Heat Wrapping the Mopar T/A CAI on my 2020 Dodge Challenger 1320 Scat Pack to Lower Air Intake Temps
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video I get some Aluminized Heat Barrier to wrap the ducting of my Mopar T/A Cold Air Intake in the hopes of lowering my intake air temps and get them closer to ambient.
In this previous video • Installation and Revie... I installed the Mopar CAI on my Challenger 1320 making the front hood scoop truly functional. But in my review, I found that intake temps, although lower than stock, were still rather high above ambient. I concluded this was mostly due to the fact that the ducting sits right above the engine and gets extremely hot, heating up the air as it goes through.
Since I'm stubborn and want to keep the front scoop functional, I figured wrapping it in a heat barrier would help, and that is where we come to this video.
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The heat barrier wrap was a great idea! I've often wondered how to lower temps after making a pass at the dragstrip, and i think this might help.
It definitely does, especially for bracket racers where you need to try and control as many variables as possible. There's that one guy in the 1320 facebook groups who's a hardcore bracket racer and has his intake looking like a lunar landing module with all the insulation and wrap he has around it.
It looks like he's making a spaceship 🚀😅
Great outcome for a few bucks. The rubber connection tube might benefit from an aluminum dryer vent hose shielding it. Would have to be sealed on the ends and also flexible for engine movements. Aluminum hvac tape could work, but not ideal.
Great video. I'm going to wrap my box I have the JLT Version 2 for my Widebody. I noticed the radiator reservoir definetely heats up the rear portion of the box. Thanks again. New subscriber! Fellow Texan
Awesome! Thank You! This heat wrap helps. I actualy bought another sheet of it to cover up some more spots I couldn't get to in this vid.
Bro same I feel I made a mistake selling my K&n typhoon for the jlt did this help before I buy ?
@@brandonUwanawich954 the JLT is by far the best CAI if you have the hellcat hood. The IATS are way down.
@@jonathanslim1486 did the heat wrap help or waste of money
Thanks for the video. I'll be doing this to my T/A as soon as Amazon delivers!
Glad it could help. Thanks for watching!
That's crazy how something so small and simple makes such a big difference. Probably even more noticeable when you are racing
I still have more to do with this CAI saga of mine, but its definitely getting better with each iteration. As far as racing, I think it'll be most noticeable in how the intake temps now stay much closer to ambient for longer when starting up with a cooled engine.
Great video!
I wish there was a kit like this for the Scat Pack Chargers...
Thanks! Yeah, I've had several Charger owners ask me about making it work with their hood. They definitely should have made one for it. One person tried on their own but it needed more modification than what they could do.
thats insane , well done sir
I found the center scoop intake pre-owned on ebay for a reasonable deal and I'm about to undertake this aluminized tape project! Curious if the tape is peeling or no, hows the adhesive? Properly high temp rated zip ties are expensive, like $80 for a bag of 100! Love the videos man great analysis.
The only part of the heatwrap that has peeled off is the section I put on the lower airbox where it’s more of a raised grid instead of a smooth flat surface, so that was almost to be expected. The wrap on the hood duct though is still holding strong and I haven’t had to reinforce it or anything like that. It’s been on now for about 3 years I think.
@@Scavenger1320 Thanks so much for the reply! My intake arrived today and the insulation material is on the way :)
16:36… All CAI are designed to work best under load. As the air is moving. When the plate is not under load it’s closed more and the car can’t use all the air you are forcing in. So it gets hot.
The real test is put it on a Dyno before and after your mod.
Dyno's can be good tools, but IMO the real test is actually on the dragstrip. That said, power gains, if any, weren't my goal here anyway, it really was mostly just because I wanted that front hood scoop to be truly functional.
@@Scavenger1320 drag strip is susceptible to driver error. Once you have dyno numbers, for actual HP gains ( minimal I am sure) then I feel the track is next for 1/4 mile numbers. I have one on my car also, looks cool and I did it for the same reason as you, make that scoop functional. I thought it was dumb that they put a hole in the hood that is basically a dust collector. Thanks for the post.
Great video brother! No to the Update, I keep getting notices but no way. Happy Thanksgiving.
Yup, I'm just gonna keep ignoring that update screen for now. Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving to you too!
You are qualified to work at NASA now!
Ha, well I was in the Air Force but that's about as close to NASA as I'd ever get
Nice. Temps dropped! Nice fastner set. Gonna get me those!
Yeah, having those fasteners really comes in handy, and the sets aren't that expensive
i drove myself crazy with intake temps but living in north texas theres basically no point lol
True, but if I can get that air a couple degrees cooler than the guy next to me I'll take that miniscule advantage
Hey....haven't seen you on ch...talk forum. Curious how your Mopar T/A cai is holding up.
Yeah, I haven’t had much extra time to get into the forum lately. I’ll be back though. The intake is still installed and holding up good with no issues.
Man this seems like a great mod 💪💪💯💯
Yeah, I think so. I might get one more sheet to try and wrap up some more spots that I wasn't able to cover
That definitely helped, good job!
Thanks!
