idea that Chevrolet made a Camaro that was a full 3 seconds slower to 60 than a beetle - I was well out ahead of him a the gap was just increasing.
I worked for the US Post Office. Our LLVs were powered by the Iron Duke. They turned gasoline into noise, vibration, and harshness...with some HP as a side effect. They were pretty reliable, too, in a "my engine runs like crap longer than yours runs, period" kinda way.
I had a 83 Camaro with the 2.5 or 151 cubic inch 4 cylinder Iron Duke with automatic transmission ,
I replaced it with a small block V-8 350 and 4 speed standard trans ,
I have a 92 RS Camaro that I'm doing the same thing too except this one is getting a 5 speed trans .
Why can't you just drive at the speed limit.
I had a '75 VW Sirocco , I used to love challenge late '70's Corvettes. They were faster but they weren't as quick.
Here are the honorable mentions:
1. Ferrari Mondial Quattrovalvole
2.9 Liter V8 that produced 240 hp and has a top speed of 149 mph.
2. Volkswagen SP2
1.7 Liter 4-Cylinder engine that produced 75 horsepower and has a top speed of 100 mph.
3. DMC Delorean
2.8 Liter V6 that produced 130 horsepower and has a top speed of 88 mph.
Edit: A war broke out in the reply section stating that the delorean can go more than 88 mph. The website I used to write the specs gave me false info so i researched more about the delorean.
The DeLorean DMC-12 actually has a top speed of 130 miles per hour (209 km/h), but some tests have shown it can only reach 110-117 miles per hour (177-188 km/h). The DeLorean's speedometer only goes up to 85 miles per hour (138 km/h) to discourage excessive speeding and conserve fuel.
Delorean goes over 88 lol about 110 mph
The Deloreon does NOT have a top speed of 88 mph. 88 mph is a reference to the Back to the Future movie where you had to reach that speed in order for the flux capacitor to work.
DeLoreans have a max of about 130mph manual/110mph slushmatic I believe
@@Sailed_away thats a turbo tho. na enigines normally dont get more than 100hp per litre except for very expensive or racing ones.
@@Sailed_away this is NA, and a very small V8 at that. Look at a 190hp 8.2l malaise spec Cadillac Eldorado if you want to laugh
Often it's more fun to drive a slow car quick than a quick car slow!
Brilliant
You're not wrong, but I always figured that if I were to become extremely wealthy, I'd buy something like a Ferrari 488 Pista, drive within the speed limit, and wave politely to the Honda Civic driver as he dashed by at 15 mph over the posited limit on his way to the daily grind.
A few years ago I had a 2000 model V6 Camry with a 5-speed manual. I would surprise many other drivers with its responsiveness because I had no hesitation driving it around well up into the rev range where it made all its power. Most people with their off-the-shelf V8 autos etc would short shift all the time anyway, so they never brought their cars full potential to the table.
My personal amusement when driving is how people corner. I drive nothing special, an old Ford with a somewhat beefy suspension and good tires. Find it amusing how folks zip by in cars with significantly more potential on the straights like they are on their way to something important, only to get to a curve and slow drastically, losing the "lead" they built up 30 seconds earlier. That and folks not knowing the traffic pattern. Bomb it buddy, the light is going to change before you get there. I'll pull up ahead of you in the shorter lane because you didn't have time to react. Trivial, no harm done, but funny. 😊
@@jeffreybaker4399 Haha yep. Those people are often the same ones who don't look any further ahead than the rear bumper of the car in front.
The 2.5L Iron Duke Camaro existed so that they could claim fuel economy "up to x MPG". Basically they knew few would be sold, but offering it appeased the government EPA fuel ratings requirements. At least that's how it was explained to me years ago.
They also put the 2.5L iron duke in the firebird.
I bought a 1983 Camaro with the Iron Duke back in the early 2000's for $800. It was a rust free Las Vegas car fully loaded with power everything and cold A/C. I put the "dual" exhaust from the V6 on it to make it look and sound faster. The car was slow but adequate and the girls had no clue what was under the hood. 😅 I am sure if this car survived it has been LS swapped by now but it is probably gone forever.
That's not actually why they stuck the Iron Duke in the F-bodies. CAFE averages aren't vehicle specific. They're _corporate_ average fuel economies, meaning it didn't matter what car the engine ended up in, as long as they offered X amount of cars with that fuel economy. They could've easily just built more Cavaliers and Chevettes.
