Indeed, was easy from 8mg to 1mg. Was bit difficult rest of way but, 💯 it can be done like if do like doc is saying. Was so scared on final .25mg , but nothing happened. All that anxiety and fear for nothing. This wean works. Had some pretty bad rls at night , ras too and insomnia for couple days, that was it. Back to work in 3 daya. was 90% mental , so far so good. Almost 4 years 🙏🙏
Same was on 12mg for 6yr I still get prescribed 12mg but tapering down my self I am on 2mg now by cutting a 8mg in half then half the ,4mg then cut half 2mg I am doing great on 2mg I tried going down but withdrawals were crazy
I went from 8mg to 1mg in 1 day I don't recommend it but I almost wanted to pur myself through it. All the good times getting high over the years we gotta pay that back to the universe we owe that pain we deserve it for the abuse we caused to ourselves. Just my opinion, if getting off opiates was easy, everyone would be a junkie
One of the things I chose to do because it was sooo hard to get under 1mg, especially to half a mg seemed so hard… so i started splitting the 2mg strips into thirds, so my dose was more like 0.66 which seemed less intimidating than a full jump from 1mg to half. Tapering is so hard but I’ve been off suboxone since June 1, 2022 after 6 years on. Keep up the good work, Dr P!
That's a great example. Figuring out the best way for you is the key! Sometimes the physical and psychological barriers are the same and sometimes they're not. But the persistence and patience is crucial. Thanks for the comment.
how are you doing?? you still going strong? i really hope soo cause people like you getting off 100%, helps me a ton mentally & keeps me trucking forward, one day a time!!
@@LuKeMoE98 yep! I just made that comment earlier today. Still doing great, man. I’ve tried to make sure to stay active on these videos because I needed the help and needed to see peoples stories of getting off of very low doses! You can do it if you believe you can.
😂😂😂😂 .25mg you going to think you made it but nooooo 😂😂😂😂 God bless everyone who reads this We all in it together we got this ❤️✌️ I was on 12mg for 6yr Jusy dropped down to 2mg and no withdrawl nothin But going under 2mg is tough but just gotta be patient
Good job! I am down to 2mgs dailey at luncktome. Still watching the clock 🤣 plain to drop to 1mg per day. I will keep you up to date. We can cheer eachother on Good lick, you got this 👌
Update Officially down to 1mg and feel so Freaking good That Crazy Sidewalk Demon Left my body and my Anger is nowhere to be found 😂😂😂😂 Literally feel like a whole different person Change of diet really helped I do 2mad 2 meal a day and drink lots of water Anyways now goal is 0 maybe one day soon ✌️
@zackmoore9189 Hey, man. I'm doing a f****** excellent. Just got back from the sublime show in denver With Ziggy Marley and stick figure and tribal seeds. Life is good and how I'm doing on. Suboxone is just as good as well. I'm down 1 milligram officially as of about two months ago, and I have not felt this felt this good in 6 years Dropping down tapering down. Thanks to this, the doctor truly has helped me in so many ways you can do it, man
I’m on .25 every other day. 2 weeks so far and on my off day I still can’t sleep at night. That’s my main problem. Hoping this levels off sooner rather than later
Me too. Restless leg syndrome. I just got a RX done at a compounding pharmacy. It's liquid. The dose is .25 in liquid form. That way you can use one less drop and taper that way.
@@kimH1 yes. However I have read somewhere online that if you take a 2 mg strip and dissolve it in a certain amount of water it'll be the same. I haven't tried it and I don't personally know anyone who has. It makes sense though. If I wouldn't have found a compounding pharmacy that's what I was planning on trying.
Tapering very slow is the only way to get off opiods and subs without servere withdrawls . Key is slow do not drop untill your body ajusts to new doses even if its weeks and weeks , marathon over sprint. Even when dropping doses each minor withdrawl your body is recovering and brain so when you come off altogether the brain is half way repaired already , take months to do this
100 mg Sublocade shot got me off suboxone very comfortably. I could not get much below 1.5 MG a day!! First, I tapered get down to 2 mgs of suboxone per day which took a few months which is not terribly hard. Then 100 mg sublocade shot (just 1 shot) worked and I have been done. About 4-5 months later you will be clean, it takes a long while to dissolve. The sublocade shot is the best natural taper available on the market. If you are on 8 mg or higher of suboxone then they have 300 MG sublocade shot instead!! Research it! It is a natural taper shot in the stomach that forms into a harder substance in the body and slowly dissolves! Just make sure you are definitely done with opioids. As we know suboxone is safer than most opioids.
My doctor said I Have to be on 8mg to get the shot. I asume thats the 300mg shot. Now that i am at 6mg she said i cannot get the shot. Sounds like theres a lpwer dose. Does not everyone have 100mg
@@ladyrwolfmy doc told me the same thing. I am currently on .75 mg a day and she said in order to receive the Sublocade shot I would have to titrate back up to 8mg. That makes no sense to me at all.
Wow. Thank you for your reply. That makes total sence. She had to me on to high of a dose to begin with. And when I would tell her she wouldnt listen. Said it was normal.
@@ladyrwolf yeah they're nothing but legal drug pushers. Notice they don't have any solution to get you off of their crap? Only a long taper which involves months of being very uncomfortable. The bottom line is you are BUSINESS and a customer and they don't want to help you quit. It's literally bad for their business. They are no different than the pill mills at all they just changed the product and sales pitch.
@@ladyrwolf Sorry for the delay. I used the VA. They were cool with 100MG if I was on 4MG per day or less. It is weird how you may have to go up in dose to meet the 300MG shot guidelines. I think it is because the shot gives you a steady stream and so they do not want you to feel woozy or whatever. It is worth goin back up for few weeks to meet their shot guidelines.
Thank you for this video. I’m all the way down to 1/12 a 2 mg strip a day (from 16mg 5 yrs) and cannot for the life of me get off. Takes a LONG time. Def have patience
Going through that right now actually I start my ODF program tomorrow on 2 mg Suboxone going to strips to drop the dose. Thanks 🙏🏼 was feeling anxious not knowing.
I like this method and stumbled on by mistake. I remembered withdrawing pretty bad in rehab and was like 6 days in. I remembered that i had hidden a tiny bit of sub in my toothpaste so squeezed it out, Unwrapped it and even though if caught i risked being kicked out.. took it! It was probably like .25/.3mg but it absolutely broke the back in the withdrawls which came back but were so much more bearable. Not quite what he's advising here but more spaced out dosing can work
I been on subutex/Suboxone for 15 yrs. I kept myself at 4mg for the last few years. 2 weeks ago without any planning I just decided to go cold Turkey. I’m on my 3rd week and I still feel like I’m dying. I want to dose but my family thinks I should just keep going. I’m about to crack. Don’t want to disappoint them.
