I Tried Nvidia's best "Budget" GPU to see if we're Doomed
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I bought an RTX 4060 to see if it's any good. This is Nvidia's new entry-level graphics card for RTX 40-series, though they do seem to still be offering other, they don't advertise them. I even was able to borrow an RTX 3060 to put it up against... is $300 too much for this GPU? Are entry-level GPUs doomed? Should you even bother?
The RTX 4060 I bought (affiliate link): amzn.to/49oAivV
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0:00- Nvidia Made me buy the RTX 4060 :)
1:25- So I tried the RTX 4060 in the latest games
3:55- "Essential"
4:35- RTX 4060 vs RTX 3060!
5:45- A generational downgrade?
7:18- Ray Tracing for Everyone?
8:48- DLSS Frame Generation.
10:26- 4050 in disguise
14:01- THE REAL EXPERIENCE
17:50- New "Entry-level"
19:35- Is it bad tho? - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
The fact that Amazon deliver the graphics card without additional packaging and placed it at the door make this even better. It's bring "Who would steal this sh**" vibe.
The RTX 4060 is so bad, not even porch pirates want to steal it.
amazon now has a little box that say "save packaging by using original shippers boxing" or some shyt like that, and its automatically set to that. So unless you scroll down and look for that box and switch it to "amazon packaging" it wont come with amazons extra packaging. I just went through this last night and was like wtf. Fucking scammers at amazon trying to save a buck , meanwhile CEO is a fucking billionair.
Na nowadays they don't put additional package and say the original box is gonna be revealed
My extension cables and psu came without the amazon packaging
But my AIO came with the amazon packaging 😅
It's still weird to me that refusing to even attempt making contact with the customer is the established norm in the US.
"Porch piracy" would be SO EASY to prevent. I'd much rather pay a tip, than deal with that crap.
Its kinda weird to me that post offices just leave stuff out in your door like that, here they call you to see if you're home, and if you're not they leave it at their offices.
Seems like doing it like this just leads to inevitable safety concerns.
don't worry guys, next gen the 5060 will be marketed at 720p instead
With DLSS you'll enjoy lovely 240p 1000 fps though!
and it will still only have 8gb of vram
@@Plague_Doc22 *upscaled from 144p
nah it'll be called 5050
"720p is the most popular resolution"
Nvidia wrong named it... it's a RTX 4050.
I wanted to point this out. It is that on 60 series cards, you typical get the higher end of a budget gaming card. The 1060 6GB is a really good example. Awesome card $200. But they wanted to charge $300 for the card and they cant do that calling it a 4050 or 4050ti as those cards generally run from $100-$160. Who is going to buy a card with a perceived value of $150 for $300? So, it essence, it is a scam. Nvidia used their naming conventions to fool you.
Rtx 4050 $199
It woudlve been a best seller for most budget builds. But Nvidia can't do anything right.
Which makes a 4050 a 4040.
@@teilanittv Oh, bro., totally scamming off the 60 series name.
Exactly
The delivery driver knew what he was doing, you can leave that at the door for a month and no one will steal it
Its actually a good card just awful price
Crypto miners will. Just saying.
@@merchantmocha4665 well with that argument, everything is good but has bad pricing. It is a bad card, it brings nothing new. Any video card used for gaming in 2024 without atleast 12GB of VRAM is simply bad, whatever the price.
@@eptic-c and here I am playing whatever I want with a gtx 1660 super with 6 gigs.
@@eptic-c most modern games require more than 12gb Vram.
This has been proven by tests from many TH-camrs using RX7600xt 16GB.
in other words the 8gb era will soon be extinct for the latest GPUs.
It's not the card issue, its price issue.
Always
Card itself is a trash
A **60 class card with **50 class chip with a price tag of 60 class card and outperformed by its predecessor 3060 . looks very impressive
@@I_hate_you_forza No it's the price issue. if anyone can buy it with a 100 $ it will be the best card
@@I_hate_you_forza You know the 4050 already exists, right?
@@gamerz64xdThats a laptop chip.
0:57 In regards to the Amazon packaging issue, Amazon has actually made it so that some items are shipped in their bare boxes by default to reduce packaging waste. At the check out, there should be an option ro ship with or without Amazon packaging, and the with packaging option even has in parentheses "hide what's inside". As far as I know this should be free, but results may vary?
Make sure you toggle this option when buying valuable/expensive stuff.
Man I gotta say, I love your approach to testing things here. We need more 'average' type people making content about tech and PC gaming
For perspective, to those that may be too young to remember.
In 2016, AMD Launched the RX 480 and RX 470. It launched along side Battlefield 1, which to this day, looks better, than some AAA games (cough, starfield) and still looks absolutely insane.
The RX 470 was MARKETED as a 1080p, 60fps, MAX SETTINGS card in a game that didn't even launch yet, and set the standard for graphics fidelity in first person shooters.
The 470 was also capable of getting 60 FPS at 1080p, max settings, in the witcher 3, probably the most demanding title at the time and was barely a year old.
The RX 470 cost 179, and the RX 480 cost 199. Accounting for inflation, that would make them 230$ and 260$ respectively.
The fact that a card for 299$ can't play a game like atmoic heart or the last of us at 1080p at 60 fps...even with NVIDIAS SUPPORT IN THOSE GAMES. Is sad.
Its also sad that the card from the previous generation runs better most of the time...
I won't even mention how in 2016 the RX 480 8GB at 230$ was marketed as a 1440p card...before 1440p even went mainstream.......
And another problem...is the 3060ti costs around 250$ used....
oh my god I knew AMD released some absolute bangers but I didn't know they released bangers THAT GOOD??