So crazy question would i benefit from wrapping the inside of my hellcat air intake as well. Probably stupid to ask but thought i ask anyways
Trust me, I’ve asked some stupid questions myself lol, but yours isn’t. I don’t think it would help much over just wrapping the exterior alone, it would probably be better just adding more or thicker insulation on the outside. Plus doing it on the inside would take away some of the air space and would probably disrupt the airflow. Normally you want that airflow to be as smooth as possible.
@Scavenger1320 never looked at it that way thanks for the info it definitely helps before I start to wrap it
Have you since opened up the passenger side headlight lamp to get more air in and see what that does with temps?
I'm pretty sure I pulled that cap at the same time I pulled the driver side one for the T/A intake. I'm sure it helps at least a little bit with the engine bay heat on the passenger side, but I doubt it affects the intake temps at all.
The passengers side inlet, I wish was more functional, because it's not near anything, other than generally cooling off the engine. Because the intake manifold is canted towards the driver's side it would be very difficult to route the passengers side towards the airbox, such as a dual snorkel set up. I've pondered trying to create an extended tube that snakes all the way to the airbox but don't know if it's worth it.
@@1320_ikimasho I'm pretty sure I've seen one example where somebody tried to do just that, and it wasn't that pretty with the sharp turns and what needed to be done to connect to the snout facing the opposite way. Sometimes I wish we still had intakes that had a top center mounted carb-like throttle body like my old 360 had in my 02 Ram. That would have opened up so many options.
So off hand did u find out if that helped with the temp after the wrap have u been monitoring it. Also do u think using heat wrap in a hellcat intake would help or hinder it. One would think the wrap would hold in the hot air.
I haven't really monitored it since this vid other than looking at my intake temps every so often, but it definitely made a difference with this T/A intake. The lower part of the T/A intake is the same lower box and tube from a hellcat so it would help with that too, just not as much as it helps with having a duct sitting right on top of the engine. The wrap acts as a shield so it keeps the heat from the engine bay off the intake so that the air moving through it isn't getting heated up as much.
Need something to vent the engine bay! Get that airflow moving out!
Really coo, good thinking. I like the mod, You would think Dodge would supply a heat shield for that intake from the factory, did you check underneath the hood of a T/A? I'd like to see what they did
Thanks again! Yeah, I was surprised how hot even just the lower air box gets. Seems like that would of been a small cheap addition for Dodge but I guess they didn't think it was worth it. I haven't had a chance to see an actual T/A, but afaik, the intake is exactly this system, minus all the heat barrier stuff of course.
@@Scavenger1320 I have a T/A, not heat barrier..yet
Do you know if they make a black heat shield to wrap it with?
Not that I know of. But I know there's a high temp flat back spray paint specifically for high heat scenarios like this that you could find at Home Depot. Not sure how well the paint would stick to this wrap but it could be worth a try if you don't like the silvery look.
Could definitely explore that option also. Picking the system up for my scat in a couple weeks and from there figure out what to do with dropping the heating issues. Still the best system I have seen for our types of hoods. Everything I find is way to open in some way or another especially being over the bezel.
You have pictures of what it looks like looking down through the bezel and under the hood how much the top piece has blocked off?
I’ve been thinking also of opening the passenger headlight for more air flow into the engine compartment to push more heat out.
@@donaldrobinson3770 The driver side vent is essentially completely blocked by that hood duct so there's no heat escaping there. I pulled the passenger side headlight cap off too and that does help. I also removed all the engine bay dress-up plastics too as all that does is trap heat too. Biggest thing I did though was removing the cowl trim, that gave a huge area for heat to escape, but doing that isn't really for everyone as it's really visible and not the best looking, but for me who cares more about drag racing and weight reduction I'm fine with it.
I’m curious whether you feel a difference in horsepower now that temperatures are lower
It's hard to say honestly. These cars are so sensitive to any small change in weather that it's difficult to say when an improvement is from a mod or not. That said, I can definitely feel a difference the cooler the outside air is, so it makes sense that if the intake allows that cooler air to reach the engine instead of heating it up first, the result will be more power.
@@Scavenger1320 thank you for the response. Do you think having the TA intake adds any benefit if at all? What if I try to insulate my stock intake instead
@@JoeBadra insulating any intake should help for sure. I personally think the TA intake does have some benefit, but have no real proof of it and most people will say it doesn't. I do know the T/A cars seem to run quicker than non-T/A scats and that's really the only difference engine wise, even though Dodge still rates them at the exact same 485 horse, which I believe is more because it wasn't really worth it to Dodge to get a different power rating certified just for one of many small trim packages.
@@Scavenger1320 thanks! I actually have a 5.7 so I might try it on that with the insulation. I think it’s still cool to say the hood scoop is “functional”
Just saying the one on the underside of the hood . May keep heat in from the engine ?
All the heat is coming from the engine and the wrap is a barrier between that heat source and the intake duct, so the duct itself is staying cooler now than what it was before I wrapped it.
Hey will that ram air tubing that fits under the hood work on a charger it looks like the hood are very very similar
as far as i know not without some serious modification. I heard from another Charger guy that he was going to try it but then never heard back if he was successful or not.
@@Scavenger1320 but the hoods look very very similar and the scoop looks like its in the same place. But I have the snork tube on my charger and my intake temp runs about 3 degrees higher than outside temp like if is 45 my intake temp is about 47 or 48 that moving about 15 to 20 mph