I really don’t think he’s as much of a hardass as y’all think It’s not about making bad plays or not, it’s moreso about listening to him and taking directions
He would just learn u the fundamentals and build from that but the problem with this guy was that he can do but he just doesnt do it. He knows what to do and gets told what to do but hesitates. I do feel bad for him at the end tho
Neace is a good LoL Player and knows his stuff. But mentally he has some serious Isues!! Thats not the way a good Teacher is acting! He behaves like a liitle Kid not a grown Man. The People who hire him arent perfect thats the hole Reason they ask for coaching. Dont expect them to play like the Teacher. And why exactly is he mad? Did he only get payed for a win? I think not! So whats the Point?
@@highwave1105 No its not! You are the Client you pay, you are the Boss. Its your Time your Money and youre pleasure and youre the one who chooses! Of Course you should listen but you dont must do it. And if youre dont listen then why he got mad about it as a Coach? As a coach you dont lose anything. It is a mental Issue. He needs to work on it for sure thats not a Healthy behavior!!!! And definetly not one for a Teacher Coach or a Parent!
Honestly the guy didn't deserve the attitude. A full hour trying to retake a game that was lost from min 15, carrying out almost every instruction to the best of his ability (despite some of the instructions would appear to me as pretty unclear/ambiguous or simply can't understand the reasoning behind it to extrapolate into a continuous play), while simultaneously adding a bunch of new concepts to your gameplay that you don't usually do (and definitely take some serious conscious effort to perform accurately). The veigar was champ, I don't give a fuck how entitled you feel about your "teaching", it deserves an apology. The guy hesitated for a second and gets shit for it, completely uncalled for.
neace is a douchebag in general. don't know why people choose to book a session with him specifically when there's plenty of other coaches out there who won't treat you like a piece of shit for making a bad play lmao
Was honestly just thinking I felt bad for the guy. Neace says he needs a drink of water and the guys, "sure" sounds like a son who just disappointed his dad and is at risk of being disowned from the family lol. But, Neace tells it like it is. No coddling. He gets paid for a reason!
Actually he did pretty good. Never seen a Veigar get that many kills 😂 He just fucked up right at the end. Like when everything is going just as planned and you're at your best and when you need it the most, the worst thing that could happen actually happens when you less expect it I hope Neace had apologized after that, he lost it xD
Yeah but his a late game vei with ALOT of fire power. He pretty much one taps everyone that he hits a w q combo on. If he took the yi out like neace said it’s a gg. Cause his up for the elder and non would try to attempt a steal. Sadly he threw it cause it’s late game and those champs have to carry it. You fuck up well you fuck up, but at least try to own it when you try to carry it, no half ass shit.
Agreed I thought Neace was being harsh... just a touch unprofessional. League is a game where the correct decision changes second to second, and you can't expect 100% immediate adherence. The poor guy was not trolling or intentionally ignoring Neace (like many others do on the channel), he was trying his best.
He's very nice compared to my old baseball coach. Yet he was my favorite coach when I was a kid. Was straight up and honest, and I know he only got mad cause he wanted us to be the best we could be. Huge respect for passion in the coaching role.
@@dijonvon4378 100% there was no need to lose it at him over that... if the team was better he wouldn't have had to carry and it be such a losing matter when he slipped up.
Neace bro, love your content and all that, but I do think you need to start thinking of this kind of tilt as a flaw in your coaching style. Getting mad is one thing, but you're not here to make them win THIS game, you're here to point out their flaws so they can learn from them. Yelling is fine, motivational even, but telling students you hate watching their game and making them feel shitty about it will make them MORE nervous and LESS likely to commit. It looked to me like he didn't know he wasn't challenging. He went up and started trying to find the perfect angle of attack. This needs to be explained to him with X's and O's, which is in my opinion what you're best at.
Yah, it’s entertaining for the audience but it isn’t a very productive move. Sometimes I feel like the yelling isn’t warranted at all unless its someone with a huge ego who thinks they know better.
@@ArcticWolfOfficial ye especially in this vid the guy wasnt ignoring the things he said on purpose, he just paniced at a yi running at him. Neace got too into the outcome of that game just because it dragged on so long
poor guy, I think he played very well. unfortunate that he had to get yelled at right at the end, when he probably would have lost no matter what he did
I learn a lot from Neace but this is probably a good example of him at his worst. This guys content is great when it’s A) knocking overblown egos down a peg or B) tuning up already good players. When he gets someone who is learning or slower or simply less skilled but clearly doing his best, it really ends up being less good instruction and more abrasive, borderline insulting. Would not pay anyone money for this sort of experience.
If you're gonna coach someone, teach. That's why they hire you, because they don't know. If you just tell them what to do with no reasoning whatsoever, people will never learn. Your job is to break their bad habits so they learn, not yell at them because you don't like what they're doing.
Actualy i learned alot just from listening to what he is saying. Just use your brain for a moment and try to understand the reasoning. Even more, he always makes coments on why he is telling you to do that
You don't need to know reasoning , that's an absurd position If you are playing football and I throw you the ball and you keep trying to catch it while only using 2 fingers and I tell you to use all your fingers you will improve at catching a football with zero explanation other than "use your whole hand and all of your fingers " Implementing proper form technique strategy doesn't necessitate understanding of the person directing you has that understanding and directs you accordingly
@@ganeacornel2574 In fairness - the guy is playing LoL - his brain is (or should) already be heavily engaged. You don't really have time to think and extrapolate what hidden message someone is trying to give you when you're already trying to think and plan for a dozen other things. At the same time, Neace hasn't got the time to sit and explain why he's giving an instruction because the time it takes to explain the instruction, the game has changed enough to require a new one... I'm assuming that's why they have the post-match reviews as well to go over the decision making, and why that's the optimal choice.
I understand being flamed by a teammate, but if I was this guy I'd want a refund. Imagine this irl, you hire a math teacher, you are trying your best but you fail at one last exercise and you get yelled at. No chance I rehire that teacher ever again. It's just unprofessional.
Neace really only asks that a client listens to him. It wasn't that the guy failed it was that he literally didn't follow directions when he was instructed-- keyword WHEN.
Neace and all of the viewers are forgetting what it's like to be extremely nervous and tense in a situation like this, where your nerves are already bad because you're mentally learning to react and make the right moves in an instant. You don't gain that ability right or, or from someone telling you what to do. It takes practice and when you're this nervous and then you're being trained by a pro who's insulting you, you now have the pressure of the game, the pressure of learning, the pressure of being yelled at and insulted, etc stacking up on top of you. In a situation like this, you're not going to follow instructions, because as badly as you want to, your nerves are all over the place and brain signals misfire and it causes confusion, panic and accidentally hitting wrong buttons. This was a young guy, probably a teenager that he was teaching, which makes it even more understandable that the kid was too nervous to perform perfectly the first time around.
This coach needs to calm his tits. He is hired to point out flaws to his client then the client can improve his the flaws they make. what this coach does is telling the client what to do to win the game. flash here, press b, commit, bla bla. He needs to stay calm and understand that his clients can't do everything precisely what he says all the time that's why they hired him in the first place. honestly very very very unprofessional to scream and get angry at a client. I don't understand how this dude gets hit client honestly if I would hire someone and he would yell at me or be unfriendly i'd stop the coaching session right there and then.
yeah, this is just backseating, actual coach sessions are vod reviews looking for ways to improve, not just doing what he tells you to do, is so fucking cringe
@@googleanti-speech7618 the guy was busting balls a little, calm down. If Neace was a friend of mine and said he was "thinking what to build" while furiously typing on his other monitor I would 100% give him a hard time. "Oh, *thinking* that hard huh?". Not saying he's a fraud or terrible evil guy but he clearly was doing more typing that "thinking"
Its own channel is probably safest. Side note, should definitely use community posts more. Like for that announcement about the shorts idea, make a community post for it, and you could even have the poll on the post itself rather than linking to strawpoll. Only issue with community post polls is that people who may not click the videos may see it an respond to it (which is more engagement for you so its not all bad)
Shorts channel sounds dope. The small clips at the beginning of the videos are exciting. A separate channel seems like a good way to keep them from getting drowned out by other content or to keep the content separate for people who want one version over the other.
