@Shputim Shaqiri It's an opioid...and extremely extremely difficult to get off of when all is said and done. Opiates only take a few days to kick. Pharmaceuticals tout this novel opioid as a treatment for opiate addiction. At best, it is a highly, powerfully addictive substitute. At best---numbs the human and blunts emotions and reactions.... rots the teeth over time, blunts sexual response, and tends to make an outgoing person socially withdrawn for starters. These are just truths that the manufacturers do not want you to know. No, you won't crave opiates because you will be too full of a fake opiate to care. Then it takes years to stop the Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome, so that's just starters.
I had a total of 5 injections. The first 2 being 300mg, the last 3 we're 100mg. The last one was on 10/3/2021. So far so good. I feel amazing. Better than I've ever felt before. I was on Suboxone for 10 years, for a 1 year Percocet addiction! I'm so happy to be free from everything! I will forever be a testimony for Sublocade. God bless and good luck to you all!
I been on the injections for 3 years maybe.... I stoped going to the Dr. I was fine for a couple of months but the 3rd month I was having full withdrawals and had to make a appointment. I got my shot and they 7 suboxone to help me tell the shot kicked back in. I was on suboxone for 3 years before I went to the shots. I was hooked on pain pills for 18 years
@@jacksalami9945 so you had no withdraw at all I’m on 2 mg I wish I knew about the shot sooner I don’t think I can get on the 100 mg shot being on 2 mg
@@no-kap805 I too had no idea about Sublocade, I had never heard of it, I was in the waiting room for my monthly Doctor appointment and a guy sitting next to me told me about it. Then when seeing my Dr I told him I am just so tired of needing to take Suboxone daily and asked about Sublocade. He gave me the shot and said I would need to come back in a month for follow up doses. Yet after a month I didnt have any urge or need for a follow up. 6 month later I can honestly say I didnt feel the slightest withdrawals. It was the best thing I ever did. Good luck to you I hope somehow you can experience it also
Wow! That is so awesome!!! Congratulations. I don’t know if my sun dr office this at their clinic but if not I’m wanting to find a place near me that does. I’m hoping all I’ll need is one shot and then not have to get it again, while being free of with drawl. That would be a prayer answered and a dream come true!
So 23 months ago I started with the shot 300 mg the first 100 mg the next 10 . It should have been 11 but my new insurance wouldn’t cover it in such a short period of time . So it’s been 14 months no withdrawal no problem last month my piss test shows zero trace of Sublicade so I’m clean for the first time in 22 years
thats amazing man congrats! please let us know how you are today! I was approached this morning by my doc about this option, and I couldnt be more ready after about 8 years on subs,.. .im so over having to make sure i have them with me every where i go every day all the time.. it runs my life basically ...
I’ve been sober for three years now, I quit everything and experienced minimal withdrawals with sublocade injection. Very even, no highs and lows. Frankly it’s miracle after being dope addict for decade. I never thought this was possible, withdrawal symptoms are actually manageable. Try it
congrats! so happy to hear these testimonies !!! I have been on subs double the time i was on pills, im more scared to get off these then i ever was on percocets.. but this i feel like really could make a difference!
Hey, congrats! What was your taper? I just took my first injection, 100 mg and doc says I could try to keep this as my one and only or do 1 more after. I’m ready to be done with this
I wish every doctor in general cared as much as you do . I really appreciate you Doc from the bottom of my heart man. You really care and listen and understanding of people situation. Can I ask why doc why do you care so much . Does this hit home for you?? Either way thank you Doc you’ve Helped me so much man‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️💯
This is a Good and Honest man. You can tell he genuinely cares for the comfort and well being of his patients… what a decent guy. A doctor that is truly passionate with outstanding character!
How did you feel a week after your first shot? J/w cuz I felt horrible after day 8. For four months in a row I've had to call the doc and get supplemental suboxone, and each shot has been 300mg. I am sched. for a 5th shot of 300mg sublocade, as well as my 6th will be a 300mg. Tox results showed my metabolism is high and burns thru the injection too quickly, and my base levels of bupe after sublocade plummeted after a week each time. Even though I've had 4 shots, my bupe levels are showing a level of someone who has merely had one injection. If the numbers don't rise past a certain level after the 6th 300mg shot (painful fucking shit) then we're ditching the sublocade and going back to sublingual. So, just wondering how you're journey is going.... thanks.
@@paulmorley1225 i am so worried this will be me. I hope you are doing better! Any update? I for my first injection today. My doctor wouldn’t prescribe any tablets to have on hand if I start to have any withdrawals or cravings. I am to call if that happens but they are so hard to get a hold of. I’ll try not to think about it and get through. I just want off it all so I can be myself again!!
No withdrawal coming off of the shot and felt much better on it than the sub strips. I was in active withdrawal similar but less severe than methodone with the strips for two months. Amazing improvement that has helped me to remain clean post ending the drug.
This is why the shot is so awesome. IMO it shouldn’t be used as a replacement for Suboxone (even though it’s made by the same company) they intended it to be used long term but I don’t know why anyone would switch to the shot if they don’t plan on stopping bupe altogether. 3-4 months tops and then you should stop taking it.
I would like to thank everyone in the comments. I read most of them. I'm trying to get off suboxone strips. I didn't know how to without going through the withdrawals. I been on these subs for 3 years now. I was on percocet for 4 years. I'm going to ask my Doctor about this and see if it's ok for me to do. I really want my life back. Thank you Dr. B FOR THE VIDEO IT HELPED ME UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS NEW TO ME MEDICINE. I HOPE IT WORKS OUT FOR ME.
I just got my first shot of 300mg an hour ago. I was on 16mg strips a day for 9 months.. out of 73 patients my doctor has only 4 has came back for their second shot. They stated they didn't need it. Those patients were on strips between 1 and 2 years. I have to say I absolutely LOVE them numbers . Gives me hope
@@AmIamIknowIam it's my 10th day..so far I'm waking up feeling great, no lag, no little aches in my finger joints etc. I've noticed more energy throughout the night(if I wake up for second I feel wide awake no matter what time and how long I was sleeping for). So sleeping isn't the greatest..I have not yet had any anxiety or depression. No hot/cold flashes. Mentally in great. I have that natural high feeling when my brain remembers something's. Example. I have a Amazon package coming after work.i get that normal high like before I ever touched a narcotic. Overall just amazing. The medicine in my belly has down sized about 1/3 rd, which seems to be on track. I'm very careful around that area and I don't sleep on it trying to let it NATURALLY dissolve. I was told not to be hard on it and flatten it because my body would consume it faster. Everyday I actually take my finger on the sides and VERY GENTLY massage on it's sides to keep it's shape ......overall it's working great
Hi Megan, sorry for the late reply. last week on the april 28th, I received my last shot.I had a total of 4 shots 1st injection 300mg in January 2nd injection 300 mg February 3rd injection 100mg March & 4th injection 100mg last week....I am feeling great. During the whole process i've been pretty much leveled. Constipation comes and goes a little. I've not had the slightest withdrawal feeling ever. Sometimes i work in a controlled 32 degree environment, so trust me the slightest withdrawal, i will definitely notice. I honestly believe that I didn't need to get my 3rd and 4th shots. But i wanted to complete the 4 month process to give insight to others. I would say that I gained weight. my appetite definitely got bigger but that could have been avoided. Other than that i would say my sublicade adventure went very smoothly. I will be back on our comment feed in a few weeks, or earlier if you request.. hope this helps. Take care@@meganbessenbacher7107 @Syed Mehdi Shah
I TRIED TO TAG YOU IN OTHER COMMENT >>>sorry for the late reply. last week on the april 28th, I received my last shot.I had a total of 4 shots 1st injection 300mg in January 2nd injection 300 mg February 3rd injection 100mg March & 4th injection 100mg last week....I am feeling great. During the whole process i've been pretty much leveled. Constipation comes and goes a little. I've not had the slightest withdrawal feeling ever. Sometimes i work in a controlled 32 degree environment, so trust me the slightest withdrawal, i will definitely notice. I honestly believe that I didn't need to get my 3rd and 4th shots. But i wanted to complete the 4 month process to give insight to others. I would say that I gained weight. my appetite definitely got bigger but that could have been avoided. Other than that i would say my sublicade adventure went very smoothly. I will be back on our comment feed in a few weeks, or earlier if you request.. hope this helps. Take care
I have been taking suboxone for 6 years, it works ,but I'm just getting tired of putting it in my mouth, hate the taste! I'm 56 years old and I'm just burned out on it all, I would just love to be able to be free from it all, I've asked my doctor if I could switch off of the suboxone to the vivatral shot, I don't have cravings whatsoever for any drugs, it's just the feelings of being (sick) withdrawal off sunoxone that I don't want to go thru, I'm not strong enough to just quit on my own, thank you for this video and all you guys for telling how you've kicked it all since they got the shots,
I'm on my 8th 300mg shot. I love it. Best thing to ever happen to me. It literally satisfied all my cravings. I was a huge binge drinker before starting Sublocade. I'm 8 months sober from everything but weesd. I love it it's great, I recommend it..
Wait. They give sublocade too drinkers? And weed is not a drug. It alters our mind for the better if used properly and not constantly smoking all day. And it won't kill you.. ever.. lol Your clean and sober still as I smoke delta 8 and dabble with psychedelics too be my own lab rat hoping too find something that actually may be a curre for all addiction such as psilocybin mushrooms and lsd (both fungi psychedelics). Just because a cure hasn't been discovered, don't mean it's not out there. And I'm really starting too wonder if that's the soul purpose of mushrooms and lsd being a schedule I drug with heroin. Hmmmmmm.
@@Son-Of-David1990 no Im on Sublocade for my heroin addiction. As a bonus to stop shooting dope several times a day I was able to give up alcohol also. It works for me and I'm greatful.
@@ryanlukz3261 I'm still doing 300 mg a month. I tried the 100 and hated it and supplemented with 8 mg strip for 2 month. It didn't work very well for me at all. I'm back on 300 mg and all is well. You can be on either 100 or 300 its ur choice.
Enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing. On my second shot. 300mg. It's much better than the oral medication. I am very grateful for a different avenue of treatment.
I have been wanting off of opioids for 10 years now .. and Sublocade has been the answer! I took two 300MG SHOTS for the 1st two months and then switched to 100mg for the past three months! Now I'm waiting a an extra 2 weeks for my 4th shot of 100mg! I'm confident in being able to get off now!
