Professional Violinists React to Violin Progress Videos
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"I've upgraded from the dark side back to normal." Every human that has ever had a middle school emo phase
when you’re kinda still in it
I went emo then to the darker side. Metal.
Jago Oswell Metal is not a phase, it is a commitment.
Don't fret the little the little stuff...
bummer. I thought Helena was the gal in TwoSet's video. I was sad when I found Helena has zero videos. I still wonder who the gal is. That was amazing progress! I wish I could do that! :-p
Twoset: you don’t shift till you are in Grade 3
Child prodigies: you wanna see some REAL SPEED?
Ha
i show you some real speed
Bumblebee intensifies
If you can shift slowly, you can shift quickly
If you can improve quickly you can improve slowly
My husband and I are 70 and 69 respectively and newly retired. We decided to keep our minds active we are going to learn to play new instruments. He the cello and me the violin. I just finished my 3rd lesson. We hope to make beautiful music together in the coming years. I loved this video. Thanks for the encouragement that you can always learn to play.
You can do it, Siri!! What a perfect way to 'age gracefully' and keep your brain healthy!!!
Dayum. I envy you...
That’s an awesome idea. My dad did that. Except he had a background in erhu (a string instrument) from his teens. So in his retirement years, he moved onto yangqin, and then flute. He got so good at it the past 10 years, he even performed for 6 years straight. He’s over 70 now.
Happy Retirement!!! Enjoy!!!
Happy retirement! Go for it! Looking forward to hearing you guys later...
"Adults learn faster, but they hit a plateau really quickly"-So true. I think for many adults it's a self-imposed plateau. They pick up violin quicker than children because they know what the violin should sound like. But then they get frustrated and hit a plateau because they know what the violin should sound like! Half the battle is in your mind!
I've always been like that. I'm really good right out of the gate and with a little practice, even in a week people think I've been doing it for over a year or two. Then I hit a plateau and decide if I want to put in more effort or not. By that time, I usually find that it's not for me or achieved what I set out to do. By comparison of the video, I was already doing vibrato and writing my own songs in just a month what takes beginners a year, but after that, I got stuck and decided it wasn't for me anymore.
Really nice comment!
Brett: *Plays flawlessly*
Also Brett: It’s hard to play without warming up
h u g e f l e x
He could’ve practiced before.
That was his warm up
grilled_babies_r _yum *big sigh*
i love a brett flexboi
@@laggyfilms4768 *big oof*
Being mostly self-taught, she probably doesn't realize what she "can't" do, so she just goes ahead and does it
I didn't see a guitar irl until I was 15 and the first thing I played was the intro to Fast Car by Tracy Chapman and Scar Tissue by RHCP because they were my favourite songs
I honestly don't believe she did that in 2 years
@@Mesanin3 Scar Tissue? Damn bro
Same! Thats how i learned kalimba ocarina and ukulele :))
So much THIS!
I'm a self taught pianist and the thing I've noticed is that self taught players tend to learn by playing pieces they like which often means you're "running before you can walk". On the one hand it's good because you're learning through exploration and don't get bored playing really basic pieces, but on the other hand you might not pick up the fundamentals of the instrument and the theory, and can develop bad habits.
This is exactly how I'm feeling. Its been a month since getting a keyboard trying to learn all the songs I like, but I feel like I'm shooting myself in the foot by not going to a teacher If I want to learn properly
Totally agree!
What I like to do for hobbies like this is to learn and grind the fundamentals 50% of the time, and spend the other 50% just goofing off and doing what I like, and remembering why I started learning the skill in the first place.
Exactly that. Cause I’ll learn a very hard piece any day. And memorize it and not really know much of anything else. I first learned cello and learned about half of cello suite No 1 within a few months
Facts
psa: it is never too late to start an instrument!
I started playing viola when I was 13, which seems early in comparison to the adults in the video, but still meant that I was around 5 years behind my peers. My parents discouraged it because they thought it would be too much to catch up to. However, I think this actually helped me in the long run, because I was more passionate, and so didn't become apathetic or quit like a lot of other kids. I'm proud to say, after two years, I'm now at relatively the same level as the kids my age who have been playing 7+ years. I'm even doing my first concerto competition this year!
