'MSP Applies to Only 10% of Agri Households; Hike Farmers Want Will Raise Food Inflation By 25-30%'
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In a 40-minute interview to Karan Thapar for The Wire, Prof. Ashok Gulati, who is the Infosys Professor for Agriculture at ICRIER and former Chairman of the Commission for Agricultural Costs and Prices, pointed out that high-flying sectors of Indian agriculture like poultry, growing at 8-9%, fisheries, growing at 7-8%, and milk, growing at 5-6%, do not depend upon any MSP regime at all.
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Still now prices of rice wheat pulses never collapsed it only increased . The increased price never reached farmers. only middle men is benefited.
Don't sell to middle men
@@Manish_Kumar_Singh 3 Farm laws were for that. Farmers selling directly to whosoever they like even to companies like Reliance. Big farmers never wanted 3 farm laws as they are the biggest middle men. They buy from small farmers at cheap rate and then sell to govt. Thats why they want higher MSP. 90% of money will go to these big farmers.
I come from eastern UP, our small farmer are more diversify than these druggist. Apart from wheat, rice etc, they also do horticulture like Genda (marigold) flower, roses, milk production etc . That's why there is no support for this protest in those area.
@@jikaul then allow farmers to sell to whoever they want either within border or outside border, not just to Adani
This not fully correct , in 2010 the groundnuts in apmc mandi is purchased at price of 26-32R/kg, but now its 53-60R/kg
Its means its totaly going to farmer
Where was consumer protection when petrol prices have been maintained very high?
Congress govt is waste
Good that govt could keep the oil price constant....and oil price across world gone up in same ratio except few oil producing counties 😅
Gulati's extrapolation that if this will happen , then this will happen and so on...eventually it will lead to a catastrophe . Shrinking of demand IS NOT same as COLLAPSE of demand to zero. Even at a very high price of tomato , it's demand did not shrink to zero. His estimate is totally SKEWED .
Said a world famous expert on agricultural economics.... Wow 😮
WOW ! I did not know Experts do not have to adhere to logic ! And if they are talking something so abstruse that people with no background knowledge of economics can understand , why bother to talk to common folks through an interview mediated by a interviewer who himself is not an expert ! Blind faith in experts - that's religion . Not economics .
That’s precisely the problem…. With MSP you’re incentivising employment of more resources, thus increasing the cost of procurement and raising the prices of food grains…. If profits are guaranteed, more and more people will be dependent on agriculture with attendant consequences…. Just think it through
If dal imported from Canada is less expensive than dal grown by a farmer 100 km away. MSP is not going to solve the issue. We need to increase efficiency not force consumers to pay more for less.
What a contradiction!!
In the beginning we hear him say that these 23 crops make up to 28% of the total farm produce, and then while giving the inflation impact he says prices go up by 25-30%. Agreed, but will that translate to overall inflation? What is the proportional impact of prices of these 23 crops in calculating the inflation numbers??
Overall, inflation will increase. Check the food basket that constitutes CPI.
You are just like bhakts but on opposite sides. Don't outsource ur brain to ur ideology.
He said inflation will increase by 1.5-2% taking it further away from the range govt./RBI is comfortable with.
Central govt banned export of Onion and farmers in Mah compelled to sell then at Rs. 1 per kg. While Pakistan got 1000 ti 2000 Rs. Per kg.
This professor is supporting the current government decisions for PM kishan yogna, Contract farming and not supporting MSP. The primary consideration should be the overall interest of all citizens regardless farmers or not.
I live here in England. I cultivate strawberries here. Very heavy subsidy is given on this.
do the govt precures for higher then international price
Surely, you live free of cost.
same in India, I hv 5 acre Guava faming in Eastern UP. We got free plant, money for fencing, subsidized drip irrigation system etc. Problem with Sikh farmer is that they don't want to diversify themselves. They are still sticking with regular crops.
@@swamiparmanandhcc8185 There's nothing to do if you can simply abuse Modi, and demand that everybody else serve you.
In UK, U hv to pay taxes for farming, rural houses, no free electricity or highly subsidized like in India. 😇
Great interview. Now we need to follow it up through the solution. Indians fail at the process stage, we know what we want, we know how it can be achieved, but the process and the middleman kill it everytime.
The Govt is to be blamed for that.
why not abolish msp ? What will happen if we abolished MSP
The Govt agreed to MSP with the farm laws; they knew very well that MSP be given to the corporate buddies.
Currently, the government fixes MSP on 23 crops at its own discretion. This very MSP should be made legally binding, and anyone who violates it should be punished as per this law. If we can have a punishable law for MRP of tooth paste, why not wheat?
because we don't want to get bankrupt like in 1991.
India is a federal system,what a joke.
Mr. Karan Thapar when are u going to take interview of any MLA or CSO of kuki after burning down the Mini Secretariat of Churchandpur, Manipur?
Check report of MS Swaminathan.
