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- Mike Greenberg and Hembo attempt to make sense of the Denver Broncos' decision to accept an $85M hit in dead money over the next two seasons for releasing QB Russell Wilson before speaking on QB Daniel Jones' contract and the New York Giants not placing a franchise tag on RB Saquon Barkley.
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How overrated Payton keeps getting a pass like he's some great coach is beyond me.....He had 1 lucky superbowl run with Drew Brees ......besides that he has mediocrity and bounty gate tbh
Thx Sir ur correct
@@aramayowright3079
Sean Payton record:
Regular season: 160-97 (.623) you were saying
right that man had a gold jacket there all that time won one ring lol
@@navschannel3908Regular season merchant
Payton is a great offensive coach, if you've watched the Saints over the years, there's was great play calling going on, but like any coach, they still need the right players for their offense. He may be a guy that does well with only the players that he selects. Payton's a guy that could do well with someone like Brock Purdy, Kirk Cousins, Jared Goff, players that execute the play as designed, someone the opposite of Russ who was at his best improvising.
One of the few professional sports transactions where I feel like it was CLEARLY personal.
Russel sucks. Watch the games
@@angelvazquez1482why not pay him to be the backup. He's getting paid on or off the roster
@@zackrenfro270he’s a distraction
@@angelvazquez1482clearly you wasn’t watching the games🤡
@@angelvazquez1482And you’re a expert
I agree with Greeny 100%. I hope the Bears, Commanders, and Patriots do not let the Broncos trade up for a QB! Let them suffer. They get what they deserve!
You know these r the same people who made fun of Wilson last year.
@@bridger1172yup maybe bronco fans shoulda not let them brainwash them the media plays sides. They tricked Denver out of a qb and are paying the hc just as much 😆
What kind of draft capital does Denver even have after the Russ trade?
Still waiting for the 49ers to get what they deserve for trading 700 1st round picks for a QB who isn’t on the team anymore. Their monumentally brain dead decision got them to the SB somehow….
@@oscarr8597literally none for like 2 years lol
I need more Greeny rants in my life. Keep em coming my g
Bro! Everyone knows this! My grandmother could go on rant about Russel Wilson being bad move for broncos! Gotta be kidding me! Why is this news. If he said something that was crazy and it came true than ok. But this is a bunt
@@Johnnyrocks34 I’m not praising him specifically for his take on this Russel Wilson situation. I just find it entertaining when Greeny gets fired up.
@@franciskim8558 I hear u. I don’t mean it towards u. Football has gotten so watered down w fake experts over the years. Gotten just ridiculous. Greeny doesn’t know football. Him going on rant to me is like pee wee Herman going on rant about football. He never played football at any level. Never coached. He grew up a rich kid playing tennis. Everyone knows broncos screwed up w Wilson. I just find it funny. Headline. Greeny slams broncos. Who cares! Ask him who the will linebacker is. He ll look at you like ur nuts
It is criminal they are going to give Payton 3 more years minimum
Organizational failure is signing a player to a 5 year, $245 million dollar extension before they play a single down for your team.
Why don't you talk to the former owners, which Greeny should mention more in this.
The former owners were the ones who traded for Russell Wilson, but it was new ownership that signed him to an extension. If you do your research.
Russell not a bad QB I blame this mess on Payton and if Russell go to Steelers game changer but let's wait and see how Denver do know Mr
That’s the one
The broncos should of never traded for him in the first place they have needed a full rebuild since 2017
All. Of. This.
I been saying it for years.
Excellent. Thank-You Greeny , ESPN , and HEMBO . Not on Twitter anymore , cut the cord. Very Happy I was able to watch GET UP and this here on You Tube. Greeny , you were as mad here as sad on Achilles night. You are the Best. ❤
The Broncos essentially handed Russ the team when he was traded. Instead of being treated like a player, he was sensationalized and given so much further than a welcoming gift. It was doomed from the start. They gutted their franchise of its future, a few nice pieces on their roster, and hired a coordinator to be their head coach who had no experience outside being Aaron Rodgers’ buddy. Then they brought in the Doc Rivers of the NFL, Sean Payton and you saw how he treated his QB.
