What is USB-C? It's Not As Simple As You Think!
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USB Type C (or just USB-C) is a new type of connector that will be a standard for almost all USB cables in the future. It means that you'll only have to buy one type of cable, or does it? USB-C may seem simple, but in reality, there are several different types and varieties with different features, and if you buy the wrong one, it might not work as you expect. USB-C cables can have different "alternate modes" that use other protocols such as displayport, thunderbolt, or even HDMI, but not every USB C cable will have these.
Sources:
1. www.usb.org/developers/docs/
--Download the zip of the different PDF specifications, go to "USB Type C" folder, then "USB Type-C Specification Release 1.2.pdf"
--Tables at 4:08 - Pg 27-28
2. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB-C#A...
3. www.usb.org/developers/usbtype...
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Right i agree
"Universal serial bus"
Has 1000+ different types with different protocols.
Outline:
0:42 - _BASIC_ *Specs*
2:29 - _DATA_ *Speeds*
4:03 - _ELECTRICAL_ *Power*
6:18 - _PLUG TYPE_ *Protocols*
Thanks
Thanks!
10:29 😲😲🤣🤣
Thx
_BASIC_
It’s not easy doing “only” 5 hours of research and then speaking to us as an expert on a subject. It’s one thing to learn something. It’s quite another to understand it so well that you can discuss it and explain it in a condensed and thorough way. Great job. Subscribed years ago when I found your parody vids, and haven’t looked back.
I came here to offer similar praise. Great job, Thio.
Joe thanks for trying to simplify the USB c categories. Like you I think the industry should color code the cables and the jacks. I could quite easily see this turning into a hugely confused area for computer and electronic users. And I thought that USB was supposedly trying to make the connectivity issues simpler to use. I'm reminded of the 1980''s when you had to - 1 set dip switches 2- Use special non-standard drivers 3- manually modify autoexec.bat and config.sys files 4- Use only certain pieces of hardware for alleged compatibility 5- use the same memory speed, manufacturer, and manufacturer run to work together.
Well done for getting all that information spoken at once so quickly I was impressed! Even reading that lot out from a proper auto-cue would be a major exercise!
This was very helpful! Unfortunately, the specification is disappointing for the reasons you mentioned. Trying to diagnose incompatibilities, especially for non-technical people is going to be frustrating. Like many people, I was looking forward to the benefits of the physical change, but I think this makes things worse. It would be nice if one of the device ends informed the user about the cable's capabilities or incompatibilities once plugged in.
1. 36 different competing standards
2. *makes new standard to unify them all*
3. Now, 37 different competing standards
LOL 😂
I appreciate you sharing this. I thought I had the latest USB options on my laptop but alas NOT! You saved me from buying a laptop dock that clearly wouldn't have worked. Thank you!
Thanks for breaking all of this down for us, ThioJoe! Your videos are always so helpful & informative! 😊👏🏼👏🏼👍🏼⭐️⭐️
4:13
I suspect that the lower power specification on the mini-USB cable is because there were no devices requiring more power than that using that particular connector.
Excellent video! Clear video and audio, short yet complete, to the point, illustrative, future proof, aware of realistic situations, suggesting solutions, preventing confusion. Other youtubers (and ebayers!!) should learn from this form and content.
OMG! I went shopping a long time ago. I’m 78 yrs old, and when I don’t understand something, (like my husband explaining why an automobile in a movie doesn’t make that sound, doesn’t explode that way, then goes into the most minute details of how an engine is built), I smile, and think about shopping while I nod my head and pretend to listen. So, when I realized I’m doing the same thing…can’t keep up…I went shopping. Thank you, though. I know you’re good and I’ve watched you before.
USB C > Lightning
type-C is even easier to break, harder to clean or repair, and as impossible to solder by hand as micro HDMI.
Whats the point of speaking that out? Lightning is just a properitary connector that uses USB2 and will only fit in Apple Products; iPods and iPhones for the major part.
While USB C is an universal standard with potentially way more... uhm... anything.
sagich dirdochnicht lighting is a better physical connection. it's design allows it to be more robust . usb c still has the pins floating in the center of the socket . making them prone to bending and breaking.
You got it.
@@Mike-dy8sj / Isn't Ipad pro 2018 similiar as USB C?
Of all that cool functions, but No; don't bend it.
This video, the explanation of the Samsung exploding battery video, and many other long ones are probably boring and too long for a large part of the audience to watch, but we really have to appreciate the amount of work joe puts into making these videos, all that time you're learning something new. 5 hours of research, you deserve more views and money! Great work!
Most of us find them interesting actually.
I didn’t find it boring at all..