Was thinking about this and shorts stay separate from full videos on the same channel anyway, so keeping it the same channel means I see a short, click on the channel, and can see the full length videos without needing another search, good advertisement
Im so glad that i started watching these videos more lately. Its really helped me understand how to manage waves, time my backs and just make better decisions in general
yes dont mix up the long coaching format with the shorts. put them in a seperate channel and add them as a playlist in your main and secondary channels.
Its like going to school, teacher tells you all anwsers for the test and you ignore him. Anyone can loose patience, when you tell them what should they do and they dont do it, even though you are right.
Idk why anyone would pay 125+ an hour just to get yelled at. It's kind of remarkable you are able to do that and people still line up to pay you. So props on that lol.
It s not remarkable, people turn their back to get a ck in their ass everywhere. There are dominant and submissive people. Neace gets to coach these submissive people. Even more when you have to pay this much to learn a game you re probably at the bottom of this submissive type of personnality. I guess it s remarkable you could manage to yell at someone buying your bread at incredible rates and disrespecting without them cursing you. But it s what these people like, being threated like shit while they deserve the upmost respect. Maybe neace should try to get coached in management and social behaviors so he could actually works like a normal human being. Yay there is no justification for anyone to yell or diminish another being ever. As he said, you fight like a man or flash away. At no point in between you yell or disrespect. You eat or be eaten. Yelling is the proper monkey way to taunt and trigger. So how could you do this to the people that loves you and financialy support you the most. Fcn morron world Try and make this man understand this. Societies can only thrive through tolerance and empathy. Otherwise were doomed and will die like everything that was once born on earth. Thanks god Elon Musk is managing something
Read the clients tone of voice man! Poor dude sounded like he was going to cry by the end. Once he apologised there was no need to continue going off on him.
It would be cool to have shorts that give snapshots of tips. Also shorts that are a montage of you screaming at clients would be sick. And league memery that happens while coaching, like play fails would be hilarious to watch!
Shorts are a beast of it's own. Right now they're the meta and it can really push your channel to get more subs and views, but personally i think you should make a separate channel for them. People who watch shorts are less likely to watch long videos and the other way around. I think that by creating a new channel dedicated to shorts only it's going to be better to expand and strenghten your brand, and funnel people to the coaching service.
@@Oscar-bj9ut Well shorts on youtube are quite new, so it's hard to state that there's evidence to it, but shorts are that kind of content where people mindlessly scroll through without much care, the people who watch 20/30+ minutes videos usually have more "commitment" and the content that's gonna be used for the shorts is the same in the long videos, in Neace's case anyway. I also noticed that youtube tends to push more the "shorts only" kind of channles rather than those who upload both shorts and long videos, probably because youtube wants to compete in that field with tik tok or w/e. A lot of creators are taking that route where they have a main channel that they keep "clean" with long videos, and a "short only" channel. It's also a nightmare when you're looking for a video of which you don't remember the title, so you go to the channel videos list and it's floaded with shorts and long videos mixed together xD
@@AndryuITA I guess my point is that people can like both mindlessly scrolling and long-form content. I agree that it can be a pain when looking for videos though.
@@Oscar-bj9ut there’s evidence to suggest that people’s attention spans are getting shorter and shorter. People want to waste less time and don’t find it enjoyable to commit to longer engagements. It’s one of the big reasons why TikTok is such a big craze right now (and has been for like 3 years). It’s also why you see every company rushing to implement some sort of “shorts” feature like TH-cam does. Even Instagram has it with Reels (which I think is silly since Stories exist for a reason).
I love the shorts idea! One idea is that it'd be a good way to make playlists or something of things like when you cover position or dodging skillshots in practice tool with diagrams, could group those videos for people trying to get more info!
I used to really enjoying Neace's coaching sessions, but I just can't handle him anymore. He transitions from being completely calm to cussing this poor guy out in no more than 1 second. At this point he's either just doing it for the views or simply can't control his own mental--all while charging his students $250 for a coaching session. Neace needs to try to learn something complex, that he's not good at, from somebody he looks up to, while being under immense pressure, all while trying to fight against ingrained mechanical habits. It's almost like Neace thinks his students deliberately ignore his instructions.
This is why Chill Neace exists, I suppose. If you don't have the same mindset it simply takes time to process information, no matter how easily it might be spelled out for you. As a coach you should not get frustrated like that. I couldn't get coached like that either. Accept your students mistakes and teach 'em afterwards, like you usually do. Stay more calm in the moment. That's my suggestion, anyways. Just because these exchanges are the exact reason I couldn't see myself pay money to get coached from ya.
i disagree. The coaches i have learned the most from and have the best relationship with are those that have told me ice cold that i need to pull my self together and do as they say / to listen up
it’s an hour in and wasn’t bad at the game but client lost his own game and if your mental can’t take a coaching session don’t get one from one of the toughest coaches out there easy to say “stay calm more in the moment” after it happens 🤷🏽♂️hindsight is always 2020
I agree and the result of those games shouldn't be important, why does he care if they lose or not the important thing is that they learn something. I guess he thinks about his reputation as a coach so they have to win to prove a point
Imagine getting paid 300 a session to coach a video game. You are still going to get paid by the end even if they don't listen or get anything from it and you still can't keep calm. That's wild to me.
For the shorts I think it’s be really smart to do things like, how to win teemo vs chogath or whatever champs. There’s a lot of individual things about the champion and matchup you can fit while still keeping the content easily digestible
Genuinely the one thing that stops me from hiring my favorite coach to help correct my mistakes is that I don’t think I could handle being yelled at. I fear that it would make me hate him and maybe even hate the game. I like League and Neace too much to risk a bad experience 💔💔
@@MSofDM almost like they were trying to reason whether or not their decision not to buy his coaching was justified and I agreed with them. Go ahead, say something else stupid.
I kid you not I just played my first promo game with this client (Short but Hung) and he placed 10th in the whole game and had 500 AP at like 30 minutes. We lost.
go in and drop the cage without giving your enemy the time to think. This isn't high elo so ppl won't react as fast as top players do and veigar just one shots with the combo. It would have maybe even left him alive and at near full hp
bit over the top reaction at the end. feel bad for him that he got outbursted at although he really seemed to try hard. i like the calm and collected neace over the yeller, but idk. wouldnt pay for someone to scream at me tbh, but thats just me
Yeah, I agree. Clients who are actually trying don't really deserve to be screamed at. I understand the frustration, and I don't mind this reaction when a client is being completely cocky or argumentative. I've definitely enjoyed watching Neace humble some of those players. In this case, though, it just felt like a bit much. If the client was fine, maybe it isn't a big deal, but it doesn't seem like there's much coaching value in that moment either.
@@LeagueofLegendsCoaching i have no doubt you treat clients well overall. just feels like you are stressed out sometimes in these coachings. hope everything is well brother. wishing you only the best❤️
I've seen worse. I was expecting something much more hardcore. I'm disappointed that I didn't see a more entertaining rage but I'm proud of you for the clear restraint you showed. lol
if he was restraining himself thats sad. unnecessary cruelty is an unfortunate thing. not something to make a habbit or pattern. the guys response at the end was that of someone who was controlled and polite. be like him.
@@npetersen76 It shows that Neace cares enough to be upset when clients don't listen to the advice they paid a good chunk of money for. I wouldn't say thats unnecessarily cruel. Whether he was restraining himself is debatable. Also anyone that watches Neace knows that he yells when people don't listen. Guy knew what he signed up for.
