11:30 - you forgot to add ‘Or you!’ Your body it’s cells and dna could also stop and block the 5ghz not just walls. The reason 2.4ghz can have a longer distance is because of the lower frequency it uses that has a longer wavelength, it’s not short enough to be stoped or absorbed by most things since a single wave can’t complete a cycle in the thickness of that object (i.e. you or a wall) so the wave continues and passes right though. This is why 2.4ghz on channel 1 with the transit power in my router set to low is what I have in my house. Less health risk.
because they are made from concrete(basicly a lot of water) like most european houses are made even still unlike in america where they use wood for walls
Yeah wood construction is making a bit of a comeback in response to ecological concerns but in your typical house built with brick, concrete and steel forget it.
I was a networking consultant during the 802.11AC transition and worked to educate consumers on why they should switch and if it made sense to take on the extra cost of the new technology when buying a new router as well as training retail sales people on how to explain it in a way your average person could understand. And joe may I just say while you do have some good points there is also tons....I mean tons of misinformation. I’m not gonna list it all out here in a TH-cam comment just know that this advice is good advice for many people but not all people. If you are still confused please go talk with an expert about your unique situation to find out what’s best for you.
My whole neighborhood are jostling each other on 2.4 Ghz, but on 5 Ghz I'm all alone. My WiFi-connection is fast and stable like no one's business. This new 5 Ghz Router is my best purchase ever.
I can only imagine the havoc that everyone causes for you if you ever connect to 2.4 again. It would probably be as bad as intermittent connections or terribly slow WiFi. I can imagine some people resetting their router not fully understanding the real problem thinking that they have a junk router or a bad cable.
Maybe in a house with cardboard walls or thin walls. If you have an old house like built 1650ish (using rocks, lumber, loam,...) with real walls (40 to 50 cm) you have no chance of getting a 5 Ghz signal to another room. 2.4 Ghz cisco accesspoints with multi antennas do the job quite well, they get through the walls with ease. I tried 5Ghz in mesh and non mesh configurations which kind of helps, but in total you require more accesspoints for the same area (tried different manufactures: Asus, Ubiquiti, AVM). Plus I don't care about interference of other networks (all neighbors are far away enough)... So in conclusion it depends on each specific usecase ;-)
In theory your arguments are true and well presented. In practice, you see many more people having issues with 5GHz. Constant drop outs and reconnects mean that 2.4GHz ends up much faster. Processing power in smartphones and tablets mean that this along with a poorly written OS and App's mean that WiFi is unlikely to be the bottleneck...for everything else there's cable (and if needed, powerline adapters). Another good informative video though!
I have a gaming router I disable the 5ghz and just use the 2.4ghz on channel 1 with the transmit power set to low. Great distance, great reliability, speed is perfectly fine for smartphones/laptops even when steaming. (The really data heavy / latency sensitive stuff like my gaming PC and Apple TV are wired). The distance means I can use my Wi-Fi parked up on the street outside my house. Also 2.4ghz is safer for health. Yes the waves travel further but they are not able to be stoped by things because of the long wave length, things like walls and more importantly YOU!
Good stuff. Just a clarification which I believe you implied: Light waves--in the same medium--travel at exactly the same velocity ("c" in a vacuum). The 5GHz frequency must have a shorter wavelength than the 2.4GHz frequency because: c = (wavelength X frequency) (increasing one value reduces the other as c is a constant value in a given medium) More waves per second can carry more binary information. But the velocity in the same environment of these two light wavelengths are identical. Neither travels "faster" than the other. Regards, Eric.
WOW, very informative. The guy who installed my internet told me, "Don't bother with the 5G, it's got no range." Well, I'm only 20ft from my router and behind one wall. I changed from the 2.4GHz to 5 just now and my speed went from 34 to *150Mbps*!
2 different locations and 5 different wifi routers tested and 2.4GHz wins for me, way too many connection problems on 5GHz. Walls killed it for me as well as for many others. But I must be one of the "smart asses" you are referring to so what do I know...
@ThioJoe: I wanted to add that while this video is good, and accurate, people who have a good understanding of networking are going to usually always choose a wired connection over wireless anyway. To cut down on interference and throughput, and latency issues that can still be present with any wireless connection vs wired. I would break down the recommendations as follow: Ethernet whenever possible 5ghz 80211ac, or 80211n 2.4ghz n, and G as a last resort, if you're in an area where options are slim.
@@Henfredemars I would still suggest wired yes. I am not sure if a 2Gps connection is even possible for consumer grade gear (even over the LAN.) Certainly not on 2.4ghz, probably not on 5 either. Maybe on 6Ghz once it's more established. The only 2Gbp connections I'm aware of are Ethernet only. Also consider that Ethernet is Full Duplex, while even with the advances in wireless, it's still only Half Duplex, so Ethernet is still going to give you overall better transfers and other traffic management without bottlenecks, or interference, or other issues Wifi suffer from.
@@macinman it's absolutely possible. I have a 4x4 AX base and a 3x3 card, 160 MHz channel entirely in DFS to get the whole band to myself. I'll occasionally see link rates in excess of 3 Gbps. I did not consider that it's half duplex however! That's a big difference.
@@Henfredemars Until recently I've used Wifi 5, recently I upgraded to a TP-Link AX4400, the only wifi 6 devices I have are my iPhone 12 Pro Max, and the newest Apple TV 4K model. Beyond that most of my wifi devices are smart bulbs and run on 2.4ghz only, and the other 5Gh devices are only N, or AC. So I think in that configuration Ethernet is still the best connection. Also, I'm paying for 400 Mbps down and 20 Mbps up for my internet. So on a Gigabit wired connection i usually get around 480 down and 23 up. Now with the new router, wireless is actually in the same ballpark as wired finally, but I still don't know if I'd get the speeds you're talking, unless all devices supported it on the LAN side, certainly not from the ISP.
@@macinman hey, I bought that router Thursday! I was moving from an Asus AX68U with unexpected reboots during the week. It was a fantastic deal for a 4x4 AX unit. I don't really care for TP-Link software, but it seems solid so far. The speeds I'm seeing are LAN only for the ideal case of a desktop AX client with a recent Intel card. I'm more willing to spend on my wifi because I live in a crowded complex with several dozen neighboring networks, especially to get on the DFS channels that nobody else is using. My Plex server really feels the difference. My Roku units don't have a wired option or even AX, but they benefit from DFS. New Wi-Fi standard adoption is so slow. 2.4 is a mess. I can't control what my neighbor's use. I wire what can be wired. Unfortunately that's not a whole lot of devices. Meanwhile, my smart switches are just now moving on to wireless-n on 2.4.
If your confuse of those options this will help you. Use 2.4GHz if your connecting to your neighbor or your connecting far away to your router. Use 5GHz if your router was near to you, or your router in room and want best wifi speed
Thank you, Joe! My FTP speed shot by from 1.5 MB/s to 5MB/S. Which doesn't seem like a lot but, when you're dealing with huge file sizes, it's a lifesaver.
