The Ugly Truth of Nvidia Control Panel Optimization Guides
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- Does "optimizing" the Nvidia Control Panel settings actually do anything?
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Here are the settings I tested: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UdR8BbLaFhbVv8VNhMhK4o3fdyskaKRj2cMYJSj2Q7A/edit?usp=sharing
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hey dude im trying to show someone something but all my comments to guide them to the comparison are being filtered, i don't know what could be causing it?
@@CoCo.-_- Not sure why that is, not seeing anything held for review on my side!
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Say hello to apex, wz, Fortnite. Get more smooth and +fps with performance.
It makes me sick to think about how much money channels like Panjno have made over the last 10 years. The guy copy and pastes his vids for every game that comes out and his guides make little to no difference.
True. If you watch his videos he never show stats in the end. Just goes to show how useless his optimization guides are.
Fr, this is that one guy that ruined my new pc experience 1.5 years ago
He makes really good quality convincing video but all the stuff he says are useless. He copy pastes every other optimization guides and his own previous ones as well + has sponsors and multiple adds on each videos...
And somehow his comments are always positive which back then led be beleive that maybe these all actually do give me free performance but really no 😭
@@dr.bishop1126he shows stats in beginning but the gap there is 100. Where we living
Same here, really. Just imagine the amount of money they received and how dissapointed people were in those "tutorials" if we can call them like this.
There is a channel called shogoz, he’s a less know channel but he makes funny guides on optimising apps such as NVIDA control panel and always makes fun of morons who make guides but don’t know what they are talking about, for shogoz’s last Nvidia control panel video (it’s a little old now) he actually reached out to Nvidia to get to the truth of what each setting actually does.
This video is so nicely edited and helpful... but the best thing is that you resumed it in around 3 minutes instead of a 20 minutes long essai
true. i HATE long videos, especially the videos that are 10+ minutes for no reason. the only real reason for them being long is so that they can get money out of it, which is fine, people want money, its not charity work right? but please give us what we clicked for in 2 or 3 mintues and if you want to make a longer video then talk in further details and make it obvious that the rest of the video is for those who are curious about it or have other questions, you know?
I think everyone goes through the phase of messing with as many settings as possible to squeeze performance out of their machines just for them to perform similar while breaking several other things.
so painful but so true at the same time ;(
Yes, but I learned a lot and can now optimize much better. Well, just go to the panel to see if there are any unnecessary throttling, everything else is done in Windows or in the Game
I think it is great for everyone to start off with a bac pc so that they learn what each part does and what each game setting does & overall understand computers more
That was me the other night with ark. And it's crazy cause I'm not into fps. I just had to know, was I getting decent frames, and I was. Someone said I was getting 25fps, but I get between 30 and 40. With dips below 25. But not often. Now I just want to maximize what I have. Maybe I can play asa on epic settings one day.
My computer cant sleep and i cant use one drive anymore, but everything is a small sacrifice for -2 ping
The only useful options in control panel for me are V-Sync, G-Sync, Frame rate limiter, Low Latency Modes and a power plan. And only change those per game, not globally
For power mode, I set adaptive globally.
ylits also worth doing monitor oc. if you have a sub 120hz monitor
sometimes monitors support 75hz but dont expose it
also dsr and dldsr
This adds input latency. If there isn't a FPS limiter in game it's probably better to leave it alone. There's an excellent Monitor's Unboxed video that explains this.
I absolutely hate screen tearing so enabling V-Sync is a godsend
This is a great video, especially coming from a smaller creator. I would've liked to have seen a link in the description to a list of which settings you changed between the three banchmarks and what they were changed to.
It's not that I don't believe you, your argument makes perfect sense. However, when you use terms like "mythbusting misinformation", it's a good idea to include information like this so your viewers can verify it for themselves should they want to.
Once again, great job on the video!
Great suggestion, I've added it in the description. Thanks!
@@pc_blend Just wanted to say I subbed to you for this reason alone. You listened to the feedback and actually did something about it. Good job man.
