They tryna encourage people to just jump to higher speeds at this point tbh. I can double my internet speed for like £5 more than I pay for my current one.
It's good to have a big huge giant eagle and impress all of your friends because you have gigabit internet. Gigabit internet is to 20 20 what some fancy cell phone was back in 1998. You do it to show off!
I'm with my girlfriend in America and they have AT&T 500/500 and they have a 1 tb data cap. Like the only reason you want such speeds is for huge files, and its almost useless with a cap.
Well that sucks. My family and I totaled 1.7 TB last month (this month already 1.6 TB) and we only have 89 MBit/s actual download speed and 31 MBit/s up (contract states "up to 100 MBit/s down and 40 MBit/s up", so close enough). And really I use my PC a lot, though not overnight. If I really wanted I could download near 29 TB and our contract would let me, but that is just excessive for my usecase (and those of my family who only really stream videos occasionally when it comes to high volume). I mean that is like those stupid obsolete German 4G tariffs here I never cared. "Pay a shitton of money (like >20€/month) for 2 GB of fast internet mainly to get throttled faster, since you don't care about latency anyway and just use up your quota faster." I mean I get >5 GB LTE, but 1 or 2 GB seems pointless to me, since even with just 16 MBit/s (which ain't even fast for 4G) your quota would be exceeded in 8 to 17 minutes downloading at full speed... ...I have 20 now since more is a luxury here in Germany (many neighbor countries have unlimited or 60 GB tariffs on the cheap, but I can't change the market)...
@@dannycostello Yeah on Finland and Sweden it's about €15 for unlimited too. Sucks to live in Spain where I get 10GB for 10€, but I guess that's still better than in America and hey, I never fully spend my 10GB since I'm a casual user
But why is webhosting so expensive in Singapore? Asia carriers totally suck because you have to put a gun to their head before they start to cooperate with each other. Greetings from Thailand where we still have something like 100 GBit total out of the country.
Also note, the upload use-case only applies if the ISP wants you to have a high upload. I've seen most cable companies that do gigabit over cable have speeds like 1000 down / 25 up. So only the download is fast, the upload is barely faster if at all. Although, in theory, DOCSIS 3.1 can do 10Gb up and 1Gb down, but most do not have the infrastructure to do this. Fiber will typically give you 10Gb down and up.
Mr Vuck Fiacom its bottlenecked by your ISPs infrastructure and the rest of the networks that you’re accessing from your home, I’ve only been able to get close to 1Gbps down once and that was with Xbox live downloading a game, I was able to hold 850Mbps down for the full download and I’ve yet to see that speed again. So far it’s been a waste of my money in the grand scheme
@@Error_404_- You're right but it is no matter for me. I don't use Internet for anything that requires low latency/ping. In other hand, 4g gives me mobility and it's good :)
Damn. Where do y'all live. Jesus christ that's slow. I'm in MD. A game typically takes 2 to maybe 3 hours at worse case scenario. Thats a 50 gig game like GTA
1) 25Mbit required for 4k video != 25Mbit going through the wire. (due to additional expenses on the transport layer) 2) 4 users, utilizing 25Mbit each != 100Mbit in total (due to collisions, packets being re-sent, etc) 3) You bandwidth does have something to do with the latency. ESPs use traffic shaping to limit the bandwidth and it has dramatic effect on your latency. 4) 100Mbit on ESP's contract stated as 'up-to' 100Mbit, which means that you almost never have it during the peak times (like after work).
@@d4wnnnn Lmao you poor but you prefer to pay $120 a year for Spotify over buying your music? If you spent that on buying the albums you like, on average the average person doesn't really follow more than say 10 bands, so in about 5 years you'd have bought all of the music you will ever listen to in your lifetime, and in the process have saved a TON of money.
@@mikkelens Seriously? It looks like you're one of the lucky ones who have such high speeds that they think everything needs more speed than it really does (like Bill Gates and the price of goods). I can watch 1440p with 8 Mb/s... 20 Mb/s is more than enough to watch 4K!
You are absolutely correct somebody doing video editing or someone address when using AutoCAD or something like that business-related could use gigabit internet but other than that it's not necessary in any way fashion or form
The purpose of me getting gigabit is to save money. Cox charged me 100$ plus 10$ modem for 150Mbps while centurylink offered gigabit for $65 price for life without that 10$ modem monthly fee. That’s 45$ saved for 6x the speed.
One important fact that you sort of glossed over is the upload speed of connection. My present connection, 480Mbps down and 10Mbps up is as you say way more download speed than I need right now. But the upload speed of only 10Mbps that Comcast offers is horrible. We are talking days, like almost five to backup my system to a cloud server whenever I need a full backup and not just an incremental. I believe upload speed with one gigabit down, is still only 35Mbps, so probably still over a day.
I remember the days of 56k modems (we where lucky to have a 56k modem) and it would take hours to download a single mp3 or a very rare patch file for a game that was a whole 50-125Mb and it would take all day. I miss those days.
In Lithuania 100mbps costs around 8$ , 1000mbps costs ~19$ .Mostly cheaper depends on provider , what package you take and if they put package on sale.
Game streaming from your home computer remotely via something like Parsec is a great example of a use-case where gigabit internet can be useful. Although upstream speeds won't be gigabit on a "gigabit" package, but it should be faster than the lower tiers.
It's True. I have Gigabit and most of the time there isn't a drastic difference from surfing the web or watching videos on my 100mbps 4G phone connection. But... the occasional game download from steam that is over 20 Gigs is mighty nice. My record was 108MegaBYTES per second download. Which is insane because I remember dialup would of taken literally an entire day for 100MB.