THE PROBLEM IS MODI-ADANI MAFIA : WE HAVE ONLY LOOTERS HELPED BY PEOPLE LIKE GULATI GONE EXTREMELY SENILE !
Thank you for making us grasp, what the farmers grasp by default
If there's one thing we have learnt, it is to not trust Modi and his govt
Future market of many crop like mustard are ban by govt of india,and export of wheat and rice is ban ,how can gulati say it
Nice to hear Mr Ashok Gulati. Highly informative.
Why not farmers make co operative society and create their own company and remove all middle man from market.
This is a good idea but the problem is people only. People themselves will cheat farmers.
when you can get lot of things free, why to take this headache ?
Why can government do that ? Buy from farmers and sell in Middle East. Mostly pure and least educated farmers can’t directly sell to consumers
Jeera is 800rs Garlic 400rs can anyone tell is this money going to farmer's or middle men who buy the farmer's products for lower price and selling for high price
Because of that 3 farm laws are given by sarkar but, they are also brought back by government due to farmer protest... This are not farmers they are owner of Mandi they are middle mans , and they are protesting...
Go buy from farmers directly
Do you mean to say Delhi people go to Punjab farms and buy vegetables for daily consumptions? The cost for petrol etcetera doesn’t add up. These are farmers protesting. Go and meet them.
@@mukeshpurohit9988English nai bol pa Raha toh kyun bol raha hai?
Tu Gaya tha protest me ?
Tera kya source hai ?
Modi ne toh unko farmers bola tha toh tu kahan se laya kahani bina proof ke?
@@anujsethi7845 tune read kiye the 3 farm laws , pahele read karle... Tab pata chalega ... Is me source ki bat nahi hai thodi bahot reading chahiye...
Sir this interview is beyond understanding as it predicts that after Swaminathan report implementation tge inflation may rise to 20 to 25 percent. Which is offcourse is fearful because our total economy may be affected.
But there are certain questions remain unanswered as
Already we have very serious inflation without implementation of Swaminathan scheme,our all household prices are already risen more than 25 percent as like domestic gas, petrol,diesel ,vegitabkes ,fruits etc in comparison to prior 2014. Then how do we take Gilati ji report,does he has reason and points to indicate that without implementation of Swaminathan report ,why inflation is so so high
Second we are giving already very high relaxation in loans,tax etc to corporates then how is our country is affording such high facilities to corporates in terms of loans,tax wavier etc etc.
Despite so much facilities to corporate people why our economy in very poor ,rate of unemployment rise is very serious,and manufacturing section growth is almost in very very poor state. Further why inflation ,infrastructure of health and education is extremely poor stage now.
We expect mr karan thapar ji to raise such questions to Mr Gulati and find the answer as why today our economy in poor stage without implementation of Swaminathan report. As how he is calculating 25 percent rise after implementation.
He didn't mean to say inflation will rise by 25%. He said the budgeted costs for that particular activity would have risen by 25% (both for the govt. and also the ordinary household), and therefore household food costs will rise by that much; if you look at how the CPI is calculated you will understand. I think you should listen to it again and do your arithmetic. I think you need to study a course of basic economics to understand how these things work.
"Prof" Ashok Gulati is a lead spokesperson for agriculture corporations. If MSP leads to inflation, so does GST on essential items such as milk and other groceries, as well as dearness allowance being paid to pensioners (these include legislators, bureaucrats and military veterans) and government servants--let's begin with all of them and see how much inflation comes down by. The only solution to such nonsensical arithmetic is for farmers to STOP growing foodgrains for us. Only when we import at high prices will we know the true cost of farming and real inflations
GST on fresh food and milk items is ZERO dumba*s.. How many years are you people going to do propaganda on GST ?
To help farmers to increase their income they should be allowed to sell their produce directly to the consumers by putting up farmer markets in every town just like in Europe & US where farmers bring out their farm products & sell directly to the consumer.This step will avoid the involvement of middle men who take away the lion's share
Is that same what modi said? 😂😂 Sell where you want 😂😂😂
pagal hai kya? (in Asneer’s voice). which European or US city have you been to that has farmer’s market that sells crops or produce at large scale? Please enlighten us.
Farmers don't want to come to you with their fresh produce so you can buy 2 kgs of onions from them. What are you? delusional?
in the US farmer's market don't account for even 0.01 percent of the total produce sold. US mostly has contract farming. The big corporate houses go into a contract with the farmers to produce a particular crop when they then buy.