They gave Sean Payton the exact same luxuries that was given to Russell!
@@804MRMANhe’s the coach…
@@usopenitentiary What's your point 😏 He's a mediocre coach.
@@804MRMAN mediocre coaches don’t come in and instantly boost your win total. And if it wasn’t for Russ disappearing in certain games, Denver would’ve been in the playoffs this season instead of 8-9. But Payton is the mediocre one
Well said
Thank You
Great show!
lol I saw 'Greeny Rants' and I don't CARE what the topic is, I'M IN!
Absolutely on the money!!! Greeny is right. At one time I was a Broncos fan. The new regime has cured me of this sad misjudgment of mine.
I agree with Greeny 101%
%1000
I cant wait to see when Payton falls flat. Think about it this way: if you were a top tier QB (where are they?) would you want to play with a coach who throws you under the bus, berates a 34 year old QB in front of the team & HOME fans, asks you to take a pay cut, waive an injury clause in your contract and then blames you for all the offensive shortcomings ALL IN ONE SEASON? Football karma will come back to him in BIG way. The one thing you have to give Wilson is he takes care of the ball (8 ints last season). He got Sutton a career year in TDS. I will love how to see the "offensive guru" that is Payton fixes this terrible offense. What QB in their right mind would play with him?
Let's be fair. The only ex seahawks that were saying negative things about Russ seem to get arrested often for DUI. Russ was drafted in the 3rd round of the NFL draft. He has been to two Superbowls and won one. The man is a winner in my books.
Just because someone gets a DUI doesnt make there opinion invalid. They would have won that superbowl if they would have ran it instead of putting the game in Russells hands
It does speak to their judgment and honesty. We all know that coach Carroll made the call. He wanted to show New England that they made a mistake firing him.
Lets ride
Finally somebody told big picture about Sean Payton. With this move he bought himself 3 years of not doing anything except just coming to coach. In next 2 years they can't do anything because of that dead cap money they can't sign and have good players and have good roster and in 3rd year Broncos can start recovering, but they won't be nearto be competetive team. He milked that Walmart money better than anyone else.
I blame the entire Broncos front office failed on Russell Wilson. Russell was trying his hardest to make the team better with Sean Payton as coach. But tell me what I’m telling lies. Broncos made one of the dumbest trades that they’re regretting trading Russ.
Fyi to the new people to the Broncos, their old owners got tens of millions more for having Russ than not having Russ on the roster. Not justifying it to the fans, but the old owners made bank destroying the franchise after Pat died.
Greeny on fire. Making so much sense.
I'm what world is Justin Fields " insurance" aka a backup to Daniel Jones??? I swear I hate the media.
Both are below average-bad QBs. I'd rather roll the dice on a rookie than have either as my QB.
As a Broncos fan, everything Greeny said about the organization is 100% true. This franchise has been making terrible, misguided, desperate moves for over a decade. Now, I am not a fan of Wilson at all, I think he’s terrible. But the critiques of the organization are all correct.
The reason I’d maybe keep Wilson is because he’s such a good guy. So many people in this world are terrible annoying people but he’s actually one of the few good people there are.
Austin , if Wilson is such a good guy /player where are all the players crying and screaming about him. Of course I’m not talking about the media whose job is to blow things up. When traded from Seattle to Denver ; crickets- silence,, now that he’s been cut from Denver I’ve seen 3 Denver players who commented a little bit 🤔 Regardless if you want to believe it or not but Wilson is a diva , name 1 QB who has their own office in the facility, personal coaches , etc…. Diva
@@bobdees6428he was given 4 parking spots and his own office. Not even Tom Brady was given that. Russell is such a diva
hes fake- hes a scumbag. Its all an act
He’s a platitude machine it’s not very genuine at all. More robotic the dude showed no emotion when they were getting hammered in just drank his Gatorade and went back out and lost. That’s not what you pay someone a quarter of a billion to do
Greene was the one bashing Wilson now he’s on his side lmao the media is funny
Greeny is right. And this is coming from a lifetime Broncos fan. But their mistake was to sign him in the first place, not to release him.