In conclusion, music is an amazing hobby that should have no age or experience limit to start
Yeah I would have thought differently in the past but now I know it’s not true. Just do it
we literally have the same story, I started viola around 2 years ago as well when I was also 13 and now I play extremely well for how long I've been playing and I'm even above some who started wayy before me
It's always too late, but the second best time is right now.
Bro i started viola like 4 months ago and i just had my first concert. Massive w to anyone who plays viola
When he said "Adults learn faster, but they hit a plateau really quickly", I felt that.
_cries on plateau_
LMAOO Meeee xd
Same dude
I think it's normal though
@@kinarast yeah it’s normal but it’s so relatable how you don’t find that out until you do it😂 like all adult beginners k
Think they’re prodigies after a year and then sadly have a plateau in improvement😭
Why is that exactly ? Is there any theory to support that ?
Lesson learned: Starting young doesnt make you a prodigy, practice does.
You may want to Google what a prodigy is
@@CoastGraffiti Prodigy is often used, but not limited to kids pal. Its someone of or with very great ability of something. It´s usually refered to children who grow up with immense talent, but is very much not limited too. But feel free google it mate and actually look up a dictonary
Grand G never said it was limited to kids. A prodigy is someone who is naturally or unusually good at something. You can’t practice to be a prodigy, you are usually born as one.
Edit: to clarify, you don’t have to be born as a prodigy, you can become one later in life, but you can’t practice to be a prodigy like this person is saying.
@@CoastGraffiti No shit sherlock, thats what my whole comment is about, aka we arent all born with talent, practice makes you talented, you can still be a prodigy. Did you honestly watch the video mate? These people seem pretty naturally talented to me hence why their progress is so quick.
Grand G you can’t become a prodigy, you have to be one
I wonder if some adult beginners progress faster without a teacher but with videos because they don't know what is considered difficult and just learn what interests them. This could lead to gaps that need to be filled in later but may be more natural (at least for some people).
@UrBoyJuan i’m complete agree, my first piece was fur elise and i legitimately played the full piece in about 5 months from complete begginer. it wasn’t perfect but looking back at videos it was definitely an average performance. I didn’t care about learning techniques or what was too difficult but just did whatever i felt like. This is why im kinda against formal standardized teaching because it underestimates what we can grasp when we’re completely new. I’m a jazz pianist now, and i can’t imagine where i’d be if i had started playing very cookie cutter pieces with the usual beginner practices.
one of the world class piano players learned what is considered by many the hardest piece in a week. Her response was that "no one told her it was hard". Of course some aspects of learning a hard piece are factual but there is definitely an edge to psyching yourself out on hard pieces I think.
Even a piece above someones level is still learnable, just more practice overall.
i think people who are willing to put in the effort to teach themselves violin for more than a week are dedicated enough to learn faster than a lot of people who are forced into it.
I started piano at 20 and Fantasie Impromptu was my first piece lol.
@UrBoyJuan and your more implied to learn a song that you can throughly enjoy which will help you to keep trying and not give up compared to leaning a bunch of easy and slowly harder stuff over the years
So I turned 40 in November, and bought my first violin a week ago. I don't expect progress like this, but 23+ years of guitar playing has hammered home the importance of practice. Here we go! 🎻
Update?
@@therudimentroom I've been practicing religiously, have gotten a better violin, and am currently working on a few pieces including "Test Flight" from How to Train Your Dragon, the theme from Last of the Mohicans, and Spring from Vivaldi's Four Seasons. Thanks for asking! 😊
@@nerdthusiasm4788 update 2?
@@rainyee-pc5lf I feel so seen! 😊 Scales. Always scales! I play with my tuner app running to make sure my pitch is good, am meticulous about my bowing, and am making great progress. Brett and Eddie are right. Ling Ling Wannabes are the best people. Thanks for asking!
@@nerdthusiasm4788 scales and tuning are godly, yes
update 3.. maybe?
I love how the camera quality also improves as the violinist progresses
2 years is a huge gap for affordable cameras of good quality.
those are the phone cameras for sure :D
Meanwhile 2sets camera focus in Ling Ling 40 hours is still as blurry as ever
While twoset still out of focus after 6 years :') (joke, i love u twoset❤)
Camera quality? On two set? Pfft
90%: brett and eddy being flexed on by beginners
10%: brett and eddy flexing on us
Ling ling wannabes: *getting immensely flexed on*
Yeah that ending, flexing hard. Love it
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Hi, just wanted to say you guys are great. I started learning last January and I'm 56 years old. I'm completely in love with my violin.