Considering the difference and what you started out with every bit helps. I was once on DSL that only ran at 3 Mbps so I know the pain of slow connections. I had dialup before that too and that is the only thing worse.
For Samsung wireless printer, ATT wifi router and Comcast wifi router interfere and prevent printer setup. So, one freq. is shutdown on each for set up. One printer is on the low freq. 2.4 and one is on the higher freq 5.4.
@@stevenp.sparks2953 It's been 3 years since I commented that and I do now have a new router which the 5GHz works great on. It works great as long as I'm on the same floor as the router.
4:06 we know, we still don't use even the max of that. You're argument will still be mute until Wifi 7 comes out or we start uploading 8K content. Cause... Then it wouldn't be much of an argument cause Wireless N's kinda thrown out the window by now. Companies will leave the old tech to rot, they won't return to good oldays-MICROSOFT TPM OS KILLER. Cough... Sorry that was irrelevant of me.
Excuse me. If there is one thing I can’t stand is for someone to call me “stupid” without calling me “stupid”. It’s not what you say, it’s how you say it.
Used to be a network engineer, now I'm a physicist. This is a good TLDR on 2.4ghz VS 5ghz WiFi, there are a few extra things to add. Being on a different channel doesn't stop one from interfering with another even if they don't overlap, wave mechanics shows colliding waves are mutually destructive with the strongest signal surviving the most. 2.4ghz doesn't just have better range, it has better obstacle penetration on the quantum level, think of the double-slit experiment. My advice, stuff everything you can on 5ghz and keep 2.4ghz for devices that either can't use 5ghz or for mobile devices that you use in more than one location in your home or work environment.
I have 5 routers running around my property. AC N and B. B is the oldest standard. What I noticed is the 2.4 is crap on the AC routers. The N A B 2.4 on the older routers works consistently and speed is faster. If you have to use the 2.4 use an old router. There is no point in upgrading to an AC router without AC devices as a future proofing.
I currently only use 2.4, and have 5 switched off. I prefer a constant strong signal with higher range, and always knowing how a device is connected. Also I have devices that are only 2.4. I have a fixed channel set too. Yes, I think the shorter range of 5 has the advantage of less interference too. I may start using 5 for some devices though mostly because of the extra channels. I also prefer to use a wired connection when I can too.
Then what about normal light? Normal light is on the THz, thousands of times more powerful than a GHz. Also, the antennas on your router are probably less than a watt. A light bulb has way more watts
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Many routers emit both 2.5 and 5G at the same time. It's every now. We live in an irradiated world, although it's non-ionizing so maybe it's not too bad.
2.0 GHz : WiFi Range (350m) (Normal) 4.0 GHz : WiFi Range (150m) (Fast) 5 GHz : Fast Speed Internet (70m) (Very Fast) I from Indonesian Tested : TP Link
If anyone is still reading the comments, I need some huge help! Would a 2.4ghz with a Ethernet cable plugged into my pc be faster/ the same as a WIRELESS 5ghz?
An Ethernet connection is always faster than any Wifi connection but if you have other wireless devices using Wifi aside from your desktop it can make a difference.
@@rexsceleratorum1632 Many ethernet connections are faster than 100 mbps, up to 1000 mbps. But in general, wired connections are still faster and more reliable than most Wifi connections. Your case maybe a rare exception though.
@@TheGreatOne16439 You realize that your original statement was "An Ethernet connection is always faster than any Wifi connection"? But to answer the original commenter, cheap 2.4GHz-only AP's usually only have Fast Ethernet (100mbps) switches. If they are capable of a 150mbps+ 802.11n link, then WiFi will be faster depending on congestion. Any cheap AC1200 router will provide a faster WiFi link as well. But even 5GHz routers may cut costs by having FE switches, with the assumption that people prioritize WiFi. An example is Netgear R6120. So no, it is not a fringe exception to have faster WiFi than Ethernet. But Ethernet wins at reliability and consistency.
While my portable broadband supports 5GHz mode only. Can't select dual mode (2.4GHz and 5GHz). Either 2.4GHz or 5GHz only can be choose. But remember, older device don't work with 5GHz network.
The disadvantages of 5Ghz is range. With 2.5Ghz you are likely to be able to use it in the average house, but with 5 it’s possible that people beyond the household can use it. If they do, they’re on your network and can reach your devices. In the military we would stick a pencil in one antenna mount. This gave that one radio a very short range, perfect for inter-troop communications but due to the very short range it was almost impossible to eavesdrop. As a practical example, if a target appeared the gunner would scream “MINE”, this let the other tanks in the troop that you were engaging and not to engage that target. This left the other tanks available to engage fresh targets. Even if you heard this there’s nothing, as the enemy, you could do as a 120mm anti-tank round was already headed your way.
All I know is that the lower the frequency, the longer the range and obstacle penetration...higher gets me more bandwith. More people on a particular frequency, more collisions. As more people migrate to the higher frequencies, the more available the longer range lower freqs. are to my disposal. I am pretty sure I can use a shitty 900Mhz cordless phone more effectively today than I could in the 80s or early 90s when that spectrum was saturated at that time. Fundamentally it bottoms down to what I am using it for. I shouldn't use the lower frequencies for HDMI streaming. But, it perfectly serves to control a long range drone.
I am running a security system that can work on 2.4 GHZ. I also found there is more range with the 2.4 GHZ band. I realize the 5 GHZ has more speed when there is a lot of traffic on the network, and more bandwidth. I realize the other advantages of 5 GHZ.
5Ghz cell was just reported to give adverse effects to firefighters they did the testing at the station. I'm happy with 2.4, and I shut the wireless off when not in use, as should be. Last thing you want is a frequency strength that can alter and effect living tissue cells and cause any alteration.
When you're old laptop doesn't support 5ghz... :( Is there an adapter card that I can buy that makes my laptop have access to 5ghz? I'm not sure what to look for.
the AT&T 5268AC gateway has both 2.4 and 5Ghz functions. one TH-cam channel showed setup and both functions were enabled. wouldn't running both frequencies mess up WiFi devices? quick update: just learned that both freqs can be used for band steering with the latest firmware. some people are having trouble, but separate addresses should not be needed.
On my D-Link DIR-882 AC2600 router, you have to disable “Smart Connect” if you want to have separate access to either the 2.4 or 5 GHz bands from your devices. Otherwise, the router is supposed to pick the best for you. This causes problems sometimes so I recommend setting it to Disable.
If you’re going to stable connection instead of speed due to brick wall, I would suggest you DISABLE 5G to enable stronger 2.4 WiFi. That’s what I have experienced
Where I live, the only kind of WiFi we can use is 2.4Ghz since the ISP that services the area forces all customers to use equipment from the late 1990s.