@@grindcorchestra118 down to 0.4mg now , knees ache, depressed, but my sex drive is coming back, I suppose you have to look at the positives, keep going, it takes time for your body to adjust
There's hope if you taper over 6 months very important get to .5 and stay 3 months, then jump. Im on day 20 the anxiety of getting off is worse than the detox. Time does fly im 54 don't waste anymore of your life on this terrible drug. You can do it its so important to stay on .5 mil for about 2 to 3 months then drop. I will tell you this drug creates alot of physical and mental issues.
It's so cool there's sub detox videos out there cuz it's rough! Addiction sucks and don't wish it on anyone! Thanks for the support and hope this helps someone
I divided mine by fours and been on that for a year now. Yes my doctor knows she put it in my prescription. I’ve been fine ever since. I take a piece in the morning lunch dinner and bed. I been fine since switching to a lower dose.
Thank you doctor and GodBless. I'm very upset today July 20th.My brother passed away from a drug overdose.He been in and out of rehabs and God knows he was a good person but how can I cope and wonder why suboxone didn't help him like it did me? I just don't understand this why?He was only 37 my baby bother.I know you might not be able to help my question. But why didn't it help him ?If you can maybe explain somethings to me.Thank you love ya Doctor Chris.
I'm at 1 MG every 20hours or so I've been on this dose for 10 days it's hard to make it 24hours after 18 or so hours I'm just sick as f but I swear this is it I did a rapid tapper the first 7 days were not good but I kept going now when I take that 1mg I feel fine for the first 10-12 hours but in a couple days I'm gonna try .5. I'm done with suboxne after 6 years it took my soul these last 10 days even while w/d I feel more like myself than I have since I started opiates 15 years ago
Cut your last milligram into quarters and spread them throughout the day for a week or month. Whatever you're comfort with. That way you get your whole milligram for the day. Then remove a quarter and take them 3 times a day, which is once every 8 hours for a week or month again. Then twice a day, once every twelve hours. Then when you get down to taking it once a day, take it 3 hours before bedtime to prevent Restless Leg Syndrome (RLS). Then if you can cut that in half ,to and eighth, every 24 hours or starts spacing out the quarter for longer than 24 hours at a time in 6 to 12 hour increments. Most importantly when you are done, always keep a quarter laying nearby. In case RSL kicks in and only use it in case of that. It takes one quarter an hour to stop RLS for me to sleep.
But mine is 1.5 and tablet until next month then the strip smfh . How much is 1.5 ? I was to freaked out at my Dr to listen. Poor man probably never had anybody talk to him like that. I'll apologize if I make it . And I have no energy I mean zero and I'm soooo tired omg I've gotta work in that meat department like this tf
Now they give you one shot of sublocade when you get below 3 mg and you are done in a month. My father in law and I both did this. One shot one month ZERO WITHDRAWALS
I did the same but went back to strips I wasn't ready at the time. The shot is the way to go like you said you just walk off plus have the buffer when fighting urges to take piece of a strip.
Can you imagine that if the PEOPLE that developed the Subs.. Produced a substance that Counter Acted to withdrawals… I mean , it makes sense that it should be possible… Unfortunately, we can’t walk into the woods for a week and a half, and expect to get out in two hours…
I have been trying to taper off of 8mg a day but just can’t seem to do it. Being a quadriplegic with pain the subutex helps. Any idea how I should proceed????
I'm starting to think if your on them for a while like we all were it don't matter how low you get. Cuz i was literally so low i couldn't taste them anymore every 3 Days. Now it's 3:30 am an 12 days in, the RLS is absolutely horrible still and it's in my arms and abs too like WTF anybody hear of this crazyness? And it's like Im feeling every nerve firing in my body almost a vibrating disassociate type feeling, so weird. I seriously was on maybe 0.15-0.2mg every 72 hours. The more I look at real survivor stories it does not matter how low you go your going thru Paws. It is what it is .. All i can do is eat it. Jus like i did all those pills and subs that got me here. Let's ya know you're not dead yet haha welcome back to life ..
Wait so you were taking 1/4 of 1mg? So 0.25? Once Every 3 days? Bro I was taking 1mg everyday for months, I went from 8mg to 2 to 1. And in just sick of it. I haven’t tooken anything in 75 hrs, I have mild symptoms but I’m also smoking lots of weed to help. I can’t sleep. Haven’t slept in 2 days. I have to work tomorrow and my body is just jello. Is the WD gunna get worse? Even if I’m 3 days in?
get some liposomal vitamin c and start out with at least 4 grams. It works, you can take massive doses if you need to the only side effect might be some diarhea. I was tapering and it was going good until I got very low. I woke up about 2 am in the middle of a severe hot flash and rls with extreme anxiety. I decided to try the vit c. I took about 4 grams and was able to go back to sleep after about 30 maybe 40 minutes. IT WORKS, I've been testing it as I've been tapering and I cannot stress this enough. You do not have to suffer. look it up, there was a study done in partnership with NIDAA but they were more intersted in promoting buprenorphine at the time. Vitamin C works people. They used sodium ascorbate powder in the study but I've found the liposomal vit c allows smaller dosages with the same effect. I woke up this morning about 6 am and couldn't sleep. Took 4 grams of vit c and went right back to sleep until 9:30. Slept good too. It's 12:20 right now and I just took about 4400 mgs instead of my usual sliver of strip and I feel fine. I hope you see this my friend, we do not have to suffer. i believe this Doctor's taper schedule along with vit c can set us up for success. The information is readily available if you search it. No need to take my word for it.
It’s easy to overlook that a good bit of all this is just getting the body’s endorphins moving properly again. I feel like when I’m not regularly exercising vigorously, doing a buprenorphine taper seems impossible. Once the exercise comes back into frame though, things get exponentially easier.
Man, I need to see this video. I am at the point to where I thought I was done. I am taking VERY small pieces. I don’t even think you could calculate how many MG it would be. It’s that small. So, I thought I was done, then after 3 days, I woke up in the middle of the night tossing and turning and my legs were going crazy. So as much as I didn’t want to ( because I wanted my last day to be Father’s Day) I took a very small piece again. Well, it’s been another 48 hrs, and I’m still fine. But now, I think I need to still do the small pieces just in farther times. I’ll stick to the 72hrs for now. But MAN, I want to be done with this SO BAD.
