Why YOU SUCK at TOP LANE (And How To Fix It) - League of Legends
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Chapters:
0:00 - Introduction
0:34 - The Top Lane Myth
2:07 - Get The Push Lead
3:50 - Cheater Recall
6:00 - You Don't Get The Push
10:16 - The Early Gameplan
11:16 - The Rest of The Lane
14:30 - Levels 7 to 9
16:32 - Top Lane Macro
20:19 - Outro
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Welcome to JG role!
Welcome to support brother
Reported for saying i suck at Top Lane
+15 LP
I am an ADC player who will never play top lane in ranked, but I will use this knowledge for when I play norms with Cho'gath and Ornn because I just bought their cute April Fools skins. So thank you.
For me it's exactly opposite, I hate playing every role apart from top and jungle 😂
@nanimopopo2170 good skins will put you in uncomfortable positions lol. I play a lot of aram so I'll have the skins for those too
I play ranged top laners 😂
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@@XixCrimsonShadedoes yr mom know you do this?😂
I like how much they can fit into a 20min fool-proof guide, keep it up :)!
Very helpful video, I hope I can apply it correctly in the game!!
The top lane in LoL made me wanna leave for DotA. I simply don't think it makes sense gameplay-wise for the top lane to be unforgiving as it is.
And the best way to bypass is playing as boring as possible.
My main in Toplane is Shen, for just one reason: So I can teleport out of that hellhole as much as possible.
8:45 the only reason he didn't lose much farm here is because he ulted back to the lane LOL. Without TP, most champs would have lost quite a bit if they recalled there before the canon wave, no?
Yeah, it is so easy after level 6 to push a wave back, I do this many times, push a big wave, recall, by the time I come back, I have lost the entire wave, so technically the enemy gets ahead of you unless you have TP or Sion ult.
That's why tp is importance, especially early game since lose 1 wave could mean a lot so if you were in a bad position and need a reset, or get gank and now facing the pressure of the enemies crash into your towner and lose your xp and gold, so tp come in to help you navigate that bad situation, Sion R is just a huge replacement for tp so you can switch tp to something else like ghost + flash, or flash + ignite, etc.... and also his passive help with setup wave, crashing wave and so on, that's why Baus abused those thing so effectively, but it's does not make Sion op, it's just make up for what he lack in mobility and so on. What Im saying is that, every toplaners can apply this strat as long as they bring tp with them, it's only rotten range toplaner's brain with flash + ghost trying to cheese will get punish for it in longer run
Good catch. That's honestly our bad for using Sion as an example, but I promise you that in the majority of situations you can get back to lane in time to pick up the wave. Sometimes you're a bit late and lose a few and sometimes if you recall really late you'll lose the whole wave and have to use Sion ult or teleport. The way you can tell how much time you have is by looking at your next incoming wave, the further away the more time you'll have since it mirrors where the enemy's next wave is too.
It’s champion dependent. Higher wave clear champs especially garen make it very difficult to get a bounce back. You have to pretty much do a proxy wave clear and back asap so they dont dont end up pushing their wave under your turret before you get back to lane
@@cordgonsinged7676Love how Garen can stay broken patch after patch. Builds Berserker's boots and then has infinite waveclear.
ty so much, i went from silver1 85lp to plat2 40lp in 3 days
When u win top 4/0 but mid n bot destroyed going 1/5 n 3/12 at 15 mins...
i am otp toplaner and was really waiting for you guys to upload top lane guide thank you so much love it
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@@jlover2468 Why are you placing this here as a youtube comment, lol.
Not the enemy champion stat checking me with no minions and down items
awesome video guys tks
Literally how i got to master from platinum this season:
-Learn how to manage waves
-Play Vayne and Rumble
Certified pdf
Could you make a video about how to break these concepts with proxy?
Thanks!
I have understood. And i have used this already. but it all does not matter if the enemy gets 3 ganks from jgl, one from mid and one from support, whilst my jgl just visits to steal kanon and plates.... :(
This video officially made me quit being a top lane main. Its just such a unforgiving lane. Wave management isnt fun. I dont feel like losing an entire game because I took a bad recall.