The reason they offered the Iron Duke in the Camaro/Firebirds was because Ford offered the Mustang with a 4 cylinder. Both cars made the same amount of horsepower, but the Mustang had a 700 pound weight advantage over the GMs, so the weak performance was less noticeable on the Mustang. Further misunderstanding the appeal of the base Mustang, GM didn't even bother offering a turbo option on the F-body 4 cylinders. The Turbo SVO Mustang 4 cylinders actually outperformed the 5.0 HO GT Mustangs of the era, so people had a genuine reason to buy 4 cylinder Mustangs. There was zero reason for anyone to buy an Iron Duke Camaro, unless they just cared only about looks and had no concern whatsoever for performance, and decided to save $800 over the V6 or $1000 over the V8.
That is why Chevy has 2.7 L fours in a full size truck.
@@lrich8181 At least that four has 310 HP and 420 lbs of torque with a turbo.
I would add:
1. Pontiac Fiero - in standard got only 2.5L engine (92HP) but looked like competitor of Lotus Elan at least
2. Mitsuoka Orochi - got only 3.5L (235HP) engine from Honda Legend, but looked like competitor of Lambo Diablo with at least 500HP
3. Ford Capri mk3 - standard version got only 1.3L (72HP) but looked like at least 120HP
thank you was shocked it took this many comments to find the Pontiac Fiero
@@jayg1438 The GT was actually a great runner. I had a GT-R with 170 STOCk (!) hp. Don't ask me why it was called the GT-R or how come it was tuned to 170 hp.
The Saab Sonett 3 looked quick, but with 65 HP it struggled to do 0-60 in 15 seconds when new
I bet it was not slow back then in early 70s, according to European standards.
@@laszlobalogh7112it tops at around 102 mph
Kind of the same story with the Volkswagen Karmann-Ghia, which was essentially a WV beetle with a sporty body.
6:49 don’t talk shit about the mighty Opel GT. To us Europeans it’s not about the speed it’s about the feeling and from what I’ve heard it is actually really fun to drive like you mentioned.
Opel GT was also available with 90hp (which also sold much better) With 90hp and only 900kg, the GT was a fast car at the time that had good handling.
People often forget that back in 1968 in Europe it wasn't normal to have a car with over 100 horsepower.
Normal People drove an 30HP Beetle or something
Everyone, who drives it, says it's very fast 90hp.
Thank you for this. Totally agree. Never owned a sporty car, neither my father, but three different family Opels and they just grow on you. When I bought a Fiat Tipo instead of an Astra (same profile, price, but the Fiat offers more space) I did regret it. And enjoyed the better ergonomics in dad's Astra caravan the few times I got to drive it years later.
Moreover, the nice GT doesn't even look really fast, so what's the problem? If anything it looks nimble, which it is (so I gather) and I guess so is the Porsche. I mean look at it, looks like a toy, why would you go over 100-110 mph in a toy??
IT WAS SLOW, BUT LOOKED FAST...
there is no raging around that fact mate.
@@ripvanwinkle2002 It was a very fast car in Europe in that point of time. Keep in mind that many people owned VW Beetles in Europe during the 60’s and 70’s.
From today's perspective, the Porsche 912 and the Opel GT have below-average power, but that was at a time when cars only weighed half as much as they do today and the average European drove a VW Beetle and Citroen 2CV.
The Opel GT was available with 60HP and 90HP.
The 60HP Engine sold poorly, which is why GM took it off the shelf early on.
With 90HP and only 2000 pounds, the GT was a fast car in Europe in the late 1960s
Had a friend with a 912 in high school. It turned heads, and we all thought it was fast, because he would take you on the highway and mash the throttle to the floor for about a minute. My whole generation was mostly ignorant about real speed, just because nothing was fast. I had an Iron duke Fiero. Slow. A V6 Firebird, super slow. Everything on the road was slow back then, so if you could atleast shift the gears, you felt fast.
Btw quality issues didn’t put Bricklin out of business. Malcolm ran out of funds because the Canadian government wouldn’t hold up their part they committed to paying
The back woods Canadian farmers that Bricklin hired knew nothing about building cars... the cars couldn't be brought in under a practical cost... and the workmanship was horrible...
a guy bought a 2liter mustang... man a 2 LITER MUSTANG!
It's more funny to drive a car that looks slow, but is very fast.
