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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 มิ.ย. 2024
- On today's episode of #Greeny, Mike Greenberg discusses...
0:00 What can the Bears learn from other teams?
0:42 Burrow vs. Williams
4:36 How often are No. 1 picked QBs the best in their class?
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Burrow. Over Everything.
Burrow broke records, went undefeated & won a natty in the SEC Division; came to the NFL & still balling
Caleb Williams 8-5 in pac 12 lol
@@dagger_rcn260Caleb didn’t have Chase, Jefferson, Elaire, and 9 nfl picks on defense.
@@deckardaaron neither do the bears. Best of luck
He did that as a 5th year senior. Caleb is leaving college in his 3rd year.
@deckardaaron elaire a bust. Burrow also targeted thaddeus moss a lot and that dude turned out to be hot garbage
Joe burrow was easily tbh he was probably the best college qb ever
Edit : guys burrow has had the best single years any college qp has ever had… his last year of lsu tops any college qb season and it’s not even close and I’m not 10 lol I know ball seems like y’all don’t
He also had the best weapons EVER
@@deckardaaron People keep forgetting that
Best college QB ever? Are you 10?
Best ever...
BS
And laughable
Yeah this isn’t even a debate
Espn asking stupider questions by the day
Not only is Hembo devoid of emotions, but clearly he’s devoid of words. SPEAK! dude just shaking his head in response on a show that is also radio broadcasted 😂
Why do ppl always say Burrow is the only good #1 pick playing as if Stafford and Goff don’t exist. 3 of the top 10 QBs in the NFL were #1 picks.
Goff is not like that. Stafford top ten qb though
It took the Stafford a few years and he had a HOF wr out the gate
@@Sleezygem Goff is currently a top 10 QB in the NFL not sure what you smoking
@@jharp08 It took Stafford a few years to get to the playoffs, but he was legit from the time he entered the league. Lions had a terrible roster, takes more than one wide receiver to make the playoffs
Well.. because he’s better
Dak is not definitely better than Goff…
Hey Greeny, Burrow was drafted in 2020, and Caleb Williams is OVERRATED
Joe Burrow walked into the league knowing how to actually play QB. Caleb is just freestyling. No comparison. Burrow is a Generational QB. Caleb just is an athlete.
I dont understand why people still act like Luck was the best quaterback in his draft. He was hurt half the time and retired young. I am not a cousins fan but you would have had him for a lot longer and Russel Wilson won a superbowl
Is this a real question, espn?
Burrow. Is this really up for discussion? They lived polar opposite universe.
Joe Burrow won a national title. N took the Bengals to the SB in his 2nd year.
And has ended half of his NFL seasons on IR.
because in a 4 year span he is the most sacked qb by far not even close you clown@@eugenewood721
@@eugenewood721oof💀
@@eugenewood721doesn’t change how good he is. I actually think he’s the best QB in the NFL right now. Yes, better than Mahomes
@@airgasmYT😂
Burrow by far
Great take by greeny. The question is who was the better prospect “when in college”…not when they’re a few years in the nfl. It’s like how people are now on the stroud bandwagon…stroud wasn’t the consensus top QB last year but people like to act like it wasn’t the case. Objectively as a prospect coming OUT OF COLLEGE, this comparison is extremely reasonable.
Not really if you know ball. Burrow was obviously elite. Williams has major holes in his game.
Burrow had the greatest season ever by a College QB.
1 season, the rest of his college career was very poor. And while he has lots of talent, in the NFL he is indisputably fast becoming injury prone. In 4 years, he has had 3 major injuries, starting a season because of one of them, and the other two ending his season on IR. That’s 50% percent of the seasons he has been in the league, he ends in IR.
Joe did not miss a throw in 2019. Genuinely.
What has caleb williams ever won?
Heisman
He beat an ELITE Colorado Team by 1 point😂😂😂😂
To me, the biggest difference between Burrow and Caleb Williams is leadership. Burrow just comes across as a natural leader that people want to go to war with. Caleb is talented but doesn’t look like a leader to me. At least not now.
Wait, dak over goff?! Thats crazt man. Goff has been to a sb and 2 championship games. Has dak ever played a game past the divisional round?
Dark better than Goff is wild..
Daniel jones n kyler murray are close? What did they smoke this morning?
Burrow at LSU had a ledgendary season and took the Bengals to the Superbowl.
Funny thing about putting "Generational talent" moniker, that's what they said about Trevor Lawrence, but Trevor is barely mid RN.😂
That’s the elephant in the room and why I don’t think Bears keep the pick. Poles was there when KC brought in Mahomes but he sat for a year and A Smith was a pro bowler and so was Hunt, Hill & Kelce with Reid at HC. Mahomes walked into a playoff team. Situations make players.
Caleb
Hands down
Lmfaooooo
Burrow all day.
