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improve your knowledge first, dont just nod to what your guests say, start inviting guests like Arun Kumar for debates rather than listening to just one sided versions
These are the idiots who think that when they express their views in English ... they are the champions are intelligent But the most part of India does not understand English properly . That's why the knowledge and the details they are giving that should be given in Hindi
3 Key takeaways 1) Increase the demand 2) Demand increases with more Jobs 3) TO generate Job, Invest on People growth Unfortunately all politicians are directly controlling these, unless we people create the demand indirectly, We can't improve, One full generation needs to sacrifice for this change.... How do we start that happening. Awesome Interview
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my brother did engineering but couldn't find job so he started preparing for government jobs, but due to paper leak, less vacancy, he could not find job there. So now he is unemployed since many years, and the father is farmer , he sold land for his engineering and now have loans to pay. Thats the reality of Indian middle class
Wasting time for government jobs could have been used in research. Govt is spending crores in worthless roads, but doesn't even encourage research or increase their education expenditure . The problem in India is a lot of people easily got govt jobs in 1950s until 2000s because of less graduates. Now population is increasing and parents can't expect their children to do the same thing and get job. World is in advanced phase and old tactics of getting job won't work and only high skilled people can manage the prosperity.
@cooldharan please, we don't have factories for mech engineers, materials science and chemical engineers, and you want PhDs which most economies find no use for? Your production base dictates the outcome not research budget. Who will take your research into a factory, foundry or shop?
@@rutvikrs Unfortunately robots are eating manufacturing jobs and you can't start a manufacturing company now and expect big job creation with China dumping all their manufacturing into the world. Too much population doing some research is better than doing nothing or preparing for govt exam . Colleges just pass their students and push them out without skills. China has manufacturing because of high quality. Before a decade or two China products were not considered good but now almost all big companies have manufacturing in China because of skills. Colleges and Students in India have no Idea other than getting marks and getting passed . There are plenty of inefficiencies and almost every project in college is a copy paste
The only valid suggestion from this gentleman is the urgent need to revamp the education system to suit the need of the 21st century and health. Get rid of income tax.
Seems you have not properly listened to what all he is saying based only on his 50 years of research, teaching, and practical experience . I personally feel that this dialogue is full of fresh ideas and wisdom. Anchor did a remarkable job by putting up the right questions and letting the gentleman speak more.
What economist Arun Kumar suggested is that the government needs to focus on the education, health and infrastructure of 50% of the vote bank of political parties that resides in villages and spend more on education , health specially on the unorganised economy that resides in villages. As a political party you just can't ignore the 80 cr population that is in unorganised. India will only become developed country if these 80 cr people are provided the best of best education, health, infrastructure . RIP to all those superstar investors who sell the India dream on news platforms. Frankly speaking you never cared enough for the country.
Even that is a hackneyed idea with zero details. We have invested more in education every year since independence but the result is always elite overproduction ie. Every generation has more unemployed Masters & PhD, unemployable engineers and 35yo never worked Exam enthusiasts.
@@kingshukdutta2064because they will have more money & global influence? This trope is 70 years old now. This hypothesis isn't giving us any real world solutions and there is evidence to the contrary that education is a good business for every political outfit in India.
@s.k.p.9158 Modi doesn't rule W Bengal, Tamil Nadu or Karnataka, if Modi is responsible for your unemployment then this is the high time you should move to some non Modi state & unlock your talent.
he seems to be an arm chair Professor....on one side, he wants technology in agriculture also.. which will only reduce employment...his talk on GST is totally ill informed... before GST also, there were so many taxes with deep corruption at all levels right up to octroi or panchayat taxes... far away from realities
Your comment indicates you are ill-informed, You are confusing with GST / corruption and things which are not in his speech. He addresses large 'Unorganised sector' . All the street vendors, small producing and selling people are in crores in India. Unless their livelihood is improved, India cannot prosper.
1) China implemented an internal visa system. People are not allowed to work anywhere they like. Will prof support such a movement by Maharashtra? 2) China forcefully moved people out to create well-planned SEZs cities. No market-fair compensations are paid. Will prof support such a government action? 3) China mercilessly forced a one-child policy. Will prof support such a government action? 4) China has horrible labor laws and pollution laws which helps in keeping cost-of-product low. Will prof support such a government action? 5) China built a huge road/railway network. This reduced the cost of goods transport drastically. Forceful land acquisition in China is not an issue. Will prof support such a government action? These guys quote China's growth without quoting specific actions China (Deng Xiaoping) implemented.
All the points you brought out were true, but was 30+ years ago. Time has changed, if not mistaken people in China are free to move around except they have to register as statistical in future planning. The force move system no longer true, it already apply similar system use in Canada or Singapore acquisition via fair mkt price, except China come with further step for those refuse to sell, build around them. That Ywhy there are buildings or homes located in the middle of the highway...
Today organised sectors doing fake insolvency bank loan hair cuts not giving enough employment not investing in productive one investing in speculation businesses i
Most black economy prevails because of organised corrupt govt officials. Just give huge money to youth who report corruption and jail the officials instead of suspending and remove them from jobs. It increases productivity and spending instead of few officials getting all wealth and hiding in homes ,being lazy and doing no spending .
JNU was representative of and flag carrier of the Nehruvian policies which kept India from developing its economic potential. Arun Kumar joined JNU in 1984. What was he doing in all those decades?
Economist saying black money is destroying economy on one side and saying unorganised sector needs boost isnt unorganised sector contribute to major cirruption by not paying tax
At that level , no government involved is better as it creates less problems even if these people save something on tax they will spend it for consumption (boost to GDP), eg- an unorganised sector setup with ₹10-15Lpa revenue with 30% margin will earn ₹3-5 lakh/year or ₹30 to 40k per month so they are not liable for income tax but no paper work or govt involvement gives them freedom of work and flexibility. This makes them urban lower middle class. This is an over simplification but I hope this example shows unorganised sector doesn't mean corruption but is very much a part of our regular/ bigger economy or national GDP.
*He is a scam, I know him very well. People like him know how to use articulated English & they know that Indians will be impressed with the english regardless of the content*
Corruption has increased 100 times in recent times. Why everyone talking of economic growth if at the cost of poor people. Our government has become very cruel
This was enlightening. Will definitely read the book . Please listen to this podcast if you truly care for the country🇮🇳. A true patriot constructively criticise his/her country so that the country truly develops. A must watch for all Indians
Sir why do MBA. We in Delhi can't find carpenter, Plumber, Electrician who is competent enough to do a decent work. I paid 800 to plumber for 1.5 hour work . What is the level of B Com, M Com etc in our country, we all know .
Possibly 70% Indian students are illiterate of basics of economics. They are lefteists, even when they are in right wing labels. They WILL NOT achieve anything but engaging in blame wars, and claiming victims.
This is the type of teachers we have....It is because of these people , the nation is going backwards....Not one word of recommendation that will develop the nation....
@@intellectualendeavors7194well he has to create the environment for the next rung of dung beetles. The feminist sociologist who blames lack of female friendly tools in these home factories leading to patriarchal injuries. The environmentalist who will unironically put up a photo shot in Central Park or Dubai Zoo to educate us on India's pollution.
He did not ask for votes and nobody gave him the votes. The votes went to those in government and they need to find solutions. He is exercising his right to free speech to criticise the government as a citizen? And you also have the right to criticize him, and I have the right to criticize you.
Our priority should not be just urbanization but strengthening the rural areas! agriculture transport, technology are the main requirements we need...we need to promote higher studies and opportunities here so that jobs are created here...well said
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I think anyone who doesn’t pay tax or pays minimal taxes compared to what they earn is part of the black economy. So anyone from your kirana wala to samosa wala contribute to the black economy, doctors to everyone who doesn’t give you a bill.
It's a misconception that India's intellectual talent is unparalleled. Many of the successful CEOs from India honed their skills at top universities in the US. Had they stayed in India, they might have ended up in more average roles. As often highlighted, education is crucial. My advice to young people is to pursue higher education at the best universities globally and not restrict themselves to the resources available in India.
