Just found this video but as a new player who really wants to learn I've learned more here on this video than I have in dozens of videos over the past few weeks. Great content and amazing coaching!
I really appreciate this kind of content. I’ve been playing for years, but just got my brother to play. He’s brand new, so sending content like this is money.
i play this game for like 7 years (not straight) and i was just playing it, never thinking. ive started to take notes, learn from coaching videos and after watching this i really did as youve said im maining jax and there was garen against me, i never hit minions randomly, waited him to push the lane to me so ill be safe i used my skills based on his skill usgae. i got him 5% hp and dived under his turret, and ive realised that im winning the lane easily. i mean, very easy. thx dude :D
I'm new as well, something that really helped me with matchups was playing ARAM and always trying a new champ to see what their abilities are. It's not tilting. The matches are short, and no one is going to flame you for doing bad as long as you're trying to help the team. Also, try playing it without camera lock as it's just up and down movements. 👍
i play for 11 years and i learned so much! thank you neace! i especially liked the offense and defense concepts and will apply them in my games sadly im stuck in very low elo :
This is an incredible video. Since this is alot of info I hope this guy revisits this video a couple of times. I for sure got deeper knowledge about top fundamentals.
Yeah I start playing w my friends the other day and I was so embarrassed because Im playing so shitty but this coaching was really helpful. I realized I have actually lots to learn!
Im a platinum player and my friend just started playing so now I am sending him your videos so he can learn the basics of laning and top lane thanks for the amazing content NICE
been playing this game for more than 5 years and i never thought of the simple 1 for 1 concept and the fact he loses more xp.. jesus league is more awesome than i knew
Ive been doing mundo top and climbing well with it, one thing that works for me is playing a TON of defense because so many tops are huper carries, i defend and dont feed then we win. I do offense when i know my jungler is pathing top.
@21:00 "Why are you hitting the wave?" "Because I want to ensure I get as much of the gold as possible" "Ok, sure, we all want to do that, but the waves of minions only come in every 30 seconds, they don't immediately reinforce, so by smashing the minion wave as fast as we can, the next minion wave is still only going to come in 30 seconds later. If we slowly last hit, then we let the enemy minions come a little closer to us before we have to start hitting them. If we allow the next wave of enemy minions to come at us while we are closer to our tower, then we are safer. The point here is to understand that the enemy minions will not come at us faster if we smash minions in front of us. The enemy minions will always arrive 30 seconds later. So, if we just slowly last hit the minions in front of us, then the next enemy minion wave will arrive to us when we are closer to our tower. If we just smash every minion in front of us, then our minions will creep up and start fighting the enemy minion wave closer to the enemy tower. If our goal is to farm minion gold, then we don't want that." (These are the basics, and you could outsource this part, and then come in and refine it.)
my mans nothing wrong with the hustle $350 coach. good content. amazing coaching. only people i watch is you and midbeast. honest opinion of midbeast? also thank you for your service in the military!
Every single thing you are saying is exactly in line with what you teach, and I value what you teach because I have found it to be correct. So, let me get that compliment out of the way before I say what I say next... "CC", "Leech", "Auto reset", those are terms that advanced players know, not newbs. With a complete newb, you gotta dumb it down even more than that. "Stun you" rather than "CC". "Absorb the level up experience" rather than "Leech". "Combo auto attack into something that counts as an auto attack, to maximize the damage done in a short space of time" rather than "Auto reset". "Auto attack, and then reset the Auto Attack cooldown with an ability that immediately makes your character do an Auto Attack with perks." Even Auto Attacks have a cooldown, based on your Attack speed stat, so an ability that counts as an Auto Attack, can immediately cancel the Auto Attack cooldown. (That is how simple newbs are, they don't know anything.)