To be honest, I dont think veigar deserved that huge rage, given his rank. Yea he could of played it better. But it wasn't a tremendous mistake or anything like that.
Seems like he learned a lot at the end, just being guided on positioning constantly as a control mage. How to position, looking at map, don't frontline, save Zhonyas. Because like Neace says: You HAVE to stay alive and you HAVE to keep calm.
Normally I love these videos but I've seen him hold it in while coaching MUCH more arrogant ego filled clients. This poor guy didn't deserve that, terrible session honestly, I would assume he was just having a bad day but that still isn't an excuse.
You think that him yelling at people only happens when they are arrogant when in reality he yells at ANYONE who doesn't do what he tells them to do, bc they are literally PAYING him to do exactly that and he gets mad when people are wasting their money like this. Nice people or not, its frustrating when you are being paid to service someone that doesn't want to be helped.
@@ragtagsnipse1399 Neace caring about others money? It’s ironic that he charges out the ass for his service. The reality is he was clearly having a bad day and decided to take it out on his client. Like the post said, I’ve seen him with much much worse clients, and he held it the entire time.
@@Chadchadersonthe3rd yea, that’s just completely false lol he charges more money because he already gets tons of clients for his great results. If he made it cheaper he would be booked into the next 2 years. If you hire a nutritionist and you continue to eat garbage every day, why are you paying for them? That’s frustrating for people involved and looking at it from the outside. Your mind only sees the fact that he makes money from this, and not the goal Neace has in mind and has spoken about with other creators, which is to give back to the league community he grew from.
have you not watched his other videos? these fuckin people pay him money, and take a slot out of his schedule he could be teaching someone THAT REALLY WANTS TO LEARN AND WILL APPLY IT, and these people waste his damn time totally ignoring EVERY word he says, or arguing with him, literally saying NEACE (THE PERSON THEY JUST PAID TO COACH THEM) is wrong.... the guy in this specific video didn't do any of these things but i'm absolutely 100% positive all of the idiots take a toll on Neace's mental just like trolls in games take a toll on non-coaches mental, it's just the same shit over and over and over again they pay him for a coaching then ignore him and do w.e they want... i don't ever feel bad for them if they need to be yelled at to pull their head out of their ass then that's what he does, coddling someone that needs a slap in the face doesn't accomplish shit and CERTAINLY does NOT help them.
@@zeening dude being coached is not something that happens in the first session. all the vids he posts are of people's first sessions with him, they have ingrained ways of playing, the same way they've been playing since they started playing the game, you don't take a 180 and play completely differently on your first coaching you have to work your way out of habits over time
@@niox1920 you..... think the majority of his clients are booking MULTIPLE $250 sessions? yeah... no. bootcamp is like $50 but his coachings are $200-250 EACH.
Chill NEACE vs. Rage NEACE?!?....to the DEATH! I prefer Rage NEACE! The "carry your weight" mentality, just brings me back to better and not so SOFT times. Love it. 😎👍🏼
I think that you should include what champions are played in the video and what role somwhere in the description, so that it is possible to search your content! I spend hours looking for videos manually in your channels.
From what I heard about shorts you should probably post 2-3 a day and the users who interact with shorts don't interact with the longer content. IMO shorts should probably go on a new channel to not spam the feed of the people who come for longer content
If your cat mains a second desk you missed the shoulder poke meta, I feel that's the most crucial cat meta. I get ganked by it constantly and I'm thinking of rage quitting his life. 😂
Tbf I'd be scared of the yi running at me when the rest of their team were up moments after... Reaction at the end a little overblown and tbh comes across like a bit of a dick move... The guy was trying but clearly we're not all challengers... lacking the confidence to execute a 1v2/3 is totally normal but just because it's such a long game Neace loses his head. Typical adage in football... Some players need a kick and some need an arm round their shoulder... This guy clearly didn't need a kick.
poor guy, I would be regretting hiring nease as my coach in that moment, dude has some serious anger issues. League Isn't Life. Calm da fk down, chill out
I'm all for you being honest, straightforward, feeling your emotions, and a channel with shorts. Absolutely loved your response to hate from Twitter and the top analyst. You don't make anyone buy your coaching.
I don't think yelling at the client at the end there was productive or justified at all. It doesn't seem obvious to me the client was intentionally ignoring your advice. It was either a lack of confidence or stress getting to him. Atleast that is what it looked like to me. Would have been more productive I think the first time it occurred to address it calmly tell him not to stress out about it and to have confidence you are telling him the right play, and even if he fucks it up to not worry. Just focus on trying to pull of what you're told to. If it still happens again don't freak out sure yell , but don't let it get to you. Once the plays dead and he fucks up by not listening again you switch back to calm mode. Point out to him one of his flaws is that he doesn't have the confidence to pull off gritty plays where he's got to put himself in danger and duke it out. Probably why he is on veigar. Lots of mages and other ranged players have this issue. Its a bad habit they develop and aren't definitively punished for because it is much harder to identify the plays that you don't do but would win you the game if you had just put yourself in a more dangerous and ballsy position. Which is where I think you are in a unique position to point out and help them break this habit. Its will take time for most though. I think you let it get to you too much. Itd be one thing if he was clearly just ignoring you with intent to do so, but it seems more likely to me the guy just choked. He also seems to be cripplingly timid in both his ability to follow your instructions, but also personally as he kind of just wilted and accepted your anger without really trying to speak up so you could understand whether or not he intentionally ignored your instructions. He needs to work on that. I know because I used to be the same way, and learned that you need to speak up in these kinds of situations. Make it clear if you were just stressed out and choking and not intentionally ignoring neace. It would save both parties some grief. Both parties got something to work on.
This guy did not deserve that at the end...I feel like that was a bunch of pent up anger from so many cumulative clients not being able to listen and respond the way he wants them to, but this client literally just tried to position for .3 sec instead of running straight and got BLASTED by Neace. Client tried his best all game, panicked and misplayed yes but those are less deserving of rage than someone with an inflated ego no? People who have the wrong attitude or ego deserve some stern no bullshit talk but someone like this...his misplays were extremely costly but still did not warrant such a response. Also Neace was clearly not in his usual mood from the start...seemed to be annoyed the entire time, very quiet.
Agreed, Neace blasting him at the end feels so weird, this guy just concentrated for 50+ min and he proceeds to make 2 mistakes (probably because of having a 50 min game on his shoulders) and then gets screamed at. Isn't the point of coaching to get better at the game? Sure he didn't clutch out a win but the point should be for the student to learn and improve not for Neace to be able to flex his students winning all their games. I can understand the reaction if the student had talked back or argued but he very obviously just choked under pressure.
I disagree. The guy paid for coaching and like Neace said if a client doesn't listen to what you're telling them why coach? It's not a must that the client wins off of the coaching game, but the client blatantly ignored what Neace told him to do. If you don't want to be told what to do, don't buy coaching. Just do your own thing and stay hardstuck for eternity.
@@SiDrift the thing with Yi was blatantly ignoring, whether that was bc the client just hard panicked or didn’t understand what Neace was telling him to do. But at the end, like someone else had mentioned I think he was trying to do exactly what Neace said, to “challenge” them. He came out of base immediately and ran at them, but he wiggled. To the client, he IS doing what he’s told, atleast trying to. To only run straight and not try to position at all is a lesson, but Neace literally just told him to challenge them and then exploded when the client tried to. It’s so disappointing to watch.
Hey Neace, i'm still learning the game and a shorts channel i'd tune into on the daily would be like 20-30 second clips explaining a champions kit/ult so when i'm going into matches I don't feel blind. For example like "Lol Yone skills" and just having a quick explanation would be extremely helpful.
you need to care more about how the player on the other side of the coaching feels when you yell them out over something that they might just be mechanicly blocked from even doing in the time you would maybe do it.
been watching chill Neace a lot since I saw you advertise it. May I ask for just Angy Neace. Where everything you do in the game has to be 100% aggressive. Even if shits going good you gotta go batshit angry. Your health may be on the line and blood pressure may rise. But it would make for premo content.
