@@IdentifiantE.S A problem would be your laptop not turning on. Being loud or having less USB isn’t a problem if that’s the design. They are not advertising 3 USB and a dead silent laptop. You kids are so dramatic about everything lol
I just got myself INSANE Deal for new Asus zephyrus G15 with 4k 120hz , 6800HS and 3080 only for only 1 226,79 $ from normal 2 584,27 $ price. Most luckiest purchase in my life.
Those temps and CB scores for a 16" are INSANELY good. There was headroom to let the clock speeds be higher when GPU loaded, say another 20W to bump those speeds to around 3.7ghz but they must have been closer to 4.4 in Cinebench. I am not sure why when a CPU in 70's it is being limited so harshly though. This one is close, if it had G-Sync and at least a 4080 I'd get it. Even the top model maxes out at 4070 unfortunately. I think that's a miss for sure.
What's best laptop under 2500-2600 USD for 3-4 year of reliable heavy use ~~~Best thermals and no heating 1. Data science graphics 2. Computer networking 3. Cloud computing ~ Need graphics equivalent to 3070TI or better ~ Need performance nearly same or better than 12700H ~Need large screen size I need bit better battery life as I travel.. average battery life would do.
@Shiv Find a laptop with the vacuum chamber cooling, and with the "best" thermal paste applied to both GPU & CPU ( usually most gaming laptop manufacturer will let you know which Thermal paste brand do they use ). And more internal fan is better I would advise it better to spend big now and reap the benefits later on, rather than spend small and try to compensate for your laptop weakness with time-consuming tweaks and such, especially with the cooling because even with the best cooling pad and with a room temperature of ~20 C, it can only reduce at most about 5C if you are really doing heavy work on your laptop
I got the version with 32gb ram, 4060 and 13950hx. My god this cpu is a beast. Far cry 6 at high settings 1080p 144hz gets around 100-120fps. It's big, and heavy, but on silent mode it still perfoms spectacular without making noise. I am so happy i bought this laptop. No issues with screenbleeding, i feel like i got a prime product.
Its a bad buy if u already got a 3060 stationary. but i had a 2060 laptop and needed more CPU power as well, so got this MSI laptop. the 4060 handles any game i throw at it. cs2 runs at locked 144fps with 0 dips. played icarus on it as well without issue. @@carnivorous_vegan
I think that I've seen the special trackpad in a separate model online. You'd probably have to buy the special model to get it. Edit: NVM, I'm dumb, I was thinking of the GE78
What's best laptop under 2500-2600 USD for 3-4 year of reliable heavy use ~~~Best thermals and no heating 1. Data science graphics 2. Computer networking 3. Cloud computing ~ Need graphics equivalent to 3070TI or better ~ Need performance nearly same or better than 12700H ~Need large screen size I need bit better battery life as I travel.. average battery life would do.
What's best laptop under 2500-2600 USD for 3-4 year of reliable heavy use ~~~Best thermals and no heating 1. Data science graphics 2. Computer networking 3. Cloud computing ~ Need graphics equivalent to 3070TI or better ~ Need performance nearly same or better than 12700H ~Need large screen size I need bit better battery life as I travel.. average battery life would do.
Oh, it's amazing to see laptop like this for Gaming and 3D Rendering. In fact, Asus and MSI are really competing for the best gaming laptop in the world and for me these two brands are really powerful for gaming.
Is this the funeral of the QHD 240 Hz OLED panel? Damn, I just want a 4k 120 Hz OLED for perfect 1080p scaling or at least the last year's 240 Hz panel with an RTX 4000. Paying $2k for GE67HX with 3070Ti and no G-Sync (no adaptive sync either) just stings.
What's best laptop under 2500-2600 USD for 3-4 year of reliable heavy use ~~~Best thermals and no heating 1. Data science graphics 2. Computer networking 3. Cloud computing ~ Need graphics equivalent to 3070TI or better ~ Need performance nearly same or better than 12700H ~Need large screen size I need bit better battery life as I travel.. average battery life would do.
@@bionicseaserpent Some countries don't even have full AMD laptops. And if they're being sold, there are 10-20 different references with Nvidia GPUs against a single laptop reference with AMD GPU. And in these cases, AMD is often priced worse by quite a lot. (right now, i could get a Ryzen 9 7940HS+4070 laptop for 1900€ and the 7940HS+7600S is also 1900€ while performing slightly worse than the 4060 Mobile)
@@rinsenpai135 where are you seeing 1900€ 7940hs 4070 laptops... Only the tuf a15 but that's for 1500 and the screen is kinda terrible, besides that I don't know where you're buying a 7000 CPU with a 4070 for that price and the 7000 CPU with the 7600 GPU is 1300 where I live...
What's best laptop under 2500-2600 USD for 3-4 year of reliable heavy use ~~~Best thermals and no heating 1. Data science graphics 2. Computer networking 3. Cloud computing ~ Need graphics equivalent to 3070TI or better ~ Need performance nearly same or better than 12700H ~Need large screen size I need bit better battery life as I travel.. average battery life would do.
The 4080 laptops are such a massive leap over these in performance. I have a gt77 titan with one and its great with great temps, but if I had a lower budget I would still get a cheaper 4080 model over this
What's best laptop under 2500-2600 USD for 3-4 year of reliable heavy use ~~~Best thermals and no heating 1. Data science graphics 2. Computer networking 3. Cloud computing ~ Need graphics equivalent to 3070TI or better ~ Need performance nearly same or better than 12700H ~Need large screen size I need bit better battery life as I travel.. average battery life would do.
This model seems to be part of Costco's gaming pc sale for $1599 - at that price does it become a no brainer over the Legion Pro i7 4080 (2023) at $2,299? But what about the GE68 4060 at $1,599 vs the Legion Pro 5i 16IRX8 4070 at $1,699?
Costco is advertising $1400. For basic gaming with Starfield and AC as my targets, this looks good. Was considering Asus Scar 17 but the reviews had concerns about the motherboard burning out.
@@redbullsauberpetronas Need an upgrade between what Windows 11 did to my old mid-range rig AND new games like Starfield, BG3, etc. coming out. Was deep in research mode and new Costco sales pamphlet came out...