Amd got overshadowed hard in that time period by the 10 series of nvidia. It wasn’t until the 20 series that they started to fall off again. Even the 1650 super and the 1660 super are still arguably great cards for the price. Right now you could get either for less than a hundred dollars used. It is insane that the 1080 ti is comparable to the 30 series cards.
@@delayedplayerI gave my 480 to my friend so we can play helldivers 2. It runs at like 40 fps native res, on an 8 year old midrange card.
Bro! I had the RX 480 and it was a fricking beast. I got a 3090 3 years ago and I gave my RX 480 to a friend and is still playing games on that card to this day. I was playing Resident Evil 2 Remake on High at 1440p 60fps. It could even run it at 4k 30 fps, that thing was insane, and it cost me 300 Canadian dollaroos. What a steal.
Meanwhile I don't want to say how much my 3090 cost 😢
The RTX card cost a bit more because of the RTX features and power efficiency, which is why it's getting more popular than the AMD and possibly Intel Graphics card that are cheaper and offer same or more performance.
now introducing the RTX 5060 with 4GB of VRAM and is recommended for 480p to get 60fps
You lie it's 360p
1440p gaming but you forgot the zero
and with dlss 4.69 you can enjoy incredable 15 fps ray tracing experience on it and ofc with massive lovely Stutters
now introducing 10060 with 1 gb of sdram, msrp 100000 eur, with dlss 10.0 frame generation 13/10 56p compatible, no pcie express included, only sata gen 100.0001. runs on single hamster. Hamster not included. If you need to unlock more hamsters, preorder hamster performance dlc.
@@scarfaceReaper but it upscales to 480p and generates 3 fake frames in between the real frames.
This was honestly a more understandable and commentary review over this card than tech Jesus and some other TH-camrs. Keep up the good work!
thats the problem . you compare 3050 to 1650 you see the jump :D, but when you go to 3060 to 4060 you see the scam
Even going from 2060 Super feels like a scam
The 3060 and the 4060
are both the same price right now tho
RTX 4060 is not bad itself, just don't consider it as an upgrade if you already have anything better than a GTX 1070.
I upgrade from a 1050 to a 4060.
But for me, the only options were that or an rx 7600 for a similar price.
6700xt out of stock here and 3060 is $50 more and slower so the buffer between the 4060 and 4070 doesn't exist where I am, it's either get a 4060 or nothing at all because the cost of everything else is just far too much here.
@@gamerz64xdthere are no bad graphics card just bad priced ones the card is fine teas a big upgrade for you. It’s only bad if your upgrading from a 3060 ti. Since I believe how it was before was that the next gen 60 series would be faster than last gen ti in the same series.
My 7 year old GTX 1080ti is better than this. It's trash slip Nvidia 4000 series and probably moving forward as well. I jumped to an xfx 7900xt for 699.99 plus 80 off in Amazon rewards and I have loved it 1440 killer and a hard 4k card.
@@DJ-fw7mi 4060 is faster than 1080Ti. 1080Ti is at the same level as 3060 12GB. the only thing 1080Ti have over 4060 is VRAM. and when running newer games that takes advantages of things like async compute heavily the 4060 will pull even ahead.
@@arenzricodexd4409 doesn't make it worth the price of 300$ on the low at all. Card won't even last a generation, needs features to produce frames at 1080p when the 1060 was aiming for 1440p in 2016. It is a terrible do not buy and forget about Nvidia since they forgot about gamers who helped build up that company.
the best part of the 4060 is that it came in a low profile version for itx builds.
i bought that and its perfect for me and in my country its very cheap too
AD107 is a 50-class chip.
In fact, all of the 4000 cards (except maybe the "4090") are shifted by 1-2 tiers than they SHOULD be. This entire generation is a major skip.
True, this is just so evident with 4060 and 4060 Ti
Nvidia jacked up the price on top of calling their lower binned chip as midrange. Double kill for consumers.
i tink even the 4090 isn´t the full unlocked chip
@@i3l4ckskillzz79nah 4090 is the only real deal
It's goes like this what the cards actually are
Rtx 4060 = Rtx 4050
Rtx 4060 ti 8gb/16gb = Rtx 4050 ti
Rtx 4070 = Rtx 4060
Rtx 4070 super = Rtx 4060 super
Rtx 4070 ti = Rtx 4060 ti
Rtx 4070 ti super = Rtx 4070
Rtx 4080 = Rtx 4070 Super
Rtx 4080 super = Rtx 4070 ti(barely)
I WAS IN THAT THREAD! i was assuring to the guy though. told him not to let people get him down cause a new gpu is a new gpu. he was upgrading from something realllllly old anyways, so it was an actual upgrade for him.
Plus it was the best he could afford so i just told him to go play and enjoy some games. 45-50 fps isnt optimal, but it is playable for single player. I remember being extremely poor and having to game on systems not meant for it. deleting textures out of game files and still only getting 26 fps... first gaming pc played skyrim at 48 fps and i loved skyrim. played it on that system for years before my first prebuilt.
Budget gaming... its allot of compromises. if you dont have the money, sometimes you have to take what you can get. thankfully theres allot of optimizations in the Modder scene.
Remember to always dl afterburner and look up oc guides on YT! keep your hardware longer regaurdless of how good/bad it is!
If you were actually there, that thread was months old. The problem and still the issue is he could've spent 49$ dollars more for 30% to 50% improvement.
Now cards are even cheaper and The 4060 is just priced even more wrong aginst other cards... very wrong... get a 4060 super or 4070 ti for the same price or slighter higher (all depends on brand and If it's used)
@@monkeebunz8580 why you would you buy a used gpu? why would you buy any used electronic? It better be extremely cheap if it is a used electronic otherwise it doesn't make sense.