Dear sir - ( neon show owner), I started to listen to the content you generate for the fact that it will give me clarity to progress. So far I listened to 2 contents from your channel. After listening to this particular conversation till 55 min, this comment created more confusion rather than clarity. The primary responsibility of any media to encourage progress with solution oriented content . I felt this content is all about critisism for every question you asked for solution. I learnt from this conversation that 94% of India industry is unorganised and they run as black economy so our economy size is 26 tri on one hand. But on the other hand conversation points our that unorganised economy is shrinking and the organised industry is growing. Second contradiction is that the data collection in India govt has large error, but most of the stats referred on unorganised sector is based on govt data. Kindly provide content that are solution oriented and progressive rather than opinion and agenda driven just because more books are published. I feel we have large responsibility to solve are problem in India now and today to give better future to our children
The guest economist does not believe in govt data. But quotes the percentage of ingrained stats from the govt data. That is the contradiction. If one doesn’t believe in something, that person needs to give an alternative based on his/her own research to challenge. Not use the same selectively.
52:50 Prof started talking about solutions. How could you miss that within 55 minutes of content consumption? And when he talks about Black economy, it is not only about illegal economy, it also includes unorganized sector. There is no segregation between the both. Just like when we are told that we are ruling by a democratic government, it is understood that corruption is an integral part of it. We should get along with it until a revolution happens against corruption. We have to look at black economy in the perspective of unorganized sector, period. Illegal economic activities later.
Mr.ArunKumar is one of the eminent economist of our time.He speaks candidly theriotically,his views on indian economy are guidlines to us,but our politicians give deaf ear.
Thanks a lot for such an insightful podcast. People might say he is from JNU or socialist or leftist professor. He has given a lot of insights. We can't be stereotypic always before watching such episodes. Great work by "Neon Show". Any student of "Economics" or any concerned citizen will find many insights in this podcast, whether we fully agree or not with his viewpoint.
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@@TheNeonShoww Ashok Gulati- agricultural economist, Madhav Gadgil- Ecologist, specially about his work on Western Ghats. I know they are octogenarians and difficult to invite them. However, I would like to see them on this podcast.. Thanks.
he wants to take india back to the 70s, 80s and 90s. my mother worked in a nationalised bank, thus i am more than acquainted with the working of these banks. i am witness to the improvement in banking infrastructure and transparency with the advent of technology. same thing applies to working of the post office services. human interference makes the system inefficient as was observed in the banks, post offices, and in LIC. if one asked a secondary LIC agent for any official help, they would decline to help unless one do these agents a favour by opening a new policy with them. i think this man has never faced such hassles of mundane life. i find his words delusional, as the policies he suggests have all been tried for decades without an ounce of success.
@@ygp47 😂😂 what stress? Bank employees apart from probably sales representatives are probably the most relaxed people, very little work plenty of holidays and fixed timings.
@koushiksarkar2809 You are confusing yourself with privatization and implementation of technology with his core argument on ways to lift up 94% of people in unorganized sector. His point is empower unorganized sector - be it via technology skills, via cooperatives such as amul butter, via ensuring they get political voice, relieve them from demonetization and GST. Free Education thinking is so crucial to bring about technological prowess that Apple's of the world bring about. Even 5% of what was discussed in the podcast is implemented, India can take developed economies head on. No doubt about it.
Education system is the subject of State govt. But your professor doesn't mention it a single time. Corruption of teacher's recruitment is huge problem in some states. If you choose your govt on the basis of free electricity free mobile or 1000 rupees per month.
Prof must give data of what happens in first 60 years for employment , education and health. In last 10 years lift from bottom pyramid is happening by 300 mm mudra loan .
posted by C.P. CHANDRASEKHAR: ..C.P. ...this is a government which not merely manipulates its statistics, but more importantly, uses every number possible to try and create this impression with a lot of investment in propaganda. And therefore, this is something which has been bought by the media, as you say, not merely in India, but across the world...
Just finished this full podcast & it took me many days to complete because i was so busy & i don't like to listen/watch podcast too but as a student of economics( Doing PG In economics from MSEPP) i listened this podcast in very attentive way and some part of the video i have heard more tham twice.I want to appreciate the podcaster for asking questions in very short and precised way & letting the prof Arun kumar ji respond to it's full extent of the question. Being an economics lover i used to listen Arun kumar ji since my childhood days when he used to come in panel discussion of NDTV. But today after so many years again i have heard him with much attention he has explained various aspects of the economy with very lucid and detailed way. and at the end as you said that you would like to do more conversation with the prof. So it's my humble request to you please do asap i'll be waiting for the next podcast with Prof Arun kumar ji. 30/10/2024 Wednesday 12:36PM
Hey Nilesh, we really do appreciate your kind words and for sharing your thoughts with us... We are hoping to maintain a hosting style that allows for our guests to be as comfortable as possible and answer questions the way they want to without any inclination to quickly move on from one topic to another. We are working hard to set up a round 2 with Arun sir so stay tuned for further updates! 🙏
@@TheNeonShoww thanks a lot for the response sir. Wishing you all the very best and sending you lots of love & support from mumbai. 03/11/2024 Sunday 09:40AM
Interesting interview. Mr. Arun Kumar has very deep understanding of Indian economy. Experts like him should be in the planning of government policies and advisors to government.
Arun sir definitely has a very strong grasp of the development process in rural/urban areas and we are very grateful we could bring him on board. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us!
In India,People in unorganized them doesn't want to be organized,not wanted to pay taxes,income tax & do business mostly in cash & they make huge amount of money
Is this professor for real? He completely ignores the fact that India made starting a new business almost impossible between 1956 and 1991. The policies he is recommending were tried for many decades with disastrous results. If education and health was so important, India should have outpaced Pakistan for decades. For the longest time Pakistan’s per capita income was higher than that of India. In fact, Europe spends more on education (e.g. free college) yet they lag US technologically and economically. That’s because, Europe has the same socialist and anti-business policies he is advocating. China has surpassed India because it allowed foreign companies set up businesses and allowing them to exploit their labor. He is right on unemployment being a problem. However, his solutions are totally ineffective. This sounds like unending list of everything that’s wrong.
Basically education and health are not that important for you 😂. Human capital is the utmost determinant in development of any country. Free market kar do, bahar ke companies la do but who is gonna work for them? Education is not important but quality education is.
Yep quality of education is very important to , in kerala they are saying 100 percent literate which is a lie even now you can find people who are not literate, the data portrayed by the state or government is not correct, I agree with the economist when he says data is not correct
Yeah and become like fucking south korea, where a person goes bankrupt every 12 seconds while the chaebols capture every single sector, leaving government's only job to be aggressively dissipating protests on any human rights issues . Very beautiful for the top 1%, "Hell Joseon" for the common man. In china it only works because money and political power are completely separate, that is the only reason it's socialist. No one wants to be the richest person in china. Japan has a 50% INHERITANCE TAX, low inflation, and an economy completely stagnated since late 80s due to US interventions. You are complicit in the US neoliberalism or are utterly devastated by it. the former eventually leading to the latter. It's only one class that's constantly getting richer dispite all the depressions... Capitalism does not exist due to virtue but due to the efforts in massacres and poverty.
I have been in Bangalore for more than four decades. The biggest problem is we don’t have worker, a security guard gets around 15-20 K, the driver gets around 20-35 K, the house maid for three hours get about 6-8 K. This person is still in his old thought he needs to step out and see the world. Yes people are definitely ready to do anything to get a government job as they are more eager to get the bribe than anything else. This is my personal opinion.
A very small portion of india lives in metro Cities....70 percent of India's population live in rular area... daily wage is below 100rs 😂 there is a famous quote in Hindi सावन के अंधे को सब हरा ही नजर आता हैं
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I read some of the comments and couldn’t understand them. The guest made great sense to me. Yes some parts require bit of an understanding of micro and macro economics. It’s was a great podcast.
Mostly these are college students who don't want to hear criticism of current government economic policy, if he had talk about gdp growth and applaud economic policy comment section would have been different
he is from JNU he will always make sense but when it's for implementation they start saying this was not the real idea as they say it russia and china is not true communist nation
@@aman3047 abbe chapri, criticism of government is fine but calling a BS in not BS. u have BS in ur brains that's y u are not making any sense. Discussion is this speaker is living in koko land and u are saying "who don't want to hear criticism of current government economic policy" this guy is spelling BS for congress era also. But u are not able to comprehend that??
one of the prime reasons for low level of tax payers base is because agriculture income is non taxable and crores are hiding their income as agriculture income..you can take Punjab for case study
Well, he is not addressing tax payers base. He is addressing the concerns of unorganised sector. On your point of taxing agri income - special reference to Punjab. Average income of Punjab farmer is Rs.26701= 3.2 Lakhs per annum is far below taxable income. It is possible very small percentage of farmers are rich above taxable slab, but they are very small. Inspite of Punjab being highest per family income in agriculture, lowest in Jharkhand/ Odisha with mere Rs.5000/- per month, 60,000/- per year - you want to tax them?? we were 60% agri dependent families in 1950s, stands are 40% agri income dependent families. In developed countries only 15% of population does farming which is sufficient to feed the entire country. Spend time reading Swaminathan Committee report to understand how agriculcure works in India and what transformation needed.