India is not as big as the US compared with land area.We have several towns located close to agriculture fields.Some produce especially perishable fruits & vegetables can be sold directly to the residents.Even a small step in this direction will make some difference to the farmer's income avoiding the role of a middleman
For those commenting from abroad you will be shocked to know that farmers in punjab are paid rs2 for a kilo of orange fruit.Tomatoes also rs 2 per kg.That is why farmers in India are unhappy.Setting up farmer markets in towns & every neighbourhood would help the farmer raise his income
26:22 dear sir punjab farmers also switched to growing oranges (kinnow) and do you know how much they got Rs4-6 per kg.. Jo oranges tum 60 rs per kg khareedte ho reliance fresh se farmers ko per kg uska 4 rs hi mila... punjab haryana farmers ne gusse mein aak apne hi oranges pe massive scale pe tractor chala diya.. a crop is like a child of a farmers .. Dear Gulati sir , kabhi kheton mein jaake dekho kitna mushkil hota hai,4am paani lagate hn itni thand mein north ki .. aapke piche lagi Green sceen pe foto nakli hai JESE AAP KHUD NAKLI AUR USELESS HO!
Even my father who is a farmer do the same with vegetables. We throw tractor full Vegetables if they don’t sell.
The solution is that we should be allowed to sell whoever and whenever instead of forces to going to Mandi in daily basis.
We need farming where buyer can give us advance when crop is still sowing. We should have contract with buyers who have cold storage.
The problem is that there is no developed market.
We need freedom to sell whoever and whenever. Not to be forced to sell to Only Mandi that too only daily basis.
A wholesaler should be able to directly buy from buyer, in advance so that farmer knows his crop is sold even before sowing.
Trust deficit between Sikh Khalistan i druggist, alcoholic farmer and current Govt is due to people like Karan Thapar who work day and night how to destabilize govt.
And here we have someone whose mind is filled with hateful propaganda. The media truly has succeeded in delivering what it’s master wanted to.
You should interview Mr. Devinder Sharma (agricultural scientist) next.
Karan Thapar gave undue importance to Ashok Gulati during the previous Farmer's protest-2021 also. Ashok Gulati is known to be part of the architect of 3 black laws in the interest of oligarchs. All his answers can be challenged easily. Karan Thapar should further provide clarification by interviewing P Sainath, Devendra Sharma, or the Farmers' Leader and ask the same concerns. Otherwise, this interview would be seen as one-sided to promote Govt angle.
Yeh , Gulati , dukandar log kiya jane , kissano ki mushkilen ?
Yeh dukandar , studio mein beth kar , Khattar dukandar, police ko zulam karne ka hukam de kar anand vibhor ho rahe hein .
Thank you for this eye opening talk by prof Gulati ... th govt and opposition leaders should be made aware
Only rich farmers and businessesmen with crop fields wants MSP.
Somehow I feel like Mr Gulati is government’s spokesperson behind his agriculture credentials whatever he has.
Karan Thapar the real people who in the Universities tackle and solve realtime real life problems of farmers are the right people to be interviewed. But none of those people are ever called to such interview shows. Call Dr. Varinder Pal Singh, who had refused the award during the previous farmers agitation in the 2020-2021 to get even a partial view the problems the farmers face, because he was a Principal Soil scientist in PAU Ludhiana. He has since retired from PAU in December 2023!
They are agriculture scientists, this problem is of agriculture economy.
Mr. Thapar, please have some discussion with farmers or a farm scientist who hold different view, someone like Devinder Sharma. Let’s see how they counter Mr. Galaţi’s claims.
Agree
This is a prime example of how dumb we have become as a society, regardless of education. Our education tells us to look for different views and we blabber that. Did the education not teach you how to critically examine whats being said? Which part, since you took a name I’m sure you know what those views are, didn’t make sense? Is it Karan’s responsibility to dumb down when you can’t even articulate your questions/objections/opposition after more than 30 minutes of video? Sad part is others agree. Learn to critically examine things else you are just being a bhakt ( bowing to experts and what their views).
@@M20-z4j I think the first thing that education teaches us is to be humble to others while interacting with them. You’ve no right to address me the way you’ve. As it is, my question was not aimed at you. My question was to Mr. Karan because I think that something that is agitating so many people has to be discussed from all possible angles. Those who are asking for MSP are our own countrymen, a country that rightly prides itself on our ancient culture that privileges ‘anekantvada’. I don’t know what your education has taught you but my education has taught me that adversarial views have to be entertained in a democratic set up.
😂😂😂😂 ashoke gulati is the much better than sharma.
I know you are feeling bad because he is telling the truth.
Of the roughly 45 Lakh crore union budget, about 6.21 Lakh crore was allocated to the Defence sector.However, out of the total labour force of India about 52 per cent are employed in the Agriculture and allied Sectors but the allocation for agriculture in the 2024-25 union budget is about 2 Lakh crore.This shows Mr.Modi's misplaced order of priorities.
lies. Only fertiliser subsidy is 2.5 lac crore, plus MSP procurement worth lacs of crores + subsidised electricity, free water, low interest Kisan credit card + crop insurance, soil health cards, seed research, etc. Shouldn’t all this come under input costs?
@@va8085 I'm only talking about the budgetary allocation in the recent union budget of 2024-25.I am from Tamilnadu.You talked about subsidized electricity.However, the DMK announced free electricity for agriculture in the 1980's.The expenditure for such schemes were borne by the State government's not the union government.