Well if they wanted to sign him o.k. BUT to give away the farm for him was totally NUTS!! To give him all of that money, (which by the way, he has one more year AND they have to pay him it's all in the contract).
I think I'm the only Broncos fan who knows Russ was a QB to sell the team to a new ownership group. That's it, why you guys made it more to begin with and are now mad you overhyped yourselves is funny but I was mocked by everyone in Denver for saying Russ without a true west coast offense just doesn't work.
Exactly! They had us trauma bond with Russ then cut him loose. His haters are happy, but the rest of us know how bad the next era is going to be. Being a Broncos fan is not for the weak.
The man who helped engineer the trade is still Bronco GM?
Payton doesn't play Wilson the last 2 games because management is suddenly afraid he might get hurt & cost them over 30 million dollars? Therefore blowing a chance at the playoffs.
Now they pay him 85 million over 2 years not to play for them?
I'm shocked & stunned at the idiocy of these bizarre decisions.
Sean should have waited out the Chargers job. Although, I think the Chargers should have cut Stayley loose a year before they did. If they would have I think Sean would be a Charger right now.
Broncos fan here. I watched every down of Russel Wilson's play over the last two seasons.
They got it right at the end. What it comes down to is that Wilson can't run the offense that Payton wants to run with any type of consistency.
Do Wilson and Payton just not like one another? Possibly.
But this comes down to on field performance and Payton wanting another QB.
And, yeah, I would bet that Payton made it clear to Greg Penner during his interviews for the job that this may very well be the eventuality.
Broncos are now officially in a re-build.
It’s crazy all broncos wanted to do was win, now we’re gonna lose like crazy. Potentially getting a high 1st round pick if we don’t trade up.
I fully expect them to trade up and give away any future high draft picks in order to select the 4th or 5th best QB in the draft... It's the Broncos way at this point 🥲
Bro, we been losing for 8 years now.
@@SkunkLifeMediaAnd Sean Payton bought us several more yearsof losing.
#Greeny 💯 accurate...#SeanPaytonSucks
I seen this coming from a mile away..#GODBLESS #RusselWilson
LEAGUE NEEDS TO INVESTIGATE AND ADMINISTER DISCIPLINE TO THE BRONCOS. Imagine I have a contract… I won’t change such contract to screw my self over…. Now I get BENCHED. Nahhhhhh bruh. AINT NO WAY
Please put a New York Jet on the cover of Madden 25....... PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!! hahahahaha
They traded away a king’s ransom for Russ and gave him MILLIONS that he didn’t earn. He did them wrong, not the other way around.
He’s a sneaky cancer. He knew what he was doing when he did that interview with Brandon Marshall and I think that was the final straw. Yes the Broncos botched this, but Russ wasn’t free of blame either. The guy sucked. I see now why so many ex-Seahawks players hated him.
Seriously no one remembers the former owners, who got Russ to sell the team for more? Blame the Bowlens, they did Pat wrong.
Yes! Cause Greeny sure is an expert when it comes to football! Whenever I wanna hear what’s going on in Football I watch Greeny! He s my number one football guy! He knows how organizations should be run! His experience is unmatched ! No one else In sports knows Russel Wilson was bad move for broncos! How does he know that? Someone told me he also went on rant saying Panthers were not good this season and need to get better! This guy has knowledge
Someone needs to look deeply into the people's bank accounts that had anything to do with this trade, what they gave up should have been for a Stafford, Rodgers, Allen, staus type player, which he has never been.