Super happy you talked about Blender towards the end. I'm curious how the smaller memory bus effects video rendering tho.
rtx 4060 is getting old so fast man... i'm happy with my rx 6800 with 16gb vram
Best purchase ever.. used at 330 $, a mind blowing 40% lead over a regular 4060, plus 16 GB VRAM 256 bits
@@silvio351 I hope that this card will hold up well for a few years, not like 4060 that is already about 1 year old and is obsolete in some cases
Yeah. I got a 6750xt and compared to a 4060, you’ll think the 6750xt was a high end card
@@Blaczek297
😂 Lol.
You wouldn't play any game with 60 series of AMD, cause every game will mandatory DLSS and frame generation.
@@789uio6yThe graphics card he bought has enough Vram to play at 1440p for now, so it won't be a problem unless you want to play at 4k ultra.
RTX 4060 microstuddering is real and made me hate it instantly. Do not buy it!
There's microstuttering in *every* Unreal Engine X game, it's an engine issue with loading stuff. It's not the card. Doesn't matter if 4060 or 4090.
@@GERRaze Yeah but still 4060 is definitely not worth it at all.
@@GERRaze My faster RTX cards do not have stuttering
no it's not bro it'sfucking smooth
@@MicahDaRhuler 4070 Super or the new Ti Super would be a better choice tbh. Nvidia for some reason just cuts out half of VRAM in their GPUs. AMD on the other hand does not. And this isn’t fanboy related, or even that I’m a fan of AMD.
Basically the improvement from samsung 8nm to tsmc 4nm was huge, but rather than distribute that benefit throughout the lineup they gave the most of it to the high end cards, and used as small of a die size as they could get away with for the lower end cards, to my understanding. The 4060's die size is so small, it wouldn't surprise me if it was actually cheaper to make than the 3060, even being a newer node and all. So the 4060 in the end is like a 60% increase in performance per watt, but not in raw performance. Great video Vex! I enjoy your "conversational" style of videos..
“60% increase in performance per watt, but not in raw performance”
It does make me wonder if anyone tried overclocking this card. What if we could give it the same wattage as a 3060?
@@TheMamaluigi300 Every architecture has an ideal voltage curve, and it's usually a diminishing gain the higher you go. If it would even allow you to pump the wattage up that much, you wouldn't get a huge gain. Think of it like how the intel 14900ks uses like 400w but it's 5% faster than a 12900 at 200w
The problem is the price. This should have been a 4050 and priced acordingly. But 3060 level performance for 50% less energy use is kinda crazy!
exactly not many talking about the low power for same level performance.
like you said, the price is the biggest issue. if they would have released this at a fair price, it would be in every budget pc
How the fuck it 3060 level of performance???
Even on techpowerup it 18% faster than 3060, the 3060 is only 16% than 2060! Lol! It even when you doesn't consider frame generation! So 3060 is on the performance of 2060?
Also 3060 got hyped to much just because of vram that it can't utilize, every sencerio where 3060 exceeds 12gb of vram it get unplayable fps any way.
@@789uio6yFair, but the RTX 3060 should be great if you do both gaming and demanding work tasks that need lots of VRAM like Rendering and Machine Learning.
3060 is on average a bit slower, yes but most of the time its only 5-10% slower which ends up making no difference in your enjoyment in games. Also the 3060 has a much wider 192-bit bus meaning it will perform much better in memory intensive games or at high resolutions than the 4060 (128-bit). Frame generation can only be confortably used at 50-60+fps so its not really a feature you are going to use much on the 4060. Also Frame Generation adds an average of 200-400 mb of vram usage when you anable it, so memory limited cards like the 4060 might not even be able to use it if the game requires high ammounts of memory. Any card that exceeds its vram gets unplayable, doesnt matter if its a gtx 1050 or and rtx 4090. The 3060 can have 50% more things loaded onto memory before swapping to ram than the 4060, which in games means you will be able to have much better texture quality and effects than on the 4060.@@789uio6y
they can call it 4050 the price will still be $300. consumer need to accept the reality that cost are going up.
5:00 power efficiency man
Oh this is actually quite a big leap
@@Ishi112 big chunk of tdp went down, overall like vex said 200 to 250 bucks is more reasonable 😆
Shhhh ni siquiera saben que significa
Yeah the engineers cooked with the efficiency, hats off - but then came the marketing team
@@itsTyrionlol no, then came the finance team
coming from a 750ti the 4060 was a great upgrade literally can play anything.
I'm sorry to say that coming from a 750ti means you'd feel the same way about pretty much any card you upgrade to..
Still that's a nice upgrade, enjoy it :)
A 2060 would of been a major upgrade
@@gradystephenson3346 Even a 1060 would feel like huge upgrade from a 750ti.
Duh, even the unsupported 9xx series would've been ecstatic.
the 4060 is great
Intel ARC A770 16gb is a far better value in my opinion. Bought one in December, and it's been fantastic. No problem running games at ultra settings in 1440p and even full 4k on low to medium settings depending on the game. But I would highly suggest it if you only have $300 for a GPU as it comes in at $299. I get 130+fps a 160hz at 1440p on my Ultrawide LG monitor and 60-80 at 4k 60hz on my TV playing on dayz... will only get better with a higher refresh rate. Don't listen to the nay sayers, these Intel Cards are not bad.
i play too much old stuff that it won't have drivers for, but in principle i believe you and wish they got more credit.
@@Eunostos I play a lot of older games too, no problem. I'm currently replaying the first Max Payne, smooth as butter.
Finally, someone who, instead of insulting and snubbing a product, provides clear and contextualized reasoning.
The one and only thing that I'll give the 40 series lineup kudos for is their power efficiency. Goddamn is it fucking impressive, but I wouldn't doubt it having to do with how small the memory buses are
I'm glad you showed the guy on reddit actually didn't get dunked on by everyone.