@@தமிழ்ராஜன்you are missing the fact that agri income tax exemption helps people who have agri connections but make ton of money from other sources evade taxes. Remember the controvery Amitabh Bacchan registering himself as farmer.
Is the agriculture income taxable in China? Is it not correct that agriculture sector is the most subsidised sector in USA and Europe? With agriculture income why you want to destroy the back bone of the economy in the aftermath of land reforms?
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Superb interview. Arun Kumar is a rare intellectual who understands the ground realities and is NOT afraid to say as it is - helps the listener to see through the smoke and mirrors. Thank you.
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I think this gentleman’s data itself needs a peer review! And coming from JNU, I would treat his info with a huge pinch of salt. His protocols and data collection methods need to be reviewed before his analysis is wholly accepted!
Sure , it is necessary to strengthen the net of social protection for the poor . But any plan for an economic revival will be incomplete without accompanying efforts to revive the purchasing power of India's large middle class.
Thank you Neon for such a good discussion on this topic without propaganda and agenda. And the Speaker is very knowledgeable and experienced in this topic. I have been listening him since he used to come on lok Sabha and rajya Sabha TV but because of recent government development, it is no longer worth watching.
God save this guy's students. For the unorganised sector - no taxes, cash transactions and hidden wealth were their main outputs since 1947. Who stopped them from getting organised?they were happily living in a society without contributing income taxes and compliance burdens like the organized sector. Now with GST and digitization, they are crying foul.
Atleast they were able to keep their family employed......that's what is most important. That's the first thing u want and paying income tax is secondary. The first thing you need is that people are employed at least. God save your students😂
Bro 😂😂 please atleast comment logically every business is un organized at some point to get organised to other point not all business people in any country have power to become organized you can see china america or any country so dont impose gst on in organized sector instead do something to make them organised
The guest has not given any data about how many neighborhood stores closed due to e-commerce. In my area (tier 1 city) neighborhood stores have actually grown.
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Leftists like Mr. Arun Kumar were part of the set-up that ruled India for sixty years. Why didnt they implement all the 'should have done' and 'should do' he is pointing out?
There are hundreds of nuances in unorganised sector too, such farmers, micro entrepreneurs, contractors, money landers earning in crores, but it's very very easy to hide income in this sector, so private data might seems declining.
But lots of things you're talking are on point, but still I'll prefer to see people's expenditure rather than tracking their income as tracking Income is not easy at all, but detailed expenditure tracking could be done.
We dont need more school and colleges we already enough,just ask the fees of normal school minimum 8000 fees they demanded ,we need factories in our area for jobs not college and school
😂 Not only we need more n more schools with world class infrastructure and affordable fees structure but we also need to remove certain bottlenecks like child marriage, potholes on roads, absence of roads😂, surplus income so that parents dont engage their kids doings family business
Prof has done a positive economic analysis of India's economic history.Institutional economics teaches that market economy can give the desired results only when institutions generate trust transparency and share required information which can help in decision making Census data should be conducted and analysis should be done at the earliest. The normative side requires more fairness on financial matters and simplify governance of the tax system like gst to upgrade the unorganised sector. Unorg sector is no doubt is a cause of corruption . Where do they borrow from from? local moneylenders. Why standards are not met in production for example, immitating brands selling spurious good and these goods are available for the unorganised sector to sell. So much of the goods and services produced and sold are in the unorganised sector. So how is the nation going to get its taxes.the nexus between unorganised sector and blackmoney sector funding their activities is huge. Several forms of illegal activities will continue to emerge . Govt must support employment generation otherwise this unorg sector will suffer and black money will continue to only grow . A condolidated talk .
For people like him, as long as congress was at the helm there was absolutely no problem. It is these very people with communist ideology who are responsible for everything that happened till 1991. These theoretical economists have not helped any economy either in India nor in US.
Wealth tax, inheritance tax, high MSP on everything. Mathematical problems to biological problems. The population is an organism of its own. Can’t just stop this. Start that. Things have 2nd, 3rd and 4th order ripple effects. It’s not as easy as he thinks.
What ever he told as threats are same as 200 years ago, people said about industrial revolution. So these disruption are part of development. There are more works in auto industry than before, so that industry can improve productivity they employ robots. Let's not blame industry also not the government we have to have a drive to improve our life, we need to work on it.
Ohh is that so how will you where will you get the job yours is employed by a robot or an ai , the skillls that you got would be replaced by a robot and you think you will survive with such empty rhetoric ,, increasing productivity along with increasing human employment is the need of the hour ,, not just automation ,,
Excellent. The man is honest in his assessment of the Indian economy unlike the government! Some viewers may not like the fact that he has highlighted the governments failed policies and their creative accounting and manufacture of statistics to suit their agenda. It is good that he deals with the unorganized sector as there is a popular misconception that there are many jobs in India. The fact remains that this sector accounts for 90 percent of workers including those in the gig economy.
The guest is a good logical and analytically focused Ecomist. The current top to bottom and capital intensive approach to growth is directly coming from the West and the US. The suggested bottom-up approach is coming from PR of China and CCP where CCP and Chinese decision-makers have not increased the billionaires pollution of China but brought about 850 Million Chinese out of poverty. From this discussion, I concluded that having a large number of the billionaire population in a country is a curse for the majority of population and a direct indicator of the growth of poverty.
You should look up how many Chinese billionaires there are. You should see stats on personal consumption in China. I suspect you will develop a strong preference for the Western model at that point.
Lol😂😂😂 Chinese have followed Western model at more deeper level. In west too there r two type of models one which was followed by Germany japan and now China which industrialised them and other was by Brits and Americans which financialised their economy . There is nothing called bottom up model in china. In china targets plans all forced from top. At bottom one has to implement and bring results one way or other. But biggest Concept which both west and china followed was Printing huge amount of money . Providing massive credit . China has 300 to 400% us has 250%. India has 70% of GDP. Bith west and china has hidden their data and thiz Ponzi scheme for most of the time. These ecnomist like Arun Kumar were ruling the nation for last 70 years why they cudnt achieved anything and only r shouting today
Imagine if GoI passed an order banning every single language and made it that all education will be done in two languages, Hindi and lesser degree Hinglish. Students will get an education to become factory workers by default and only the top 5% will get academic education. In 12-18 years you will have a generation that can talk to anyone across India in a factory or trade setting but you killed your language and culture. Don't fret I described China of the 1980s, the languages are Putonguah and Pinyin. Indians think this is bottom up.😂
Bro here you are are little bit wrong as chinese is autocracy they at the time of 1980 in starting used the top to bottom approach like west but after 1995 they used the bottom to top approach china used both approches because they are authoritarian and they know when and how to change
Reality is that although British left us 70+ yrs ago but the colonial mindset is still prevalent and Politicians and people in power (regardless of which party they belong to or their ideologies) don't want the common Indian citizen to be educated, because they just want blind followers who don't question the system and the authority...and that's why they make such policies and don't spend much on education...moreover they have built big universities such as IITs IIMs AIIMS and still going on, but never pay attention to the basic primary education
posted by C.P. CHANDRASEKHAR: ..C.P. ...this is a government which not merely manipulates its statistics, but more importantly, uses every number possible to try and create this impression with a lot of investment in propaganda. And therefore, this is something which has been bought by the media, as you say, not merely in India, but across the world... okay, we’re not talking about a 7% rate of growth, let’s say that, okay, let’s sort of favor the state as it were, and say that, okay, let’s say, maybe it’s 5%, maybe it’s 4.5%. ' Employment is low, unemployment is rising. .economy growth..top 3, 4, 5%, maybe 3%. Yeah.. .. how China has a huge current account surplus, India has a borrowed surplus, and so on..... Is India's economy truly thriving? Or is it exaggerating its growth? Geopolitical Economy Report
I'm personally interested in how to transition the unorganised sector to organized one. What shld be the policies for this ? How to irreadicate black money completely ? It is good that demand is transitioning from unorganized to the organized sector. We have to just find a way to help the unorganized sector to assist this transition. Everyone knows the problem. It would be helpful if people could provide the solutions.