I got this model at costco on sale for $1600, when i looked at other places online for it they were all several hundred dollars more expensive at least, so i got it since i've been using the same inspiron 15 7000 gaming laptop since 2016 and its got a cracked screen and keys that stick and i felt it was just time for a new one. i haven't opened it and started using it yet, but i think that i got a pretty good bang for my buck at least since online i can only find it for over $2000
I actually owned the GE78HX for all but a few days. Basically the bigger brother of this laptop. Initial impressions were not great, the box it comes in is super basic compared to similar priced Asus models, but whatever. The backlight bleed was instantly noticeable the second you turned the laptop on. Bottom right corner was glowing brighter than the rest. (many other reviewers had this issue) And the screen included just seemed to have huge sync issues to the point every game had frametime issues but fps was fine. (no g-sync either so can't test if this would fix it) MSI software/firmware is totally broken, the MSI centre feels extremely laggy and takes several seconds to respond to input, putting the laptop in anything over "Silent" mode caused performance to DROP. Also the laptop would just generally freeze and lock up during regular use. The 4080 in it felt like a minor upgrade over the 2060 in my Lenovo. Returned and cannot recommend MSI laptops to anyone.
Hey Jarrod, are you planning on reviewing the Omen 17 with the RTX4070 (or even any version of this year's Omen 17). I'm planning on buying something soon and the Omen 17 is the cheapest 4070 equipped laptop where I live and it comes at the same price as another laptop but with a 3070Ti.
GE66 Owner here and I have to say the new design is not as appealing to me due to it looking far more gamery now rather than subtle and sleek looks., otherwise great laptop!
Well three weeks ago July 01, 2023 got the 17.3" version QHD+ 240Hz Laptop, i9-13950HX, RTX 4070 (8GB), 32GB DDR5 (only 4000), 2TB NVMe SSD, Thunderbolt 4, USB-C, Win 11 Pro was the MSI 13VG-020US for $2099 with no taxes delivered. Is for Digital Audio could have used more ram but is all good. Witcher 3 and a few games still hold my interest. But saved $450 from above price and got an extra inch in screen size. The 4080 with 12GB was far more costly, and their highest end was nearly $2000 more with a 4090 with 16GB and 64GB RAM or go with a Titan.
typing this on my GE68 with an I9 13980HX and 4070, 2tb 16GB of RAM. Have been using it for a couple of months and I`m just so glad I bought it. the big centre placed touch pad + the numlock was a gamechanger for me as well has having the 16:10 screen. Was looking for a laptop with a centre placed macbook like touchpad + numlock, which is also able to run 99% games at good settings along with a lasting CPU for other purposes. This thing will definitely last me some years of quality computing :). A lenovo Legion would be my second choice, would probably be the best bang for your buck laptop for everyone else as well but I just had some personal preferences the GE68 Raider was more suited for.
So i just bought this for $1,599 at costco. My old laptop was an HP with a disk so i could download movies and music. This is my first gaming laptop, i didn't really want too much as my first MSI and i don't expect much. Do you think this was a good pickup for me
This is a suped-up Vector on the MS-15M1 motherboard. The BIOS updates that MSI sends out, they come with a Release Notes text file that says this BIOS update is for a Raider. It can sometimes be difficult finding truthful information about these laptops, and i think it's because they are basically the same laptop but the Raider gets upgraded parts for an extra $400-700. Even the listings on MSI's own product page are confusing, because it claims that a Vector GP68HX 13v is available with the top-of-the-line i9-13980HX (which has a special extra 20W boost) but I could never find one available. The Raider GE68HX does come with this CPU though and I think adding 20W of additional boost on top of all the other types if Intel boost, that should make some noticeably impressive power.
The most ridiculous thing I met with laptop from msi ge 66 2022 with 3070ti was availability of 2 type-c ports, but noone of both could be used for charging device. So type-c charge is privilege of way more expensive options. But one of type-c is thunderbolt 4
@@I_killed_that_beard_guy no, i tried. It doesn't work. I even asked support. They said that my option doesn't support charging. There is no any information about charging through type-c on official site
@@I_killed_that_beard_guy so I think it is for connecting external GPU, external monitors, external high speed storage devices, because speed of data transfer is near 40 Gbite/sec
What's best laptop under 2500-2600 USD for 3-4 year of reliable heavy use ~~~Best thermals and no heating 1. Data science graphics 2. Computer networking 3. Cloud computing ~ Need graphics equivalent to 3070TI or better ~ Need performance nearly same or better than 12700H ~Need large screen size I need bit better battery life as I travel.. average battery life would do.
I have the slightly older GE 66 with a 12700H and 3070 Ti from earlier in 2022 than the GE 67 HX and I still think that the upgrade is not as good as it could be, especially when it comes to the GPU.
Hey Jarrod. Should alot of people be concerned with gaming recent demand hike in Vram? I say this because I'm concerned if laptops with like 6 gb of vram will become obsolete faster than expected, especially for those who got them more recently and want to play the newer big titles. 8 Vram is what most are expecting now but I'm scared devs might push 10 in the next couple of years. 8 is the expected minimum now. CPUs don't seem to be the bottleneck but the Vram might be. I also say this because I have a gen 7(2022) Legion 5 pro with rtx 3060. I meet the requirements for alot of games for CPU and ram but the minimum is 8 vram and I'm wondering if I could still play them at solid rates. Maybe higher TGP and wattage helps this but it's still crazy. I'm just concerned because the Vram needed in these new games are getting out of hand and it might be getting out of hand for people who need Vram and power in other areas aside from gaming as well. This could also apply for people still getting 3000 series laptops as well. Maybe this could be a video
@@Solokid404 if anyone has the budget to pay for 12gbb vram or more graphic with same performance, he-she should buy it but if it's not affordable for them to buy, hey must accept whatever card is within their budget & lower their settings. intel graphics seems playable after driver updates according to the last video of linustechtips which has 12gb vram. 2nd hand hardware with vram over 12gb must also be considered for those users to let them be more future proof..
Costco has this on sale for US$1,299 for Black Friday - MSI GE68HX Raider 16" Gaming Laptop - 13th Gen Intel Core i9-13950HX - GeForce RTX 4060 - 144HZ FHD+ (1920 x 1200)
What's best laptop under 2500-2600 USD for 3-4 year of reliable heavy use ~~~Best thermals and no heating 1. Data science graphics 2. Computer networking 3. Cloud computing ~ Need graphics equivalent to 3070TI or better ~ Need performance nearly same or better than 12700H ~Need large screen size I need bit better battery life as I travel.. average battery life would do.
