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Time for a track battle - with a difference! Mat’s brought together the Porsche 911 GT3 and the entry-level 911 Carrera, and he’s taking them both out on a hot lap.
Now, it may seem pretty obvious which car will set the fastest lap time... But given there is a £40,000 price difference between these two 911s, we wanted to find out just how much more performance you get for £40k!
Let’s take a look at the stats, starting with the 911 Carrera. It’s powered by a 3.0-litre twin-turbo flat-six that delivers 385hp & 450Nm, and tops the scales at 1,505kg.
The 911 GT3, meanwhile, being a track-focused car, is a bit lighter, weighing 1,435kg. It’s packing a glorious 4.0-litre naturally-aspirated flat-six engine that revs to 9,000rpm and puts down an impressive 510hp & 470Nm - that’s just 20Nm more than the Carrera!
So, should you spend the extra £40k, or does the entry-level Carrera pack enough of a punch on-track? Stick with Mat to find out!
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What cars do you want to see us take out on track next!? 👇
Aston Valkyrie vs One 77 :D
2021 Nissan GTR
Dacia duster
992 911 turbo s vs 992 gt3
911 is the fastest porsche but would like to see its performance on the track.
Mustang vs camaro
Would be very interesting to see the new Cayman GT4-RS Vs 911 GT3.
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Even Porsche group is interested in that video.
maybe gt3 will kill that cayman.
@@tcug8giii730 No, GT4 would be faster.
@@Bertha076 check the gt4rs's nurburgring lap and gt3's lap in nurburgring
That base model 911 looks like a good deal as a daily driver and as the occasional performance drive.
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Haha says occasional Performance drive while driving a Ford focus...
You're right, but it's still like 85k pounds so it doesn't make it that much affordable
an M5 will be much faster and more practical for the price.
@@aayushgupta2154 not around a track.
Just shows, how good the standard 911 Carrera is already out of the box. Amazing video!
Not that good for 85k car tbh
@@nonameyet2205 Not that good ? You must be an ignorant American. If you dont have a money for the base 911, like me, thats not the reason to type here that these cars are "not that good". Porsche's 911 is the platform that has the best time (911 GT2 RS) on the longest and one of the most dangerous Nurburging Nordshleife race tracks in the World. Well, that 911 exists from 1964 and look at the price of some old Porsche 911's. Porsche 911 is the the best in the World when it comes to driving dynamics, chasis, gearbox and enigines. And one more thing, cars like 911 do not depreciate as much as the other cars but go up in the value like GT3, GT3 RS or 911R or 911GT2 RS.
@@nonameyet2205 can't think of many 80k cars that will do 3.7 to 60 and 8s to 100, with that good a chassis and reliability. They really can be launched and tracked all day and be fine..
@@gorangoric2630 Just because i don't want to spend 85k on a 385hp car doesn't mean im ignorance
@@aboddle8878 Umm no, there are quite a few actually. For example the closest competitor would be the BMW M4 Comp cost around 76k and it will do 0-60 in 3.7s and around 8s to 100 or for 85k you can get a Nissan GTR and it will do 0-60 in 2.9s and 6.9s to 100
It would be interesting to see the difference in lap times for a pro racing driver too?
who preheats the brakes and tires
A chap on Autocar compared the GT3 and turbo s on my similar track, no GT3 won, but was contrived obvs by Porsche so as to keep the faux image of the GT 3being the ultimate Porsche,as the turbo s had shit tires, twisty small track.
@@sarasijghosh because he's bald
This guy is not worth the better car. Don't promote him further. Lock him in, in the entertaining business.
@@sarasijghosh i think the racing driver would better exploit the advantages of the GT3 so have a bigger gap?
Gotta agree that the 911, whether it be a Base model Carrera or a GT3, it looks good, and it's such a masterpiece being elegant and minimalistic in it's own ways.
Porsche should never stop making naturally aspirated flat 6's. :D
Edit : all cars matter doesn't matter if it is turbocharged or supercharged. They all are unique in their own ways :D
Hating on Turbo cars won't make you look cool bud, but either way i'd still respect your opinion.