we definitely don't know these concepts. When I play support, almost every single game my adc dies of gets chunked out needlessly when the wave is pushing to us (then ping me). And a lot of adc are autofilled solo laners
Not pushing lanes and prioritizing obj and tower damage over kda. Probably chasing when you should be shoving. I won 75% of my games since I watched this video. I always had macro and knew how to end the game quick if I snowballed but I always sucked at lane phase until mid game so I could never consistently snowball. Now the only games I lose are games people surrender before 10 min. Or just flame from champ selection and had no intention on being a good teammate. Most people want LP no matter how they get it. Very small loud minority of dumb low elo players would rather lose playing the way they want too play then adapt and change the play style for the team and get the LP gains. If you already got this down pretty good go focus on improving your macro and end game decisions and focusing on gold and XP advantage over the kda. I see so many games that can end in 25-30 min if people would just follow the leader or the person with the best ideas. If you see a giant minion pile pushed deep passes river and your like 5 seconds away it's always smarter too as a team destroy the tower then back up and go B. It's situational obviously but if you see both teams just playing ARAM mid lane notice that and take the initiative and go back door a tower while everyone fighting over baron or dragon. Sometimes all you need is that one inhib too open the game up
All of Neece videos are goldmines(except when clients got an insane ego). As an unranked player learning this really teaches me how I should go about pushing and not pushing(playing like a bitch.
Man for some reason I didn't like you (coming from cookie - first coaching vids I ever saw) - I not only now like you and think you're good I'm leaving his patreon and thinking of joining yours now (in light of the *things* happening. Thanks man and you are actually brilliant coaching well done, his comments poisoned my opinion on you (but before his *papers* were released I started watching your TH-cam and realized you were actually nice and solid coaching wise ). my first Patreon purchase from his I get no content and now the papers..fml
I find it funny how Neace is all about analogies and exlaining things as if its quantum physics while its the easiest concepts anyone can master by just having a lot of matches under their belts of experience. Just oversimplify and make it a fun experience learning the game than intimidating the newbies. He goes all about this offense/defense and hourglass instead of getting into the essence. Example: Offense/Defense You are in offense when you have a healthier minnion wave, your goal is to crush the wave into the opposing tower and if the opponent tries to farm you harass him/trade blows with him. Mentality "psycho" , you should be mean and do not shy away from a fight when on offense. (I know i know...mindblown) Note: No matter if you misplay and die on offense. Limit testing for newbies. In contrast when you are on defense you should not approach the opponent unless you are really confident on your skill to win a trade but as a general rule of thumb you do not trade and just keep distance. Not to much, just enough to be safe, not take damage while also close enough to get exp from minnions that die in the lane in front of you. You farm safely under tower or you "steal" minnions. Steal: Last hit minnion in such a timing/position that the opponent can not harass you or will put him in an uncomfortable position himself. Mentality "pussy" You do not get to dictate which minnions you can get without a trade of blows, so your best choice is to avoid conflict/damage at all and get what you can while keeping your healthbar as full as possible. Garen's enchanted health regeneration is what makes him a good and very forgiving newb pick. "Hourglass" When you have stacked a big blop/wave of your minnions and crush them under the opposing tower, you should be either harassing or going crazy over killing the opponent OOOORRR. You can leave the lane temporarily to impact the game. The "hourglass" analogy comes from the fact that you have to come back to your lane as soon as that minnion wave you crushed dies and the roles of offense/defense switch. Remember you can TEMPORARILY leave the lane while that minnion wave of yours is crushing. Crushing: Minnion wave striking the opposing tower. Why would you leave the lane? As mentioned: 1. To ward 2. To recall 3. To rotate (go other lane and gang up on the opponent if there is a chance) 4. For objective (Herald/Dragon) But always remember...you have indeed a TIMER (hourglass) to come back to lane as soon as your crushing wave dies in order to continue the laning phase, get exp and yadda yadda otherwise you fall behind. There...these are the simpliest concepts explained and easily understood for anyone. Thats a 5 mins maximum read...take it or leave it. Instead of paying and wasting time.
As someone who for the most part goes on muscle memory at this point, this video was so good as a lesson discussion on core fundamentals, appreciated that a lot🤍
I think you could outsource teaching of the absolute basics, because even I know how to teach them, and then maybe you could come in after the session of teaching the basics to refine it.