Or lose the lane because you got 1st pick
this is cope wave management does not take high Iq and if you take a bad recall it’s on you
Honestly, it is pretty ridiculous how different midlane is. You can literally just push over and over. Roam to other lanes or annoy the enemy jungler.
Repeat. And it's crazy how many junglers just rotate between bot and mid over and over. I think Riot has really failed in trying to make top less of an island - despite the added toplane objectives.
Best single video guide ever!
"you must know wave control"
me refusing to lane as singed:
is it always wave control?
always has been
ahh dude this totally will help me cause i just started again i totally dont know how to play top rn
Tip #1, don’t play Top
instructions unclear, ended up locking in karma top
endnu en god video fra ProfitPeter
should a gragas top try to get the push lead or should he play more safe because of bad early
Please do a midlane version of this video pleaseeee
The same video for mid lane would be cool. I personally have problems with roaming timings. If there already is a video like this please let me know .
Thanks :)
It doesnt really apply for midlane. You see, in top, after you set up the big crash and the recall, the opponent has to clear and recall to avoid being behind in items. The result is that the first guy who crashed will return to a big wave and get the xp lead, not the item advantage, as the other guy also recalled, just xp.
This should then become a back and forth unless the guy that defended the crash does not recall. But that is quite the point of the set up. If you recalled and he didnt, when you receive the wave, you have the item advantage plus the lvl advantage. You only need to trim the wave to 4 minions and freeze it as long as you can. If he comes close, you trade, you kill him or force him to recall and he will actually lose a wave or 2.
But in mid it doesnt really work like that because there are mages. So if one side recalls and the other doesnt. You cant really freeze it due to longer ranged spells that will eventually make the wave crash.
The only realistic thing you can do is to build up a wave, crash it, recall and get the xp lead. If he doesnt recall, you also get the mana and hp lead. Might want to call your jungler to get him when he is overextended so the enemy burns flash or he retreats and allows you to keep the freeze for a few moments in any case. You then use your mana, hp and lvl advantage to bully him out and make him recall and lose a wave. But that requires you to actually hit your skills.
What you can do instead is to dance in and out of the maximum range of your opponent and making him miss his spells on you. then, after that ability is down, you can try to hit him and the wave when he has to go for a last hit.
What about wave management with Urgot? Cause he naturally pushes the wave
I understand now why ranged top lane is so hated now. They can basically skip this turn based slow push cycle and harass you or farm with smaller risk from minions or trading with the other champ.
i am pready good at laning now i feel like i am diamond 3 rn but i often find myself in a situation where i cant carry because sometimes i make some mistakes after laning phase i know carrying in mid to high rank rquieres to do some risky plays but i feel like i fail that a lot of the time
Easy, the enemy jg keeps camping me mega hard and buys vision for the top lane. Apparently they think the game is won from top. Meanwhile my jg doesn't do grubs, dragon or gank any other lane.
Their jungle being laser focused on you, so long as you don't feed kills, means they're losing farm, xp, vision and giving your mid and bot lane space and lack of gank pressure to make plays.
It sucks to be in that spot but as long as you're keeping them tied up, you're providing value to the team. Of course we can't help the rest of the team be good, but at least we can help them be the best version of themselves
Skill capped videos becoming kinda goated tbh
i am fairly sure that on some matchups u do not want to have the push lead
Please make an Irelia Top Guide pleeeaase
I have a little trouble with the first part of this video, Champs like jax,sett,darius,olaf,riven,pantheon, Quinn,vayne...etc can actually just run at you lvl1 and you'll die before you hit 2.while your minions do basically nothing. Like first example if Renekton had just started autoing, wouldn't change that fact other than him being chunked and his lane pushing away.
this might be the best video out there for laners
Isnt the darius example on push lead very poor choice of champs? Darius will run almost any champ down on lvl 1 and if rene was hitting minions the lane would push towards darius side allowing him to zone rene from xp and gold even harder than usualy.