So much bad advice in this video. Not trying to flame, but some of the things you were saying just made no sense. You literally told him "Press bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb" 1000x repeated, while his team is fighting a 2v2 with inhib at like 200 hp. The enemy team wasn't even respawning for another full 60 seconds and they easily could have gotten the inhib and maybe even ended. 55:55 53 minutes into the game. Both their main carrys yi and yone were dead. Leaving ezreal with 40 percent and zilean about to die as he wasted ult on himself running away and GP just respawned, but even he gets chunked they are all sub 40 percent. They could have easily fought the 3v3 and bare minimum got the inhib in the scuffle. Brand even ends up killing the zilean. Instead you had him back in his team's face, they both die, and they get no inhib. Then you turn around and have him fight the same 2 people he could have in the 3v3 with his team at their base in an ending position? Like wtf kinda call was that. Then you turn around and flame him when he loses at the end? I liked some of your other video's, but you just flat out shit the bed on this and then blamed him for it. He made mistakes in the end on things you were telling him, but he should have already won by then.
treat a shorts channel like a way to advertise the neace brand. It's going to work because the people who wanna watch the full lesson are going to come straight to this channel and the main channel. You can also launch some shorts for chill neace to give it more traction. However use footage from vids, don't look directly into making shorts.
i would personaly love to have the shorts from the content that this channel is putting out and having somthing that reddirect us to the full video if there is one
I know he is a coach, but screaming and swearing at your client isn’t helping that much. Everyone does wrong and a lot of wrong shit in league. I’m not an expert or something, but I wouldn’t like to sit down with a screaming person.
Dude i love how neace is just straight up, no like rigamaroll bull shit, just honest questions and suggestions. It is very refreshing to find a youtuber like this. Keep up the good work and i look forward to more content. And yes i think it should be a separate channel so i can binge like 20 of them after these educationally long videos.
I understand both sides all too well. To this day, I don't understand why it seems that my brain and fingers sometimes do what they want, only when i face real opponents. Especially in LOL it can happen that I overthink situations and the stress let's me do the weirdest things. Since I did play other competitive games for years, I know that you only overcome this with A LOT of practice. I feel with both, but as a coach I thought this happening is common knowledge. From my personal experience people that are very empathic struggle with this a lot. I feel with the guy who spend a lot of money to get frustrated at the end.
I don't think this guy's a good coach at all. I don't think anyone actually learn anything from his coaching, and every time I've seen his videos his students lose and look lost.
I don't think microing someone's champ is the best way to coach. First, stress like that prevents ideal motor function. The brain literally stops communicating under stress. They've done studies on it. Second, it prevents you from seeing weaknesses on the student. This guy was obviously learning, and his mechanics were incredibly sluggish, even on a relatively simple champion. Rather than essentially telling him where to click you should absolutely give him the macro and then debrief the mechanical misplays. That last Yi fight for example, it's impossible to know how he would've played it out on his own, that to me is a big issue that a coach needs to know in order to give him the best advice. And you denied the opportunity.
Ngl I love Neace but this seemed out of line- I’m not going to pay 250+ to some dude, and get talked to me like that. It’s very hard in one game to reverse years of muscle mem and reactions, just because someone in your ear says to hit a button when your stressed and prob panicking.
Imagine paying someone that much money and still losing while getting yelled at and even feeling the need to apologize xD Neace is fucking great! XDXDXD
Ngl, bit of a clickbait title there. It didn't really seem like the guy had an ego problem and was choosing to ignore you. Seemed a lot more like he just hesitated when you said to go all-in against three of the enemies. Yeah, he needs to work on that hesitation and confidence. But outright ignoring you or ego tripping? Nah, that wasn't it man.
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Neace would lose his mind if I ever hired him for a coach. I make so many bad plays he might have no voice by the end of the coaching session.
I really don’t think he’s as much of a hardass as y’all think
It’s not about making bad plays or not, it’s moreso about listening to him and taking directions
weird flex but ok =p
He would just learn u the fundamentals and build from that but the problem with this guy was that he can do but he just doesnt do it. He knows what to do and gets told what to do but hesitates. I do feel bad for him at the end tho
its not bad plays that tilt people in league its 0 confidence in everything that tilts people.
If you will listen to him, he wont yell at you. Even if you do worst plays in the world.
lol this one just made me feel bad for the kid. His "sure..." at the end was heartbreaking haha
idk to me it sounded like he was trying to hold in his laugh xD
Neace is a good LoL Player and knows his stuff.
But mentally he has some serious Isues!! Thats not the way a good Teacher is acting!
He behaves like a liitle Kid not a grown Man.
The People who hire him arent perfect thats the hole Reason they ask for coaching.
Dont expect them to play like the Teacher.
And why exactly is he mad? Did he only get payed for a win? I think not!
So whats the Point?
@@theDr83 the point is if u hire a coach u gotta listen to him 100% of time cos thats why he's there
@@highwave1105 No its not! You are the Client you pay, you are the Boss.
Its your Time your Money and youre pleasure and youre the one who chooses!
Of Course you should listen but you dont must do it.
And if youre dont listen then why he got mad about it as a Coach? As a coach you dont lose anything.
It is a mental Issue. He needs to work on it for sure thats not a Healthy behavior!!!!
And definetly not one for a Teacher Coach or a Parent!
@@xMarpx yeah could be true do XD
At the end its just silly :OP.
People should choose to get coached by Neace just to trigger him! That would be funny
Honestly the guy didn't deserve the attitude. A full hour trying to retake a game that was lost from min 15, carrying out almost every instruction to the best of his ability (despite some of the instructions would appear to me as pretty unclear/ambiguous or simply can't understand the reasoning behind it to extrapolate into a continuous play), while simultaneously adding a bunch of new concepts to your gameplay that you don't usually do (and definitely take some serious conscious effort to perform accurately). The veigar was champ, I don't give a fuck how entitled you feel about your "teaching", it deserves an apology. The guy hesitated for a second and gets shit for it, completely uncalled for.
Agreed
neace is a douchebag in general. don't know why people choose to book a session with him specifically when there's plenty of other coaches out there who won't treat you like a piece of shit for making a bad play lmao
Man, Neace I know you tilted but damn the poor lad just tried his hardest not to die.
Was honestly just thinking I felt bad for the guy. Neace says he needs a drink of water and the guys, "sure" sounds like a son who just disappointed his dad and is at risk of being disowned from the family lol.
But, Neace tells it like it is. No coddling. He gets paid for a reason!
Actually he did pretty good. Never seen a Veigar get that many kills 😂
He just fucked up right at the end. Like when everything is going just as planned and you're at your best and when you need it the most, the worst thing that could happen actually happens when you less expect it
I hope Neace had apologized after that, he lost it xD
Yeah but his a late game vei with ALOT of fire power. He pretty much one taps everyone that he hits a w q combo on. If he took the yi out like neace said it’s a gg. Cause his up for the elder and non would try to attempt a steal. Sadly he threw it cause it’s late game and those champs have to carry it. You fuck up well you fuck up, but at least try to own it when you try to carry it, no half ass shit.
Agreed I thought Neace was being harsh... just a touch unprofessional. League is a game where the correct decision changes second to second, and you can't expect 100% immediate adherence. The poor guy was not trolling or intentionally ignoring Neace (like many others do on the channel), he was trying his best.
he doesnt know how to cage
and he could just go on the border on his cages to stun yi when he jumps
Neace is a "professional" coach.. he should conduct himself accordingly or take a break..
He's very nice compared to my old baseball coach. Yet he was my favorite coach when I was a kid. Was straight up and honest, and I know he only got mad cause he wanted us to be the best we could be. Huge respect for passion in the coaching role.