@@ilovechocolatebutihategrapes I hate to say it, but i did not mention any hate towards turbo cars buddy. Anyways, thanks man :)
@@warzz4258 i know, i was just speaking to all the kids who are usually just commenting "bring back N/A" or anything else and sometimes they also hate Turbocharged cars for no actual reason. But not with you, even when you just prefer N/A cars you still respect Turbocharged one, so with that i'd respect your opinion.
@@warzz4258 You're kinda strange bro:)P ABCD.
P.O.V : That was just a joke, I hope you don't mind.
@@ilovechocolatebutihategrapes well, my bad then sorry :)
PLEASE, put the times up with Sam driving both around the track!! Be interesting to see how different it is with a normal driver and racing driver in the seat XD
I thought that. I would love to see the standard car on the sticky rubber too. I would wager it wouldn't be far off at all.
Who's Sam?
@@Kronos0999 The guy with the stop watch. He's a pro racing driver.
I was thinking exactly the same
They should definitely be using Sam more. Comes across as a nice guy.
Wow they're a lot closer in a straight line than I was expecting
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Why?
@@dragospahontu Why not?
@@dragospahontu why what?
@@Maurice_Moss naturally aspirated vs forced induction. High down force vs low down force.
Honestly. out of all the car reviewers I've seen Mat and the team at carwow are the best. Keep it up!
These bots are going CRAZY
They are good
I'd have to disagree. Carwow is not the best channel for car lovers. Savagegeese, Hagerty and Thesmokingtire are on another level.
@@dragospahontu A level below.
@@captainpugwash3275 have you seen Jason Cammisa on Hagerty? th-cam.com/video/j7YqdGt19tw/w-d-xo.html
He actually knows what he's talking about and has the best editors.
I saw Carrera and GT in the same title and got excited. 🙃
Lmao i should not have laughed at this..i feel you man :')
It's never boring to see GT3... Expecting more and more GT3 videos from Carwow...
Buy the base model :
Buy the Pilot Sports Tyres
Buy the Spoiler
Put an Exhust on Carrera
Put rest of the 30 grand in Stock and other investments .
Put the 30 grand in trackdays
You'd never get it to rev to 9 though.
Or spend even more money to get Manthey-Racing package to it for it to be even faster around the track.
@@timometselaar brilliant idea 💡 yeah , whats the point a supercar if your not going bananas 🍌 on it
@@R03333 4.0 ltr engine is a dream but hear me out when can we actually reach an absolute limit of normal 911 is really the question but if someone is experienced track day user then its ohk i guess . But still 40 grand! Thats almost 50% of the original car and not the mention special parts and labour for maintaining it .
I love entry level 911. I enjoyed this video. Thanks for your videos about this
You guys coming up with new content and it's amazing. You've gone from Reviews to Drag Race/Acceleration/Break tests to Track Day comparisons. Well done Carwow.
What a beautiful sunny day to begin using Mat's help
Love you mate 🙌❤
Awesome entertaining content Matt. You should definitely do more of these and if possible include 1/4 mile time comparison. 👍
Great video! Two entirely different ways to enjoy a 911. I‘ve owned/own them all, and for my money, the real turbo 911, built as light as possible, skipping the sunroof, full on electric seats, FL, & the like, is the way to go if living in the U.S. The GT3 is the way to go if you are a track junkie. The lack of low end torque, especially in the U.S. where speed limits are low, make the GT3/RS a disappointment. My ultimate 911 is the GT2/RS. It’s the king (holy grail). It has Mega torque, power, speed, handling, dynamics, flair, style, and it’s rare . It’s my next/last new 911 I’m buying to replace my race/light built Turbo. There, I said it. The truth hurts. Cheers all.
Always a good time watching these videos
Seeing how Steve Sutcliff went almost 3 seconds faster in an M3 around here, that Matt did in the GT3. I’d love to see this same review with a professional driver so we know what they can actually run.
Hey carwow admin can you arrange for the most insane british drag race ever by pitting the BAC mono against the Ariel atom v8?? It would be absolutely insane!!!!
I think we already got that in NFS MW2 🤣🤣🤣
Ah yes, the most insane British drag race between two American built powertrains.
@@TommyAngelo1337 The engine in the Atom v8 is built with Suzuki bike engine parts.