@@dr.chrispark I am literally down to just little corners. I was at almost 72hrs, and tried to go to bed, and my legs started going crazy. So I cut off a tiny sliver, I could barely even taste them at this point. But an hour later, I was able to get to sleep, and wake up to go to work the next morning. I’m so ready to be done, what is your suggestion.
I'm not quite there yet I'm at 2 mgs every other day and that seems to be working for me in a month or so I'll be moving to 1 mg every day and seeing how that works for me.
Simon from Tunbridge Wells, thanks Dr Parks, all made sense, although we do get 0.2 mg of buprenorphine over here. My doctor is reducing 0.2mg, of buprenorphine every two weeks, and it’s hurting, had first 0.2mg 3 days ago. I hate it when he says it’s all in you’re head, so will TRY to show this video and comments to him, thanks , Simon
Hey Simon.you could concider asking doc to stop the .2mg and replace it with Lofexidine.it’s a non opiate and been used since 1990’s in UK. It basically prevents the central nervous system from giving withdrawals,also lowers blood pressure. It won’t stop symptoms entirely but makes a massive difference.Also if u get RLS ask him for Premipexole,which also provides a good dopamine boost
@@ellen9925 I tapered off after 16 years. It's been 20 months and I feel fantastic. I got such a boost from that, I quit smoking almost 9 months ago. 😁
Ive been taking .5 mg for a month now. I have 2 strips left. Iam going to ween myself down and thats it. I'll just deal with it cuz im done with this stuff
I really need help. I've been on Subs for 12 years. I started tappering 4 years ago. I'm down to 0.33 mg/day and I can't knock it. I've done this on the street for the last 10 years but I'm ready to see a specialist but I don't trust specialists. I'm concerned everyone will want to push me back to a higher dose or Sublocade. Any advice? Do you do tele-health? I'm in another state - 10 hours one way.
I’m on same dose 0.33 once a day and in the same boat I never took high dose one think it helps vitamins tea and work out if you have energy . I was wondering if you have made it to the other side clean side let me know pls
Don't take suboxone. It ruined my career and life. Made my bones and muscles weak. I slipped off a 6 inch curb and herniated my spine in 4 places after taking 24mg for 2 years. On pain meds taken as prescribed I was rocking it. Working. On the Presidents list. I should have never used this. I should have went to an in patient detox for 10 to 30 days. This medicine has ruined me! Hope it doesn't ruin you ❤
I just went through this for years and couldn’t ever get past it. I tried multiple things and noticed a lot of people say to get the sublocade shot. I have never been addicted to opioids but was on prescribed pain meds for 10 years after 6 failed back surgeries. I do not have an addiction but the withdrawal from dependency SUCKED. I had one shot of the lowest strength and here we are 2.5 months and i do not feel any withdrawals or need another shot. I/2 mg here for several year and this is the solution to my problem. Best of luck to ya.
I had success years ago with your taper. Well, I tried to suggest this to another doctor when I was in treatment back in January. He told me I was over thinking it and it wouldn’t be effective. He dropped me at 2 milligrams, and that didn’t work out. Why do doctors have such varying views? From my experience, the things you have talked about are very true. But the rest of the industry tends to feel very differently, which leads to really poor treatment.
The hardest part at least around here is finding a doctor that won't punish you for wanting to taper I finally found d a place that's been working with me and after 5 years trying to get off several ways I'm finally down to 0.5 MG
Yeah they want to keep u on it. They want your money. I mention lowering my dose or a taper and my doc says " No"! It wont work, your gonna be so sick this and that....blah blah. Gotta take it into your own hands.
I’m still on the tablets because when I tried the strips I had a terrible reaction. I developed severe and painful blisters under my tongue that took over a month to heal, even after switching back to tablets. So I have to split up 2 mg tablets to ween down. I’m on 1.5 mg/day. I break a 2mg tab in half and then break one of those halves in half, and put a quarter back in the bottle. Recently, I have been shaving a corner off of the 1mg half to start weaning down towards just doing 1mg/day, but I’m nervous how to approach micro-dosing with such small pieces and then never really knowing how much I’ve taken. I can’t cut them super even like you would with strips. I really wish the pharmaceutical companies would make smaller dose pills to help people like me ween off.
That’s been a big complaint of mine as well. There are patches (Butrans) which is a smaller dose and might be an option in future. Talk to your doctor. Good luck and great job with your progress so far
I went from a half to a 1/8 then went 3 days cold turkey but shit i got to go to work and ppl cant know at this point i just take dust every 24 hrs and my stomach is messed up i just cant go without the energy i wish there was a substitute thats not habit forming for the last step
Man I get it Im Now 61 years old been on 1mm piece of an 8mg suboxon for 6 years so not alot in the first place...but the energy i get and the pain relieving is what I'll miss the most...now I'm trying to get off that crappy amount sucks...it's gonna be even smaller....
@@dr.chrispark I'm never going back to the"DR" there just pill pushers at any sub dr I have ever been to you can literally buy a appointment on line I was getting 90 a month no piss test we are just junkies for the legal drug now I want to feel the effect of my own stupidity because im not a pussy im done
@@juliodelrio1737 I had 3 full bottles of 30 saved up I dumped them in the river and posted it we are just cowards the moment you admit it you can take responsibility and control you earned the sniffles and restlesness for being a lowlife don't let your kids believe they come from a weak pos
I know for me it’s really hard with the dosing getting it correct with an 8 mg strip I get very confused once we start getting into the 0.25 or 0.5 I mean what does that look like is that like 16 pieces of an 8 mg strip 30 pieces of an 8 mg strip it just gets very confusing. Maybe make a video on how to cut up an 8 mg strip into .05 or dosing measurements? I’m definitely under that 1 mg mark but it’s when I get into those lower dosing measurements that I feel I mess up and I go backwards.
