DIY Dot Violin Finger Placement Measurements | FULL SIZE (4/4) VIOLIN
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- Where to put the dots, tape, stickers or markers for finger placement and measurement on the violin.
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These measurements are for a FULL SIZE (4/4) violin:
1:08 - 1st Dot = 36mm
1:50 - 2nd Dot = 68mm
1:58 - 3rd Dot = 82mm
2:10 - 4th Dot = 108mm
*NEW VIOLA MEASUREMENTS* these were found by one of my subscribers, Johnny Dang. **I HAVE NOT TESTED THESE MEASUREMENTS MYSELF**:
Full size/14 inch viola:
Dot 1: 1 5/16 (3.5 cm)
Dot 2: 2 1/2 (6.6 cm)
Dot 3: 3 1/16 (8 cm)
Dot 4: 4 1/16 (10.7 cm)
3/4 / 13 inch viola:
Dot 1: 1 1/4 (3.3 cm)
Dot 2: 2 7/16 (6.2 cm)
Dot 3: 3 (7.6 cm)
Dot 4: 3 15/16 (10 cm)
16 inch viola:
Dot 1: 1 1/2
Dot 2: 2 7/8
Dot 3: 3 9/16
Dot 4: 4 11/16
15 inch viola:
Dot 1: 1 7/16
Dot 2: 2 13/16
Dot 3: 3 7/16
Dot 4: 4 9/16
3/4 size cello:
Dot 1: 2 7/8
Dot 2: 4 5/8
Dot 3: 5 3/4
Dot 4: 8 1/16
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For quick reference:
1st Dot --- 36mm
2nd Dot ---68mm
3rd Dot --- 82mm
4th Dot ---108mm
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@@TheOnlineViolinTutor where does the dots go if it's a 1/2 violin?
@@TheOnlineViolinTutor can you put measurements for third position too please?
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Just got my new violin today, yay! Bridged it, rosined it and dotted it. Thank you for the dot measurements. Tuned it by the 4th dot from G... so easy now.
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Well my first week down and I have been watching your videos like crazy. I was going nuts trying to find a way to figure out how to place my fingers. Thank you so much! Being stationed away from my family this has given me something to practice and show my kids that hard work will pay off.
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Oh my god! I feel touched when I saw this Video that explain me when the mark should place on ! Thank you soooooo much !
Many violin tutors skip the dots, so without the dots, finger muscle memory was delayed. Thank you Alison for helping in this early process of notes.
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thank you so much for saying what they are in centimeters. because I couldn't find anybody else who would give that measurement.
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Yes!! Finally someone giving measurements! Upgraded to a full size and been looking for where to put my fingers! Thanks so much, subbed and like
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I watched the lesson 1 before this and was wondering how to measure to put the marks. Great teachings even after 9 years since upload
thanks especially on where to put the dots on the violin easy to follow
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You are a lifesaver! I've been looking everywhere to find out where to put finger placement stickers, thank you so much! Subscribed :-)
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Thank you for this video. Helps out!
Really a great teacher! I have always been wondering how people put their fingers at the right points (it was really quite confusing, specially for someone had not played the violin at all)
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Hey - I just wanted to say that I went to place to take lessons, and they put they stickers in the wrong place. I had been playing the violin wrong for a while. Your video seriously helped. Thank you!
thanks so much , bought my stickers yesterday... My violin arrives tomorrow. Now, i know where to put the dots :)
From where did u buy stickers?
Spot on! Excellent vid
Thanks, really appreciate the help.
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I used car pin stripe tape to do this. The 1/8" size tape is perfect for this. I was going to use dots but was afraid they would move around after a while and fall off.
Finally a proper video about placement. Thank you. :-D
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VERY GOOD VIDEO I have looked and looked for this info.
This helped so much! Thank you :) I can't afford lessons right now so I've been watching your channel a lot
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I shall apply them today to my violin..the music shop was hesitant to give me the stickers cuz they said it might ruin my violin..I think they meant the glue marks when I remove them? I'm applying them anyways today it's a student quality..I'm getting nowhere if I don't do it 😊
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Thanks. I've recently returned to the violin after 12 years of not playing. I got to grade 5 but my intonation is now shocking and I am back in an orchestra :o I'm giving in and adding stickers until I pick it up again!
I never had particularly good intonation, but since adding them I've found that I've trained my brain to think that a flat 1st finger on each string was correct. I was shocked at how far down 36mm is :o I would play the 3rd more in tune, because I had the g string to reference to on the d string and the 4th finger the next open string, but my 1st was always flat. Maybe I should have kept the stickers longer or my teacher should have put them back on when I was younger. My 'muscle memory' was wrong because I was listening for the wrong pitch!
I’m getting a violin for Christmas and had to hunt for stickers small enough. Thanks Alison 💜 this is super helpful
Hello. I'm getting a violin for my birthday to teach myself through these videos. How is your progress going so far? Best wishes, I hope you enjoy learning the violin!!!
1/8 inch pinstripe tape used for cars works great also. You can get it where they sell auto parts or order it on line. Its stays on the violin for a long time and easy to remove, won't cause any damage to the frett board. I cut a piece that goes across the 4 strings
Excellent
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Quite right. Thank you. Cheers.
I'm not sure if you've mentioned this in other videos, but I've been playing for 4 months now with a teacher and I'm still playing with stickers. When do you usually remove the stickers if you're dealing with an adult student with musical training + decent intonation?