Only one talking about Dallas being an all time defensive was Dallas
That’s not true When Dallas was beating up on the Jets and Giants last season early the national media noise was about how great the Cowboys were….until the played the Niners and got exposed. Dallas had lost to the Cardinals and that was explained away as a fluke by the chattering class. Dallas didn’t get a win against a team with a winning record until late in the season by which time the losers on ESPN had moved on to the Tush pushing Eagles as the team to beat
Where was greeny when he said this about the bears but never mentioned the McCaskey’s or Ted Phillips by name? If that is his defacto second team cause of his love for Chicago. I agree with you greeny and you’re usually on the money but keep the same energy and be consistent
I feel bad for Bronco fans
John Mara is so goofy and drunk on nostalgia, he’ll probably hire bill lol.
Yes 🙌 that’s why the giants are a laughingstock they stuck in the past it’s time to come up 🔝 to the future
None of these guys follows what happens in Denver. If you wanna know about this topic, go to Mark Schlereth.
Don't know what Mark said specifically, but did it involve the shame that the Bowlens did to Pat's name?
It wasn't necessarily the trade, but the prove-nothing extension was malpractice.
They signed Russ to sell the team, if you look at it more than as just that then you can come up with some wild conspiracies that can go anywhere.
Also you can't just hand any QB who comes in the keys to the franchise, Russ wasn't Peyton Manning who could 100% run your offense every snap.(and honestly Peyton could likely have called your defense from the bench too, except he needed to let that 5 head get some air and rest at times😅)
Bears do not know what they have. I am a Giants fan and that contract was a mistake. In this league today, the RB is more of a liability. Saquan and DJ both have had major foot injures so there's the conundrum. I would give saquan alittle bit more money and take Justin Fields. In my opinion, the bears are idiots, caleb williams will go the route of Mark Sanchez and Sam Darnold. Reggie Bush is still the best acquisition coming out of USC.
Russ & Giants might be the fit we don’t expect
Except it was going to be a 2nd round pick for Wentz unless he played a certain amount of games and the Colts didn’t owe him any money when he left because the Colts traded him to the Commanders outright. So that’s a stretch.
Maybe it's time to add Sean Payton to the list of head coaches who owe their success to having a top qb of all time to carry them.
Russ has a history of winning. Russ went to the Superbowl twice, he won once, and a stupid play cost this his team to win a 2nd Superbowl. Comparing him to Wentz is crazy. Casual asf.
I wish the masses hated on John Lynch for doing all this. They find it super easy to love him......
Brain DaBoll did not make Josh Allen ,Josh Allen made Brain Daboll
"justin fields has a similar skillset to josh allen" i turned it off there..
Well it’s kinda true but I think you’re misunderstanding their point. They’re not saying fields is as good as Allen, just that they play quarterback in a similar fashion. Like Justin fields will use his legs to try to extend plays s lot, snd it’ll work 40% of the time. Josh Allen will use his legs to try to extend plays a lot, and it’ll work 80% of the time. It’s still fair to say that they are both QBs who use their legs to try ti extend plays, even though Josh Allen is so much better at it than fields that it’s not even funny
@@rohanshah7559 allen has way better vision, reads defenses way better. Only similsr thing is their legs
Where’s greeny
Jets too
Sean Paytons a Ego maniac thinks he’s the big tuna bill parcells
He's really going to call another organization out when he actually roots for the jets? Lol
Greeny rants but reluctant to mention Bronco management and ownership . Give us names .
lets ride Greeny
As a broncos fan, it’s gonna be a long rebuild. But it’s overdue. It’s time. Trade ps2 and get some picks. Take the Texans route.
Trade ps2 😂
@@valorousjoe22 with him we are a best a 5-12 team.
@@valorousjoe22 the teams only asset. Can get the Ramsay deal
No. You don’t trade PS2
Denver thought they would be able to surpass KC with Wilson 😅😅😅😅😅😅
Wasn’t it different ownership? Greeny this is a terrible take
Pat's familes did his reputation as one of the best owners in sports wrong, Pat Bowlen made the franchise and his family tore it apart. Pat was also huge on getting Sunday night football, and many other improvements fans cherish today.