I've unfortunately seen a number of instances where people have been SUPER excited about a purchase they made or how they just put together their first rig, and absolute sad, unloved trogs just come outta the woodwork with the sole intention of making them feel like absolute garbage for sharing something that they were so genuinely happy about, proud of, and excited for. My night is now saved because of that😌
128 bit memory bus says everything
yea and 8gb memeory too
Plus 8x pcie 4.0 lanes (down from 16x from 3060)
Dont worry you should believe Nvidia and DLSS hype. Can get 80 fps with DLSS at 1080p (just dont try with DLSS off)
Nothing wrong with 128 bit buses, the problem is when the VRAM capacity per chip is low. If GDDR6 had mass produced 4GB chips, then 128 bit bus cards would have 16GB of VRAM it would be great, instead the volume of 4GB GDDR6 chips is very low and we get 8GB cards.
Bandwidth-wise again we just need faster memory.
@@prosecanlik4296You forget that the 4060 is a 30/40 class GPU, named as a 60 class GPU sold at almost 70 class prices(at launch).
I just hope the RTX 5060 is gonna be better... and also having 12GB VRAM at the very least, or my depression are gonna increase
For only $499 😃
Rhymes like dimes
saddly it's looking like nvida may repeat the 4000 series with the 5000 series . the 5080 and 5090 will be damn nice and expensive .. while the 5070 will again be gimped with just 12gb vram , and the 5060 will be gimped with just 8 gb vram.
Or it repeats the same 8GB 128 bit-bus or it will increase the price to 349$ or 399$ knowing Nvidia.
You can have that performance (even a bit better) since like 2 years with 12 gb vram. its the 6700 xt GPU that goes for 300¨$. there was no reason to buy a 4060 for 400$ at any point lol. i think they dont change the way they move.
For future Amazon orders, there should be an option to have the product ship in Amazon packaging (they put the box in a box)
You know what will fix this? Continuing to exclusively buy nvidia products. We deserve this. This is our doing, this is our bed, now we will sleep in it.
Just compare the die size of the 2060 (445mm) to the 4060 (159mm) and that will tell you what you need to know. That doesn’t even include the bus width shrinking as well from 192 to 128 bit.
Nvidia took a 4050 and renamed it to a 4060 and jacked up the price. If you bought a 4060 you were tricked and I feel for you.
2060 was made on an old processs node wasn't very well received, it actually had a nice performance bump but also +100$ MSRP. 3060 was also built on cheap but bad Samsung node. Why don't you compare it to 1060's 200mm die?
@@0M0rty Because 1060 was built before ray tracing and tensor cores was a thing, if you add extra ray tracing cores and tensor core to 1060 die it would be over 400mm in size
@@nonameyet2205Complete nonsense, tensor and RT cores take up around 10-15% of the die
A 4050 literally exists already, it's reserved for laptops for now, they'll probably make a desktop version eventually like they did the 3050.
@@0M0rty Okay maybe im over exaggerating too much but you do get the point right? Lets add 15% that would be 230mm and that is still much bigger than 159mm
your sarcasm is giving me so much life! 🥰🥰
I picked up the RTX 4060 for my dedicated stream pc, strictly for the NVENC encoder and its ability to encode in AV1. Works great for that particular use case.
Nice video dude thanks for sharing the info. I was actually planning on getting a new gaming PC with the RTX 4060 GPU but changed my mind lol. Think I'll go with the RX 6750XT instead or wait for the RX 6800 come down a little bit in price.
Upgraded from 1660ti to rtx4060. Rtx3060 was like $310, and rtx4060 at $330 that was within my budget. Rx7600 was priced near $320 lowest but i skipped it because my psu is only 450w. So its not an issue with rtx4060. And rx6700xt was $400 in my country which was significantly over my budget and i would have also needed to upgrade psu for that. So i guess it was a fair choice to go with the rtx4060. I play on 1080p monitor so its not an issue and also run dlss quality mode if the game has good implementation. Can't tell much of a difference unless i really look for it. Sometimes its even better. I played horizon zero dawn and dlss fixed the foliage shimmering that it had with taa.
Exactly same situation updated from 1660 super 4060 was the best choice for me price in my country power consumption new gen ... why would i want higher vram 3060 or 3060 ti when i only play 1080 at high with dlss 3 support i can run 99%
@@any_one_else The people trashing this card are not paying the electric bills. Extra vram would have been good.
You could leave this card outside your front door for a week and it'd still be there it sucks that bad
upgraded from gtx1060 6Gb to RTX 4060... the difference is huge! 70-80 fps in rdr2 1440p 😋
Thanks for this comment. I was planning to upgrade my GTX 1060 6GB to the 4060, and I'm staying at 1080p, so looks like it'll be a cost effective upgrade.
“It’s a canon event, there is nothing we can do” got me laughing
When I saw laptop with 4050 on my local market and also tiny low profile 4060, it instantly flash my mind that Nvidia relegate 50 series to laptop and mobile stuff and 60 series become the new entry level on desktop.
And the chip of the rtx 4060 is of the xx50 series
just got a 1440p external monitor and 4060 laptop recently, loving it so far. I know 8gb vram in modern games might not be enough but just dropping the texture quality fixes vram usage in most cases and lets be honest even if it had higher vram RT would be smoother but still not 60+ fps so realistically no one is going to sacrifice fps for RT that sometimes isn't even that noticeable. I got a great deal on the 4060 and I'm happy.
I bought a prebuilt cyberpower from costco with a 4060 right after they come out and was literally having buyers remorse while enjoying it lol ( how dumb is that?). When the 8gb vram becomes an issue I will throw the 4070 super in it and be good till 12 ain't enough lol. Enjoy that laptop my friend.
Cope.
@@AngelicRequiemX God forbid someone be happy. Get a life.
@@bradleylauterbach7920 Sure thing, snowflake.
@@AngelicRequiemX log off r3t@rd
Great video as always Vex, keep it up.