Crease an 8mg strip into 4. That's 2mg per rectangle. Now fold lengthwise to center on each end to divide the long 2mg rectangles into 1mg squares. There will be 8 of them. Now crease and fold so that each 1mg square gets divided into 4. Those are 0.25mg each. Total of 32 equal pieces of 0.25 mg
This video is a lot better and more realistic than the last one 😂 But in your defense, the last one was 4yrs ago. We’re all growing and learning more each day. I just recently graduated to 1/8th of a milligram about 3wks ago and Just Now started having withdrawal symptoms 2days ago hence why I started researching seems I was like 🙄 no way i just started withdrawing after 3wks 🤷♀️ but yeah, I am. I’ve been on it for 10yrs. Started out on 14-16mil (full dose) I switched to it to get off OxyContin. It didn’t get tough till I got below half a milligram, suddenly got really tough
Yes, I stayed on .50 for almost a month. I tried to got to .25 but got symptoms after 4 days and I jumped. I was never dopesick, just had insomnia. Work with your doc. Mine gave me a FEW benzos to sleep with. Temazapam and Clonodine helped. Good luck my friend, you won't be sorry!
I’ll never let them opiates or opioids or any other substance get me again, I was on 100 mgs of methadone for 20 years, did that cold turkey, it was rough
@@nickycotton6137 after a month of suffering I got me some Kratom because I was going crazy from no sleep and not eating, I was able to sleep a full night after hardly getting any sleep at all in that month, I don’t think I could ever do that again, I went to jail for 15 days got out and never went back to the clinic because I thought I had it halfway beaten, I did get some relief from the Kratom, I know that really isn’t cold turkey but I did suffer for a whole month without anything, that shit takes months, I was on it for 2 decades, I hurt my back at work in the late 1990s and was taking OCs that’s how I got started
@@These-nutz = Ah, Fair-Enough. Would probs 'ave done same (or LOTS of Pregabs that help any Cluck tbf), but couldn't Smoke Cig's/Weed when came off it! Was like the 2 went hand in hand last time on Physeptone (6yrs). Getting off Heroin did sod all for. edit: Ah-ha so put on it for the Med'S for your Back Pain eh. Took Nurofen+ for Toothache & ended up back on the Green stuff.👎
I was at 12mg. Dropped to 8mg for a while, then to 4mg. Now I cut the 8mg strip into 5 pieces. I now just take one of those. After this I’m gonna cut the 5 pieces in half to have basically 10 little squares of the strip….
Stay away from Kratom! How long did you taper? I tapered slowly and didn't suffer except for insomnia. That was 2022. Keep going my friend, you won't be sorry!
Yea suboxone is a sticky drug and seems to work on the kappa and delta more then other opiates. Can be freakin insanely anoyying to come off. Not worse then other opiates but more dragged out and more irritating for sure.
Awe, Doc' literally can't wait to get to that 1/2 mg's stage, but then again it makes me cringe just thinking about it. edit: Also depends how long one's been on it surely. Peace out Doc'..✌
Why the heck do Dr put people on this crap. Weaning off opioids was easier. I'm at .25 milg of Suboxone and I don't have months to stay there. I have 8 days and maybe a few days at .10 then done. This stuff should not be given out.
The point of this medicine is not for tapering. It's for saving people's lives. If heroin addicts could stop heroin, then they wouldn't need this medicine. Yes it's difficult to taper off of but that has nothing to do with its purpose.
@M. M I'm under 1 milg going down 0.05 every 3 weeks. I decided to take my time. I have 70 8 milgtam strips and literally can stay on them 4 years of I want to. I have a box of 30 2 milg strips . I don't want to be on this crap anymore and will wean off a slow as humanly possible. I bought all those strip from the street over time before wanting off and now I want off and have plenty of strips to where I do not need to rush it. I believe the slower I go the more successful I'll be.
Indeed, was easy from 8mg to 1mg. Was bit difficult rest of way but, 💯 it can be done like if do like doc is saying. Was so scared on final .25mg , but nothing happened. All that anxiety and fear for nothing. This wean works. Had some pretty bad rls at night , ras too and insomnia for couple days, that was it. Back to work in 3 daya. was 90% mental , so far so good. Almost 4 years 🙏🙏
Hope that's the case 'ere.. How long were you on it 'John'?
I know (all too well) what RLS is but what is RAS? Restless Ass Syndrome? That sounds horrible lol
Was the same for me exactly
Same was on 12mg for 6yr I still get prescribed 12mg but tapering down my self
I am on 2mg now by cutting a 8mg in half then half the ,4mg then cut half 2mg
I am doing great on 2mg
I tried going down but withdrawals were crazy
I went from 8mg to 1mg in 1 day I don't recommend it but I almost wanted to pur myself through it. All the good times getting high over the years we gotta pay that back to the universe we owe that pain we deserve it for the abuse we caused to ourselves. Just my opinion, if getting off opiates was easy, everyone would be a junkie
One of the things I chose to do because it was sooo hard to get under 1mg, especially to half a mg seemed so hard… so i started splitting the 2mg strips into thirds, so my dose was more like 0.66 which seemed less intimidating than a full jump from 1mg to half.
Tapering is so hard but I’ve been off suboxone since June 1, 2022 after 6 years on. Keep up the good work, Dr P!
That's a great example. Figuring out the best way for you is the key! Sometimes the physical and psychological barriers are the same and sometimes they're not. But the persistence and patience is crucial. Thanks for the comment.
how are you doing?? you still going strong? i really hope soo cause people like you getting off 100%, helps me a ton mentally & keeps me trucking forward, one day a time!!
@@LuKeMoE98 yep! I just made that comment earlier today. Still doing great, man. I’ve tried to make sure to stay active on these videos because I needed the help and needed to see peoples stories of getting off of very low doses! You can do it if you believe you can.
I’ve been on it for 4 years. Down to 1/5 of an 8mg strip.
😂😂😂😂 .25mg you going to think you made it but nooooo 😂😂😂😂
God bless everyone who reads this
We all in it together we got this ❤️✌️
I was on 12mg for 6yr
Jusy dropped down to 2mg and no withdrawl nothin
But going under 2mg is tough but just gotta be patient
Update y'all officially down to 1.5 mg
A little sweaty & runny nose
But that should be gone in a week or so ✌️❤️ stay bless y'all
Good job! I am down to 2mgs dailey at luncktome. Still watching the clock 🤣
plain to drop to 1mg per day.
I will keep you up to date. We can cheer eachother on
Good lick, you got this 👌
Update Officially down to 1mg and feel so Freaking good
That Crazy Sidewalk Demon Left my body and my Anger is nowhere to be found 😂😂😂😂
Literally feel like a whole different person
Change of diet really helped I do 2mad 2 meal a day and drink lots of water
Anyways now goal is 0 maybe one day soon ✌️
@@RosinDaddy5280 yo man how u doing?