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Thank you so much for these measurements! Could you please also tell me the distances from the nut for dots beyond first position?
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Hi, I really like your videos, I want to know how long should I use the finger placement measurements
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Here's a conversion for us yanks...
1st tape or dot 1.47 inches (just short of 1 1/2 inches)
2nd tape or dot 2.67 inches (just over 2 1/2 inches)
3rd tape or dot 3.22 inches (just under 3 1/4 inches)
4th tape or dot 4.25 inches (4 1/4 inches)
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Thank you so much miss !!! Can I use a tuner to calibrate more ?
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I played violin for two years a few years ago but now i want to pick it up again, would you recommend the Stentor II or Cecilio CVN300? Thanks!
I am watching your videos again. On a new instrument I play 12th half-step, then I play down from there and up again to hear and feel where the positions are, and I let the muscle memory do the rest. Which certificate is better, Hill or Baere?
Great video! I'd like to know what those distances are for 1/16 size violins -- I suppose it could just be figured out by ratios?
Mandolin1944 I dont know. The vast majority of my subscribers/watchers have full size violins. Try Google.
How about double checking the position of the dots with a guitar tuner (fret the note and see whether the tuner says it's spot on)? Obviously this only works if the open strings are perfectly in tune, but... that's what they should be anyway. :)
Yes, but for those who dont, or want to go out and buy one, they have these measurements and the whole process is free.
Where do u put the dots on a 3/4 violin?
If you put the edge of your ruler against the bottom of the nut and then make your mark alongside 36mm on the ruler, then that mark will be more than 36mm from the bottom of the nut because there is always a gap between the edge of the ruler and zero. This gap will vary between different makes of ruler.
This was great help!! Thanks!! But I have three questions for you!!
1. How much was the bow you usually use and the bow that was extremely light?
2. How much was your violin?
3. And what are all the instruments you play?
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Hey, can you tell me how many cm should there be between the first two dots? I need to be 100% positive that I did it right!! Thank you for the lessons, you're a life savor xxx
All measurements are under the video.
I'm quite new to the violin, but my question is it G-E or E-G on the marking?
Do the dots go in the center of the violin or underneath the second sting?
Is this measurement work for the 3/4 violin too?? thank you
Ma'am, I want to know the exact point of "F note" on "E string" in 4/4 size violin. Can you please tell me the exact measurement from the ridge?(just like you do in this video)
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Helped me a Lot. Thanks.
I couldn't find measurements for FOURTH position. There are even no stickers available.
PLEASE can you provide measurements for fourth position???
The same measurements would not work as the notes get closer as we go upwards.
Thanks a lot.
There are no measurents for 4th position as by the time you are playing in 4th position, you shouldnt need them!
U could also use the electronic tuner to find the finger placement from the corresponding note, right?
+operoverlord1984 Dont see why not, but probably not the best way to learn as you will then become reliant on it rather that using your ear.
I usually see most violins with 12 fret lines or dots plsssss make tutorial on that how to place each of them am having trouble getting fret stickers
Thank you!
Is it possible to find measurments for other positions?
yes but we dont really work them out through measurements as it gets really complicated. The higher into positions you go, the more they overlap and then it becomes a huge dot fest!
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Oh, thank you, I see!
I want to play in positions, but in traditional Irish and Swedish music it is in only 5% of tunes.)
For example, Martin Hayes plays great using first position only, but sometimes it is interesting to play "higher".)
So, it should be learned "by ear"?
are there any of the premade full layout stickers that you can recommend, or what to look for in a good one?
Dont buy them would be my advice. You dont need them and you should not be learning with them.
Im going to assume you are learning to play from my '1-30 Violi Course' so all the relevant information surrounding this is all in that course.
Hi, I have a question. Does putting stickers on the violin's neck does damage to it? should I use a special kind of stickers? Thank you for the tutorial.
No, not if they are the little dots like the ones Im using here.
I watched one of your old videos a few months ago where you explained where to put the sticker dots with the help of a piano and just by ear. I have put in 3 stickers as I am still on the third finger but my positions don’t match with yours in this video so which one is more accurate? I do play your videos on repeat and play with you the exercises and they sound quite the same.
Put your 3rd finger on the dot on the A string, and play that note with the open D string at the same time. The 3rd finger should be in tune with the open D (make sure your open D is in tune). If not, then adjust your 3rd finger/dot until it is.
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What size dot sticker would you recommend, or doesn't it really matter? Would 8mm be ok? Thanks. :)
I don’t know the precise measurement. Just those little ones that come in a pack at stationer shops.
I played now over 2 years with a lot of help from these video's. I'm still using a cheap violin. Never used stickers until today, because i never could get the tone right. The violin isn't that bad, it stays very good in tune. But what i noticed is that the first, second ... Fingers on each string differs from each other. For example An A on the G string is 33mm, on D string it's 35 on A string it's 36 and E string it's 38mm. The strings i use are dominants. But the question here that i have is, should these be on the same level? Because some other video's showed straight lines. I know it could be because of the violin, if they should be straight, is it possible to tweak the violin a little?
Stick one small dot in the middle between the D and A string. It will be enough for you to work on intonation from there.
can you make a 1/2 size finger placement video?
So what about the 3/4 violin .???.. i need to put some dotes and i have the 3/4 one ^^
Thank you for your videos BTW :)
tasneem ibrahim Try a google search?
The lengths are given in the description