I personally feel that if an impetus is given to disseminating quality education to all, even if it is not at a very high advanced degree level, but rather focuses on basic primary education, it may help. However, should we focus less on building infrastructure and more on disseminating quality education? By the way, the word "semen" means seed, and "dissemination" means the dispersal of seeds. It is like planting trees, and these trees will produce seeds of their own. The word "dissemination" is used in the context of imparting education, technology, culture, and diseases.
What he said after 42:00 Rajiv Dixit has also said that. Corruption is the biggest issue in India. MNCs did not kill the Rajiv Dixit. He was killed by A Jaichand.
One of the best video i have seen after long time far better then viral youtubers. Please invite more economist from University of Connecticut, Harward, Cambridge etc... to help explain how much deep shit we are in. Unless people realize there is no way out, and enough fear is generated, only will societal change is really possible. Why do people hesitate to do simple electrical, plumbing jobs that can pay them well, and allow decent earning !!! Summary at the end with bullet points is so much needed as the content is so down to the point.
Hey Hiren, we really appreciate such kind words and will work even harder to bring in guests like Arun sir on the show from various fields. Social stigma really causes a major stumbling block for those who are looking to do electrical/plumbing jobs Your point on making a summary is one we shall look into adding as well either as a pinned comment or at the end of the episodes. Thank you for tuning in! 🙏
Government instead of funding good universities should invest in good primary education. University is not required now a days. Anyone can study on their own if base is strong.
India is gradually moving towards a failed state and those in better positions are moving abroad.rather than face the stifling system. Instead of Populist measures to drain the economy we should focus on unorganised sector msme. Focus on microeconomics and work upwards next level to improve lot of 60 % of people. Govt should cut down its own expenses except critical areas.
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Looks like JNU professor is completely lost, does not understand power of infrastructure. It will improve the life of all remote villagers as they won't be remote village now bringing in good schools , hospitals, shops, reststraurants which will generate many jobs and farmers will get local markets for their produce. They will get access to nearby city markets and can get fertilizers due to cheap transport. Later solar parks also may come..
The problem is we are spending way more than other economies in developing our infrastructure, that too exceptionally low quality ones. So we are actually losing money building infrastructure.
Those who have grievances about the idea or analysis given here are either motivated or are ill digested about the subject matter. I would like to thank the anchor for presenting us with a vivid picture of the Indian economy..
Iam not any party supporter but sometimes i feel where were these intellectual or economist in 1990s to before 2010, why didn't they then talked about growth,unorganised sector problem, infrastructure problem, economy problem. The time when china and other countries were changing, growing in technology, indian government then was sinking our country in corruption and making our country poor without proper infrastructure. Most of the problem we are facing now is a result of these old intellectuals who kept their silence in 90s without questioning government.
Before 2010s you needs to go to a library to find the knowledge now it comes to ur mobile. So before 2010 people like you used to go cinema and picnic instead of a library. So in India Cinema is bigger than industries . 😅
Because it was well taken care by Congress until 2014, such economists are the real deed that stopped top-down approach, thanks to AAP we now understand that bottom-up is the key, same as USA. Have you not heard, Hum jab aaye thae, jeb mein $5 laye thae.
China’s shenzen moved from a fishing village to electronic world hub within 10 years and so did Singapore… we can always blame the government.. but we can’t ignore the reality..which is very harsh if u r poor
Education reform needs to be done by high quality online certifying examinations for every degree - simply pouring money into buildings and professors will not bring results. Today high quality lectures on any subject can be found on TH-cam and you do not need classrooms and teachers except for schooling upto 10th standard. Today in India you can get any degree because the examination system which is the fundamental quality check of knowledge is corrupt as everything else in this country.
Nice eye opener discussion reflecting the economics of the country and its effects in different sectors and different segments of the country , but clearly not for everyone.
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RBI governor
RBI governor
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improve your knowledge first, dont just nod to what your guests say, start inviting guests like Arun Kumar for debates rather than listening to just one sided versions
Any learned speaker who is unbiased
People have enough time to talk Cricket,Cinema, Religion not basic essential livelihood
So very True
Exactly
Why do you think that is the case
@@endofwar059 Because it's happening in real life until you are living in South Delhi or South Bombay.
Right
This is an excellent interview which exposes the real problems facing the Indian economy.
These are the idiots who think that when they express their views in English ... they are the champions are intelligent
But the most part of India does not understand English properly .
That's why the knowledge and the details they are giving that should be given in Hindi
3 Key takeaways
1) Increase the demand
2) Demand increases with more Jobs
3) TO generate Job, Invest on People growth
Unfortunately all politicians are directly controlling these, unless we people create the demand indirectly, We can't improve, One full generation needs to sacrifice for this change.... How do we start that happening.
Awesome Interview
Some very important takeaways indeed and thank you for sharing your thoughts with us! Glad you liked the interview and do let us know who you'd like to see next on the channel 🙏
my brother did engineering but couldn't find job so he started preparing for government jobs, but due to paper leak, less vacancy, he could not find job there. So now he is unemployed since many years, and the father is farmer , he sold land for his engineering and now have loans to pay. Thats the reality of Indian middle class
"Elite overproduction"
Lets be real here. He did not do engineering. He did engineering for jobs.
Wasting time for government jobs could have been used in research. Govt is spending crores in worthless roads, but doesn't even encourage research or increase their education expenditure . The problem in India is a lot of people easily got govt jobs in 1950s until 2000s because of less graduates. Now population is increasing and parents can't expect their children to do the same thing and get job. World is in advanced phase and old tactics of getting job won't work and only high skilled people can manage the prosperity.
@cooldharan please, we don't have factories for mech engineers, materials science and chemical engineers, and you want PhDs which most economies find no use for? Your production base dictates the outcome not research budget. Who will take your research into a factory, foundry or shop?
@@rutvikrs Unfortunately robots are eating manufacturing jobs and you can't start a manufacturing company now and expect big job creation with China dumping all their manufacturing into the world. Too much population doing some research is better than doing nothing or preparing for govt exam . Colleges just pass their students and push them out without skills. China has manufacturing because of high quality. Before a decade or two China products were not considered good but now almost all big companies have manufacturing in China because of skills. Colleges and Students in India have no Idea other than getting marks and getting passed . There are plenty of inefficiencies and almost every project in college is a copy paste
The only valid suggestion from this gentleman is the urgent need to revamp the education system to suit the need of the 21st century and health. Get rid of income tax.
but why would the government do that? keep people poor and uneducated and it becomes easier to control the vote bank.
Seems you have not properly listened to what all he is saying based only on his 50 years of research, teaching, and practical experience . I personally feel that this dialogue is full of fresh ideas and wisdom. Anchor did a remarkable job by putting up the right questions and letting the gentleman speak more.
What economist Arun Kumar suggested is that the government needs to focus on the education, health and infrastructure of 50% of the vote bank of political parties that resides in villages and spend more on education , health specially on the unorganised economy that resides in villages. As a political party you just can't ignore the 80 cr population that is in unorganised. India will only become developed country if these 80 cr people are provided the best of best education, health, infrastructure .
RIP to all those superstar investors who sell the India dream on news platforms. Frankly speaking you never cared enough for the country.
Even that is a hackneyed idea with zero details. We have invested more in education every year since independence but the result is always elite overproduction ie. Every generation has more unemployed Masters & PhD, unemployable engineers and 35yo never worked Exam enthusiasts.
@@kingshukdutta2064because they will have more money & global influence? This trope is 70 years old now. This hypothesis isn't giving us any real world solutions and there is evidence to the contrary that education is a good business for every political outfit in India.
Engineers are working as ola uber drivers and Swiggy Zomato delivery jobs
They are working as loan collection agents etc...
Most of them have degree but not skill
@s.k.p.9158 Modi doesn't rule W Bengal, Tamil Nadu or Karnataka, if Modi is responsible for your unemployment then this is the high time you should move to some non Modi state & unlock your talent.
@@santhoshkumar1000 True
@s.k.p.9158 Then you can start a company and recruit all of them. It's a simple solution.
