@@calholli yes and no, there's actually a pretty big following for awd drifting in Australia you just need little weight and high power along with no traction control which was probably on in this video
I'm a hard-core car guy so obviously I watch a lot of car stuff. I also watch reviews that are more into details. But I like that you guys are doing your style car videos. A break from the norm. I would have a hard time buying this too with markup but can appreciate what it is for sure.
Now they are becoming more readily available at MSRP, at least in my area. Blue Flame circuits seem to be a bit more rare and I am picking mine up this weekend with a small markup (~2k) but I''ve been waiting since the car was announced to get one so I'm more than happy with that. Core's and Premiums in my area seem to listed with little to no markup though, and those with markups seem to not be selling.
Watching Linus basically reviewing a car is the weirdest thing to me. It's like when you have two VERY different friend groups who suddenly meet each other and you're not sure how you're supposed to act or even feel about the situation😂
@@Seffyrthat kinda feels more natural though, he’s a car guy at heart too and it just so happens that there’s a surprising amount of overlap between the two groups
linus just never had the expendable income to be a "car guy" so it was off his radar. now that he is in a different place financially he is branching out and knows he doesn't have to justify having a car "Just for fun" He's always been into motorcycles which is basically car guy adjacent but motorcycles cost much less.
Ok I just picked up mine today... at MSRP, used but practically new at 300 miles. Apparently the first owner got it, got buyer's remorse and traded in for a rav4. God bless him, I'm having a heck of a time. It's a white loaded core model, has basically everything I could ask for, plus extended comprehensive warranty.
Don't fret, like the Golf R, it seems the GR can get crazy power with mods. If it was available for MSRP when I got my Kona N, I would have gone with the GR.
As a car guy, the saying of “it’s more fun to drive a slow car faster than a fast car slow” rains true especially with Toyota GR lineup. They are absolutely phenomenal vehicles, considering what you get
They are ok, but not for 55k. I used to own an Evo8, Evo10 and a few WRXs and those were priced appropriately. M3P is way better for that kind of money. 11.5 1/4 mile and still a blast in the corners. Not so fast it's scary/you get yourself into trouble like the Plaid, but fast enough to have fun. If you want a similar experience, just get a WRX or Golf R and save your money.
Markets are flooded with empty money that people didn't earn. At catalogue retail price the demand is higher than the supply, so the price increases. If prices are law restricted, you end up with no cars to buy at all, 2 year queues or full package variants only available. There's no way around the market laws, which is what we all should already know after the pandemic period.
with as busted as the car market is and as dealerships are in particular I don't see why anyone would willingly buy a new car at this point. Even the used car market is messed up, but it's nowhere near as bad.
I love seeing car content from LTT. I doubt you can justify doing very many videos like this on the main channel but I think a car channel could really fly. Linus Torque Tips.
We need more car reviews like this, it covers a perspective that most other car reviewers don’t have. Also both Linus and Alex seem to enjoy doing this kind of thing.
I always find new perspectives on car reviews interesting. It's interesting to see techies talk about cars, because they focus more on experience than typical car specs
I am a car enthusiast probably more than a tech enthusiast, and this is the first car video you've done that I like. The editing, structure, inclusion of Linus, it all works. More of this please.
Yes, except the lack of knowledge about turbos lmao. 25psi is NOT a concerning amount of boost when the OEM built it that way. If it came stock with 15psi and was tuned on 25psi later it would be more of a concern 🤷♂
as a car enthusiast, i just dont get the script. If you want light manual hot car and you dailydrive taycan - simply get cayman gts. I understand toyota paid for this video, so create script we can believe in.
@@Fertro exactly my point, its about turbo sizing.. if the turbo is small enough it wont cause lag but will need more PSI in the top end to still make power. this is common knowledge among us tuners.. a simple google search would explain it; but to him it was concerning.. that is funny to me lol
Just gotta say as a car enthusiast, I really appreciate this video. Your car reviews are a lot better than most other tech focused channels, and it's pretty clear Alex is a big car guy with a lot of knowledge. More of this please!
@@Shaurya_Pant And his scene in the engine bay wasn't really that good. He said there is a 3 cylinder engine and that the intake has a flap on it. Perhaps a more appropriate engine bay explanation would have gone over: More details about the engine, torque, hp, displacement, curve, materials and how does this engine differ from a standard model. Gone over the intake system a bit more, is it naturally aspirated, turbo, compressor? And just in general actually go over things. He just pointed out that there is an engine and it gets air from a hole. Amazing.
@@Bruno-cb5gk I agree with you, @ASDASD34RDFS I sympathize, if I wasn't already familiar with those points of interest, I would definitely want to know, since I'm a car enthusiast, but you have to consider, how many of the nerds watching this are going to understand any of that?
@@ASDASD34RDFS You mean, fluff... that most of us that aren't car geeks... Care about? Some of us, just want a car that feels good without knowing every little bit of detail about it.
This is the reason why I still keep my 1998 Ford Escort ZX2. It has a feeling of connectedness to the road that newer cars just can't emulate. A feeling of solidness and mass, yet being extremely nimble and quick. Being able to feel the engine deliver all of its 130 horses in a short-ratio gearbox, without the police down your back. That is what makes driving fun. Being one with the machine, not just riding inside of it.
Alex very quickly became my favorite member of the entire LTT crew, even when im not interested in a video, if Alex is involved, its bound to be entertaining and/or informative so i will watch it regardless and i havent been disappointed a single time
Guess just different views. Alex is always in the videos with the most interesting topics to me but he always ends up annoying the hell out of me for some reason tbh
Last auto show I went to Toyota was really the one big disappointment I saw. Admittedly I'm taller than Alex but the interior space in any of their cars I sat in was very disappointing and not particularly comfortable for me.
@@kylepmore2842 If anything Throttle House is already Top Gear Canada. Their editing and production quality is unmatched in the automotive TH-cam space.