My RTX 4060 ran Diablo IV with rt on and maxed settings with frame generation pretty smoothly with some tiny lag but for the combat it didn't really lag at all. and it ran the same as a rtx 4080 in 4k.
I got a 4060 for my Plex server. Its been great! Coming from a 1060 6gb using hand break, it was a welcome upgrade.
Havnt had problems with mine either,, grant it , it doesn't heat my room up like my sons 30 series so in cold months I still use a space heater
as always the problem is the price. the card itself is not bad and if it was 200$ everyone will call it good
Your system specs in the description would be nice. Nice vid though!
I have a Gainward RTX 4060 and i'm getting a constant 60fps with everything maxed out including path tracing with DLSS quality at 1080p. So I don't know why people are mad about it, it's a pretty good graphics card, I'm only getting 40fps in Dogtown because i'm CPU bottlenecked but everywhere else I can get really good performance, even going to 90fps in the badlands
Get a 2080Ti for $220.
Got 11GB Vram and everything.
still 1080 Ti is bettter value, but 2080Ti seems a better deal than 4060 Ti overall
@@Blaczek297sadly in my place (euw) 1080ti's costs the same if not more than 2080ti's lol
@@maho8204Makes no sense lmao
20 series cards are at risk because the memory chips are failing. If you're going 2nd hand you don't know what you're buying. You have to disassemble the card to check. Theres a video on youtube about it, look it up. Its called "2000 series graphics cards memory problem warning (early micron)" by Northwestrepair.
good luck finding one and i dont mean in america or amazon but at a local shop outside a first world country.
Vex is now officially in my top 10 fav tech youtubers now
Frame generation mod with 3060 is the final nail in the coffin for the 4060
NVIDIA hasn't been making cards designed for gamers but instead designing card designed for share holders. I agree with your end of video review about the card. Though the video my brain was screaming that it should have been called the 4050. It was nice to see an honest review that talked about the cards strong point and then come to the exactly the same conclusion about it's identity in the 40 series I did while watching the video. I bet they would sell infinitely more of them if they did called it the 4050 or even 4050ti.
It's really weird that no one around here seems to mention the Intel Arc A770 which is about the same price now and thanks to matured drivers runs laps around the 4060 in performance and ray tracing and with it's 16GB VRAM scales excellently to any resolution. The only thing that NVIDIA has going for them at that price point is power efficiency, which is not a big concern for gamers.
intel drivers said hello....
Arc drivers improved a lot but I wouldn't call them matured. There are issues in some games. You can't speedrun development in the graphics industry when your competition has been on it for decades. But in that short time they did a really good job.
@@v5k456jh3 yeah and I ain't got cash to throw away to help a multi billion dollar company to develop there product so currently i will stick with Nvidea for lower tier and AMD for middle and Nvidea for higher tier....
@@ravijotsingh7831says who never owned an Intel GPU. They're fine right now, but there's always room for improvement.
Exactly. Because these brainwashed and gullible customers are still stuck in 2022, back when the drivers were messed up. Also, the first generation of a product line is always going to have some issues, it's only natural. If the Battlemage series goes well, it's very likely that Intel will take a huge chunk of the market share in the next 2 years.
Lack of competition is major problem.
AMD exists
@@TheMaztercom They are more than happy to play second fiddle to Nvidia, they might have to step to combat intel but that's it
Intel and AMD exists. I just built a new rig with an intel Arc A770 16gb and with the latest drivers I'm able to play every game I own in ultra 1440p with atleast 60 fps.
The card only cost me $289 to boot!
@@TheMaztercom lol 7600 should be below $240
bro has brass balls positing this here
We can’t do anything it’s a canon event
Bought one for a family members build of old parts I had laying around. Threw it in my system and was pleasantly surprised. I have a 3090 and for most of the games I play, I couldn't tell a difference if I turned off the fps counter. Wish it was cheaper but...
17:10 that is fricking amazing
It wouldn't be, if competition was a thing in the productivity space -- or just the GPU space in general.
Even the 7800xt vs 4070(S) "battle" was more like a pillow fight, than anything with actual stakes.
@@danieltoth9742 W for the lower end regardless
its interesting how people just assume 4060 is a bad gpu cuz its the lowest tier, ive got a 3060 which is a little worse and i play anything i want on it , i used it for 4k 60fps, and now im using it for 1440p 170hz, and if u just lower ur standards and use enough DLSS and play on medium settings, you can play anything even on 4k
I totally get if somebody was to buy a 4060 and had a 3060 already I wouldn't personally think that is money well spent, but there has been some pretty good deals on the all hated prebuilts with a 4060 in them and being as I play on a 60 hz 4k tv it works out pretty good 4 me,, when the 8gb vram won't cut it im putting a 4070s in it till the 12 won't lol
@@nimrodpaul6875 yeah pre built especially good deal. Also, 3060 upgrade to 4060 is really stupid, Nvidia says you save on power but you can literally undervolt the 3060 to 115w with the same fps and get fsr3 mod and it's basically the same GPU as 4060
it’s kinda sad it’s only the price and vram tho i got a 4060ti for dirt cheap basically new and it was the best deal i could’ve gotten even going team red would’ve left me with less
@@Shrewbloom how much did you pay ?
@@snowball1792 11 days and yt notifies me I have a reply,,, lol, 👍
I kinda feel the comment "this is $300??" as I recently bought the 4070 Super at a hefty $726 (converted from Norwegian kroner) , and I got the tiny ASUS at 227mm length because I needed it to fit my tiny case. Turned out that while it fits, it really does not and I the dumb power connector stops me from closing the case. I ordered a trick 180 degree adapter and that would make it close, but immediately after I ordered that I decided to upgrade to a big-boy-pants-case to futureproof my upgrade path.