@zackmoore9189 Hey, man. I'm doing a f****** excellent. Just got back from the sublime show in denver
With Ziggy Marley and stick figure and tribal seeds. Life is good and how I'm doing on. Suboxone is just as good as well. I'm down 1 milligram officially as of about two months ago, and I have not felt this felt this good in 6 years
Dropping down tapering down. Thanks to this, the doctor truly has helped me in so many ways you can do it, man
I’m on .25 every other day. 2 weeks so far and on my off day I still can’t sleep at night. That’s my main problem. Hoping this levels off sooner rather than later
One shot of sublocade and you would be done forever. Works amazing, no withdrawal. Fuck these pills. Been there
One shot of sublocade and you would be done forever. Works amazing, no withdrawal. Fuck these pills. Been there
Me too. Restless leg syndrome. I just got a RX done at a compounding pharmacy. It's liquid. The dose is .25 in liquid form. That way you can use one less drop and taper that way.
@@rebeccaaldrich3396 that’s cool. Are u in the US? I hadn’t even heard of a compound pharmacy
@@kimH1 yes. However I have read somewhere online that if you take a 2 mg strip and dissolve it in a certain amount of water it'll be the same. I haven't tried it and I don't personally know anyone who has. It makes sense though. If I wouldn't have found a compounding pharmacy that's what I was planning on trying.
Tapering very slow is the only way to get off opiods and subs without servere withdrawls . Key is slow do not drop untill your body ajusts to new doses even if its weeks and weeks , marathon over sprint.
Even when dropping doses each minor withdrawl your body is recovering and brain so when you come off altogether the brain is half way repaired already , take months to do this
That's exactly how it works..
That's what I did. The lowest I could go without WDs was 0.50mgs. I was never dopesick, just insomnia.
“Breaking your psychological barrier “
The best line in the history of rehabilitation !
Love from London England 🏴
100 mg Sublocade shot got me off suboxone very comfortably. I could not get much below 1.5 MG a day!! First, I tapered get down to 2 mgs of suboxone per day which took a few months which is not terribly hard. Then 100 mg sublocade shot (just 1 shot) worked and I have been done. About 4-5 months later you will be clean, it takes a long while to dissolve. The sublocade shot is the best natural taper available on the market. If you are on 8 mg or higher of suboxone then they have 300 MG sublocade shot instead!! Research it! It is a natural taper shot in the stomach that forms into a harder substance in the body and slowly dissolves! Just make sure you are definitely done with opioids. As we know suboxone is safer than most opioids.
My doctor said I Have to be on 8mg to get the shot. I asume thats the 300mg shot. Now that i am at 6mg she said i cannot get the shot. Sounds like theres a lpwer dose. Does not everyone have 100mg
@@ladyrwolfmy doc told me the same thing. I am currently on .75 mg a day and she said in order to receive the Sublocade shot I would have to titrate back up to 8mg. That makes no sense to me at all.
Wow. Thank you for your reply. That makes total sence. She had to me on to high of a dose to begin with. And when I would tell her she wouldnt listen. Said it was normal.
@@ladyrwolf yeah they're nothing but legal drug pushers. Notice they don't have any solution to get you off of their crap? Only a long taper which involves months of being very uncomfortable. The bottom line is you are BUSINESS and a customer and they don't want to help you quit. It's literally bad for their business. They are no different than the pill mills at all they just changed the product and sales pitch.
@@ladyrwolf Sorry for the delay. I used the VA. They were cool with 100MG if I was on 4MG per day or less. It is weird how you may have to go up in dose to meet the 300MG shot guidelines. I think it is because the shot gives you a steady stream and so they do not want you to feel woozy or whatever. It is worth goin back up for few weeks to meet their shot guidelines.
Thank you sir that you are here and that you do what you do, greetings from austria. You are a hero
Thank you for this video. I’m all the way down to 1/12 a 2 mg strip a day (from 16mg 5 yrs) and cannot for the life of me get off. Takes a LONG time. Def have patience
Hey Dr Chris, I always look forward to your posts. Thanks so much for the info you share... It has been very helpful...... Griff
Going through that right now actually I start my ODF program tomorrow on 2 mg Suboxone going to strips to drop the dose. Thanks 🙏🏼 was feeling anxious not knowing.
I like this method and stumbled on by mistake. I remembered withdrawing pretty bad in rehab and was like 6 days in. I remembered that i had hidden a tiny bit of sub in my toothpaste so squeezed it out, Unwrapped it and even though if caught i risked being kicked out.. took it! It was probably like .25/.3mg but it absolutely broke the back in the withdrawls which came back but were so much more bearable. Not quite what he's advising here but more spaced out dosing can work
I been on subutex/Suboxone for 15 yrs. I kept myself at 4mg for the last few years. 2 weeks ago without any planning I just decided to go cold Turkey. I’m on my 3rd week and I still feel like I’m dying. I want to dose but my family thinks I should just keep going. I’m about to crack. Don’t want to disappoint them.
How you doing now?😅
@@madame_crypto88 don’t crack mate, it’ll be worth it , that green grass is calling . Good luck, no pain , no gain, as they say
@@grindcorchestra118 down to 0.4mg now , knees ache, depressed, but my sex drive is coming back, I suppose you have to look at the positives, keep going, it takes time for your body to adjust
@@madame_crypto88 be careful, take it slowly mate, 15 years, takes time, don’t beat yourself up
What to do... I'm taking 1 8mg every 3-5 days. Strumuctly for pain. And now the addiction of it. Need to stop. What method do I use?
I hear some people are getting a shot after tapering to a very low dose and the way the shot fades/half-life, they were able to quit????
There's hope if you taper over 6 months very important get to .5 and stay 3 months, then jump. Im on day 20 the anxiety of getting off is worse than the detox. Time does fly im 54 don't waste anymore of your life on this terrible drug. You can do it its so important to stay on .5 mil for about 2 to 3 months then drop. I will tell you this drug creates alot of physical and mental issues.
It's so cool there's sub detox videos out there cuz it's rough! Addiction sucks and don't wish it on anyone! Thanks for the support and hope this helps someone
I divided mine by fours and been on that for a year now. Yes my doctor knows she put it in my prescription. I’ve been fine ever since. I take a piece in the morning lunch dinner and bed. I been fine since switching to a lower dose.
Thank you doctor and GodBless. I'm very upset today July 20th.My brother passed away from a drug overdose.He been in and out of rehabs and God knows he was a good person but how can I cope and wonder why suboxone didn't help him like it did me? I just don't understand this why?He was only 37 my baby bother.I know you might not be able to help my question. But why didn't it help him ?If you can maybe explain somethings to me.Thank you love ya Doctor Chris.
