www.ebay.com/itm/174344166205 I forgot to say this in the video but I had to use a washer under the part that presses on the spring because the tool came just barely too big to fit on top of the spring retainer. I got this washer for the hardware store for 15¢ and just glue it / jb weld i it to the bottom of the tool. You’ll see what I’m talking about when you do it. If not let me know
Hey I just wanted to say thank you for the clear in depth video and for all your answers in the comments. I have a 94 Lincoln town car with the same 2 valve 4.6 and its smoking habit has been getting worse and worse it’s starting to chug oil regularly. I thought I’d need an air compressor or 1,000 feet of yarn to do this job but your TDC for every cylinder method makes perfect sense and means I could do it without a compressor so thanks for all the info you posted. I hope I’ll be able to do this job on my car and get it to go another 100,000 miles
I just did this. It's true, for a 4.6 you don't need to use a rope or compressed air. Just rotate the piston to the cylinder you're working on to TDC. There is no need to remove the camshafts but you do need to remove the camshaft girdles and you will need a special tool to push down on the valves to remove the keepers. That said if you're going this far to replace the valve stems you might as well install new valve springs. OEM is 7$ each or go with the upgraded beehive PAC springs.
Little tip, if you have a cordless drill that you can adjust the torque on. get a socket attachment and it goes much quicker. Just remember to keep the torque low. i just did a 5.4L
I did the same on mine without the compressor trick (didn't have the correct fitting). I stuffed the first 4 cylinders full of yarn (boy was that time consuming). Then I realized the pistons were right on the valves at TDC and saved a bunch of time not fooling with the yarn. Good video though! I'm the guy with the yellow gt at the track BTW.
@@trbuilt5181 I put the piston at BDC then used a long screw driver to stuff 6 inches of yarn at a time in the cylinder until I had like 15 feet of it in there. Then I spun the engine over until it compressed the yarn against the valves. Took me like 8 hours to do the first 4 cylinders. Felt like an idiot when I figured out I didn't need the yarn at all. Haha
@@johnbeardsley2962 I wouldn't call you an idiot...you just discovered that it wasnt necessary. it took Edison 100 times to figure out the incandescent light. people asked why he failed 99 times, Edison said: I didnt fail 99 times, I learned 99 ways how not to make a light bulb😊👍
Appreciate it when I decided to make this video I told myself I wanted this to be the best video on valve stem seals you have no idea what I had to do to get some of the shots I got
I need to do it on my 06 explorer with the 3 valve 4.6. I know I need to use different tool, but I also thought about not using the compressor. So basically you do a cylinder at a time and just put it in TDC, replace the seals, and move to the next one and bring it to TDC again. And all that 8 times, correct ? I would feel better if the piston is supporting the valves.
@@trbuilt5181 excuse my ignorance but what does tdc means I’m doing my 03 valve seals and just got to your video for some reason it won’t show me the tool you used to compress the spring
@@trbuilt5181 bro the money these youtube guys make is unreal.do videos like these and you will be in there.I mean you could do a video on installing turbo your airbag system I mean just you doing daily stuff with the mustang people will watch trust me
Now after watching this video feel like the shops I went to were out to get me they kept telling me the heads we’re gonna have to come off to do this job on my 1998 mustang gt 4.6 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ great video what would you think someone would charge to do this job ?
it really depends on the shop some will pull the heads that’s the 💯 correct way to do it to also get the heads checked out and redone but around 800-1200 to do what i did in this video. but definitely more when they have to pull heads
be careful my 4.6l was a 1997 the exhaust valves were thick of deposits so once the valves turned slightly I lost compression had to remove both heads and installed all new valves .. although my engine runs alot cooler now and more compression the piston heads also were thick of deposits causing hot spots I did use the tool after watching this video works great th-cam.com/video/vfrs0YqsmzY/w-d-xo.html
How are you holding the valves up Have you got compressed air in the cylinder or are you putting the motor to top dead centre and letting the valve sit on the crown of the piston so it doesn’t drop all the way in…??