Honestly, He doesnt understand how confusing his coaching is for new players, Over complicating and using metaphors for absolutely no reason, You could tell the guy was saying yes but he actually didnt understand most of the time.
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Really enjoyed this kind of coaching-content. Really newbie-friendly.
I'll take as much content from you as possible, NEACE. Love content like this
Just found this video but as a new player who really wants to learn I've learned more here on this video than I have in dozens of videos over the past few weeks. Great content and amazing coaching!
Hey man, checking up a year later, how's the journey going?
I can't believe how many guides I had to go through to find one that ACTUALLY explains the basics... thanks for the upload!
For real. So many click bait "guides" out there
I really appreciate this kind of content. I’ve been playing for years, but just got my brother to play. He’s brand new, so sending content like this is money.
i play this game for like 7 years (not straight) and i was just playing it, never thinking.
ive started to take notes, learn from coaching videos and after watching this i really did as youve said
im maining jax and there was garen against me, i never hit minions randomly, waited him to push the lane to me so ill be safe
i used my skills based on his skill usgae.
i got him 5% hp and dived under his turret,
and ive realised that im winning the lane easily. i mean, very easy.
thx dude :D
Dude love the way you coach and explain haha old school tough love
I'm new as well, something that really helped me with matchups was playing ARAM and always trying a new champ to see what their abilities are. It's not tilting. The matches are short, and no one is going to flame you for doing bad as long as you're trying to help the team. Also, try playing it without camera lock as it's just up and down movements. 👍
Would have loved to see you take this guy through a game after this lesson, would have been interesting to see how much it changed what he does.
i play for 11 years and i learned so much! thank you neace!
i especially liked the offense and defense concepts and will apply them in my games
sadly im stuck in very low elo :
Username checks out
had a good chuckle over that@@mojolito
I Love this! Knowing you're talking to someone new and Coming from that I LOVE
More value in this video from 1 coaching session than some of those $5 coaches will do in their lifetime.
This is an incredible video. Since this is alot of info I hope this guy revisits this video a couple of times. I for sure got deeper knowledge about top fundamentals.
Yeah I start playing w my friends the other day and I was so embarrassed because Im playing so shitty but this coaching was really helpful. I realized I have actually lots to learn!
man this game is giving me depression the people i run into if your doing bad they flame tf out of you
Seeing chat ranting to give live coaching to whats clearly a replay perfectly sums up the LoL low elo community
Im a platinum player and my friend just started playing so now I am sending him your videos so he can learn the basics of laning and top lane thanks for the amazing content NICE
Damn I wish this was longer. I just started playing yesterday and have no idea what I’m doing.
Do you still play?
@@Ash-my4gf nah, don’t have the time to dedicate
We need more like this
been playing this game for more than 5 years and i never thought of the simple 1 for 1 concept and the fact he loses more xp.. jesus league is more awesome than i knew
explain every detail this guy is by far the best coach ever.
Ive been doing mundo top and climbing well with it, one thing that works for me is playing a TON of defense because so many tops are huper carries, i defend and dont feed then we win. I do offense when i know my jungler is pathing top.
@21:00 "Why are you hitting the wave?"
"Because I want to ensure I get as much of the gold as possible"
"Ok, sure, we all want to do that, but the waves of minions only come in every 30 seconds, they don't immediately reinforce, so by smashing the minion wave as fast as we can, the next minion wave is still only going to come in 30 seconds later.
If we slowly last hit, then we let the enemy minions come a little closer to us before we have to start hitting them.
If we allow the next wave of enemy minions to come at us while we are closer to our tower, then we are safer.
The point here is to understand that the enemy minions will not come at us faster if we smash minions in front of us. The enemy minions will always arrive 30 seconds later.
So, if we just slowly last hit the minions in front of us, then the next enemy minion wave will arrive to us when we are closer to our tower.