@gotchagamingl.1563 that.. makes no sense. youre a spud.
imagine paying 250 bucks to get flamed when you could just keep playing solo queue and getting flamed for free
I would rather be flamed by someone with more wisdom than me than be flamed by an idiot. 👍🏻
@@Jadedkittenx for 250 tho xd
broo when he said "sorry about that" i felt so bad for him
I would have been asking for a refund and/or apology. Neace needs to get his anger/ego in check.
@@dijonvon4378 100% there was no need to lose it at him over that... if the team was better he wouldn't have had to carry and it be such a losing matter when he slipped up.
@@Naigus
I am hoping that this is mostly for content, and Neace sends them an apology/explanation email afterwards haha.
Neace bro, love your content and all that, but I do think you need to start thinking of this kind of tilt as a flaw in your coaching style. Getting mad is one thing, but you're not here to make them win THIS game, you're here to point out their flaws so they can learn from them. Yelling is fine, motivational even, but telling students you hate watching their game and making them feel shitty about it will make them MORE nervous and LESS likely to commit.
It looked to me like he didn't know he wasn't challenging. He went up and started trying to find the perfect angle of attack. This needs to be explained to him with X's and O's, which is in my opinion what you're best at.
right, if it were me I would have been like 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺😭🏳
@@TheUniverseKiss lets hope he isnt that toxic towards women lol
agreed
Yah, it’s entertaining for the audience but it isn’t a very productive move. Sometimes I feel like the yelling isn’t warranted at all unless its someone with a huge ego who thinks they know better.
@@ArcticWolfOfficial ye especially in this vid the guy wasnt ignoring the things he said on purpose, he just paniced at a yi running at him. Neace got too into the outcome of that game just because it dragged on so long
Student: I will pay you to help me get better.
Teacher: Okay. OMG, you suck.
Student: I'm sorry?
poor guy, I think he played very well. unfortunate that he had to get yelled at right at the end, when he probably would have lost no matter what he did
a plat yelling at a silver
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I learn a lot from Neace but this is probably a good example of him at his worst. This guys content is great when it’s A) knocking overblown egos down a peg or B) tuning up already good players. When he gets someone who is learning or slower or simply less skilled but clearly doing his best, it really ends up being less good instruction and more abrasive, borderline insulting. Would not pay anyone money for this sort of experience.
true
Classic lol player isn’t it
If you're gonna coach someone, teach. That's why they hire you, because they don't know. If you just tell them what to do with no reasoning whatsoever, people will never learn. Your job is to break their bad habits so they learn, not yell at them because you don't like what they're doing.
Actualy i learned alot just from listening to what he is saying. Just use your brain for a moment and try to understand the reasoning. Even more, he always makes coments on why he is telling you to do that
He talks down to his clients like he's an abusive dad
You don't need to know reasoning , that's an absurd position
If you are playing football and I throw you the ball and you keep trying to catch it while only using 2 fingers and I tell you to use all your fingers you will improve at catching a football with zero explanation other than "use your whole hand and all of your fingers "
Implementing proper form technique strategy doesn't necessitate understanding of the person directing you has that understanding and directs you accordingly
@@ganeacornel2574 In fairness - the guy is playing LoL - his brain is (or should) already be heavily engaged. You don't really have time to think and extrapolate what hidden message someone is trying to give you when you're already trying to think and plan for a dozen other things.
At the same time, Neace hasn't got the time to sit and explain why he's giving an instruction because the time it takes to explain the instruction, the game has changed enough to require a new one... I'm assuming that's why they have the post-match reviews as well to go over the decision making, and why that's the optimal choice.
I want a neace rage compilation
Yeeesssssssssss
I got here looking for one lel
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I understand being flamed by a teammate, but if I was this guy I'd want a refund. Imagine this irl, you hire a math teacher, you are trying your best but you fail at one last exercise and you get yelled at. No chance I rehire that teacher ever again. It's just unprofessional.
Neace really only asks that a client listens to him. It wasn't that the guy failed it was that he literally didn't follow directions when he was instructed-- keyword WHEN.
@@eveemcghee4454 i think he didnt understand that he wanted him to fight him, he was hesitating
Neace and all of the viewers are forgetting what it's like to be extremely nervous and tense in a situation like this, where your nerves are already bad because you're mentally learning to react and make the right moves in an instant. You don't gain that ability right or, or from someone telling you what to do. It takes practice and when you're this nervous and then you're being trained by a pro who's insulting you, you now have the pressure of the game, the pressure of learning, the pressure of being yelled at and insulted, etc stacking up on top of you. In a situation like this, you're not going to follow instructions, because as badly as you want to, your nerves are all over the place and brain signals misfire and it causes confusion, panic and accidentally hitting wrong buttons. This was a young guy, probably a teenager that he was teaching, which makes it even more understandable that the kid was too nervous to perform perfectly the first time around.
This coach needs to calm his tits. He is hired to point out flaws to his client then the client can improve his the flaws they make. what this coach does is telling the client what to do to win the game. flash here, press b, commit, bla bla. He needs to stay calm and understand that his clients can't do everything precisely what he says all the time that's why they hired him in the first place. honestly very very very unprofessional to scream and get angry at a client. I don't understand how this dude gets hit client honestly if I would hire someone and he would yell at me or be unfriendly i'd stop the coaching session right there and then.
yeah, this is just backseating, actual coach sessions are vod reviews looking for ways to improve, not just doing what he tells you to do, is so fucking cringe
I love how neece says give me a second to think about what runes i want you to get, all while googling builds haha
That is the best way to figure out what runes to get though haha
fr lol
number bro... he was looking for what works, looking the statistics
Yes imagine using numbers and math to your benefit in a video game of math and numbers. Holy shit its like mind blowing
@@googleanti-speech7618 the guy was busting balls a little, calm down. If Neace was a friend of mine and said he was "thinking what to build" while furiously typing on his other monitor I would 100% give him a hard time. "Oh, *thinking* that hard huh?".
Not saying he's a fraud or terrible evil guy but he clearly was doing more typing that "thinking"
lol i am always scared when neace starts yelling
A teacher that gets mad at his students, shouldn't be teaching.
Its own channel is probably safest. Side note, should definitely use community posts more. Like for that announcement about the shorts idea, make a community post for it, and you could even have the poll on the post itself rather than linking to strawpoll. Only issue with community post polls is that people who may not click the videos may see it an respond to it (which is more engagement for you so its not all bad)
Chill Neace is actually a pretty good channel ngl, watched it last night, pretty dope
Shorts channel sounds dope. The small clips at the beginning of the videos are exciting. A separate channel seems like a good way to keep them from getting drowned out by other content or to keep the content separate for people who want one version over the other.
Was thinking about this and shorts stay separate from full videos on the same channel anyway, so keeping it the same channel means I see a short, click on the channel, and can see the full length videos without needing another search, good advertisement
Im so glad that i started watching these videos more lately. Its really helped me understand how to manage waves, time my backs and just make better decisions in general
But please dont buy this useless coachings for 300$
yes dont mix up the long coaching format with the shorts. put them in a seperate channel and add them as a playlist in your main and secondary channels.
+ 1 to this cultured gentleman's opinion
Or just don't do shorts at all, and instead actually be cultured.
@@adameves5970 the issue is shorts is a big meta and can give a big boost in views thus attracting more customers later on. why waste the potential.
THIS
@@Lou-C Dunno if it's an attempt to show me some kind of mistake. I'm just chilling here.
More of this please, seeing other people yelled at because they're bad at a video game is what I live for.
Its like going to school, teacher tells you all anwsers for the test and you ignore him. Anyone can loose patience, when you tell them what should they do and they dont do it, even though you are right.
I am not a fan of Neace but in this instance guy deserved what he got. He wasn't getting yelled at for being bad but for not fing listening.
@@randomstuff403 why aren’t u fan of neace
Sycho
Hilarious!