Did you happen to have any oil getting into the spark plug tubes due to bad valve seals? My 4.6 in my crown vic keeps having a misfire issues with cylinder 3 due to oil covering the plug causing it not to fire. I had a ford guy tell me that those symptoms are that of bad valve seals.
nope no tick i remember, you could have more of like a tapping noise from the timing chain guides if they are stock. they fail and start to break apart
@@trbuilt5181 hm, mine sounds like a tick/tapping sound but i can only hear it when i accelerate and ive read many things on what it could be , ill check that out tho
Can you please tell me what you call or where Can you buy that little plastic tool that you use to protect the stem while going in to install, it looks like a piece of straw. Thank you in advance and very good work!
I know when I realized I wanted to make a video I was too far into the process, for when you take the cam off hold the cam and remove the tensioners and unbolt the cam. But there is more videos on this process by other people! If you run into any issues let me know I will try to help you the best I can
TR BUILT we just finished the job few weeks ago left cam in used a tool found from Autozone compress springs was not easy by any means but it’s done...does not smoke anymore 😀👍
@@Robyne_u61 OEM tools part number 24434 but keep in mind it’s a pain to use .its a two person job we used extensions and 1/2 torque wrench to get leverage a strap from crank bolt to extension and a long board to support /rest torque wrench on arms get tired fast....good luck👍 .ps get creative
Jeez my 98 GT is doing it, it's actually pissing me off dude, but at least now I know the issue, but will it need to be changed many times? Or it should not have this issue again?
You shouldn’t have the issue again for a while I’m assuming the new ones fixed the issue of it dry rotting but I haven’t had any issues so far, I’m still smoke free and it’s great
Nope you don’t have to I pressed the seal down far enough where it would seat and the valve spring itself will also press it down, in theory putting the valve spring on is also like sitting the seal with a socket
How long did this take you to do ? And wont spinning the engine without the chains and cams hooked up throw you outta time requiring you to degree the cams ?
It took me about a week to do because I was waiting on a bolt for my new timing chains and no it’s not required to degree factory cams because there is no adjustment. When you put everything together you gotta align all the timing marks
@@trbuilt5181 I think I'm gonna do this but I ain't sure lol and if I do I might as well change chains and everything else well I'm there probably leave stock cams cause I'll be going turbo. Do the valves drop down a little bit or does the piston fully compress agaisnt them. I've never worked on ford shit before so that's why I'm skeptical
Yep i would recommend changing timing chains and guides, and the valves go down and touch the piston. It is not possible for you to drop a valve if you do it this way as long as you put the valve spring back on before you turn over the engine, and follow me on Instagram I twin turbo’d my car and blew it up in 2 weeks
@@trbuilt5181 ok. Just wondering. I just got a 03 gt and i have to change valve seals. Its a strong car, it just feels a bit sluggish. Like it needs better acceleration or something.
my cars smokes on start up sometimes not all the time and does it sometimes taking off as well had a problem with it stumbling on take off too if I floored it changed 02 sensor and seemed to fix it but it still seems to somewhat cut out a bit when flooring it I'm curious if this would be my issue or a bad fuel injector plugs were already changed and I didnt see really any signs of oil but I noticed I do lose oil over time so it probably is my seals
No issues after install? I've heard the air compressor is so you don't have to compress the springs as much. I've even seen some spring compressor tools that come with a shim you stick in to the spring so you won't over compress it.
Even if the spring over compresses the valve is already stopped and it won’t be pushing down on the cylinder with any force as soon as it pops off the keepers that’s it. No more pressure on the valve. Just make sure you don’t rotate the crank while your in that state
@@trbuilt5181 thanks for the reply. My concern was for the integrity of the valve spring since you have to compress it farther to compensate for the distance that the valve dropped. Good to know it won't cause any issues.
That’s almost as far as the spring actually goes while the engine is running, the only thing that changes is that your stopping the valve from moving so you can pop out the keepers/locks to you can remove the spring
Just a quick question, would this be (or possibly cause) why oil is leaking from the exhaust manifolds? Just seeking where I could go next from at this point.