Excellent video! My local LAN is gigabit and I'm transferring 15-35GB files from a desktop in one room (A8-5600K/SSD) to a kodi server (i7-2600/SSD+HDD) in another room. The server is 2 rooms away. I get an average of around 70-80MB/s. I smiled when you mentioned big files on Steam because this is the only time I've ever felt my 10Mbs up/25Mbs down was a bit too slow. We have an Android box also 2 rooms away from the DSL modem and I've never had any buffering issues while connected to the LAN (1080p TV). Really going to have to set up a proxy server just for the Steam games. ;-)
1Gbps is needed when u have at least 5 devices connected to the Wi-Fi, with approx 3 PC and a smart tv too. When all is running tgt, the bandwidth needed is A LOT. Maybe not 1Gbps but it's good to have extra bandwidth for your updates, games, whatsoever
Excellent video with actual numbers for the average person. Everything said is on point; however, there are a couple things you may want to add based on my own experience. 1. Bragging rights. People freak out when they see how much I get on symmetrical upload AND download speeds. The ones in the know also know how much money I am wasting in their perception. 2. Most importantly, and WHY I opted for gigabit: Data limits. If I chose a slower tier my total data is capped at one Tb. Not good if you want to download over the course of time. When I subscribed to Gb, the data cap is gone and I therefore have UNLIMITED. This is great for the reasons above backups and game downloads, especially simultaneous use versus my wife's Netflix addiction. I generally hit 2+ Tb a month. A slower speed offers unlimited at an additional $30 per month. The speed I need plus unlimited means it is cheaper to just get Gb. 3. Did I mention bragging rights?
The game download and cloud backup use cases are true. Another thing to consider is whether the connection is symmetrical or asymmetrical. Most connections are the latter and the upstream is usually a fraction of the downstream speeds and can actually affect downstream speeds as the connection becomes saturated with upstream traffic. You find this out really fast when you're playing a game like Battlefield 1 and streaming when suddenly you notice that your latency to the same game server goes from 90ms to 350ms because you're saturating your connection with upstream traffic. It's also been true for a very long time that the speed of your downstream connection has little to nothing to do with what you're connecting to. If a server is on a slow connection or overloaded the gigabit connection won't help you at all. Me, I'd be happy with a 150/10 at this point but it's expensive as hell.
We just got ultra-high speed Internet in my town. I was going to get 500 mbps, but after I watched this, I'll get 100 mbps. As I'm retired, divorced, and live alone and mostly stream movies, sporting events, and TV shows.
ThioJoe, You may really good argument for who needs GigabitEthernet. As a network engineer, the more people you have more bandwidth you need. Even though you may only saturate 1/3 or 1/2 of the connection, but having that extra bandwidth will allow for you continue to use the connection simultaneously. I have seen many times where i would have 2 people in my house hold downloading games, and another person is unable to stream. It is all about your use case scenario. Either Way I like your argument. Keep up the good work.
6:06 but you can download lots of services at the same time from different servers onto your 1GB into your Server/PC. So even if the 1 provider allows 55MBs and another 55MB and another at XXXMB...etc you can fill your download connection quick from multiple servers.
You should try and connect with EPB in Chattanooga, TN we have had gigabit internet for years. I utilize it for video editing everyday. EPB is also our electric utility company. If a power line goes down, they can re-route power to the most customers as possible until the power line is repaired. I’m sure you could reach out and get an interview with someone high up. Could be fun way to explore practical applications that utilize connectivity.
Gucci Ghozt Lebanon, Beirut. Middle east. Here we already have the fiber optics infrastructure since about 2012 but there's too much corruption, the government wont turn it on for the benifit of some private and public sectors. We still use Copper wires and others similar to conduct internet and the maximum speed you can get is about 8Mbps for about a 100USD/month. A gaming lounge nearby has 40Mbps speed for 800USD/month. You can tell the benifits they're onto. The public doesn't know the difference between the prices here and in the west, and the're all blinded and being robbed. Lebanon: Great people + shit politicians.
"You'll never get the full internet speed from your internet provider", wrong, if you get your own modem and router, you'd actually clock at higher than what they give you. You just some real nice equipments. If you use theirs you'll never get to half of the speed you pay for.
The biggest con in the networking industry is marketing that implies more bandwidth = faster internet. It is very rare for a family of 4 to ever practically need more than 250 Mbps. This allows for multiple 4k devices to stream at once with no buffering. It is more important to look at upload speeds when choosing your ISP since generally that is way more constrained. Edit: The newest con is with more bandwidth you can use Zoom while kid plays games. Hah!
Actually you were being kind : As I'm typing this, I'm watching your video in 1080 HD in China, obviously through an encrypted VPN, using a University campus' very slow (1 Mbps would be a good day !) wifi signal - yet I've watched it without it buffering even for a splitsecond, and this is normal. So, I'd say, when I return home, I will simply settle for a good fibre optic connection to my house, and not have to worry about contention ratios and speed variations etc. As you said, you truly do not really need any significantly fast signal.
here i share my observations, feel free to add/correct; 1- since people are uneducated about uses of upload band, companies offer it pretty low. but backing up, sending files, HD video calls, youtube uploads and healthy twitch broadcasting requires that instead. 2- while downloading small data like pages and small files, the kbits increase gradually and will be already completed before you hit quarter your band limit. 3- while browsing, your request will take time to travel. and server will spend some time to process your request/page. and it will take some time to arrive again. which are often longer than the transfer time anyway. 4- depending on time of day you might be never able to hit your unrealistic limit due economic ISP infrastructure. 5- if you are using wifi, especially if there are multiple wifi signals around you, forget above 10 mbits So 50 mbit down 16 up should be optimal for daily use(?)
Docsis 3.1/gigabit certified cable tech here. I wish more people shared the same mentality as you. That would save on a lot of the ridiculous calls I go on.
Send A Raven nothings wrong with it. It’s just simply more susceptible to noise an no mso has successfully implanted full duplex. Most 3.1 schemes still use a combination of ofdm carrier and single qam carriers.