@@richardnyc143 absolutely correct. I had offset my 4th shot by 2weeks and my 5th and last shot was offset by 3 weeks. I am just about 3 months off sublocade now and I can't believe how easy it the transition is going. I say transition because the sublocade is still detectable (and active)in the system for 6 months to a year. I couldn't be happier
Wow. 16-24 mg of sub seems like a lot. I wasnt a too heavy user though was daily on 30mg oxy. I was on 2mg suboxone for 6 yrs. went through 3 months of horrible withdrawals and now clean for 5 yrs
Came off Suboxone at 16 mg . Only T1 to hold my Bowels from not bowl explosion Felt like ripping my face off at times . Unfortunately I turned to Straight Vodka Some days to cope . I couldn't care how much someone pissed me I I could not wish it on them . 2 days my legs vibrated and the pain is just different . I was exhausted but could not find sleep . Chopping my legs off was a consideration . Unfortunately not an option.
It’s weird. I know people who took heroin and were able to maintain with 8 mg and got to 4 rather quickly, then I know little women who only took Vicodin and are taking 16 mg daily. I stayed in that 2-4mg range as well
PLEASE PEOPLE PLEASE, if you really want to be helpful, please say how much suboxone and how long you were on before the sublocade shot that you went on and how milligrams you started out with on each sublocade shot. THAT WOULD HELP US ALL. This is a common trend in the questions. People are asking questions and I don’t see a whole lot of people responding to the questions. THANK YOU
Mate, all the way from Tasmania Australia I thank you for the great information you provided. My doctors and drug counselor don't know nothing about this new injection. I thank you again because info like this is hard to come by easily here in my very small state🙂👍
So i was on suboxone for about a year switched to sublocade got about 5 shots, and now ive been of it completely for 6 months now. Fantastic. One question and concern i have though is, im extremely skinny and not sure if that has anything to do with it but basically I still have all 5 lumps from the injection sites still, not painful but very Hard and the surrounding area of my lower abdomen muscles have felt very weak ever since then and show 0 signs of going away, getting better and I can only hope this is an over active imagination but even slowly getting worse, and im wondering if anyones had this or any similar issues with the injection sites after being off of it or even while still on it. I wish everyone nothing but strength on their journey. It does get better.
Helloooo Dr. B it’s your fan Gianna Frigerio from Rutherford, N.J. I’m sure you’ll remember me. I always watch the videos and they’re ALWAYS GOOD!! It would be really really nice if you could get on tv someday. Okay then, waiting for other videos. Hope all’s well have a nice day 😊
Hi Doc....im Chris I'm an addict from Tennessee. I'm in MAT program through Vanderbilt. Very good supportive program. They offered if I wanted the shot. I've heard lots of people say coming off completely (when ready of course) is easiest through the shot and their bodies don't notice the sudden stop of. Can you please elaborate on that because my year is coming up and I don't want to be on Suboxone another 4 yrs like last time. I'm mentally ready and really just want to feel completely clean and pure with nothing. Thank you
Get it!!!!!!! Read my post up above and my comment I'm on my 10 th day after my 1st shot I'm feeling great. Been on subs for almost a year. Over taking them aswell actually. Trust me buddy please get the shot
I used to be in the Vanderbilt program about 5 years ago for years…had my baby girl on suboxone through their program and continued on with dr.fin…I ended up at pathways in Madison and got the shot there at the beginning of this year. I’m 3 months out from my last shot, and though I’ve had a few weeks of more fatigue and sleep, it’s been a GOD SEND! If you still haven’t pulled the trigger, do it!
I am scared of what im up against. There is almost no info to educate how to stop and what to expect. I decided to stop. Last month was my last injection.
Stronger Together, did you stop the Sublicade?? How do you feel? Did you have withdrawals? I’m stuck on Suboxone and desperate for solutions! I hope you’re OK. Any advice? PLEASE
Doctor, You must have a Video about Sublocade Injections, because I was seriously injured by a Sublocade injection in my Navel Cavity and almost died. She injected it in my Navel where I had an Umbilical Hernia also...I contracted massive Pulsitile Tinnitus and Stenosis of my brain vessels. It is a seriously dangerous drug.
Excellent information, i just took my first shot a week ago of 300mg and i feel great, not going to lie it did hurt like hell for about 3-5 min (more like a burning sensation) but its very barable i promise you. Im honestly just a cry baby and hate needles lol but other than that i feel amazing and i recommend this to anyone and everyone, and plus I've personally talked to about 6 other people who have been on it before and are completely off it now and they said they had absolutely NO WITHDRAWLS AT ALL and so for me personally that was one of the main reasons for me getting on it in the first place, but like i said its only been a week but so far so absolutely good and from what I've heard from people on a personal level they loved it too and so if your thinking about it I SAY GIVE IT A SHOT WHAT YOU GOT TO LOSE. Best of luck to all of you that are fighting this opiate addiction out there and if u have any questions for me please please feel free to leave me a message anytime on her just to get some feed back on how its going and i will surely get a notification and message you back immediately I PROMISE. GOD BLESS
i hope i can just take a 100mg shot and then never look back again. im down to .5mg twice a day and im getting close to being ready to stop everything but im hopeing this method will be easier to do it. just take one shot and and let the medication slowly get out of my system from there. and hopefully not have to much withdrawl
Ive been under a psychiatrists carenthrough the VA for almost 4 years now and they offered me the Sublocade shit today. Thankfully my doctor was just like you. He told me that it would work best when I have a better grip on my stressers and dont think of opiates as a way to deal with stress. So, for now, im still on the Suboxone sublingual tablets. I havent relapsed during my 3 years and 9 months of treatment, but ive had moments where I almost caved because of stress, so I wont do the shot just yet. I will be entering a DBT therapy group soon to learn mkre coping skills so hopefully things will keep coming.together. i really want this time to work. I appreciate this video.
Do you suffer withdrawals Dr B? Ive took this Suboxone for about 15 plus yrs and I'm so ready to get off this! Should I take this shot! Does the shot work same as tablets do? Ohh, I need a change I'm just sick of pills period! Thank you Dr, B GOD BLESS YOU ✝️🙏
I received the Sublocade about 12 hours ago. It did kind of hurt like a bitch for 30-60 seconds then just kinda hurt for a few mins and now it's just a bit sore. My Doctor did offer me Motrin but I had some in my bag. I would say in less than five minutes I was able to get up off the table and be comfortable enough to sit up and talk or to leave the room. I feel different... idk how to describe it, not a high, maybe a bit of a buzz. I am really concerned about my testosterone level, do I bring that up with my Sublocade provider or my primary care?
@@jmr6117 No you cannot take Methadone and Suboxone/Sublocade at the same time. You have to detox off methadone for like at least a week before beginning Suboxone.
Good stuff but you missed the best reason to go with sublocade over suboxone. NO WITHDRAWALS. For the first time ever we have a royal road off of opiates. Yes, i know your supposee to taper down and come off the subs with minimal withdrawal. this is fantasy. the taper down process sucks. then coming off sucks. infact if you cold turkey without a taper the withdrawal is much worse than straight opaite withdrawal. iv seen the taper process work and get people off opiates withdrawal maybe twice out out hundreds. Coming off sublocade was a breeze. i couldnt believe it when they told me it was out of my system the shot can hurt a little bit but you want to get licocane to rub on your stomach before hand. just ask your doc for it. i didnt have the licocane when i went thru the process but i hear it helps. also.. you dont have to get the shot every month like they say. the 10 mg hurts and after 60 days i still had the same levels as i had after one week. so i would go and get the shot every other month and my levels were the exact same as the people getting the shot every month. So if the shot hurts you.... just get it every other month. that seems to be fine with levels of bup in your system and u only have to get half the amount of shots that sting a little. its actaully harder to keep the sublocade shot hidden cuz of the bump on your stomach. just putting something under your tonge is easy. hiding a big bump under your skin is hard. being ablke to dose yourself is not necessarily a good thing mentally. maybe if they like the taste or the routine, thats OK. but you dont want someone using the subs for anxiety control or something. which seems to happen a lot w sublingual tabs. someone gets a llitte chill down there spine and thinks they need to take a sub to be ok. When in actuality its just a normal biorhythm throughout the day or a situation that would be anxiety inducing for a normal person. the Suboxone user can take more Suboxone during that time. its gives them bad habits and a focus on ingesting a chemical to be confortable when your going to have to eventually deal with that situation and those feeling without the suboxone. when you have the sublocade shot in you, you just think " OK this isnt withdrawal or post accuate withdrawal. this is a normal semi unconfortable experience that im just going to have to get through.
This helped me a lot to make my decision. I'm not sure if I want to switch to this. I was worried that it might be less effective in the last few days of the dose
I wonder if this same technology would be able to work with full agonist opioids that'd be awesome and doctors wouldn't have to worry about diversion or patients abusing their meds
I'm so ready to make this jump, been doing a lot of research on reddit and elsewhere to help determine my willpower with this. I find the dosing ritual to be comforting but I'm pretty sure that's my addict brain, not really a positive. It would be helpful for people like me who feel that need to place a sub, to be able to take a dummy strip in place of the real one, to kinda keep that ritual but able to break it easier without wds, or pwd. Sometimes it's really just the act of placing it and dissolving it as we do our daily routines that's needed, while the injection works in the background.. hopefully that makes sense, it's been a long day for me so the right words aren't coming to me as they normally would.. lol Just a thought on what could help people who really need that sub ritual while tapering off on the Subutex!
I think I’d prefer to stay on the strips. Personally I don’t like the idea of not being in control of how much buprenorphine is released in my body on a day to day basis. Because some days I take less than other days. Some days I have to let the buprenorphine clear out of my system for 12 hours to a day before taking more or my brain will just get tired of being on it nonstop, and also so I’m not tired 24/7. Taking less some days can also help me with tapering down on my own.
Late but my experience, 8 freaking years on Suboxen, yes eight I was addicted! Was told to try sublocade, took sublocade. Utterly hated it, made me feel lazy and tired all day, I was so miserable I was able to just not take a dam thing after it wore off. It’s been eight months and I’m glad I happen to be what seems like a small portion that does not do well with Sublocade. I am so happy to be away from that entire addiction. Honestly think Suboxone clinics are just dealers getting ppl hooked on
I was on the shot for 9mths… they left me on 300mg and I’ve been having on and off withdrawal for over a year now. It’s still in my system and I’m honestly just waiting for this nightmare to be over. I do have mental health disorders and that’s what’s mainly being amped up… not sure if that’s why it’s been such a struggle but people should know it’s not a smooth ride for everyone. I’ve been on vivitrol, suboxone, subutex and then sublocade.