All I've used the control panel for was when a game didn't have frame limiter so I put the maximum framrate to 200 instead of running it uncapped at 900+FPS and 99% utilisation constantly. It was also useful to turn on/off Vsync in some games where it caused problems with either jittering or heavy input delays.
yes same here, i use the amd radeon software (amd equivalent of nvidia control panel) to limit my fps to 60 on GTA vice city, because the in-game one limits it to 30 and when uncap it runs at 500 which has issues like cars are always braking themselves and you can push cars by running into them.
@@shivamverma7151In that case, I don't think they tested it without vsync
I do the same, I put NVC Global limit to 144 to match my refresh, then I use RTSS per-app limit of 60-144 (usually 90 FPS) to tweak individual games.
This keeps menu FPS below 2000 and makes sure my frametimes are very tight, usually around 12-17ms no matter what I'm playing. I stopped messing with NVC settings years ago but things like DLDSR, resolution and video color settings are all good to tweak and setup to your preference. And as you said it's useful to force stop Vsync or ensure 16x anisotropic gets applied if in-game doesn't include it, etc
In my experience Unity games are the easiest to "optimize" with ini edits, thread priority, etc But none of that is accomplished in control panel.
That is a nice trick. Some developers just make this basic mistake and max out gpu usage for no reason. I do not want 1000 fps for a 2d game on a 60 hz monitor. 😂
a good thing is also using custom reses for stretched res
good video, well edited and good mic. Looking forward to seeing you grow!
Same
Definitely
This video was so well done! Thank you for taking the time to benchmark this topic, I would love to see future videos on other popular tweaks. Great job!
The only good return I have had from Nvidia Control Panel was where I had severe screen tearing due to a mismatch between refresh ratio of my monitor (144hz) and the arbitrary FPS lock (60 FPS) I set for Forza Horizon 5 through Nvidia Control Panel (You cannot use 30/60/120 locks in the game with a 144hz monitor, it will be 48/72/144). Disabling the trilinear optimization from Nvidia Control Panel fixed the tearing issue for me in that game.
The real benefit of software guides is not raw FPS uplift, but in increasing consistency and timing. Which is arguably more valuable in today’s day and age.
What about some feature options like (low latency mode: ultra) those do affect fps in the negative but has a noticable impact on rendering latency
Awesome video man, I've personally spent a lot of time using and you're absolutely correct. Tweaking those settings and they made literally no improvements. The point also to be noted here is the titles for a lot of these videos are just pure clickbait suggesting performance boosts even upscaling technologies have failed to reach.
I subscribed! Im excited for that future testing!
my mind crossed the same idea, thx for tested it out
please make a video on hardware accelerated gpu and game mode settings.
love the vid, thanks for this information!
insane video, keep going man!
Hey, would you please make a video about performance impact of using NVCleanInstall?
NVclean does not increase performance at least it good to strip app like GFE.
@@xenogreen3816 atleast I get peace of mind that I have stripped GFE and the telemetry before the installation and other bunch of non required stuff that comes be default.
100% TRUE! (though the adjustments for G-Sync are kinda needed to make it work properly, sadly...)
Do a test for stripped Nvidia drivers in nvcleaninstall VS default install drivers?
I'll save you the trouble - it 100% works. Increases average FPS a bit but mainly it increases 1% lows in demanding games a LOT or at least it did for me. I'm talking 50% gains in one particular UE4 game with trash optimization. I have no idea why though. Some people report zero benefit on their systems too so who knows - just something to try out for yourself and see what happens.
It's not so much an increase in performance, but a noticable decrease in RAM and VRAM usage because of Nvidia bloat being removed
You got my subscribe man waiting for your myth buster videos
Good video
I really like the idea of extra fps, but now i know nothing is gonna do any good
Hats off to you !! Subbed 👍🏻
personally don’t daily an nvidia anymore but i love how straightforward it felt for me.
Before I get my very 1st NVIDIA card, I used APU chipset (Ryzen 5 3400G) to play and do various things (but mostly playing). I followed various video tutorials on how to optimized the Vega 11 in performance, but all failed until a one video tutorial that shown the modded version of the adrenaline, it run smoother than the official adrenaline software, but sometimes it worsen the issue. (It was called R.ID driver). The point was it's better to just use the driver itself and not use the additional program for the sake of optimization, because sometimes seeking for the best of best performance of your hardware will only lead to more issue and/or problem.
Anyway, great video it's informative and clear.