Russ was top ten statistically last year
And that was with a coach who didn't want to get Russ to roll out as often, short QBs shouldn't be stuck in the pocket all game because they can't see what's happening.
Agree with Greeny Russell not his fault he took the money and he is who he is Super Bowl winner
If you think the Broncos are bad….just take a look at the Browns. My gawd 🙄
What would some lifelong New York Jets fan know about successful NFL football?
Greeny, be quiet! We made a mistake, we are correcting our mistake and moving on and so should you
Is John Elway overseeing the Bronco mess ?
sean should of never took this denver job. i thought he should of waited for stalley to get fired from LA
Sean Payton a mad man ???
Everyone needs to call for the GM's job. Wilson + Hacket ruined the team for 10 years
💯
Honestly, the Giants deserve to suck for paying Jones what they paid him.
If I'm in Mike Tomlin shoes, I would call Russ immediately and tell him to come to Pittsburgh & join The Steelers.
Sean Payton is the new Mike Shanahan. Drew Brees carried him to success like Elway did for Shanahan. The Broncos are to Sean, what the Redskins were to Mike. And we know what organizational failure that tenure was in Washington. Russ carried a 1-5 Broncos team to 7-6 and in playoff contention. Sean Payton failed Denver, not Russ.
All of Wilson’s former teammates did not dislike him and RW was well above average last year. State facts or don’t say it!!!
This was disaster from the signing and the extension without a owner or a head coach in place this is squarely on the GM George Payton and whoever was behind him to give Russ a extension without throwing a down let’s be real here
Albert Haynesworth is the worst transaction in sports history
And they are still a better franchise than the Jets.
I don’t think it’s fair to say Russ was EVERYTHING ex players of the Seahawks were saying. They were (and still are) salty about the Super Bowl loss to NE. Russ’ only downside is he’s too positive. Let’s bffr. The truth is Sean Payton is a smart coach, who was carried by an all time great in Drew Brees. He’s had mild success in the years since the Super Bowl.
It is someone's fault in Denver: John Elway. Nobody (but Denver Broncos Mile High View) calls him out. He traded for Wilson, and him and the trust signed him to that crazy contract. And, this new ownership won't get rid of him and his awful front office (and his nephew).
Lmao John elways been away from the team front office for 5/6 years already 😂stop blaming him
@@jab1289 he wasn't the GM then, as he even said he was a consultant not in charge of the new Front Office.
If you were a Broncos fan you would know who to really blame, the Bowlen family who disrespected Pat after his death by destroying what was in 2015 the best winning percentage in sports.
@@jab1289 that was his title when Russ was traded for in March 2022. Elway stepped down for Paton to become GM, and as Elway and Paton both said themselves Elway was an outside consultant in February 2022 when the team was put up for sale. They were trying to sell the team and got a QB with a ring to make it sell for a higher amount, also had to get rid of Elways presence since new owners would likely not want John around making decisions after he didn't really do a good job after 2015.
Very easy to look this all up, why don't you next time? And btw, blame Pat Bowlens family. Pat built one of the winningest franchises in sports, and his family destroyed it in less than 3 years after he died because they hated each other. Without Pat we don't have Sunday Night Football or certain rules regarding reply, he was also one of the first owners to hire specific trainers and chefs for the team facilities to help the players off the field become better on the field. Pat was great for the team and the league, and we can only hope with his family fighting gone they can be a better team going forward.
Only one season with Sean is crazy one season with jacket do t count lmao Russ got scapegoated broncos ain’t had a 1,000 yd wr since 2018 season
when the trade was made, it was obvious even to me (an average joe with no special knowledge) that Wilson had all his good years behind him
what an incredible bad decision
First the Broncos gave up the farm to hand it over to Russ. Then, since they didn't learn, they gave up the farm and got themselves into a cap hole to hand it over to Payton.
While the GM kept his job.
Stupid franchise.