MC273 MC It’s actually a “Server” Basically it is MY SERVER, but I don’t have the server PHYSICALLY in my house..... it’s there in a Datacenter there are many server providers, just google and you can get many server providers, some even provide 10Gbit or 10000Mbps speed. I was thinking to upgrade, but then I never did..... lol
Everything in the home is connected nowadays. You need enough bandwidth for all your connected devices to work flawlessly at the same time. You don’t want to have to wait for a large file to finish downloading before you can start stream a 4K movie or show. Think about it! Your home security system is uploading video of your property to the cloud, while your daughter is downloading a huge file for a school project while watching TH-cam 4K and all your smart TVs, desktops, laptops, tablets, smart fridge and game consoles are downloading and updating in the background while you are streaming Hulu or amazon prime and your wife is streaming cooking shows on her tablet. And all of this is going on at the same time flawlessly.
Greetings from Germany, where most private users can't even get 1Gb because there is just no optical fibre cable. I am very lucky to get 100 Mbit with vectoring because many people here dont even receive 100Mbit.
My answer? I upgraded to FTTR (fibe to the router [modem]) and 1.5Gbps down/1Gbps up was only $12/month more than the 250Mbps plan and has the same locked rate given I don't change anything on the bill. Total for 1.5Gbit in Canada you may ask?? $95CAD/month
I have a Comcast Business 150/25 connection. I do move massive amounts of data in and out of this network day in and day out. Lots of data between servers in my network and customer networks moves around. Lots of streaming media too. Considering the sources and destinations and analysis of my firewall traffic, I would love to have 150/150 or perhaps a wet dream of 300/300. It's really the current 25 Mbps out that's a stick in my craw. 1-Gb seems useless to me.
i’ve had 0.18 mbps, 25mbps, and now i have 1 gbps and i can tell you i was never able to watch a video in 1080p without buffering for 20 minutes, 1 gbps is sooo worth it
Subscribed! Kudos for making this video. Could you also please make a video on IPv6 versus IPv4. It's very important for everyone to understand this. IPv6, i.e. Internet Protocol version 6 is in many ways a lot better, including better internet security etc,, than the older IPv4. Many Internet Service Providers are still not upgrading to IPv6. Armed with this knowledge, one can choose the right ISP, internet plan etc. Looking forward to this soon. Thank you and best wishes.
You're gonna need a really good wired router, good ethernet cables, a fast computer, and most importantly, the fastest storage available. A pro M.2 SSD should work, but I was able to saturate a gig using a ramdisk of my system memory. It fills up quickly and you end up offloading to slower SSDs, then spinning drives, but you can do that concurrently for the most part.
When you have 15+ devices on your network with multiple 4K streams, online gaming, smart home devices, and smartphones. That won’t saturate the connection but it makes sure you don’t come close to running out of bandwidth
Im watching this in end of 2023, i just upgraded to 1gb internet speeds with spectrum. Even though we are only a 4 family household, it is well worth it! We all stream 4k at once, i sometimes play intensive games that require a good connection like gta online and Cod warzone and multiplayer. With the game pass, you stream games without having to download it, before it would lag or lose quality, that was with 400mbps, now i can stream games like they are locally stored in my console or in my PC. My movies download in seconds compared to 10+ minutes. Its awesome. At least for me and my family, its worth it. Again this is going into 2024 lol I no longer get blamed for stealing all the internet while gaming 🤣
in Germany we have Super Vectoring which is VDSL with 250 Mbps down and 50 Mbps up, but only if your DSL connection is close enough to the node wich doesn't happen very often.
Awesome and very true aside from the never getting your full speed from your ISP. I work for an ISP and we provision above advertised speeds solely so people will hit #'s on speed tests (although they have no idea how the internet works or what the "speeds" mean). For example I have a 400 mbps connection provisioned ~435 and I regularly hit 420. Of course with a wired connection (no ISP in thier right mind would advertise wifi speeds- if they do you should look elsewhere) and compatible hardware and wiring. But everything else, spot on!
The upload speeds are small fraction of download speeds, the slowest connection in here that would be fast enough to stream 4k from home to internet is 1Gbit. Another issue is that what speeds are available to your location, are there anything else between 100Mbit and 1Gbit. Linux users will have bi-yearly every single piece of software is available to upgrade at the time of your choosing. Majority of use cases for faster internet is trading money to save time, so if you make more money and use internet a lot then the small increments of time saved is worth it.
I got along until just a few years ago with 5mbps/1mbps. It was a bit rough at times, but it was certainly doable. As it stands I have about 50/30 and that's really just fine. I honestly don't think the average household needs more than 100 down unless it's a large family (5 or more people) all on at once. (note that I'm talking the real mbps that you actually get, not the advertised theoretical maximum)
I know what I'm doing, I do network engineering and it was tricky getting gigabit to work in my household to work at the full potential. I have a fully wired house and running a linux vm for our router (On an esxi box) and I had to change setting on my switch and other places to get this thing working at it's full rate. I do bet the gigabit wireless access points are also a bit shitty. (I'm using an enterprise ubiquity wireless network but didn't expect it to fully get gig speeds as non of my laptops/phones can handle that shit.) It is nice having the better upload bandwidth. I was able to connect to my home computer from work and edit video and use Photoshop and it was glorious. Also been downloading big-ass files.
My upgrade to gigabit is gonna be completely free of charge, next month, so I'm taking it, because why not! My ISP is Wind-Tre, by the way, for other Italians that are reading this!