" Rand lover " is just insane 😂
Land Rover's Chinese knockoff actually names Land Wind 😆
If I owned a "Rand Lover," I'd be SO tempted to add a "y" to "Rand."
I guess it is the number one choice for all Ayn Rand fans.
Rots of ruck buddy.
The shit winds are blowin Rand.
Opel GT is probably one of the best 70's car designs.
Except it was a 60's design so it wasn't. First generation Manta was a similar 70's design but without the party trick headlights.
It´s beautiful, but like @drakakaka wrote it was designed in the sixties. Video is bit misleading, since almost all Opel GT´s very 1,9 litre. They were moderately fast for the time.
Take off the solex carb witch was a one barrel carb the car came alive. Had 2 in high school. They were detuned for the states down to 110 hp. Over seas 190 hp
Had fun racing mine
Once you opened them up they would Rev to 8000 rpm you could shift into 4 gear at 100 mph. Fun little car. That was back in the 80s with today's tech that car would be scary fast .
Yup. I had a '70 GT in the late 80s, guy I bought it from had done a little work to it. Top speed listed at 110, while I never tried to find top speed in mine I can tell you I still had pedal left at 130. Weighing in at about 2,000 pounds that little 1.9 could move it along. It handled so well. Best twenty five hundred dollars I could have spent at the time. I've had much faster cars but still count it as one of the most fun cars I've owned.
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I think Hyundai Tiburon will fit into this category.Looks sporty, but in fact really slow, but fun to drive.
1990 version was so odd looking
Also cursed with a transverse front wheel drive powertrain.
The Opel GT (with the 90hp engine) was and still is a zippy little thing. And 90-100km/h in one of those on a twisty backroad feels faster than mostly anything. Same for the original Mini Cooper. I never had such a sensation of speed and agility in a road car as in the Mini. I had more fun throwing this around on a parking lot than I could have had in a 500hp car on a racetrack.
I used to drive my friend's old Mini in the late 90s. You're absolutely correct.
As a Toyota Prius who catfishes people as a Lexus LFA, I would like to say I am very fast
You have almost 50 comments on this channel
This is your 48th comment
@@srihariandcodoes that matter??
@@whoisit8978 no? How did I offend you by saying someone has 48 comments on a TH-cam channel?
@@srihariandco oh yeah
My honorable mentions:
1. Plymouth Prowler - not sooo slow but really isn't as quick as I expected when I was 6.
2. Alfa Romeo Brera - the engines are not so bad but the car was heavy as hell.
3. BMW Z3 at the beginning - 007's car with a top engine of 1.9litre and less then 150 hp.
+1: Trans-Am-s. I was disappointed when I realized that the fastest looking cars ever, driven hard on screen by The Bandit and Michael Knight, were basically pretty slow cars.
prowler might have sold if it had a v8 and a manual
At the time 5.5 sec 0-60 was really good for new cars of that era..Cars since 2015 went insane!
@@erics8192 ..True,but the Prowler was done more as a experiment,all aluminum body and chassis...Lots of the engineers who worked on the Prowler were hired by Ford to make the aluminum F series trucks...
I dont think they expected high sales from that car anyways,but I wish it had a V8 and a stick.
Depending on which motor was in the trans am. Some of them were fast.
don't forget the toyota gt86
I needed this video, now i don't feel as bad about my 85hp Skoda Fabia anymore :D
1.4tdi?if u have that motor, its extra good and reliable
The Camaro brings back nightmares! I had a 83 Firebird with the Iron Duke and it couldn't get out of it's own way! Drove it for a while, then ripped it out for a 5.7 tuned port engine/trans. Much better!
One of the secret cars is I believe a Ferrari Mondial, notorious for being a glorified Dino and not being very good, also being the cheapest one. The other one is the DeLorean
The Pope had a Mondial tho. Good bit of celebrity endorsement
I thought of ferrari 258
@@DittoGTIprincess Diana had an Audi Cabriolet.
@@briankissel7661And a custom MK1 Rangey
@@DittoGTIthat old school hottie had taste.
My mother had a 912 Porsche, here in Northern Europe, it was Irish green, we had many great holidays with that car we went all over Europe in her in the early 70s, it was extremely good in deep snow .