GR is kinda weird, though. Toyota should have kept the *TRD* branding for ALL their performance cars (think TRD Celica, the TRD rallying Corollas, or the JGTC Supra era) since it has so much more history and weight, instead of creating this weird new brand and locking TRD to their pavement princess trucks…
The thing that is fun about cars in the 250-350 horse power range, is that they feel quick, but they're just slow enough where you can push them to their limits without actually going super fast and endangering yourself
As a car guy who's into tech myself, its so refreshing to see a perspective from LTT towards cars! would be so unique to see Linus & Team to dive into these automotive segment in a tech perspective!
As an owner of a manual '16 golf r, I disagree. I don't think he would like the newest gen golf r. The information is trash. I think he, like most people, would prefer the mk7 or 7.5
As an Mk6 owner, a golf R does scratch all the performance + practicality itches. Tech, however, seems to have been an afterthought; even for ten years ago.
@@ThroughFallenEyes As an owner of a mk7.5, I would agree. Prices of the mk8 are crazy (a dealer near by called me wanting to sell me one for $69,000 CAD). That said the used Golf R market is crazy right now, the same dealer wanted to buy my car for $30,000 with 120,000km on it (and you can be sure they'll turn around and try to sell it for 40-45k).
I really like the discussion about buyers experience in this video, giving people an idea of the pain points of trying to purchase the thing on review is such a consumer friendly move and I hope it continues. Neat little car and looks a lot of fun to drive, but probably one of those you'd want to wait for a refresh on to get the previous years model at a discount imo, to save having to suffer the obnoxious dealership bollocks and get the car in a more timely manner.
The shady dealer practices that are happening all around the world at the moment is insane, and they are getting away with it, even with consumer protection agencies.
I'd say that if you are talking about them going way over MSRP i can't agree. I do agree that it's both a bad thing and extremely damaging to both brands and consumers. However, it's very much the flip side of us all beating them up to way under invoice for years. It sucks but it ain't shady or a surprise unfortunately. Now if you're talking switching orders, forcing products, etc i 100% agree.
Its really a shame. Unbelievable that in the "land of the free" car manufactures are LEGALLY required to sell their cars exclusively to dealers. Its an entire industry that is there for no fucking reason and its costing us all billions of dollars. That being said I have been looking at the new Prius and there are people out there finding them at MSRP. Just takes a lot of time and a little luck.
He complained about lane assist on a car, saying he was in the lane. Meanwhile the footage literally showed his tires going over the white lines on inside turns. So I can't really take him seriously after that.
Toyota is part of the "Alliance for Automotive Innovation" that put out an ad a couple years ago saying right to repair will lead to you getting sexually assaulted in a parking garage. Modern day Toyota is not pro right to repair. If you want that, get a used one.
That's the only real issue I have with EVs... they're completely locked down. It should be mandatory that after, say, 5 years their entire software platform is unlocked for third party vendors.
Alex's car knowledge is as impressive as his PC and engineering. So happy that Toyota is still building cars like this alongside the EVs. The Yaris is already a cult classic; this might end up the same for those who can't get its little brother.
I wanna know more about their sound knowledge and what exactly the EQ graph means. I don't think I've ever seen them review a product where it matches their "baseline" curve. Do these companies not test the products frequency response? Do they not tune it "properly"? Can they even do that or is it hardware dependent? Or is this baseline curve LTT always uses meaningless? I feel like it's the latter, because I highly doubt not a single sound product out of the dozens if not hundreds they've reviewed, hits it spot on, yet there are plenty of sound products that sound great.
@@pcmasterracetechgod5660 companies don't really make it so flat for obvious reasons regarding the average user, and sometimes companies don't even care much. Not being at their baseline curve or flat doesn't mean its not gonna sound good, it just would boost/lack some frequencies at certain areas, making it not as accurate as a flat sound, which isn't a big deal because it's usually not as enjoyable as a v curve or just boosted bass.
@@pcmasterracetechgod5660 real car guys rip it out and install a real sound system. LTT missed the point of the Toyota it’s a sports car and as such the sound system is a secondary thought. As some one who has done sound offs it depends on what you want, bass is easy in any car but clarity is a steep learning curve, the seats, roof lining, parcel shelf, dash etc all effect the sound moving around and manufacturers don’t care about this as it requires money to get right. Many install good components but it will always suck in one regard.
@@Lockwood360 I usually watch all LTT videos I can but I refrain from watching any of the car reviews because they don't know anything lol. It''s like they reading from a brochure and I don't blame them. There's cool tech inside and you can review it sure but as for the car review itself, well it sucks because they're not mechanics or racing drivers or at least reviewers of a lot of brands. They think teslas are cool too and that EVs are the future so that kind of nullifies their opinion a bit.
@@Lockwood360 If I recall correctly, he studied and worked as a designer for car suspension. He might not be your average carbro, but he definitely knows what he is talking about.
I appreciate the Volt as a chase vehicle. Loved that car (sold it for a Bolt). Not going back to gas, but I can accept hot hatches and other small fun cars.
I had a 2001 Suzuki swift and it was a little gem. It was so hardy I left it out in one of the worst winter storms here in the UK for a month. When the snow had all thawed the car started first time.
I was between a GR Carolla or a Civic Type R. Ended up going with the FL5 Type R, but I can only imagine the all wheel drive on the carolla would be a blast in your Canadian Winters.
@@YoungShul I mean, sure, there are a couple of them, but it's not many, unfortunately. GR Yaris/corolla/86, the Miata, Golf GTi, Integra, Civic, M2/M3/M4, 911, Cayman, Hyundai's, Nissan Z, and... that's it off the top of my head. Okay, you know what it's plenty to choose from yet, but honestly I think that aside from maybe the Toyotas, some Porsches and the Miata, these won't be around as manuals for long. Toyota is actually working on inventing a sort of fake manual for their future EVs (which I'm not really a fan of tbh), but you bet that companies that aren't that traditionalist, like BMW or VW will ditch the manual and act like it never existed the moment they deem it unnecessary. In fact it's a miracle they still offer it since it's such an extremely tiny segment of the market.
the gr corolla is definitely one of the best modern cars and the motor is insane. its had around 700 hp pushed out of it on stock rods, pistons, and crankshaft
Linus torque tips lets gooooo. I'm an old top gear fan. And I'm gonna shock you ltt team. This format and your team has the potential to be just as entertaining. I particularly enjoy the deeper explainer of some of the engineering.