Greeny really hates my broncos. 😂Win or lose broncos all day! 👏🏽
Russell Wilson had 1 bad year. Last year he had a good season with a coach that didn’t like him and in an offense that didn’t fit him. I bet you he is gonna be great in his next stop. As a giants fan I saw no way to bill belichick. He is too stuck in his old school ways. He has not adjusted at all to younger players like a Pete Carroll for example. Stay away please
I've been saying this for the last decade. The Broncos don't get enough credit for being among the most poorly run NFL organizations (or even pro sports as a whole). They aren't mentioned with teams like the Jets and White Sox much, but they should be.
"Last decade"? They won 1 more super bowl in the past decade than most teams, and went to 2 in 3 years right before that which again most franchises haven't done.
Former owner died and it went downhill as his family fought, simple story that happened a lot in sports.
@@Pickn4Goldnot to mention joe “dumber than my cousin George” Ellis ran out team into the ground for almost a decade
@@numbmoi why did Joe Ellis run the team? Because Pat died, and the 2 wives/familes he had couldn't let anyone lead the franchise so Joe was put in charge.(I agree he wasn't good, bit it's still on the Bowlen family for destroying what Pat built.)
@@Pickn4Gold I was just giving more info for other people calm down
@@numbmoi and I was giving a more complete story, so calm down yourself kid. You one of the spoiled Bowlen kids?
Sean Payton should have never gone to Denver and went somewhere that was more ready to compete. Now he’s in a major rebuild at the bottom of his division
Sean Payton is the 3rd best coach in his division now 😂
@@legitdragon6202 he should’ve stayed with the saints in that weaker division and he had more longevity.
Russell wasn't playing well enough to earn his contract. Plenty of players restructure their contract so I don't feel sorry for Russ. Honestly he's not that good anymore, he goes with the safe throws and can't really push the ball down the field. Broncos took the hit now rather than prolong the inevitable
Greeny is the best
Russ went to the Broncos due to ego. The Broncos traded the world for Russ cause they have no idea what they're doing and Payton took the insane bag. Not a surprise this blew up exponentially.
Stupid commentary. Payton was a great hire as coach. He didn't bring in wilson and wants to go a different direction. Smart move to cut bait and move on. And, yeah, Russ was fine last year for Payton (better than average) but he obviously cannot run the offense the way Payton wants the qb to play. It ain't necessarily personal at all; Russ was a good soldier last year.
Broncos going to shock the world and win the next super bowl .
I feel like they could have built around Russ a bit more and help him out but in the end of the day russ couldn’t win them games so they made the best decision.
Really you believe the Broncos team is that great they allowed 70 points on them
If Jerry wasn’t so far up his azz… he would sign Russ as the backup and give Mike the permission to pull Dak every game he pulls a Chokmo
This national media is very hypocritical. Last year on Greeny's very program on numerous occasions Russ was a punchline. A laughing stock. They he under performs and gets cut and now Russ is the victim and poor Russ. National media only looks at td's and ints. So much more to this story and can't wait for Broncos players to start speaking like Seattle players did on his Seattle exit.
you are wrong, wentz needed to win one game against the jags to make the playoffs and screwed the pooch. that is why they got rid of him.
the other green was better then this dude 100
And yet the 49ers can make an equally moronic decision and end up in the SB.
How george paton has a job still is beyond me
Who is George?
Denver can’t stick with Russell. Mobile QB’s don’t age well. If Denver stuck with Russ for another three years they would have gotten ridiculed for sticking with Russ too long. Russ played decent last year but the Broncos only won one game last year when the defense didn’t force more than two turnovers. If you’re a $250 million QB you shouldn’t have to depend on the defense bailing you out by creating turnovers to win games. QBs making $40 million a season should be able to win games on their own. Russ was never that guy that could ride him the entire season even back when he was in Seattle, he needed a good defense and running game. Denver should have known better to pay him like a franchise QB, mobile QBs go downhill fast in their 30’s.
Broncos have been suffering since the last SB. Also its a business. Russ is not a victim, he is still getting paid. A lot. To be mediocre, and now to not even play.
Barkley be free 🆓