Nvidia 40 series has some large issues (burning cables, death by Hogwarts, low mobile performance) in general, but then their extremely expensive. I Would wait for the Ti and see if they could improve. Or maybe RDN3 or RDN4 is much better?
Only 4070 below are not great in performance, though. 4080 and 4090 laptop gpu are generational improvement from ampere. 3090 and 3080 desktop card performance are insane TbH.
"Low mobile performance" should be read as "dishonest mobile part naming". Every single mobile part is based on the desktop part a tier below it's name. Therefore, the laptop 4090 is really an 4080, the laptop 4080 is really a 4070, and the laptop 4070 is really a 4060. This has the unfortunate side effect of meaning that the lowest tier mobile part which actually has enough VRAM for modern games at 1440p is the very expensive "4080"
@@madcrowmaxwell absolutely agree, this is just dishonesty for the sake to fuck the customers. 3060 laptop was 20% slower than it's desktop counterpart, which meant they actually can name it right. but no.. they can't fill desktop tier 3090 so they stretch the GPUs which should've been tier below to fill that TOTL which they can't engineered or physicly impossible to make.
What's best laptop under 2500-2600 USD for 3-4 year of reliable heavy use ~~~Best thermals and no heating 1. Data science graphics 2. Computer networking 3. Cloud computing ~ Need graphics equivalent to 3070TI or better ~ Need performance nearly same or better than 12700H ~Need large screen size I need bit better battery life as I travel.. average battery life would do.
There will always be compromises with cheaper laptops. You just need to decide what is important to you and buy something that meets your needs the best. Console is definitely more simple, but a laptop is more useful overall if you want to do more than gaming.
Hey Jarrod, So Can I prefer to buy this laptop despite being the price?(or) Do I need to switch to any other alternative? Please tell me about the fan noise Iam Concerned about it. Will it be loud when playing games?? 😢
I feel like when I'm looking for a "gaming laptop" I've become more interested in the battery life of the laptop during gaming sessions. I wonder why this laptop is relatively more energy efficient with respect to gaming than in simple tasks compared to other laptops. I have the 2022 G14 and is kinda disappointed that i cannot game longer than 1hr on battery...
Gaming laptop battery is more like a UPS and a "let me play a quick game while waiting on someone". My current laptop lasts less than an hour and that's ok.
I got a "deal" on an acer adaptive sync 240hz monitor a few years ago and whadia know it's because it's the "old displayport" that doesn't work on anything this year. lol.
Is it only me who feels, reviewers are making videos for higher end laptops ,wayyyyy more, this year. Entry level and mid range laptops are like non existent.
4070 for $2600?!?! Setting aside 4070 should really be the 60 class, that's INSANE. Really hope consumers punt on this generation. Also pairing an HX processor with a "4070" makes little to no sense but hey, maybe some dumb people are buying these.
What's best laptop under 2500-2600 USD for 3-4 year of reliable heavy use ~~~Best thermals and no heating 1. Data science graphics 2. Computer networking 3. Cloud computing ~ Need graphics equivalent to 3070TI or better ~ Need performance nearly same or better than 12700H ~Need large screen size I need bit better battery life as I travel.. average battery life would do.
@@slylockfox85 What's best laptop under 2500-2600 USD for 3-4 year of reliable heavy use ~~~Best thermals and no heating 1. Data science graphics 2. Computer networking 3. Cloud computing ~ Need graphics equivalent to 3070TI or better ~ Need performance nearly same or better than 12700H ~Need large screen size I need bit better battery life as I travel.. average battery life would do.
Hello guys! I have a choice to make. There are 2 laptops that have the exact same specs, other than the GPU/CPU choice. The laptop is a Lenovo Legion 7, with 32GB ram, 1TB storage. Model is 2022 version. First choice is i7 12800H with 3070 TI 8 GB. Second choice is ryzen 9 6900HX with 6850M XT 12GB. Price difference is way too small to take into consideration. Which one would you guys choose?
It depends If you're after DLSS or Ray Tracing stuff and utilize the advantage that Nvidia has to offer in content creation tools then the first otherwise, AMD might be a compelling option ( AMD laptops has way longer battery life compared to Intel ones and have better performance on battery ) I would go with Nvidia tho
What's best laptop under 2500-2600 USD for 3-4 year of reliable heavy use ~~~Best thermals and no heating 1. Data science graphics 2. Computer networking 3. Cloud computing ~ Need graphics equivalent to 3070TI or better ~ Need performance nearly same or better than 12700H ~Need large screen size I need bit better battery life as I travel.. average battery life would do.
Just ordered this laptop. I also bought a Samsung - Odyssey G6 27” Curved QHD FreeSync Premium Pro Smart 240Hz 1ms Gaming Monitor with HDR600 (DisplayPort, HDMI, USB 3.0) for it. Can you recommend a lighted keyboard for this setup?
Do you have any upcoming AMD 7040 HS reviews? Really interested in the performance vs HX as well as battery life. My ideal laptop would be a 7040HS + 4060. Cheap and more or less powerful enough. Would likely run cool too because of HS and NVIDIA's shitty 100W "sweet spot" voltage limit.
What's best laptop under 2500-2600 USD for 3-4 year of reliable heavy use ~~~Best thermals and no heating 1. Data science graphics 2. Computer networking 3. Cloud computing ~ Need graphics equivalent to 3070TI or better ~ Need performance nearly same or better than 12700H ~Need large screen size I need bit better battery life as I travel.. average battery life would do.
Do you have any video discussing the best >17" budget laptop? A friend is looking for one for her old man, and I figure a large bright screen might be a priority for an old person. It will no be carried around and it will only be used for surfing the web, e-mail, paying the bills and such i.e. it doesn't need to be light, small or powerful.