I didn't expect a sports car review by LTT! I'd love to see more of them! +1 on the dealer markup situation. This is the reason why I've instead decided to get a used motorcycle instead for some fun.
I rate this. Here in Australia we have the GR Yaris aswell as the GR Corolla. Toyota has a sick lineup at the moment with the GR86 aswell. You guys could easily make a car reviewing type channel.
Glad to see the crew drive a manual again. It's been a while since Dennis and Berkel was with the Lambo at Channel Super Fun.
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the mistake: EQ curve of the soundsystem is boosting low end (60ish Hz) because it has to compete with an engine, which at 4000 rpm is about 60 Hz. So low end of is already busy with engine sound, the soundsystem needs to blast through it. So give it a listen while driving , then cut the 60 and see which you like more. This is EQing to the venue to the room haha
I have the GR86 and just love that feeling of having enough power to be extremely fun but not too powerful to get you pulled over or killed.. Sweet midrange mate.
it's silly that the gr corolla is more expensive than the highest spec gr86, and just a stone throw away from the supra hot hatches are fun and all but it's still a corolla, one that leaves you with zero room to do any of your own modifications to 15k is a lot of money you could play with on a gr86 to match the cost of the corolla
I can’t wait to drive mine again. It’s been down for 1.5 years, but going in tomorrow to start a forged engine rebuild. You can’t beat a Miata for a fun driving vehicle.
I am lucky enough to have gotten a GRC in the states, and while I was in Vancouver for LTX this past week, I kept thinking, “man, my car would be great here with the city and the mountains right behind it”. Actually saw a Circuit edition while I was there, among Vancouvers amazing car scene.
I would've never thought i'd see linus with a GR corolla, and i'm all up for it. It's wholesome seeing non-car guys do actually really quality reviews about these kind of cars
I've driven and put about 40k miles on a 2010 forester base model with a 5 speed manual. it only has about 88k miles on it right now so it's in great shape but man, even though it is quite slow(8 seconds from 0-60), it is so fun to drive. especially in the winter when i'm able to get the tires to break traction a bit. such an amazing little vehicle. it really goes to show that speed isn't everything
as being a car (and motorcycle) guy, i totally get this. I used to have a couple geo metros too, and those were FUN to drive. I personally think you get more fun out of using every last bit of performance out of a slow car than you get out of a fast car that you can't completely use. You mentioned also the "half a second of wee," probably in reference to the speed limit. I def get that, expecially on motorcycles. Now you know why so many of us go fast: no, we aren't racing, and no, we aren't showing off, and no, we usually aren't even in a rush, we just enjoy the thrill. And manuals will always be more fun for me, if theoretically on paper less useful these days for both performance and gas millage. Responsiveness..... That Geo Metro had a 997cc engine with basically no flywheel.
I am so incredibly surprised and excited that he chose a GR Corrola. Been a fan for years and would not have guessed he would be drawn to the hot hatches lol I'm here for it
@@RichWhiteUM Yes, I caught that. Not because he didn't like the GR, but because the markup at the dealership is so high and the waiting period is too long.
That is the biggest problem. That GR Corolla is definitely a dream car for many that saw Initial D but it's hard to get that car for a reasonable price from any car dealership.
Sweet to see Linus finally got his driver's license, he's growing up so fast
I do miss Jake in this beautiful moment...
He didnt, thats why Alex is riding with him
Seems like only yesterday he was gaming on a green desk.
Getting driving lisenses can be difficult for folk with ADHD, it's preety cool he did it.
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"it's more fun to drive a slow car fast, than a fast car slow" -- this is pretty much it.
True words.
The GR Corolla isn't that slow though.
last thing that Corolla is slow if it was a Miata then yes it does apply (Miata owner here)
This also applies to motorcycles.
the gr corolla isnt slow tho
I appreciate that Alex is willing to recognize when he "ran out of skill". That's a very good mindset.
Totally. I am going to start using this.
@@calholli You can drift 4WD they just need to have more power like he said.
@@calholli yes and no, there's actually a pretty big following for awd drifting in Australia you just need little weight and high power along with no traction control which was probably on in this video
@@calholli my F-Type R will drift in any condition, its just a power/awd programming thing
@@calholli WRX STI Begs to differ. (May the rest in Peace... DAMN YOU SUBARU :()
I'm a hard-core car guy so obviously I watch a lot of car stuff. I also watch reviews that are more into details. But I like that you guys are doing your style car videos. A break from the norm. I would have a hard time buying this too with markup but can appreciate what it is for sure.
Now they are becoming more readily available at MSRP, at least in my area. Blue Flame circuits seem to be a bit more rare and I am picking mine up this weekend with a small markup (~2k) but I''ve been waiting since the car was announced to get one so I'm more than happy with that. Core's and Premiums in my area seem to listed with little to no markup though, and those with markups seem to not be selling.
It's worth nothing the dealer was going to wave the markup if I traded in a car, but I was not planning on that.
Bought my Core 2/23, 41.5K (US). I called a LOT of dealers. Happy with the car, coming from WRXs from '02.
Odd they did not take yaris GR since it is closer to suzuki swift, faster, smaller and more fun.
Watching Linus basically reviewing a car is the weirdest thing to me. It's like when you have two VERY different friend groups who suddenly meet each other and you're not sure how you're supposed to act or even feel about the situation😂
I felt the same when I stumbled across Jayz Camaro build.