I hope you're right. I've been on 2 pills of 8mg a day since 2010. I cry inside, and sometimes out, every time I take it. I'm SO DONE with it. SO DONE. I'm going to try what you said. I hope it works. I want off it ALL. And it seems this is the way to do it??!
@richards8438 thanks. Just found out my insurance covers. Next step talk to doc about it in about 2 weeks.. how much suboxone did you need to be taking to take it? I'm down to 1/2 to 3/4 of a 1.4 MG zubsolv(generic) .. seems I may need to up it a bit
Hey Papa Doc, Sam Afgan here. Had to change my name because my account was erased under my original name because I made a video about how the Moderna Vaccine gave me severe myocarditis and even believe it or not left ventricular problems my c reactive protein was over 8 from the shots. Anyways to the point of this video I’m actually finally getting off the suboxone now with almost no withdrawals because I took months to study and find the best compounds to help get off the opioids. Here are the magical compounds to significantly help get off opioids that most people don’t even know about. First “Memantine” which is one of the most proper NMDA antagonists like DXM or ketamine but it doesn’t cause psychoactive effects like those compounds and has a longer half life. In Iran there’s tons of studies on this and they actually use memantine or dxm in their methadone clinics they give patients one of these nmda antagonists along with their methadone or suboxone and it prevents them from developing a tolerance so they can stay on lower doses. Next injections of Cerebrolysin and Cortexin these are peptides from porcine sources which basically means it’s peptides extracted from pigs brains like BDNF and NGF, in America you don’t hear of these compounds because in America it’s not profitable to cure things these peptides cause massive amounts of neurogenesis like lions mane mushrooms are supposed to. If you inject and NOT IV but IM over 15ml of cerebrolysin it actually stops withdrawals so that kind of enforced my belief that one of the reasons ibogaine helps so much must be because it induces neurogenesis. Then there’s a anti inflammatory compound known as “ibudilast” another compound that helps with opioid withdrawals, lastly there is a peptide known as DSIP aka Delta Sleep Inducing Peptide there’s studies on how this peptide helps alleviate opioid withdrawals and since it is a peptide for sleep mainly i take it at night to help actually get decent sleep because that’s one of the biggest issues with coming off opioids is the insomnia and the less you sleep the crappier you feel and the slower you recover. Finally after 6 years I’m on my way to get off the suboxone. I’m one of those who believes the suboxone is harder to come off of than heroin. I guess it’s true that the longer the half life of a drug the more difficult and lengthy the withdrawals will be.
Can I please ask you why suboxone prescribers do NOT tell patients about Post Acute Withdrawal risks associated with coming off suboXX?? Why do doctors, generally speaking, overprescribe? You all give the average bear 16+ mgs daily when you all know very well that 1.5- 2mgs would comfortably do better than 100%? Why don't you tell patients all (ALL) the side effects??? and risks? Just curious.
They do, and account for PAWS. At least in my experience. The doctor here has videos on it too I believe. Also, everybody has different needs. 1-2mg of Suboxone just isn't enough to keep me comfortable.
Absolutely 1.5-2mg over a 24 hour period would end up with WD by the end of the 24 hour day. Although 16mg+ does seem like a lot long term. However when you’re coming off of stronger opiates/opioids they may need more than 16mg for a short period of time before coming down.
Methadone has saved my life 😇 I've been sober for over 2 years now by the grace of God 💕 but I'm now looking into other options so I can eventually get myself off of everything 🙏🏾
@@thatspiritualgirlcierra_9115 you will feel the pain after couples years ,i can tell methadone destroy my life ,after 18 years i can't handle this no more..i need to know if subuclode work for methadone users.
I started out at three 8 mg suboxone films daily 18 months ago. I’ve tapered down to just one 8 mg film daily and will be switching to the Sublocade shot in December. My question is, does body weight determine the amount I should be given? I’ve gained 40 lbs over the past 2 years of sobriety.
Agreed. The Doc will worry about that. Whether you get the 300 mg shot or the hundred milligram shot depends on how much Suboxone or Buprenorphine you are on. It has nothing to do with your weight
I wonder, if you are stable on a low dose of Suboxone, say 2mg or 4mg of Suboxone per day, would you be able to get a Sublocade injection at a lower dose than the 300mg/month one you mentioned? Is there a shot available that is 50mg/month? If so, would you then be able to get that 50mg injection, go the 25-30 days after the injection was administered, and use that delivery method to become physically non-dependent from the medication? Logically, it sounds like that would create an environment that would provide patients to experience a much more comfortable taper process, with the end goal of being free from Suboxone or any medication assisted treatment, but I do not know if it works that way. Thank you.
Yes. New, competing medication. Just approved by the FDA called Brixadi. They have multiple different dosages available and it can be injected in sites other than the umbilical area.
Thank you for asking this question. I was wondering the same thing. I’ve tapered myself down to 2mg Suboxone a day and I’ve been looking into the shot for a while now, wondering if since I take such a low dose steady that I wouldn’t be able to get the Sublocade since it seems like so many more mgs than I’d need.
Hi Dr B, I just want to thank you for making these videos. I have been on methadone and I'm now on suboxone and tapering off, I only see a dr for my script (and he's great) but I don't have a cpn or recovery dr so you really have helped me so much. ❤ thank you 🏴
Medicated assistance therapy- he said the term isn’t used anymore but getting on sublocade just this month they did use that term! I’m not sure why he said they don’t use that term anymore because I was just in rehab the past four weeks and they were using that term. I wonder if the rehab I was at is just a bad rehab center….. it was pretty disorganized.
Great video doc. I was offered this, and considered it being that suboxone taste like rat piss 🤣 . I decided against it for no other reason than I hate needles. Suboxone does taste horrible, unless it's the strips, but my doctor tells me insurance won't pay for the same. I do have a question. What if you're in a car wreck or need surgery and require opiods for pain in a hospital setting? Is there a way around this, and do you need to wear a bracelet or have some form of info that tells first responders you have this gel / medication in hour body? Thanks again doc for all you do in warm reduction. The gold standard. 💘
Oh if you have to have surgery and you’re on sub then your are just up a shyt creek without a paddle! I have Graves disease and had a thyroidectomy. My surgery was 5-6 hours longer than most because my thyroid goiter had grown backwards and intertwined in my spine somehow? Anyway, a normal thyroidectomy isn’t supposed to hurt too much I don’t think. My incision in front wasn’t bad at all. However, omg, the back of my neck hurt so bad I felt like I could’ve died! It would’ve been relief to have had isis cut my head off! That’s probably a horrible thing to say but that’s how I felt at the time. My doctor of course acted as though I was a baby but it was every bit as bad as giving birth with no epidural or pain medication. Different kind of pain but nonetheless... So, in the hospital I was on fentanyl, Percocet and dilaudid. I truly don’t believe it even touched the pain at all. The Sub blocked any of the pain relief. Gosh it was truly horrendous. Therefore, I am wanting so badly to get off sub because if I have a car wreck or some other surgery(I’m sick always), I don’t want to ever endure that type of agonizing pain again! It’s pure he11! Just informing you since you asked:) 😩😂
From what I've heard it requires high doses a very lipophilic opioids such as fentanyl and dilaudid to be able to knock the buprenorphine off of the receptor site.
Since being on sublocade it stopped my period completely. I just saw a comment on another page and the girl had the same as me and I was relieved because I get no answers.
Does sublocade have the same efficacy in pain relief that sublingual buprenorphine does? I'm always interested in learning about different treatments. Thanks!
@@leecarcana1287 Suboxone has a somewhat less analgesic effect because of the naloxone than Subutex but not by much. Buprenorphine is 25-100 times more potent than morphine. It has a different make up than other opioids and like Dr B has said is the Ferrari of pain meds. For me the longer half life is the life saver. It stays withdrawal for up to 72 hours but the analgesic properties last at least 12 hours with a super fast onset of relief. I'm so glad so much research is coming out on it's benefits as a stand alone pain medication. It would be nice for chronic pain patients to be able to use it without the stigma.
@@leecarcana1287 if you're not an addict & don't have a tolerance I'm sure it can. Buprenorphine is very strong, the formulations of buprenorphine for pain are only .3mg (buprenex & temgesic).
That's demonstrably false. Studies show buprenorphine analgesia has no ceiling effect like respiratory depression and, if anything, provides more analgesia than morphine.
Every where that I’ve read about this shot states that there is little to no withdrawal because its deposited slowly over time.. not really sure how to explain it
I have been on Sublocade for two years now, and I absolutely love it. Works much better for me than the sublingual products, and I never have to think about it or have narcotics in my possession which is great. I would just suggest that everyone use an ice pack on the injection site for at least 10 minutes prior to injection, as it is painful. Another thing is I'm maintained on 300mg, as the 100mg dose wasn't enough, and I was experiencing withdrawal symptoms.
@@CB-lv1ws still feel okay? Thinking about this route to get off suboxone but I’m on 1.5-2mg a day so would maybe need to go my dose or take the 100mg. I want to get the least ammount of shots possible I can
@@jaydens2756 I think they want you on 300 at first anyway. So that means you have to go up to eight and at least every day before you even go that route.
Doc what if you are in a painful accident and need narcotic analgesics? This is also the issue I have with the pill form of buprenorphine since the buprenorphine itself is such a strong antagonist at the receptor, I could only imagine what the shot would do to it, I no I'm paranoid but is this an issue you see alot with your buprenorphine patients....?
High doses of a very lipophilic opioid such as fentanyl and dilaudid is what I've been told by my doctor along with other drugs such as ketamine. My brother compound fractured his leg while on Suboxone so I'm speaking from his experience.
So I take 8mg BID. Starting with 300mg injection. I’m worried about how the 30g will affect me. I’m worried that it’s going to be too much. I’m in the working world now lol… I can’t look high…
My experience is unique. It started out normal and😊 one episode I couldn't hold a conversation. I had learned new task at my job on Friday and got high over the weekend and would forget the new learned information. It got to the point I had to take 4 Xanax bars or klonopins to handle the meth.
Does anyone have any advice for me? Today I went in to get my first injection. I want to go on it for many reason. I've been on films for almost 5 years. I'm ready to come off and I've been told the injection is a great way to come off. But today I had a panic attack and I changed my mind. My pain tolerance has gone down extremely low since becoming an opiate addict. I'm afraid of how badly it hurts. But I am also afraid of how I will do mentally. I cant just take something if I start to feel sick. I really do want to go on this injection but these two things are holding me back. They said they will hold the sublocaide for me unless I decide I really don't want it.