@@gijsliempd2411 It's built by an American company using Hayabusa heads, yes. Either way far from British.
@@TommyAngelo1337 You're probably going to say, that the DeTomaso Pantera is American Muscle, because it has a Ford V8 in it, even though it's Italien, right?
Well, big news for you, a lot of car brands share engines. And still, the Atom is made in Britain, just the engine is not.
Even Mercedes uses Renault engines in some of their lower entry class cars. You still wouldn't say, that those are French, would you?
I love your videos! Thanks a ton for the laughs all the time.
Wow
911 has always been my dream car, ever since I was a kid in the 1970s playing Top Trumps. Just sublime. Meanwhile, I will make do with my somewhat more humble BMW 128ti. At least it's the same colour as the base 911 in this video :-)
Can't believe a standard 911 has nearly 400hp! That's crazy! 20 years ago it was probably 100hp less in a Carrera 2!
Even a base 911 is a blast and amazing sports car
It would be interesting to see the difference between the new GTS and the GT3 - could be close in terms of power.
Love these track comparisons, do more!
My 992 C2 is so practical I have binned my other "modern" performance cars.The Carrera 2 also has the advantage of a softer ride on real roads with 19/20 inch tires, and £750 main dealer services every 20,000 miles. I have now completed 25,000 miles in mine, it is incredible.The depreciation has been £0. I get 34 mpg quite often too. Without doubt , the 992 C2 is not only the quickest and best but also the cheapest car I have owned. What a great car. I still love the GT cars too but not every day driving to work!
Matt, I would absolutely love to watch you and a few mates of yours go on an adventure !
You need the GT cars for collectibility and value appreciation
My mates got like 3 911 gt cars lmao also got a p1 and a few mclarens and Ferraris. I’m so envious of him aha he’s on all the lists for new cars from the 3 brands
@@jamesmason8905 my mates got a T-Rex with a jetpack and sunglasses
@@nicolagabriel8520 🤣
My self has a golf r and Im very happy with it 😋
That test really shows you don’t need the full beans 911 to have good speed
The test only shows that Mat is not a good driver and can't fully use the GT3's potential
@@eriktransformer but if skill level goes up the time would go up with both cars, so you would think in most cases the time difference % would be similar even if the times were faster
@@5alm0n depends on the track. This was very low speed corners with tight turns. If you were to race them on a track with high speed corners you would get a significant advantage with the additional downforce from the gt3. Ultimately increasing the gap between the times
@@vushnekov3665 very true, but I’m guessing driving round some country back roads it wouldn’t be too different.
Thanx Matt. Very informative vid. Porsche's engineering is just mind bending. For an entry level car to deliver such astounding performance as opposed to the high performance track version is beyond comprehension. And you have proven definitively that every average male over 40 needs a 'basic' Porsche.
Wow, I’m very impressed. Considering that the base Carrera is £40,000 less and is only about 2 seconds slower around a track, really shows how much Porsche has mastered their racing technology throughout the years as a company. I was expecting the GT3 to be at least 5 seconds quicker. As always, great video Carwow!
5 seconds on a 45 second lap, are you nuts... Even a golf R wouldn't be 5 seconds slower
@@fraka899 My Corsa 1.2 would smoke them both
Don’t forget that 2 seconds on a 70 second lap would mean that you’d be lapped how many times?
@@captainpugwash3275 can't do shit to my Suzuki Vitara 1.6 diesel bruh
Cup 2 tires on the base would narrow that margin considerably too.
Honestly a carrera 2 with exhaust, tune and cup 2 tires would give the gt3 a run for its money and be way more driveable on the road.
I have almost this exact setup in a base C2 and it's phenomenal.
@@GregSalazar i have a stage 1 c2s with ps2 (502hp on the dyno) and i drive more fast than a standard pilote of gt3
+100 on this. But the GT3 still feels and sounds a cut above. Choices!
@@ChurchAutoTest of course ! If i have the choice i will take the gt3 : more fun, better engine , sound , fatstest ... But for me with my c2s i can have a baby gt3 for 100k ! But of course a gt3 is better, my dad have 981 gt4 and he is less fast but so much fun !