@@va8085 Of course if you add fertilizer subsidy, another 1 lakh crore gets added to the union agriculture budget.But that is still 3.2 Lakh crore short of the allocation for defence sector.
@@hameed7939 the power subsidy given by the center all over India is 90000 Cr.
Plz tell us how should we reduce defense expenses?
What should we not spend on?
I completely agree
BUT - bhakts who are paying 100rs, and willing to pay 200rs for petrol/ diesel - what should cost 50rs only
Why are they NOT willing to pay 10rs more for wheat/rice?
Bhakts can pay but not every poor people
Production will improve if all land is taken over by Adani and Ambani and farmers become agricultural labourers on their own lands. He doesn't say anything about the SUBSIDY given to farmers in the US.
Subsidies are given in a round about way in US by futures market trading whcihbwe cannot do jere. But it is the same US and Canada that fight against subsidies in India.
Well, basically what the farmees are asking for taxpayers to pay for their work! I am not saying it is wrong but why dont you have this trialled in one state. I think a disaster.
In US farmer pay taxes for farming, rural houses. they don't have free electricity. First educate urself !
US per capita is 80k , India is $2500
This message is to all the urban people here who do not get it. Majority of India have landless farmers, meaning they toil on other land. Second, farmers with small land holdings 2 acres or even 10 acres, the quantity of produce is simply insufficient to afford transportation charges to the local wholesaler….forget getting retail prices. In my opinion the Food Corporation of India was a fantastic idea when it was created. It needs to be revived, funded, modernised and run like navratna government companies. FCI is needed to spearhead procurement from farmers with small land holdings so that MSP will improve their lives and limit food inflation.
If cost of power and fuel has caused inflation, to protect profits of Large Power Produces and Large Fuel Refiners, why cry and moan about food inflation so much. Suck it up people.
Why the USA accent ....Dr Gulati is planning for some position in Govt sector....some shame 😔😕 please
Karan Thapar we were not told what was Prof. Gulati's area of specialization. Agriculture needs, soil scientists, those who create new breeds, those who study how much fertilizers should be used. Sitting in air-conditioned rooms in Delhi and having no experience in the farm fields, only calculating prices and fiddling with data, and manipulating data as per the needs of the ruling dispensation to enjoy the power. A discussion on agriculture have a farmer, and a team of experts from different wings of agriculture. That will give a proper picture of agriculture and its problems on a holistic approach. Bring in farmers doing poultry, fishers and then see the problems simultaneously. The picture given by a Gulati who has his own biases is not the total picture. Through out the entire interview he is against the farmers is the overall picture. And he gives the impression he knows the best on agriculture. Have top scientists from the field. Gulati is not the proper man. He may never seen a field in the last thirty years.
Correct 💯
Shooting the messenger and going ad hominem will not help you. Ashok Gulati is a well-known agricultural economist unlike Yogendra Yadav and others who opine on each and every issue as if they had multiple PhDs. I'm dead sure you never challenge their credentials because they speak what you like.
Economics doesn't give a toss about your feelings. It has its own rules. The whole protest is about compassion for miserable farmers. Yes, there should be sympathy. But when you get irrational, you annoy others.
He raised few points and instead of countering them or asking doubts, you are belittling because he didn't pander to your bias.
At least, if you have, answer these:
1. Fiscal crisis management with data and case studies
2. WTO implications
3. Why not farmers outside 23 crops and if yes then how feasible these schemes be.
I have other questions too. First answer these. I am open to correct my perspective on the whole issue.
He’s not talking abt agriculture. He’s talking economics.
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Futures markets are manipulated and controlled by investment/hedge funds.
Being a commodities analyst myself I can say with some authority what this man is saying is pointless.
26:05 is the best moment... Look at Karan face😂...
Plz Listen carefully from Agriculture Economist
अशोक गुलाटी जी नकारात्मक सोंच और रुढिवादी परमपरा के व्यक्ति हैं , उनका कृषि अर्थशास्त्र सिर्फ उनको और उनकी संघी व मोदी भाजपा को ही सुहा सकता है जो कि देश की अर्थव्यवस्था, कृषि और किसानों के लिए बहुत घातक है।
Our Mandis are dominated by Bania Traders / Artis This Bania government will never pass any law that undermines the Dhanda of Banias.
Why congress did not change it in 70 years of their rule
So from North to South, East to West every where baniyas are there. get a life!
Three farm laws were against the monopoly of these Bania traders and Arhtis.
Actually all problems have solutions.
What is missing is the spirit the intent on part of the government. Political game-playing kills all solutions before they are born because there is total trust deficit between the leaders in the government and the common man. The message the common man hears is that the government is in the godi of the corporates and only manipulates the common man.
My dear Karan,
Hope to inject some data in this topic..