When you did dope did you get that worried ? Isn’t 2 mins of pain worth not having to worry about it anymore ? Get the shot. It’s the best thing I ever did
I highly been thinking about switching to the shot and been on the oral Subutex for close to ten years and was thinking back when I was getting it off the street and trying to get off or wien down myself and there was times when I couldn't find anything for days or week at a time and would be sick and couldn't move but as soon as I seen the subs I had relief just seeing it and realized alot of how I felt was in my mind! I know a few friends who have done the shot had had no withdrawals and for me I believe not having to wake up everyday and take a pill to start your day would help mentally to make you maybe think your not on it or as focused on taking something just to function 🤔 my doctor said I can try it and if I absolutely don't like it or it don't work that I can always go back on the pills which was comforting!
I have a question, I’m getting the Sublocade shot in 8 days. I have been on Suboxone 12yrs. I am looking at getting a few surgeries , now how would that work?
Actually, myself included, I know people, as you said, that the dosing every day is part of recovery. We don't like the idea of taking something even once a day. I break mine up to four times a day. One, it helps with pain, the reason I started opioids in the first place. Second, looking forward to having something to take is calming. I don't know why. We all seem to think it works for us. I take 16mg in 24 hour period. Basically, the way my friends and I have described it, is that when you're used to taking pills every few hours, for years and years, it just helps to do it this way.
My counselor says that you’re not supposed to use it as a reward. It helps to keep that brain circuit alive that helped make us addicts in the first place. I suppose that’s if you want to eventually come off of bupe one day. But if you want to stay on it indefinitely who cares I guess.
@@EdwardRatliff as time goes by, you take it further and further apart. But I was also told to break mine up for pain, as well. The first reason I got addicted in the first place.
I know exactly what you're saying I take 1mg 4 times a day but after so many years I really feel it's completely numbing me anymore so considering the injection
This is the exact reason that I got on the shot in the first place because not having to take pills every day makes me feel like a normal person but that's just me
I have a question @Dr. B Addiction Recovery, I have been on 2 6mg strips (more when I overtook) for 6 yrs. I have had 3 300mg shots of Sublocade and I always felt like I was in withdrawal later in the evening on suboxone like I wasnt at the right level. Since I have been on Sublocade I feel "normal" having my shot and taking 1 strip a day. I feel like Im not getting the correct levels either way and its leaving me craving and over taking. I dont know how to explain to my Dr. I really want to take the shot. I feel like I have an issue also not taking something each day. What can I do. Why am I feeling like this? Thanks Dr.
I've been on strictly Suboxone and I lay Suboxone (no psych meds, gabapentin etc) for three years now and I'm considering but worried about days 25-30.
I’ve been on this drug for 4 years now 300mg I need someone to talk to that’s in a similar situation will I ever be allowed to come off or am I on it for the rest of my life
Quick question: This is in regard to the Alvogen brand, I’ve been feeling sick from taking it and one day it fell in water and the strip dissolved but the white #8s did not so I tried taking the strips cutting out the 8s and I feel much better. Anyone else have a similar experience? Are those white 8s toxic?
@@Son-Of-David1990 dr. reddys doesn't work as well as name brand suboxone for me. haven't had any issue with alvogen either. everyone's chemistry is different though. getting the sublocade shot tomorrow (hopefully). I'm stoked to not have to mess with these dang strips everyday.
Finally someone else notices. I found out the same thing and began ripping out all the numbers and felt a lot better too and have been doing it ever since
I went to detox for 11 days got the Sublocade injection 300mg 10 days ago from 9 years of being on methadone and 23 yrs on and and off heroin I'm still withdrawing trying not to use Suboxone if I don't use the Suboxone I'll end up using heroin and I can still feel and taste it if I have nothing Im still feeling unwell. Whole point of me getting on Sublocade was not having to take something everyday just to feel like a "normal" person whatever the hell that's meant to mean. I feel like such a failure and I'm really disappointed and hating myself ATM I really wanted to be clean.
Yoo finally somebody answer my question i am in methadone for 18 years 37 mm right now ,and my Dr offer me this shit ,but i am a little be you know thinking about it,cuz i don't want to feel sick again like you say.how you feel 6 months later ? I hope you are doing ok !
Hey Nixao don't be so hard on yourself man be thankful your in the mind state you wanna be clean. I'm withdrawaling of herion 4 days wanna die, but fuck it I'll give it one more try to clean up with this sublocade. Best wishes for you man
@@jmr6117 I'm still using still getting the injections to I have good days and bad days. If you can get into a detox and do it it's worth it. I was doing good but kinda fucked up . I like not going to get a dose everyday.
@@nixao8997 yeah man me too after the herion done I gotta find a way of the meth pills. I've detoxed a few times it gets harder the older you get man it's brutal. Gotta be on strong stubborn mf to kick and stay clean.
For everybody out there that's deciding to get on the shot like me.. the sooner the better because I'm telling you all the stuff out there now is cut with poison I have never seen a 46 year old to be so unhealthy in my life it just seems to be one thing after another and if I'm lucky I'll get out of this without a major illness that kills me get off as soon as you can your life depends on it
Any thoughts on psychedelics being looked into for treatment or a possible cure for addiction? Such as psilocybin mushrooms, LSD, DMT, ayahuasca etc. I mean these are drugs that induce feelings, not hide them away. So your forced too feel and see the world for what it is and see who we truly are. Idk about anyone else but I've come too some heavy realizations the past 7 times I did 150 micrograms of lsd within the last year, and I've been clean and sober for 2 years on 24 mg of suboxone a day, and instantly felt fine dropping very low mg very quickly from 24 mg a day too 4 mg a day withing a month of tripping balls and microdosing. Could go 1 of 2 ways. It could be a possible treatment option or 2. maybe this will cure it and come as a threat too the pharmaceutical companies and will shut it down lol
I used to take 140-200ug of LSD now and then when I was around 16-17 and now I have HPPD even though I would never do it all the time. Be careful. Now some days l just sit there and all of a sudden see white orbs raining from the sky and start tripping for a few minutes then it immediately goes away.
Microdosing is definitely the way of the future, and i think any personal exploration is worthwhile but I worry anytime people suggest alternatives to MATs because of the stigma associated with them. There are still so many people pushing abstinence only and 12 step programs for opioid dependence disorder...which we all know is not logical. So we should always double down on the rhetoric that medication assisted treatment is a positive :)
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No this does not help for benzo at all!!!
@Shputim Shaqiri It's an opioid...and extremely extremely difficult to get off of when all is said and done. Opiates only take a few days to kick. Pharmaceuticals tout this novel opioid as a treatment for opiate addiction. At best, it is a highly, powerfully addictive substitute. At best---numbs the human and blunts emotions and reactions.... rots the teeth over time, blunts sexual response, and tends to make an outgoing person socially withdrawn for starters. These are just truths that the manufacturers do not want you to know. No, you won't crave opiates because you will be too full of a fake opiate to care. Then it takes years to stop the Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome, so that's just starters.
@@GoodPennyYHWHsaves Soo scared is exactly how I'm feeling want to get off
@@leecarcana1287 You can....it will be the fight of your life....but I promise: YOU CAN DO THIS 💗💗
I shoot my suboxone everyday I can't stop man I know I'm foolish I want to switch to this
I had a total of 5 injections. The first 2 being 300mg, the last 3 we're 100mg. The last one was on 10/3/2021. So far so good. I feel amazing. Better than I've ever felt before. I was on Suboxone for 10 years, for a 1 year Percocet addiction! I'm so happy to be free from everything! I will forever be a testimony for Sublocade. God bless and good luck to you all!
I been on the injections for 3 years maybe.... I stoped going to the Dr. I was fine for a couple of months but the 3rd month I was having full withdrawals and had to make a appointment. I got my shot and they 7 suboxone to help me tell the shot kicked back in. I was on suboxone for 3 years before I went to the shots. I was hooked on pain pills for 18 years
Suboxone for 6 years, then just 1 shot of Sublocade in Aug 21, been clean ever since
@@jacksalami9945 so you had no withdraw at all I’m on 2 mg I wish I knew about the shot sooner I don’t think I can get on the 100 mg shot being on 2 mg
@@no-kap805 I too had no idea about Sublocade, I had never heard of it, I was in the waiting room for my monthly Doctor appointment and a guy sitting next to me told me about it. Then when seeing my Dr I told him I am just so tired of needing to take Suboxone daily and asked about Sublocade. He gave me the shot and said I would need to come back in a month for follow up doses. Yet after a month I didnt have any urge or need for a follow up. 6 month later I can honestly say I didnt feel the slightest withdrawals. It was the best thing I ever did. Good luck to you I hope somehow you can experience it also
@@jacksalami9945 awesome God is good I’m happy you made it
I participated in the clinical trials in 2013, it saved my life! 9 years 5 months clean time
Wow! That is so awesome!!! Congratulations. I don’t know if my sun dr office this at their clinic but if not I’m wanting to find a place near me that does. I’m hoping all I’ll need is one shot and then not have to get it again, while being free of with drawl. That would be a prayer answered and a dream come true!
Awesome 👌
4 years myself, congrats 👏
Thank you! You’ve no doubt saved many lives!
Wonderful ❤! SUBOXONE SAVED MY LIFE AND, MY BROTHERS! I WISH ALL ADDICTS WOULD GIVE IT A TRY! 🙏☑️
So 23 months ago I started with the shot 300 mg the first 100 mg the next 10 . It should have been 11 but my new insurance wouldn’t cover it in such a short period of time . So it’s been 14 months no withdrawal no problem last month my piss test shows zero trace of Sublicade so I’m clean for the first time in 22 years
hey so its been 14 months since your last shot ? and you had no withdrawl and your clean now??????????
Hell yeah, how are you feeling still?
thats amazing man congrats! please let us know how you are today! I was approached this morning by my doc about this option, and I couldnt be more ready after about 8 years on subs,.. .im so over having to make sure i have them with me every where i go every day all the time.. it runs my life basically ...
That's AMAZING!!
3 years since my last shot never had a problem no withdrawals ever it’s an amazing medicine.
I’ve been sober for three years now, I quit everything and experienced minimal withdrawals with sublocade injection. Very even, no highs and lows. Frankly it’s miracle after being dope addict for decade. I never thought this was possible, withdrawal symptoms are actually manageable. Try it
My experience also. Don’t take Suboxone it’s the work of the Devil !
congrats! so happy to hear these testimonies !!! I have been on subs double the time i was on pills, im more scared to get off these then i ever was on percocets.. but this i feel like really could make a difference!