@@GregSalazar nice. What setup did you do? I have a 992 C2 cabriolet here in Aus 😅
Drag races we wanna see:
911 turbo S vs 765LT
Rimac Nevera vs model S plaid vs Chiron vs F1
Yianni vs mat vs daniel 100m foot race
C8 Corvette vs R8
This might be the best car video I've ever seen. It is truly useful information. I loved the other multi-Porsche test as well.
Now do something no other auto channel or magazine has ever done: drag race every single available Porsche model against each other. Porsche won't want you to do this, because it probably show just how close they actually are. But it would be a great video.
I'm actually surprised at how well the Carrera did when compared to the GT3
Gt3 is better investment. That thing will be worth a lot more than base in the future
@@lulube11e111 Yes, but with the base you will have much less issue racking up mileage and beating it around..with the GT3 you may be more sensitive to that (mileage needs to be not too high to maintain appreciation)
I agree, GT3 is a track care where you feel the difference, but for 95% of real driving the base is the better car to own and even on the track the performance gap is small for the price difference...
@@daviddee7103 On the track, the GT3 will be able to finish a race. The base model will be lucky to do 15 laps.
Another comment we can file under “things people who don’t go to the track say”. 2 second on a tiny track like that is a big margin. In a standard 20 minute track session the GT3 would lap the Carrera and then some.
That’s not accounting for the Carreras performance falling off as the brakes and tires go out of optimal range while the GT3 holds consistently and maybe even improves.
It’s not even close.
How well would the GTS do against the GT3
THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO SEE!
MORE VIDEOS LIKE THIS PLEASE!
Thanks for the video!
I would like to see the Carrera vs GT3 vs Turbo S in a drag race!
Brilliant video as always Matt but thing is you can’t actually buy a GT3! Go to Porsche and say “I want to buy a GT3” they will laugh at you, not a chance!
Exactly. Drivers me mad seeing all these reviews talking about the price of GT cars. It's utterly irrelevant because we can't buy one! Over past 8 years I've tried to order 991.1 GT3, 991.2 GT3, both RS versions, GT4 and 992 GT3. No chance whatsoever.
@@Ash-gz1rr Ive actually written to Porsche Germany telling them to remove the GT cars from their website as its pointless doing a build and sending it to a dealer, just a waste of time!
why can't buy you one? i'm confused. please tell me lol
@@mrm1712 Just try!😂 call a Porsche dealer and ask them, they will laugh!
As a fellow 996 owner, love all your videos showing the incredible versatility of these fabulous cars, I know how much I love mine !!
This is brilliant. You are living the dream, If you want a Canada division I am happy to do it.
5:59 Me when Carwow uploads a video
Finally a video worth watching. The drag strip videos were becoming monotonous. I have been wanting to see a base 911 against any of the higher grade 911’s.
We need more track battles from CarWow!… the drag races are good but it’s nice to know about handling as well
The base 911 looks much more elegant, without the ugly spoiler and other details.
This is a great example of diminishing returns.
I remember being impressed by my 300zxtt doing 0-100-0 in 12 seconds. Wow things have moved on
That's still very respectable today for non exotic stuff. That implies less than 10s to 100 which is still quick
I'd like a Carrera 4 as they're just so much more usable on UK roads thanks to the 4WD. Although the Targa 4S is also beautiful.
One of the best content from one of the best motor journalist. Well done Mat! Maybe we' ll see more hypercars battles.
Suuuuper video! Thanks! Would be awesome to do 911 vs 911 Carrera 4s
Anyone else want to see the base 911 with Cup2's go against the GT3? Cause I absolutely do!!
Omg another Porsche video !! Never would have guessed it.
Really awesome, thank you
This video is amazing! Keep up the work Carwow!
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Do velar r dynamic 550 hp drag race
I love all your videos, but more like this please
Love your style presenting such amazing challenge
Hey matt can you review the following cars
Mazda vision coupe
Jaguar cx 17
Jaguar xj electric
Faraday future ff91
Hyperion xp 1
Acura precision concept
Lincoln continental coach door
Jaguar xf facelift infotainment screen
Jaguar xj portfolio
Citroen metropolis
Ds9 numero concept
Tata evision
Which Tata car is that !?