This feels like a pt2 of the “Top 7 Slow Sporty Cars”
Why nobody remembers the 912: At around 1950 or so, the half-life of a car was 8 years. The chassis most often rotten. 911 was later, but still. So, what do you do? 912 are abundant and 911 engines still fine. Pineapple, pen, voila.
The Porsche 912 was an entry level 911 from 1965 to 1969 or so. Was a budget minded option but not a bad car per se.
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Can't stay quiet on that one :) I owned a Celica GT, but in France the car was slightly better because US model was more restricted for pollution. Having a V8 under 100hp is quite a shame but a NA 4 cylinder with 145hp on a car just over 2000 lbs and a great, precise chassis is only slow in straight, for a young driver in mountain roads, the car wasn't slow by any means and very good to learn, this car made my days, very good all rounder, good daily and good to have fun with, very reliable (250k miles on the clock and was still runing perfect when i sold it). It was a very good car for a sporty little coupe.
8:00 The Opel GT was also available in a 1900 cc version.
Which still was not quick.
better grab the steering wheel and hold on
@rich7447 well it goes nearly a 115 mph, which is faster than most Americans will ever drive 😅
@@Kilb-ill Quick is nothing to do with top speed. Quick is all about acceleration.
Exactly how many countries have roads with a speed limit close to 115 mph/185 kph?
@@rich7447 You know Opel is a German company? Ever heard of the Autobahn?
Highschool in the 90's my friend bought an 80's iroc camero. Looked sweet, but when he got smoked off the line by a soccer mom in a bland grocery getter, while her kids laughed and pointed... He sold it and bought a late 80's Monte Carlo SS. 👍
Was it a 5.0L or a 5.7L? The 5.0L was an abomination of an engine. 5.7L was a good engine tied to a shitty auto transmission.
@@Admiral_Bongo Not sure. But it was slow.
The grocery getter was probably like many others.. A sleeper with a big block, lol. The kids knew it, that's why they were laughing 😂😂
the monte had the same motor and was heavier than the camaro
@@frankmartines3595 The Monte was also the fastest production car of it's year I believe, and he ended doing a bunch of performance upgrades to boot.
Plymouth Prowler, Mustang Cobra II and 6.6L Trans Am should be on this list, or at least honorable mention IMO.
Easily the Mustang Cobra II. Great styling, looked potent sitting still. The problem was that its top end was "sitting still."
Except V6 Plymouth/Chrysler Prowler was faster than new 4000 lb. 2 seater T-Bird w/ V8...
I remember back when I was shopping for my first new car in 1982. A coworker, who drove Fiats, suggested a Camaro with a 4 cylinder engine and a 4 speed manual. I never once considered it...
It was all the smog stuff. My brother made good money taking care of that for you. Good mechanic, and as long as you dont live where they smog test it worked great. And nothing wrong with a Ford 351W, id take that over a chevy 350 all day.
The heads on most 351Ws limited power to 250 HP or less... even with added go fast goodies...
The standard Hyundai Veloster is also pretty slow but looks fast
...and cheaply built. I mean like tin can cheap.
The S660 Mugen might be slow, but I honestly liked it. It's like a modern day Suzuki Cappuccino. Okay, I'm suspect to say that, after all, Honda is my favorite car company, but still, the S660 Mugen is cool, regardless if it's a Honda, or not
I think a better comparison may be a miata?
@@Sailed_awaymiata isn't a kei car, Suzuki Coopen is more similar
@@IrfanArio95 yeah not a kei car but it's appeal is more or less similar i guess ?
You'd probably like my custom MUGEN '09 TSX (in chrysler subLime custom paint w/ blacked out trim and wheels and MUGEN body kit and engine mods). Had it since brand new... slowly modded along the way ... ~110k miles on it.
That’s what we had back then and the challenge for performance was awesome!
One of my aunts had an iron duke Firebird of that same era, there was this one steep road in town and it literally could barely make it to the top, even came too a full stop a few times 😂
My friend owned an 87 Cutlass Ciera with the Iron Duke engine. Nice reliable economy motor but not a big HP performer or anything. I used to tease my friend and called his car the Gutless Ciera. lol
The fiirst car I drove was a Triumph Spitfire. Not much power but in the twisties that car would stick to the ground like no other car I've driven.
Who was "laughing" at the Corvette when it was making smog power? No one else was doing any better during that time. Doing so would be a hell of a -"stove- pot calling the kettle black" situation.
Saab, Volvo, BMW with their small (2.0,2.3)turbo engines....... So, i think europeans did.