Hey, congrats! What was your taper? I just took my first injection, 100 mg and doc says I could try to keep this as my one and only or do 1 more after. I’m ready to be done with this
I wish every doctor in general cared as much as you do . I really appreciate you Doc from the bottom of my heart man. You really care and listen and understanding of people situation. Can I ask why doc why do you care so much . Does this hit home for you?? Either way thank you Doc you’ve Helped me so much man‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️💯
Thank you and obliged. Yes, hits home in many many ways. Hope it helps✌️
Thank you! Thank you for explaining in an understandable way as a medical professional. Thank you!
What up crip mac
This is a Good and Honest man. You can tell he genuinely cares for the comfort and well being of his patients… what a decent guy. A doctor that is truly passionate with outstanding character!
Literally just got my first shot, it's really expensive but my insurance is covering it, I've been on suboxone for 2-3 years, this is a godsend
How did you feel a week after your first shot? J/w cuz I felt horrible after day 8. For four months in a row I've had to call the doc and get supplemental suboxone, and each shot has been 300mg. I am sched. for a 5th shot of 300mg sublocade, as well as my 6th will be a 300mg. Tox results showed my metabolism is high and burns thru the injection too quickly, and my base levels of bupe after sublocade plummeted after a week each time. Even though I've had 4 shots, my bupe levels are showing a level of someone who has merely had one injection. If the numbers don't rise past a certain level after the 6th 300mg shot (painful fucking shit) then we're ditching the sublocade and going back to sublingual. So, just wondering how you're journey is going.... thanks.
How much is it? Im in Australia and i pay $60 a month
Hi @eagleclaw32 have you been successful with this as of today??!
@@paulmorley1225 i am so worried this will be me. I hope you are doing better! Any update?
I for my first injection today. My doctor wouldn’t prescribe any tablets to have on hand if I start to have any withdrawals or cravings. I am to call if that happens but they are so hard to get a hold of. I’ll try not to think about it and get through. I just want off it all so I can be myself again!!
In the UK we have Buvidal, I had my last jab 5 weeks ago, feeling good and returning to self employment next week . 👍
How'd it go?
@@BreaktheChains24they top the world,
Took my first today. Been on subs for 4 years. I feel great. Grateful my doctors office offered this.
update?
No withdrawal coming off of the shot and felt much better on it than the sub strips. I was in active withdrawal similar but less severe than methodone with the strips for two months. Amazing improvement that has helped me to remain clean post ending the drug.
This is why the shot is so awesome. IMO it shouldn’t be used as a replacement for Suboxone (even though it’s made by the same company) they intended it to be used long term but I don’t know why anyone would switch to the shot if they don’t plan on stopping bupe altogether. 3-4 months tops and then you should stop taking it.
I would like to thank everyone in the comments. I read most of them. I'm trying to get off suboxone strips. I didn't know how to without going through the withdrawals. I been on these subs for 3 years now. I was on percocet for 4 years. I'm going to ask my Doctor about this and see if it's ok for me to do. I really want my life back. Thank you Dr. B FOR THE VIDEO IT HELPED ME UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS NEW TO ME MEDICINE. I HOPE IT WORKS OUT FOR ME.
I just got my first shot of 300mg an hour ago. I was on 16mg strips a day for 9 months.. out of 73 patients my doctor has only 4 has came back for their second shot. They stated they didn't need it. Those patients were on strips between 1 and 2 years. I have to say I absolutely LOVE them numbers . Gives me hope
How you feeling? Update please
@@AmIamIknowIam it's my 10th day..so far I'm waking up feeling great, no lag, no little aches in my finger joints etc. I've noticed more energy throughout the night(if I wake up for second I feel wide awake no matter what time and how long I was sleeping for). So sleeping isn't the greatest..I have not yet had any anxiety or depression. No hot/cold flashes. Mentally in great. I have that natural high feeling when my brain remembers something's. Example. I have a Amazon package coming after work.i get that normal high like before I ever touched a narcotic. Overall just amazing. The medicine in my belly has down sized about 1/3 rd, which seems to be on track. I'm very careful around that area and I don't sleep on it trying to let it NATURALLY dissolve. I was told not to be hard on it and flatten it because my body would consume it faster. Everyday I actually take my finger on the sides and VERY GENTLY massage on it's sides to keep it's shape ......overall it's working great
Update?
Hi Megan, sorry for the late reply. last week on the april 28th, I
received my last shot.I had a total of 4 shots
1st injection 300mg in January
2nd injection 300 mg February
3rd injection 100mg March &
4th injection 100mg last week....I am feeling great. During the whole process i've been pretty much leveled. Constipation comes and goes a little. I've not had the slightest withdrawal feeling ever. Sometimes i work in a controlled 32 degree environment, so trust me the slightest withdrawal, i will definitely notice. I honestly believe that I didn't need to get my 3rd and 4th shots. But i wanted to complete the 4 month process to give insight to others. I would say that I gained weight. my appetite definitely got bigger but that could have been avoided. Other than that i would say my sublicade adventure went very smoothly. I will be back on our comment feed in a few weeks, or earlier if you request.. hope this helps. Take care@@meganbessenbacher7107 @Syed Mehdi Shah
I TRIED TO TAG YOU IN OTHER COMMENT >>>sorry for the late reply. last week on the april 28th, I
received my last shot.I had a total of 4 shots
1st injection 300mg in January
2nd injection 300 mg February
3rd injection 100mg March &
4th injection 100mg last week....I am feeling great. During the whole process i've been pretty much leveled. Constipation comes and goes a little. I've not had the slightest withdrawal feeling ever. Sometimes i work in a controlled 32 degree environment, so trust me the slightest withdrawal, i will definitely notice. I honestly believe that I didn't need to get my 3rd and 4th shots. But i wanted to complete the 4 month process to give insight to others. I would say that I gained weight. my appetite definitely got bigger but that could have been avoided. Other than that i would say my sublicade adventure went very smoothly. I will be back on our comment feed in a few weeks, or earlier if you request.. hope this helps. Take care
I have been taking suboxone for 6 years, it works ,but I'm just getting tired of putting it in my mouth, hate the taste! I'm 56 years old and I'm just burned out on it all, I would just love to be able to be free from it all, I've asked my doctor if I could switch off of the suboxone to the vivatral shot, I don't have cravings whatsoever for any drugs, it's just the feelings of being (sick) withdrawal off sunoxone that I don't want to go thru, I'm not strong enough to just quit on my own, thank you for this video and all you guys for telling how you've kicked it all since they got the shots,
you sound like a very caring doc I'm in Australia and I wish my doctor was half as caring about my wellbeing. good on you doc.
I'm on my 8th 300mg shot. I love it. Best thing to ever happen to me. It literally satisfied all my cravings. I was a huge binge drinker before starting Sublocade. I'm 8 months sober from everything but weesd. I love it it's great, I recommend it..
Wait. They give sublocade too drinkers? And weed is not a drug. It alters our mind for the better if used properly and not constantly smoking all day. And it won't kill you.. ever.. lol Your clean and sober still as I smoke delta 8 and dabble with psychedelics too be my own lab rat hoping too find something that actually may be a curre for all addiction such as psilocybin mushrooms and lsd (both fungi psychedelics). Just because a cure hasn't been discovered, don't mean it's not out there. And I'm really starting too wonder if that's the soul purpose of mushrooms and lsd being a schedule I drug with heroin. Hmmmmmm.
@@Son-Of-David1990 no Im on Sublocade for my heroin addiction. As a bonus to stop shooting dope several times a day I was able to give up alcohol also. It works for me and I'm greatful.
Why so many 300mg shots?
@@ryanlukz3261 I'm still doing 300 mg a month. I tried the 100 and hated it and supplemented with 8 mg strip for 2 month. It didn't work very well for me at all. I'm back on 300 mg and all is well. You can be on either 100 or 300 its ur choice.
I still do 300mg every shot also. It’s really up to you when you wanna start weaning down or if u even want too.
Enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing. On my second shot. 300mg. It's much better than the oral medication. I am very grateful for a different avenue of treatment.
Also wanted to add that I'm glad to report a year of sobriety as of May 1st. So I'm 1 year 3 months sober today.
I have been wanting off of opioids for 10 years now .. and Sublocade has been the answer! I took two 300MG SHOTS for the 1st two months and then switched to 100mg for the past three months! Now I'm waiting a an extra 2 weeks for my 4th shot of 100mg! I'm confident in being able to get off now!
Hey what insurance do you have if you mind I ask
@@WABCRUSHER1 state funded insurance
You will!!!
@@richardnyc143 absolutely correct. I had offset my 4th shot by 2weeks and my 5th and last shot was offset by 3 weeks. I am just about 3 months off sublocade now and I can't believe how easy it the transition is going. I say transition because the sublocade is still detectable (and active)in the system for 6 months to a year. I couldn't be happier
congrats!
Thank you for caring enough about ppl like us to inform us. I’m on second injection currently.
Wow. 16-24 mg of sub seems like a lot. I wasnt a too heavy user though was daily on 30mg oxy. I was on 2mg suboxone for 6 yrs. went through 3 months of horrible withdrawals and now clean for 5 yrs
Came off Suboxone at 16 mg . Only T1 to hold my Bowels from not bowl explosion
Felt like ripping my face off at times .
Unfortunately I turned to Straight Vodka Some days to cope .
I couldn't care how much someone pissed me I
I could not wish it on them .
2 days my legs vibrated and the pain is just different . I was exhausted but could not find sleep .
Chopping my legs off was a consideration . Unfortunately not an option.
I hear ya to hell with suboxone shit is horrible on your body
It’s weird. I know people who took heroin and were able to maintain with 8 mg and got to 4 rather quickly, then I know little women who only took Vicodin and are taking 16 mg daily. I stayed in that 2-4mg range as well
PLEASE PEOPLE PLEASE, if you really want to be helpful, please say how much suboxone and how long you were on before the sublocade shot that you went on and how milligrams you started out with on each sublocade shot. THAT WOULD HELP US ALL. This is a common trend in the questions. People are asking questions and I don’t see a whole lot of people responding to the questions. THANK YOU
Mate, all the way from Tasmania Australia I thank you for the great information you provided. My doctors and drug counselor don't know nothing about this new injection. I thank you again because info like this is hard to come by easily here in my very small state🙂👍
Thank you. I wish I could run off and hide there!
@@DrBAddictionRecovery tour welcome to come visit anytime mate. Australia needs more people like you mate 👍
I am using sublocade and really like it. I don't have to take it everyday. Thank you
I don't like your baIIs..