I quote from a 2021 Reuters article, EU's annual farm subsidy is about Adani's "Bloomberg net wealth"
"The CAP, worth around a third of the EU's 2021-2027 budget, will spend 387 billion euros ($436 billion) on payments to farmers and support for rural development."
If tiny EU (by size) can pay so much (or little, if you listen to protesting European farmers right now)... why can't Vishwaguru India?
Boss India is poor country not rich like Europe. In Europe the farmers are paying income tax and our guys don’t. There are huge subsidies on fertilisers and free electricity given to farmers. Our farmers don’t pay tax get loan waiver , and also buy Mercedes & Lexus cars
@@vvk594 Boss , Indian farmers even poorer and more vulnerable than their European counterparts .
@@jayant5681 But not the middlemen - who are mostly better off than average European counterparts
In EU and USA, there is faming tax, no free electricity and rural houses also taxed.
Agreed
Unfortunately Government gives ₹ 6000 per annum goes to land owners who lease their land for farming to the actual tillers or farmers mostly from poorer group of the villages at annual rent of about 20000- 30000 per bigha for a year. S
And none of the farmers demonstrating are actual farmers….
most of them are middleman, which make huge profit in current farming scenerio
Dr Gulati's solutions were clear, informative and to the point. One of the best interactions Mr Thapar has had in the past couple of months. Legalizing MSP would be disastrous from the POV of economics, with all the electricity, water and fertilizer subsidies the Government provides. Crop diversification and input investment support (coupled with rationalization of food and fertilizer subsidies) are excellent (and viable) alternatives to this demand.
....... if high petrol prices can be paid
if monies can be paid for various basic facilities (health and education)
if a high toll price can be paid
if tax subsidies can be provided to corporate
if PLI can be given
then why not such english terminologies can be derived for farmers
and why farmer should carry burden for all inflation
then why not to pay for food products
Are bhai facilities chahiye to pay to karna padega na.......
why not salaries of most of public sector employees must be market linked and rationalised in a manner where much lower salaries are paid for same nature of work in the private sector
they are already subjected to market, and in times of inflation company just kick out their employees. This is still happening in IT sector@@shazafkhan2024
@@shazafkhan2024 hello! You've raised thought provoking points on this situation. In my opinion, equating salaries and allowances handed out to PSE employees and this demand for MSP might not be wise. Once MSP is legalised, all the commodities under the MSP regime nationwide will witness a tremendous surge in prices, and most of these commodities are a part of staple diets throughout the length and breadth of the country. Everyone needs food, and the resulting situation will be intolerable for most citizens who still find it difficult to manage two meals a day. This is one reason why I think the Government is advocating cultivation of millets. Poverty alleviation should be pursued by the Government in priority mode and aggressively, and then and only then can such guarantees be feasible. For more details we can consult similar discussions online, but this is what I think seems to be the problem with this demand. Looking forward to your feedback, Sir.
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If prices of petrol diesal insecticide pesticide fertilizers medicine is increasing then why not prices of crops of farmer ? Your analysis is baseless bias against 70 %of population of bharat..aap log corporate ke dalal ho..aap log kisan majdoor ko bas gareeb rakhna chahte ho..kisan ki prizes 4%se vi kam ka increase huya hai 1980se 2023 tak or other product on average 8%kareeb bdi hai..kya aap kisan dba kuchla hi rakhna chahte ho..shame on u gulati
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A wealth of information. Very logically argued by Dr Gulati. Ensuring remunerative prices to farmers and reasonable price to consumers is not easy.
How did he reach 25 percent
PMGKAY aimed at ensuring food and nutrition security for 81.35 crore persons, is estimated to incur a cost of Rs. 11.80 lakh crore over a 5 year period. So already it is around 12 lakh crore . So 25% inflation would mean 15 lakh crore which is like 3 lakh crore . And here is the cost of just one statue , The Statue of Unity : 3 Thousand Crore + the cost of Ram Mandir : 2 thousand crore ( these two are for example only not to hurt any sentiment ) + Ramanujacharya statue in Hyderabad + so on ...
Less than oil bonds that are issued to subsidise fossile fuels prices in 2013. Only beneficiary of that are rich people who consume more oil.
full filing the demands need extra 36 lakh crores... where that money government will give only by increasing taxes on petrol/diesel..
not a single rupee was given by any government to Ram mandir.. but 75 years they created hurdles only... who stopped you people from full filling demands of these farmers?
@@devkumar7115 " fulfilling the demands need extra 36 lakh crores." please share the maths for the benefit of the people . Pulling out numbers as rabbits from the hats is something only magician can do - we are common people - we need a bit explanation. The people who can afford to donate for mandir-masjid-mecca-ayodhya etc can bear a little extra burden of costlier wheat , costlier rice and pulse . And who are these "who" in your question , " who stopped you people from full filling demands of these farmers?" . I mean to whom are you asking this question ?
@jayant5681 did any govt given money for statue and ram mandir?