Award of the most stupid request of the day 🏆
I get the argument about buying at either extreme of the range but I reckon the Carrera 4S is the sweet spot.
AWD, more power, better suspension...but the same clean design lines as the Carrera and still soft enough for a real world every day driver.
I always thought the base Carrera was the one to have. The GT3 sound and experience, plus near zero depreciation makes it the better ultimate buy.
Terrific comparison. Thank you.
We need a Model S Plaid vs Rimac Nevera!
people keep forgetting one important thing, that's 1.8 sec per lap! after 20 laps you're 36 seconds behind ;)
I really love your videos Matt! I am very happy to be here early today!
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GT4 is lovely on the road and on the track. Nice compromise between these two. My brother has one and it's just a great car. I'd have one too.
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Great video Mat!
Great review Matt. The entry level 911 is definitely value for money!
Good vidéo, nice to see an entry level 911, even metallic paint is missing but sports seats are present. 👍
Am I the only one that is SHOCKED at the standard 911's 0-60?! It s insanely quick for 385 hp
This is a great review!!!
I had 3 vehicle magazines but,I like these video. I'm loving it! So,the engines sounds good. Also my dad have Mercedes Benz GLC SUV.
Really enjoyed that video
I'd love to see a video with Matt, two Porsche 911's and David Coulthard race each other around a track.
I like that this video gives all you need in rather short time
Totally agree , base is all you need. I have a 996 too!
More, more !!! This kind of videos !
On Track !!!
Would love to see this comparison re done with the base model having a stage 1 remap and put some Michelins on it PS4S's now that would be fun!
£87,330 for the base Carrera with no options, and the cheapest GT3 that you can actually buy is currently £219,950.
Sound is something that purely justifies the 40 grand more!❤️
By the way....Mat we want more of these videos just like that!!👍
Amazing video my friend
Pretty good!...amazingly though those times for base 911 are the same as a corvette c5 z06!!
.....shows how good the z06 was back then!
Hi Mat
When you measure the quarter mile timing, do you include the one-foot rollout? I live in North America and the timings here always includes one foot rollout . Just trying to see if I am comparing apples to apples :-)
Soooo glad to see some track tests. I know drag racing is easier to setup, but tends to give a false impression of cars performance based purely on their quarter mile time.
That was fun! In the US, I think the Carrera S is the sweet spot in the 911 range, because you can get it with a stick.
Matt another great video
Excellent video.
Matt.. Porshe is my favorite Mark!!! I love your chanel .... Keep that mate😁😁😁😁
superb race like it
Such a great video and absolutely reinforces that I chose the right car. Love my humble Carrera. With equal tires it would have been even closer…
what I'm interested in is how much improvement to the laptimes if you put Cup 2s on the povo spec carrera?
How much of a role do the tyres play in the times? What would be the time difference on the same tyres? would be good if all track tests were done on the same tyres as they are an easy, relatively cheap modification to make that has no insurance implications. It might make a good video to find out? do this test again but switch the tyre selection around see if extra extra 40k is worth it or would it be best to just but a better pair of shoes.
Quick chip tuning brings that Carrera to same HP (500hp). Upgraded brakes from other Porsches ~5000euros. Pluss some exhaust tuning. :)
Brings that Carrera closer to GT3. And if you choose 4S Carrera, the 0-60 is even faster i think as awd>rwd.
What “quick” chip tuning are you referring to that would increase the base Carrera by 115hp? I’m not aware of any.
This seriously speaks very well for the base model!!!
Porsche fan, so I would love a comparison between the Turbo and the GT3. Also, would love a comparison between the new GT4 518 and its "brother" platforms, such as the Cayman and Boxter. An interesting comparison would be a base Taycan vs a base 911. Last but not least: a comparison between the GT4 and a 911 (GT3, Turbo or base version) :D
Just from how Mat acted while driving I can tell that you'd rather want to go for the GT3, sooo much more emotions.
Cayman GT4RS vs. GT3RS has a 10s ring difference despite same engine (Mischa reckons due to better multilink suspension etc).
Over a ring lap difference between these two would be insane