This is so accurate 😂
as a car guy i absolutely love it
@@Seffyrthat kinda feels more natural though, he’s a car guy at heart too and it just so happens that there’s a surprising amount of overlap between the two groups
also when he shows off his new giant house by adding things to it
it’s very interesting to hear non car guys try to talk about cars and show enthusiasm. it warms my heart a little.
Same.
haha your comment made me giggle, thankfully read your comment before watching the video, had a blast ! Greetings !
As a tech guy who meant to learn about cars but forgot, a review like this is very influential. I really love to see these car reviews.
Alex is very car guy.
@@lurch789I mean, at the end of the day...that's what really matters.
Linus is low key a true car guy by accident. It doesn't need to be fast, just fun and it's cool to see someone like Linus really understand that.
linus just never had the expendable income to be a "car guy" so it was off his radar. now that he is in a different place financially he is branching out and knows he doesn't have to justify having a car "Just for fun" He's always been into motorcycles which is basically car guy adjacent but motorcycles cost much less.
With his money we'll see him in a S15 Rocket Bunny very soon.
@@nihilisticpoetmaybe if he takes Sammit's offer
Yeah, I don't think liking any fun car makes you a car guy by default.
also a bike guy, he has an sv650
Ok I just picked up mine today... at MSRP, used but practically new at 300 miles. Apparently the first owner got it, got buyer's remorse and traded in for a rav4. God bless him, I'm having a heck of a time. It's a white loaded core model, has basically everything I could ask for, plus extended comprehensive warranty.
Do you find yourself missing those torsen LS differentials? I don't think I could have a car without LSDs.
Don't fret, like the Golf R, it seems the GR can get crazy power with mods. If it was available for MSRP when I got my Kona N, I would have gone with the GR.
@@TripedalTroductions He said it's a loaded core model, probably has the performance package installed which includes the LSDs
@@DefinitionofFailureI thought all models get lsd.
Has your GRC caught fire yet?
As a car guy, the saying of “it’s more fun to drive a slow car faster than a fast car slow” rains true especially with Toyota GR lineup. They are absolutely phenomenal vehicles, considering what you get
True, but it’s pretty absurd to call a series of 300HP 3 banger hot hatches “slow”, these cars are not slow.
They are ok, but not for 55k. I used to own an Evo8, Evo10 and a few WRXs and those were priced appropriately. M3P is way better for that kind of money. 11.5 1/4 mile and still a blast in the corners. Not so fast it's scary/you get yourself into trouble like the Plaid, but fast enough to have fun. If you want a similar experience, just get a WRX or Golf R and save your money.
@@xsct878absolutely agree that little hatch is impressively quick.
@@markstreeter9920 And to mention that if we are speaking of just slow but fun cars, you can get an MX-5 ND for half the price
There's a lot to be said about driving a "slow" car at the limit, especially if it's light and manual trans
The dealership problem is only getting worse I’m glad some people are being in attention to it
Markets are flooded with empty money that people didn't earn. At catalogue retail price the demand is higher than the supply, so the price increases. If prices are law restricted, you end up with no cars to buy at all, 2 year queues or full package variants only available. There's no way around the market laws, which is what we all should already know after the pandemic period.
@@Tarets used market is the answer
@@Tarets smartest thing I've heard addressing this issue
My mom went to get a minivan, 33k msrp. But actual price was 55k. Base model. 20k miles. All new cars are 10 months out. Toyota BTW.
with as busted as the car market is and as dealerships are in particular I don't see why anyone would willingly buy a new car at this point. Even the used car market is messed up, but it's nowhere near as bad.
As a car guy, I never thought I’d watch a car review from LTT of all places, but here we are. Cool video!
I believe they have done multiple car reviews, but I'm not sure if they're on the main channel or the shortcircuit channel
I'm trying really hard not to be a car guy because it's an expensive ass hobby, but I'm kinda failing. :(
@@arnox4554 Yeah. It’s a bit of an addiction lol. I’m a car guy, pc guy, and now a gun guy… needless to say, my wallet absolutely hates me!
@@Tomcat115 dude, I'm glad I'm not you, but at the same time, it sounds really fun to be you lol
@@Tomcat115sounds like me. Car guy, pc guy, and a guitar guy. Wallet is crying but I’m having fun
"I have made a very expensive mistake" ... this title hasn't aged well.
“ I can’t justify buying a Toyota Corolla, so I’m going to continue driving my Porsche”. I love this guy
so he doesnt like fast fun
Justify and afford are two different things
Can't justify the price gouging
Those adm ruin the fun
Keep the computer you already got… oh car! I mean car! Confused! 🤪🤪🤪
Linus: Gas cars? What year is it!?!
Also Linus: I miss having a stick shift.
Manual 😂 your not 4 so you don't call it stick
@@mikey6587 please don't be the lame grammer police...
@@mikey6587 manual gear/ stick shift they both work you know what he is talking about.
Man's playing on both sides
@@mikey6587 Linus is the one who called that in the first place, also it is grammatically correct, so stop being the buzzkill
I love seeing car content from LTT. I doubt you can justify doing very many videos like this on the main channel but I think a car channel could really fly. Linus Torque Tips.
Linus torque tips is just an awsome name lol
Alex is probably the main host if lmg decided to have a dedicated car channel, in that case, Alex Auto Tips sounds a bit more appropriate I think.
Cool but they are so nerdy and boring cars, need some jdm culture
@@p1xlb522Alex Auto Advice?
@@p1xlb522 And/or Jake. He's also really into vehicles.
As a car and computer guy, love seeing this.
I think you guys would do really well with a car focused channel.
Seriously?
@@adeadlyfart13yes.
seriously? @@adriandotexe
@@RETROXPRESSTHRIFTyes
Give Alex his own Car Channel already !
I agree, he's a natural at this.
AutoLinked?
Didn’t Jake also want a car channel?
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We need more car reviews like this, it covers a perspective that most other car reviewers don’t have. Also both Linus and Alex seem to enjoy doing this kind of thing.