How's it going?
@@valeriagomez1982 he dropped it
Did u drop it
Thank you for encouraging adults to learn how to play an instrument. Your humble respect has to mean a lot to these learners. These videos show it can be done and that practice is the key!
Me, who's been saying for years that I'm too old to start playing again:
"Well sh*t"
Played violin when i was 14, stopped because i couldnt progress, im 21 maybe its not too late to pick it up again haha
No matter your age, the only thing keeping you from being good at playing an instrument is your mindset
@@glenndiddy and your wallet hahaha /j
Eleven years ago (age 50) started playing Tenor Sax. Three years ago started playing the French Horn. With no prior music at all. As an adult it's a passion thing. "I want to do this". So I make time for it. Oh, I am now a member of a local community band. Loving it! Love your channel TwoSetViolin!
I'm right with you! I was not tackling difficult repetoire... then quarantine happened and I'm sweating through mendelssohn and chopin
This video should be titled: Twoset being surprised for 12 minutes straight
I just wanna say that I'm the 667th liker of your comment which means I destroy your 666
its me hahaha that’s something I would do lol
its me hahaha u evil XD
I’m a self-taught piano player, been playing for half a year and personally, it’s great to get into harder pieces, but I always just practice easier ones (maybe some chords or scales once in a blue moon) Great compromise
I'm a self taught pianist too! I'm actually quite young but I think I'm quite good
@@katsuxkei same actually (Although I use garageband more often now)
I've been playing for almost 9 years and - HOW DID THEY LEARN SO FAST
*Confince drops cutely*
Oooh! 😲🤩🤩 So fun to be in your video!😁 🎻🎶🎵
Hi Noobie!
Did you have experience with any other instrument before violin? Excellent video and was amazing to see your progress!
Yay!!!
Nice progress video
@@Frostbitten. Thank you!😁🎻🎶🎵 The violin is the first instrument I learned to play. I tried the guitar at 16, since people talked about it being a easy instrument to play, but I only learned a few chords and realized it was not my thing. Felt it was too difficult. When I started the violin on the other hand, I got so inspired and motivated to practice almost everyday😁🎻🎶🎵 Though, people did tell me I was too old, but that made me even more motivated to prove them wrong. I have tried to play the guitar after learning the violin, and its still not for me XP
You can 100% tell that she decided to learn violin because of Lindsey Stirling
Yes, for sure. Lindsey also inspired me :) I have been playing for 1 year and 8 months so far and vibrato is coming slowly :(
Yea I really was inspired by her to play violin because she sounded really beautiful, and she's still one of the main reasons I like the violin
@@ViolinMasterfrom0toaHero That's okay! It takes time. I've played for about 15 years now, and I can attest to vibrato being one of the hardest techniques to develop.
Violin Master don’t worry! For me, it took me over two years to develop my vibrato and I’m still improving it to this day!
tbh at the first glance i thought she was Lindsey Stirling
I started learning violin when i was 11 and then I left it. Then i picked it up again at 17, and then left again due to my teacher being a little harsh (and me focusing on guitars). Now, after a music degree in guitar performance and 4 years of being a professional musicians, i'm turning 28 next Tuesday and I have restarted violin, again. This time no tutor like i had earlier (bc cant afford), but really hoping to pull it longer this time. Thank you for this video.
How’s it been going 5 months later??
That's so kind of you to ask. ❤️ I've actually gotten better! I am taking all the resources on the internet to get my technique and posture correct. Slowly corrected the way I sit (I play indian carnatic violin) and learnt to shift from first position to second position! There are still intonation issues but I'm now able to express melodic ideas! I'm so damn happy
I recently posted a song on my insta, finally after years, first violin video. I was very insecure before but now I think I'm able to make music happen. :') it's still going good! I sit with the violin at least half an hour a day!