But my point here is, that size is not everything, as my 4070 Super is more or less exactly the same size as the 4060 show here, but it is a completely different animal.
Would love to see more low profile cards in the 4070 Super type segment as by finagling the PCB layout there is really no reason NOT to have a LP 4070S.
my rog strix 4060ti 16gb is honestly amazing avg fps is 240 on max settings DX 11 on fortnite and overwatch comp settings lows are 370 fps but avg is more than 400 which i consider very good all on 1080p though but 1440P i would assume is still very capable i paired the 4060ti with a 5800x3d and 32gb ddr4 3000mhz ram dual channel with an ak620 btw
The 4060 gets allot of hate because it's barely a generational upgrade and is often beat by its last gen model. This card should have been at least 20% to 30% faster in most games.
The only positive thing I will say about it, is the power draw per frame is pretty good.
But an energy efficient waste of sand is still a waste of sand.
I'm amazed that you can't see the merits of the 4060. Yet nearly everyone falls into this same trap. It's a budget card that can do a little more than its predecessor the 3060 like-for-like, and also has the AI frame generation for smoother FPS, yet it is around the same price and runs significantly cheaper and cooler.
It fits perfectly into the budget price of someone who wants a basic card that can run 1080p easily and 1440p reasonably.
The 128 bits is perfectly adequate for this level of card.
You can run any game available today, the most GPU pressing ones might need a few quality settings lowered but that's what a budget card is about.
You want it even cheaper than its predecessor? Why?
Or you want it to do more bells and whistles and cost more? Why?
@@greatbriton8425 Frame generation is useless because it takes too much vram. And with these weak cards in some cases lowers performance compared to native.
@@Rspsand07 Utter bullshit
@@greatbriton8425 Cope
Amazon is correct: if they show it's a 4060 and nobody gonna steal the package.
If is just an Amazon package, they could gamble. lol
Crypto miners will steal it.
Now that the latest 4060 variant has 16Gb VRAM it's so bizarre that the 4070 still only has 12Gb.
But at least the 4070 ti super has 16gb
the 3060 was the card in my first computer and I gotta say, going into it I thought I should keep my expectations low and not expect crazy good graphics at high fps and I think that's what made the card such a great experience for me. The performance always hit higher than expected and at the end of the day, after completing a hitman mission or a risk of rain run, it truly didn't matter that I was running a last gen budget card because I was having fun.
was able to snag a rtx 4060ti for only $250, at that price point it would be hard to beat. it has been a decent card and defiantly a huge upgrade over the 960ti I had in their previously.
interesting i have an rtx 4060 w/ ryzen 5 5600x, no issues, love the rtx ai features, i dont play CB2077 but i do play tarkov, siege, pubg, cod wz, and no issues all of them excluding tarkov runs at 144fps locked
im still happy with my 1080ti which i bought 2018
how this card holdsup in newer games? Are there any issues?
@@Blaczek29750-55 I guess mix setting
@@Blaczek297 Its perfect if you're using a 1080p monitor. Most newer games you can run at custom high/ultra settings @ 60fps +
@@x9ree i think this card have similar to 4060 performance but way bigger power consumation and memory & memory bus. But probably this card is not for me because I use 1440p monitor
"yeah but it cant gay trace"
so what games look worse with race tracing, ever ray traced game looks too bright to a point that people were shocked how moody the prebaked shadows look in dead island 2.
Your excitement and enthusiasm really sells the 4060! 😅💕
Reasons why rtx 4060 is more expensive:
Newer nvenc (AV1)
Newer dlss
Newer raytracing
Less power usage
Also you could just overclock rtx 4060 to rtx 3060 power usage and it'll be way faster
I like your channel. I’m from Latvia 🇱🇻
I personally start build my pc on AMD from 2009, but whit Nvidia graphics cards, before that I build my pc only on Intel and Nvidia. So I build my new pc in 2015 only on AMD, graphics card and cpu, I’m not amd fan boy. But if u want max FPS per $$$, it’s a best choice 😊
P.S. - Sorry for my bad English 😂
I agree with you
By the way did you encounter any driver issues??
Bro living in 2010@@divine573
@@divine573I have a AMD GPU and until recently Starfield was awful on it (sorry I know Starfield, I beg your forgiveness), stuttering, screen tearing, sound disappearing, but a few updates later and it is running ok. Bought it in July 2023.
Didn't expect a fellow Latvian here, but here we are. Good choice, if you want the best fps per $.
@@divine573 as long as I remember, no I don’t have drivers issues. But I’m never touch settings of driver, like overlock or etc. And cpu, I’m stop overlocking CPU in 2011, because it’s not make any sense anymore. Just for gaming, 60 fps in AAA, and 120/140fps in COD MW2 for me it’s god enough 😂 So I’m not FPS/AMD/ULTRASETTINGS BOY. I’m just like play the games.
I will consider 4060low profile for sff build, really small one.
Yes, they are great for that, but for people with way more money, they get an A2000 for sff builds primarily focused on workstation tasks, but these pro cards can play games surprisingly well, and they have much, muuuuuuuuuuuuuuch longer support from nvidia than their consumer-grade cards, without mentioning that they are extremely optimized for efficiency, they just consume crazy low amounts of power and generate almost no heat. I remember an RTX 8000 could do the same or in some loads the double than a 3090 using less than half the power of a 3090. As much as I have to agree nvidia is greedy, their professional cards are really, really well made and built impeccably, the super long software support for drivers and improvements also are very attractive.
yeah its performance in newer games like alan wake 2 and starfield make it seem like its going to need replacing fast which was probably their goal. it would be a nice upgrade to my 1060 BUT that anemic 8gb is not good when games are starting to push over that.