You sound like Kenny powers 🤘🏼
I'm at 1 MG every 20hours or so I've been on this dose for 10 days it's hard to make it 24hours after 18 or so hours I'm just sick as f but I swear this is it I did a rapid tapper the first 7 days were not good but I kept going now when I take that 1mg I feel fine for the first 10-12 hours but in a couple days I'm gonna try .5. I'm done with suboxne after 6 years it took my soul these last 10 days even while w/d I feel more like myself than I have since I started opiates 15 years ago
How are u doing?
Yes! This is brilliant. Thank you Dr Park 👍❤ That was very helpful
Cut your last milligram into quarters and spread them throughout the day for a week or month. Whatever you're comfort with. That way you get your whole milligram for the day. Then remove a quarter and take them 3 times a day, which is once every 8 hours for a week or month again. Then twice a day, once every twelve hours. Then when you get down to taking it once a day, take it 3 hours before bedtime to prevent Restless Leg Syndrome (RLS). Then if you can cut that in half ,to and eighth, every 24 hours or starts spacing out the quarter for longer than 24 hours at a time in 6 to 12 hour increments. Most importantly when you are done, always keep a quarter laying nearby. In case RSL kicks in and only use it in case of that. It takes one quarter an hour to stop RLS for me to sleep.
But mine is 1.5 and tablet until next month then the strip smfh . How much is 1.5 ? I was to freaked out at my Dr to listen. Poor man probably never had anybody talk to him like that. I'll apologize if I make it .
And I have no energy I mean zero and I'm soooo tired omg I've gotta work in that meat department like this tf
Now they give you one shot of sublocade when you get below 3 mg and you are done in a month. My father in law and I both did this. One shot one month ZERO WITHDRAWALS
I did the same but went back to strips I wasn't ready at the time. The shot is the way to go like you said you just walk off plus have the buffer when fighting urges to take piece of a strip.
Did you take the 300 or 100 milligram shot?
Was 6 days off went to my appointment and went back on it im tired.
Can you imagine that if the PEOPLE that developed the Subs.. Produced a substance that Counter Acted to withdrawals… I mean , it makes sense that it should be possible… Unfortunately, we can’t walk into the woods for a week and a half, and expect to get out in two hours…
Thank you for the great video my doctor told me to stop taking 4 mg Buprenorphine cold turkey and I was sicker than a rat that ate a box of decon.
I have been trying to taper off of 8mg a day but just can’t seem to do it. Being a quadriplegic with pain the subutex helps. Any idea how I should proceed????
look up the universal antidote .
I'm starting to think if your on them for a while like we all were it don't matter how low you get. Cuz i was literally so low i couldn't taste them anymore every 3 Days. Now it's 3:30 am an 12 days in, the RLS is absolutely horrible still and it's in my arms and abs too like WTF anybody hear of this crazyness? And it's like Im feeling every nerve firing in my body almost a vibrating disassociate type feeling, so weird. I seriously was on maybe 0.15-0.2mg every 72 hours. The more I look at real survivor stories it does not matter how low you go your going thru Paws. It is what it is .. All i can do is eat it. Jus like i did all those pills and subs that got me here. Let's ya know you're not dead yet haha welcome back to life ..
Wait so you were taking 1/4 of 1mg? So 0.25? Once Every 3 days? Bro I was taking 1mg everyday for months, I went from 8mg to 2 to 1. And in just sick of it. I haven’t tooken anything in 75 hrs, I have mild symptoms but I’m also smoking lots of weed to help. I can’t sleep. Haven’t slept in 2 days. I have to work tomorrow and my body is just jello. Is the WD gunna get worse? Even if I’m 3 days in?
get some liposomal vitamin c and start out with at least 4 grams. It works, you can take massive doses if you need to the only side effect might be some diarhea. I was tapering and it was going good until I got very low. I woke up about 2 am in the middle of a severe hot flash and rls with extreme anxiety. I decided to try the vit c. I took about 4 grams and was able to go back to sleep after about 30 maybe 40 minutes. IT WORKS, I've been testing it as I've been tapering and I cannot stress this enough. You do not have to suffer. look it up, there was a study done in partnership with NIDAA but they were more intersted in promoting buprenorphine at the time. Vitamin C works people. They used sodium ascorbate powder in the study but I've found the liposomal vit c allows smaller dosages with the same effect. I woke up this morning about 6 am and couldn't sleep. Took 4 grams of vit c and went right back to sleep until 9:30. Slept good too. It's 12:20 right now and I just took about 4400 mgs instead of my usual sliver of strip and I feel fine. I hope you see this my friend, we do not have to suffer. i believe this Doctor's taper schedule along with vit c can set us up for success. The information is readily available if you search it. No need to take my word for it.
@@davidturner4987 thanks bro. I’m good now. It wasn’t bad at all. I didn’t take anything besides ibuprofen & some weed lol it stops after 7-8 days
Struggle is real brother
It’s easy to overlook that a good bit of all this is just getting the body’s endorphins moving properly again. I feel like when I’m not regularly exercising vigorously, doing a buprenorphine taper seems impossible. Once the exercise comes back into frame though, things get exponentially easier.
Man, I need to see this video. I am at the point to where I thought I was done. I am taking VERY small pieces. I don’t even think you could calculate how many MG it would be. It’s that small. So, I thought I was done, then after 3 days, I woke up in the middle of the night tossing and turning and my legs were going crazy. So as much as I didn’t want to ( because I wanted my last day to be Father’s Day) I took a very small piece again. Well, it’s been another 48 hrs, and I’m still fine.
But now, I think I need to still do the small pieces just in farther times. I’ll stick to the 72hrs for now. But MAN, I want to be done with this SO BAD.
You're doing great and getting close!
@@dr.chrispark I am literally down to just little corners. I was at almost 72hrs, and tried to go to bed, and my legs started going crazy. So I cut off a tiny sliver, I could barely even taste them at this point. But an hour later, I was able to get to sleep, and wake up to go to work the next morning.
I’m so ready to be done, what is your suggestion.
Thanks doc..
I'm not quite there yet I'm at 2 mgs every other day and that seems to be working for me in a month or so I'll be moving to 1 mg every day and seeing how that works for me.