The worst thing about ISP's around here is the 1TB data cap regardless of speed. If I actually had a 1gbps connection I could cap that in a few hours. Hell I get kinda close sometimes with my 25mb connection that I pay basically nothing for. I just run pfsense QoS to keep the internet running consistently ok even when downloading. I also just changed my mindset of "I NEED THIS NOW" to I'll start it before bed the day before and by the time I get home from work tomorrow it'll be done. When I had roommates we had an agreement to not stream 4k netflix because we were consistently close to the 1TB data cap even just streaming at 1080.
I’m using 500/Mbps (62.5 MBs) download and upload, it is enough for me when it comes to streaming, download/uploading big files and games. A friend of mine has 5Mbps shared with 4 others so he basically gets nothing out of his connection and his ISP isn't allowed to upgrade his Internet connection because of some stupid rules between the different ISPs in Norway.
What we need is for these companies to properly maintain their infrastructure, and contract a Minimum guaranteed bandwidth up AND down. Not placing 20 home into one line for us to share bandwidth.
Getting 300Mbit via fibre next year. Currently at 4G 10Mbit, and it is too slow in many cases. Downloading MS FS 2020 takes like forever... But if you are patient you can manage :) The most important part is to be able to stream a video. That is the minum speed I need when alone really. But right now my son and his friend is hogging all the bandwidth :)
One thing not discussed is data caps. I recently left Comcast due to their 1tb limit and switched to CenturyLink fiber. $65 a month at 1 gig, with price locked for life and no data cap.
In Spain, after you run out of your monthly bandwidth limit, on mobile, they let you browse indefinitely at 16 kbs for free, which may not sound like a lot because it isn't but the two most popular chat apps (Telegram and WhatsApp) surprisingly deliver text messages instantly at 16 kbs so you have that. Sending or receiving pictures or videos or browsing the web is a big no-no though.
Meanwhile I have 10mbps and it took me 4 days to download GTA
I have 4Mbps dude😭
@@SheharyarN I feel your pain it takes a week to download updates for any game
I get 2 to 4, and have to share with a family. 10 sounds like a dream come true.
@@tims1686 im downloading apex legends at the moment and it takes like 15hours or so
I know your pain. I just haul my PC over to a friend's house and download there.
I like how the price of 15 Mbps plans keep going up.
They tryna encourage people to just jump to higher speeds at this point tbh. I can double my internet speed for like £5 more than I pay for my current one.
@@akiravrz8639 Why don't you do that then?
Spectrum doesn't even offer 15mbps in my area anymore. If you aren't paying them at least $50/ month they aren't happy.
I have 1 mbps and it costs as much as a at&t fiber plan
I have 36 mbps
"My internet is too fast" said no-one ever....
Only if the price is too high
actually did I said it yesterday when I realised my HDD cant even Download with 1gigabit
When you have to pay the internet bill you will.
Drauss001 - Correction: Said no-one in USA ever, because you can't afford it :)
Only if you're paying for that speed but getting way less.
"You need gigabit to brag" - a man who has gigabit
It's good to have a big huge giant eagle and impress all of your friends because you have gigabit internet. Gigabit internet is to 20 20 what some fancy cell phone was back in 1998. You do it to show off!
I'm with my girlfriend in America and they have AT&T 500/500 and they have a 1 tb data cap. Like the only reason you want such speeds is for huge files, and its almost useless with a cap.
*it's (not possessive)
Well that sucks. My family and I totaled 1.7 TB last month (this month already 1.6 TB) and we only have 89 MBit/s actual download speed and 31 MBit/s up (contract states "up to 100 MBit/s down and 40 MBit/s up", so close enough). And really I use my PC a lot, though not overnight. If I really wanted I could download near 29 TB and our contract would let me, but that is just excessive for my usecase (and those of my family who only really stream videos occasionally when it comes to high volume).
I mean that is like those stupid obsolete German 4G tariffs here I never cared.
"Pay a shitton of money (like >20€/month) for 2 GB of fast internet mainly to get throttled faster, since you don't care about latency anyway and just use up your quota faster."
I mean I get >5 GB LTE, but 1 or 2 GB seems pointless to me, since even with just 16 MBit/s (which ain't even fast for 4G) your quota would be exceeded in 8 to 17 minutes downloading at full speed...
...I have 20 now since more is a luxury here in Germany (many neighbor countries have unlimited or 60 GB tariffs on the cheap, but I can't change the market)...
For fee, you can get unlimited data
@@aoelp in the UK its £20 for unlimited and uncapped data
@@dannycostello Yeah on Finland and Sweden it's about €15 for unlimited too. Sucks to live in Spain where I get 10GB for 10€, but I guess that's still better than in America and hey, I never fully spend my 10GB since I'm a casual user
AT&T promised us gigabit. Now we're stuck in a contract, for a scam.
The title actually makes human sense
I be lucky if I get 20mbps in 2019.
I'll be pleased if I get 1-2 Mbps
RIP
Ikr,
That's like $80 Canadian.
my inter net is 2 mbps and it is fucking trash
We can't even get anything lower than 1Gbps in Singapore
@Young Entrepreneur In Singapore it's about SGD40 ≈ USD30
@@limcheehean lol, now Singapore no more any internet plan slower than that? so sad I am in Malaysia.
Your lucky and I'm jealous af.
@@limcheehean I pay that much for 25mbps in the US (3mbps up)
But why is webhosting so expensive in Singapore? Asia carriers totally suck because you have to put a gun to their head before they start to cooperate with each other. Greetings from Thailand where we still have something like 100 GBit total out of the country.
Also note, the upload use-case only applies if the ISP wants you to have a high upload. I've seen most cable companies that do gigabit over cable have speeds like 1000 down / 25 up. So only the download is fast, the upload is barely faster if at all. Although, in theory, DOCSIS 3.1 can do 10Gb up and 1Gb down, but most do not have the infrastructure to do this. Fiber will typically give you 10Gb down and up.