17:15 was against 4060 until i saw this. Nice render times
i just tested cyberpunk and at 1080p RT Overdrive with DLSS -Q and FG i get 70-74 FPS with good latency really good experience
i got my hands on a 4060ti 8GB a few months ago off ebay (sealed) for 300$ (+7$ Shipping) and its ran all the games i play, and its a very nice card in general, mine is also factory OC'd to some extent and on 3D Mark Time Spy i can easily get 13765 points (Model is Colorful Igame 4060ti Ultra 8GB, 3 Fan)
Are there any good cards from amd in this budget or segment?
Legendary GTX 1060 to this……thing. Egh.
i refuse to abandon the 1060 and put this expensive trash in my pc, for 200-240 maybe but not for 300 plus.
What Cpu you guys got with it
@@arkgaharandan5881it’s for 300 right now same price as the 3060 so I’m bouta just grab it…My 1060 has been getting hot 80c-90c pub g that’s not normal right?
i literally played cyberpunk on ultra settings with max ray tracing and frame gen at 90-100 fps solid, and you know what? the delay isn't even noticeable with reflex enabled. so wow handicapping a card of its specialty seems such a good idea for a fair analysis
This 100%, talk smack about the card all you want, but not using a feature specific to the 4000 series card that massively improves the performance and usability of this card just seems disingenuous in a review video.
Let them haters cry in the comments lmao
I recently bought a "budget gaming pc" that has the RTX 3050 in it, and I love it for what it is. I run things at 1440p and it does just fine for me! That said - I've been using off the shelf desktops for web/graphic design for decades so the upgrade is huge in context for me. I still want to upgrade asap. Mine is the 8GB, wasn't aware there was a 6.
What's weird is I bought a 2060 KO in 2020 for $300 MSRP. One of the cheapest cards I could buy, and it absolutely felt worth my money. Still been sporting it to this day (though I am just building a new computer in the next couple weeks) and it's played everything I wanted to, maybe not at 1440p 120fps, but everything has played at an acceptable framerate, a handful of games have allowed me to enable ray tracing, I've been able to play VR and work in Blender and Maya pretty well too. It's been an absolute champ of a card.
To see people trash all over the 4060 has left me very confused. It's a better card, no? $300 has been their bottom end bar for a long time, unless you wanted a GT710 or GT1030 for like $50. It's the same card I bought but 2 generations newer. It's a better card than what I paid $300 for 4 years ago. Some folks cant afford a cent more for a GPU.
If someone ends up with a 4060, no shame. It's gonna last you awhile, especially has graphical fidelity and improvements slow. Nothing like the 2000s and early 2010s. A 4060 will last you 5+ years if you're smart about it.
I have 4060, upgraded whole rig from i5-10400 + gtx1650 to i5-12400 + rtx4060. I don't know what you are talking about, for my 30min gaming a week it's awesome 😅
Duh, you're comparing a GTX 1650 vs the RTX 4060. Of course, you're going to see improvements. He's talking about the 4060 in a different context.
The 4060 is really a laptop part, in that context it’s actually pretty impressive.
People have crazy expectations these days.
10-15 years ago no one expected to run their games at max settings, in fact fine tuning your settings was part of the fun. In reality whilst actually playing a game instead of pixel peeping you will have just as much fun turning down some settings.
I bought a ps5 recently, it costs less than most graphics cards and looks great without having to stare at frame rate counters and obsessing over texture level quality
I can remember the early / mid 80’s (1980’s not 1880’s thankyou 😡) and it was just a case of put your cassette tape in, type “load”, press play, and 365days later you were playing a game. Back then you could only display 3 or 4 colours on screen at a time, if graphics overlapped then blocks would appear. Fast forward to today I am amazed how far we have come. 👍🏻👍🏻
Fair, but at the same time, it's a £329 - 335 card brand new, and at that price point, you'd expect a genuine xx60 class card with decent VRAM at this point in time, not a xx50 class. Why bother with a 4060 at that point when you could save £100 and just pick up a brand new, low profile / low watt card like the 6600 instead? Both are 8GB and going to end up outdated quite quickly at this point anyway, so if you're on a budget, why not stay budget and get better bang for your buck with a 6600, no?
Hell, you could pick up a used 6700XT cheaper, or a 6650XT. I just don't see a point to a 4060.
@@Hybridizm I probably wouldn’t buy it either unless I was doing a tiny Itx build and wanted max performance for size.
I would buy the mobile variant, as it’s well suited to that in terms of how it performs at lower power.
I have a 6600, works well, doubt 4060 would give me a much better experience overall.
People got spoiled by the higher end 1000 series cards and now expect the lowest end card in a generation to perform close to the level of the top end of the previous generation for less than 20% of the price. If a GPU can't run a game on max settings in 4k at 60FPS it's a waste of money, only FPS matters, even if the card is cooking itself and is drawing more than what a decent PC did a few years ago. Like, a 3090Ti can draw 350W or so, my whole PC with a 2060 I had before drew around that.
For a small or super silent PC this GPU actually opens doors that were closed for years and years. Having 3060 level performance at 110W or so would already be great but then you can undervolt it well into the double digits (wattage), I would imagine. If I hadn't already replaced my 1060 with a 3070 I would buy this card for sure. Of course I understand the VRAM limitation, play on 1080p and make sure to lower texture settings accordingly. For people who want to use graphics presets or just not worry about settings at all this is the wrong card. For people who want SILENCE and aren't afraid to tweak settings I think it's underrated.
4060 is just a badge-creeped 4050ti. Last gen, the real 3060 was the 3060ti, and this gen the real 4060 is the 4070. HOWEVER, if this card was 230-250$ instead of 300-330$, it wouldn’t matter what it’s called because it would’ve been excellent price/perf. It’s effectively a RTX2080 that pulls 115W. This is the best card the SFF market has seen in years. It’s just about 20% overpriced imo.