So i was on suboxone for about a year switched to sublocade got about 5 shots, and now ive been of it completely for 6 months now. Fantastic. One question and concern i have though is, im extremely skinny and not sure if that has anything to do with it but basically I still have all 5 lumps from the injection sites still, not painful but very Hard and the surrounding area of my lower abdomen muscles have felt very weak ever since then and show 0 signs of going away, getting better and I can only hope this is an over active imagination but even slowly getting worse, and im wondering if anyones had this or any similar issues with the injection sites after being off of it or even while still on it. I wish everyone nothing but strength on their journey. It does get better.
Helloooo Dr. B it’s your fan Gianna Frigerio from Rutherford, N.J.
I’m sure you’ll remember me. I always watch the videos and they’re ALWAYS GOOD!!
It would be really really nice if you could get on tv someday. Okay then, waiting for other videos.
Hope all’s well have a nice day 😊
Thank you for this exceptional period of instruction.
Hi Doc....im Chris I'm an addict from Tennessee. I'm in MAT program through Vanderbilt. Very good supportive program. They offered if I wanted the shot. I've heard lots of people say coming off completely (when ready of course) is easiest through the shot and their bodies don't notice the sudden stop of. Can you please elaborate on that because my year is coming up and I don't want to be on Suboxone another 4 yrs like last time. I'm mentally ready and really just want to feel completely clean and pure with nothing. Thank you
Get it!!!!!!! Read my post up above and my comment I'm on my 10 th day after my 1st shot I'm feeling great. Been on subs for almost a year. Over taking them aswell actually. Trust me buddy please get the shot
I used to be in the Vanderbilt program about 5 years ago for years…had my baby girl on suboxone through their program and continued on with dr.fin…I ended up at pathways in Madison and got the shot there at the beginning of this year. I’m 3 months out from my last shot, and though I’ve had a few weeks of more fatigue and sleep, it’s been a GOD SEND! If you still haven’t pulled the trigger, do it!
Sublicade is the only way to go . It’s been 22 months since my last shot my levels are now undetectable
Tell me about the withdrawals you experienced?
I am on 6MG Daily 3x a day, I’m going on the 100 MG shot, I’m super sensitive to medication. MAT meds. I’m excited,
Good luck
I am scared of what im up against. There is almost no info to educate how to stop and what to expect. I decided to stop. Last month was my last injection.
Whats up?? Did you make it? How are you right now?
Stronger Together, did you stop the Sublicade?? How do you feel? Did you have withdrawals? I’m stuck on Suboxone and desperate for solutions! I hope you’re OK. Any advice? PLEASE
I’m on my second shot of sublocade I love it
Doctor, You must have a Video about Sublocade Injections, because I was seriously injured by a Sublocade injection in my Navel Cavity and almost died. She injected it in my Navel where I had an Umbilical Hernia also...I contracted massive Pulsitile Tinnitus and Stenosis of my brain vessels. It is a seriously dangerous drug.
Excellent information, i just took my first shot a week ago of 300mg and i feel great, not going to lie it did hurt like hell for about 3-5 min (more like a burning sensation) but its very barable i promise you. Im honestly just a cry baby and hate needles lol but other than that i feel amazing and i recommend this to anyone and everyone, and plus I've personally talked to about 6 other people who have been on it before and are completely off it now and they said they had absolutely NO WITHDRAWLS AT ALL and so for me personally that was one of the main reasons for me getting on it in the first place, but like i said its only been a week but so far so absolutely good and from what I've heard from people on a personal level they loved it too and so if your thinking about it I SAY GIVE IT A SHOT WHAT YOU GOT TO LOSE. Best of luck to all of you that are fighting this opiate addiction out there and if u have any questions for me please please feel free to leave me a message anytime on her just to get some feed back on how its going and i will surely get a notification and message you back immediately I PROMISE. GOD BLESS
I just got mine and I have a bruise and it gets all hard under the skin
How are you both feeling on it now that it's been a lil while
@@HottyTotty its going on my 3rd month and i feel great, best decision i ever made
i hope i can just take a 100mg shot and then never look back again. im down to .5mg twice a day and im getting close to being ready to stop everything but im hopeing this method will be easier to do it. just take one shot and and let the medication slowly get out of my system from there. and hopefully not have to much withdrawl
Nick Essex how you feel a yeat later ?
Ive been under a psychiatrists carenthrough the VA for almost 4 years now and they offered me the Sublocade shit today. Thankfully my doctor was just like you. He told me that it would work best when I have a better grip on my stressers and dont think of opiates as a way to deal with stress. So, for now, im still on the Suboxone sublingual tablets. I havent relapsed during my 3 years and 9 months of treatment, but ive had moments where I almost caved because of stress, so I wont do the shot just yet. I will be entering a DBT therapy group soon to learn mkre coping skills so hopefully things will keep coming.together. i really want this time to work. I appreciate this video.
Subucade also prevents problems with teeth(tooth decay) that the strips do cause for many
Do you suffer withdrawals Dr B? Ive took this Suboxone for about 15 plus yrs and I'm so ready to get off this! Should I take this shot! Does the shot work same as tablets do? Ohh,
I need a change I'm just sick of pills period! Thank you Dr, B GOD BLESS YOU ✝️🙏
There are very minor to no withdrawals coming off the shot. Two 300 mg shots and 3 100 mg shots is a good way to go for getting off bupe for good
I received the Sublocade about 12 hours ago. It did kind of hurt like a bitch for 30-60 seconds then just kinda hurt for a few mins and now it's just a bit sore. My Doctor did offer me Motrin but I had some in my bag. I would say in less than five minutes I was able to get up off the table and be comfortable enough to sit up and talk or to leave the room. I feel different... idk how to describe it, not a high, maybe a bit of a buzz.
I am really concerned about my testosterone level, do I bring that up with my Sublocade provider or my primary care?
How did u feel 1 day? 5days? 10 days afterwards?
Methadone kill my testerone level it went down to 47 ..18 years in Methadone i need to know if subuclode can work whit Methadone.
@@jmr6117 No you cannot take Methadone and Suboxone/Sublocade at the same time. You have to detox off methadone for like at least a week before beginning Suboxone.
@@jmr6117 that's the exact reason that I got off of methadone it absolutely killed my libido.
Good stuff but you missed the best reason to go with sublocade over suboxone. NO WITHDRAWALS. For the first time ever we have a royal road off of opiates. Yes, i know your supposee to taper down and come off the subs with minimal withdrawal. this is fantasy. the taper down process sucks. then coming off sucks. infact if you cold turkey without a taper the withdrawal is much worse than straight opaite withdrawal. iv seen the taper process work and get people off opiates withdrawal maybe twice out out hundreds. Coming off sublocade was a breeze. i couldnt believe it when they told me it was out of my system
the shot can hurt a little bit but you want to get licocane to rub on your stomach before hand. just ask your doc for it. i didnt have the licocane when i went thru the process but i hear it helps. also.. you dont have to get the shot every month like they say. the 10 mg hurts and after 60 days i still had the same levels as i had after one week. so i would go and get the shot every other month and my levels were the exact same as the people getting the shot every month. So if the shot hurts you.... just get it every other month. that seems to be fine with levels of bup in your system and u only have to get half the amount of shots that sting a little.
its actaully harder to keep the sublocade shot hidden cuz of the bump on your stomach. just putting something under your tonge is easy. hiding a big bump under your skin is hard.
being ablke to dose yourself is not necessarily a good thing mentally. maybe if they like the taste or the routine, thats OK. but you dont want someone using the subs for anxiety control or something. which seems to happen a lot w sublingual tabs. someone gets a llitte chill down there spine and thinks they need to take a sub to be ok. When in actuality its just a normal biorhythm throughout the day or a situation that would be anxiety inducing for a normal person. the Suboxone user can take more Suboxone during that time. its gives them bad habits and a focus on ingesting a chemical to be confortable when your going to have to eventually deal with that situation and those feeling without the suboxone. when you have the sublocade shot in you, you just think " OK this isnt withdrawal or post accuate withdrawal. this is a normal semi unconfortable experience that im just going to have to get through.
hey so when was your last shot and are you clean now???
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@@ethancowart6765 around 2 years ago.... yes still clean...
@@jonjethro2278 why all the periods ? the periods worry me?
@@ethancowart6765 lol idk i just do that sometimes
This helped me a lot to make my decision. I'm not sure if I want to switch to this. I was worried that it might be less effective in the last few days of the dose
Did you end up getting the injection?
I wonder if this same technology would be able to work with full agonist opioids that'd be awesome and doctors wouldn't have to worry about diversion or patients abusing their meds
The weaning off worked for years, same thing
I'm so ready to make this jump, been doing a lot of research on reddit and elsewhere to help determine my willpower with this.
I find the dosing ritual to be comforting but I'm pretty sure that's my addict brain, not really a positive.
It would be helpful for people like me who feel that need to place a sub, to be able to take a dummy strip in place of the real one, to kinda keep that ritual but able to break it easier without wds, or pwd.
Sometimes it's really just the act of placing it and dissolving it as we do our daily routines that's needed, while the injection works in the background.. hopefully that makes sense, it's been a long day for me so the right words aren't coming to me as they normally would.. lol
Just a thought on what could help people who really need that sub ritual while tapering off on the Subutex!
I think I’d prefer to stay on the strips. Personally I don’t like the idea of not being in control of how much buprenorphine is released in my body on a day to day basis. Because some days I take less than other days. Some days I have to let the buprenorphine clear out of my system for 12 hours to a day before taking more or my brain will just get tired of being on it nonstop, and also so I’m not tired 24/7. Taking less some days can also help me with tapering down on my own.
Thank you for the information very helpful
Late but my experience, 8 freaking years on Suboxen, yes eight I was addicted! Was told to try sublocade, took sublocade. Utterly hated it, made me feel lazy and tired all day, I was so miserable I was able to just not take a dam thing after it wore off. It’s been eight months and I’m glad I happen to be what seems like a small portion that does not do well with Sublocade. I am so happy to be away from that entire addiction. Honestly think Suboxone clinics are just dealers getting ppl hooked on
I was on the shot for 9mths… they left me on 300mg and I’ve been having on and off withdrawal for over a year now. It’s still in my system and I’m honestly just waiting for this nightmare to be over. I do have mental health disorders and that’s what’s mainly being amped up… not sure if that’s why it’s been such a struggle but people should know it’s not a smooth ride for everyone. I’ve been on vivitrol, suboxone, subutex and then sublocade.