Linus Car Tips
we dont need. well, not on this channel at least
Don't know if you have seen it but they have a few of them on short circuit. mostly lead by Alex but still similar to this
I don't know what car reviewers you watch, but the ones I watch are much better than this.
To me the editing felt a bit confusing at first because they dont mention what the video is about in the intro
i love how the GR Corolla is so good that even techtubers are getting into it
HOW MUCH DID TOYOTA PAY YOU FOR THIS COMMENT
@@chrissnydezthey’ve been talking about trying to get a GR Corolla on the WAN show for a long time
@@chrissnydez It certainly feels like that with how popular it is. lol
@@chrissnydez GR Yaris they got in the EU is def superior than the GR corolla we got in the states tho
Except that it has a 3 cylinder. Yuk
I always find new perspectives on car reviews interesting. It's interesting to see techies talk about cars, because they focus more on experience than typical car specs
I am a car enthusiast probably more than a tech enthusiast, and this is the first car video you've done that I like. The editing, structure, inclusion of Linus, it all works. More of this please.
Yes, except the lack of knowledge about turbos lmao. 25psi is NOT a concerning amount of boost when the OEM built it that way. If it came stock with 15psi and was tuned on 25psi later it would be more of a concern 🤷♂
this video reminds me of jay leno videos
Same! Loved this style. Felt like a kid watching top gear again
as a car enthusiast, i just dont get the script. If you want light manual hot car and you dailydrive taycan - simply get cayman gts. I understand toyota paid for this video, so create script we can believe in.
@@Fertro exactly my point, its about turbo sizing.. if the turbo is small enough it wont cause lag but will need more PSI in the top end to still make power. this is common knowledge among us tuners.. a simple google search would explain it; but to him it was concerning.. that is funny to me lol
Just gotta say as a car enthusiast, I really appreciate this video. Your car reviews are a lot better than most other tech focused channels, and it's pretty clear Alex is a big car guy with a lot of knowledge. More of this please!
Meh, who are you comparing Alex to? He doesn't even know how to drive properly; a prerequisite for being a "car guy".
@@Shaurya_Pant And his scene in the engine bay wasn't really that good. He said there is a 3 cylinder engine and that the intake has a flap on it. Perhaps a more appropriate engine bay explanation would have gone over:
More details about the engine, torque, hp, displacement, curve, materials and how does this engine differ from a standard model.
Gone over the intake system a bit more, is it naturally aspirated, turbo, compressor?
And just in general actually go over things. He just pointed out that there is an engine and it gets air from a hole. Amazing.
@@ASDASD34RDFSlol this isn't meant to be a savagegeese video. This is a tech channel and their content needs to be adjusted for their audience.
@@Bruno-cb5gk I agree with you, @ASDASD34RDFS I sympathize, if I wasn't already familiar with those points of interest, I would definitely want to know, since I'm a car enthusiast, but you have to consider, how many of the nerds watching this are going to understand any of that?
@@ASDASD34RDFS You mean, fluff... that most of us that aren't car geeks... Care about? Some of us, just want a car that feels good without knowing every little bit of detail about it.
the occasional car content is always a blessing.
With a car like this, I can see why Linus wouldn't want to waste time redoing waterblock tests, this time using the card it was actually designed for.
I think it's time LTT started their own car channel. They do car reviews quite well.
Just do them on this channel. All this multiple channel crap is nonsense
Yeah. I agree. There's a lot of garbage car and/or tech content out there. This isn't garbage.
if it's all gonna be EVs, meh.
This GR Corolla though is a positive change.
I think the algorithm forces them into separate channels a lot of the time because mixing things up can throw off their engagement stats
No. Absolutely. Not.
This is the reason why I still keep my 1998 Ford Escort ZX2.
It has a feeling of connectedness to the road that newer cars just can't emulate. A feeling of solidness and mass, yet being extremely nimble and quick. Being able to feel the engine deliver all of its 130 horses in a short-ratio gearbox, without the police down your back.
That is what makes driving fun. Being one with the machine, not just riding inside of it.
I had a ZX2 all through high school, and it was the car that made me “love” driving. I’m always on the hunt for one in great condition.
There is nothing fun about a 98 Escort........
@@drunkhusband6257 zx2 was a very different ford escort.
First car I bought was the 99 Zx2. I loved that thing. But switched the a Soul. I always joke about trading my Escort in for my Soul. Haha
Fiesta ST
I loved watching Alex drive this around the track while explaining everything correctly
Same!
Lol the restrained frustration in "Ooooff... Well you're going off the redline while slipping the clutch. That's very not good"
Funny that you made a video about making a huge expensive mistake ... only to detonate LTT wtih a series of huge and undoubtedly expensive mistakes.
Alex very quickly became my favorite member of the entire LTT crew, even when im not interested in a video, if Alex is involved, its bound to be entertaining and/or informative so i will watch it regardless and i havent been disappointed a single time
Guess just different views. Alex is always in the videos with the most interesting topics to me but he always ends up annoying the hell out of me for some reason tbh
@@eskamobob8662 Probably because you aren't the brightest person around
@@9.5.9.5 Dude people can have different opinions lay off
@@eskamobob8662 I feel the same way. Him and Jake annoy the shit out of me
Alex, Dan, Kyle, Luke
As an auto enthusiast and Toyota fan, I genuinely appreciate this video.
long live toyota and lexus. The only thing I have trouble with are the ridiculous emission standards making the cars less reliable..
@@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg yeah, have a bullet proof 5th gen 4runner but gonna be a moron and trade it for a new trailhunter taco next year
@@himboslice_ as long as its the tubo-less version and naturally aspirated you shouldn't have any problems 👍
This video is well produced. A lot better than some of the other tech and/or automotive garbage that's out there.
Last auto show I went to Toyota was really the one big disappointment I saw. Admittedly I'm taller than Alex but the interior space in any of their cars I sat in was very disappointing and not particularly comfortable for me.