1000 mbps, thats so 2015, im on 5000 mbps fiber 😉
I had connnection speed 100 mbps in 2017. And it was sufficient for all my tasks. I have no wired internet connection at all for now. I use only 4G.
@@damian_stephens your latency/jitter is probably garbage on 4g
They offer 2gbps in my area already, so you're not too far off. Fiber is what we really need, gigabit is a bit bottlenecked by cable imo.
Mr Vuck Fiacom its bottlenecked by your ISPs infrastructure and the rest of the networks that you’re accessing from your home, I’ve only been able to get close to 1Gbps down once and that was with Xbox live downloading a game, I was able to hold 850Mbps down for the full download and I’ve yet to see that speed again. So far it’s been a waste of my money in the grand scheme
@@Error_404_- You're right but it is no matter for me. I don't use Internet for anything that requires low latency/ping.
In other hand, 4g gives me mobility and it's good :)
Gigabit also usually has unlimited data caps, whereas 100Mb might cap at 1TB. Also, upload speeds for gigabit will be significantly higher.
Game Pass does not give you access to their entire library of games....
Waiting an hour to down load a game is my dream. It took me 12 hours + to download rainbow 6 siege
it took me a week to download rocket league :(
Damn. Where do y'all live. Jesus christ that's slow. I'm in MD. A game typically takes 2 to maybe 3 hours at worse case scenario. Thats a 50 gig game like GTA
It took me almost a month do download GTA lol
sakawa I can download it in just a few minutes
sakawa it took me at least 1 hour and 30 mins, to download gta v so I mean good internet
1) 25Mbit required for 4k video != 25Mbit going through the wire. (due to additional expenses on the transport layer)
2) 4 users, utilizing 25Mbit each != 100Mbit in total (due to collisions, packets being re-sent, etc)
3) You bandwidth does have something to do with the latency. ESPs use traffic shaping to limit the bandwidth and it has dramatic effect on your latency.
4) 100Mbit on ESP's contract stated as 'up-to' 100Mbit, which means that you almost never have it during the peak times (like after work).
100%
What about terabit internet???🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 should we get it or not...
I’ll wait for Zetabit
Pranta Biswas nah, 2060
@@trolllol7264 ill wait for xelbit 1,000,000,000,000gb lol im living in 4019
Petabit
Buyers beware of Perle, Amazon, Verasity, Planet and so on unless you want to be hacked and stolen into not fun.
"as good as iTunes" lol. I stopped using that horrid thing years ago.
Spotify or soundcloud
@@d4wnnnn Or just buy your music and own it forever....
@@DerrickRG nah im poor
@@DerrickRG or just use youtube like a normal person
@@d4wnnnn Lmao you poor but you prefer to pay $120 a year for Spotify over buying your music? If you spent that on buying the albums you like, on average the average person doesn't really follow more than say 10 bands, so in about 5 years you'd have bought all of the music you will ever listen to in your lifetime, and in the process have saved a TON of money.
Man I need it 😢 you will be shocked to know that I'm even in 2019 ha a speed of 400kbps
I'll be happy even if it rises to 1mbps
I just upgraded from 3Mbps DSL to a 1Gbps connection and it seems much faster. I don't have to watch videos in 360p anymore.
I feel you f Verizon .. am stuck at 7mps upload 0.56
@@mikkelens Seriously? It looks like you're one of the lucky ones who have such high speeds that they think everything needs more speed than it really does (like Bill Gates and the price of goods). I can watch 1440p with 8 Mb/s... 20 Mb/s is more than enough to watch 4K!
You're not alone
You are absolutely correct somebody doing video editing or someone address when using AutoCAD or something like that business-related could use gigabit internet but other than that it's not necessary in any way fashion or form
The purpose of me getting gigabit is to save money. Cox charged me 100$ plus 10$ modem for 150Mbps while centurylink offered gigabit for $65 price for life without that 10$ modem monthly fee. That’s 45$ saved for 6x the speed.
“Have to wait one hour that sucks” I wait 2 days on ADSL 2+ in Australia
Does your merch ship to Antarctica?
🤔
One important fact that you sort of glossed over is the upload speed of connection. My present connection, 480Mbps down and 10Mbps up is as you say way more download speed than I need right now. But the upload speed of only 10Mbps that Comcast offers is horrible. We are talking days, like almost five to backup my system to a cloud server whenever I need a full backup and not just an incremental. I believe upload speed with one gigabit down, is still only 35Mbps, so probably still over a day.
How to upgrade your PS3 into a PS4 for free!
Put a sticker with 4 on it over the 3
@@darrenwoloshyn hack my ps4 and send files to ur ps3 to download
I remember the days of 56k modems (we where lucky to have a 56k modem) and it would take hours to download a single mp3 or a very rare patch file for a game that was a whole 50-125Mb and it would take all day. I miss those days.
Meanwhile Linus got a 10 gbit connection
Which he needs
In Lithuania 100mbps costs around 8$ , 1000mbps costs ~19$ .Mostly cheaper depends on provider , what package you take and if they put package on sale.
And I'm here buffering at 144p
And here, I have 650Mbps download with 950Upload
Im at 480p 😭😭😭
I have 720p maximum
Game streaming from your home computer remotely via something like Parsec is a great example of a use-case where gigabit internet can be useful. Although upstream speeds won't be gigabit on a "gigabit" package, but it should be faster than the lower tiers.
lmao, 3 Mb/s by a trillion dollar company?
* MB/s
SpeedRebirth no it’s Mb/s internet speeds are measured in bits not bytes, so megabits, which is Mb. Megabytes is MB.
Haha lol i use etisalat and it downloads at 2 MB/s
What company btw
Here in Toronto, Canada 1GB up and down costs 100 bucks CAD. Worth getting it in my opinion, more power is better! Great video!
How to download Gigibit internet?
Just find a file that is 1GB and download it! ISP's don't want you to know this one simple trick!