@@jayant5681 well, I feel for the farmers but let me tell you they will get nothing from this government or the Congress. Their income will not grow, this is INDIA land of great tragedies. Nothing happens here the right way.
It will be nice if Wire also brings someone with contra point of view. Ashok Gulati always believes in neo liberal economic policies
Modi should understand that by chanting Jay shree Ram not enough for living a life. It needs money. Which everyone should get opportunity to earn as per their hard work.
Even in Bihar, fishery, banana and other fruit orchards besides dairy farms and poultry have become the main business of the progressive farmers…
Karan Thapar, remember that this Gulati is a pro- corporate world waala spokesman. He is actually a villain. He is always in the lap of the ruling dispensation which ever party is in power.
Now Karan Thapar show this interview to P. Sainath and Devinder Sharma and interview both together on your show. Let's have what pro-farmers intellectual have to say about the crisis of the farmers. At least EXPOSE the likes of Ashok Gulatis.
If you had actually listened to what he said, you would have realized he criticized all governments in the past 20 years. But you don't to do that, and say stuff like this. Totally your choice.
33:00...Wah.....Goverment price supress kar rahi hein.....Apno paisa kharcha karke....vote ke liye....
And in my gram panchayat calculation of subsidy 70%of it drawn by bigger farmer who earn more than 10 lakh rupi
Gulati is always misleading the people
atleast i will accept his views , as he is proven economist of the field. U need some education to understand him
One point resonates and comes right at the end......"compassion and trust". This government definitely cannot build on that with the farmers, atleast in the near future. Till then it's cheap gimmicky, whataboutery and dole. Sad
Hi
@42:42.... Summed up in an EMOTIONAL ADVICE by Proff. Ashok Gulati ; really it was heart touching💐
So simple!
I wonder that why such intellectuals don't join ACTIVE POLITICS; for the BETTERMENT OF SOCIETY.....
Hahaha!!!!! KAran Thapar asking for subscriptions!!!! Government damad to a bhikhari. Now Truly Modi effect on Journalism needs to be condemnded.
Why aren't you saying the inflation will increase when petrol price hike.. framers are only scapegoat for all.
Mr gulati pls tell bharat ratna to eminent policy maker Swami ke is a bugus,foolish descision of modi govt, Mr gulati pls tell why govt in 2019 promised to give msp,govt is fool the farmer🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🎉
I'm here because Mr. Rashesh Sir of Byju's IAS recommended on March 20, 2024 in daily analysis video on Byju's IAS youtube channel to go through this interview, and I found it very useful and informative. Thanks to Rashesh Sir and thanks to The Wire.
Prof.Gulati may smile and smile but still be a villain for not allowing the legalisation of MSP. He is not a farmer. Yet he is Prof. of Agriculture, based on his degrees and alignment with the power brokers. Can we say, he is more knowledgeable than Dr. M. S. Swaminathan. He is from the WTO camp.
He is more knowledgeable than swaminathan.
Dr. Swaminathan was an expert on genetics to improve crops. Prof. Gulati is an agricultural economist. If we are talking about economics, and things like prices and market, Gulati is the expert, not Swaminathan. If this was about plant genetics and GMO crops, then Swaaminathan is the expert, not Gulati. You cannot rely on a doctor's advice to build a bridge or an engineer's advice on how to treat cancer.
Can Gulati explain the unreasonable price hike in petrol diesel and its impact on inflation......only govt have budget issue.....farmers don't have any budget of their own....right......bullshit
He is one of the main issue creator . End user will not have to pay extra , if government put checks. Only looser will be corporations n middle men
Don't sell to middle men, go sell to consumers directly
Why, Government/Modiji has awarded BHARAT RATAN to Swaminathan Ji, if they are not willing to implement Swaminathan's report's suggestion.
Middle man in food trade is the biggest problem. Thy do nxt to nothing an get the lion share of the profit. Tk them out an the problem will be solved. Handing out more freebies an not fixing alrdy corrupt system mks no sense. Im surprised farmers themselves are not demanding this 🤷
Khalistani kabse farmers ho gaye ? in Punjab only 2 crops have msp..no impact of anything..😂😂😂.....but made daru cheap by khujliwal made difference....khujliwal,gandy family and narssists along with foreign funds are creating this so called protest scene and troubling common people n public property... government should not spare such miscreants.,their voting rights n facilities must be revoked
Amazing Interview and Professor's sadness in his voice in the ending really tells how professional he is and how deep he is connected to Farmers and Agriculture.❤️
Mr Gulati is making illogical arguments. How can MSP increase the production? Production is already maximum. With MSP, farmers will just get a little more money.
Haryana, Punjab and Western UP produce most of the wheat and rice and they sell at MSP. Making MSP legal will only increase buyers cost marginally. It will only protect fathers from market economy abuse.
Cost of produce to consumers is controlled by unethical market forces. Consumer pay around 10 times more than what farmers sell it far. Any other consumer product is 3-4 times more costly to consumers than the producers sell it for.