Just don’t do what I did and use the starter motor to turn the motor over with a valve dropped down in the cylinder if you do use the starter to turn over the engine disconnect the coil so it doesn’t try starting like my 4000$ oops 😬
Can you give me the link or the site you got the spring compressor tool from?
www.ebay.com/itm/174344166205 I forgot to say this in the video but I had to use a washer under the part that presses on the spring because the tool came just barely too big to fit on top of the spring retainer. I got this washer for the hardware store for 15¢ and just glue it / jb weld i it to the bottom of the tool. You’ll see what I’m talking about when you do it. If not let me know
TR BUILT thanks
@@trbuilt5181 hey dude on rock auto what spring set did you buy...i couldn't find the orange ones like yours.
Valve stem seals, I just got whatever they had I got the ultra powers
@@trbuilt5181 nice car btw. Hope you still have it.
Hey I just wanted to say thank you for the clear in depth video and for all your answers in the comments. I have a 94 Lincoln town car with the same 2 valve 4.6 and its smoking habit has been getting worse and worse it’s starting to chug oil regularly. I thought I’d need an air compressor or 1,000 feet of yarn to do this job but your TDC for every cylinder method makes perfect sense and means I could do it without a compressor so thanks for all the info you posted. I hope I’ll be able to do this job on my car and get it to go another 100,000 miles
I hope this job clears up your smoking issue!
Good Job.... Old timers taught you about that grease on the keepers. Keep the old methods alive...
My 1995 Ford T-bird smokes a lot and needs new valve stem seals. Thanks for this video! Definitely improved my confidence doing this job!
mine too brother
make that three of us brothers
Four of us at this point
1996
I just did this. It's true, for a 4.6 you don't need to use a rope or compressed air. Just rotate the piston to the cylinder you're working on to TDC. There is no need to remove the camshafts but you do need to remove the camshaft girdles and you will need a special tool to push down on the valves to remove the keepers.
That said if you're going this far to replace the valve stems you might as well install new valve springs. OEM is 7$ each or go with the upgraded beehive PAC springs.
yep the only thing i regret is not putting in some good valve springs so it would be easier to drop in cams in the future
You need to make more videos because you explain everything perfect in every detail
Little tip, if you have a cordless drill that you can adjust the torque on. get a socket attachment and it goes much quicker. Just remember to keep the torque low. i just did a 5.4L
Yeppp I had one just wanted to do it by hand for some reason
Excellent video. Great filming, clear picture & also explaining every step you were doing. Very nice tool to remove the valve springs too
I did the same on mine without the compressor trick (didn't have the correct fitting). I stuffed the first 4 cylinders full of yarn (boy was that time consuming). Then I realized the pistons were right on the valves at TDC and saved a bunch of time not fooling with the yarn. Good video though! I'm the guy with the yellow gt at the track BTW.
How did you stuff it full of yard that sounds rediculous 😂 and I’m glad you figured it out. We should run the next time you go
@@trbuilt5181 I put the piston at BDC then used a long screw driver to stuff 6 inches of yarn at a time in the cylinder until I had like 15 feet of it in there. Then I spun the engine over until it compressed the yarn against the valves. Took me like 8 hours to do the first 4 cylinders. Felt like an idiot when I figured out I didn't need the yarn at all. Haha
@@johnbeardsley2962 I wouldn't call you an idiot...you just discovered that it wasnt necessary. it took Edison 100 times to figure out the incandescent light. people asked why he failed 99 times, Edison said: I didnt fail 99 times, I learned 99 ways how not to make a light bulb😊👍
@@DeepSouthBayouDiesel 👍 Exactly right!
You need way more subs man that was a really good tutorial good camera work and explanation
Appreciate it when I decided to make this video I told myself I wanted this to be the best video on valve stem seals you have no idea what I had to do to get some of the shots I got
@@trbuilt5181 You succeeded. Great work
I need to do it on my 06 explorer with the 3 valve 4.6. I know I need to use different tool, but I also thought about not using the compressor. So basically you do a cylinder at a time and just put it in TDC, replace the seals, and move to the next one and bring it to TDC again. And all that 8 times, correct ? I would feel better if the piston is supporting the valves.
Yep just have it at TDC on the cylinder your working on
Thanks, surprised everyone is saying to use the air compressor with the plug adapter. But your way sounds better. Thanks, and happy better 2021 :)
@@trbuilt5181 excuse my ignorance but what does tdc means I’m doing my 03 valve seals and just got to your video for some reason it won’t show me the tool you used to compress the spring
@@mrcs-mrls1326 TDC means top dead center and I used a cheap tool off of eBay
Do you have a video link on how to remove the cams ?