I have a question I live way out in the country far away from everyone else and I only have one neighbor with Wi-Fi I have a D-link AC 3200 ultra Wi-Fi router for about two years now and I have absolutely loved it, its a tri-band router so it has one 2.4GHz band and two 5 GHz band I was wondering if I should disable the 2.4 GHz band altogether and just have the router broadcast the two 5GHz band? On average I normally have about 22 devices connected to it between my family and my smart home devices
5 Ghz DOES NOT have less PHYSICAL interferences. There is nothing wrong 2.4ghz (you said that word for word in your video. 80% the physical area of the country is NOT crouded on 2.4ghz. Ahhh I just relized this is a JOKE video.
I live where our neighbors aren't very close so i have very little worry about interference. The main issue would be speed. Doesn't matter to me anyway though because I use Ethernet.
I dont even have fast internet to even care about what GHz i use i have 5 Mbps with a cap of 100 GB then it becomes 1 Mbps unlimited and i even consider it good internet so HA!!!
If your router supports dual band/5GHz, enable it and speed test on your phone/device. Then speed test with 2.4GHz. Repeat this test with both bands while you move to another room or further from router. I have found at least 10+Mbps speed increase with 5GHz when in same room with router.
Lol, so back then routers only had 1 option😴, I'm glad now they come with both Ghz on 1 router and can power both on at same time n choose which 2 connect to🙌🏾😴
Because what Thio says is true as long as there are no walls in the world and everything is straight line of sight. 2.4ghz travels better and further through obstacles. If you sit in your room all day next to your wifi baking router into your body, then 5 ghz is faster. I use 2.4 alot and would 2.4 for reliabilty than 5 for speed. Need speed? PLUG IN.
I have been using the ac (5gHZ) since I got my super slick TP-Link Router and of course devices that use WiFi ac. My router is a bit old but I get a rock solid 399 mbps all the time within my apartment even with 3 devices connected. Great info as usual!
Also the often overlooked point in building a quality wireless network, is it must be built on top of a quality wired network, not instead of. Using ethernet for all non-mobile devices like desktops, workstations, servers and network infrastructure, including: if you have to use multiple APs for roaming to cover a large house, have all connected to the central switch instead of using them as "repeaters". Makes all wireless bandwidth available for the only channels that actually requires it: links between APs and mobile devices.
Thanks for videos, Joe. Just bought Nighthawk R6700 for my 7 wifi devices. Two of my devices require high bandwidth committment - Roku boxes streaming Hulu live TV. The other devices are two phones, an old laptop, and two Android tablets. I put the two streaming Roku devices on the 5 GHz band and the slower, less bandwith sensitive devices on the 2.4 GHz band. All devices are working wonderfully this way. It seems very logical to me. However, I now have to admit that I'm not sure if this is the best strategy. Would putting all devices on 5 GHz band slow down my Roku connections? (The old laptop is stuck at 802.11g however.) It really depends on how the router works I guess... thoughts Joe or anyone else?
I live in a brick house with lots of walls. If you're in a similar arrangement don't invest in an expensive router. Just get a couple cheap WiFi repeaters, you'll be much better off (even though repeaters are pretty shitty)
I would not upgrade to 5ghz connection because i am not sure about two things: 1 ) I don’t know if i will have wifi all over my house 2 ) I am not sure if my laptip is going to connect to a 5ghz connection cuz i think that 5ghz connection connects only to newer devices , not to older devices.
Since I have a tri band router, I have one 5ghz band delicates to my desktop, the other 5ghz for laptop, tablet, phones. Then I use the 2.4 for internet of things like my nest thermostat and devices that only support it.
You know what they say. It's not a sin, but each time you do it, it becomes a little less special! Liking yourself I mean. What did you think I was talking about?
2.4GHz works with AC standard. That means, MU-MIMO, OFDMA, BSS Coloring, everything works with 2.4ghz. Yes, the speed it less, but now you dont get interference with other pleb 2.4ghz in the area. This is a definite win. And wifi 6 routers from xiaomi are now as cheap as 50-70$ with wifi speeds upto 3000 mbps.
I think you mean the AX standard. AC is 5GHz only. Most of the benefits of AX depend on everyone else using it too, whereas 2.4 is already polluted with lots of legacy devices.
Nirethia I would say the fact that 5ghz has less range makes it less susceptible to eavesdropping. With the ciphers and protocols being the same not allowing the guy down the street to even see your network seems like a benefit.
To help with the eavesdropping-issue some routers even let you change the transmission power of each band letting you limit the range which in some cases (as in, you just need the connection for your own bedroom) can be of great benefit :)
I use 5GHz sometimes at some area if their router use 5GHz and 2.4GHz. 2.4GHz is no.1 option because it can backward compatible with older device with 2.4GHz only support. But nowadays, most device (at least low end) can support 5GHz and 2.4GHz while entry level phone still use 2.4GHz (mostly 3G based phone).
You use both and there is no reason not to, yes there is more interference and less channels on the 2.4GHz band but it has greater compatibility and greater range but that comes at expense of lower throughput. 5GHz on the other hand has higher throughput but that comes at the expense of range. Therefore putting in a 5GHz only network is likely to cost more in the long run as, depending on the thickness of the walls, you WILL need range extenders to give you the extra range and that just adds extra cost to running a wireless network, if you're going to do that then just spend the money buying wired kit and have a completely wired network instead which is more secure anyway. So, therefore your reason for NOT using 2.4GHz is interference and available channels which is well known. Most routers will work around interference anyway by looking for the least congested channel.
For our family we do better with the 2.4. We are in a 2 story house nearly 3000 sq ft with usually 5-7 devices connected at once. I notice our speed slows down SIGNIFICANTLY when I switch the router over to 5ghz. We pay for 150mbps through our internet provider....typically only runs at 50mbps when I test it though. I guess it’s all up to what works best for each individual household. Great video though!😁
5GHz is great if you live in a one room open loft with no walls. If you really want good internet connectivity then use Ethernet for everything fixed in place and Ethernet Backhauling Mesh WiFi with as many AP's needed to get a strong signal. Truth is 5GHz through walls and longer distances (as low as 15' + walls / objects) sucks .. 2GHz is often better and more stable.
This is very true. 5ghz doesnt work in countries where houses need to be constructed using concrete rather than cheap dry wall in the US. In our house we have multiple ubiquiti ap on our ceiling because 5ghz cant penetrate some rooms.
Good video! I'm actually going to watch this again because it breaks down a lot of common issues people have with wifi. This helps me explain things to them a lot.
I only use 5 in my home because I have a nearby access point but, more importantly for me, any extra range that I might get from 2.4 is going outside my home and I don't need or want that.
well.. i unsubscribed some time ago (like 3 or 4 years) but hey. im glad to see you are actually making content that is pretty decent. im resubscribing
get what you say and it makes sence ... until the ever increasing amount of 5ghz devices flood the band and they have to choose another one, also the jury is still out on the range (distance) of 5ghz as they are allready talking about a 5ghz repeater in every room if your interior walls are brick and 5ghz has shadow issues but its new and ineresting so here we go
I have 50 mbit/s internet anyway, is it worth it? (Apparently this is considered unacceptably slow by some people but I don't even notice any lack of speed) even after testing between 2.4 and 5 GHz the speed increase is only slight. And I work in my garage a lot which is over 100 feet from my house.