Quiet idle fans Fan settings MSI Center Features Tab, User Scenario Go to the Extreme Box, click on settings cog Select the advanced box Fan Speed Tab on Fan 1 drag 2nd circle from left or 2nd highest circle down to about 36% On Fan 2 set about 43% On Fan 2 raise 1st on far left to about 12% Then save At ambient room about 70deg the CPU temp should drop from 120deg to 113deg Fan 2 should be spun up a bit from previous zero, Fan 1 should drop to about 2100 and much quieter Basically Fan 1 is spinning all the time too high, so slow it down and run both. Fan 2 wasn’t even running at idle. It should now run 500-1200 at idle and much quieter
Hi Jarrod I love your reviews. Could you please make a video on how to handle those screen freeze issues occuring on rtx 40 series laptops. I know we have a reddit thread. But i guess we do not have a solution till now. Could to check further and try to help out with a temporary work around? Thank you
I don't have an answer for these issues. I don't have a work around so there is no real point in making a video on it. That being said, we also haven't experienced the issue on quite a few of the recent laptops we've tested, so it may be resolved but hasn't officially been confirmed as fixed.
@@JarrodsTech thank you sir for the response. Actually I bought a new one (Acer Predator Helios 16) and it started showing this issue. I have re-installed the OS and have installed an older version of GPU driver as instructed in reddit thread. Keeping this under observation. Fingers crossed It hits hard when we face issues after investing a lot of money in these laptops. Thank you and keep up the good work 😊
What's best laptop under 2500-2600 USD for 3-4 year of reliable heavy use ~~~Best thermals and no heating 1. Data science graphics 2. Computer networking 3. Cloud computing ~ Need graphics equivalent to 3070TI or better ~ Need performance nearly same or better than 12700H ~Need large screen size I need bit better battery life as I travel.. average battery life would do.
How's the screen color acuracy? There's a 2560x1600 ips varient as well With 4090 rtx for 3000 euro. I'm considering this or the titan with the mini led as I need a color acurate display. Preferably with no light bleed and good contrast.
Lmao every Jarrod video is titled "this laptop has a problem" this year.
It's because they have a problem 💯
And the problem is most likely Nvidia
@@IdentifiantE.S A problem would be your laptop not turning on. Being loud or having less USB isn’t a problem if that’s the design. They are not advertising 3 USB and a dead silent laptop. You kids are so dramatic about everything lol
@@aimanshamsol2402 Not just Nvidia but the OEM aswell downgrading their products like this
I am quite sure that having issues with hardware getting too much voltage like the VRM is quite more important than not having a “better feature”.
I just got myself INSANE Deal for new Asus zephyrus G15 with 4k 120hz , 6800HS and 3080 only for only 1 226,79 $ from normal 2 584,27 $ price. Most luckiest purchase in my life.
Holy.....
@@rajyavardhansingh4491Moly 😂
Those temps and CB scores for a 16" are INSANELY good. There was headroom to let the clock speeds be higher when GPU loaded, say another 20W to bump those speeds to around 3.7ghz but they must have been closer to 4.4 in Cinebench. I am not sure why when a CPU in 70's it is being limited so harshly though.
This one is close, if it had G-Sync and at least a 4080 I'd get it. Even the top model maxes out at 4070 unfortunately. I think that's a miss for sure.
just ordered the ge68hx with the 4090! excited to finally upgrade from my very old 970m ghost gs60! haha
The fact that this laptop can't even get 4080 or 4090 GPUs in this thick chassis is ridiculous...
Its motherboard is restricted. Not the chasis.
@@272flashlites Source? Because this sounds highly unplausible.
They are now available with 4090 GPU's.
The 4070 being slower than the 3070ti from last year @1440p in almost every game is kinda hilarious ngl 😂
What's best laptop under 2500-2600 USD for 3-4 year of reliable heavy use
~~~Best thermals and no heating
1. Data science graphics
2. Computer networking
3. Cloud computing
~ Need graphics equivalent to 3070TI or better
~ Need performance nearly same or better than 12700H
~Need large screen size
I need bit better battery life as I travel.. average battery life would do.
@Shiv Find a laptop with the vacuum chamber cooling, and with the "best" thermal paste applied to both GPU & CPU ( usually most gaming laptop manufacturer will let you know which Thermal paste brand do they use ). And more internal fan is better
I would advise it better to spend big now and reap the benefits later on, rather than spend small and try to compensate for your laptop weakness with time-consuming tweaks and such, especially with the cooling because even with the best cooling pad and with a room temperature of ~20 C, it can only reduce at most about 5C if you are really doing heavy work on your laptop
4070’way better than 3070😂😂😂😂😂😂
I got the version with 32gb ram, 4060 and 13950hx. My god this cpu is a beast. Far cry 6 at high settings 1080p 144hz gets around 100-120fps. It's big, and heavy, but on silent mode it still perfoms spectacular without making noise. I am so happy i bought this laptop. No issues with screenbleeding, i feel like i got a prime product.
4060 is okay? Everyone seems to be shitting on it
Its a bad buy if u already got a 3060 stationary. but i had a 2060 laptop and needed more CPU power as well, so got this MSI laptop. the 4060 handles any game i throw at it. cs2 runs at locked 144fps with 0 dips. played icarus on it as well without issue. @@carnivorous_vegan
@@TheGtoXedthanks for reply
@@carnivorous_vegan I don't see the reply?
its a pity they removed the huge trackpad from the CES prototypes... As Matt Moniz would say, the sticker industry is too strong
I think that I've seen the special trackpad in a separate model online. You'd probably have to buy the special model to get it.
Edit: NVM, I'm dumb, I was thinking of the GE78
What's best laptop under 2500-2600 USD for 3-4 year of reliable heavy use
~~~Best thermals and no heating
1. Data science graphics
2. Computer networking
3. Cloud computing
~ Need graphics equivalent to 3070TI or better
~ Need performance nearly same or better than 12700H
~Need large screen size
I need bit better battery life as I travel.. average battery life would do.
Great review. I would definitely consider the 3070 ti models considering the similar performance
What's best laptop under 2500-2600 USD for 3-4 year of reliable heavy use
~~~Best thermals and no heating
1. Data science graphics
2. Computer networking
3. Cloud computing
~ Need graphics equivalent to 3070TI or better
~ Need performance nearly same or better than 12700H
~Need large screen size
I need bit better battery life as I travel.. average battery life would do.
Oh, it's amazing to see laptop like this for Gaming and 3D Rendering. In fact, Asus and MSI are really competing for the best gaming laptop in the world and for me these two brands are really powerful for gaming.
REPUBLIC OF GAMERS!
0:19 “But of course that’s subjective, and I’m an old man.” Classic. And, relatable. Thank you for a great review. Of course, that’s subjective.
The arrow keys are awesome for looking like DDR arrows!