Saw a lot of videos trying to figure out USB-C, Thunderbolt 3 and the mess around it. Your video was the most informative one. Thanks a lot!
I'm totally impressed with the high standard in preparing your clips - mainly the smart balance between giving a comprehensive idea about the subject in hand and maintaining the entertaining aspect.
Expecting you very soon to having PhD in IT filed :)
I have been trying to figure out the right way to connect my type c usb. Thanks
I have tbe same problem
What? You no longer have to worry which way the plug is oriented. What "right way" are you talking about?
This guy gave me trust issues
You don't know whether what he says is true or fake, his channel is filled with useless Mumbo-Jumbo so I'm not sure on what to believe in
Abdalrahman wael lmao
Abdalrahman wael maybe if you actually read the description you'd know if it's real or fake
he lies alot like getting free internet and turning a 1080p tv in to 4k i dont trust him
He is making fake video in the past, in order togainview and subs. but he is now changed to do real technical videos and giving real information.
Thank you for the thorough explanation. I had begun to realize there was more and less to this new cable but it made no sense and now I conclude that it will not makes sense but will simply be more complicated. I will have to pay closer attention. That explains why 2 new usb-c cables did not work as expected.
Thanks ThioJoe! That's a ton of research and boiling down for all of us! Much appreciated
Great video on this confusing mess of a "standard". In a follow up video you might want to mention a quirk where some companies are selling non-standard and possibly harmful (to your electronics) adapter cables on Amazon and elsewhere. I think I've heard someone mention that having the wrong connector type on one end and the USB Type-C on the other might lead to power pins inadvertently leading to data pins or something.
Your tech videos are getting better. Good research. :)
Its not that complicated.
Things to keep in mind:
1. Transfer Speed (2.0, 3.0, 3.1 Gen1, 3.1 Gen2)
2. Power (Power delivery 2.0 and 3.0)
3. Display protocols (display port and thunderbolt)
4. Mode (active or passive)
Its amazing how USB can support all those protocols in one thin wire. I think USB standard is the best invention on the planet.
Nice job on this on this video. Very clear audio, nice graphics, good pace. Excellent. thank you.
I'm a tech guy and research everything unto pain has been endured. You saved me from that so I thank you, great presentation and it was too dumbed down for proficient and tech-historic folk. Keep up the good work, I'm going to check out more of your videos now.
I was so excited that we were moving to a world where every device would have the same universal port that does everything, and I would not have to worry about buying a different cable for each of my devices ever again, but it looks like that’s not the case. And not only that, everything is going to get a lot more complicated now that every cable looks the same, but each has different functions and protocols. Just another example of “if it's too good to be true it probably is.”
Color was a good idea: display USB C = Red, black = standard transfer, blue = high speed USB 3.1 Gen 2, 100W power = green, and ones that support multiple of those have multiples colors like half and half and 1/3 of it is each color
I just switched from a laptop plus monitor set up that I punched about 11 years ago. It was still very functional and all usb A plugs. The new version of the same set up is all usb c so in buying all new cable/plug inventory I ensured every item could transmit 10 gbs, handle at least 65 watts and have braided cables. I didn’t want any cables or plugs that couldn’t do everything. I checked it all and seems good. The Studio display comes with a Thunderbolt cable to connect the M2 Air so I’m sticking to that for the all important data/power link in one cable. I do use a projector for teaching which needs hdmi so I purchased a cable specifically built to connect Usbc to hdmi. This video was very helpful. Thanks.
Very good, no junk background music (noise), you spoke clearly and concise. Remarkable nowadays.
The only gripe I have is in the discussion of power, you completely ignored the different VOLTAGES that the USB-C / Power Delivery supports. It's not just about the Amperage. For example, you mention "3A, 60W up to 5A, 100W." Well, the other side of it is the voltage. If the charger only supports 5 Volts, the absolute maximum power output would be 25W, because 5V * 5A = 25W. And some USB-C cables support higher voltages than others.
Thank you, very informative. Thanks for research and effort you put in this video. I'm quite new the whole thing.
No this is all correct
Thanks for the info to clear things up!
Thank you for explaining this. I knew different cables would not work with different peripherals, but not why. This video cleared that up for me!
So @ThioJoe, this video has been very helpful to all those who are using USB C Cables. Honestly, I agree with you that consumers will be just plain confused because of all the different types of power and speed capabilities, not to mention protocols. Anyhow, Seeing that this is such a well put video, did you happen to find any cables that actually support the "best" or most looked features? (I mean ideally, one would want a USB type C cable that is 3.1 Gen 2 [I.e. Full Featured] with USB PD and cables with desired protocols? (like for example, one that has the correct protocol for Hdmi)?