You must have forgotten about the Porsche 930 Turbo.
@@YernBelfus400 💪
yes they were. 150 hp from a 5.7 litre v8 is pathetic. the same power from a 2 litre inline 4 is alright (for a car designed for economy). also its pot, not stove. pot calling the kettle black.
@@hjalleson309 shit man, I'm driving a 1995 GMC Sierra with a 5.7 and I'm only making around 200hp. Sure, I like the torque it makes, cause it only revs to 4500rpm, but still. Only 200hp for a 350 cubic inch V8? Pathetic. Just like my old 1989 Ford E250. It had a 5.8/351windsor. It made the same horsepower as my current truck, but around 40 less torque.
Every single V8 powered American vehicle from 1975 all the way to 1998 all made TERRIBLE horsepower, TERRIBLE torque, and got TERRIBLE gas mileage. T NONE OF THEM made enough power to justify getting such horrendous MPGs
About the MUGEN S660 - they also released S1000 with iirc 130 hp and weighing about 2000 lbs (900 kg) makes for a great competitor to the MX-5
80s Camaros weren't fast, they were BITCHIN'!
"Bitchin"
Is that American for shit?
But these with V8s are enjoyable to ride. ❤
Seriously, they were slugs on wheels
@@glenw-xm5zfThey are hellish enthusiast cars, though. Very mod-friendly. While Fox body Mustangs had an issue of blocks cracking past a certain HP threshold, IROCs could be pushed real hard with mods.
I understood that reference!
Well chosen selections with expertly detailed stats to support the humorous enjoyment of waiting for the next slow car. Well done!
The absolute intelligence in this video is too high for a mere mortal like me to comprehend...
2:00 The Bricklin went out of production when all the assembly workers quit when they worked enough to qualify for unemployment insurance checks.
Oh Canada...
In Norse mythology, Odin's ravens were named Hugin and Munin. Along with the actual Japanese word, the people who named it couldn't have been unfamiliar with those. Afterall, if you combine them, you basically get a homophone of mugen.
Love all the pop culture references. Especially Austin Powers
Honorable mentions:
1. Ferrari Mondial
2. VW SP2
3. DeLorean DMC-12
88mph is all you needed from the DeLorean 😎
I drive a 2014 Camaro base model with manual trans 3.6 V6... It is rated 323 base HP, the gearing in that car sets you back in the seat, she top ends at 120 mph fuel limiter with room to go on the tachometer... (if I remember right that top end was 120 I feathered it 125 of course had to watch the road Tach was at 4.5) She is my sweetheart. All these others are great, fast/slow, beautiful. Great vid. Thanks!
I own a Celica GT with the small 1zz, but I have to add, yeah it suck that is slow, but remeber that this was the first generation of celica that doesnt have the GT Four rally version. In the past, look at the 5th and 6th generation, regular models were slower than the GT. In return, the GTS come with a 2ZZ which was a faster car than the GT 86... which is kinda sad again. But the Celicas were never sport cars, they were only sporty cars, and no most minivans doesnt beat even the 1zz, maybe in the US where every car have a fucking V8 but here in EU they are still decent. And the handling is amazing on the car, we could call the Miata slow too, just because its slower than a v8 minivan...
remember those big ass 5 litre V8 and only produces like 140hp? lol
The Celica GT Manual is a completely different car than the auto. While still not fast by any means, the auto box in those cars was hot trash. A manual GT would outrun an auto GTS every day of the week
@@kevinwinkler2694 How is that relevant to what i said? 🤔
Agree with the posts above. I owned a 2000 Toyota GT. Was not fast per se, but was quick as hell. Someone else mentioned it, it cornered like a bastard, so light and nimble. I can liken it to driving a real life Super Mario Cart.
140HP and 120-130 ft lbs of torque got a VERY light car moving pretty quickly. It only weighed @2400 pounds - or less than 1.1 tons metric. 0-60 (100kmph) was about 7 to 8 seconds, and can get to 90-05 mph in a quarter mile. Not terrible for the base GT.
I had a lot of fun in that little zippy. The Celica/ Miata/ MR2 Spyder or S2000 were all peers and were a blast to drive.
Loved the iroc-z look.
My favorite part of that preview of the Camaro video, is that they don't even full send it, they lightly push the pedal.