The content is clear unlike others who makes the video longer by adding unnecessary things.
Keep it up, I hope there will be more like this in the future, and your version of optimization guide too. 😁👌
Thank you! I always felt the same with my pc, just wanted to believe it is helpful. Also I noticed that I am ruining my graphics for nothing.
I now only use the nvidia panel for resolution change, Also Would Love to see the Nvida Profile Inspector (Because its more detailed version of the control panel, also as you said here 2:35 that the control panel has really basic stuff).
I was a PC techinician for over 7 years from now, and I have noticed that nothing actually helps than messing with the game settings itself. I fully agree with everything that was said in this video, and we really need an update for the NVIDIA control panel. Also, my favorite game is THE FINALS, and i'm happy to see that you play it. If you want a good teammate, hit me up, I will be happy to play with you!
Amazing video, without yapping and straight to the point. You're doin' good lad.
Good news! Nvidia just released the Nvidia app which is an updated version of the Nvidia control panel. Still on beta though
@@DuckButtGoesKwekKwek where can I find it?
@@ultrabugger4023on Nvidia official website
@@ultrabugger4023 google --> nvidia app (should be first link) --> download beta
the app name should just be Nvidia for now. I don't know if they will change it later
Hi i saw ur description pc builds and they all look good but I've already ordered a rtx 3070 for £250. Is it possible for you to recommend me a good budget pc build to use alongside my 3070? My budget is around £600 and since I've already bought the 3070 I have like 350 left
Thank you for bringing this out to light. Could you make a video on tweaks that actually improve your performance?
Have less programs run in the background. And reduce the number of apps that start with Windows
increasing your shader cache to 10GB and clamping negative LOD bias can improve stutter, especially in VR
1:23 Thx for the benchmarks result. I'm gonna restore my Nvidia settings to default now and only use it to cap my fps at 60.
on my gt730 i test it on heaven benchmark
the only setting efficting the score was Texture filtering
this is actually true. i only touch digital vibrance when i fresh install a driver.
Well said. Please test Hardware accelerated GPU scheduling and Game mode next please. Great video
That works for me. Try to benchmark it
The first one you listed is required for DLSSFG so that's an obvious advantage
Yeah but some people report micro stutters in some games with this toggled on@@M_CFV
I saw another video where they recommended turning game mode off. I did that and ran my Final Fantasy XV benchmark, I got the highest score ever! Haven't tried HAGS yet.
EDIT: I tried the Final Fantasy XV benchmark with HAGS on and off and got better results with it on.
Yeah ive been testing these two settings on my 5800x3d, 4070ti rig the past weeks and my results are the same as yours , HAGS feels good on and i have game mode off. I also use Ultra low latency mode. @@rogerbowen5753
what about the nvidia app do we leve it at default or do we change it
Thank you so much ! Indeed that makes a lot of sense especially why those videos all recommend different stuff. However, on a per game basis , a few settings have actually helped me increase performance. Looking forward for your myth busting video!!
can you test latency? it helps improve it on gpu heavy games for me
Haven't seen such a good video for a long time, thanks for the clarification
so does leaving minecraft on its defalut setting better or not
Since you mentioned that** Nvidia Control panel is an old software but it does have some newer features. May I ask if you should tamper with the Nvidia Low Latency Mode within Nvidia Control panel or just the in game settings?
I believe LLM in the control panel does something separate from Reflex
Reflex in games are better. If you have Low Latency mode enabled, Reflex in games will just override that. No big deal.
Are you able to do your own pc optimization guide? Would love to watch that.
Your pc is already "optimized" as long as it boots and works as intended.There are no hidden performance boosting features.
@@NotReallyLaraCroft not exactly Croft, some GPUs come with underclocked memory for no good reason, in that scenario, MSI afterburner can help to achieve optimal performance. Similarly, enabling XMP is a form of optimization. Using optimised settings in games, disabling Optimus etc. are also a part of " optimizing " the pc. Changing TDP, fan speed curve etc.
@@NotReallyLaraCroft oh and bonus, DLSS swapper. And those dlss to fsr mods and fs3 mods.
@@NotReallyLaraCroft Not really. Many newly manufactured computers have VBS with Bitlocker enabled by default, which can cause CPU performance to drop and disk read/write speeds to drop. There are also almost all CPUs that can achieve increased performance while lowering temperatures with undervolt.