I hope you're right. I've been on 2 pills of 8mg a day since 2010. I cry inside, and sometimes out, every time I take it. I'm SO DONE with it. SO DONE. I'm going to try what you said. I hope it works. I want off it ALL. And it seems this is the way to do it??!
Just got my first 300mg shot today. Been on 8mg strips/pills for 10+ years. Hoping for the best!
I'm getting my first shot in a few weeks. How is it going so far? Any downside/withdrawal?
how are you doing today?
@@johnlombardo7816 Great! Been on sublocade for 6+ months now and has deff been the best thing for my recovery!
@richards8438 thanks. Just found out my insurance covers. Next step talk to doc about it in about 2 weeks.. how much suboxone did you need to be taking to take it? I'm down to 1/2 to 3/4 of a 1.4 MG zubsolv(generic) .. seems I may need to up it a bit
@@richards8438 oh and congrats!
This Doctor is great, he's a surfer.
Hey Papa Doc, Sam Afgan here. Had to change my name because my account was erased under my original name because I made a video about how the Moderna Vaccine gave me severe myocarditis and even believe it or not left ventricular problems my c reactive protein was over 8 from the shots. Anyways to the point of this video I’m actually finally getting off the suboxone now with almost no withdrawals because I took months to study and find the best compounds to help get off the opioids. Here are the magical compounds to significantly help get off opioids that most people don’t even know about. First “Memantine” which is one of the most proper NMDA antagonists like DXM or ketamine but it doesn’t cause psychoactive effects like those compounds and has a longer half life. In Iran there’s tons of studies on this and they actually use memantine or dxm in their methadone clinics they give patients one of these nmda antagonists along with their methadone or suboxone and it prevents them from developing a tolerance so they can stay on lower doses. Next injections of Cerebrolysin and Cortexin these are peptides from porcine sources which basically means it’s peptides extracted from pigs brains like BDNF and NGF, in America you don’t hear of these compounds because in America it’s not profitable to cure things these peptides cause massive amounts of neurogenesis like lions mane mushrooms are supposed to. If you inject and NOT IV but IM over 15ml of cerebrolysin it actually stops withdrawals so that kind of enforced my belief that one of the reasons ibogaine helps so much must be because it induces neurogenesis. Then there’s a anti inflammatory compound known as “ibudilast” another compound that helps with opioid withdrawals, lastly there is a peptide known as DSIP aka Delta Sleep Inducing Peptide there’s studies on how this peptide helps alleviate opioid withdrawals and since it is a peptide for sleep mainly i take it at night to help actually get decent sleep because that’s one of the biggest issues with coming off opioids is the insomnia and the less you sleep the crappier you feel and the slower you recover. Finally after 6 years I’m on my way to get off the suboxone. I’m one of those who believes the suboxone is harder to come off of than heroin. I guess it’s true that the longer the half life of a drug the more difficult and lengthy the withdrawals will be.
What happens if I keep rubbing the depot?
I got my shot today never thought I’d feel such a pain
How long does the pain last?
The nalaxone doesn’t even effect when taken orally as the binding affinity of bupe is higher. Great video thanks.
Can I please ask you why suboxone prescribers do NOT tell patients about Post Acute Withdrawal risks associated with coming off suboXX?? Why do doctors, generally speaking, overprescribe? You all give the average bear 16+ mgs daily when you all know very well that 1.5- 2mgs would comfortably do better than 100%? Why don't you tell patients all (ALL) the side effects??? and risks?
Just curious.
They do, and account for PAWS. At least in my experience. The doctor here has videos on it too I believe. Also, everybody has different needs. 1-2mg of Suboxone just isn't enough to keep me comfortable.
@@ImTHECarlos98 😔🙏🏻I pray that u are well, Carlos....please try not to take it for too long,,,,,,
💛
Absolutely 1.5-2mg over a 24 hour period would end up with WD by the end of the 24 hour day. Although 16mg+ does seem like a lot long term. However when you’re coming off of stronger opiates/opioids they may need more than 16mg for a short period of time before coming down.
@@ImTHECarlos98 bullshit they don't tell nobody..a nadie le dicen solo quieren joder más a uno.
@@jmr6117 but they told me? LOL
Suboxone has saved my life!❤️
Me TOO!!💜
Me too I would for sure have been dead if not for suboxone
I love it it had saved so many lives of people I know
Methadone has saved my life 😇 I've been sober for over 2 years now by the grace of God 💕 but I'm now looking into other options so I can eventually get myself off of everything 🙏🏾
@@thatspiritualgirlcierra_9115 you will feel the pain after couples years ,i can tell methadone destroy my life ,after 18 years i can't handle this no more..i need to know if subuclode work for methadone users.
I started out at three 8 mg suboxone films daily 18 months ago. I’ve tapered down to just one 8 mg film daily and will be switching to the Sublocade shot in December.
My question is, does body weight determine the amount I should be given? I’ve gained 40 lbs over the past 2 years of sobriety.
I don't think weight has anything to do with it. I wasn't weighed or asked my weight.
Agreed. The Doc will worry about that. Whether you get the 300 mg shot or the hundred milligram shot depends on how much Suboxone or Buprenorphine you are on. It has nothing to do with your weight
IF YOUR ON 8MG SUB DONT GET THE 300 MG SHOT THATS STUPIF.
I wonder, if you are stable on a low dose of Suboxone, say 2mg or 4mg of Suboxone per day, would you be able to get a Sublocade injection at a lower dose than the 300mg/month one you mentioned? Is there a shot available that is 50mg/month? If so, would you then be able to get that 50mg injection, go the 25-30 days after the injection was administered, and use that delivery method to become physically non-dependent from the medication? Logically, it sounds like that would create an environment that would provide patients to experience a much more comfortable taper process, with the end goal of being free from Suboxone or any medication assisted treatment, but I do not know if it works that way. Thank you.
Yes. New, competing medication. Just approved by the FDA called Brixadi. They have multiple different dosages available and it can be injected in sites other than the umbilical area.
Thank you for asking this question. I was wondering the same thing. I’ve tapered myself down to 2mg Suboxone a day and I’ve been looking into the shot for a while now, wondering if since I take such a low dose steady that I wouldn’t be able to get the Sublocade since it seems like so many more mgs than I’d need.
What is the process in coming off Subcloade?
I'd love to know also.
Hi Dr B, I just want to thank you for making these videos. I have been on methadone and I'm now on suboxone and tapering off, I only see a dr for my script (and he's great) but I don't have a cpn or recovery dr so you really have helped me so much. ❤ thank you 🏴
That makes me happy.
Medicated assistance therapy- he said the term isn’t used anymore but getting on sublocade just this month they did use that term! I’m not sure why he said they don’t use that term anymore because I was just in rehab the past four weeks and they were using that term. I wonder if the rehab I was at is just a bad rehab center….. it was pretty disorganized.
I thought the same thing. They def still use it
I need to switch to sublocade because suboxone is destroying my teeth one at a time. Any advice or recommendations?
Great video doc. I was offered this, and considered it being that suboxone taste like rat piss 🤣 . I decided against it for no other reason than I hate needles. Suboxone does taste horrible, unless it's the strips, but my doctor tells me insurance won't pay for the same.
I do have a question. What if you're in a car wreck or need surgery and require opiods for pain in a hospital setting? Is there a way around this, and do you need to wear a bracelet or have some form of info that tells first responders you have this gel / medication in hour body?
Thanks again doc for all you do in warm reduction. The gold standard. 💘
@Wille They are supposed to be flavored, but that's a huge stretch. They taste horrible. Just aweful..
Oh if you have to have surgery and you’re on sub then your are just up a shyt creek without a paddle! I have Graves disease and had a thyroidectomy. My surgery was 5-6 hours longer than most because my thyroid goiter had grown backwards and intertwined in my spine somehow? Anyway, a normal thyroidectomy isn’t supposed to hurt too much I don’t think. My incision in front wasn’t bad at all. However, omg, the back of my neck hurt so bad I felt like I could’ve died! It would’ve been relief to have had isis cut my head off! That’s probably a horrible thing to say but that’s how I felt at the time. My doctor of course acted as though I was a baby but it was every bit as bad as giving birth with no epidural or pain medication. Different kind of pain but nonetheless...
So, in the hospital I was on fentanyl, Percocet and dilaudid. I truly don’t believe it even touched the pain at all. The Sub blocked any of the pain relief. Gosh it was truly horrendous.
Therefore, I am wanting so badly to get off sub because if I have a car wreck or some other surgery(I’m sick always), I don’t want to ever endure that type of agonizing pain again! It’s pure he11!
Just informing you since you asked:) 😩😂
@@BS-dq1kz o nooooo... dam. Crazy
@@BS-dq1kz well… that’s good to know.
From what I've heard it requires high doses a very lipophilic opioids such as fentanyl and dilaudid to be able to knock the buprenorphine off of the receptor site.
What is the cost and is it covered by insurance/medicare?
Since being on sublocade it stopped my period completely. I just saw a comment on another page and the girl had the same as me and I was relieved because I get no answers.
Does sublocade have the same efficacy in pain relief that sublingual buprenorphine does? I'm always interested in learning about different treatments. Thanks!
ClinicAlly, appears to be the case
Suboxone doesn't help with pain only 5%
@@leecarcana1287 Suboxone has a somewhat less analgesic effect because of the naloxone than Subutex but not by much. Buprenorphine is 25-100 times more potent than morphine. It has a different make up than other opioids and like Dr B has said is the Ferrari of pain meds. For me the longer half life is the life saver. It stays withdrawal for up to 72 hours but the analgesic properties last at least 12 hours with a super fast onset of relief. I'm so glad so much research is coming out on it's benefits as a stand alone pain medication. It would be nice for chronic pain patients to be able to use it without the stigma.
@@leecarcana1287 if you're not an addict & don't have a tolerance I'm sure it can. Buprenorphine is very strong, the formulations of buprenorphine for pain are only .3mg (buprenex & temgesic).
That's demonstrably false. Studies show buprenorphine analgesia has no ceiling effect like respiratory depression and, if anything, provides more analgesia than morphine.
If I’m on 2 mg I want to get the shot would I be able to get the 100 mg shot ?
well done explaining!!!!
You cannot give patients 8mg if on sublucade it's too much,the deposit is still there
when stopping sublocade is there a way to reduce withdrawl symptom
Is there???
Every where that I’ve read about this shot states that there is little to no withdrawal because its deposited slowly over time.. not really sure how to explain it
there is basically no withdrawal
Shouldn’t be any withdrawl due to the extremely long half life of 45-60 days per shot.