@@noize2sound0:05 modi ruled whole India. He is prime minister not chief minister. He is one responsible for demonetisation, gst, income tax etc.
he seems to be an arm chair Professor....on one side, he wants technology in agriculture also.. which will only reduce employment...his talk on GST is totally ill informed... before GST also, there were so many taxes with deep corruption at all levels right up to octroi or panchayat taxes...
far away from realities
Your comment indicates you are ill-informed, You are confusing with GST / corruption and things which are not in his speech. He addresses large 'Unorganised sector' . All the street vendors, small producing and selling people are in crores in India. Unless their livelihood is improved, India cannot prosper.
Yes gomuthra nagpur half knickers you are right
He belongs to Pseudo intellectual
@@தமிழ்ராஜன்This is the same guy who used to give dooms day scenario of India for last 5 years
@@732anoop There is a doomsday scenario for the bottom quintile of the population.
1) China implemented an internal visa system. People are not allowed to work anywhere they like. Will prof support such a movement by Maharashtra? 2) China forcefully moved people out to create well-planned SEZs cities. No market-fair compensations are paid. Will prof support such a government action? 3) China mercilessly forced a one-child policy. Will prof support such a government action? 4) China has horrible labor laws and pollution laws which helps in keeping cost-of-product low. Will prof support such a government action? 5) China built a huge road/railway network. This reduced the cost of goods transport drastically. Forceful land acquisition in China is not an issue. Will prof support such a government action?
These guys quote China's growth without quoting specific actions China (Deng Xiaoping) implemented.
All the points you brought out were true, but was 30+ years ago. Time has changed, if not mistaken people in China are free to move around except they have to register as statistical in future planning. The force move system no longer true, it already apply similar system use in Canada or Singapore acquisition via fair mkt price, except China come with further step for those refuse to sell, build around them. That Ywhy there are buildings or homes located in the middle of the highway...
Your 3rd point is need of the hour.
@@AnkitYadav-hu2zd1 child policy has drastically failed in china
People marrying nowadays are not having more than 2 kids. My relatives were married in 2018-19. Each have 1 child and not planning for other
Your perception of China is so outdated and this will misguide your judgments.
Unorganised sector also leads to growth of black economy
The moment you add socialist tadka to economic policies, they become unhealthy.
Yes gomuthra nagpur half knickers you are right
Today organised sectors doing fake insolvency bank loan hair cuts not giving enough employment not investing in productive one investing in speculation businesses i
Most black economy prevails because of organised corrupt govt officials. Just give huge money to youth who report corruption and jail the officials instead of suspending and remove them from jobs. It increases productivity and spending instead of few officials getting all wealth and hiding in homes ,being lazy and doing no spending .
Because govrrnment are not doing enough for this sector.
Underrated podcast ❤
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JNU was representative of and flag carrier of the Nehruvian policies which kept India from developing its economic potential. Arun Kumar joined JNU in 1984. What was he doing in all those decades?
Such guys like him are a problem and not part of the solution!
@@RameshKumar-lt5we i was legit type this
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useless perception and propaganda based nonsense
Lot of bots working for बीजेपी 😂
Accha h bewakoof janta party k liye
Neon show should be challenging him rather than just nodding in agreement about everything he says.
Neon cannot question how does it support any business which it cannot bring out solid facts rather than generics.😮
Wasted 1 hr listening to this podcast. All problems and few utterly nonsense suggestions.
India is in a huge bubble ready to pop, he is right.
I wasted 50 mins listening to this nonsense as well
@@blankjohnson6934 very correct.
Economist saying black money is destroying economy on one side and saying unorganised sector needs boost isnt unorganised sector contribute to major cirruption by not paying tax
They mean the businesses which are in unorganised sector now need to grow. They are not against organising them.
They don't pay tax is exactly why they need to be bought under regulation
At that level , no government involved is better as it creates less problems even if these people save something on tax they will spend it for consumption (boost to GDP), eg- an unorganised sector setup with ₹10-15Lpa revenue with 30% margin will earn ₹3-5 lakh/year or ₹30 to 40k per month so they are not liable for income tax but no paper work or govt involvement gives them freedom of work and flexibility. This makes them urban lower middle class. This is an over simplification but I hope this example shows unorganised sector doesn't mean corruption but is very much a part of our regular/ bigger economy or national GDP.
*He is a scam, I know him very well. People like him know how to use articulated English & they know that Indians will be impressed with the english regardless of the content*
There is a difference between unorganised and unaccounted
Corruption has increased 100 times in recent times. Why everyone talking of economic growth if at the cost of poor people. Our government has become very cruel
This was enlightening. Will definitely read the book . Please listen to this podcast if you truly care for the country🇮🇳.
A true patriot constructively criticise his/her country so that the country truly develops. A must watch for all Indians
Thank you so much for penning down your thoughts with us Shubham and we appreciate you tuning in 🙏
Sir why do MBA. We in Delhi can't find carpenter, Plumber, Electrician who is competent enough to do a decent work. I paid 800 to plumber for 1.5 hour work . What is the level of B Com, M Com etc in our country, we all know .
In the UK a plumber or an electrician charges 120 £ an hour.
Top Level Skilled Institute Should Be Opened. To Train Youths To Do Skilled Job. 👍
Mostly People From Poor Background Do These Kind Of Job - Electrician, Plumber, Carpenter Etc...
@@rishiraaj.580 How rich are you sir? What job you do?
Possibly 70% Indian students are illiterate of basics of economics. They are lefteists, even when they are in right wing labels. They WILL NOT achieve anything but engaging in blame wars, and claiming victims.
This is the type of teachers we have....It is because of these people , the nation is going backwards....Not one word of recommendation that will develop the nation....
He just want attention
@@intellectualendeavors7194well he has to create the environment for the next rung of dung beetles. The feminist sociologist who blames lack of female friendly tools in these home factories leading to patriarchal injuries. The environmentalist who will unironically put up a photo shot in Central Park or Dubai Zoo to educate us on India's pollution.
He did not ask for votes and nobody gave him the votes. The votes went to those in government and they need to find solutions. He is exercising his right to free speech to criticise the government as a citizen? And you also have the right to criticize him, and I have the right to criticize you.
Do you understand English? He advised to go for "bottom up " development, that is priority should be given for the development of rural India,
This is the teacher I wish I had , he has shared so much of good information , he was a regular in the Rajya Sabha tv as well ,
Our priority should not be just urbanization but strengthening the rural areas! agriculture transport, technology are the main requirements we need...we need to promote higher studies and opportunities here so that jobs are created here...well said
This is well articulated, and we appreciate you sharing your opinions on the matter as well. Thank you for being a regular commenter on our channel... we are grateful for the continued support! 🙏
What a wonderful explanation. We require a PM like him who can add value to the nation.
You are an fool haha
Black economy is for politicians and businessman. No law passed against illegal restrictions because politicians are also in.
I think anyone who doesn’t pay tax or pays minimal taxes compared to what they earn is part of the black economy. So anyone from your kirana wala to samosa wala contribute to the black economy, doctors to everyone who doesn’t give you a bill.
It's a misconception that India's intellectual talent is unparalleled. Many of the successful CEOs from India honed their skills at top universities in the US. Had they stayed in India, they might have ended up in more average roles. As often highlighted, education is crucial. My advice to young people is to pursue higher education at the best universities globally and not restrict themselves to the resources available in India.
Dear sir - ( neon show owner), I started to listen to the content you generate for the fact that it will give me clarity to progress. So far I listened to 2 contents from your channel. After listening to this particular conversation till 55 min, this comment created more confusion rather than clarity. The primary responsibility of any media to encourage progress with solution oriented content . I felt this content is all about critisism for every question you asked for solution. I learnt from this conversation that 94% of India industry is unorganised and they run as black economy so our economy size is 26 tri on one hand. But on the other hand conversation points our that unorganised economy is shrinking and the organised industry is growing. Second contradiction is that the data collection in India govt has large error, but most of the stats referred on unorganised sector is based on govt data. Kindly provide content that are solution oriented and progressive rather than opinion and agenda driven just because more books are published. I feel we have large responsibility to solve are problem in India now and today to give better future to our children
Unless u know the real status how will u improve? And where is the contradiction...
I agree
The guest economist does not believe in govt data. But quotes the percentage of ingrained stats from the govt data. That is the contradiction.
If one doesn’t believe in something, that person needs to give an alternative based on his/her own research to challenge. Not use the same selectively.
@@riteshsinghchoudhary115 Read his comment again. He has pointed out the contradictions.
52:50 Prof started talking about solutions. How could you miss that within 55 minutes of content consumption?