Simon from Tunbridge Wells, thanks Dr Parks, all made sense, although we do get 0.2 mg of buprenorphine over here. My doctor is reducing 0.2mg, of buprenorphine every two weeks, and it’s hurting, had first 0.2mg 3 days ago. I hate it when he says it’s all in you’re head, so will TRY to show this video and comments to him, thanks , Simon
Hey Simon.you could concider asking doc to stop the .2mg and replace it with Lofexidine.it’s a non opiate and been used since 1990’s in UK. It basically prevents the central nervous system from giving withdrawals,also lowers blood pressure. It won’t stop symptoms entirely but makes a massive difference.Also if u get RLS ask him for Premipexole,which also provides a good dopamine boost
You're in withdrawal. 0.2mgs is really low. I went down to 0.25mgs and started getting symptoms 4 days later. Hang in there, it's worth it!
I tapered for 6 months down to .50 mg and jumped off. I was in hell for 6 months and had to go back on. I stillhad crazy w/d’s after 6 months.
Absolutely normal. People don't talk about AFTER the taper enough
@@ellen9925 I tapered off after 16 years. It's been 20 months and I feel fantastic. I got such a boost from that, I quit smoking almost 9 months ago. 😁
This is such an important video. There are so many doctors that think you will be "just fine" and "its all in your head" going off of subutex at 1 mg.
Ive been taking .5 mg for a month now. I have 2 strips left. Iam going to ween myself down and thats it. I'll just deal with it cuz im done with this stuff
I really need help. I've been on Subs for 12 years. I started tappering 4 years ago. I'm down to 0.33 mg/day and I can't knock it. I've done this on the street for the last 10 years but I'm ready to see a specialist but I don't trust specialists. I'm concerned everyone will want to push me back to a higher dose or Sublocade. Any advice? Do you do tele-health? I'm in another state - 10 hours one way.
I’m on same dose 0.33 once a day and in the same boat I never took high dose one think it helps vitamins tea and work out if you have energy . I was wondering if you have made it to the other side clean side let me know pls
Hey Chris I have some questions is there a way I can talk to you over the phone?
Don't take suboxone. It ruined my career and life. Made my bones and muscles weak. I slipped off a 6 inch curb and herniated my spine in 4 places after taking 24mg for 2 years.
On pain meds taken as prescribed I was rocking it. Working. On the Presidents list.
I should have never used this. I should have went to an in patient detox for 10 to 30 days. This medicine has ruined me! Hope it doesn't ruin you ❤
Why were you taking so much? I was never given more that 8mgs. I tapered off and now I'm free.
i'm on 16mg, and have been on for a little over a year now, but i don't even know where to start :(. I really want to be opiate free/drug free.
Start at cutting your dose down immediately. Sit there for a while to see your comfort level. Repeat
After 4-8 mg it’s all mental.. you think you need 16mg a day but that’s way overkill.. doubt you barely notice a difference from 16 down to 4
Down to 0.8 daily think I can get down to 0.4 in next few months
I’m on half a milligram and still can’t quit. Dr told me I was micro dosing but put me back on 2 mg. Like they don’t want me to quit.
I just went through this for years and couldn’t ever get past it. I tried multiple things and noticed a lot of people say to get the sublocade shot. I have never been addicted to opioids but was on prescribed pain meds for 10 years after 6 failed back surgeries. I do not have an addiction but the withdrawal from dependency SUCKED. I had one shot of the lowest strength and here we are 2.5 months and i do not feel any withdrawals or need another shot. I/2 mg here for several year and this is the solution to my problem. Best of luck to ya.
I had success years ago with your taper. Well, I tried to suggest this to another doctor when I was in treatment back in January. He told me I was over thinking it and it wouldn’t be effective. He dropped me at 2 milligrams, and that didn’t work out. Why do doctors have such varying views? From my experience, the things you have talked about are very true. But the rest of the industry tends to feel very differently, which leads to really poor treatment.
@@HalfwayJac in short because many doctors think we are making it up. Dogs are treated better than humans.
They dont want to get u off. Its money my friend.
@@stephenstuckey faxs
Is it possible to take the 2 milg and go down 0,10.every month until done?
The hardest part at least around here is finding a doctor that won't punish you for wanting to taper I finally found d a place that's been working with me and after 5 years trying to get off several ways I'm finally down to 0.5 MG
That’s great!
Yeah they want to keep u on it. They want your money. I mention lowering my dose or a taper and my doc says " No"! It wont work, your gonna be so sick this and that....blah blah. Gotta take it into your own hands.
I've stopped 2years while in the joint....then got out....etc...etc...
I’m still on the tablets because when I tried the strips I had a terrible reaction. I developed severe and painful blisters under my tongue that took over a month to heal, even after switching back to tablets. So I have to split up 2 mg tablets to ween down. I’m on 1.5 mg/day. I break a 2mg tab in half and then break one of those halves in half, and put a quarter back in the bottle. Recently, I have been shaving a corner off of the 1mg half to start weaning down towards just doing 1mg/day, but I’m nervous how to approach micro-dosing with such small pieces and then never really knowing how much I’ve taken. I can’t cut them super even like you would with strips. I really wish the pharmaceutical companies would make smaller dose pills to help people like me ween off.
That’s been a big complaint of mine as well. There are patches (Butrans) which is a smaller dose and might be an option in future. Talk to your doctor. Good luck and great job with your progress so far
@@dr.chrispark thank you!
@@dr.chrispark thank you! Once I’m down past 1mg a day I will definitely bring that up. Getting down to that 1mg is a struggle right now lol.
I went from a half to a 1/8 then went 3 days cold turkey but shit i got to go to work and ppl cant know at this point i just take dust every 24 hrs and my stomach is messed up i just cant go without the energy i wish there was a substitute thats not habit forming for the last step
There are a few options that can help at the end although none of them are perfect. Talk to your doctor and see what they think would be best for you
Man I get it Im Now 61 years old been on 1mm piece of an 8mg suboxon for 6 years so not alot in the first place...but the energy i get and the pain relieving is what I'll miss the most...now I'm trying to get off that crappy amount sucks...it's gonna be even smaller....
@@dr.chrispark I'm never going back to the"DR" there just pill pushers at any sub dr I have ever been to you can literally buy a appointment on line I was getting 90 a month no piss test we are just junkies for the legal drug now I want to feel the effect of my own stupidity because im not a pussy im done
@@juliodelrio1737 I had 3 full bottles of 30 saved up I dumped them in the river and posted it we are just cowards the moment you admit it you can take responsibility and control you earned the sniffles and restlesness for being a lowlife don't let your kids believe they come from a weak pos
Hay friend.25 days stoped Subutex .56 🌽 old we can do this
I know for me it’s really hard with the dosing getting it correct with an 8 mg strip I get very confused once we start getting into the 0.25 or 0.5 I mean what does that look like is that like 16 pieces of an 8 mg strip 30 pieces of an 8 mg strip it just gets very confusing. Maybe make a video on how to cut up an 8 mg strip into .05 or dosing measurements? I’m definitely under that 1 mg mark but it’s when I get into those lower dosing measurements that I feel I mess up and I go backwards.