Food should not be controlled by greedy business companies.
Sorry to say but prof Ashok gulati here played with numbers and statistics. I am economic research scholar and i can prove how he just shown one side of economic facts. 1. What about the distribution effect? 2. Our net area sown is not going to increase, population is increasing, we have to make sure we have enough farmers, or we have yo work on productivity, growth which no one is saying, that is not increased in past decade in agrl. 3. Rather than having msp on two crops if its on multiple crops, it automatically adjust demand and supply of substitute. 3. As our economy is growing per capita exoenditure on agrl commodities in proportion to non-agrl is decreasing. 4. Govt help fertiliser companies by subsidy, why not farmers? And 5. His calculation of 10percnet from 77th round 33 schedule is subjective. Because if we take 23 items than its not 10 percent. I am dissapointed as student that why he just played with facts. 6. Livestock and fisheries growth is there, thats helping as subsidiary income but thats not the alternative for these 23 items, so how its important here.
He might be good prof, but he just played with facts. Any student if agrl economics can prove it.
So prof, we are listening and once we got chance we will prove hiw you played with the facts.
This Prof. ji is pro government, biased. contradicts Swaminathan Report. Farmers perspective, reality and RENEGING
What sounds great in theory rarely translates into reality especially in a place where the government is incredibly incompetent and completely unaccountable. The issue is trust or the lack of it.
Gujarat and other states have done it. This is not a theoretical exercise. Karnataka has successfully promoted fisheries in big way.
There is no trust issue, it's khalistani issue
Congress and only Congress can give you a accountable
I come from eastern UP, our small farmer are more diversify than these druggist. Apart from wheat, rice etc, they also do horticulture like Genda (marigold) flower, roses, milk production etc . That's why there is no support for this protest in those area.
@@swamiparmanandhcc8185 Udata Punjab.
How can one compare milk production and crop production? Basic problem is not properly addressed in this interview. I think there should be someone like Prof. Yogendra Yadav for rebuttals. Not very impressed the way this interview was being conducted. Sorry Karan, your confirmation bias was visible all throughout.
PVNR faced huge problems while opening economy, Thanks to left and lunatics.
Farm reforms were resisted by the same ignorants. Govt needs political will. Hope, Modi would pull it.
Dr. Gulati is a Professor of Corporate Agriculture. When about 30 farmers commit suicide everyday in India, this man talks about the market economics. If market determines everything why world governments fix MSP and minimum wages. How can farmers loose money every year in producing and selling; able to survive. Mr Tapar: I am disappointed in you, you never raised any of the points from the farmers side. This interview could have been done by any rookie journalist, not by a person with decades of experience. take care
We need more discussion on this topic to avail the comprehensive view.
The objective of floor price in any sector is always to protect it from price fall. Particularly in agriculture this safeguards the farmers and boosts growth. At the same it also assures food security.
Missing in this video is the influence of private players on these 23 crops under MSP. If they hold the biggest share of the market it means they can influence the prices and lead to inflation even if the MSP is not legalised
The goal to make MSP a legal right is to protect the farmers and boost the growth of essential commodities and not to find the optimal solution. This is the socialist view to assure food security and protect the economy in the long run as a huge % of the population is still dependent on agriculture production.
I request Karan to continue this series with more intellectual guests and thanks to Mr Askok Gulati for sharing the thoughts.
A big flaw in Mr Gulati's argument is that the difference between the people who are 'Below poverty line' and 'Above poverty line' is very marginal.The last time i saw the data it was 1200-odd rupees per month for people living in rural hinterland and 1350-odd rupees for urban dwellers for Below poverty line.Therefore, if you go by the Niti Aayog data of 11 per cent of India's population below poverty line on these meagre montly incomes.And considere people who earn a rupee more than this paltry monthly figures as 'Above poverty line' his idea may seem sensible and rational.But its not if you dig deeper.
Poverty at 11 per cent, then why free food to 80 crores of the population. Gulati feed this 80 crores with air. Prof. Gulati live on 5 kg. Food for a month which is given to the 80 crores of people, all your advice will go for a toss.
Karan Thapar we need a agriculture scientist to talk not a Gulati a wise man who manipulates for all types of exploiters of the farmers. Those three black farm laws, it is believed in some sections of the farming community, were his brain child !
So, he is not the person we should be listening to.
Sir, to atleast show a semblance of principled journalism, report something about SANDESHKALI
Instead of giving free rice dal to 80 crore poor people, investing in primary education and healthcare would help people pay more for food along with other nutrition, but do we want people to be empowered or live on charity all their life!!!
whose interest it serves?
What about delhi electricity free, what about karnataka freebie scheme,what about Punjab freebie what about congress freebie jumle
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Now don't say that Chanakya was also from BJP and was Sanghi.
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Please do sone research and then spread your propaganda.
Now you can't play victim card and says like everyone says andhbhakt.