My first Porsche was a 68 912 identical to the one featured. I bought it in 1977 for $2700 which back then was a fair amount of money. It had 60k miles on it and was in great shape. It replaced my 75 Triumph TR-6 so l was used to slow but unlike the TR the 912 never broke! In two years l put almost 50k miles and put tires brakes and exhaust. Being young and dumb l had to have a 911 so l sold it and bought a 69 911. Everyone though l just got the 912 painted. The second car in honorable mentions, is that the South American sporty looking VW coupe with Beetle underpinnings?
VW SP2
I can definitely vouch for the "LOOKS fast" of the Celica. I used to own an '04 GT-S (with the "Aggression Package" body kit and 6-speed manual). An absolute JOY to drive for a FWD sports hatchback, and it handled like a dream, and I could squeeze three friends in the car with me (sorry to the folks in the rear), but even the GT-S was not fast in a straight line or off the line, and only felt fast in the high-rev band and taking corners (which it did quite well). I think my 0-60 time was
My 2.5 iron duke in my 1989 S10 is still running pretty good. I admit it is slow. But very reliable. Still not burning oil yet.
Yeah, they're reliable engines. Just not feasible power these days for driving in heavy city traffic when jerks are trying to cut in front of you all the time. You have to be able to keep up or the people behind you will get upset.
My first car was a 1978 Camaro with 250 CID inline 6. It was 8 years old when I got it. If minted condition it was 110 hp. It was the slowest accelerating car I’ve ever owned and my current car is a Hyundai Elantra.
Here's one for ya,
Mitsubishi 3000GT (base models from '97-'99). They were equipped with a SOHC version of the 6G72 and put out a dismal 161HP. Good on gas but very slow. Same can be said about the Dodge Stealth ES.
True. I had a 96 with I think 220'ish hp, and that thing wasn't too fast either.
Damn beautiful though.
Isn't the Stealth literally a rebadged 3000GT?
@@needfoolthings Yes.
I gotta say that the dog 4 banger from GM at that time period was actually a really dependable engine. I had a 87 S-10 pickup with that 4 banger and a 5 speed. Wouldn't go past 80 mph but the body rotted off and the engine went on to live in the neighbors truck for years after. Im a FoMoCo guy but I must say dependable engines are valuable in their own way. But your correct, power wise it was a dog.
The 1989 Nissan 240 SX, with the stock 2.4 liter 4 cylinder. Probably 0 to 60 in 9.5 seconds, back in the day.
My brother bought an "Iron Duke" with 27K on it in the mid 90s. Slowest car I had ever been in, even slower when you switched on the A/C, but it was pristine. We drove it straight to his garage and ripped the engine and trans out, dropped in a hot small block and a 700R4 from his Trans Am that he rolled the week before. So I LOVE the fact that you could find a Camaro a decade later with no twist or torque damage in the body, its like it was a preserved rolling chassis from the factory.
I had an '84 Z28 with the HO 5.0L and 5-speed. It wasn't burning up the asphalt either. However, the Gen 3 Camaro is still my favorite and although not fast by today's standards, it looks way better than the new ones and like most small block Chevys, they can be made fast easily.
First thing I did 25 years ago was RIP out the 5.0 for a 4 volt 350 then blow the tranny
They introduced the 350 IROC-Z later, though. And while it wasn't the fastest muscle car around stock, the L98 350 was simply a very choked engine with high potential. Exhaust mods, chip tuning, supercharger and a T56 transmission swap turn it into a monster.
I had an 87 IROC with the 350 TPI. It was a fun car. Period. Really nice throttle response, very punchy. I could give a sh*t less about 1/4 mile or 0-60. And the TPI was a beautiful setup to see when you opened the hood. Unlike the ugly LS that followed in 4th gens.
Hey, the girly version of the MR2 was actually a lot of fun to drive, especially with the autostick transmission - was just like the shifter I had on my Gran Turismo video game steering wheel. I remember being excited when that Celica came out. It LOOKED fast, but as is mentioned in the video, just wasn't.
The European made Ford Capri. Most engines are asthmatic, including the 1.3
The 2.8 is quite lively, and to be honest even the 1.3 smallest engined one would beat most American barges of the time round a track!
I had a ‘68 912. It wasn’t about fast I guess, it was just fun to drive. Very simple too.
You're totally wrong about the Opel GT! The C3 design is a copy of the Opel GT, so the complete opposite of what you're telling...and Opel also was part of GM. And the GT was mainly produced for european roads...🙄
And there was a 1.9L version, too.