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The FCC needs to broaden the spectrum for WiFi, the 2.4 GHz band is hopelessly over crowded. 5 GHz is not inherently better but is less congested right now but will likely be just as over crowded in the future. WiFi is not very reliable and any device that lacks a true wired network connection is rubbish and not usable for serious work. The quoted speeds for WiFi (802.11X) are all bullshit.
My router has both enabled at the same time . The device chooses which one is best . Not that it really matters , as my connection is only about 8mbps.
I use 2.4 because the range is much higher and the 5 GHz is for 4k streaming on the TV. Also cable is still faster and has not that huge drops. But 5ghz is for sure the better connection method in short range.
Can I use both at the same time instead of splitting between the 2? as I have that option to use both at the same time. Whats the better option? I split both and will try each manually. I live in a small apt so yeah ill see what fits me best. thx. and my tv for Netflix. I usually use my wifi in bedroom and my routers are behind the wall not far from bedroom
if i want speed i wire it. mobile devices, what am i doing that needs that much speed. if im outside in the garage ill take what i can get. better signal. if its 2.4ghz, whatever. when its in range with good signal i usually use the 5ghz. when it comes to my devices, i probably only have a couple that are ac compatible anyway.
03:30 You dont get that speed from 5ghz, unless you are in an open field. 5ghz have way worse penetration and range than 2.4ghz, therefor the speed you are showing does in no way represent the speed you are getting, mainly because the penetration is so much worse that the signal getting through is strugling more than 2.4 and it has "run out of energy". Every wifi/internet speeds are always best case scenarios, where every surrounding are made to provide the best possible signal/results. Though, i have had fiber for nearly six years now, and i have never dropped below the speeds im paying for, mainly because fiber travels/works in different ways than copper. And so many wifi router manufacturer, wich device have both 2.4 and 5, adds the speeds together creating a false advertising; 300 on 2.4 and 600 on 5 they advertise as a maximum of 900
Hello from nearly 4 years in the future. About a year ago I bought a Roku Express 4K+ device for my Dad and it worked on 5GHz. However two months ago I had to buy a new Roku for myself, just a Roku Express and it only supported 2.4GHz, in 2022. WTAF?!? I can't imagine the 5GHz chips are that much more expensive. What makes it worse is that my xFinity modem/router doesn't allow me to change the channel like a typical Router would.
To save u time
2.4ghz=better wifi range
5ghz=faster wifi speed
@JayMikes - Gaming nope I think it has to be built into your phone. I guess you could buy another phone that's supports 5ghz
Sir can u show me what is your setup for 2.4ghz pls sir thanks in advance
@Jay Michael Tanza nope u cant buy a new one not to be mean some devices arent supported
@@dayveboymuana9748 are you from india?
11:30 - you forgot to add ‘Or you!’ Your body it’s cells and dna could also stop and block the 5ghz not just walls. The reason 2.4ghz can have a longer distance is because of the lower frequency it uses that has a longer wavelength, it’s not short enough to be stoped or absorbed by most things since a single wave can’t complete a cycle in the thickness of that object (i.e. you or a wall) so the wave continues and passes right though. This is why 2.4ghz on channel 1 with the transit power in my router set to low is what I have in my house. Less health risk.
5 Giga Hurts, sounds painful...
yeah it hurts
That’s a lotta damage
LMAO
Lmao
screw 5 GHz! Cable is better anyway!
Yee
I always wanted an RJ45 connector on my phone.
A lightning port? Thats for 1.21 GigaWatts, not for 5GHz wifi.
Get your dongle for your phone
Nah, I'll rather keep my dongle in my pants.
The walls in my house kills the 5 GHz
Then get a better router I recommend the Google WiFi
Tntdruid Get Netgear Orbi.
because they are made from concrete(basicly a lot of water) like most european houses are made even still unlike in america where they use wood for walls
Yeah wood construction is making a bit of a comeback in response to ecological concerns but in your typical house built with brick, concrete and steel forget it.
Same, my router has 5ghz and 2.4ghz SSID at the same time and it only shows 2.4ghz one in my room. Unlucky.
Using 2.4Ghz means I get DoS'd by my microwave.
I'm watching this on 2.4 GHz hehe
I am using 2.4Ghz right now with 5G wireless internet, via 100mbps tp link switch
Lol
same
me too.
Same, I have 5g but range sucks
I was a networking consultant during the 802.11AC transition and worked to educate consumers on why they should switch and if it made sense to take on the extra cost of the new technology when buying a new router as well as training retail sales people on how to explain it in a way your average person could understand. And joe may I just say while you do have some good points there is also tons....I mean tons of misinformation. I’m not gonna list it all out here in a TH-cam comment just know that this advice is good advice for many people but not all people. If you are still confused please go talk with an expert about your unique situation to find out what’s best for you.
buT DoEsN'7 iT CaUsE c@NcEr?
My whole neighborhood are jostling each other on 2.4 Ghz, but on 5 Ghz I'm all alone.
My WiFi-connection is fast and stable like no one's business.
This new 5 Ghz Router is my best purchase ever.
I can only imagine the havoc that everyone causes for you if you ever connect to 2.4 again. It would probably be as bad as intermittent connections or terribly slow WiFi. I can imagine some people resetting their router not fully understanding the real problem thinking that they have a junk router or a bad cable.
I only use 2.4 GHz for my microwave
It is bad, 2,4 has lower frequency and will therefore much easier penetrate the walls of your microwave oven and fry your brain.
Johnny Tangstad A microwave is basically a Faraday cage. Nothing can get in, nothing can get out.
Ali365Dash nothing but food
That's actually 2.34GHz
Hugs are you telling us you know your stuff....... 😱😱😂😂
Maybe in a house with cardboard walls or thin walls. If you have an old house like built 1650ish (using rocks, lumber, loam,...) with real walls (40 to 50 cm) you have no chance of getting a 5 Ghz signal to another room. 2.4 Ghz cisco accesspoints with multi antennas do the job quite well, they get through the walls with ease. I tried 5Ghz in mesh and non mesh configurations which kind of helps, but in total you require more accesspoints for the same area (tried different manufactures: Asus, Ubiquiti, AVM).
Plus I don't care about interference of other networks (all neighbors are far away enough)...
So in conclusion it depends on each specific usecase ;-)
2.4 GHz is sooo last year
ThioJoe why aren't you in a shirt and tie babe
Last year was nearly 8 months ago....time flies
ThioJoe jokes on you I had 5G last year
Think I'll wait for 10GHz, when the wavelength is such that it can't escape the plastic on the antenna. But by eck will it be fast, lol
Boomgamer104 deffo yep just try and u'll see the difference then 👍
In theory your arguments are true and well presented. In practice, you see many more people having issues with 5GHz. Constant drop outs and reconnects mean that 2.4GHz ends up much faster.