@@NotReallyLaraCroft actually yes, but no. All tweaks should be made on per case basis. There is no universal solution for performance boost, but changing something individually for each piece of software/hardware may and usually will give you either better performance or improved stability
Hey bro I've found your channel, while searching for solution for my problems with my laptop!
I've a MSI Kataa 15 B12V with an RTX 4070 and I7-12650H WITH 16GB RAM, sometime ago I tried to play a few games like NBA2K and Fortnite and I play like 10/20 minutes than the game freeze, goes blacks screen and crashes.
I don't know what could it be, I have 2 monitors connected to the laptop, but I've played with no problems with both monitors connected.
Shader Cache ( I use unlimited since I have the space), Vertical Sync On (Gsync monitor dictates this be on for proper use, is that no longer the case?), and VR VRSS should be enabled. Beyond that, tweaking can be done in game.
Adding MSAA to an old game is the only time you should touch them. I also remember messing up with amount of frames rendered to make 15fps games somewhat playable. I finished Assassin's creed 3 and Splinter cell Conviction using Nvidia 8500gt.
Simple, thorough, direct. You just earned my follow sir
Then what are actually somethings that can help (even if its just minor)?
The only one I can think that may help is to use nvinspector to force Resizable BAR
I’m wondering whether Microsoft Flight Simulator would fall into this category. I sure have spent a lot of time watching videos about NVCP settings I don’t understand. A lot of them are also settings in game so I can’t work out whether to implement them at driver level or in game…..or both. It’s pretty confusing!
this was very insightful thanks
You should test those "VR Optimization" videos as well, if you can
i do it for the placebo bro
but how can u explain the option where it says "highest performance" and instead nvidia set it to balanced? isnt it like a easy boost?
The guide videos I "love" the most are those that would show you how to tweak general stuff but never would at least once show a clip of games being tested before and after they made the changes. I would sometimes point it out and the best thing is when the secondary/dummy accounts would try and pick a fight lol This happens mostly with micro small to relatively small/medium-sized PC-centric/gaming channels.
So should i reset my Nvidia Control Panel settings to default again or just let it be?
Can someone tell me the name of background music used in the beginning of the video.
How about the power options? Lot of these channels suggested high/ultra performance but I read somewhere that balanced is the right option?
Depends. If you use a laptop thats really the only case where it would matter, or if your pc was overheating you could use it to undervolt.
Few of of the basic settings like graphics fidelity, refresh rate and the only options one needs to look at the control panel to make sure modern hardware is not under utilized. Laptops also have to ensure the power options and profile which can flip when running on battery mode.
Noticeable performance dips comes with graphics drivers. I always keep a basic stable DCH driver and only update when some new game is displaying some issue.
PC gaming has become a bit of chore these days lol.
This why I stopped changing settings in the control panel 4 years ago cause I literally saw zero performance boast or worse performance in some cases
I liked commented and shared because everyone needs to see this. I just had a paradigm shift moment where I realized all of the perceived performance gains from when I have followed many of these videos must have been placebo
Pliz do the same but with the amd radeon settings
I've had more issues with frame pacing and stuttering on old games, in which case it can sometimes make a difference. But on a modern game, enable Vsync and look at other areas of your system that could be causing issues.
an important thing to mention here is that, some settings, actually do something like reflex for example, or shader cache (altough no performance be gained) it does help with latency. There's also system fallback memory which in case you run out of vram, switches to ram and help with memory issues
Could you please explain the reflex and shader cache settings im interested in them
@@saviourr3039 hey I'm not exactly an expert, but from what I know reflex should be set to "ultra" (if you have a good gpu like 20/30/40 series) or just "on" if you have a lower end GPU. Shadercache won't impact much but when set to low amounts can cause stutters, you can set it to 10gb, or if you have a hard drive with lower capacity (like 250 gb or 120gb) set the shadercache to a lower amount
@@natto6157You are confusing Reflex (in-game only settings) with the low latency mode setting found in Nvidia control panel. In every game that supports Reflex, you should 100% have it enabled as it is by far our best option and it overrides the NVCP setting. HOWEVER, what most of these idiots always seem to recommend is to set Low latency mode in NVCP to "ultra" which INCREASES latency instead of decreasing it in MOST games, because it is completely bugged, and simultaneously decreases your FPS by altering the render queue. Look up videos of actual latency testing with advanced hardware on YT - you will see. Sometimes it will literally 2x input latency. Instead, set low latency mode to "on", vertical sync to OFF (increases latency), G-sync enabled, and frame cap in-game (#1 choice) or per individual game in NVCP settings (#2 choice) to a comfortable FPS that your system can sustain without stuttering which will happen usually when it hits 100% GPU usage even at 100+ FPS. In single player games, just frame cap to where your GPU is below 100% usage like 90% of the time, and 100% of the time for competitive games. I autistically self-tested every setting mentioned here, it's definitely the best configuration 9/10 times.