Fun fact...even the 60bhp version can legaly drive faster in Germany, than any American muscle car ever was capable of or allowed to in the US. 🤣
You do realize that in America, anyone that anyone that wants to, can take their car to a track and go as fast as they want? Or that we have highways that aren't speed limited, just like the Autobahn? And I'm not sure what you mean by no American cars being capable of driving as fast as an Opel GT? The Opel GT had a top theoretical speed of 96 mph back when all American cars were capable of doing a minimum of 120mph. It's almost like you know nothing about America, yet are speaking as though you are an expert on all things Americana. Germany über alles, amirite?
@@RockandrollNegro You're so funny...! 🥱 🥱🥱
But it seems that your knowledge is not the yellow from the egg, funny boy...You're the proof, that Trump made America "great" again. 😂
@@RockandrollNegro "The Opel GT had a top theoretical speed of 96 mph back when all American cars were capable of doing a minimum of 120mph"
Yea they could go to 120 but guzzled fuel like a tank, it`s mind boggling how the hell they managed to extract 120-130Hp from damn 5-6L engine, ridiculous.
The Corvette C3 was based on the 1962 XP755 concept car. Design began on the C3 in 1964 and went into production in 1967, which was a few months before the Opel GT. The design of the first Opel GT began in 1965.
Just about any production vehicle has a top speed higher than is advisable on public roads and almost every production vehicle can take corners at the posted legal speed limit.
@@rich7447 Thank you this guy has no idea what he's talking about even the XP-833 Pontiac Banshee was made before the Opel GT
Uhhh, I just love IROC-Z it's just good looking & you can do a lot of tunes in to it.
That slow Camaro was slower than a Geo! You forgot to mention the Chevy Cavalier with 96 turtle 🐢 power. With feeble engine mounts, the mini car felt like breaking apart when trying to reach 80 mph. Cavaliers were the cheap car biggest headache of GM (specially those made in Mexico, Ay, mamita!)
Had a 1984 Buick, Skyhawk T type and the car was slower than my buddies 1979 Chevette wtf.
I remember a Bricklin ad from the 70s. The slogan was "You'll think it's ahead of its time. We think it's about time." The SV in the designation is for Safety Vehicle.
Slower than Joe Biden?!? That's pretty damn slow!
Slower that Trump walking down a slope
@Insectoid_ Is this the part where I'm supposed laugh? At something that isn't even funny?!? At least be clever
@markholtz5538 Huh? You drunk? What does that even mean?!? You make absolutely no sense whatsoever
@@billyclub9733it's officially recorded that he not only fell asleep in court nearly daily but when he was asleep, he began farting. Don't want to believe it? Fine, but you can look it up for yourself
Oh yeah and he was convicted on every single count in that very same case. So yeah, first US president to ever be convicted of a felony, 34 of them to be exact. Sorry bud, it's now recorded history
We’ll see who gets the last laugh. Because of the narrator’s comment alluding to our President being “slow”, he has been flagged. This type of unfounded disrespect for President Biden (and President elect Harris) needs to be moderated.
Wow the SV-1 did not crush its cabin or break it's windscreen in that crash test. Impressive.
My hyundai Kona is kinda the opposite. People think it’s slow but it’s tuned to 370hp.😅
Same with my 09 Genesis 4.6. I'm hoping people keep overlooking Hyundai/Genesis so I can eventually get a 5.0 R-Spec for cheap in the future.
It's dope that you modified it. I had one that I traded because I didn't want to put any crazy money into it... should've just kept it and done the same thing.
Well tbf, they aren't rockets either. 4.8 sec stock in my Elantra isn't fast compared to most performance cars.
congrats on 200k Stype! still underrated
I love your videos kept going ❤
4 cylinder Camaro are probable every collectable now. Like a 1969 Dodge Charger, with a slant six... not many left... worth its weight in gold
It's shocking that this video only got 5k views in 2 hours. You truly deserve more stype ❤❤
Why? For lying about things? No 3rd gen Z28 like the ones he pictured EVER came with the iron Duke 4 cylinder. I know. I've owned around a dozen 3rd gens. That was the base model economy camaro which was NEVER a muscle car.
Like your channel Stype, even the toilet humor 🙂 But a factcheck: the Opel GT is indeed based on the Opel Kadett B, but Hammonds car is the Kadett A (really really old). Keep up the good work !