And when he talks about Black economy, it is not only about illegal economy, it also includes unorganized sector. There is no segregation between the both. Just like when we are told that we are ruling by a democratic government, it is understood that corruption is an integral part of it. We should get along with it until a revolution happens against corruption.
We have to look at black economy in the perspective of unorganized sector, period. Illegal economic activities later.
Mr.ArunKumar is one of the eminent economist of our time.He speaks candidly theriotically,his views on indian economy are guidlines to us,but our politicians give deaf ear.
Thanks a lot for such an insightful podcast. People might say he is from JNU or socialist or leftist professor. He has given a lot of insights. We can't be stereotypic always before watching such episodes. Great work by "Neon Show". Any student of "Economics" or any concerned citizen will find many insights in this podcast, whether we fully agree or not with his viewpoint.
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@@TheNeonShoww Ashok Gulati- agricultural economist, Madhav Gadgil- Ecologist, specially about his work on Western Ghats. I know they are octogenarians and difficult to invite them. However, I would like to see them on this podcast.. Thanks.
Very eye opening, more people need to see this.
Really appreciate your kind words and we hope to continue to get your support in future episodes as well! 🤍
he wants to take india back to the 70s, 80s and 90s. my mother worked in a nationalised bank, thus i am more than acquainted with the working of these banks. i am witness to the improvement in banking infrastructure and transparency with the advent of technology. same thing applies to working of the post office services. human interference makes the system inefficient as was observed in the banks, post offices, and in LIC. if one asked a secondary LIC agent for any official help, they would decline to help unless one do these agents a favour by opening a new policy with them. i think this man has never faced such hassles of mundane life. i find his words delusional, as the policies he suggests have all been tried for decades without an ounce of success.
ask your mother how much stress there is now
@@ygp47 😂😂 what stress? Bank employees apart from probably sales representatives are probably the most relaxed people, very little work plenty of holidays and fixed timings.
@@gtgd_797 not anymore .. too much pressure and too many people quitting
@@ygp47my uncle worked at $bi till 2007-8 he used to be home by 3.30pm, I worked in Indus!nd at 2019-21, even at 8.30-9pm I have to work
@koushiksarkar2809 You are confusing yourself with privatization and implementation of technology with his core argument on ways to lift up 94% of people in unorganized sector. His point is empower unorganized sector - be it via technology skills, via cooperatives such as amul butter, via ensuring they get political voice, relieve them from demonetization and GST. Free Education thinking is so crucial to bring about technological prowess that Apple's of the world bring about. Even 5% of what was discussed in the podcast is implemented, India can take developed economies head on. No doubt about it.
I am an admirer of Prof. Arun Kumar. Always a pleasure to listen to his words of wisdom and expertise. ❤
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Education system is the subject of State govt. But your professor doesn't mention it a single time. Corruption of teacher's recruitment is huge problem in some states. If you choose your govt on the basis of free electricity free mobile or 1000 rupees per month.
Prof must give data of what happens in first 60 years for employment , education and health. In last 10 years lift from bottom pyramid is happening by 300 mm mudra loan .
how can he? Data are collected by govt , but they are fake especially for past 15 years
use your head
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...this is a government which not merely manipulates its statistics, but more importantly, uses every number possible to try and create this impression with a lot of investment in propaganda. And therefore, this is something which has been bought by the media, as you say, not merely in India, but across the world...
True
He is a pseudo economist
bhaktidiot spotted
Just finished this full podcast & it took me many days to complete because i was so busy & i don't like to listen/watch podcast too but as a student of economics( Doing PG In economics from MSEPP) i listened this podcast in very attentive way and some part of the video i have heard more tham twice.I want to appreciate the podcaster for asking questions in very short and precised way & letting the prof Arun kumar ji respond to it's full extent of the question. Being an economics lover i used to listen Arun kumar ji since my childhood days when he used to come in panel discussion of NDTV. But today after so many years again i have heard him with much attention he has explained various aspects of the economy with very lucid and detailed way. and at the end as you said that you would like to do more conversation with the prof. So it's my humble request to you please do asap i'll be waiting for the next podcast with Prof Arun kumar ji.
30/10/2024 Wednesday 12:36PM
Hey Nilesh, we really do appreciate your kind words and for sharing your thoughts with us... We are hoping to maintain a hosting style that allows for our guests to be as comfortable as possible and answer questions the way they want to without any inclination to quickly move on from one topic to another. We are working hard to set up a round 2 with Arun sir so stay tuned for further updates! 🙏
@@TheNeonShoww thanks a lot for the response sir. Wishing you all the very best and sending you lots of love & support from mumbai.
03/11/2024 Sunday 09:40AM
Too much talk of "we need to spend x percent of GDP". He should talk more about the efficiency of the spend .
If you want effective efficiency in any work you have to spend on R&D.
It is governmrnt duty to ensure that
Bhai tu bahut bara economist banega😊
Its there uncle
Laurd lapakdas spotted
Interesting interview. Mr. Arun Kumar has very deep understanding of Indian economy. Experts like him should be in the planning of government policies and advisors to government.
Arun sir definitely has a very strong grasp of the development process in rural/urban areas and we are very grateful we could bring him on board. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us!
Very candid and blunt analysis of the mismanagement of Indian Economy by ruling parties. Thanks to Prof. Arun Kumar.
In India,People in unorganized them doesn't want to be organized,not wanted to pay taxes,income tax & do business mostly in cash & they make huge amount of money
How much do you think unorganised workers earn ?
@@Neelinmact i am talking about business owners not workers
Is this professor for real? He completely ignores the fact that India made starting a new business almost impossible between 1956 and 1991. The policies he is recommending were tried for many decades with disastrous results. If education and health was so important, India should have outpaced Pakistan for decades. For the longest time Pakistan’s per capita income was higher than that of India. In fact, Europe spends more on education (e.g. free college) yet they lag US technologically and economically. That’s because, Europe has the same socialist and anti-business policies he is advocating. China has surpassed India because it allowed foreign companies set up businesses and allowing them to exploit their labor. He is right on unemployment being a problem. However, his solutions are totally ineffective. This sounds like unending list of everything that’s wrong.
Basically education and health are not that important for you 😂. Human capital is the utmost determinant in development of any country. Free market kar do, bahar ke companies la do but who is gonna work for them? Education is not important but quality education is.
Yep quality of education is very important to , in kerala they are saying 100 percent literate which is a lie even now you can find people who are not literate, the data portrayed by the state or government is not correct, I agree with the economist when he says data is not correct
Yeah and become like fucking south korea, where a person goes bankrupt every 12 seconds while the chaebols capture every single sector, leaving government's only job to be aggressively dissipating protests on any human rights issues . Very beautiful for the top 1%, "Hell Joseon" for the common man.
In china it only works because money and political power are completely separate, that is the only reason it's socialist. No one wants to be the richest person in china. Japan has a 50% INHERITANCE TAX, low inflation, and an economy completely stagnated since late 80s due to US interventions.
You are complicit in the US neoliberalism or are utterly devastated by it. the former eventually leading to the latter. It's only one class that's constantly getting richer dispite all the depressions... Capitalism does not exist due to virtue but due to the efforts in massacres and poverty.
Insensitive government doesn't have social security
Which policy are you referring to that he wants to be implemented ? Give specific examples from the video
Woow sir impressive..That kind of mindset India required. It will be best if you become the Finance Minister of India.❤❤
I have been in Bangalore for more than four decades. The biggest problem is we don’t have worker, a security guard gets around 15-20 K, the driver gets around 20-35 K, the house maid for three hours get about 6-8 K. This person is still in his old thought he needs to step out and see the world. Yes people are definitely ready to do anything to get a government job as they are more eager to get the bribe than anything else. This is my personal opinion.
I fully agree. It is not only the attraction of bribe but also the comfort of zero accountibility
Yes sir
No iis not just bribe its more of social security and dignity
You r correct.
A very small portion of india lives in metro Cities....70 percent of India's population live in rular area... daily wage is below 100rs 😂 there is a famous quote in Hindi सावन के अंधे को सब हरा ही नजर आता हैं
Kudos to the host for allowing the guest to speak at length without interrupting. Great host and thank you! Unlike other podcasts where hosts repeatedly interrupt the guests which make them lose track of important information to be delivered and get distracted. Keep up the good work 👏👏👏
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I read some of the comments and couldn’t understand them. The guest made great sense to me. Yes some parts require bit of an understanding of micro and macro economics. It’s was a great podcast.