If we just smash every minion in front of us, then our minions will creep up and start fighting the enemy minion wave closer to the enemy tower.
If our goal is to farm minion gold, then we don't want that."
(These are the basics, and you could outsource this part, and then come in and refine it.)
Some of this sounds so basic and obvious, but I swear I've never realized some of these concepts after years of brainless solo Q. Thanks neace
You look like Dennis Reynolds, from IASIP, in the thumbnail.
Anyway, i'm 9 minutes in and learned alot already. thanks!
A for algorithm.
This content is exactly what I want.
New player here, thanks for the content! The coaching is great
my mans nothing wrong with the hustle $350 coach. good content. amazing coaching. only people i watch is you and midbeast. honest opinion of midbeast? also thank you for your service in the military!
Every single thing you are saying is exactly in line with what you teach, and I value what you teach because I have found it to be correct.
So, let me get that compliment out of the way before I say what I say next...
"CC", "Leech", "Auto reset", those are terms that advanced players know, not newbs.
With a complete newb, you gotta dumb it down even more than that.
"Stun you" rather than "CC".
"Absorb the level up experience" rather than "Leech".
"Combo auto attack into something that counts as an auto attack, to maximize the damage done in a short space of time" rather than "Auto reset".
"Auto attack, and then reset the Auto Attack cooldown with an ability that immediately makes your character do an Auto Attack with perks."
Even Auto Attacks have a cooldown, based on your Attack speed stat, so an ability that counts as an Auto Attack, can immediately cancel the Auto Attack cooldown.
(That is how simple newbs are, they don't know anything.)
bro, thanks! very well explained
rhis is very nice ! did not know garen q took off slow
his W also gives you a lot of tenacity. but for less than 1 second so you have to time it perfectly before getting crowd controlled
Do this except for: high-silver/>>gold/plat range concepts. We know what champs do, we know offense/defense, whats next coach neace?
we definitely don't know these concepts. When I play support, almost every single game my adc dies of gets chunked out needlessly when the wave is pushing to us (then ping me). And a lot of adc are autofilled solo laners
did he have no items at the beginning?
lol I also handle glass for a living.
best coaching content out there
I win 90% of my lanes as a top laner and I'm still losing 80% of my games, what am I doing wrong.
Not pushing lanes and prioritizing obj and tower damage over kda. Probably chasing when you should be shoving. I won 75% of my games since I watched this video.
I always had macro and knew how to end the game quick if I snowballed but I always sucked at lane phase until mid game so I could never consistently snowball. Now the only games I lose are games people surrender before 10 min. Or just flame from champ selection and had no intention on being a good teammate.
Most people want LP no matter how they get it. Very small loud minority of dumb low elo players would rather lose playing the way they want too play then adapt and change the play style for the team and get the LP gains.
If you already got this down pretty good go focus on improving your macro and end game decisions and focusing on gold and XP advantage over the kda.
I see so many games that can end in 25-30 min if people would just follow the leader or the person with the best ideas. If you see a giant minion pile pushed deep passes river and your like 5 seconds away it's always smarter too as a team destroy the tower then back up and go B.
It's situational obviously but if you see both teams just playing ARAM mid lane notice that and take the initiative and go back door a tower while everyone fighting over baron or dragon. Sometimes all you need is that one inhib too open the game up
@@McLovinMcFlurry Believe it or not I am always pushing, even if drag or baron is up, I 99% of the time am in another lane.
How do you get that paint overlay in your games? Is it already built in to the replay system?
Thanks for the Video, helped me alot.
Most confusing and elaborate to follow advice barely any direction or structure 😂
The hat killed me 😂😂
good video, learn the basics master the basics
The fact a new player had to drop 350$ for a tutorial says a lot about the game
no one pointed a gun at this guy and forced him to pay for coaching
He's targeting that at riot stupid. He's saying if riot had a proper tutorial he wouldn't have the market for $350 coaching sessions
Why does this guy have my voice? Did I ask for a coach without realizing one drunk night
Neace is a fking legend, still come back to watch this even no longer play..
i wonder how's that guy rn
Did anyone notice the guy didnt buy anything lvl 1 ?