There is a tdc mark as well
hey man great video, i have the same problem, is it ok if i use metal valve stems?
Perfect brother. Very detailed and useful video. Keep going!!!
Appreciate the feedback
How are you keeping the valves from falling in ?
So the keeper stops the spring from coming off the valve do you have to set your timing on your motor after doing this great video
Yes, the keeper holds the retainer and the retainer holds the spring. And yes you have to re set the timing once you take the chains off
Ok bro thanks man . You're well on your way to being a TH-cam sensation
Just gotta find motivation to make more videos . Since this video I twin turboed my car and blew it up
@@trbuilt5181 bro the money these youtube guys make is unreal.do videos like these and you will be in there.I mean you could do a video on installing turbo your airbag system I mean just you doing daily stuff with the mustang people will watch trust me
@@CT-pc3rh facts
Can you put a link for the tool you're using?
Now after watching this video feel like the shops I went to were out to get me they kept telling me the heads we’re gonna have to come off to do this job on my 1998 mustang gt 4.6 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ great video what would you think someone would charge to do this job ?
it really depends on the shop some will pull the heads that’s the 💯 correct way to do it to also get the heads checked out and redone but around 800-1200 to do what i did in this video. but definitely more when they have to pull heads
This might be dumb question but did you have to remove cams for this job and did you have to mess with the timing at all
yes and yes dm me on instagram for more info about it
be careful my 4.6l was a 1997 the exhaust valves were thick of deposits so once the valves turned slightly I lost compression had to remove both heads and installed all new valves .. although my engine runs alot cooler now and more compression the piston heads also were thick of deposits causing hot spots I did use the tool after watching this video works great th-cam.com/video/vfrs0YqsmzY/w-d-xo.html
How are you holding the valves up
Have you got compressed air in the cylinder or are you putting the motor to top dead centre and letting the valve sit on the crown of the piston so it doesn’t drop all the way in…??
The piston is at tdc on whatever cylinder I’m working on
When you did this job do you have to make sure every cylinder is at tdc?
Yes this is extremely extremely important
Great video but i itw wouldve been nice to see hiw you remove cams
Hey man do I need to remove the cams or can I do it with the cams intact ? Never done any engine work like that
yes i would remove the cams but sone other people will tell you you don’t have to
Did you happen to have any oil getting into the spark plug tubes due to bad valve seals? My 4.6 in my crown vic keeps having a misfire issues with cylinder 3 due to oil covering the plug causing it not to fire. I had a ford guy tell me that those symptoms are that of bad valve seals.
Yes I did have oil on my spark plugs
That's valve covers not valve seals causing that.
Great video! Going to have to do mine soon I think
make sure you do timing chains while your in there!
How can I tell if my cylinder is top dead center. I know you used the two straws but I need more clarification.
did you have a tick noise before replacing them?? did ot go away after
nope no tick i remember, you could have more of like a tapping noise from the timing chain guides if they are stock. they fail and start to break apart
@@trbuilt5181 hm, mine sounds like a tick/tapping sound but i can only hear it when i accelerate and ive read many things on what it could be , ill check that out tho
Good stuff man, thanks for making this 👍🏼
No problem lmk if you need any help
Thank you for this bro. 💯
Good tutorial, thanks!
How long did it take you ?
Can they be done with out removing cams?
You just let the valves rest on the piston at TDC?
Can you please tell me what you call or where Can you buy that little plastic tool that you use to protect the stem while going in to install, it looks like a piece of straw. Thank you in advance and very good work!