Processing power in smartphones and tablets mean that this along with a poorly written OS and App's mean that WiFi is unlikely to be the bottleneck...for everything else there's cable (and if needed, powerline adapters).
Another good informative video though!
that means the network wasnt designed properly. Your network is only as good as your design.
I have a gaming router I disable the 5ghz and just use the 2.4ghz on channel 1 with the transmit power set to low. Great distance, great reliability, speed is perfectly fine for smartphones/laptops even when steaming. (The really data heavy / latency sensitive stuff like my gaming PC and Apple TV are wired). The distance means I can use my Wi-Fi parked up on the street outside my house. Also 2.4ghz is safer for health. Yes the waves travel further but they are not able to be stoped by things because of the long wave length, things like walls and more importantly YOU!
Good stuff. Just a clarification which I believe you implied:
Light waves--in the same medium--travel at exactly the same velocity ("c" in a vacuum). The 5GHz frequency must have a shorter wavelength than the 2.4GHz frequency because:
c = (wavelength X frequency)
(increasing one value reduces the other as c is a constant value in a given medium)
More waves per second can carry more binary information. But the velocity in the same environment of these two light wavelengths are identical. Neither travels "faster" than the other. Regards, Eric.
One cannot click off a video if they are on a phone.
(unless you connect a Bluetooth mouse)
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Geneous thinking! It is too little focus on important issues like that these days
Home button
HOME BUTTON (triggered android power user)
lol what about the power/lock button?
WOW, very informative. The guy who installed my internet told me, "Don't bother with the 5G, it's got no range." Well, I'm only 20ft from my router and behind one wall. I changed from the 2.4GHz to 5 just now and my speed went from 34 to *150Mbps*!
all i know is that my router lights up
Devin Pinder I know right
all i know is how to turn on router 😕
Nice R34
Watched halfway through the video before realizing that my computer only has Ethernet 😓
2 different locations and 5 different wifi routers tested and 2.4GHz wins for me, way too many connection problems on 5GHz. Walls killed it for me as well as for many others. But I must be one of the "smart asses" you are referring to so what do I know...
@ThioJoe: I wanted to add that while this video is good, and accurate, people who have a good understanding of networking are going to usually always choose a wired connection over wireless anyway. To cut down on interference and throughput, and latency issues that can still be present with any wireless connection vs wired.
I would break down the recommendations as follow:
Ethernet whenever possible
5ghz 80211ac, or 80211n
2.4ghz n, and G as a last resort, if you're in an area where options are slim.
What if my link rate on wifi is over 2 Gbps? Would you still recommend ethernet?
@@Henfredemars I would still suggest wired yes. I am not sure if a 2Gps connection is even possible for consumer grade gear (even over the LAN.) Certainly not on 2.4ghz, probably not on 5 either. Maybe on 6Ghz once it's more established.
The only 2Gbp connections I'm aware of are Ethernet only. Also consider that Ethernet is Full Duplex, while even with the advances in wireless, it's still only Half Duplex, so Ethernet is still going to give you overall better transfers and other traffic management without bottlenecks, or interference, or other issues Wifi suffer from.
@@macinman it's absolutely possible. I have a 4x4 AX base and a 3x3 card, 160 MHz channel entirely in DFS to get the whole band to myself. I'll occasionally see link rates in excess of 3 Gbps.
I did not consider that it's half duplex however! That's a big difference.
@@Henfredemars Until recently I've used Wifi 5, recently I upgraded to a TP-Link AX4400, the only wifi 6 devices I have are my iPhone 12 Pro Max, and the newest Apple TV 4K model. Beyond that most of my wifi devices are smart bulbs and run on 2.4ghz only, and the other 5Gh devices are only N, or AC. So I think in that configuration Ethernet is still the best connection. Also, I'm paying for 400 Mbps down and 20 Mbps up for my internet. So on a Gigabit wired connection i usually get around 480 down and 23 up. Now with the new router, wireless is actually in the same ballpark as wired finally, but I still don't know if I'd get the speeds you're talking, unless all devices supported it on the LAN side, certainly not from the ISP.
@@macinman hey, I bought that router Thursday! I was moving from an Asus AX68U with unexpected reboots during the week. It was a fantastic deal for a 4x4 AX unit. I don't really care for TP-Link software, but it seems solid so far.
The speeds I'm seeing are LAN only for the ideal case of a desktop AX client with a recent Intel card. I'm more willing to spend on my wifi because I live in a crowded complex with several dozen neighboring networks, especially to get on the DFS channels that nobody else is using. My Plex server really feels the difference. My Roku units don't have a wired option or even AX, but they benefit from DFS.
New Wi-Fi standard adoption is so slow. 2.4 is a mess. I can't control what my neighbor's use. I wire what can be wired. Unfortunately that's not a whole lot of devices.
Meanwhile, my smart switches are just now moving on to wireless-n on 2.4.
I haven't even heard of such a thing until i saw ur notification.. ^^" im living in a rock.. 💔😂 thanks!
nerds, i use 3.7 GHz, combining the speed of 5 GHz and the wall penetration of 2.4 GHz
If your confuse of those options this will help you.
Use 2.4GHz if your connecting to your neighbor or your connecting far away to your router.
Use 5GHz if your router was near to you, or your router in room and want best wifi speed
ETHERNET MASTERRACE
Nathan Sanchez thanks
ethernet is love, ethernet is life
I'm poor so I can't. I don't even have a house. I don't have internet connection
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I suppose you wrote this comment from school wifi
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Abe Obaid why do u wanna know hmm
Refract Plays because u in school and don’t have a job what else
Thank you, Joe! My FTP speed shot by from 1.5 MB/s to 5MB/S. Which doesn't seem like a lot but, when you're dealing with huge file sizes, it's a lifesaver.
Considering the difference and what you started out with every bit helps. I was once on DSL that only ran at 3 Mbps so I know the pain of slow connections. I had dialup before that too and that is the only thing worse.
For Samsung wireless printer, ATT wifi router and Comcast wifi router interfere and prevent printer setup. So, one freq. is shutdown on each for set up. One printer is on the low freq. 2.4 and one is on the higher freq 5.4.
My 5 GHz has so low range that I literally have to put my phone next to the router
Sounds like you need a new router, my friend. Not necessarily expensive; Just new, and with newer specifications.....
@@stevenp.sparks2953 It's been 3 years since I commented that and I do now have a new router which the 5GHz works great on. It works great as long as I'm on the same floor as the router.
4:06 we know, we still don't use even the max of that. You're argument will still be mute until Wifi 7 comes out or we start uploading 8K content. Cause... Then it wouldn't be much of an argument cause Wireless N's kinda thrown out the window by now. Companies will leave the old tech to rot, they won't return to good oldays-MICROSOFT TPM OS KILLER. Cough... Sorry that was irrelevant of me.