10:30 in is what earned you the like 😂😂😂😂
Glad I found you. Cleared much up for older user and still some not clear. Need to study more. Thanks for posting and grabbing my interest.
Thank you this Most informative video. I have just upgraded my cell phone to Galaxy S9, so I am new to this cable. You explain this plug and power options Very well with plain language, Very thoroughly. I am not sure what these other guys are taking about, but you come across likable and honest. Thank you.
Joe do you use Phillips hue for the background lighting?
randotaf Yh. he is rich af
Thank you for such an interesting and informative video. I thought all USB-C cables were created equal and had no idea there were so many differences. In a perfect world, we shouldn't have to worry about using the correct USB-C cable if we simply use the cable supplied by the device manufacturer but for some reason those cables fail, especially when they get slammed in a car door or the wheels of an office desk chair continually roll over it. I'll definitely be taking a closer look at the specs before buying my next replacement.
Good one. I was just wondering about the USB C port. Thanks!
As a nerd; the insane variation already makes my head hurt; I can't imagine how someone like my wife who doesn't give a crap; would ever navigate any of this..
She would get you to do it, and call you an idiot if you did it wrong.
@@philipwebb960 totally true lmao
She would just use the cable that came with her phone or tablet. And if it breakas its your fault and must go find a replacement.
Haha I'm a wife and this is how I do my research thru TH-cam, got my man the Arctic gaming head phones cause of TH-cam (and Abit of research)
@@marykay8587, so... you're kind of a nerd as well, like the OP. Your gender (wife) is irrelevant.
TFW universal serial bus isn't universal at all
Hey Thio! :D
ThioJoe TFW using meme speech when outside of your Mongolian cartoons image boards
boi
You should check out the response vid "feed your mind" did on your response to his flat earth vid
ThioJoe ,bro how how to convert .con video format into MP4 plz reply. it's urgent
Much thanks for an excellent presentation regarding a very complex issue.
I remember plugging in my 13" IBM monitor's 110v to the switched PSU of my PC.
30 years to come full circle.
Thanks for the breakdown! I was hopeful about this new standard, but also skeptical. It's a shame...
Robert Dodson i know, very informative
This video is completely ironic and parody
what about thunderbolt 3 via usb type c?
Thunderbolt3 is standerd. If something is thunderbolt3 complient, it just works. Like how everything using lightning just works.
Very nicely put together. I had general knowledge of what you most talked about. But I had no idea this was such a mess. Thanks for the knowledge. Best, Raphael.
Great summary/explanation! Thx for all your hard effort.
USB-C is actually very simple.The transdimentional hyperlink helps discombobulate the cubed electrons which are stuck in stasis.Once the thin layer of crystal threaded fibers have their molecules aligned (which obviously keep the angulous in balance with the triangulouscalculational front end) the data and power can do their thang.Or some shit.
Rriiiiiggghhhht?!
Finally a simple explanation,, thank you 😉
Lol
Remembering of course to carry the 1
Robert Whitley🤣
I lost my train of thought after the first 5 minutes 💀 I'm dead
Informative presentation,I’m sorry about the affliction you have with your left hand and the two fingers 🤟
Oh man!! Now I'm really confused. Thanks for the great video. I'll probably have to watch it over and over.
I still don't trust any of his videos because of the parody videos he used to make
surfie007 same 😂😂😂
surfie007 lmfao tell me why i was jus thinkin the same damn thing like wow he did 2+hours of research for this vid jus for me to be like um lmao i cant fkn tell if ur serious or jus playin😂
Exactly
He stopped that
Wait wat he do?
usb-c can be use to charge laptop?
Some laptops usually ultra books
Red Sola Yes. It can charge a MacBook Pro.
And my 92W HP Spectre x360!
yes, it will charge but depends on the adapter you use.
And on the MacBook Pro, it is the only way to charge the MacBook Pros.
Thanks for the video. So if I'm looking for a usb-c to hdmi for an external monitor what do I need to look for?
Wow thanks for explaining that mess, I sorta understood. I have a a question; I have several wireless chargers that have a capacity up to 10W output but only does 5W right now. current cord has one end is that micro USB and other is USB, would switching to a USB C end (micro USB and USB) allow me to use the optimum capacity of the 10W?
how about just buying the full featured usb c and using it for everything? will that work?
Yes
James Michael no, that's like buying a cake that is chocolate, vanilla, caramel and strawberry but you can only taste the flavour you want to taste.