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It's True. I have Gigabit and most of the time there isn't a drastic difference from surfing the web or watching videos on my 100mbps 4G phone connection.
But... the occasional game download from steam that is over 20 Gigs is mighty nice. My record was 108MegaBYTES per second download. Which is insane because I remember dialup would of taken literally an entire day for 100MB.
And here I am with my 1mbps download speed and 0.1mbps upload speed.
Excellent video! My local LAN is gigabit and I'm transferring 15-35GB files from a desktop in one room (A8-5600K/SSD) to a kodi server (i7-2600/SSD+HDD) in another room. The server is 2 rooms away. I get an average of around 70-80MB/s.
I smiled when you mentioned big files on Steam because this is the only time I've ever felt my 10Mbs up/25Mbs down was a bit too slow. We have an Android box also 2 rooms away from the DSL modem and I've never had any buffering issues while connected to the LAN (1080p TV).
Really going to have to set up a proxy server just for the Steam games. ;-)
in switzerland you get 10 Gigabit for 60 Dollars
100mbps for $70 California
Spane Boswell wtf i get that with my 4g phone wifi in switzerland 😂
You Swiss people get it. Greetings from Denmark 💪
Spane Boswell you got spectum dont you🤣
And I have 1Gbit/s in Romania ,for just 15 bucks
1Gbps is needed when u have at least 5 devices connected to the Wi-Fi, with approx 3 PC and a smart tv too. When all is running tgt, the bandwidth needed is A LOT. Maybe not 1Gbps but it's good to have extra bandwidth for your updates, games, whatsoever
I am. currently saving money for 25 Mbps
Excellent video with actual numbers for the average person. Everything said is on point; however, there are a couple things you may want to add based on my own experience.
1. Bragging rights. People freak out when they see how much I get on symmetrical upload AND download speeds. The ones in the know also know how much money I am wasting in their perception.
2. Most importantly, and WHY I opted for gigabit: Data limits. If I chose a slower tier my total data is capped at one Tb. Not good if you want to download over the course of time. When I subscribed to Gb, the data cap is gone and I therefore have UNLIMITED. This is great for the reasons above backups and game downloads, especially simultaneous use versus my wife's Netflix addiction. I generally hit 2+ Tb a month. A slower speed offers unlimited at an additional $30 per month. The speed I need plus unlimited means it is cheaper to just get Gb.
3. Did I mention bragging rights?
I'm happy when I get 5mbs lol
We are in the process of getting a 1 gig line as we need the upload speed to do more with our internet as we livestream.
Watching this while the at&t tech wires up my 1gig internet
yeah ive just upgraded from a 100mb to a 1gb this week
The game download and cloud backup use cases are true. Another thing to consider is whether the connection is symmetrical or asymmetrical. Most connections are the latter and the upstream is usually a fraction of the downstream speeds and can actually affect downstream speeds as the connection becomes saturated with upstream traffic. You find this out really fast when you're playing a game like Battlefield 1 and streaming when suddenly you notice that your latency to the same game server goes from 90ms to 350ms because you're saturating your connection with upstream traffic. It's also been true for a very long time that the speed of your downstream connection has little to nothing to do with what you're connecting to. If a server is on a slow connection or overloaded the gigabit connection won't help you at all. Me, I'd be happy with a 150/10 at this point but it's expensive as hell.
Well here in Sweden (best internet in the world , thats true) You can get 1200mbits Fiber for 76€ per month
In Romania, 1Gbit is 13 euros.
In Romania, you can get 10Gbps for like 10€/month, and pay attention, symmetrical 10G/10G
We just got ultra-high speed Internet in my town. I was going to get 500 mbps, but after I watched this, I'll get 100 mbps. As I'm retired, divorced, and live alone and mostly stream movies, sporting events, and TV shows.
ThioJoe, You may really good argument for who needs GigabitEthernet. As a network engineer, the more people you have more bandwidth you need. Even though you may only saturate 1/3 or 1/2 of the connection, but having that extra bandwidth will allow for you continue to use the connection simultaneously. I have seen many times where i would have 2 people in my house hold downloading games, and another person is unable to stream. It is all about your use case scenario. Either Way I like your argument. Keep up the good work.
*thanks to European law of Internet, The ISPs are forced to provide as much as highest internet speed*
@Dr. Fresh_2k Stupid, go back to your farm idiot. More bandwidth, the better.
6:06 but you can download lots of services at the same time from different servers onto your 1GB into your Server/PC. So even if the 1 provider allows 55MBs and another 55MB and another at XXXMB...etc you can fill your download connection quick from multiple servers.
*Watches video about gigabit internet on 2mb/s internet*...
You should try and connect with EPB in Chattanooga, TN we have had gigabit internet for years. I utilize it for video editing everyday. EPB is also our electric utility company. If a power line goes down, they can re-route power to the most customers as possible until the power line is repaired. I’m sure you could reach out and get an interview with someone high up. Could be fun way to explore practical applications that utilize connectivity.
I have 5 Mbps and I pay 15$ for it 😖
man i feel bad for you
I have 4Mbps and pay 40$/month for it. REEEEE
With a 6gb limit per day😝
Bilal Hamdanieh Where do you live? Here close to LA it’s 45$ a month for gigabit
Gucci Ghozt Lebanon, Beirut. Middle east. Here we already have the fiber optics infrastructure since about 2012 but there's too much corruption, the government wont turn it on for the benifit of some private and public sectors. We still use Copper wires and others similar to conduct internet and the maximum speed you can get is about 8Mbps for about a 100USD/month. A gaming lounge nearby has 40Mbps speed for 800USD/month. You can tell the benifits they're onto. The public doesn't know the difference between the prices here and in the west, and the're all blinded and being robbed. Lebanon: Great people + shit politicians.