Your doc can change you to the 2mg strips to make it much easier to get to lower doses
Crease an 8mg strip into 4. That's 2mg per rectangle. Now fold lengthwise to center on each end to divide the long 2mg rectangles into 1mg squares. There will be 8 of them. Now crease and fold so that each 1mg square gets divided into 4. Those are 0.25mg each. Total of 32 equal pieces of 0.25 mg
Man 15 years on for me...still 32mg per day
I'm just gonna save up 20k and get the brain reset shit.
Friend of mine did it. Didn’t work. Just waste of money. Do a 6 month stationary rehab
I went from 1 mg to 1/2 … cold turkey about 7 or 8 days ago. Only WD symptom has been being tired all the time.
It's coming
This video is a lot better and more realistic than the last one 😂
But in your defense, the last one was 4yrs ago. We’re all growing and learning more each day. I just recently graduated to 1/8th of a milligram about 3wks ago and Just Now started having withdrawal symptoms 2days ago hence why I started researching seems I was like 🙄 no way i just started withdrawing after 3wks 🤷♀️ but yeah, I am. I’ve been on it for 10yrs. Started out on 14-16mil (full dose) I switched to it to get off OxyContin. It didn’t get tough till I got below half a milligram, suddenly got really tough
Im down from 8mg to 2mgs in one mouth i will go to 1mg, one mouth i will do 1/2
Yes, I stayed on .50 for almost a month. I tried to got to .25 but got symptoms after 4 days and I jumped. I was never dopesick, just had insomnia. Work with your doc. Mine gave me a FEW benzos to sleep with. Temazapam and Clonodine helped. Good luck my friend, you won't be sorry!
I’ll never let them opiates or opioids or any other substance get me again, I was on 100 mgs of methadone for 20 years, did that cold turkey, it was rough
Blimey! That must've been absolute torture 😨😵, but fair-do's for 'coping' with it..👏✊
@@304Hibachi agony
@@nickycotton6137 it was pretty bad, i still felt paws over 16 months later
@@nickycotton6137 after a month of suffering I got me some Kratom because I was going crazy from no sleep and not eating, I was able to sleep a full night after hardly getting any sleep at all in that month, I don’t think I could ever do that again, I went to jail for 15 days got out and never went back to the clinic because I thought I had it halfway beaten, I did get some relief from the Kratom, I know that really isn’t cold turkey but I did suffer for a whole month without anything, that shit takes months, I was on it for 2 decades, I hurt my back at work in the late 1990s and was taking OCs that’s how I got started
@@These-nutz = Ah, Fair-Enough. Would probs 'ave done same (or LOTS of Pregabs that help any Cluck tbf), but couldn't Smoke Cig's/Weed when came off it! Was like the 2 went hand in hand last time on Physeptone (6yrs). Getting off Heroin did sod all for. edit: Ah-ha so put on it for the Med'S for your Back Pain eh. Took Nurofen+ for Toothache & ended up back on the Green stuff.👎
I was at 12mg. Dropped to 8mg for a while, then to 4mg. Now I cut the 8mg strip into 5 pieces. I now just take one of those. After this I’m gonna cut the 5 pieces in half to have basically 10 little squares of the strip….
I’m down to .25 of a mg. It’s hard as hell.. how about Kratom, any options
Relapse is too easy bruh. I tried using some new stuff out. I Fckd up doing that kinda like starting over 12 days in ..
Stay away from Kratom! How long did you taper? I tapered slowly and didn't suffer except for insomnia. That was 2022. Keep going my friend, you won't be sorry!
This is where I’m at now at 1mg/2mg I’m gonna take a half mg starting tomorrow
Iboga telegram dont mix with thc
Scared of throwing up from this medicine im on 16mg
It will happen but if your throwing up talk to your doc about lowering you dose a little,so it's not makin you throw up
If you're throwing up then your body does not want that much.
@@shawn.1932 i talking about withdrawal
@@MikeyBAAZ ok
@@MikeyBAAZ you got a doc
Waiting for his suboxone dealer
I got down here soooo easily I was at 14mgs and dropped to 1/2mgs in about 3 maybe 4 months at the most
Yea suboxone is a sticky drug and seems to work on the kappa and delta more then other opiates. Can be freakin insanely anoyying to come off. Not worse then other opiates but more dragged out and more irritating for sure.
has anyone ever heard about not being able to urinate while on suboxone?
urinary hesitancy is a common complaint
@@dr.chrispark is there a remedy? I had to jump off only 4 days after starting because I literally couldn't urinate super frustrating
@@gio1985s Would need to talk to your doctor to determine seriousness and options.
Could be constipation causing it. Blockage can put pressure and make it hard to pee. Take Miralax for a few days and work it out.
Awe, Doc' literally can't wait to get to that 1/2 mg's stage, but then again it makes me cringe just thinking about it. edit: Also depends how long one's been on it surely. Peace out Doc'..✌
Why the heck do Dr put people on this crap. Weaning off opioids was easier. I'm at .25 milg of Suboxone and I don't have months to stay there. I have 8 days and maybe a few days at .10 then done. This stuff should not be given out.
The point of this medicine is not for tapering. It's for saving people's lives. If heroin addicts could stop heroin, then they wouldn't need this medicine. Yes it's difficult to taper off of but that has nothing to do with its purpose.
I'm trying it your way now. I was weaning off too fast and it back fired. I'm stable now and will try a bit less Mon
It was actually .5 I was at not .25 it's so hard getting the doses right with strips. I'm determined though
@M. M I'm under 1 milg going down 0.05 every 3 weeks. I decided to take my time. I have 70 8 milgtam strips and literally can stay on them 4 years of I want to. I have a box of 30 2 milg strips . I don't want to be on this crap anymore and will wean off a slow as humanly possible. I bought all those strip from the street over time before wanting off and now I want off and have plenty of strips to where I do not need to rush it. I believe the slower I go the more successful I'll be.
@@carriewill777 I agree, 20 years since I took heroin, but still on the buprenorphine