All of Neece videos are goldmines(except when clients got an insane ego). As an unranked player learning this really teaches me how I should go about pushing and not pushing(playing like a bitch.
Man for some reason I didn't like you (coming from cookie - first coaching vids I ever saw) - I not only now like you and think you're good I'm leaving his patreon and thinking of joining yours now (in light of the *things* happening. Thanks man and you are actually brilliant coaching well done, his comments poisoned my opinion on you (but before his *papers* were released I started watching your TH-cam and realized you were actually nice and solid coaching wise ). my first Patreon purchase from his I get no content and now the papers..fml
Dark souls you never win you die alot and get a little better each time
I find it funny how Neace is all about analogies and exlaining things as if its quantum physics while its the easiest concepts anyone can master by just having a lot of matches under their belts of experience. Just oversimplify and make it a fun experience learning the game than intimidating the newbies.
He goes all about this offense/defense and hourglass instead of getting into the essence.
Example:
Offense/Defense
You are in offense when you have a healthier minnion wave, your goal is to crush the wave into the opposing tower and if the opponent tries to farm you harass him/trade blows with him.
Mentality "psycho" , you should be mean and do not shy away from a fight when on offense.
(I know i know...mindblown)
Note: No matter if you misplay and die on offense. Limit testing for newbies.
In contrast when you are on defense you should not approach the opponent unless you are really confident on your skill to win a trade but as a general rule of thumb you do not trade and just keep distance. Not to much, just enough to be safe, not take damage while also close enough to get exp from minnions that die in the lane in front of you. You farm safely under tower or you "steal" minnions.
Steal:
Last hit minnion in such a timing/position that the opponent can not harass you or will put him in an uncomfortable position himself.
Mentality "pussy"
You do not get to dictate which minnions you can get without a trade of blows, so your best choice is to avoid conflict/damage at all and get what you can while keeping your healthbar as full as possible.
Garen's enchanted health regeneration is what makes him a good and very forgiving newb pick.
"Hourglass"
When you have stacked a big blop/wave of your minnions and crush them under the opposing tower, you should be either harassing or going crazy over killing the opponent OOOORRR. You can leave the lane temporarily to impact the game. The "hourglass" analogy comes from the fact that you have to come back to your lane as soon as that minnion wave you crushed dies and the roles of offense/defense switch. Remember you can TEMPORARILY leave the lane while that minnion wave of yours is crushing.
Crushing:
Minnion wave striking the opposing tower.
Why would you leave the lane?
As mentioned:
1. To ward
2. To recall
3. To rotate (go other lane and gang up on the opponent if there is a chance)
4. For objective (Herald/Dragon)
But always remember...you have indeed a TIMER (hourglass) to come back to lane as soon as your crushing wave dies in order to continue the laning phase, get exp and yadda yadda otherwise you fall behind.
There...these are the simpliest concepts explained and easily understood for anyone. Thats a 5 mins maximum read...take it or leave it. Instead of paying and wasting time.
As someone who for the most part goes on muscle memory at this point, this video was so good as a lesson discussion on core fundamentals, appreciated that a lot🤍
Plz guys explain e q w to me❤❤❤
This was hard to watch as a veteran silver player 😏
I think you could outsource teaching of the absolute basics, because even I know how to teach them, and then maybe you could come in after the session of teaching the basics to refine it.
This dude just had to play a little more and watch some basic guides..why blow money on coaching, rich??
Honestly, He doesnt understand how confusing his coaching is for new players, Over complicating and using metaphors for absolutely no reason, You could tell the guy was saying yes but he actually didnt understand most of the time.
0 fking % win rate? hows taht even possible
He doesn’t understand the game man how are you flaming a new player for being bad
@@Onyx_Dripp no no no no. Everyone gets sometimes a lucky game with hard carry. I also won. 4 v 5 games before with an afk
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