Idk why anyone would pay 125+ an hour just to get yelled at. It's kind of remarkable you are able to do that and people still line up to pay you. So props on that lol.
It s not remarkable, people turn their back to get a ck in their ass everywhere. There are dominant and submissive people. Neace gets to coach these submissive people. Even more when you have to pay this much to learn a game you re probably at the bottom of this submissive type of personnality. I guess it s remarkable you could manage to yell at someone buying your bread at incredible rates and disrespecting without them cursing you. But it s what these people like, being threated like shit while they deserve the upmost respect.
Maybe neace should try to get coached in management and social behaviors so he could actually works like a normal human being.
Yay there is no justification for anyone to yell or diminish another being ever. As he said, you fight like a man or flash away. At no point in between you yell or disrespect. You eat or be eaten. Yelling is the proper monkey way to taunt and trigger. So how could you do this to the people that loves you and financialy support you the most. Fcn morron world
Try and make this man understand this. Societies can only thrive through tolerance and empathy. Otherwise were doomed and will die like everything that was once born on earth. Thanks god Elon Musk is managing something
I understand neace is frustrated and all, but screaming at a client like that isn't okay.
bro you gotta chill. its not that serious. this guy paid you to help him. youre not the one playing why are you getting mad
His lil ego got tickled 🥶
Read the clients tone of voice man! Poor dude sounded like he was going to cry by the end. Once he apologised there was no need to continue going off on him.
It would be cool to have shorts that give snapshots of tips. Also shorts that are a montage of you screaming at clients would be sick. And league memery that happens while coaching, like play fails would be hilarious to watch!
Shorts are a beast of it's own. Right now they're the meta and it can really push your channel to get more subs and views, but personally i think you should make a separate channel for them. People who watch shorts are less likely to watch long videos and the other way around. I think that by creating a new channel dedicated to shorts only it's going to be better to expand and strenghten your brand, and funnel people to the coaching service.
Is there evidence of this? I feel like most people on YT are willing to see both types of content.
@@Oscar-bj9ut Well shorts on youtube are quite new, so it's hard to state that there's evidence to it, but shorts are that kind of content where people mindlessly scroll through without much care, the people who watch 20/30+ minutes videos usually have more "commitment" and the content that's gonna be used for the shorts is the same in the long videos, in Neace's case anyway.
I also noticed that youtube tends to push more the "shorts only" kind of channles rather than those who upload both shorts and long videos, probably because youtube wants to compete in that field with tik tok or w/e. A lot of creators are taking that route where they have a main channel that they keep "clean" with long videos, and a "short only" channel.
It's also a nightmare when you're looking for a video of which you don't remember the title, so you go to the channel videos list and it's floaded with shorts and long videos mixed together xD
@@AndryuITA I guess my point is that people can like both mindlessly scrolling and long-form content.
I agree that it can be a pain when looking for videos though.
@@Oscar-bj9ut there’s evidence to suggest that people’s attention spans are getting shorter and shorter. People want to waste less time and don’t find it enjoyable to commit to longer engagements.
It’s one of the big reasons why TikTok is such a big craze right now (and has been for like 3 years). It’s also why you see every company rushing to implement some sort of “shorts” feature like TH-cam does. Even Instagram has it with Reels (which I think is silly since Stories exist for a reason).
The content is already there, just need to clip the right parts.
As much as the cage was an incorrect call for the 1hp ezreal, it sure did provide some comedy gold.
Timestamp?
Timestamp?
I love the shorts idea! One idea is that it'd be a good way to make playlists or something of things like when you cover position or dodging skillshots in practice tool with diagrams, could group those videos for people trying to get more info!
When Neace yells at a client, I get flashbacks from my childhood
I used to really enjoying Neace's coaching sessions, but I just can't handle him anymore. He transitions from being completely calm to cussing this poor guy out in no more than 1 second. At this point he's either just doing it for the views or simply can't control his own mental--all while charging his students $250 for a coaching session. Neace needs to try to learn something complex, that he's not good at, from somebody he looks up to, while being under immense pressure, all while trying to fight against ingrained mechanical habits. It's almost like Neace thinks his students deliberately ignore his instructions.
Fully agree with you - He went 0-100 instantly. His instructions weren't even clear in that last play. He's also impatient and acts like an asshole.
yeah i don't care, just give me my daily dose of neace.
This is why Chill Neace exists, I suppose. If you don't have the same mindset it simply takes time to process information, no matter how easily it might be spelled out for you. As a coach you should not get frustrated like that. I couldn't get coached like that either. Accept your students mistakes and teach 'em afterwards, like you usually do. Stay more calm in the moment. That's my suggestion, anyways. Just because these exchanges are the exact reason I couldn't see myself pay money to get coached from ya.
i disagree. The coaches i have learned the most from and have the best relationship with are those that have told me ice cold that i need to pull my self together and do as they say / to listen up
it’s an hour in and wasn’t bad at the game but client lost his own game and if your mental can’t take a coaching session don’t get one from one of the toughest coaches out there easy to say “stay calm more in the moment” after it happens 🤷🏽♂️hindsight is always 2020
I agree and the result of those games shouldn't be important, why does he care if they lose or not the important thing is that they learn something. I guess he thinks about his reputation as a coach so they have to win to prove a point
Imagine getting paid 300 a session to coach a video game. You are still going to get paid by the end even if they don't listen or get anything from it and you still can't keep calm. That's wild to me.
37:30 could’ve completed his void staff
Can we get a Neace Rage compilation??!!! Would be an awesome video 😂😂
For the shorts I think it’s be really smart to do things like, how to win teemo vs chogath or whatever champs. There’s a lot of individual things about the champion and matchup you can fit while still keeping the content easily digestible
Genuinely the one thing that stops me from hiring my favorite coach to help correct my mistakes is that I don’t think I could handle being yelled at. I fear that it would make me hate him and maybe even hate the game. I like League and Neace too much to risk a bad experience 💔💔
Don’t buy his coaching then. Easy.
@@kfossa344 almost like that’s exactly what they said they are doing isn’t it
@@MSofDM almost like they were trying to reason whether or not their decision not to buy his coaching was justified and I agreed with them. Go ahead, say something else stupid.
@@kfossa344 lol yeah you seem like the kind of guy I expect to find in these types of comment sections
@@kfossa344 he already has made that decision but is looking for someone to change his mind not confirm what he already thinks
I kid you not I just played my first promo game with this client (Short but Hung) and he placed 10th in the whole game and had 500 AP at like 30 minutes. We lost.
💀💀💀
Imagine paying a lot of money to being trashtalked
what was the play there at the end? he went in after turning around for a quick second and did what was askes. what do you do in a 2v1 like that?
go in and drop the cage without giving your enemy the time to think. This isn't high elo so ppl won't react as fast as top players do and veigar just one shots with the combo. It would have maybe even left him alive and at near full hp
bit over the top reaction at the end. feel bad for him that he got outbursted at although he really seemed to try hard. i like the calm and collected neace over the yeller, but idk. wouldnt pay for someone to scream at me tbh, but thats just me
Don't worry, we went over the vod with him after I got some water.
Yeah, I agree. Clients who are actually trying don't really deserve to be screamed at. I understand the frustration, and I don't mind this reaction when a client is being completely cocky or argumentative. I've definitely enjoyed watching Neace humble some of those players. In this case, though, it just felt like a bit much. If the client was fine, maybe it isn't a big deal, but it doesn't seem like there's much coaching value in that moment either.
@@girthpapi 100% agree
@@LeagueofLegendsCoaching i have no doubt you treat clients well overall. just feels like you are stressed out sometimes in these coachings. hope everything is well brother. wishing you only the best❤️
I've seen worse. I was expecting something much more hardcore. I'm disappointed that I didn't see a more entertaining rage but I'm proud of you for the clear restraint you showed. lol
if he was restraining himself thats sad. unnecessary cruelty is an unfortunate thing. not something to make a habbit or pattern. the guys response at the end was that of someone who was controlled and polite. be like him.