@@saviourr3039 The shader cache is only used the first time a shader is built when running a game. The next time the game wants the same shader it will pull it from the cache rather than building it again. This can help reduce stutter on games where shader building happens a lot to prevent the stutter on shader generation. "Shader cache only works on OpenGL DX9 DX11" DX12 and Vulkan have there own shader cache.
@@saviourr3039Reflex ingame and low latency mode from NVCP they are the same tech afterall. the reason why Reflex is better is because Reflex doesn't need to travel to the game pipeline it's already in the game while Low latency mode needs to go the game pipeline in order to reduce latency which is slow.
What about Registry Editor tweaks?
Need more ppl posting like yourself for real. Being click baited on videos is just getting super old.
I spent literally 2 days straight testing out so many different things & and you're absolutely right.
Great video, Thank you for being an awesome creator👍
So, should I restore my settings back to default?
I've not benchmarked games, but there are a couple settings that improve timespy scores a tiny bit - but enough to break my own records. Does that translate into meaningful real world performance, probably not.
Thank doe the information man 🙏
This blew my mind as a retired advent watcher of those videos for my grandads crappy laptop
ive been waiting for someone to finally point out the little to no difference made in FPS. i do notice the visual appearance changes and ive grown to prefer the i guess "optimized" look.
Wow. Short, concise, no BS, *and* based on actual benchmarking? This video should set an example for others. Thanks for making this.
I only use it for the fps counter so it still bad?
Help my Nivida control panel don't Display settings
I got like 3fps more using the ultra performance setting in COD MW2.
It’s definitely for older cards and applications.
On the home screen you can actually choose to not use NCP settings. Theres like 3 choices. Use the games settings, Use nvidia 3D settings or choise a quality setting from a slider.
I think it only applies to the graphics settings as gsync was still enabled when I selected use game settings so it seemed.
thank you for informing people about this. all those "optimization" guides on youtube really do piss me off.
This video is crazy good. Nicely done
The really best and useful parameter in nvidia control panel is VSync. There is a multiple modes, and best one is fast mode. If you don't have display with dynamic Hz, it will remove desync without framerate drop! But be careful, it may broke some elements in game, for example, i got unworking screens (ingame world assets) in Atomic Heart. It was really hard to find out why it is not working
Also nvidia control panel may help on old laptops with GPU and integrated graphics. You should click RMB on game shortcut or launcher and select "run with high performance nvidia processor". Very helpful in minecraft for example.
I've tried various recommended settings after watching videos and have never noticed any difference which resulted in me going back to the default settings.
this was recommended to me while looking up one of these guides, guess the algorithm is working
i mean there may have been a difference if you tested it without underclocking your laptop
mostly with the "max performance" related stuff because i guess limiting your gpu and cpu to run at a lower freq and locking it wasnt the greatest choice
probably idk
there is a thing in the panel that increase performance but only in some games and if your cpu is way better then your gpu
One thing I have found to be useful is to gate maximum frame rate [Riva Tuner, but you can set it in nVidia control panel.] I have an old PC, so it helps keep ETS2 running at a smooth 60 FPS.
This advice was from one of the smaller, humble UK channels. [RandomGaminginHD]. Also, MSI do a good 20 minute guide on their own Afterburner which is worth seeing.
Thanks for this. I've recently fallen down a rabbit hole.