Excuse me. If there is one thing I can’t stand is for someone to call me “stupid” without calling me “stupid”. It’s not what you say, it’s how you say it.
Oh, I was indeed calling you stupid ;)
ThioJoe like I said, it’s joe you say things by trying to be “funny or sarcastic”. Unsubscribe.
Lol
Cameron Kord i bet he is so sad right now
It’s not what you say, it’s how you say it. ??? Crazy... It’s what you say.
5 GHz is also less likely to penetrate concrete walls. If you live in a busy wi-fi situation, that could mean a less noisy signal.
Used to be a network engineer, now I'm a physicist. This is a good TLDR on 2.4ghz VS 5ghz WiFi, there are a few extra things to add. Being on a different channel doesn't stop one from interfering with another even if they don't overlap, wave mechanics shows colliding waves are mutually destructive with the strongest signal surviving the most. 2.4ghz doesn't just have better range, it has better obstacle penetration on the quantum level, think of the double-slit experiment.
My advice, stuff everything you can on 5ghz and keep 2.4ghz for devices that either can't use 5ghz or for mobile devices that you use in more than one location in your home or work environment.
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I have 5 routers running around my property. AC N and B. B is the oldest standard. What I noticed is the 2.4 is crap on the AC routers. The N A B 2.4 on the older routers works consistently and speed is faster. If you have to use the 2.4 use an old router. There is no point in upgrading to an AC router without AC devices as a future proofing.
Thio... The FCC only allows use of 8 of the 100 5Ghz channels....
I currently only use 2.4, and have 5 switched off. I prefer a constant strong signal with higher range, and always knowing how a device is connected. Also I have devices that are only 2.4. I have a fixed channel set too. Yes, I think the shorter range of 5 has the advantage of less interference too. I may start using 5 for some devices though mostly because of the extra channels. I also prefer to use a wired connection when I can too.
the thought of a strong 5g wifi router emitting a signal through our bodies 24/7 scares me
Then what about normal light? Normal light is on the THz, thousands of times more powerful than a GHz. Also, the antennas on your router are probably less than a watt. A light bulb has way more watts
use tinfoil and cover your head with it dummy
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Been watching for years now, but I don't think I'd be considered a long time subscriber, but Anywho. Love your videos
Many routers emit both 2.5 and 5G at the same time. It's every now. We live in an irradiated world, although it's non-ionizing so maybe it's not too bad.
2.0 GHz : WiFi Range (350m) (Normal)
4.0 GHz : WiFi Range (150m) (Fast)
5 GHz : Fast Speed Internet (70m) (Very Fast)
I from Indonesian
Tested : TP Link
If anyone is still reading the comments, I need some huge help! Would a 2.4ghz with a Ethernet cable plugged into my pc be faster/ the same as a WIRELESS 5ghz?
An Ethernet connection is always faster than any Wifi connection but if you have other wireless devices using Wifi aside from your desktop it can make a difference.
@@TheGreatOne16439 A Fast Ethernet connection (100mbps) is not faster than 801.11ac with say a 433mbps link
@@rexsceleratorum1632 Many ethernet connections are faster than 100 mbps, up to 1000 mbps. But in general, wired connections are still faster and more reliable than most Wifi connections. Your case maybe a rare exception though.
@@TheGreatOne16439 You realize that your original statement was "An Ethernet connection is always faster than any Wifi connection"?
But to answer the original commenter, cheap 2.4GHz-only AP's usually only have Fast Ethernet (100mbps) switches. If they are capable of a 150mbps+ 802.11n link, then WiFi will be faster depending on congestion. Any cheap AC1200 router will provide a faster WiFi link as well.
But even 5GHz routers may cut costs by having FE switches, with the assumption that people prioritize WiFi. An example is Netgear R6120.
So no, it is not a fringe exception to have faster WiFi than Ethernet. But Ethernet wins at reliability and consistency.
While my portable broadband supports 5GHz mode only. Can't select dual mode (2.4GHz and 5GHz). Either 2.4GHz or 5GHz only can be choose. But remember, older device don't work with 5GHz network.
Is there a 4ghz cuz that is what my CPU uses if not then how have I been connecting to the Wi-Fi 😕
Timon Stacy I hope that this a joke. 😂
You're special, that's how.
XENITH CG oh I'm special just like everyone else cool
I really hope that is a joke
Juan Camel what is a joke
The disadvantages of 5Ghz is range. With 2.5Ghz you are likely to be able to use it in the average house, but with 5 it’s possible that people beyond the household can use it. If they do, they’re on your network and can reach your devices.
In the military we would stick a pencil in one antenna mount. This gave that one radio a very short range, perfect for inter-troop communications but due to the very short range it was almost impossible to eavesdrop. As a practical example, if a target appeared the gunner would scream “MINE”, this let the other tanks in the troop that you were engaging and not to engage that target. This left the other tanks available to engage fresh targets. Even if you heard this there’s nothing, as the enemy, you could do as a 120mm anti-tank round was already headed your way.
Be quiet buddy! We do not want an overcrowded 5 Ghz band.
It was good. I only use 5 ghz already. I knew the pros and cons earlier... So thanks for further explanation.
I use 2.4 GHz. Less Microwaves frying my brain.
trapped cat haha
lower frequencies penetrate things better (including your skull) so that's a bit counterproductive
@@OqwertThen why does 5G kill plants and pets faster?
@@RogerWittekind it doesn't, visible light has a much higher frequency and it doesn't kill plants and pets.
@@Oqwert riiight
All I know is that the lower the frequency, the longer the range and obstacle penetration...higher gets me more bandwith. More people on a particular frequency, more collisions. As more people migrate to the higher frequencies, the more available the longer range lower freqs. are to my disposal. I am pretty sure I can use a shitty 900Mhz cordless phone more effectively today than I could in the 80s or early 90s when that spectrum was saturated at that time. Fundamentally it bottoms down to what I am using it for. I shouldn't use the lower frequencies for HDMI streaming. But, it perfectly serves to control a long range drone.
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I am running a security system that can work on 2.4 GHZ. I also found there is more range with the 2.4 GHZ band. I realize the 5 GHZ has more speed when there is a lot of traffic on the network, and more bandwidth. I realize the other advantages of 5 GHZ.
My phone supports 5GHz.
that is good news
Same
Kyle2000 so what?
every phone nowadays supports 5GHz
No, its the manufacturers decision to build it in. Some late model devices dont have 5.
5Ghz cell was just reported to give adverse effects to firefighters they did the testing at the station. I'm happy with 2.4, and I shut the wireless off when not in use, as should be. Last thing you want is a frequency strength that can alter and effect living tissue cells and cause any alteration.
When you're old laptop doesn't support 5ghz... :(
Is there an adapter card that I can buy that makes my laptop have access to 5ghz? I'm not sure what to look for.
You could get a 5GHz Wi-Fi USB dongle for cheap.