It came with the valve stems I bought! I git them from rock auto but sure a straw could definitely work if it’s the right size
@@trbuilt5181 thank you!
what i actually can do: jump a car
what my family thinks i can do:
Here before the twin turbo’d gt350
Here before the turbo 2v 👀
How do you save trimming.also you did not show cam removal
I know when I realized I wanted to make a video I was too far into the process, for when you take the cam off hold the cam and remove the tensioners and unbolt the cam. But there is more videos on this process by other people! If you run into any issues let me know I will try to help you the best I can
TR BUILT we just finished the job few weeks ago left cam in used a tool found from Autozone compress springs was not easy by any means but it’s done...does not smoke anymore 😀👍
Good! Glad I could help
@@socalRooster what tool did you use by any chance
@@Robyne_u61 OEM tools part number 24434 but keep in mind it’s a pain to use .its a two person job we used extensions and 1/2 torque wrench to get leverage a strap from crank bolt to extension and a long board to support /rest torque wrench on arms get tired fast....good luck👍 .ps get creative
Will that tool work with the camshaft still in place?
It will not because it bolts down where the cam is in place
I like your videos you should post more
I kinda want to I just haven’t gotten around to it since I last posted I twin turbo’ed my stock engine cans it blew up 😂 soooooo idk
@@trbuilt5181 the mustang? 😂 I haven’t seen any footage of that
Its in Virginia
What kind of grease do you use?
any kind really preferable somthing like engine assembly lube
Much appreciated man. Definitely going to do this.
Glad I could help!
do you have to compress the new valve seal on? or does the spring pretty much do that when you install the keepers
The spring and the compressor keep the new valve stem on because if you look closely the spring sits on top of the valve stem seal
So just bring the piston up to tdc and let the valve sit on the piston crown?
Yep exactly
Was your car smoking before you changed them? And if I take it to a shop how much would they charge me
Yes it was smoking before I changed them. It smokes after it sat at idle for a second. And if a shop did the work the labor would be around $900-$1400
Can u add the site for the tool all im getting is stuff for the tires
I got the tool off of eBay
That tool works with the rear piston? I mean, you know that rears are to hard to access.
Nope no specialty tools other then the ones I showed taking the valve cover off is probably more difficult then valve seals on the rear
Would bad valve stem seals cause my oil pressure gauge to bounce at a slight but erratic rate?
No it will not I will try to replace your oil pressure sensor
@@trbuilt5181 Ahh ok cool. thanks👍
How much does it cost to have them replaced by an auto shop cuz I don’t have the tools for this
Around $1000 most likely maybe a tad bit
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THIS IS 4.6 CORRECT?
So I'm wondering about the cams and timing how to reinstall
Message me on instagram and I’ll help you out when you get to that point
@@trbuilt5181 ty
Jeez my 98 GT is doing it, it's actually pissing me off dude, but at least now I know the issue, but will it need to be changed many times? Or it should not have this issue again?
You shouldn’t have the issue again for a while I’m assuming the new ones fixed the issue of it dry rotting but I haven’t had any issues so far, I’m still smoke free and it’s great
That's great thanks I appreciate the tutorial extremely helpful and a life saver
Can this be done without removing cam?
hell no it cant
@@seanmckay3392 just vavle seal on mustang gt without removing cams
7:20 you aren't supposed to sit the valve with a socket before putting the spring back on?
Nope you don’t have to I pressed the seal down far enough where it would seat and the valve spring itself will also press it down, in theory putting the valve spring on is also like sitting the seal with a socket
How long did this take you to do ? And wont spinning the engine without the chains and cams hooked up throw you outta time requiring you to degree the cams ?
It took me about a week to do because I was waiting on a bolt for my new timing chains and no it’s not required to degree factory cams because there is no adjustment. When you put everything together you gotta align all the timing marks
@@trbuilt5181 I think I'm gonna do this but I ain't sure lol and if I do I might as well change chains and everything else well I'm there probably leave stock cams cause I'll be going turbo. Do the valves drop down a little bit or does the piston fully compress agaisnt them. I've never worked on ford shit before so that's why I'm skeptical
Yep i would recommend changing timing chains and guides, and the valves go down and touch the piston. It is not possible for you to drop a valve if you do it this way as long as you put the valve spring back on before you turn over the engine, and follow me on Instagram I twin turbo’d my car and blew it up in 2 weeks
@@trbuilt5181 I got you but how you blow it up in 2 weeks lol
Stock bottom end It grenaded, I pulled a chunk of piston out the side of my block
What symptoms did you have, to make yiu change these other then smoke and oil burn
Thoes where the only symptoms bad valve stem seals don’t effect the engine that much just smoke and some oil consumption
if im doing valve seals im doing a stage 2 cam
Nice video why not use a socket
Cause I wasn’t thinking about it, I also had a cordless ratchet near me, but thank you
Do the car run smoother/better after being changed?