I honestly would like to know your thought on this since I as P1 Ornn OTP would just stand away from first bush and wait for Darius to do his "brrr, must-hit-things" strat and just farm under turret until I have items to fight him. But maybe I just have PTSD from how many times Darius players cheesed me on lvl 1.
@@Evaded-nm7sr thats very helpfull insight, thank you.
I know its cheeky to ask, but any tips against morde matchup? I have watched countless videos but still keep losing it
@@Evaded-nm7sr your english is good, dont worry. Again amazing tips. I kinda see where I did the mistake - letting him proc his passive. Its better to give up cs and few hp to not let him stack the passive.
Thank you so much for these tips :)
As a jg main i just use this to learn more about waves.
This is all very solid advice. It's not gonna make you a god tier player but it will absolutely help you out of low elo. I'm D1 which isn't anything crazy but before I learned all of these things I was trapped in bronze and silver peaking gold. I could've saved myself a lot of hours of play time and struggle by watching this. It may seem like simple obvious things because that's what they eventually become but when you don't know or understand them it can be the difference between silver and diamond.
Oh boy cant wait to jump into a game with a good feeling and getting completely annihalitated by a lvl 3 dive with enemy jungler
4:50 u forgot about that u cant use that vs fast clear champs
need a video like this for mid
There is one, came out a couple months ago. It's the The Complete Beginner's Guide for Mid Lane in Season 14.
@@saltysavagexd thanks i will check it.
That first renekton situation really doesn’t make sense
this channel is good for teaching u the basics and sure they are very usefull but they forget to tell u many things that can go wrong with every single decision they present. They show the cheater recall strategy like something that you can do every game and has no counterplay at all, but thats wayyy too far from the truth , specially from master and above
Bro their content is for low elo players not maters+
I mean Zed vs Renekton obviously can't walk up to shove the wave into the tower. Renekton always has the option to freeze in that matchup...
Yea I was shocked when I saw that as one of the games used. Surely there's gotta be a better example than that
ive been following this guide. i have dropped from gold to silver *skull emoji*
I fell asleep with this channel's videos autoplaying now I'm stuck in Challenger
the fact that i don't suck, knowing damn well i either win it or be in a stalemate tells me i need to watch this video, because my stats might say i don't suck at top, as far i see, having an illaoi on top is just straight up insta quit for me, so i decided that even if i go top as nasus, i rather deal with jax or darius than illaoi
after watching the video, yeah i suck
this is amazing content and i love what i learned. now it's riots time to step up their game with rebalancing teams and tiers. when i do all this in toplane to get 1 kill and 1 plating, my teammates will do a grand tour of most amount of deaths in 5 minutes, whilst screaming at each other like little babies.
Just counter your oponnent. Item lead more minons? Does not matter if i ghost on daruis and simply run at kayle
now i know why i don’t suck at top lane, i play teemo
I play Nasus . Is my laning phase cooked?
Nasus is stronger than people expect early. You can't trade like a donkey but he can catch people by surprise especially after 6 with a sheen. Also his life steal makes it hard to push him out of lane if you aren't pushing your wave with E.
@danielboulos7749 nah dude , i started playing trundle , i am on an 11 match win streak with him , and played vs a nasus ( i expected him to be very weak ) but his w full countered me and his e was insane poke . Still won in the end but it was close
i am now a skarner top abuser so this comes is handy
I watched this video and went from gold to bronze (I’m a jungler and apparently shouldn’t be spending my time pushing my top laners wave and cheater recalling)
Because they don't ever look at minimap, get afk all game playing their sidegame, and don't matter what, never listen to pings, all miss, extremely overextended, the whole team danger pinging them, no other lane with pression nor objectivies up, and they just ignore everything, it's like they are 2 elos above what they deserve.
what are u talking about... double spike q, meanwhile he uses first q before 50stack furry, then instead of use furry with w cause he aint gonna die anyway just needs burst , heuses on q, and doesnt reset auto on w? like what iam watching
@5:40 "set up a tower dive, more on this later"
???