Joey B is the franchise
you can have all the talent in the world but if you don't have the right CHARACTER you will fail. Burrow's character seperates himself from the rest. people can keep sayin ahh he has all the talent around him but the fail to acknowledge his ability to take over the game in the final moments. if you are down in a game with minimal time left that is where joe burrow shines. IF cincy gave him a o line like he had a lsu he would have a ring if not 2 already by now. in a 4 year span he is the most sacked qb and its not even close.
Caleb Dubb
To me, a UCLA/Nebraska fan for the past 26 years, Joe Burrow is the best college QB I've ever seen.
While he ultimately failed as expected in the pro game, Tebow had a pretty crazy college career - both in terms of accomplishments(individual and team) along with storyline. Joe had one great year, and the rest of his career was mediocre at best.
@@eugenewood721he lead his team to the sb in his second year and helps to turn the bengals franchise around you clearly dont watch football
Of course everybody's saying Burrow now 😂
At least Woody said he was using hindsight on his opinions.
Looking at them simply as college prospects, you can't tell me it isn't at least close.
Everyone knew Caleb was going #1 2 years ago!
We get that Burrow had a perfect last season. Now, tell me which receiver that Caleb was throwing to this year or even last year is comparable to Burrow's first and second receivers...?
You're out of your mind if you think Caleb wouldn't have set CFB on fire with that kind of talent.
Trevor also did that! Don’t forget cuz he had a bad year. He was fighting injury
Lol he wasn’t good before the injury either
Where us Andrew Luck now LOL
A lot of NYG players said Kurt Warner made Eli look awful at practice but the owner made the coach start him. Players said he was nice but Warner was elite. They thought Eli was a career backup in the league. And Daniel Jobes OMG!!!!! No other team pays him 15 million year as a backup. Why? He sucks. They gave him money bc his wife and the owners wife are friends
I know it’s a trend to hate on Caleb now for some reason (this happens to all of the best prospects before drafts.) but it’s Caleb and it’s not close no disrespect to Joe Burrow. Burrow was not projected 1 or the best QB in college until he beat Clemson and T Law in the championship game. In contrast to this Caleb has been consensus best QB and player in CFB since he took over as a freshman at OU.
& what has Mr. Williams won during his time at USC?
You're handicap we can see
@@brucetumblinjr7980You can’t even compare this USC team to that stacked LSU team.
well how do you explain last years record & the year before that lost to Tulane in a bowl game?
@@brucetumblinjr7980 when drafting a prospect you’re scouting the prospect not the team.
Burrow! Come on man stop!
CW has won absolutely nothing as a QB for any of the teams he has played for in all seasons he has played. I don't know how he is considered transcendent.
I agree.
There’s a bunch of quarterbacks who didn’t win a lot at the college level and still found success in the NFL. It’s mostly about where you go in the NFL and how stable that franchise is. The Bears have yet to generate a good QB in their 100 plus years of existence. Chances are Caleb is gonna be yet another victim, unless he truly is “generational.” We’ll see.
This is such an idiotic statement
USC had no defense, CW basically carried the team, he carried them to win that game against AZ in OT. AZ is a good team.
Who ever picks caleb williams is going to regret that choice. Hes a bust
Tank for tua happened long before burrow made his run. Caleb's a good qb, but his last season left a lot of question marks. Never seen a grown man cry on his mother's shoulder before💁🏾
It might be a while untill a better prospect than Burrow emerges.
Joe is generational.
Trevor Lawrence was but he hasn’t turned out as good as he was supposed to be.
@sly0422 he still got a chance. He looked good 2nd half of last yr n first half of this yr until he had ankle injury, concussion n other things. Plus kirk was hurt, ridley was inconsistent. Jags offensive players are not on bengals level
Ale. Is short and can only scramble and throw off script. On a really bad bad team he can win a team games. On a good teams he loses winnable games and they have a similar record. Burrow and Luck are the truth. Williams is a slightly taller spoiled Doug Flutie.
Dak is not better than Golf
Caleb not even better than Cam Newton coming out of college
Or deshaun watson way better QBS in college football history then him
@@RoseBall-cv1bsDeshaun Watson? Yeah you don’t know ball
Who is ?? Or Who "was" ??? Either way I think Burrow has already proven that on the field.
Caleb. He's on another level
go home ur drunk
Big ben over eli easy and goff and dak is close. But I give it to goff who actually did something in the playoffs while dak is joking year in year out on great teams
was andrew luck really better than Russ🤔🤔
When burrow don win a game he don go cry with his mom and dog he go to the locker room don’t ever compare burrow to him
I love how everyone was praising trevor lawrence was best prospect since andrew luck just 3 yrs ago n now nobody talking about trevor like he didnt even existed 😳
Because he hasn’t lived up to it.
@@eugenewood721 don't matter. It's a status as a prospect before the draft. Cant say best since luck when there were 2 qb who been on that level already
Joe had best season ever.Joe got bengals to super bowl. Andrew luck never came close
And everyone told burrow not to go to Cincinnati. Now that he’s balling there it’s because of the receivers lmfao
Joey B
Patrick goat nfl player mahomes!
Joe burrow is the best no 1 overall pick in 30 years
Peyton Manning was way better.