I'm glad you touched on the dealer markups and scarcity. This would be the perfect car for me, but I'm basically not allowed to buy one.
I would totally watch a Canadian edition of Top Gear with Linus, Alex and James as Hosts. Dennis could be The Stig.
I think this is the start of Linus’s car enthusiast journey. Love to see Alex(and probably jake too) are taking effect on him
well they gotta expand their viewers :D
TOP GEAR CANADA
@@kylepmore2842
tech gear
@@kylepmore2842 If anything Throttle House is already Top Gear Canada. Their editing and production quality is unmatched in the automotive TH-cam space.
GR is the biggest blessing that toyota gives to us car enthusiasts, and the history behind GR is super cool that I think it deserves a documentary
GR is kinda weird, though. Toyota should have kept the *TRD* branding for ALL their performance cars (think TRD Celica, the TRD rallying Corollas, or the JGTC Supra era) since it has so much more history and weight, instead of creating this weird new brand and locking TRD to their pavement princess trucks…
It would be if you could buy one at MSRP. I hate getting ripped off by the dealers so I would never buy one.
I just wish Nissan would bring back the Silvia. I miss my S13s.
I think they would bring it back in the future. They always do
@@misterscienceguythe new z looks pretty cool
Manual driving is an experience that I will continue to treasure for as long as I can 😭
I hate it.
@@Qwerty-uiop Same. Once i tried driving an automatic, i never want to drive manual again.
@@aktm1407 manual is too complicated. For me, it requires too much work.
I have a WRX STI and I wouldn't trade it for the world 🥰
Once you drive a manual car, driving an automatic is so easy!
The thing that is fun about cars in the 250-350 horse power range, is that they feel quick, but they're just slow enough where you can push them to their limits without actually going super fast and endangering yourself
Linus is gonna be a car guy and I'm all for it
Driving that he definitely aint😂😂😂
@@mikey6587 its a gr corolla wdym
I’d be interested if he somehow got a GR Yaris
That's crazy, I just started rewatching donut media and a whole lot of others and now all of a sudden, Linus drops one car video too
@@jugee8 that's my point😂
As a car guy who's into tech myself, its so refreshing to see a perspective from LTT towards cars! would be so unique to see Linus & Team to dive into these automotive segment in a tech perspective!
They've done a few car videos actually
Car videos are fairly regular but mostly on Short Circuit.
@@uzeeinc yea but they're all evs
always love seeing Alex, Jake, and Anthony in their elements
I thought Jake was a tosser at first. But he seems good now.
The forrest?
what element, driving? They can barely do that
Emily*
Where's Emily? You're talking about the older videos linked to? Which one of them?
Well, this video title could've been used twice recently..
As a Focus RS owner, I'm THRILLED to see Linus in a hot hatch! I do think he'd feel a bit more at home in the newest Golf R or even GTI, though.
The GTI has a horrendous infotainment system though. All touch screen and impractical/non-intuitive.
As an owner of a manual '16 golf r, I disagree. I don't think he would like the newest gen golf r. The information is trash. I think he, like most people, would prefer the mk7 or 7.5
As an Mk6 owner, a golf R does scratch all the performance + practicality itches. Tech, however, seems to have been an afterthought; even for ten years ago.
@@ThroughFallenEyes MK7.5 GTI is the best they ever build and it will probably stay like this
@@ThroughFallenEyes As an owner of a mk7.5, I would agree. Prices of the mk8 are crazy (a dealer near by called me wanting to sell me one for $69,000 CAD).
That said the used Golf R market is crazy right now, the same dealer wanted to buy my car for $30,000 with 120,000km on it (and you can be sure they'll turn around and try to sell it for 40-45k).
So happy your dad is teaching you how to drive Linus. He seems so proud of you
I really like the discussion about buyers experience in this video, giving people an idea of the pain points of trying to purchase the thing on review is such a consumer friendly move and I hope it continues.
Neat little car and looks a lot of fun to drive, but probably one of those you'd want to wait for a refresh on to get the previous years model at a discount imo, to save having to suffer the obnoxious dealership bollocks and get the car in a more timely manner.
I have made a very expensive mistake..... thats 2 in 2 weeks then...
Wow, didn't think I'd see Linus review a GR Corolla...Very nice!
The shady dealer practices that are happening all around the world at the moment is insane, and they are getting away with it, even with consumer protection agencies.
don't buy a car, dealers can keep them for themselves ...
@@s.i.m.c.a Exactly, vote with your wallets. Let them freak out when it's 5 years down the line and they still have that turd sitting on the lot
I'd say that if you are talking about them going way over MSRP i can't agree. I do agree that it's both a bad thing and extremely damaging to both brands and consumers. However, it's very much the flip side of us all beating them up to way under invoice for years. It sucks but it ain't shady or a surprise unfortunately.
Now if you're talking switching orders, forcing products, etc i 100% agree.
Its really a shame. Unbelievable that in the "land of the free" car manufactures are LEGALLY required to sell their cars exclusively to dealers. Its an entire industry that is there for no fucking reason and its costing us all billions of dollars.
That being said I have been looking at the new Prius and there are people out there finding them at MSRP. Just takes a lot of time and a little luck.
I would totally love more car videos done by the LTT team. This was a really nice change to see.
You’ve made a much bigger mistake now
Man, the GR corolla is such a sick car, I wish normal people could actually buy one
You literally can, there's like 3 around me for sale at dealers
@@AndrewB23yeah, for ridiculous prices
@@AndrewB23yea with a mark up of 10k minimum
Normal people don't buy 50k hatchbacks
@@AndrewB23 Normal people don't want to spend $50k on a Corolla because of dealership markups
I love Alex and his car reviewing, hes so suited to it, Ive watched every single one of his car reviews.
You can't really call the rest car reviews he always does electric
@@Dylan20579 They're still.. cars..?