@9:40 "this is a great time to tower dive, like we taught you earlier"
Because if I pick Melee, they pick always Range!
i hate my life (toplane main)
Amazing video thank you seriously thinking of subscrubig
Even my lane trembles. lol
thank you for another decently useful content.
This guide is soo generalized that it doesn’t really apply to all champions like Kayle or Nasus that need to farm under tower.
If you have fun in top lane, there is something wrong.
Everything is true, except for the fact nothing here matters if you get counterpicked by a range top laner that also giga scales.
And thinking just "do well" against counter picks, is heavily downplaying the enemy advantage on draft + underestimating enemy.
Especially how much gold advantage range vs melee match up is being generated.
Before anyone tries to reply my comment, just remember Ornn and Chogath tank top were buffed but only otp plays them due to how aggressively unfun it is against Range top. Considering Vayne and other range top are meta, + karma top is still fresh on people minds recent patches.
And for people who think just play properly. Just look at WR having shorter game time, there's no one sane people playing the bruiser/tank top. Its all range/assassin. Cause why bother playing a class that has a short ass time of window to win the game, when you can just pick range/assassin win the lane while also scaling to late game.
8:52 won't lose any farm after the rebound. Yes sure buddy, you used Sion ult to get back to lane and only just grabbed 4 minions. Not every one can do that.
and after cheater recall you return to your lane into a slow push and your jugler run down the lane for you and spam pinging you.
So this is how the enemy top laner keeps getting double kills before krugs even spawn!
They dont explain melee vs ranges matchups interesting
one contradiction after the other^^ "not about trading"... 11:17 "all about trading"
This reminds me that riot should fix bot matches, we don’t need two bots on top or super aggressive ai
... I play soraka heartsteel top . It s not work for me 😂
But I climbed two divisions top this season :(
We’re getting out of bronze with this one boys!
i suck because i like to. how it comes to my skills in game?
but how do you counter freezing?, like if you try to farm, you die
Pray
@@poom323 Thank you🙏
Friendly reminder: if you're ever behind in top lane, feel free to give up cs for 5 minutes, and you can turn renekton into a pair of crocodile boots.
p.s. when's the next hector challenge? 🥺
heeeey 🐊 my croc cant be boot
okay but the third wave you push in as your cheater recall example @5:00 is right outside the tower and the only reason you get to push it in is because of matchup. if darius or olaf or tf with ghost is there you cannot push in that wave that close to tower without getting run down. you pushed to fast in your example of not pushing to fast lol.
Yeaaa but Remember if you do early cheat recall you will ALWAYS(90% of the time if next wave dont go on the enemy tower)lose 2-3 mele (xp+gold) Minions from your+ if you will recall on lvl 3-4 then enemy will have faster lvl then you (5 lvl vs 4lvl) so he will have more resist,armor,DMG and HP. Cheat recall is risky af.
Sorry bcs of mine bad english but i guesss you understood WHO read this❤ enjoy top lane
I dropped a 24/5/8 right after I watched this video, IDK what happened but it really helped 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I watch all of these top lane guides. I am winning 5/20 rounds.
it kinda sounds boring after lvl 6 then to play waves pushing only, WE TRADE THOSE!!!!
say i am low elo or whatever but this game is made for fun
If renekton is gonna hit the wave there he is even more fucked coz darius can zone him while the wave is pushing away from him
@@Evaded-nm7sr decent argument
What 😹
Tell me your peak if there is even point in arguing
@@Evaded-nm7sr well people in emerald dont even zone from first 3 minion of xp when possible. In a match up they play often that dosent mean they cant do it
the easiest toplaner for farming and shredder tanks is Illaoi
Watched your video and I guess I’m not doing a single thing wrong. I simply get trash junglers that feed my lane.