BPEK Supra Interactive when you see someone using the wrong form of your... :(
If your laptop has mini PCIe 1x them you can buy a new pcie wifi card
open up your laptop and look for the wifi card. buy a 5ghz mini pci-e wifi card and put it into your laptop
When you are laptop doesnt support 5ghz
the AT&T 5268AC gateway has both 2.4 and 5Ghz functions. one TH-cam channel showed setup and both functions were enabled. wouldn't running both frequencies mess up WiFi devices?
quick update: just learned that both freqs can be used for band steering with the latest firmware. some people are having trouble, but separate addresses should not be needed.
Watch at 1.5x speed. You'll thank me later.
Or don't watch at all!
On my D-Link DIR-882 AC2600 router, you have to disable “Smart Connect” if you want to have separate access to either the 2.4 or 5 GHz bands from your devices. Otherwise, the router is supposed to pick the best for you. This causes problems sometimes so I recommend setting it to Disable.
I SIMPLY CAN'T USE 5 GHZ I AM UPSTAIRS IN MY HOUSE!
I can only use it when I'm near the router.
If you’re going to stable connection instead of speed due to brick wall, I would suggest you DISABLE 5G to enable stronger 2.4 WiFi. That’s what I have experienced
Who’s using 5GHz to watch this video?
Where I live, the only kind of WiFi we can use is 2.4Ghz since the ISP that services the area forces all customers to use equipment from the late 1990s.
My router sends two signals. 2.4 AND 5. I have the choice.
My toaster does this too
My Router has both but in the Wifi settings I can switch one or the other off!
Michael Cruise yeah that's not the same
Michael Cruise - apparently my iPad was conflicting with 2.4 and 5 ghz - so my isp changed it to 2.4 ghz only - now it works perfect
I have a question I live way out in the country far away from everyone else and I only have one neighbor with Wi-Fi I have a D-link AC 3200 ultra Wi-Fi router for about two years now and I have absolutely loved it, its a tri-band router so it has one 2.4GHz band and two 5 GHz band I was wondering if I should disable the 2.4 GHz band altogether and just have the router broadcast the two 5GHz band? On average I normally have about 22 devices connected to it between my family and my smart home devices
5 Ghz DOES NOT have less PHYSICAL interferences. There is nothing wrong 2.4ghz (you said that word for word in your video. 80% the physical area of the country is NOT crouded on 2.4ghz. Ahhh I just relized this is a JOKE video.
this video isn't a joke. he stopped making joke videos a long time ago.
Tom Peters I agree this guy is a dumbass
5GHz is better though. Your comment is the JOKE
Let me tell you a joke.
5 hgz
Johnny Tangstad Let me tell you a joke.
Your face 😂
I live where our neighbors aren't very close so i have very little worry about interference. The main issue would be speed. Doesn't matter to me anyway though because I use Ethernet.
I dont even have fast internet to even care about what GHz i use i have 5 Mbps with a cap of 100 GB then it becomes 1 Mbps unlimited and i even consider it good internet so HA!!!
you can say that yes
If your router supports dual band/5GHz, enable it and speed test on your phone/device. Then speed test with 2.4GHz. Repeat this test with both bands while you move to another room or further from router. I have found at least 10+Mbps speed increase with 5GHz when in same room with router.
What you say concerning performance is all good but .... 2.4 GHz is already damaging people health, 5GHz will be a lot more dangerously damaging .....
Are you actually an Idiot
Lol, so back then routers only had 1 option😴, I'm glad now they come with both Ghz on 1 router and can power both on at same time n choose which 2 connect to🙌🏾😴
what if 2.4GHz is faster than 5GHz in my living room? (also ethernet is the only thing i use on any desktop pc that's in range of the cable length)
Because what Thio says is true as long as there are no walls in the world and everything is straight line of sight. 2.4ghz travels better and further through obstacles. If you sit in your room all day next to your wifi baking router into your body, then 5 ghz is faster. I use 2.4 alot and would 2.4 for reliabilty than 5 for speed. Need speed? PLUG IN.
i know, i'm not stupid
Thank you for helping me make the decision to go from the 2.4 ghz wifi to 128 mhz.
I use 2.4 for health purposes. I feel sicker with 5GHz. Also I unplug my wifi at night and turn off all wifi at night.
lol
This is called the placebo effect
I have been using the ac (5gHZ) since I got my super slick TP-Link Router and of course devices that use WiFi ac. My router is a bit old but I get a rock solid 399 mbps all the time within my apartment even with 3 devices connected. Great info as usual!
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Also the often overlooked point in building a quality wireless network, is it must be built on top of a quality wired network, not instead of.
Using ethernet for all non-mobile devices like desktops, workstations, servers and network infrastructure, including: if you have to use multiple APs for roaming to cover a large house, have all connected to the central switch instead of using them as "repeaters".
Makes all wireless bandwidth available for the only channels that actually requires it: links between APs and mobile devices.
I stopped my 2,4 Ghz router, CAUSE YOU SAID SO, and now my internet connection is broken
Maybe your device not support 5 ghz
Johnny Tangstad And yet magically you were still able to post this?!?!!
Rob Fowler yes I suppose so
Johnny Tangstad Then your internet connection lives on. It is not broken.
Rob Fowler how can you tell?
Thanks for videos, Joe. Just bought Nighthawk R6700 for my 7 wifi devices. Two of my devices require high bandwidth committment - Roku boxes streaming Hulu live TV. The other devices are two phones, an old laptop, and two Android tablets. I put the two streaming Roku devices on the 5 GHz band and the slower, less bandwith sensitive devices on the 2.4 GHz band. All devices are working wonderfully this way. It seems very logical to me. However, I now have to admit that I'm not sure if this is the best strategy. Would putting all devices on 5 GHz band slow down my Roku connections? (The old laptop is stuck at 802.11g however.) It really depends on how the router works I guess... thoughts Joe or anyone else?
No takers? Works beautifully in my home, maybe I'm a genius...
i prefer 99GHz myself
wasn't there 60 something GHz for things like wireless VR?
ya 200ghz its so fast but man that range i have to be literally be right next to it to work
I live in a brick house with lots of walls. If you're in a similar arrangement don't invest in an expensive router. Just get a couple cheap WiFi repeaters, you'll be much better off (even though repeaters are pretty shitty)
they really are. my speed is 20mbps but the repeaters give me like 6mbps so i have to go wired.
That'll teach you to live in a house with walls.
increase cancer radiation from 2.4x to 5x ..
I would not upgrade to 5ghz connection because i am not sure about two things:
1 ) I don’t know if i will have wifi all over my house
2 ) I am not sure if my laptip is going to connect to a 5ghz connection cuz i think that 5ghz connection connects only to newer devices , not to older devices.
my head hurts if the 5 ghz is open for a long time
The government is trying to get everyone onto 5 Ghz for the new wifi standard to interconnect and take over control. Be careful of 5 ghz.
Well, just try it at 2.4 ang 5 ghz separately for a day just working on either, you can toggle in modem gui.
carlitos vodka Your head is hurting from too much internet too fast!!! Take is slow and try to rehydrate between sessions!