"You'll never get the full internet speed from your internet provider", wrong, if you get your own modem and router, you'd actually clock at higher than what they give you. You just some real nice equipments. If you use theirs you'll never get to half of the speed you pay for.
9mb takes about an hour on 2g
The biggest con in the networking industry is marketing that implies more bandwidth = faster internet. It is very rare for a family of 4 to ever practically need more than 250 Mbps. This allows for multiple 4k devices to stream at once with no buffering. It is more important to look at upload speeds when choosing your ISP since generally that is way more constrained.
Edit: The newest con is with more bandwidth you can use Zoom while kid plays games. Hah!
Would be nice, but don't really need it
Actually you were being kind : As I'm typing this, I'm watching your video in 1080 HD in China, obviously through an encrypted VPN, using a University campus' very slow (1 Mbps would be a good day !) wifi signal - yet I've watched it without it buffering even for a splitsecond, and this is normal. So, I'd say, when I return home, I will simply settle for a good fibre optic connection to my house, and not have to worry about contention ratios and speed variations etc. As you said, you truly do not really need any significantly fast signal.
I'll stick to my 50/10 Mbps connection.
here i share my observations, feel free to add/correct;
1- since people are uneducated about uses of upload band, companies offer it pretty low. but backing up, sending files, HD video calls, youtube uploads and healthy twitch broadcasting requires that instead.
2- while downloading small data like pages and small files, the kbits increase gradually and will be already completed before you hit quarter your band limit.
3- while browsing, your request will take time to travel. and server will spend some time to process your request/page. and it will take some time to arrive again. which are often longer than the transfer time anyway.
4- depending on time of day you might be never able to hit your unrealistic limit due economic ISP infrastructure.
5- if you are using wifi, especially if there are multiple wifi signals around you, forget above 10 mbits
So 50 mbit down 16 up should be optimal for daily use(?)
i dont even get 10 mbps in downloading wth
In France, we're so late on the Internet speeds ; Gigabit speed is just a myth at this point.
meanwhile i dont even have 1mbps.
@Bobby Tarantino damn, thats really slow :O
@Bobby Tarantino are you sure that there isnt anything slowing it down
Roshan yep, 2G connection ?
Docsis 3.1/gigabit certified cable tech here. I wish more people shared the same mentality as you. That would save on a lot of the ridiculous calls I go on.
What's wrong with Docsis 3.1
Send A Raven nothings wrong with it. It’s just simply more susceptible to noise an no mso has successfully implanted full duplex. Most 3.1 schemes still use a combination of ofdm carrier and single qam carriers.
Since I host a server i desperately need more upload speed.
Darn AT&T with 5 MBps upload >:(
MC273 MC LoL my server
650Mbps download and 950 Mbps upload
Cio Dokop what isp?
MC273 MC
It’s actually a “Server”
Basically it is MY SERVER, but I don’t have the server PHYSICALLY in my house..... it’s there in a Datacenter
there are many server providers, just google and you can get many server providers, some even provide 10Gbit or 10000Mbps speed.
I was thinking to upgrade, but then I never did..... lol
Everything in the home is connected nowadays. You need enough bandwidth for all your connected devices to work flawlessly at the same time. You don’t want to have to wait for a large file to finish downloading before you can start stream a 4K movie or show. Think about it! Your home security system is uploading video of your property to the cloud, while your daughter is downloading a huge file for a school project while watching TH-cam 4K and all your smart TVs, desktops, laptops, tablets, smart fridge and game consoles are downloading and updating in the background while you are streaming Hulu or amazon prime and your wife is streaming cooking shows on her tablet. And all of this is going on at the same time flawlessly.
Boring Idiot agreed that makes so much sense
I have 20mbps 4g connection that I game on, and it's absolutely fine. 1000mbps is so overkill.
Greetings from Germany, where most private users can't even get 1Gb because there is just no optical fibre cable. I am very lucky to get 100 Mbit with vectoring because many people here dont even receive 100Mbit.
My answer?
I upgraded to FTTR (fibe to the router [modem]) and 1.5Gbps down/1Gbps up was only $12/month more than the 250Mbps plan and has the same locked rate given I don't change anything on the bill.
Total for 1.5Gbit in Canada you may ask?? $95CAD/month
I have a Comcast Business 150/25 connection. I do move massive amounts of data in and out of this network day in and day out. Lots of data between servers in my network and customer networks moves around. Lots of streaming media too.
Considering the sources and destinations and analysis of my firewall traffic, I would love to have 150/150 or perhaps a wet dream of 300/300. It's really the current 25 Mbps out that's a stick in my craw.
1-Gb seems useless to me.
i’ve had 0.18 mbps, 25mbps, and now i have 1 gbps and i can tell you i was never able to watch a video in 1080p without buffering for 20 minutes, 1 gbps is sooo worth it
Subscribed! Kudos for making this video. Could you also please make a video on IPv6 versus IPv4. It's very important for everyone to understand this. IPv6, i.e. Internet Protocol version 6 is in many ways a lot better, including better internet security etc,, than the older IPv4. Many Internet Service Providers are still not upgrading to IPv6. Armed with this knowledge, one can choose the right ISP, internet plan etc. Looking forward to this soon. Thank you and best wishes.
IPFS full node 24/7. That's why I want gigabit+. Contributing to uncensorable storage for all is worth it.
Very good Video!
Was actually thinking of upgrading to Gigabit internet. Never occurred to me the other side would limit you.
I always get above 90% of the advertised speed at peak hours and other times it’s faster than the advertised speed
You're gonna need a really good wired router, good ethernet cables, a fast computer, and most importantly, the fastest storage available. A pro M.2 SSD should work, but I was able to saturate a gig using a ramdisk of my system memory. It fills up quickly and you end up offloading to slower SSDs, then spinning drives, but you can do that concurrently for the most part.