Hey can you pls help how can i get refund theres no custmor service i bought the yearly plan by mistake and i cant get it back im serching for a whole hour pls help
JG be like Am i invisible
"Winning your lane is easier than you think"
Both toplaners: "Oh, so I'm gonna win easily!"
No you don't.
Then if you win feed adc comes min 15 and easy kills you if you dont have ghost
It's all about getting the last pick, you counter pick, and then get lane dominance for free.
if you are ornn you don`t´need too do a cheater recall because of his pasive
Hey can you pls help how can i get refund theres no custmor service i bought the yearly plan by mistake and i cant get it back im serching for a whole hour pls help
Also I want rework or nerf on mord and other stat checkers plss they are always too op
Hey can you pls help how can i get refund theres no custmor service i bought the yearly plan by mistake and i cant get it back im serching for a whole hour pls help
Or you just counterpick with a meta champ.
Tbh it is a really good guide and easy explained. Good Job
Edit: You can also make the wave push back into you even tho the both waves should go in the middle (neutreal psition). You have to pull the enemy wave by pulling them to first bush in top lane
Using Darius and Renekton as an example is a poor example IMO. Renekton is weaker than Darius level 1. Darius is standing in first bush to cheese Renekton if he walks up too far. If Renekton hits the wave then Darius can walk out with W level 1 and ghost to pressure Renekton while the wave pushes into Darius. Darius can then trim the wave at his leisure. I can't agree with making fun of Renekton here because if he were to just push out he could very well die or lose sums in this situation where the Darius is already camping first bush for level 1 cheese.
Top lane curse: Win lane = lose game
Ofc i suck at top lane cause i only at mid
And meanwhile you doing all this your bot is going 0/18 and your jungler is afk farming :D
good video , you guys forgot something tho , u begin taking the push and then sudenly u get level 2 ganked ( by a strong lvl 2 jungler like lee sin , j4 etc) and you die . Next the wave is in a horrible spot because you pushed it in and its now frozzen and u you can no longer do anything , enemy jungler is topside , your jungler doesnt wanna help because its soloque and he doesnt understand toplane or just doesnt care and you just lose , gg jg diff u cant do anything , this video is situational
Easy solution. Ward enemy buff level 1 to make sure they aren't starting there.
@@burritogod59 yeah , u forgot smthing too , you get caught at 1 minute trying to ward enemy buff , you die at 1:25 or so , and if you dont have tp you already lost from minute 1 , if you do have tp well -1 spell + you know you cant push and your enemy will cheater recall on you and you lose again
@@burritogod59 there is no easy solution in league on anything , everything can go wrong in so many different ways . Im an grandmaster toplaner my self so i know many of them
@terrorking8893 in grandmaster your jungler is good enough to punish an enemy jungler ganking level 2 with only red buff. That strat hasn't been viable in ages in high elo. I call BS on you being grandmaster. You just want to complain.
@@burritogod59 well first of all i can totally tell u never played high elo , people in GM are not always as good as u think they are.Many could even be autofill which is even worse.I have 2 things to say about your whatever argument was that u said above.
1) If u mean punish by invading and stealing camps so what , the enemy will go take our camps with the top prio he got with the lvl 2 gank
2) Even if he actually punishes that doesnt mean that the enemy jg didint destroy your lane and u cannot lane anymore or that he doesnt have any other options to play if my jungler stole 2 camps.
Lastly i dont know where u saw me complaining , i just stated a few facts and situations that can go terribly wrong that are not said in the video and you have to adapt on them to be a good laner.
So I get a full refund if I don’t rank up. No questions asked?
What if I don’t play ranked and therefore don’t rank up.
Hey can you pls help how can i get refund theres no custmor service i bought the yearly plan by mistake and i cant get it back im serching for a whole hour pls help
@@jlover2468 I have no clue sorry, I just said this as a hypothetical joke.
I don’t actually use their guide.
Is their way to email or dm the guy who runs it manually? If there’s no customer service you probably need to contact them some other way