I think your 4060 has a hardware problem because I have an msi 4060 and in the cyberpunk game in 1080 with high quality and ray tracing medium without path tracing I have about 105 fps
texture files are getting bigger every year and gpu manufacturers are cutting vram with every generation. It's mind boggling
Nvidia: We will give you RT support in our every GPU!
Buy only what you have to do, to enjoy full it's potential ( but don't forget to turn our advanced Frame Generation), is to buy our 4090..
Oh you have no money? It's Okey, we have 4060.
Yeah, but it ca run Ray Tracing?
Of course it can "run"...
It will certainly trace a ray when asked, at its own pace.
Good one 😆
Zotac 4060 solo is the only current gen card that can fit in my Deskmeet. For the size and price, it's capabilities are unmatched. 4060 is a shit GPU for those who are seeking upgrade, but for a fresh build, it's completely okay.
im very happy with my purchase, went from my 1060 6gb to a 4060 and i am loving the boost :)
What is your cpu??
Casually says "Alan Walk 2" which is exactly describes the performance of modern "Triple meh" games.
i call it shaniqua woke, since its a bait and switch and you mostly play as her and they made her black because sweet baby inc said so when she was originally a scandinavian woman. For a story game the writing is terrible. I swear modern games are either survival crafting grindfest, souls clones or open world ubisoft games that are collectahons and when they are not that, they are story games with trash reddit tier writing.
More like Alan Woke 2
yeah current gen games aren't exactly what I want to play with this card and I wished he'd tried older games to see the performance
First time here - good content
I build PCS and for the money people want to spend, usually they want to spend under $1,000 for a PC, so the parts plus my time to build it the 4060 is about the only option I can get, unless I go used. And pairing that with a 12600k, you actually get some damn nice 1080p high refresh gaming. You can build one with a z series MB for about 700 bucks.
the 4060 is gud 💀dont know what this guy is on abt?
It’s basically the exact same as the 3060 for $20 more
1:10 the fact that nobody stole that 720p card speaks for itself.
Yeah I wish I had other options then this after FINALLY upgrading from a laptop. Great performance in comparison to that laptop but I do feel like we are just being sold the worse at the moment and I don't think it will improve any time soon.
As a note: I had no choice but to get the 4060 because it was the only one available in the country that wasn't either literally a 3050 or less or a graphics card that would cost me a kidney
I’ve had a great experience with the 4060 ti but u need to know how to choose the best settings for your games and nvidia settings tho, dlss ultra performance resolution scaling and low latency etc. are your friends with games like cyberpunk and rdr2 etc., idk tho I’m new to pc gaming tho so maybe I’m just easily amazed by all this
I have a 4060 and it does what I need for gaming and other gpu heavy tasks without breaking the bank - so I am quite happy with it. It all about setting real expectations and knowing what you need for your PC
But Sometines it has frame drops
that's what I've been saying, it's the perfect budget nvidia gpu and will definitely last.
@@universalshorts412 no
U should have gotten a rx6600 way better
@@Luisml8ur actually blinded by amd propaganda of u think the 6600 is better 💀
The power efficiency is AMAZING and so is the card. People who want to buy the 4060 should, I got it and I am very happy with it. At the rate of how these people are reviewing cards it's personal opinion atp...
indeed. Also have you notice damn near all reviewers use the same lame games to do tests. I mean there are more games out there than just Fortnite, Hogwarts Legacy and Starfield. Why not a game like Helldivers 2 or one of the racing games.
You are so right, mine works amazing and got it mostly for the efficiency, games like assetto corsa on ultra run with amazing performance@@GRIGGINS1
Just got the following pre built pc:
Core i9 11900KF 16 Threads 5.30GHz - GeForce RTX4060 8 GB - 32 GB 3000 MHz DDR4-1 TB M.2 SSD (With win11 pro and 3 year warranty)
It cost me 888€.
Should I opt for a cheaper PC? If so which one can you recommend?
Should I get a 3060 instead or perhaps an AMD variant with 16gb vram?
My current model does not support over clocking. What is a great setup to look for if I want to future proof for the next 5 or so years?
Thank you
I got the same PC and it was a bit more expensive but you can play anything, so yeah don't worry
As ztt said, there are no bad gpus, only badly priced gpus
i have a 4060 its fr rly good idk why it gets hate
okay i mean for games like fortnite, valorant, overwatch and cod warzone
@@2k-er4meflawless Same bro, im not into that ultra high graphics type games. Its really unnecessary
@@Imgonnabust even on games like overwatch and Fortnite if u play on hight settings u can still run 200+ fps so it rly doesn't matter I'm still upgrading tho cause I wanna try 1440p gaming on those games
Most reviwers have done the tests wrong, since the 20 series in which the AI was introduced with the dlss/dlaa which is not a rescaler but a reconstructor, dlss should always be used because nvidia gpu's are not for rasterization, they are not for Native images, on the other hand, are to reconstruct an image from a lower resolution to a higher one (dlss) or from the base resolution using antialiasing (dlaa). This action reduces vram consumption, increases the fps and when the dlss is activated with rt or pt acts as dinoizer which is the noise remover in the image. By deactivating dlss and fg you are using the nvidia gpu as if it were an amd one which is just rasterization or brute force and the rasterization uses more vram that is why it is seen that the 4060 lacks vram because its architecture is made to use dlss and fg and not to do rasterization only. Another thing, the 60 series is for 1080p, 70 1440p, 80 90 4k, if you try higher resolutions without using dlss or fg you will clearly notice sttutering due to the lack of vram because you are not using dlss or fg in that case Nvidia graphics will not give a good performance and this is wrong?. No, their architecture, how they work, was designed to use dlss, dlaa, fg, reflex. if you don't want image reconstructors, frame generators and reflex, don't use nvidia.