@@npetersen76 It shows that Neace cares enough to be upset when clients don't listen to the advice they paid a good chunk of money for. I wouldn't say thats unnecessarily cruel. Whether he was restraining himself is debatable. Also anyone that watches Neace knows that he yells when people don't listen. Guy knew what he signed up for.
"I wanna see more rage" there are plenty of other TH-camrs that'll show you rage bro 😂
only the league community could call literally screaming at someone when they’re 18/8 clear restraint lmao ur crazy bro
To be honest, I dont think veigar deserved that huge rage, given his rank. Yea he could of played it better. But it wasn't a tremendous mistake or anything like that.
Neace is the perfect example of type of person that I loved beating the shit out of before. You can tell he hasn’t gotten fixed for a long time.
Be careful everyone, we got a real tough guy over here
@@levigeorge2141 lmao. That’s what you got out of the comment?
Ooooh boy
@@levigeorge2141
Beating up Neace doesn't make you tough at all XD
"thats a ward, I thought that was yi" killed me
Seems like he learned a lot at the end, just being guided on positioning constantly as a control mage. How to position, looking at map, don't frontline, save Zhonyas. Because like Neace says: You HAVE to stay alive and you HAVE to keep calm.
58:43 free rage button
Normally I love these videos but I've seen him hold it in while coaching MUCH more arrogant ego filled clients. This poor guy didn't deserve that, terrible session honestly, I would assume he was just having a bad day but that still isn't an excuse.
You think that him yelling at people only happens when they are arrogant when in reality he yells at ANYONE who doesn't do what he tells them to do, bc they are literally PAYING him to do exactly that and he gets mad when people are wasting their money like this. Nice people or not, its frustrating when you are being paid to service someone that doesn't want to be helped.
@@ragtagsnipse1399 Neace caring about others money? It’s ironic that he charges out the ass for his service. The reality is he was clearly having a bad day and decided to take it out on his client. Like the post said, I’ve seen him with much much worse clients, and he held it the entire time.
@@Chadchadersonthe3rd yea, that’s just completely false lol he charges more money because he already gets tons of clients for his great results. If he made it cheaper he would be booked into the next 2 years. If you hire a nutritionist and you continue to eat garbage every day, why are you paying for them? That’s frustrating for people involved and looking at it from the outside. Your mind only sees the fact that he makes money from this, and not the goal Neace has in mind and has spoken about with other creators, which is to give back to the league community he grew from.
@@ragtagsnipse1399 Nice recap of all the videos roasting him for charging so much. Legit almost every big content creator roasts him for the price.
i would love to see a whole game on Neace flaming someone into being a better player
bro pays 300 bucks for your diamond coaching who tf takes coaching of this man
Love Neace, but I genuinely feel bad for this guy. I wouldn’t be able to react to someone telling me what to do in game. He even apologized
Same man i do feel bad for him, when he said sorry :(
have you not watched his other videos? these fuckin people pay him money, and take a slot out of his schedule he could be teaching someone THAT REALLY WANTS TO LEARN AND WILL APPLY IT, and these people waste his damn time totally ignoring EVERY word he says, or arguing with him, literally saying NEACE (THE PERSON THEY JUST PAID TO COACH THEM) is wrong.... the guy in this specific video didn't do any of these things but i'm absolutely 100% positive all of the idiots take a toll on Neace's mental just like trolls in games take a toll on non-coaches mental, it's just the same shit over and over and over again they pay him for a coaching then ignore him and do w.e they want... i don't ever feel bad for them if they need to be yelled at to pull their head out of their ass then that's what he does, coddling someone that needs a slap in the face doesn't accomplish shit and CERTAINLY does NOT help them.
@@zeening imagine convincing yourself that you know what people are thinking from watching a recording of their gameplay, holy fucking shit lmao.
@@zeening dude being coached is not something that happens in the first session. all the vids he posts are of people's first sessions with him, they have ingrained ways of playing, the same way they've been playing since they started playing the game, you don't take a 180 and play completely differently on your first coaching you have to work your way out of habits over time
@@niox1920 you..... think the majority of his clients are booking MULTIPLE $250 sessions? yeah... no. bootcamp is like $50 but his coachings are $200-250 EACH.
What I really learned from these videos is that neece sets you up to win. You’re practically fed and there is no reason to be scared to fight anyone.
Chill NEACE vs. Rage NEACE?!?....to the DEATH!
I prefer Rage NEACE! The "carry your weight" mentality, just brings me back to better and not so SOFT times. Love it. 😎👍🏼
i prefer good coach neace since his clients are paying a lot of money for it. I dont want it to go to waste
I think that you should include what champions are played in the video and what role somwhere in the description, so that it is possible to search your content! I spend hours looking for videos manually in your channels.
Maybe [role, champion]. It's a very good idea
Jeez. Probably wouldn't buy coaching services if that happened to me.
From what I heard about shorts you should probably post 2-3 a day and the users who interact with shorts don't interact with the longer content. IMO shorts should probably go on a new channel to not spam the feed of the people who come for longer content
If your cat mains a second desk you missed the shoulder poke meta, I feel that's the most crucial cat meta. I get ganked by it constantly and I'm thinking of rage quitting his life. 😂
Tbf I'd be scared of the yi running at me when the rest of their team were up moments after... Reaction at the end a little overblown and tbh comes across like a bit of a dick move... The guy was trying but clearly we're not all challengers... lacking the confidence to execute a 1v2/3 is totally normal but just because it's such a long game Neace loses his head.
Typical adage in football... Some players need a kick and some need an arm round their shoulder... This guy clearly didn't need a kick.
bro, that just doesnt feel right to yell at people like that. they are there to learn not to know how shitty they are
Before I actually watch, just wanted to say I thought the kitten meow censoring was utterly hilarious
it might've been a yuumi extract xD
This guys had 50cs at 8mins and missed most of his q's, he stood no chance.
poor guy, I would be regretting hiring nease as my coach in that moment, dude has some serious anger issues. League Isn't Life. Calm da fk down, chill out
I'm all for you being honest, straightforward, feeling your emotions, and a channel with shorts. Absolutely loved your response to hate from Twitter and the top analyst. You don't make anyone buy your coaching.
True but I’d probably be asking for a refund after this lol
@@jfm.d5180why lol, the guy basically did very well until the last min .
I don't think yelling at the client at the end there was productive or justified at all. It doesn't seem obvious to me the client was intentionally ignoring your advice. It was either a lack of confidence or stress getting to him. Atleast that is what it looked like to me. Would have been more productive I think the first time it occurred to address it calmly tell him not to stress out about it and to have confidence you are telling him the right play, and even if he fucks it up to not worry. Just focus on trying to pull of what you're told to. If it still happens again don't freak out sure yell , but don't let it get to you. Once the plays dead and he fucks up by not listening again you switch back to calm mode. Point out to him one of his flaws is that he doesn't have the confidence to pull off gritty plays where he's got to put himself in danger and duke it out. Probably why he is on veigar. Lots of mages and other ranged players have this issue. Its a bad habit they develop and aren't definitively punished for because it is much harder to identify the plays that you don't do but would win you the game if you had just put yourself in a more dangerous and ballsy position. Which is where I think you are in a unique position to point out and help them break this habit. Its will take time for most though. I think you let it get to you too much. Itd be one thing if he was clearly just ignoring you with intent to do so, but it seems more likely to me the guy just choked. He also seems to be cripplingly timid in both his ability to follow your instructions, but also personally as he kind of just wilted and accepted your anger without really trying to speak up so you could understand whether or not he intentionally ignored your instructions. He needs to work on that. I know because I used to be the same way, and learned that you need to speak up in these kinds of situations. Make it clear if you were just stressed out and choking and not intentionally ignoring neace. It would save both parties some grief. Both parties got something to work on.