Is this the funeral of the QHD 240 Hz OLED panel? Damn, I just want a 4k 120 Hz OLED for perfect 1080p scaling or at least the last year's 240 Hz panel with an RTX 4000. Paying $2k for GE67HX with 3070Ti and no G-Sync (no adaptive sync either) just stings.
There's no high refresh rate 16 : 10 OLED panel afaik.
Yes
Ge67hx was my favourite laptop for its screen and sadly the main highlight is gone
R.I.P OLED
What's best laptop under 2500-2600 USD for 3-4 year of reliable heavy use
~~~Best thermals and no heating
1. Data science graphics
2. Computer networking
3. Cloud computing
~ Need graphics equivalent to 3070TI or better
~ Need performance nearly same or better than 12700H
~Need large screen size
I need bit better battery life as I travel.. average battery life would do.
A downgrade compared to the GE 67 HX as it's an LCD screen not an Oled screen, no top tier GPU options either and pricing is a joke.
nvidia is a joke thats what. Radeon is priced hella better on laptops. tho we don't have our high end parts yet. probably wont
@@bionicseaserpent Some countries don't even have full AMD laptops. And if they're being sold, there are 10-20 different references with Nvidia GPUs against a single laptop reference with AMD GPU. And in these cases, AMD is often priced worse by quite a lot. (right now, i could get a Ryzen 9 7940HS+4070 laptop for 1900€ and the 7940HS+7600S is also 1900€ while performing slightly worse than the 4060 Mobile)
@@rinsenpai135 where are you seeing 1900€ 7940hs 4070 laptops... Only the tuf a15 but that's for 1500 and the screen is kinda terrible, besides that I don't know where you're buying a 7000 CPU with a 4070 for that price and the 7000 CPU with the 7600 GPU is 1300 where I live...
What's best laptop under 2500-2600 USD for 3-4 year of reliable heavy use
~~~Best thermals and no heating
1. Data science graphics
2. Computer networking
3. Cloud computing
~ Need graphics equivalent to 3070TI or better
~ Need performance nearly same or better than 12700H
~Need large screen size
I need bit better battery life as I travel.. average battery life would do.
Seems like a great laptop but probably worth waiting 9 months for it to be on sale for $1800.
Just bought one at Costco for $1599 🔥
@@lifewithmyclone damn what really?! Edit: sweet yeah see the 4070 one is down to 1950 too.
@@lifewithmycloneme too
@@manonanisland88where??
@@lifewithmyclone I’m thinking about getting it. Is it worth and how’s the battery life
The 4080 laptops are such a massive leap over these in performance. I have a gt77 titan with one and its great with great temps, but if I had a lower budget I would still get a cheaper 4080 model over this
Def. 4070 laptops are really not worth it unless the specific laptop has features that are extremely valuable to you.
What's best laptop under 2500-2600 USD for 3-4 year of reliable heavy use
~~~Best thermals and no heating
1. Data science graphics
2. Computer networking
3. Cloud computing
~ Need graphics equivalent to 3070TI or better
~ Need performance nearly same or better than 12700H
~Need large screen size
I need bit better battery life as I travel.. average battery life would do.
Which model is that??
@@Samdevaythis one.
This model seems to be part of Costco's gaming pc sale for $1599 - at that price does it become a no brainer over the Legion Pro i7 4080 (2023) at $2,299? But what about the GE68 4060 at $1,599 vs the Legion Pro 5i 16IRX8 4070 at $1,699?
It's $1499 at my Costco. At that price, it makes sense.
@@272flashliteslol, almost a year later and it's still listed at 1.399
the battery is actually impressive
Costco is advertising $1400. For basic gaming with Starfield and AC as my targets, this looks good. Was considering Asus Scar 17 but the reviews had concerns about the motherboard burning out.
Where at? They're selling them for $1,700 at my Costco
@@redbullsauberpetronas Offer starts 31st. Seriously leaning that way.
@@woodysmith2681 fuck awful timing for me, just bought a new GPU lol
@@redbullsauberpetronas Need an upgrade between what Windows 11 did to my old mid-range rig AND new games like Starfield, BG3, etc. coming out. Was deep in research mode and new Costco sales pamphlet came out...
@@woodysmith2681 ah well hopefully it works out for you, thanks for letting me know about the sale either way
I got this model at costco on sale for $1600, when i looked at other places online for it they were all several hundred dollars more expensive at least, so i got it since i've been using the same inspiron 15 7000 gaming laptop since 2016 and its got a cracked screen and keys that stick and i felt it was just time for a new one. i haven't opened it and started using it yet, but i think that i got a pretty good bang for my buck at least since online i can only find it for over $2000
bro its running at 1400 right now at costco
$1299 for black friday
I actually owned the GE78HX for all but a few days. Basically the bigger brother of this laptop.
Initial impressions were not great, the box it comes in is super basic compared to similar priced Asus models, but whatever.
The backlight bleed was instantly noticeable the second you turned the laptop on. Bottom right corner was glowing brighter than the rest. (many other reviewers had this issue)
And the screen included just seemed to have huge sync issues to the point every game had frametime issues but fps was fine. (no g-sync either so can't test if this would fix it)
MSI software/firmware is totally broken, the MSI centre feels extremely laggy and takes several seconds to respond to input, putting the laptop in anything over "Silent" mode caused performance to DROP.
Also the laptop would just generally freeze and lock up during regular use. The 4080 in it felt like a minor upgrade over the 2060 in my Lenovo.
Returned and cannot recommend MSI laptops to anyone.
Love the review as usual. Ever considered making a video on laptop maintenance and care?
Hey Jarrod, are you planning on reviewing the Omen 17 with the RTX4070 (or even any version of this year's Omen 17). I'm planning on buying something soon and the Omen 17 is the cheapest 4070 equipped laptop where I live and it comes at the same price as another laptop but with a 3070Ti.
GE66 Owner here and I have to say the new design is not as appealing to me due to it looking far more gamery now rather than subtle and sleek looks., otherwise great laptop!