1 game in 1 minute? Definitely not Modern Warfare.
When you have 15+ devices on your network with multiple 4K streams, online gaming, smart home devices, and smartphones. That won’t saturate the connection but it makes sure you don’t come close to running out of bandwidth
Im watching this in end of 2023, i just upgraded to 1gb internet speeds with spectrum. Even though we are only a 4 family household, it is well worth it! We all stream 4k at once, i sometimes play intensive games that require a good connection like gta online and Cod warzone and multiplayer. With the game pass, you stream games without having to download it, before it would lag or lose quality, that was with 400mbps, now i can stream games like they are locally stored in my console or in my PC. My movies download in seconds compared to 10+ minutes.
Its awesome. At least for me and my family, its worth it. Again this is going into 2024 lol
I no longer get blamed for stealing all the internet while gaming 🤣
I agree. I only have 40 on wifi and I don't have any buffering. What I do need more is upload speed.
You will definitely need it to livestream videogames to youtube though considering how inconsistent DSL can be.
It’s very useful for Photographers and Video Producers where uploading and downloading is a frequent practice.
in Germany we have Super Vectoring which is VDSL with 250 Mbps down and 50 Mbps up, but only if your DSL connection is close enough to the node wich doesn't happen very often.
Awesome and very true aside from the never getting your full speed from your ISP. I work for an ISP and we provision above advertised speeds solely so people will hit #'s on speed tests (although they have no idea how the internet works or what the "speeds" mean). For example I have a 400 mbps connection provisioned ~435 and I regularly hit 420. Of course with a wired connection (no ISP in thier right mind would advertise wifi speeds- if they do you should look elsewhere) and compatible hardware and wiring. But everything else, spot on!
The upload speeds are small fraction of download speeds, the slowest connection in here that would be fast enough to stream 4k from home to internet is 1Gbit. Another issue is that what speeds are available to your location, are there anything else between 100Mbit and 1Gbit. Linux users will have bi-yearly every single piece of software is available to upgrade at the time of your choosing. Majority of use cases for faster internet is trading money to save time, so if you make more money and use internet a lot then the small increments of time saved is worth it.
I got along until just a few years ago with 5mbps/1mbps. It was a bit rough at times, but it was certainly doable. As it stands I have about 50/30 and that's really just fine. I honestly don't think the average household needs more than 100 down unless it's a large family (5 or more people) all on at once. (note that I'm talking the real mbps that you actually get, not the advertised theoretical maximum)
They are running fiber lines to the houses on my block next month. "Speeds up to 1.5 gigabit"
The Man's Kitchen You probably live in Canada
I'm just sitting here with 10mbs and crying because I live in a nowhere town and no it's not going to get better anytime soon
I know what I'm doing, I do network engineering and it was tricky getting gigabit to work in my household to work at the full potential. I have a fully wired house and running a linux vm for our router (On an esxi box) and I had to change setting on my switch and other places to get this thing working at it's full rate. I do bet the gigabit wireless access points are also a bit shitty. (I'm using an enterprise ubiquity wireless network but didn't expect it to fully get gig speeds as non of my laptops/phones can handle that shit.) It is nice having the better upload bandwidth. I was able to connect to my home computer from work and edit video and use Photoshop and it was glorious. Also been downloading big-ass files.
My upgrade to gigabit is gonna be completely free of charge, next month, so I'm taking it, because why not!
My ISP is Wind-Tre, by the way, for other Italians that are reading this!
I have 300 Meg Down and 30 Meg Up. There is not a single thing it will be too slow for.
The worst thing about ISP's around here is the 1TB data cap regardless of speed. If I actually had a 1gbps connection I could cap that in a few hours. Hell I get kinda close sometimes with my 25mb connection that I pay basically nothing for. I just run pfsense QoS to keep the internet running consistently ok even when downloading. I also just changed my mindset of "I NEED THIS NOW" to I'll start it before bed the day before and by the time I get home from work tomorrow it'll be done. When I had roommates we had an agreement to not stream 4k netflix because we were consistently close to the 1TB data cap even just streaming at 1080.
We have gigabit connection for 10 USD here in Ukraine.
I’m using 500/Mbps (62.5 MBs) download and upload, it is enough for me when it comes to streaming, download/uploading big files and games. A friend of mine has 5Mbps shared with 4 others so he basically gets nothing out of his connection and his ISP isn't allowed to upgrade his Internet connection because of some stupid rules between the different ISPs in Norway.
another thing to point out is that a lot of big downloads can just be done overnight which isn't a long wait
What we need is for these companies to properly maintain their infrastructure, and contract a Minimum guaranteed bandwidth up AND down. Not placing 20 home into one line for us to share bandwidth.
Great breakdown. Learned a ton from you in this one!
I have 300mbps, and honestly it’s pretty overkill.
Getting 300Mbit via fibre next year. Currently at 4G 10Mbit, and it is too slow in many cases. Downloading MS FS 2020 takes like forever... But if you are patient you can manage :)
The most important part is to be able to stream a video. That is the minum speed I need when alone really. But right now my son and his friend is hogging all the bandwidth :)
meanwhile here in Australia they advertise 50Mbps and give you 30Mbps
One thing not discussed is data caps. I recently left Comcast due to their 1tb limit and switched to CenturyLink fiber. $65 a month at 1 gig, with price locked for life and no data cap.
In Spain, after you run out of your monthly bandwidth limit, on mobile, they let you browse indefinitely at 16 kbs for free, which may not sound like a lot because it isn't but the two most popular chat apps (Telegram and WhatsApp) surprisingly deliver text messages instantly at 16 kbs so you have that. Sending or receiving pictures or videos or browsing the web is a big no-no though.
Me with a 5Gbit/s internet for 20€ in Italy: 👀