It ran the same just no more smoking
@@trbuilt5181 ok. Just wondering. I just got a 03 gt and i have to change valve seals. Its a strong car, it just feels a bit sluggish. Like it needs better acceleration or something.
Well theses cars aren’t that quick but the best bang for your buck is probably going to be gears ok this car or skip straight to boost
@@trbuilt5181 thanks for the info. Which gear size you prefer?
4.10’s or 3.73’s
my cars smokes on start up sometimes not all the time and does it sometimes taking off as well had a problem with it stumbling on take off too if I floored it changed 02 sensor and seemed to fix it but it still seems to somewhat cut out a bit when flooring it I'm curious if this would be my issue or a bad fuel injector plugs were already changed and I didnt see really any signs of oil but I noticed I do lose oil over time so it probably is my seals
I’m pretty sure if your car stumbles it’s not the valve stem seals but the smoking on startup is the valve stem seals
Are u still running stock cats?
What valve stem seal install tool is that
It came with the sealsl I bought off of rock auto
Would these cause a failed leak down test?
Unlikely but how bad is failed
@@trbuilt5181 I'm not sure. But the hole was filled with oil and that is the one that failed I was told by the mechanic. It's all original 02 gt.
Oh okay yeah I couldn’t tell you to be certain
Borescoped and yup leaky valves. Thanks for the reply
No issues after install? I've heard the air compressor is so you don't have to compress the springs as much. I've even seen some spring compressor tools that come with a shim you stick in to the spring so you won't over compress it.
Nope still runs perfectly fine with no issues
Even if the spring over compresses the valve is already stopped and it won’t be pushing down on the cylinder with any force as soon as it pops off the keepers that’s it. No more pressure on the valve. Just make sure you don’t rotate the crank while your in that state
@@trbuilt5181 thanks for the reply. My concern was for the integrity of the valve spring since you have to compress it farther to compensate for the distance that the valve dropped. Good to know it won't cause any issues.
That’s almost as far as the spring actually goes while the engine is running, the only thing that changes is that your stopping the valve from moving so you can pop out the keepers/locks to you can remove the spring
Good shit bro✅
What symptoms did you have from bad valve seals?
Smoking at idle, when the car sat for a second and then you press the gas pedal and smoke comes out and maybe sometimes oil on the plugs
@@trbuilt5181 same issue I have
Just a quick question, would this be (or possibly cause) why oil is leaking from the exhaust manifolds? Just seeking where I could go next from at this point.
I don’t believe so but I can’t tell you for certain
Is this still the same for a 97
Yep same engine
I will pay you to do mines! I'm dead serious bro💯 Let me know
Wya
I'm in Memphis Tn Where You At??
Charlotte, nc
@@trbuilt5181 how much would you charge me I'm not far from charlotte
My value seals ride up and down with value stem
Word no cap
Just don’t do what I did and use the starter motor to turn the motor over with a valve dropped down in the cylinder if you do use the starter to turn over the engine disconnect the coil so it doesn’t try starting like my 4000$ oops 😬
Noooooo 😭
I have same problem on my 02 gt the white smoke at idle or revving where did you get the valve stem seals ?
I got the seals from rock auto, left a link in the description, the valve stems fixed my issues completely
I have the same problem is that what it is? It’s not very much smoke
Yeah that’s what it is, I was just leave it how it is until it gets worse
How do you put the car back into timing? Tdc on cylinder1?
You have to line up the timing marks on the crank and on the cams sorry I don’t have a video in on how to do that
Hmu on Instagram and illl be able to help out more
the 1997 4.6 liter is the same
Yes it is
How did you keep the valve from dropping???
When the piston is on TDC for that cylinder it’s resting on the piston
I'm just gonna pay some schmuck to do it lol
Almost want another 2v... Jk
Do it!!!
You sound weird 🧐
AlsomeTwo I knowwwwww
@@trbuilt5181 think you sound just fine young man. Good job.i have 01 gt with 42k miles on it and I love it.