Well three weeks ago July 01, 2023 got the 17.3" version QHD+ 240Hz Laptop, i9-13950HX, RTX 4070 (8GB), 32GB DDR5 (only 4000), 2TB NVMe SSD, Thunderbolt 4, USB-C, Win 11 Pro was the MSI 13VG-020US for $2099 with no taxes delivered. Is for Digital Audio could have used more ram but is all good. Witcher 3 and a few games still hold my interest. But saved $450 from above price and got an extra inch in screen size. The 4080 with 12GB was far more costly, and their highest end was nearly $2000 more with a 4090 with 16GB and 64GB RAM or go with a Titan.
typing this on my GE68 with an I9 13980HX and 4070, 2tb 16GB of RAM. Have been using it for a couple of months and I`m just so glad I bought it. the big centre placed touch pad + the numlock was a gamechanger for me as well has having the 16:10 screen. Was looking for a laptop with a centre placed macbook like touchpad + numlock, which is also able to run 99% games at good settings along with a lasting CPU for other purposes. This thing will definitely last me some years of quality computing :). A lenovo Legion would be my second choice, would probably be the best bang for your buck laptop for everyone else as well but I just had some personal preferences the GE68 Raider was more suited for.
Can it run all the maps on tarkov?
Thinking of getting one
selling at costco now for $1399. honestly i couldn't find any other laptop in that price range with 24 core processor
So i just bought this for $1,599 at costco. My old laptop was an HP with a disk so i could download movies and music. This is my first gaming laptop, i didn't really want too much as my first MSI and i don't expect much. Do you think this was a good pickup for me
I just bought mine for $1299 at costco
This is a suped-up Vector on the MS-15M1 motherboard. The BIOS updates that MSI sends out, they come with a Release Notes text file that says this BIOS update is for a Raider. It can sometimes be difficult finding truthful information about these laptops, and i think it's because they are basically the same laptop but the Raider gets upgraded parts for an extra $400-700. Even the listings on MSI's own product page are confusing, because it claims that a Vector GP68HX 13v is available with the top-of-the-line i9-13980HX (which has a special extra 20W boost) but I could never find one available. The Raider GE68HX does come with this CPU though and I think adding 20W of additional boost on top of all the other types if Intel boost, that should make some noticeably impressive power.
The most ridiculous thing I met with laptop from msi ge 66 2022 with 3070ti was availability of 2 type-c ports, but noone of both could be used for charging device. So type-c charge is privilege of way more expensive options. But one of type-c is thunderbolt 4
If one is thnderbolt 4 then technically it should support charging
@@I_killed_that_beard_guy no, i tried. It doesn't work. I even asked support. They said that my option doesn't support charging. There is no any information about charging through type-c on official site
@@ereviscale2606 then what's the purpose of thunderbolt port? Just ripping customers ?
@@I_killed_that_beard_guy so I think it is for connecting external GPU, external monitors, external high speed storage devices, because speed of data transfer is near 40 Gbite/sec
What's best laptop under 2500-2600 USD for 3-4 year of reliable heavy use
~~~Best thermals and no heating
1. Data science graphics
2. Computer networking
3. Cloud computing
~ Need graphics equivalent to 3070TI or better
~ Need performance nearly same or better than 12700H
~Need large screen size
I need bit better battery life as I travel.. average battery life would do.
I just got it for $1,599. Great deal ! Costco.
I bought mine for 1600 about 3 months after this video dropped. I think it's good as someone just getting into PC gaming
Is this good for Minecraft? I have been playing on a pc for a while and I don’t know too much about these specs
I'm seriously considering this laptop though, despite its flaws. Would be still an upgrade to my A16 from last year?
I have the slightly older GE 66 with a 12700H and 3070 Ti from earlier in 2022 than the GE 67 HX and I still think that the upgrade is not as good as it could be, especially when it comes to the GPU.
Yep, I'm definitely going with the rtx4090 variant. I have already made my mind since I saw it at ces 2023!!! Thanks you.
Ur not old man I'm old ur very smart and we love ur videos my brother god bless you and give you long life
Is it a good buy at 1400?
Hey Jarrod. Should alot of people be concerned with gaming recent demand hike in Vram? I say this because I'm concerned if laptops with like 6 gb of vram will become obsolete faster than expected, especially for those who got them more recently and want to play the newer big titles. 8 Vram is what most are expecting now but I'm scared devs might push 10 in the next couple of years. 8 is the expected minimum now. CPUs don't seem to be the bottleneck but the Vram might be. I also say this because I have a gen 7(2022) Legion 5 pro with rtx 3060. I meet the requirements for alot of games for CPU and ram but the minimum is 8 vram and I'm wondering if I could still play them at solid rates. Maybe higher TGP and wattage helps this but it's still crazy. I'm just concerned because the Vram needed in these new games are getting out of hand and it might be getting out of hand for people who need Vram and power in other areas aside from gaming as well. This could also apply for people still getting 3000 series laptops as well. Maybe this could be a video
This will be answered in an upcoming Q&A video with hardware unboxed on this channel.
@@JarrodsTech Fantastic to hear. Questions like that could definitely help a lot of people in terms of decision making and future considerations
i believe you have to lower the settings to match the Vram of gpu you have..
@@amirbahalegharn365 That makes sense. I'm still concerned because also PC ports have been having a really hard time for the last half a year minimum
@@Solokid404 if anyone has the budget to pay for 12gbb vram or more graphic with same performance, he-she should buy it but if it's not affordable for them to buy, hey must accept whatever card is within their budget & lower their settings. intel graphics seems playable after driver updates according to the last video of linustechtips which has 12gb vram. 2nd hand hardware with vram over 12gb must also be considered for those users to let them be more future proof..
Costco has this on sale for US$1,299 for Black Friday - MSI GE68HX Raider 16" Gaming Laptop - 13th Gen Intel Core i9-13950HX - GeForce RTX 4060 - 144HZ FHD+ (1920 x 1200)
Not incredible for 4060 tier performance, but also not bad given all the other extras and how this compares to others.
What's best laptop under 2500-2600 USD for 3-4 year of reliable heavy use
~~~Best thermals and no heating
1. Data science graphics
2. Computer networking
3. Cloud computing
~ Need graphics equivalent to 3070TI or better
~ Need performance nearly same or better than 12700H
~Need large screen size
I need bit better battery life as I travel.. average battery life would do.
Please check if there is dsr option in the Nvidia control panel. It seems that laptops equipped with 40 series graphics cards do not have dsr option.
Just bought mine today from Costco...Will update soon on the performance issues. Also plan to use it for Work applications apart from Gaming..
update ?? @ravluthra :) i am considring to buy it and I would love to have your feedback
Thank you so much in advance
Nvidia 40 series has some large issues (burning cables, death by Hogwarts, low mobile performance) in general, but then their extremely expensive. I Would wait for the Ti and see if they could improve. Or maybe RDN3 or RDN4 is much better?