@@kevin6447 toy cars. No personality no character all boring
He complained about lane assist on a car, saying he was in the lane. Meanwhile the footage literally showed his tires going over the white lines on inside turns. So I can't really take him seriously after that.
4:00
Linus: "It's not scary!"
Alex: (gripping the handle) "Y E P"
I am a car guy, and I can confirm that ltt...a tech channel...made the most non tech video possible by a tech channel. And I love it!
for me, the REPAIRABILITY is the most important part. and will always be.
Toyota is part of the "Alliance for Automotive Innovation" that put out an ad a couple years ago saying right to repair will lead to you getting sexually assaulted in a parking garage. Modern day Toyota is not pro right to repair. If you want that, get a used one.
That's the only real issue I have with EVs... they're completely locked down. It should be mandatory that after, say, 5 years their entire software platform is unlocked for third party vendors.
Toyota is throwing that out the window lately. The parts for this car are extremely expensive ala carte.
I love seeing a tech channel review a non-electric car! Keep it coming!
@@twinturborayyes it is
@@twinturboray why?
Alex's car knowledge is as impressive as his PC and engineering. So happy that Toyota is still building cars like this alongside the EVs. The Yaris is already a cult classic; this might end up the same for those who can't get its little brother.
I wanna know more about their sound knowledge and what exactly the EQ graph means. I don't think I've ever seen them review a product where it matches their "baseline" curve. Do these companies not test the products frequency response? Do they not tune it "properly"? Can they even do that or is it hardware dependent? Or is this baseline curve LTT always uses meaningless? I feel like it's the latter, because I highly doubt not a single sound product out of the dozens if not hundreds they've reviewed, hits it spot on, yet there are plenty of sound products that sound great.
@@pcmasterracetechgod5660 companies don't really make it so flat for obvious reasons regarding the average user, and sometimes companies don't even care much. Not being at their baseline curve or flat doesn't mean its not gonna sound good, it just would boost/lack some frequencies at certain areas, making it not as accurate as a flat sound, which isn't a big deal because it's usually not as enjoyable as a v curve or just boosted bass.
@@pcmasterracetechgod5660 real car guys rip it out and install a real sound system. LTT missed the point of the Toyota it’s a sports car and as such the sound system is a secondary thought.
As some one who has done sound offs it depends on what you want, bass is easy in any car but clarity is a steep learning curve, the seats, roof lining, parcel shelf, dash etc all effect the sound moving around and manufacturers don’t care about this as it requires money to get right. Many install good components but it will always suck in one regard.
@@Lockwood360 I usually watch all LTT videos I can but I refrain from watching any of the car reviews because they don't know anything lol. It''s like they reading from a brochure and I don't blame them. There's cool tech inside and you can review it sure but as for the car review itself, well it sucks because they're not mechanics or racing drivers or at least reviewers of a lot of brands. They think teslas are cool too and that EVs are the future so that kind of nullifies their opinion a bit.
@@Lockwood360 If I recall correctly, he studied and worked as a designer for car suspension.
He might not be your average carbro, but he definitely knows what he is talking about.
Oh this ain’t the only expensive mistake…
Man, If you guys did a channel just for car stuff, I'd watch. Love the level of energy.
I appreciate the Volt as a chase vehicle. Loved that car (sold it for a Bolt). Not going back to gas, but I can accept hot hatches and other small fun cars.
When Alex really gets into it, I just smile and nod. Glad he’s enjoying his role as “the car guy” lol
I had a 2001 Suzuki swift and it was a little gem. It was so hardy I left it out in one of the worst winter storms here in the UK for a month. When the snow had all thawed the car started first time.
I was between a GR Carolla or a Civic Type R. Ended up going with the FL5 Type R, but I can only imagine the all wheel drive on the carolla would be a blast in your Canadian Winters.
I did the mk7.5 golf R and for Canadian winter it rocks. I would've the type R but being 30 now the subtle looks of the R sold me.
You can't lose with that choice!
Awd cars always seem to have less handling idk why!
CTR>>>>Corolla
@@Frisky_Pandauh no lol
I like how manuals are slowly coming back because people are realizing how much more engaging and fun it makes driving.
number wise perhaps. but overall the market segment it is still decreasing
Are they though? With EV's being the accepted future, manuals will still be niche
@@aktm1407 i think what he means by coming back is that many of the sports cars today have the option for manual when they normally wouldnt
In europe they never really left
@@YoungShul I mean, sure, there are a couple of them, but it's not many, unfortunately. GR Yaris/corolla/86, the Miata, Golf GTi, Integra, Civic, M2/M3/M4, 911, Cayman, Hyundai's, Nissan Z, and... that's it off the top of my head. Okay, you know what it's plenty to choose from yet, but honestly I think that aside from maybe the Toyotas, some Porsches and the Miata, these won't be around as manuals for long. Toyota is actually working on inventing a sort of fake manual for their future EVs (which I'm not really a fan of tbh), but you bet that companies that aren't that traditionalist, like BMW or VW will ditch the manual and act like it never existed the moment they deem it unnecessary. In fact it's a miracle they still offer it since it's such an extremely tiny segment of the market.
the gr corolla is definitely one of the best modern cars and the motor is insane. its had around 700 hp pushed out of it on stock rods, pistons, and crankshaft
Turbo triples are the coolest modern compact car engines and they sound awesome!
Linus torque tips lets gooooo. I'm an old top gear fan. And I'm gonna shock you ltt team. This format and your team has the potential to be just as entertaining. I particularly enjoy the deeper explainer of some of the engineering.
I didn't expect a sports car review by LTT! I'd love to see more of them!
+1 on the dealer markup situation. This is the reason why I've instead decided to get a used motorcycle instead for some fun.
Motorbikes do hit different, got to love the power to weight ratio.
So sick of car dealerships. If it's high demand just raise the MSRP don't make me jump through hoops
Sports car? Where?