It's called placebo effect. If you are convinced that it hurts, it will hurt.
Since I have a tri band router, I have one 5ghz band delicates to my desktop, the other 5ghz for laptop, tablet, phones. Then I use the 2.4 for internet of things like my nest thermostat and devices that only support it.
I liked my own comment, let's see where this goes
10 likes yet ;p
congratulations
You know what they say. It's not a sin, but each time you do it, it becomes a little less special! Liking yourself I mean. What did you think I was talking about?
Emmett YOU FOOL!!!!
2.4GHz works with AC standard. That means, MU-MIMO, OFDMA, BSS Coloring, everything works with 2.4ghz. Yes, the speed it less, but now you dont get interference with other pleb 2.4ghz in the area. This is a definite win. And wifi 6 routers from xiaomi are now as cheap as 50-70$ with wifi speeds upto 3000 mbps.
I think you mean the AX standard. AC is 5GHz only.
Most of the benefits of AX depend on everyone else using it too, whereas 2.4 is already polluted with lots of legacy devices.
@@Henfredemars Yes most definitely
my father in law works for IBM and 2.4 has better security. sorry Joe, way ahead of you on this one.
Nirethia I would say the fact that 5ghz has less range makes it less susceptible to eavesdropping. With the ciphers and protocols being the same not allowing the guy down the street to even see your network seems like a benefit.
To help with the eavesdropping-issue some routers even let you change the transmission power of each band letting you limit the range which in some cases (as in, you just need the connection for your own bedroom) can be of great benefit :)
I use 5GHz sometimes at some area if their router use 5GHz and 2.4GHz.
2.4GHz is no.1 option because it can backward compatible with older device with 2.4GHz only support.
But nowadays, most device (at least low end) can support 5GHz and 2.4GHz while entry level phone still use 2.4GHz (mostly 3G based phone).
Thanks for another joke video!
You use both and there is no reason not to, yes there is more interference and less channels on the 2.4GHz band but it has greater compatibility and greater range but that comes at expense of lower throughput. 5GHz on the other hand has higher throughput but that comes at the expense of range. Therefore putting in a 5GHz only network is likely to cost more in the long run as, depending on the thickness of the walls, you WILL need range extenders to give you the extra range and that just adds extra cost to running a wireless network, if you're going to do that then just spend the money buying wired kit and have a completely wired network instead which is more secure anyway.
So, therefore your reason for NOT using 2.4GHz is interference and available channels which is well known. Most routers will work around interference anyway by looking for the least congested channel.
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For our family we do better with the 2.4. We are in a 2 story house nearly 3000 sq ft with usually 5-7 devices connected at once. I notice our speed slows down SIGNIFICANTLY when I switch the router over to 5ghz. We pay for 150mbps through our internet provider....typically only runs at 50mbps when I test it though. I guess it’s all up to what works best for each individual household. Great video though!😁
we also disabled the 2.4 GHz of us wifi today, 2.4 GHz slows down download speed and streaming speed, good video's that you share on TH-cam🙂
5GHz is great if you live in a one room open loft with no walls.
If you really want good internet connectivity then use Ethernet for everything fixed in place and Ethernet Backhauling Mesh WiFi with as many AP's needed to get a strong signal.
Truth is 5GHz through walls and longer distances (as low as 15' + walls / objects) sucks .. 2GHz is often better and more stable.
This is very true. 5ghz doesnt work in countries where houses need to be constructed using concrete rather than cheap dry wall in the US. In our house we have multiple ubiquiti ap on our ceiling because 5ghz cant penetrate some rooms.
This is great information. You obviously did your homework on this subject. Thanks.
Good video! I'm actually going to watch this again because it breaks down a lot of common issues people have with wifi. This helps me explain things to them a lot.
I only use 5 in my home because I have a nearby access point but, more importantly for me, any extra range that I might get from 2.4 is going outside my home and I don't need or want that.
well.. i unsubscribed some time ago (like 3 or 4 years) but hey. im glad to see you are actually making content that is pretty decent. im resubscribing
get what you say and it makes sence ... until the ever increasing amount of 5ghz devices flood the band and they have to choose another one, also the jury is still out on the range (distance) of 5ghz as they are allready talking about a 5ghz repeater in every room if your interior walls are brick and 5ghz has shadow issues but its new and ineresting so here we go
I have 50 mbit/s internet anyway, is it worth it? (Apparently this is considered unacceptably slow by some people but I don't even notice any lack of speed) even after testing between 2.4 and 5 GHz the speed increase is only slight. And I work in my garage a lot which is over 100 feet from my house.
The FCC needs to broaden the spectrum for WiFi, the 2.4 GHz band is hopelessly over crowded. 5 GHz is not inherently better but is less congested right now but will likely be just as over crowded in the future. WiFi is not very reliable and any device that lacks a true wired network connection is rubbish and not usable for serious work. The quoted speeds for WiFi (802.11X) are all bullshit.
My router has both enabled at the same time . The device chooses which one is best . Not that it really matters , as my connection is only about 8mbps.
I use 2.4 because the range is much higher and the 5 GHz is for 4k streaming on the TV. Also cable is still faster and has not that huge drops. But 5ghz is for sure the better connection method in short range.
Can I use both at the same time instead of splitting between the 2? as I have that option to use both at the same time. Whats the better option? I split both and will try each manually. I live in a small apt so yeah ill see what fits me best. thx. and my tv for Netflix. I usually use my wifi in bedroom and my routers are behind the wall not far from bedroom
if i want speed i wire it. mobile devices, what am i doing that needs that much speed. if im outside in the garage ill take what i can get. better signal. if its 2.4ghz, whatever. when its in range with good signal i usually use the 5ghz. when it comes to my devices, i probably only have a couple that are ac compatible anyway.
03:30 You dont get that speed from 5ghz, unless you are in an open field.
5ghz have way worse penetration and range than 2.4ghz, therefor the speed you are showing does in no way represent the speed you are getting, mainly because the penetration is so much worse that the signal getting through is strugling more than 2.4 and it has "run out of energy".
Every wifi/internet speeds are always best case scenarios, where every surrounding are made to provide the best possible signal/results.
Though, i have had fiber for nearly six years now, and i have never dropped below the speeds im paying for, mainly because fiber travels/works in different ways than copper.
And so many wifi router manufacturer, wich device have both 2.4 and 5, adds the speeds together creating a false advertising; 300 on 2.4 and 600 on 5 they advertise as a maximum of 900
Hello from nearly 4 years in the future. About a year ago I bought a Roku Express 4K+ device for my Dad and it worked on 5GHz. However two months ago I had to buy a new Roku for myself, just a Roku Express and it only supported 2.4GHz, in 2022. WTAF?!? I can't imagine the 5GHz chips are that much more expensive. What makes it worse is that my xFinity modem/router doesn't allow me to change the channel like a typical Router would.