Only 4070 below are not great in performance, though. 4080 and 4090 laptop gpu are generational improvement from ampere.
3090 and 3080 desktop card performance are insane TbH.
"Low mobile performance" should be read as "dishonest mobile part naming". Every single mobile part is based on the desktop part a tier below it's name. Therefore, the laptop 4090 is really an 4080, the laptop 4080 is really a 4070, and the laptop 4070 is really a 4060. This has the unfortunate side effect of meaning that the lowest tier mobile part which actually has enough VRAM for modern games at 1440p is the very expensive "4080"
@@madcrowmaxwell absolutely agree, this is just dishonesty for the sake to fuck the customers.
3060 laptop was 20% slower than it's desktop counterpart, which meant they actually can name it right. but no..
they can't fill desktop tier 3090 so they stretch the GPUs which should've been tier below to fill that TOTL which they can't engineered or physicly impossible to make.
What's best laptop under 2500-2600 USD for 3-4 year of reliable heavy use
~~~Best thermals and no heating
1. Data science graphics
2. Computer networking
3. Cloud computing
~ Need graphics equivalent to 3070TI or better
~ Need performance nearly same or better than 12700H
~Need large screen size
I need bit better battery life as I travel.. average battery life would do.
@Jarrod'sTech will there be a Ge78 HX review ?
Haha, those arrow keys look like they were lifted from a DDR home dance mat
Asus tuf a15 2023 or f15 2023 when. 😊
is there any affordable laptop people don't have a problem with? Console gaming just seems so much more simple and a higher value proposition
There will always be compromises with cheaper laptops. You just need to decide what is important to you and buy something that meets your needs the best. Console is definitely more simple, but a laptop is more useful overall if you want to do more than gaming.
Hey Jarrod,
So Can I prefer to buy this laptop despite being the price?(or)
Do I need to switch to any other alternative?
Please tell me about the fan noise Iam Concerned about it.
Will it be loud when playing games??
😢
I feel like when I'm looking for a "gaming laptop" I've become more interested in the battery life of the laptop during gaming sessions. I wonder why this laptop is relatively more energy efficient with respect to gaming than in simple tasks compared to other laptops.
I have the 2022 G14 and is kinda disappointed that i cannot game longer than 1hr on battery...
seeing as how games run like shit when laptops are unplugged, wondering why you would be concerned with battery life while gaming
I agree,you got to be stupid if you want to game on battery lol
Gaming laptop battery is more like a UPS and a "let me play a quick game while waiting on someone". My current laptop lasts less than an hour and that's ok.
I never game on battery lol only a power source
Nvidia and their 4000 series GPUs managed to make every laptop manufacturer downgrade their products.
What happend to the great days of having 4 usbs in a laptop
I got a "deal" on an acer adaptive sync 240hz monitor a few years ago and whadia know it's because it's the "old displayport" that doesn't work on anything this year. lol.
Love your videos
is there a big difference between the raider ge68hx 4090 and the raider ge78hx when it comes to cooling?
Is it only me who feels, reviewers are making videos for higher end laptops ,wayyyyy more, this year.
Entry level and mid range laptops are like non existent.
It's because all of the entry level laptops are priced way higher so they don't even feel like entry level products anymore.
Pls cover some thin & light laptops with AMD APUs & no dGPU also!
Jarrod you forgot to check if the other m.2 slot can support double sided SSDs!
Honstly I haven't bought a laptop in a while. Whats a good recommendation
Wtf only 2 USBs...
That's what she said
USB hubs exist
4070 for $2600?!?! Setting aside 4070 should really be the 60 class, that's INSANE. Really hope consumers punt on this generation. Also pairing an HX processor with a "4070" makes little to no sense but hey, maybe some dumb people are buying these.
Most people do little-to-no research before buying a computer/GPU and purchase based off name or sales pitch (if bought in-store).
it’s annoying how laptop manufacturers pair powerful cpus with crappy gpus like i9 + 4050/60, we need more laptops with i5/R5 with 4070/80
What's best laptop under 2500-2600 USD for 3-4 year of reliable heavy use
~~~Best thermals and no heating
1. Data science graphics
2. Computer networking
3. Cloud computing
~ Need graphics equivalent to 3070TI or better
~ Need performance nearly same or better than 12700H
~Need large screen size
I need bit better battery life as I travel.. average battery life would do.
@@slylockfox85 What's best laptop under 2500-2600 USD for 3-4 year of reliable heavy use
~~~Best thermals and no heating
1. Data science graphics
2. Computer networking
3. Cloud computing
~ Need graphics equivalent to 3070TI or better
~ Need performance nearly same or better than 12700H
~Need large screen size
I need bit better battery life as I travel.. average battery life would do.
@@Samdevay Microcenter has HP Omen for $1200. 17 inch QHD IPS screen. RTX 3070 TI, 12700H processor, 720p camera, WIFI 6E, 512 GB SSD
Beautifulest laptop I’ve ever seen 🔥🔥
Is Lenovo legion pro 5i good? because I always see it at the bottom
Laptop specifications:
Rtx 4060 8GB- I7 13700HX - 32 G RAM - 240HZ
Hello guys! I have a choice to make. There are 2 laptops that have the exact same specs, other than the GPU/CPU choice.
The laptop is a Lenovo Legion 7, with 32GB ram, 1TB storage. Model is 2022 version.
First choice is i7 12800H with 3070 TI 8 GB.
Second choice is ryzen 9 6900HX with 6850M XT 12GB.
Price difference is way too small to take into consideration.
Which one would you guys choose?
It depends
If you're after DLSS or Ray Tracing stuff and utilize the advantage that Nvidia has to offer in content creation tools then the first
otherwise, AMD might be a compelling option ( AMD laptops has way longer battery life compared to Intel ones and have better performance on battery )
I would go with Nvidia tho
I honestly wonder what Nvidia was smoking when they put that 100 watt voltage limit on the 4060 and 4070 on laptops
The sweet spot is actually 90 watts for these mobile GPU’s. Adding 50 watts doesn’t do much for extra performance.
@@andrewmorris3479 That's not because its the sweet spot. Its because of the voltage limit itself.