@@kickinaddiction There sure is. Especially after a long high dose dependence.
It works great, but your primary care addiction physician can give you sublingual tablets to go along with it for breakthrough
Suboxone strips have worked well for me. 5 years clean thanks to subs
Been on sublicade for almost a year its going great 👍
plz ans doc
i have shooted bupronorphine tab intravenous 5,7 times only is it harmful
now i quitted this
can this will harm in future
I have been on Sublocade for two years now, and I absolutely love it. Works much better for me than the sublingual products, and I never have to think about it or have narcotics in my possession which is great. I would just suggest that everyone use an ice pack on the injection site for at least 10 minutes prior to injection, as it is painful. Another thing is I'm maintained on 300mg, as the 100mg dose wasn't enough, and I was experiencing withdrawal symptoms.
Really I stopped taking it after one dose, 300mg and never got it again. I feel fine it’s been months.
@@CB-lv1ws still feel okay? Thinking about this route to get off suboxone but I’m on 1.5-2mg a day so would maybe need to go my dose or take the 100mg. I want to get the least ammount of shots possible I can
@@CB-lv1ws how are u now?
@@jaydens2756 I think they want you on 300 at first anyway. So that means you have to go up to eight and at least every day before you even go that route.
@@leecarcana1287 I’m still sober and I feel amazing. Best thing that ever happen to me. I have ZERO cravings.
thank you doc for explaining in Lehmans terms and not all jargon-e
Doc what if you are in a painful accident and need narcotic analgesics? This is also the issue I have with the pill form of buprenorphine since the buprenorphine itself is such a strong antagonist at the receptor, I could only imagine what the shot would do to it, I no I'm paranoid but is this an issue you see alot with your buprenorphine patients....?
High doses of a very lipophilic opioid such as fentanyl and dilaudid is what I've been told by my doctor along with other drugs such as ketamine. My brother compound fractured his leg while on Suboxone so I'm speaking from his experience.
So I take 8mg BID. Starting with 300mg injection. I’m worried about how the 30g will affect me. I’m worried that it’s going to be too much. I’m in the working world now lol… I can’t look high…
My experience is unique. It started out normal and😊 one episode I couldn't hold a conversation. I had learned new task at my job on Friday and got high over the weekend and would forget the new learned information. It got to the point I had to take 4 Xanax bars or klonopins to handle the meth.
Does anyone have any advice for me? Today I went in to get my first injection. I want to go on it for many reason. I've been on films for almost 5 years. I'm ready to come off and I've been told the injection is a great way to come off. But today I had a panic attack and I changed my mind. My pain tolerance has gone down extremely low since becoming an opiate addict. I'm afraid of how badly it hurts. But I am also afraid of how I will do mentally. I cant just take something if I start to feel sick. I really do want to go on this injection but these two things are holding me back. They said they will hold the sublocaide for me unless I decide I really don't want it.
When you did dope did you get that worried ? Isn’t 2 mins of pain worth not having to worry about it anymore ? Get the shot. It’s the best thing I ever did
Thank you Dr B I’ve only just heard today this is an option for me
I highly been thinking about switching to the shot and been on the oral Subutex for close to ten years and was thinking back when I was getting it off the street and trying to get off or wien down myself and there was times when I couldn't find anything for days or week at a time and would be sick and couldn't move but as soon as I seen the subs I had relief just seeing it and realized alot of how I felt was in my mind! I know a few friends who have done the shot had had no withdrawals and for me I believe not having to wake up everyday and take a pill to start your day would help mentally to make you maybe think your not on it or as focused on taking something just to function 🤔 my doctor said I can try it and if I absolutely don't like it or it don't work that I can always go back on the pills which was comforting!
Can you try the shot if you haven’t tried suboxine yet and if u mind or get this what insurance do you have??
I have a question, I’m getting the Sublocade shot in 8 days. I have been on Suboxone 12yrs. I am looking at getting a few surgeries , now how would that work?
Actually, myself included, I know people, as you said, that the dosing every day is part of recovery. We don't like the idea of taking something even once a day. I break mine up to four times a day. One, it helps with pain, the reason I started opioids in the first place. Second, looking forward to having something to take is calming. I don't know why. We all seem to think it works for us. I take 16mg in 24 hour period. Basically, the way my friends and I have described it, is that when you're used to taking pills every few hours, for years and years, it just helps to do it this way.
My counselor says that you’re not supposed to use it as a reward. It helps to keep that brain circuit alive that helped make us addicts in the first place. I suppose that’s if you want to eventually come off of bupe one day. But if you want to stay on it indefinitely who cares I guess.
@@EdwardRatliff as time goes by, you take it further and further apart. But I was also told to break mine up for pain, as well. The first reason I got addicted in the first place.
I know exactly what you're saying I take 1mg 4 times a day but after so many years I really feel it's completely numbing me anymore so considering the injection
This is the exact reason that I got on the shot in the first place because not having to take pills every day makes me feel like a normal person but that's just me
@@mkp3824agree
Is this being used for chronic pain?
What if im only on 4mg Suboxone, can i still do the sublocade shot?
I have a question @Dr. B Addiction Recovery, I have been on 2 6mg strips (more when I overtook) for 6 yrs. I have had 3 300mg shots of Sublocade and I always felt like I was in withdrawal later in the evening on suboxone like I wasnt at the right level. Since I have been on Sublocade I feel "normal" having my shot and taking 1 strip a day. I feel like Im not getting the correct levels either way and its leaving me craving and over taking. I dont know how to explain to my Dr. I really want to take the shot. I feel like I have an issue also not taking something each day. What can I do. Why am I feeling like this? Thanks Dr.
I've been on strictly Suboxone and I lay Suboxone (no psych meds, gabapentin etc) for three years now and I'm considering but worried about days 25-30.
Did you get it?
I’ve been on this drug for 4 years now 300mg I need someone to talk to that’s in a similar situation will I ever be allowed to come off or am I on it for the rest of my life
Quick question: This is in regard to the Alvogen brand, I’ve been feeling sick from taking it and one day it fell in water and the strip dissolved but the white #8s did not so I tried taking the strips cutting out the 8s and I feel much better. Anyone else have a similar experience? Are those white 8s toxic?
Yes! Whatever is in those numbers gives me horrible sharp pains and I just fart and burp all day. I switched too Dr. Reddys and it's better
@@Son-Of-David1990 dr. reddys doesn't work as well as name brand suboxone for me. haven't had any issue with alvogen either.
everyone's chemistry is different though. getting the sublocade shot tomorrow (hopefully). I'm stoked to not have to mess with these dang strips everyday.
You cannot eat or drink anything for the first 15 mins when taking it
Finally someone else notices. I found out the same thing and began ripping out all the numbers and felt a lot better too and have been doing it ever since
It's in your mind
I went to detox for 11 days got the Sublocade injection 300mg 10 days ago from 9 years of being on methadone and 23 yrs on and and off heroin I'm still withdrawing trying not to use Suboxone if I don't use the Suboxone I'll end up using heroin and I can still feel and taste it if I have nothing Im still feeling unwell. Whole point of me getting on Sublocade was not having to take something everyday just to feel like a "normal" person whatever the hell that's meant to mean. I feel like such a failure and I'm really disappointed and hating myself ATM I really wanted to be clean.
Yoo finally somebody answer my question i am in methadone for 18 years 37 mm right now ,and my Dr offer me this shit ,but i am a little be you know thinking about it,cuz i don't want to feel sick again like you say.how you feel 6 months later ? I hope you are doing ok !
Hey Nixao don't be so hard on yourself man be thankful your in the mind state you wanna be clean. I'm withdrawaling of herion 4 days wanna die, but fuck it I'll give it one more try to clean up with this sublocade. Best wishes for you man
@@jmr6117 I'm still using still getting the injections to I have good days and bad days. If you can get into a detox and do it it's worth it. I was doing good but kinda fucked up . I like not going to get a dose everyday.
@@trishyschori4510 thanks I'm thinking of just going into detox and get off everything. Atm not in a good place
@@nixao8997 yeah man me too after the herion done I gotta find a way of the meth pills. I've detoxed a few times it gets harder the older you get man it's brutal. Gotta be on strong stubborn mf to kick and stay clean.
For everybody out there that's deciding to get on the shot like me.. the sooner the better because I'm telling you all the stuff out there now is cut with poison I have never seen a 46 year old to be so unhealthy in my life it just seems to be one thing after another and if I'm lucky I'll get out of this without a major illness that kills me get off as soon as you can your life depends on it
Best medicine ever to save a life
What about chronic pain patients? Im on Suboxone 12y, now going to this?
Any thoughts on psychedelics being looked into for treatment or a possible cure for addiction? Such as psilocybin mushrooms, LSD, DMT, ayahuasca etc. I mean these are drugs that induce feelings, not hide them away. So your forced too feel and see the world for what it is and see who we truly are. Idk about anyone else but I've come too some heavy realizations the past 7 times I did 150 micrograms of lsd within the last year, and I've been clean and sober for 2 years on 24 mg of suboxone a day, and instantly felt fine dropping very low mg very quickly from 24 mg a day too 4 mg a day withing a month of tripping balls and microdosing. Could go 1 of 2 ways. It could be a possible treatment option or 2. maybe this will cure it and come as a threat too the pharmaceutical companies and will shut it down lol
I used to take 140-200ug of LSD now and then when I was around 16-17 and now I have HPPD even though I would never do it all the time. Be careful. Now some days l just sit there and all of a sudden see white orbs raining from the sky and start tripping for a few minutes then it immediately goes away.
Talking about a threat to Big Pharma! Look up Dr. Stanislaus Burznsky and his cure for every single type of cancer!
Microdosing is definitely the way of the future, and i think any personal exploration is worthwhile
but I worry anytime people suggest alternatives to MATs because of the stigma associated with them. There are still so many people pushing abstinence only and 12 step programs for opioid dependence disorder...which we all know is not logical.
So we should always double down on the rhetoric that medication assisted treatment is a positive :)
I had this done. It was awful. But I get the worse effects of subs.
I am supposed to get the shot tomorrow and I am hoping and thinking that I can just take one 100mg shot and be done with buprenorphine entirely!
Did it work? I am on about 6MG and they will only give 100 mg
Update please
Dude 20mg of bupe is so high. Never had the shot but couldn’t imagine 4mg film on top of the shot.
Can anyone answer me what happens if I take a 300mg shot and quit after that?? Is it possible and what would I feel
Thank you for creating and uploading this very informative video
Ive had 4 injections and at each location I have a hard nodule and bruise that is not going away. Can you tell me what this is????