Same i just reset all mine to default after watching this and it runs alot better 😂
Thank you bro, I was going to change my setting for nvidia until I saw this video
the only thing i touch probably is the disable V sync, but even then, it is not that big of deal anymore, every time i try to "optimize" my pc, it always end up worse.......
The only setting i always change is the power thing where you set it as “prefer maximum performance”
That does nothing. Normal or Adaptive Power gives you the same thing as Maximum Performance.
Nvidia Control Panel color section is not visible
Awesome Video. Being short and investigating.
Subscribed.
Great informative video, thanks for sharing!….
i think the nvidia control panel only has an use while changing stuff like pre rendered frames and low latency mode. most of the game tweaks should come from profile inspector as that actually has a change on how the games look (for example fortnite is affected by profile inspector's lod settings and does increase framerate from my personal testing)
I liked your honest thoughts, keep it up
This helped me so much, just default and thats it, the only thing i changed is the maximum fps, that it stays in the range of g-snyc, even if thats really uncommon XD THX
I have always wondered if high quality does anything
I always thought it was fluff. Or at best would force things like filtering higher than the game could natively output for textures (never tested rigourously) but I never felt like it actually improved anything. Maybe in 3dsmax back in the day it helped viewport FPS a little
Jayztwocents did a video some time ago on this exact topic and made a lot of changes to an RTX 2060 to improve performance. It wasn't all in vain, as he mainly tweaked a few settings in the Nvidia Control Panel and MSI Afterburner, and it actually worked.
What about input latency? visibility inside the game? loading times? You didnt include those
most games where latency matters already override the nvcp settings (reflex, etc.)
LOD and arthroscopic filtering do work (at least through NV profile inspector)
loading times are more CPU/storage dependant, though maybe resizable bar will help.
@@jujuu1339 This is true. Also generally speaking having a higher framerate has the biggest positive impact on latency in game.
People say that, but I don't see how the input lag would have any correlation to these settings. If the fps isnt any better, why would the input lag be? High graphics don't cause extra delay, higher frametimes do.
Changing graphics won't affect load times
Works for me in fighting games and games I lock at 30 fps
There is to note that there ARE settings that can have an impact. Especially the "Max Prerendered Frames" (now called Low Latency Mode) which, as far as I understand it, would decrease input lag at the cost of hitting the CPU harder since the frame buffer is lower. So when the CPU can't deliver fast enough Low Latency Mode might result in stutters (I have that in Elden Ring where the CPU is already under pressure, so turning of LLM helps with stutters on my R5 3600)
All that said: great video and please keep on Myth-Busting!
It just lowers the number of frames stored in the frame buffer so that they don't stack up, it doesn't make CPU work harder
@@kennybust Well that might be true, but it makes a slow CPU more obvious since the buffer is gone. So the CPU might not work harder, but it still leads to stuttering that can be avoided with more pre-rendered frames/low latency mode OFF.
@@benfrese3573 I'm not denying that, just saying it doesn't work harder (uses more power, utilization % or whatever)
@@kennybust Yeah, that's true. But it's generally a good idea to turn it off (the low latency mode) especially when aiming for 60fps in demanding AAA games. Elden Ring for example hates the LLM.
@@benfrese3573 it's good for GPU bottleneck scenarios but not nearly as good as locking FPS to lower frame rate (for better latency). I prefer using LLM Ultra so that my GPU can make the most FPS it can and have a decent chunk of input lag removed.
Most of the time I only need nvidia control panel for : gsync, vsync, max frame, and resolution / hz settings. Maybe performance mode and now RTX HDR and things will be useful in the new beta app. But yea it’s not really about increasing performance (as much as getting most out of your display). It’s about doing settings to match up well with your monitor or how you’re playing a game. We probably only need 5 settings most of the time.
I feel like vsync just kills some FPS (like 10-20%) for no real gain, especially because the difference between the fully loaded frame and the succeeding partial frame gets lower the more FPS there are
@@gonozal8_962 yes I am not using vsync currently and definitely loving it. Yes the input lag reduction and having a high refresh rate monitor seems to make vsync not necessarily and just a net positive to not use it. Unless tearing really bugs someone but again I don’t notice it much on a high refresh rate monitor I’m using.
What about latency
I just put the textures on high performance and power on prefer maximum performance thats it everything else on default thats all I change and its makes a difference on mine