Mostly these are college students who don't want to hear criticism of current government economic policy, if he had talk about gdp growth and applaud economic policy comment section would have been different
he is from JNU he will always make sense but when it's for implementation they start saying this was not the real idea as they say it russia and china is not true communist nation
they are bhaktidiots who dont want to admit that their God Vishwaguru ignored informal sector
@@aman3047 abbe chapri, criticism of government is fine but calling a BS in not BS. u have BS in ur brains that's y u are not making any sense. Discussion is this speaker is living in koko land and u are saying "who don't want to hear criticism of current government economic policy" this guy is spelling BS for congress era also. But u are not able to comprehend that??
@@aman3047😅😅😅 bjp slave.. Biggest wrong doing is high tax .. Low savings low private investment
Excellent... wide coverage of the situation in Bharat... whether one agrees or not... 👍👍👍👍
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one of the prime reasons for low level of tax payers base is because agriculture income is non taxable and crores are hiding their income as agriculture income..you can take Punjab for case study
Well, he is not addressing tax payers base. He is addressing the concerns of unorganised sector. On your point of taxing agri income - special reference to Punjab. Average income of Punjab farmer is Rs.26701= 3.2 Lakhs per annum is far below taxable income. It is possible very small percentage of farmers are rich above taxable slab, but they are very small. Inspite of Punjab being highest per family income in agriculture, lowest in Jharkhand/ Odisha with mere Rs.5000/- per month, 60,000/- per year - you want to tax them?? we were 60% agri dependent families in 1950s, stands are 40% agri income dependent families. In developed countries only 15% of population does farming which is sufficient to feed the entire country. Spend time reading Swaminathan Committee report to understand how agriculcure works in India and what transformation needed.
@@தமிழ்ராஜன்you are missing the fact that agri income tax exemption helps people who have agri connections but make ton of money from other sources evade taxes. Remember the controvery Amitabh Bacchan registering himself as farmer.
Every state should be taken into account.
Daughter of Shahrukh kan is also a agriculture person.
Is the agriculture income taxable in China? Is it not correct that agriculture sector is the most subsidised sector in USA and Europe? With agriculture income why you want to destroy the back bone of the economy in the aftermath of land reforms?
Great information, glad to hear.
Thank you so much Sir.
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i have listened to many podcasts on indian economy and read books on it but this is the best podcast with immense knowledge pouring out
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Worst leftist economist who kept India poor from leftist policies of Congress that he supports giving us useless gyan
Superb interview. Arun Kumar is a rare intellectual who understands the ground realities and is NOT afraid to say as it is - helps the listener to see through the smoke and mirrors. Thank you.
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Excellent podcast. I am now encouraged to read all his books. Thank you for bringing this economist to our attention.
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This is really a great podcast.. Professor brought out critical and contrarian thoughts in best way possible ... We want more ...
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i have deep respect for ARUN KUMAR sir....earlier i have seen his interview explaining demonetization so nice.....i am fan of him
I think this gentleman’s data itself needs a peer review! And coming from JNU, I would treat his info with a huge pinch of salt. His protocols and data collection methods need to be reviewed before his analysis is wholly accepted!
Our current Finance minister and our current External affairs minister also studied in JNU, fyi.
Yea bot we know where u came frm a330
@@Rajakji99 asshole talk sense!
I believe this guy. Thank you my brother for enlightening us. ❤
Sure , it is necessary to strengthen the net of social protection for the poor . But any plan for an economic revival will be incomplete without accompanying efforts to revive the purchasing power of India's large middle class.
Large middle class?
Ur right bro *tiny middle class compared to China
Thank you Neon for such a good discussion on this topic without propaganda and agenda. And the Speaker is very knowledgeable and experienced in this topic. I have been listening him since he used to come on lok Sabha and rajya Sabha TV but because of recent government development, it is no longer worth watching.
God save this guy's students. For the unorganised sector - no taxes, cash transactions and hidden wealth were their main outputs since 1947. Who stopped them from getting organised?they were happily living in a society without contributing income taxes and compliance burdens like the organized sector. Now with GST and digitization, they are crying foul.
Atleast they were able to keep their family employed......that's what is most important. That's the first thing u want and paying income tax is secondary. The first thing you need is that people are employed at least. God save your students😂
Who asked them to not get organised … this statement shows the level of knowledge you have …lol ..
Found two Chintu/Mintu factory enthusiasts in your comments. 😂
Bro 😂😂 please atleast comment logically every business is un organized at some point to get organised to other point not all business people in any country have power to become organized you can see china america or any country so dont impose gst on in organized sector instead do something to make them organised
That people can still do after being oragnised @@saif9765
Wow, this is insightful and informative. Thank you Professor!
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He expressed real facts happening now in India...Everyone should watch this ...👌👌👌
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I have been watching him since he was regular in “the big picture” Rajya Sabha tv , he along with Nitin desai were the best ,
Most sensible podcast , correctly educated guest with no political agenda
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The guest has not given any data about how many neighborhood stores closed due to e-commerce.
In my area (tier 1 city) neighborhood stores have actually grown.
This kind of podcast should be done frequently to spread awareness through this channel.
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Thank you so much Neon for this source of knowledge and wisdom!
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Mr. Arun Kumar showed us the mirror. But if one doesn't want to look? This exactly what's going on around!
Leftists like Mr. Arun Kumar were part of the set-up that ruled India for sixty years. Why didnt they implement all the 'should have done' and 'should do' he is pointing out?
There are hundreds of nuances in unorganised sector too, such farmers, micro entrepreneurs, contractors, money landers earning in crores, but it's very very easy to hide income in this sector, so private data might seems declining.
But lots of things you're talking are on point, but still I'll prefer to see people's expenditure rather than tracking their income as tracking Income is not easy at all, but detailed expenditure tracking could be done.
Brilliant 👏 👏 👏 just blown my mind with his knowledge 👏 👌
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We dont need more school and colleges we already enough,just ask the fees of normal school minimum 8000 fees they demanded ,we need factories in our area for jobs not college and school
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Not only we need more n more schools with world class infrastructure and affordable fees structure but we also need to remove certain bottlenecks like child marriage, potholes on roads, absence of roads😂, surplus income so that parents dont engage their kids doings family business
Such an ignorant comment
Prof has done a positive economic analysis of India's economic history.Institutional economics teaches that market economy can give the desired results only when institutions generate trust transparency and share required information which can help in decision making Census data should be conducted and analysis should be done at the earliest. The normative side requires more fairness on financial matters and simplify governance of the tax system like gst to upgrade the unorganised sector. Unorg sector is no doubt is a cause of corruption . Where do they borrow from from? local moneylenders. Why standards are not met in production for example, immitating brands selling spurious good and these goods are available for the unorganised sector to sell. So much of the goods and services produced and sold are in the unorganised sector. So how is the nation going to get its taxes.the nexus between unorganised sector and blackmoney sector funding their activities is huge. Several forms of illegal activities will continue to emerge . Govt must support employment generation otherwise this unorg sector will suffer and black money will continue to only grow . A condolidated talk .
For people like him, as long as congress was at the helm there was absolutely no problem.
It is these very people with communist ideology who are responsible for everything that happened till 1991.
These theoretical economists have not helped any economy either in India nor in US.
Awesome interview with lots of insights about education, economy etc...
Professor Arun kumar is great❤
Hats off to Arun sir ....since the time I read his book on black economy in india I m huge fan of his intellect
Thank you so much for this interview 🙂👍👍👍
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Wealth tax, inheritance tax, high MSP on everything. Mathematical problems to biological problems. The population is an organism of its own. Can’t just stop this. Start that.
Things have 2nd, 3rd and 4th order ripple effects. It’s not as easy as he thinks.
Excellent Analysis of Indian Economy.
What ever he told as threats are same as 200 years ago, people said about industrial revolution. So these disruption are part of development. There are more works in auto industry than before, so that industry can improve productivity they employ robots. Let's not blame industry also not the government we have to have a drive to improve our life, we need to work on it.
Ohh is that so how will you where will you get the job yours is employed by a robot or an ai , the skillls that you got would be replaced by a robot and you think you will survive with such empty rhetoric ,, increasing productivity along with increasing human employment is the need of the hour ,, not just automation ,,
@@Neelinmact braaa braa braa
Excellent. The man is honest in his assessment of the Indian economy unlike the government! Some viewers may not like the fact that he has highlighted the governments failed policies and their creative accounting and manufacture of statistics to suit their agenda. It is good that he deals with the unorganized sector as there is a popular misconception that there are many jobs in India. The fact remains that this sector accounts for 90 percent of workers including those in the gig economy.