@@eugenewood721Burrow has had a better start when considering the postseason. But it would take a lot to hold on to that pace, considering Manning was a top 5 qb ever at worst
Coming out of college... yeah Burrow and Williams are very easily comparable. If you don't agree you're lying. In the draft process Burrow wasn't necessarily considered a slam dunk ppl did question the talent around him as having more to do with his success at LSU
Burrow no question asked
Lawrence was a better prospect then luck.How many game green beans ever played. I bet 0
Willam’s is the better prospect, but Burrow is the better player
Hembo such a nerd lol
No wonder I never watch this show
They were the worst team in the league which generally means they probably had the worst supporting staff to be good
Did that fanboy say Dak better than gulf😂
On good team. Jayden. M. Penix, Caleb. J.J., and May. On an awful team--Caleb, Jayden, J.J. Penix, and may
Joe Burrow easily
And Joe didn’t play til he got to lsu😂
HEY BEARS, DRAFT WILLIAMS KEEP FIELDS THEN TRADE BOTH OF THEM FOR A WHOLE NEW TEAM!
Dislike this entire premise
One won an natty the other lost to Tulane
I’m sorry but Daniel jones is no where close to Kyler Murray … WTH ? Like just watch both of the play , Kyler is miles better
Daniel Jones is not even close to Kyler lol
Look compare dude to Justin field or somebody
Greeny that why Mike kicked you off Mike and mike.
Greeny is a weirdo
Joe Burrow by a country mile. But who cares ?
Geoff is better the dak by far.2 super bowls
Cj stroud
Kyler and Daniel Jones close
Laughable
Russell Wilson over Andrew Luck
Goff is wayyyyyyyyy better than Dak. Dak sucks. Inaccurate. And Eli sucked too. He didn’t make the playoffs almost every year. He made 3 throws. The defend those chips. Trent Dilfee wins both chips. He sucked!! His completion % and INT’s. He lost 50 games bc of his play alone. Peyton lost 10 maybe. Bree’s lost 10 before he got old and lost 10 his last : years. Eli was slow. Andy arm. Ask everyone. He’s white and beat Brady twice but his numbers sucked.
Burrow > Cry baby
😅😅
I swear these people don't have nothing to talk about they just make up stuff now
This has to be a joke…
Wow😂😂
Caleb Williams will do nothing in the nfl. Burrow is better as a man and as a quarterback period
content drought?
This isnt a real question from experts is it?😂😂 Burrow and its not even close. Caleb will bust.
Joes a winner that’s what makes him different
What has he won in the NFL?😂😂😂😂😂😂
What has he won? 🤣 he’s missed the playoffs 2 seasons already. The same as Brady’s entire career
He has ended half of his NFL seasons on IR.
So your saying when health he wins and takes a team places it’s never been ya that’s a winner I didn’t call him the goat. I said he’s a winner that’s makes him different.
Burrow did something better . Made sb in yr 2 . An they on this hype that luck just made pkayoffs😂
Bears are a qb graveyard
Top 5 dumbest espn segments/debates of all time
Pointless convo
It’s Caleb and not close
Caleb Williams is gonna be trash. Couldn't even win in college. 5-4 this year in pac 12 and 8-5 overall. Get outta here.
@@dagger_rcn260you don't know that he's going to be trash.😊
@@Pro-Gamer330 guess we will see. If he goes to the bears 4 more years of dead last in the division
@@dagger_rcn260Bro, he had to score 45 atleast to have a chance at winning 😂 look at Burrows defense at LSU literally a roster full of NFL players if CW had that defense he would’ve threepeat in CFP.
USC’s defense was bad because Caleb jacked 5 games of with boneheaded plays. Turnover machine!!!!!Dumb plays, bad reads, and Cam only talks good about black players fact!.
Williams has never won anything that mattered
joe burrow won a college championship lol caleb won nothing
Some of these takes🔥💩
Caleb. Because he performed so well with a bunch of mid round talent at best.
Put Caleb at LSU and crazy to think what he would do.
Greeny I don’t know where you found your cross armed co host but his takes are TRASH
They both sucked coming out of college, super overrated but burrow was better.
Caleb is going to be a bust! #1 going to be drafted and going to be 1 and done. Trash 🗑️
IT'S EASILY CALEB WILLIAMS .. BURROW PLAYED WITH 2 TOP 5 NFL WRS IN COLLEGE .. AND HAS THE BEST WR CORPS IN THE NFL .. HE'S A LIL OVERRATED .. CALEB WILLIAMS = PATRICK MAHOMES 2.0 ..
😂😂 terrible take.
😂😂😂😂 nice joke
Yea that’s why Williams lost to Tulane in the bowl game lol 😂
Lol yeah.. this is not a good take dude.
@@brucetumblinjr7980says the Saints fan
Burrow ain’t even the best QB in his Division
your an IDIOT!!
@@rpevans64 Lamar is 8-2 against the Bengals. And Bengals fans love these QB head-to-head stats