This guy did not deserve that at the end...I feel like that was a bunch of pent up anger from so many cumulative clients not being able to listen and respond the way he wants them to, but this client literally just tried to position for .3 sec instead of running straight and got BLASTED by Neace. Client tried his best all game, panicked and misplayed yes but those are less deserving of rage than someone with an inflated ego no? People who have the wrong attitude or ego deserve some stern no bullshit talk but someone like this...his misplays were extremely costly but still did not warrant such a response. Also Neace was clearly not in his usual mood from the start...seemed to be annoyed the entire time, very quiet.
Agreed, Neace blasting him at the end feels so weird, this guy just concentrated for 50+ min and he proceeds to make 2 mistakes (probably because of having a 50 min game on his shoulders) and then gets screamed at. Isn't the point of coaching to get better at the game? Sure he didn't clutch out a win but the point should be for the student to learn and improve not for Neace to be able to flex his students winning all their games. I can understand the reaction if the student had talked back or argued but he very obviously just choked under pressure.
@@alfabjornenco2922 dude was dog shit and didn’t listen throughout the whole game, he paid brace to coach him and neace gave him what he wanted.
I disagree. The guy paid for coaching and like Neace said if a client doesn't listen to what you're telling them why coach? It's not a must that the client wins off of the coaching game, but the client blatantly ignored what Neace told him to do. If you don't want to be told what to do, don't buy coaching. Just do your own thing and stay hardstuck for eternity.
@@SiDrift the thing with Yi was blatantly ignoring, whether that was bc the client just hard panicked or didn’t understand what Neace was telling him to do. But at the end, like someone else had mentioned I think he was trying to do exactly what Neace said, to “challenge” them. He came out of base immediately and ran at them, but he wiggled. To the client, he IS doing what he’s told, atleast trying to. To only run straight and not try to position at all is a lesson, but Neace literally just told him to challenge them and then exploded when the client tried to. It’s so disappointing to watch.
Hey Neace, i'm still learning the game and a shorts channel i'd tune into on the daily would be like 20-30 second clips explaining a champions kit/ult so when i'm going into matches I don't feel blind. For example like "Lol Yone skills" and just having a quick explanation would be extremely helpful.
"This is the first time I've Antonio Brown'd a client"
shitty attitude if you ask me, the end is not what i would have wanted from a coach tbh...
you need to care more about how the player on the other side of the coaching feels when you yell them out over something that they might just be mechanicly blocked from even doing in the time you would maybe do it.
Where was the rage quit? Neace just got up to get water
Dude you already put out enough free content to help any low elo player to reach Plat, if you want to Profit Max with TH-cam shorts then go for it
Ever since i started watching him, my gameplay improved a lot
gets paid like 200usd and then just yells at the client making him feel like shit. quality education is what that is 😂
been watching chill Neace a lot since I saw you advertise it. May I ask for just Angy Neace. Where everything you do in the game has to be 100% aggressive. Even if shits going good you gotta go batshit angry. Your health may be on the line and blood pressure may rise. But it would make for premo content.
lmao gordon ramsey would be on the menu for u
Neace,your headlines are soo catchy,your subs will grow x100!!!!
its not that hard to stand on the edge of ur cage against yi, that mechanic wouldve single handedly won him that game
Poor kid wasted 350 to get shouted at by skeletor
ok this is bound to be an intresting one..well with neace patience its gotta be a good one
I haven’t watched LoL content in years but the TH-cam shorts got me into this channel
So much bad advice in this video. Not trying to flame, but some of the things you were saying just made no sense. You literally told him "Press bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb" 1000x repeated, while his team is fighting a 2v2 with inhib at like 200 hp. The enemy team wasn't even respawning for another full 60 seconds and they easily could have gotten the inhib and maybe even ended. 55:55 53 minutes into the game. Both their main carrys yi and yone were dead. Leaving ezreal with 40 percent and zilean about to die as he wasted ult on himself running away and GP just respawned, but even he gets chunked they are all sub 40 percent. They could have easily fought the 3v3 and bare minimum got the inhib in the scuffle. Brand even ends up killing the zilean. Instead you had him back in his team's face, they both die, and they get no inhib. Then you turn around and have him fight the same 2 people he could have in the 3v3 with his team at their base in an ending position? Like wtf kinda call was that. Then you turn around and flame him when he loses at the end? I liked some of your other video's, but you just flat out shit the bed on this and then blamed him for it. He made mistakes in the end on things you were telling him, but he should have already won by then.
THATS THE CONSPIRACY GUY! Holy guacamole, you can instantly tell its him by voice.
treat a shorts channel like a way to advertise the neace brand. It's going to work because the people who wanna watch the full lesson are going to come straight to this channel and the main channel.
You can also launch some shorts for chill neace to give it more traction. However use footage from vids, don't look directly into making shorts.
QSS seems fine to me. Ashe arrow. Into panth cc into veigar. I’m good with being stunned for 12 seconds. Plus builds into Mercurial.
i would personaly love to have the shorts from the content that this channel is putting out and having somthing that reddirect us to the full video if there is one
"Why do people hate on me for charging 250 for this" kekekek
I know he is a coach, but screaming and swearing at your client isn’t helping that much. Everyone does wrong and a lot of wrong shit in league. I’m not an expert or something, but I wouldn’t like to sit down with a screaming person.
A channel where neace can posts all his rage moments? I think yes
Dude i love how neace is just straight up, no like rigamaroll bull shit, just honest questions and suggestions. It is very refreshing to find a youtuber like this. Keep up the good work and i look forward to more content. And yes i think it should be a separate channel so i can binge like 20 of them after these educationally long videos.
51:33 "you need to live, you need to live"
- intentionally grabs zil bomb and loses half hp
Always hilarious to see Neace loose his mind and yells like a senile man XD awesome daily content as always
I understand both sides all too well. To this day, I don't understand why it seems that my brain and fingers sometimes do what they want, only when i face real opponents. Especially in LOL it can happen that I overthink situations and the stress let's me do the weirdest things. Since I did play other competitive games for years, I know that you only overcome this with A LOT of practice. I feel with both, but as a coach I thought this happening is common knowledge. From my personal experience people that are very empathic struggle with this a lot. I feel with the guy who spend a lot of money to get frustrated at the end.
I don't think this guy's a good coach at all. I don't think anyone actually learn anything from his coaching, and every time I've seen his videos his students lose and look lost.
He helped me b4 he left the site get to plat when I was a peak Sliver player.
I don't think microing someone's champ is the best way to coach. First, stress like that prevents ideal motor function. The brain literally stops communicating under stress. They've done studies on it. Second, it prevents you from seeing weaknesses on the student. This guy was obviously learning, and his mechanics were incredibly sluggish, even on a relatively simple champion. Rather than essentially telling him where to click you should absolutely give him the macro and then debrief the mechanical misplays.
That last Yi fight for example, it's impossible to know how he would've played it out on his own, that to me is a big issue that a coach needs to know in order to give him the best advice. And you denied the opportunity.
Ngl I love Neace but this seemed out of line- I’m not going to pay 250+ to some dude, and get talked to me like that. It’s very hard in one game to reverse years of muscle mem and reactions, just because someone in your ear says to hit a button when your stressed and prob panicking.
me and this dude would get right into it. it would be the most captivating rage filled session you ever saw
lol.
Imagine paying someone that much money and still losing while getting yelled at and even feeling the need to apologize xD Neace is fucking great! XDXDXD
The classic Neace Treatment, Love it!!! $350 well spent, keep these gems coming
Ngl, bit of a clickbait title there.
It didn't really seem like the guy had an ego problem and was choosing to ignore you. Seemed a lot more like he just hesitated when you said to go all-in against three of the enemies.
Yeah, he needs to work on that hesitation and confidence. But outright ignoring you or ego tripping? Nah, that wasn't it man.