Ah, my mistake.
Love ur vids❤
I'm surprised the Chrysler Prowler didn't make the list or the late 70s Corvettes.
If you forgot add The Toyota GT86 and GR86 in this video
they're not that bad dude
@@blackxfiied_ no I mean slow car but looks very fast car
They do 6 second 0-60 tho
They're not too bad in 0-100 as it does it in 6 seconds. Thats not the worst and there are modern cars that are still slower than that. You won't get better handling than that though
GR86 is pretty fast for its power and being N/A. The GT86 on the other hand... nah
The Bricklin was built in Saint john, NB, Canada and was mostly subsidized by the provincial government. SV stood for safety vehicle
Friend in high school had a four cylinder Camaro. I beat him all the time in my VW bug. Also left friends with jeeps broken in the woods. Beetles could also be bought for a few hundred dollars back then.
I have a 1996 Celica ST with the 1.8L 7A-FE. It has sporty handling, sounds decent and it is fun to drive but it is so slow 😂
Back in the early nineties, I rented a house. My landlord was a mechanic and one of his customers owed him some money. So the guy gave my landlord his red Bricklin SV-1 as payment. It was parked in my garage.
He wanted $4,000 for it. I should have bought the POS. Nice conversation piece.
Worth at least $15k now. Up to $100k for mint, original examples
So In sport mode: Jay floors it Immediately 😂
does stype know what RAND LOVER means 💀
Man of culture
Tata owning Land Rover makes this more sus 💀
😂😂
I know what Rand Lover actually means.
My cousin had a 4 banger Camaro.
We used to take it on 300 mile road trips, each way, from LA to the Colorado River, for weekends.
We had an old pickup and boat that was stored at my uncle's house there.
That Camaro was great on gas, and...once you got it going, would run 80 across the desert.
Sluggish, but bullettproof!!!
Saved us a ton of gas money, over the years.
Dumb, but great car. 🤣
Yes another new video 🎉🎉🎉
- 2nd gen Mitsubishi Eclipse RS automatic. This generation of DSM was gorgeous, but 140 HP and a 90s 4-speed transmission had to have made it dog slow.
- Marty McFly's 1985 Toyota SR5 Xtra Cab. The movie series establishes that Marty somehow crashed his while drag racing against Flea in a squarebody even though Toyota pickups at the time came equipped with a 22RE making 113 HP and couldn't have gone fast enough to hit anything at speed.
"Slower than Joe Biden".... just earned you a sub from me
Haha I also subscribed as soon as I heard that
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Searched TopCars Tv just yesterday. Glad you dropped guys.
let him cook
Back in the day, a neighbor of mine bought a 4 cyl Camaro "Iron Duke". When it was driving up the street, it sounded for all the world like a sewing machine!
Nice
hahahah the celica is pretty funny, when I was a kid I thought they were fast, but it's the same engine as the corolla basically.
I still like the car, though because the engine will outlast me.
obviously fast cars are better but it's fun to have a not so fast car and constantly push it to 60mph hahahah
Hey, did you not make a video like this before? 🤔
That video was about slow sports cars.
Dude your content is awesome
"that thing was slower then joe biden"
He just denied proclaiming Easter "transgender day of visibility" fvcking 24 hours later. He ain't in control of anything. Barry Soetoro holdovers were reinstalled when The Potatoe was implemented.
Comparing economy cars to their performance counterparts and old cars to new cars and act dismayed when they’re slower. The mid 70s were the dark ages for fast cars. By the mid 80s things were getting brighter, and each decade since has been even brighter. I must add that 3rd Gen Camaros, especially IROCs and Z28s with LB9 5.0 and definitely the L98 5.7 we’re not slow comparatively to other cars of the time, they fit in where all the top of the line Camaros have from Gen 1 to Gen 6. I had several of these cars and have fond memories of dusting 300ZXs, Fox body 5.0s, new era Cobras, the fastest 3rd Gen I had was a 91 Z28 5.7 TPI, it was fast af for the early 90s, and with bolt ons, cam, heads, exhaust and 3.73s was still hurting feelings in the 2000s, miss my baby.
Yugo 65 is faster! 🤣
Your upload schedule is the most unpredictable one I've seen.
Some shit always happens. I had a video set to go before this one, but... You know. Shit happened