I rate this. Here in Australia we have the GR Yaris aswell as the GR Corolla. Toyota has a sick lineup at the moment with the GR86 aswell. You guys could easily make a car reviewing type channel.
You guys get both???
@@dampmaky yep
@@dampmaky Japan 🤝 Australia
All the cool Japanese cars
A perk of driving on the *correct* side of the road
Here in Australia we also have the very slick Honda Civic Type R Turbo and also the Hyundai I30N.
It’s like the late 90s, I’m finally excited for Toyota again.
it's quite entertaining watching non car enthusiasts experience these kinds of vehicles and produce content around them
yup
nah i think you just made a more expensive mistake
The car community has been getting gifted with a wide option of manual vehicles these past 2 years. Glad he's loving the GR Corolla
8:44 It's the GR86 that has the oil starvation issues, not the GR Corolla as Alex mentioned.
Glad to see the crew drive a manual again. It's been a while since Dennis and Berkel was with the Lambo at Channel Super Fun.
the mistake:
EQ curve of the soundsystem is boosting low end (60ish Hz) because it has to compete with an engine, which at 4000 rpm is about 60 Hz. So low end of is already busy with engine sound, the soundsystem needs to blast through it. So give it a listen while driving , then cut the 60 and see which you like more. This is EQing to the venue to the room haha
I have the GR86 and just love that feeling of having enough power to be extremely fun but not too powerful to get you pulled over or killed..
Sweet midrange mate.
I love my GR86, one of the most fun cars to drive
I really like the way they look but I need more power than those have.
Love my gr86 as well. Test drove a gr Corolla. Not sure I like it the same
it's silly that the gr corolla is more expensive than the highest spec gr86, and just a stone throw away from the supra
hot hatches are fun and all but it's still a corolla, one that leaves you with zero room to do any of your own modifications to
15k is a lot of money you could play with on a gr86 to match the cost of the corolla
They would still pull you over for the exhaust. 😒
At least, that's what they do here in Quebec, even if it's totally stock.
God bless the GR team and Papadakis Racing for making the GR Corolla as good as it is today ❤
This is why I love my Mazda MX-5. Not a fast car but super fun. They’re so much fun to drive
I can’t wait to drive mine again. It’s been down for 1.5 years, but going in tomorrow to start a forged engine rebuild. You can’t beat a Miata for a fun driving vehicle.
Man this car cost less than the cost to retest that copper block.
I love cars I love tech... Watching Linus and Alex in a GR Corolla is sublime!
A friend bought the GR Yaris, we're all quite used to cars with 5-600hp, but my god is that Yaris one of the most fun cars I've ever driven.
We all agree that the days pass very fast and Linus is growing faster
A very expensive mistake indeed
I am lucky enough to have gotten a GRC in the states, and while I was in Vancouver for LTX this past week, I kept thinking, “man, my car would be great here with the city and the mountains right behind it”. Actually saw a Circuit edition while I was there, among Vancouvers amazing car scene.
I would've never thought i'd see linus with a GR corolla, and i'm all up for it. It's wholesome seeing non-car guys do actually really quality reviews about these kind of cars
I'm shocked to see this car reviewed on LTT, but I'm happy! I was very lucky to get one without markup in the US in February.. it's a ton of fun!
03:15 says it all. I don't think I've even seen him that genuinely joyful on any tech video lol.
I've driven and put about 40k miles on a 2010 forester base model with a 5 speed manual. it only has about 88k miles on it right now so it's in great shape but man, even though it is quite slow(8 seconds from 0-60), it is so fun to drive. especially in the winter when i'm able to get the tires to break traction a bit. such an amazing little vehicle. it really goes to show that speed isn't everything
10:10 i bet he drove quietly home after that
as being a car (and motorcycle) guy, i totally get this. I used to have a couple geo metros too, and those were FUN to drive. I personally think you get more fun out of using every last bit of performance out of a slow car than you get out of a fast car that you can't completely use. You mentioned also the "half a second of wee," probably in reference to the speed limit. I def get that, expecially on motorcycles. Now you know why so many of us go fast: no, we aren't racing, and no, we aren't showing off, and no, we usually aren't even in a rush, we just enjoy the thrill.
And manuals will always be more fun for me, if theoretically on paper less useful these days for both performance and gas millage. Responsiveness..... That Geo Metro had a 997cc engine with basically no flywheel.
Came back to watch this video again, because I really like it. The way that it was presented is so much different than other car vids
Hey Alex keep making car videos! I really like cars being explained from a IT pov, its just different from the usual car people lol
IT + engineering background is a very interesting take.
Toyota making cool cars again has been amazing to watch. Thanks, Mr. Morizo!
No they don't.
@@vegeta6555that's what YOU think
cool cars that you can't purchase due to them not being available....
I was the same, always chasing more powerful cars. But at some point you realise that speed is not fun. The engagement is where the real fun is.
I've made a very expensive mistake, I paid an employee $500 to test a product 😔
I am so incredibly surprised and excited that he chose a GR Corrola. Been a fan for years and would not have guessed he would be drawn to the hot hatches lol I'm here for it
Except that he didn't. I guess you missed the part at the end where he said he couldn't rationalize buying it?
@@RichWhiteUM Yes, I caught that. Not because he didn't like the GR, but because the markup at the dealership is so high and the waiting period is too long.
The GR line from Toyota is fantastic. Super fun and nimble cars
Alex is the type of guy to do everything.
If someone told me he is driving instructor, I would believe him.
That is the biggest problem. That GR Corolla is definitely a dream car for many that saw Initial D but it's hard to get that car for a reasonable price from any car dealership.
I'm so into the car content. Would love to see more of it. Nice to see opinions from a different perspective than the usual die hard car enthusiast
The fear in his eyes for a second at 10:13 lol... great video guys.
Should’ve stuck with the Petrol version…
And thanks for aging me with that Suzuki Swift. It too was my first car. It was lovely.
well, the title of the video did not age well