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The guest is a good logical and analytically focused Ecomist. The current top to bottom and capital intensive approach to growth is directly coming from the West and the US. The suggested bottom-up approach is coming from PR of China and CCP where CCP and Chinese decision-makers have not increased the billionaires pollution of China but brought about 850 Million Chinese out of poverty. From this discussion, I concluded that having a large number of the billionaire population in a country is a curse for the majority of population and a direct indicator of the growth of poverty.
You should look up how many Chinese billionaires there are. You should see stats on personal consumption in China. I suspect you will develop a strong preference for the Western model at that point.
Lol😂😂😂 Chinese have followed Western model at more deeper level.
In west too there r two type of models one which was followed by Germany japan and now China which industrialised them and other was by Brits and Americans which financialised their economy .
There is nothing called bottom up model in china. In china targets plans all forced from top. At bottom one has to implement and bring results one way or other.
But biggest Concept which both west and china followed was Printing huge amount of money . Providing massive credit . China has 300 to 400% us has 250%. India has 70% of GDP.
Bith west and china has hidden their data and thiz Ponzi scheme for most of the time.
These ecnomist like Arun Kumar were ruling the nation for last 70 years why they cudnt achieved anything and only r shouting today
Imagine if GoI passed an order banning every single language and made it that all education will be done in two languages, Hindi and lesser degree Hinglish. Students will get an education to become factory workers by default and only the top 5% will get academic education.
In 12-18 years you will have a generation that can talk to anyone across India in a factory or trade setting but you killed your language and culture. Don't fret I described China of the 1980s, the languages are Putonguah and Pinyin. Indians think this is bottom up.😂
Bro here you are are little bit wrong as chinese is autocracy they at the time of 1980 in starting used the top to bottom approach like west but after 1995 they used the bottom to top approach china used both approches because they are authoritarian and they know when and how to change
How many India has brought out of poverty!?
He must be the finance minister of india. Our current finance minister and our PM having Only time to do religious politics only.
Reality is that although British left us 70+ yrs ago but the colonial mindset is still prevalent and Politicians and people in power (regardless of which party they belong to or their ideologies) don't want the common Indian citizen to be educated, because they just want blind followers who don't question the system and the authority...and that's why they make such policies and don't spend much on education...moreover they have built big universities such as IITs IIMs AIIMS and still going on, but never pay attention to the basic primary education
Excellent congratulations keep it up please do episode and give policy frame work to government for growth of unorganised sector
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...this is a government which not merely manipulates its statistics, but more importantly, uses every number possible to try and create this impression with a lot of investment in propaganda. And therefore, this is something which has been bought by the media, as you say, not merely in India, but across the world...
okay, we’re not talking about a 7% rate of growth, let’s say that, okay, let’s sort of favor the state as it were, and say that, okay, let’s say, maybe it’s 5%, maybe it’s 4.5%. '
Employment is low, unemployment is rising.
.economy growth..top 3, 4, 5%, maybe 3%. Yeah..
.. how China has a huge current account surplus, India has a borrowed surplus, and so on.....
Is India's economy truly thriving? Or is it exaggerating its growth?
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Very much informative with Clarity.
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I'm personally interested in how to transition the unorganised sector to organized one. What shld be the policies for this ? How to irreadicate black money completely ? It is good that demand is transitioning from unorganized to the organized sector. We have to just find a way to help the unorganized sector to assist this transition.
Everyone knows the problem. It would be helpful if people could provide the solutions.
I personally feel that if an impetus is given to disseminating quality education to all, even if it is not at a very high advanced degree level, but rather focuses on basic primary education, it may help. However, should we focus less on building infrastructure and more on disseminating quality education?
By the way, the word "semen" means seed, and "dissemination" means the dispersal of seeds. It is like planting trees, and these trees will produce seeds of their own. The word "dissemination" is used in the context of imparting education, technology, culture, and diseases.
Thanks for your efforts. Please bring great achievers on your channel to motivate 140 crore Indians in all aspects of life. Regards.
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Great man with clear concept, and hats off to the interviewer also ,he listened very calmly without interrupting so we got a great interview ❤
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Corruption is the biggest issue.he is the mother of all kind of problems...
This is the crap taught in JNU…😂
Problem is there's no bhakt economist produced in sakhas. Only crap politicians are produced there.
Deny till this crap gets to you too.. unless you are in the circle of the elite oligarchs
What he said after 42:00 Rajiv Dixit has also said that. Corruption is the biggest issue in India. MNCs did not kill the Rajiv Dixit. He was killed by A Jaichand.
This was a great conversation. There are no short-term and easy answers but at least there the right questions to ask.
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One of the best video i have seen after long time far better then viral youtubers. Please invite more economist from University of Connecticut, Harward, Cambridge etc... to help explain how much deep shit we are in. Unless people realize there is no way out, and enough fear is generated, only will societal change is really possible. Why do people hesitate to do simple electrical, plumbing jobs that can pay them well, and allow decent earning !!! Summary at the end with bullet points is so much needed as the content is so down to the point.
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Government instead of funding good universities should invest in good primary education.
University is not required now a days. Anyone can study on their own if base is strong.
Dear Sir,
Thank You for honesty and good intention for India better future.
Excellent comments
Great podcast Siddharth, keep grow & invite other economist like him also
Really appreciate your kind words and we will definitely work hard to bring the most diverse set of guests possible for future episodes! 🙏
@@TheNeonShoww Indeed
Excellent decesion
India is gradually moving towards a failed state and those in better positions are moving abroad.rather than face the stifling system.
Instead of Populist measures to drain the economy we should focus on unorganised sector msme.
Focus on microeconomics and work upwards next level to improve lot of 60 % of people.
Govt should cut down its own expenses except critical areas.
UP and Bihar must be held accountable for their POOR performance... If these 2 states were not there India would be nearly a high income country
Excellent and realistic analysis....needs to be shared in all media
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Looks like JNU professor is completely lost, does not understand power of infrastructure. It will improve the life of all remote villagers as they won't be remote village now bringing in good schools , hospitals, shops, reststraurants which will generate many jobs and farmers will get local markets for their produce. They will get access to nearby city markets and can get fertilizers due to cheap transport. Later solar parks also may come..
The problem is we are spending way more than other economies in developing our infrastructure, that too exceptionally low quality ones. So we are actually losing money building infrastructure.
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Those who have grievances about the idea or analysis given here are either motivated or are ill digested about the subject matter. I would like to thank the anchor for presenting us with a vivid picture of the Indian economy..
Iam not any party supporter but sometimes i feel where were these intellectual or economist in 1990s to before 2010, why didn't they then talked about growth,unorganised sector problem, infrastructure problem, economy problem. The time when china and other countries were changing, growing in technology, indian government then was sinking our country in corruption and making our country poor without proper infrastructure. Most of the problem we are facing now is a result of these old intellectuals who kept their silence in 90s without questioning government.
Ready newspaper editorial of 1990s to before 2010.
Before 2010s you needs to go to a library to find the knowledge now it comes to ur mobile. So before 2010 people like you used to go cinema and picnic instead of a library. So in India Cinema is bigger than industries . 😅
Because they are leftist means leftover
Because it was well taken care by Congress until 2014, such economists are the real deed that stopped top-down approach, thanks to AAP we now understand that bottom-up is the key, same as USA. Have you not heard, Hum jab aaye thae, jeb mein $5 laye thae.
China’s shenzen moved from a fishing village to electronic world hub within 10 years and so did Singapore… we can always blame the government.. but we can’t ignore the reality..which is very harsh if u r poor
Excellent Interview which everybody needs to watch who really cares about development and personal growth.
Education reform needs to be done by high quality online certifying examinations for every degree - simply pouring money into buildings and professors will not bring results. Today high quality lectures on any subject can be found on TH-cam and you do not need classrooms and teachers except for schooling upto 10th standard. Today in India you can get any degree because the examination system which is the fundamental quality check of knowledge is corrupt as everything else in this country.
Correct. That is what Sanjeev Sanyal also said.
Nice eye opener discussion reflecting the economics of the country and its effects in different sectors and different segments of the country , but clearly not for everyone.
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