Yes pretty much only for the exception he gives in the video, the problems of active and passive for using thunderbolt, from what the wikipedia page says using jsut a full featured should be okay for everything. He makes it seem complicated but from the table he gives it seems just using an active cable should be pretty much fine, ergo I don't think what he said at 8:25 was even correct, an active cable should work for everything. also en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB-C#Alternate_Mode_partner_specifications maybe this has since appeared since this video was uploaded, there is going to be symbols denoting what kind of cable they are.
Thanks for the explanation Joe. At-least i now have a clue about USB-C
Thanks a lot Joe, your educational videos are very helpful and it makes my life easier and better knowledge wise. Thanks again.
serious and helpful as instructive. Thanks Joe!
It's an inverted lightning cable.
USB-C with Thunderbolt 3 is very amazing :)
Wanna use a external gpu? USB-C
Wanna use a fast monitor? USB-C
Wanna charge ur device? USB-C
Or all together? USB-C
(All USB-C with Thunderbolt 3)
Very good video still today (Jan 2022). Last year I had use a specific usbc-mini display port cable to connect my MacBookPro to monitor with 4k@60Hz resolution (with other cable max refresh rate was 30Hz).
Today I’m looking for a usbc hub without getting a very expensive Thunderbolt hub, but I found only one (Sitecom CN-385). I would connect my devices (excluded the monitor) with usbc cables/connectors. Do you know any other products alternative to the Sitecom one? And what do you think about Sitecom product?
Just subscribed, this is not the first time your team has addressed confusing issues and cleared them up for me thanks for help and for all your hard work .
what about usb1.0 on usb c
The worst thing is that most of these cables aren't marked, you can't know what it supports etc.
Also sellers get rekt AF as well...
Arek R. It is 3.0 mine was written
It's true, but in the end you'll notice the difference between a good and a bad one
If you are using power signals coming out of the computer to deliver signals to components outside of the computer, that is to perform a function in the real world, every part of the output signal must be correct or you risk destroying expensive hardware components or performing incorrect functions that could ultimately have dire physical consequences.
The greater the number of wires in the connector, the greater the chance of making a mistake!
@@monday6740 Maybe, but possibly not!
Hi, quick question. What camera and light setup did you use for this video? It looks great. Thanks!
OMG thank you for explaining the A,B,C and 2.0, 3.0 etc. I thought I was going crazy trying to understand it all, and you just explained it all in one sentence.
Harvard is offering a PhD in USB C cable management. I am joining.
You will probably need it to understand it. It says "Universal", but there is nothing universal about it. Every device is going to use a different cable, a different port...
What an unholy mess. Thanks for the heads up
John Thornley I know, right? Not gonna use USB-C until USB micro-B, USB mini-B and USB-B go extinct.
Backintheday USB was designed to eliminate and supercede parallel ports by going to serial configuration and thus greatly reducing the number of wires needed to perform a function. With USB-C, etc by adding additional wires, the number of choices again sky rockets and the possibility of error is compounded. Greater speed in and of itself means nothing if the wrong functions are being performed.
Do you think this would affect using a non-apple USB-c cable for charging the new Macbook Pros? There are longer/better built cables that I want to buy for my new Macbook but i've been kind of scared to get just any cable. Thoughts?
Hi very good video
What is better and faster for note9 pd??? qc2 / 3 ??? or original fast charger????
TNX
bangs head on table repeatedly. Its hard enough to explain the differences between between usb, thunderbolt etc to customers already.
This is going to be a retailer nightmare....
so you actually decided to do real videos instead of making me look like a complete idiot trying to get faster internet with a stick of bubble gum and a penny
+ Scott King - 🤣😂🤣
With all these complexities, I'm glad my phone and computer still uses the regular USB.
WOW! thank you for all your homework & infomation on my behalf. And yes, I was surprised too! I agree that standardized color codes along with physical identifying notched ribs or fins (that would also help blind persons) would help & be the way to go.
🤔Is this video real or fake? Where's the aluminum foil & bubble gum for me to connect it with? 🤣😂🤣
My head hurts, joking, I build computers, but man, WTF lol
Why
Hello sir
I am from Iran.
I can alittle speak&read&writhe English.Thank you very very very much for you're teach.
You are a very very good teacher.Excellent.
Flick off
wow, you communicate sooo well. just the info wo the fluff people think is needed in all aspects of communicating. good job. are you from Connecticut, or at least the Northeast lol? me,Ct.
You look exactly like this guy I know. LOL
Connecting devices: The final frontier
These are the voyages of USB
Its 50 year mission
To explore strange new worlds
To seek out new plugs and new connections
To boldly go where no man has gone before
It seems the wrong system has won the war of economics.