@@vik1ng313 why there's different wattage if there's a voltage limit?
What's best laptop under 2500-2600 USD for 3-4 year of reliable heavy use
~~~Best thermals and no heating
1. Data science graphics
2. Computer networking
3. Cloud computing
~ Need graphics equivalent to 3070TI or better
~ Need performance nearly same or better than 12700H
~Need large screen size
I need bit better battery life as I travel.. average battery life would do.
4060 and 4070 cards do not scale over 100W so there's no point...
Jarrod is correct, those individual LED lights look like cheap crap! I have the GE66 Raider and the large RGB strip panel is a much nicer effect.
Just ordered this laptop. I also bought a Samsung - Odyssey G6 27” Curved QHD FreeSync Premium Pro Smart 240Hz 1ms Gaming Monitor with HDR600 (DisplayPort, HDMI, USB 3.0) for it.
Can you recommend a lighted keyboard for this setup?
Do you have any upcoming AMD 7040 HS reviews? Really interested in the performance vs HX as well as battery life.
My ideal laptop would be a 7040HS + 4060. Cheap and more or less powerful enough. Would likely run cool too because of HS and NVIDIA's shitty 100W "sweet spot" voltage limit.
Still haven't got any :(
What's best laptop under 2500-2600 USD for 3-4 year of reliable heavy use
~~~Best thermals and no heating
1. Data science graphics
2. Computer networking
3. Cloud computing
~ Need graphics equivalent to 3070TI or better
~ Need performance nearly same or better than 12700H
~Need large screen size
I need bit better battery life as I travel.. average battery life would do.
@@Samdevaylegion pro 7i
imagine a RTX 40 series laptop that doesn't have a price problem
I'm waiting for you to review the MSI Vector GP68HX with 4080 + i9-12900HX + QHD 240Hz
I bought a MSI GE76 for $1,100.00, I would wait for a better version for the new 4000 series to switch.
how it can have problem, if it have RGB?
Do you have any video discussing the best >17" budget laptop? A friend is looking for one for her old man, and I figure a large bright screen might be a priority for an old person. It will no be carried around and it will only be used for surfing the web, e-mail, paying the bills and such i.e. it doesn't need to be light, small or powerful.
OUCH so like 20% more cost for same performance AND no OLED?
Will I get a better response time if I plug this laptop into a oled monitor ?
Waiting for stealth 16 studio
Hi Jarrod please do Helios 16. Thank you very much.
No wonder Tim from HUB doesn't review laptops anymore.
This laptop is like $1700 at Costco which is a fair deal.
Why you not testing cpu with 4.500+ Ghz? Just 3.5 max Ghz? That obvious temps will be lower
I'm reporting what ever it runs at with the CPU/GPU competing for max performance. The CPU power limit isn't high enough to go higher.
@@JarrodsTech what hdmi is that rgb one you used?
the Razer Balde 15 is heavily discounted right now. It costs 1900€ for the i7 3070ti 244hz version do you think it is a good deal?
The laptop keyboard LEDs look greenish when set to white. Is it normal or is it an issue? I just bought it an hour ago It's totally brand new
have the BIOS update BRICCK the laptop problem been fix yet ???
Hey Jarrod love your content. Can you add the Canadian laptop deals on your website. Love from Bangladesh
Why no benchmarks in games for it's native 4K resolution?
Quiet idle fans
Fan settings MSI Center
Features Tab, User Scenario
Go to the Extreme Box, click on settings cog
Select the advanced box
Fan Speed Tab
on Fan 1 drag 2nd circle from left or 2nd highest circle down to about 36%
On Fan 2 set about 43%
On Fan 2 raise 1st on far left to about 12%
Then save
At ambient room about 70deg the CPU temp should drop from 120deg to 113deg
Fan 2 should be spun up a bit from previous zero, Fan 1 should drop to about 2100 and much quieter
Basically Fan 1 is spinning all the time too high, so slow it down and run both.
Fan 2 wasn’t even running at idle. It should now run 500-1200 at idle and much quieter
Hi Jarrod
I love your reviews.
Could you please make a video on how to handle those screen freeze issues occuring on rtx 40 series laptops. I know we have a reddit thread.
But i guess we do not have a solution till now. Could to check further and try to help out with a temporary work around?
Thank you
I don't have an answer for these issues. I don't have a work around so there is no real point in making a video on it. That being said, we also haven't experienced the issue on quite a few of the recent laptops we've tested, so it may be resolved but hasn't officially been confirmed as fixed.
@@JarrodsTech thank you sir for the response. Actually I bought a new one (Acer Predator Helios 16) and it started showing this issue. I have re-installed the OS and have installed an older version of GPU driver as instructed in reddit thread. Keeping this under observation. Fingers crossed
It hits hard when we face issues after investing a lot of money in these laptops.
Thank you and keep up the good work 😊
What's best laptop under 2500-2600 USD for 3-4 year of reliable heavy use
~~~Best thermals and no heating
1. Data science graphics
2. Computer networking
3. Cloud computing
~ Need graphics equivalent to 3070TI or better
~ Need performance nearly same or better than 12700H
~Need large screen size
I need bit better battery life as I travel.. average battery life would do.
How's the screen color acuracy? There's a 2560x1600 ips varient as well With 4090 rtx for 3000 euro.
I'm considering this or the titan with the mini led as I need a color acurate display. Preferably with no light bleed and good contrast.
RIP 240hz OLED. I'll hang on to my ge67hx for now.
adobe premier score is 1461 here but 937 in your website or in your legion 9i review video?
Would this notebook be overkill for 4k to 6k video editing?
Can we easily run premiere Pro after effect with 4k60fps video editing without any lags or anyproccessing issue plz reply. Love ❤from India 🇮🇳
$1399 at costco 9-04-2023 is it worth it?
Please switch to 18:9 aspect ratio
Hey, Guys I searching for best value for money laptop under 1000$ can you please help me out [ acer nitro 5 rtx 4050 is not available in my country ]
No plans on a 5800x3d in 2023 vs 5900x benchmark?please
msi ge 68 vs gp68, which better in term of valuable
Nice review, hope to see msi studio 16 4070 144hz. Thanks ❤
pls review rog flow x16 2023❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Vector GP68 HX I wonder if you have a chance to review this model soon?
5:05 yo Jarrod, whats the green square with some kind of chipset on it thats in between the RAM slots and the SSD slots??