By the way we worship our bhagwan by closed eyes because we sanatani know there is superpower who will definitely look after us.
I know how logically killed your propaganda pseudo liberal..
The free 5Kg works out to be approximately close to Rs.200. That is Rs. 200/per month. A day labour cost is Rs. 350. So if the govt can just give just one day work / month under Mnarega or such scheme, the govt can get productivity out of the scheme while the farmer can honourably buy what is given in charity and some more.
But then the govt cannot tom tom free ka ration and get votes on it right?
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I get ur point giving out food for free isn't gonna help anyone in the long term but it's being done to feed the needy and hungry people at present... Educating them and making them skilled will only make them independent over a period of time but what about people struggling from starvation now .... Both the schemes should go hand in hand , I understand it's not easy to bring a scheme and manage it for 140 cr people but the government should emphasize the needs of the present and future
@@AbhishekPandey-ij8ul giving free food rations allows the poor to utilise there megere earning for something else like education and health. If the government does not give rations it'll get spoiled anyway so it's a win win situation.
Earlier farms law were good as we farmers could be selling their produce wherever they get good price not just in Mandi. All these paid activists ruined farmers. Now we are able to export Basmati rice as we are in WTO. If we come out of WTO, then other WTO member could ban our rice exports. what would happen if that was the case? How much agro products are we importing now compared to exports? Very less, Our farming exports are way more than imports because of WTO membership
Superbly explained.
However , no talk about why block roads / trains in the name of protest. Why cant there be a silent protest like the army jawans did for their pension ? Why block delhi before the elections ? This is like arm twisting.
Msp cannot be given permanently . The old saying is " instead of gifting food, better to gift a fishing rod. That way , you save someone from being dependant , begging all his life. That is true independance. "
If such demands are met by some permanent law , then manufacturers of shoes, plastic , glass, steel, sand, cement, cars, bikes, cycles, etc etc. Will also feel hurt if they do not get MSP .
Farmers pay zero income tax even if they earn 100 crore annual income . Why no revision of that ? Even the minority percentage of income tax payers wlll feel hurt if this not done.
Even the farmer is a consumer. Infact 50 or 55 % of consumers ( population ) would be farmers. So, the food subsidy bill , solar pumps, interest subsidy, cost on road / trains and other infrastructire also helps the farmers and their produce to reach fast at lower cost to the markets , water dams / river interlinking etc etc.
Why is Punjab govt not buying other agriculture products at MSP with its own money and for its own farmers but on the other hand it is supporting the road / train blockage n march to Delhi just before general elections when action is due on their AAP leader by Govt Agencies ? Is it to divert attention or to get the central government to intervene and stop the arrest in bargain for averting this farm jam ?
Lallantop is cheap new agency only wants to sell their news. They should educate the people on the issues first. What are farmers demands, why government cant accept. Where government can bring money , why only Punjab farmers protest not other states, Why Punjab state government not giving MSPs ? Why constitutionally it is illegal and against right to equality of every citizen. Cheep lallantop
I'm surprised to see an"expert" who believes that India has only 11% poor!!! He also believes when the subsidies are cut off, there will not be inflation 😂. He is also sure that kisan switch to growing fruits to export to the Gulf will solve their problems!!! Wasted my time 😓
How did Govt price Bharath Rice at 29/kg? WTO approved?
Ashok Gulati is just speaking on behalf of the political dispensation and corporate lobby. Teaching botany and being a farmer are two different things.
Ad hominem much?
He is talking economics because he is an economist. You are clearly not.
Mr Karan Thapar please apply common sense, and look at how market operates - if tomato purchase price falls from 10₹ to 3₹, does the price of tomato sauce gets reduced by 70%? So why would retail prices go up?
Sir Kindly invite Mr Devinder Sharma who is strongly supporting MSP as legal binding contrary to what Mr Gulati is advocating..
I can see a lot of uneducated comments of "farmer" sympathizers. How come the welfare of only well off farmers of punjab and haryana bothers you. MSP may be a solution to the farmer distress in vidarbh and marathwada. But the regions which need them the most get neglected because of noise making fools like you. Dr. Gulati is talking sense. Just because a mob tries to wreck havoc in the national capital to blackmail the government fools like to think they are in their right to demand unjust freebies. Similar things will keep happening if the government surrenders to their wishes.
Learn from Gujarat farmers. They are doing Dragon fruit, Avocado, Saffron, Fruits, Sugar cane and Hydroponics agriculture rather than grains.
He is nonsense Gulati. Atleast a good person should have been chosen. He does not have knowledge anything about milk, soyabean, onions, sugarcane , cotton. He is having no knowledge of Maharashtra Karnataka Gujarath, Andhra. He has even faulty data.
Karan you failed in choosing an expert person. Check whether he is a govt or Adani agent.
So Modis Gujrat model did succeed.loved watching Karans expression when prof said how Gujrati farmers managed 9% + growth without msp