Yep, it's VHS all over again! lol
To Robert Cartier..Yep, Killing the very good Sony Beta-max and the excellent Philips Video-2000!!..and maybe today generation think that me and you are talking Chinese!!
@@letitbe6604
LOL
Yeah, let's not bring up 8-track tapes and vinyl records or we'll be labeled archeologists!
LOL!
LOL! Yep, I still have those too! Whoa... I really AM old! ;-)
Duh ! I just forgot most of what was said here. I must be getting on in the years.
The bottom line was clear though.
Not all USB C cables are made equal . Like most people I erroneously presumed they were.
Thank you!
Your amazing Theo glad i subscribed to you a few years ago thank you so much for sharing this
whats firewire
+*Jon Roberts*
It was a short-lived cable format used between the dates Feb. 29 and 31, 1942. The connectors were made of used potato chip splinters, and were eventually suspected of having ties with the Communist party, thus falling out of public favor.
nakyer
But potatoe chip splinters? that sounds useless. and why communist connection?
+*Jon Roberts*
You'd really like me to give you that information, wouldn't you?
It was a cable format used from 2000-2008. It was kinda like a old version of Thunderbolt.
firewire is faster than usb 2.0 and was used during the 2000s because of that. usb 3.0 didnt exist yet until like 2010, and usb 2.0 had a max speed of 480Mbps, while firewire could reach speeds 400-800Mbps. so people liked to use firewire because it was faster. the firewire port looks somewhat like a usb port. just look up the port on images and you’ll see
color code PLEAAAASE
Can you make an update video for the USB C standard 🙏…your videos are AMAZING!
ThioJoe, Many Thanks! 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 for this! Good education. Do you have a PhD in USB Affairs?
OMG, now my head hurts! 😣
Jesus Christ.....just give me a damn cable and cord
What?
Well, at least YOU got an education researching the subject! Which is admirable and useful for you and I’m happy for you! Now, all I want to do with a USB-C cable (which I just ordered and has not arrived yet) is to plug one end of the cable into my USB-C jack on the Dell Inspiron and the other end of the cable (also USB-C) into my Kobo Sage eReader, and hope it charges the Sage eReader. Any feedback? (please?)
Joe, I love your videos! My go to for information. Thank you for your videos 🤔👍
I'm now more confused.
I love how he says "a maximum of at least 3 amps"
Devin Black he said minimum
@@julionraunja6812 Wash you ears out and listen again 4:07
1 year later ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
"a maximum of at least 3 amps" makes total sense. Speaking of electrical current you need to limit it or it will burn the components. So, the bigger the maximum is, the better, it means the cable will support "up to" that current.
A "minimum" rate would not make sense. It would mean that low power devices would not work. Say your device only needs 100mA, and the cable has a minimum rate of 500mA. What then? Would your device not work at all? Why would you limit how little power can it transfer?
I had hoped you would discuss what happens if you do plug one end in "backwards" - how do the devices decide what signal will be sent / received on which connection?
I know this is a year old, but still very helpful. Thanks ThioJoe
But... Does it work in India?
nai bhai -_-
😒
+*Haashim Rehan*
I'm sure it doesn't. After all, reality differs from one country to another.
Haashim Rehan Don't try this in India
you might blow up your house
+Carl CIFER yep
A standard where you can plug in the wrong cable and blow up your new $1000 gizmo. Or with a little luck, it just won't communicate. Or charge. Or it does, but slower than it should. But you can always plug it in, that's what counts. USB-C. What a mess.
No it won't blow up anything unless your cable is defective. The connector can identify the capabilities of the cable even if humans can't see it. The most that will happen is it won't work if the cable lack the capability. Basically they give up the old version of different plugs for different function. And just do multiple funtion on one connector that can be cheaper to mass produce. Overtime as manufacturing become cheaper then it will be cheaper for manufacturer to produce one cable with all the function instead of having different production lines for different function. But for now because it is new it is still expensive to unify everything.
Thanks. I bought a USB type C charger off amazon for my MacBook Pro 2018… the silver tip was long and wouldn’t fit in perfectly. Are all USB type C the same length?
When I was young, engineers worked on simplifying, ergonomics, one size fits all, etc. Now they make things more complicated and call it advanced! When I was young, I could operate the radio and the AC in my car without looking. Modern cars have touchscreens and menus to scroll through to do the same, making you take your eyes off the road. And they call it advanced technology. USB-C would be a great idea if one cable would work on everything, regardless of speed or function - That would be efficient engineering and give a truly advanced product. Right now I use 5 different USB cables for my various devices which all have different connector types. Devices using USB-C cables should be standardized, so your cellphone cable can be used on your digital camera or your external hard drive, your battery charger or whatever. That would be a true technological advance.