@@ayanjoemusic that is so inspiring to hear. It sounds like you are truly motivated. I, too, am on a music journey in an effort to play the piano exceptionally. Had my first independent session yesterday and only practiced finger drills. I long for the day I can sit and play something truly therapeutic for myself and others. Hoping to take some classes, too, but that all financially depends. Anyway, I’m so glad for you. After watching a few “how to play violin” videos, I’ve grown a respect for those who’ve taken on the challenge. I’m sure you’re aware of Anne Sofie Mutter- she’s inspired me as well. On the off-change you haven’t heard of her, please look her up. She’s one of the best violinist in the world.
I wish you the best on your musical endeavor
I know this is an old video so you guys probably won't see this comment, but I love how you supported adult beginners. I am an adult beginner, 6 months in, and in the very beginning it's so hard because you sound awful, you're full of doubts and questioning everything about your posture etc., & everyone has this idea that only kids can learn how to play so you feel a lot of pressure to prove yourself. I was lucky to stumble onto TwoSet from my very first week and your videos have not only taught me a lot of music, it's always makes me want to go practice again. Anyway I just wanted to say thanks for all the love for adult beginners.
TwoSet: low self-esteem due to young prodigies
also TwoSet: low self-esteem due to adult beginners
jk HAHAHA
Secind guy has an advantage he is an asian so can learn all insturments in 1 week
me: low self-esteem because of all three of them
jk
haha
;-;
LING LING INSURANCE
Imo they're underrating themselves (prob for the jokes) but they're very good musicians
If you can progress slowly, you can progress quickly
Truth!
if you can practice slowly, you can practice quickly
@@EJ-nv9ug but at least 40h a day!
@@samsapiel4104 If you can practice 40h slowly, you can practice 40h quickly.
Of chords
it almost brings me to tears seeing the progress and pride that accompanies it. these students are finding a new way to articulate their emotions and the joy on their faces is so clear. absolutely inspiring!
After 3 weeks of violin, I yesterday discovered the vibrato on my own. It's so simple and easy, but if you force it it will be so hard. Let it come to you naturally and it will be the best.
I feel like she progressed faster than they expected because she's an adult, so her coordination is better. As someone who started playing at 6 years old, I was also surprised when some of my friends picked up the violin later than me, and advanced much quicker. Though, people who start young definitely get an enormous head start with learning an instrument, your initial progress can often be quicker if your an adult.
Also, i don't know the person in the video, but it is possible that she has learned another instrument before the violin. That is an enormous factor in how quickly you can progress. I experienced the same thing when I started learning guitar after 12 years of violin.
As an adult beginner i have my doubts as there's a ton of stuff you just need to experiment with a ton. I get a lot of bouncy bow for no apparent reason for example no matter what I try with weight, speed, stiffer or looser hand etc it's not something you read in a book as an adult and aha, so i know it now... violin seems to have a ton of such things in fact it feels like things you can learn in theory is the smaller part and where you need practice and routine is the bigger part.
I just started learning a little over a month ago at 35 years old because of this channel. I already play bass guitar (sacriligeous) and piano.... so far I’m progressing quite well but intonation with this instrument is giving me a bit of a hard time.
Here's the thing:
You want to learn violin at a young age, but you can't be learning it at an old age (15+). When you start at a super young age it's also very very hard, because you're not as smart. So if you start at maybe like 7-10 that's good.
i started the violin after 9 years of playing piano and i am literally doing vibrato, string crossings, canon in d and spicatto after 2 months of studying
I'm 13 and I started violin in January. I'm playing ode to joy and twinkle twinkle little star. I'm still a beginner. Is it good for me?
Adult beginner: plays Canon in D after 3 months of 40 hrs of practice per day
TwoSet: He's ready for wedding
so i was ATTACKED on TH-cam
Thanks to Brett and Eddy, I finally got a violin outfit and just had my first lesson today as a 23 y/o. I've put it off for so long because I thought I was too "old", but it's never too late to start and it feels like my soul is being nourished. It's thanks to these kinds of progress videos, and to 2Set for inspiring non classical people like me to play from scratch/pick up the violin again.
You can tell when she got super inspired by Lindsey Stirling. Changed the violin, hair, started learning her songs too. I mean...kinda looked her as well.
If you can learn violin slowly, you can learn violin quickly
Ling ling
Underrated
:)
Patricia A. Badea sorry it’s just a joke chill
@@ILikeBirds well my percussion teacher always said "slow makes fast and fast makes slow," If you really learn the basics slowly you can get them in to your muscle memory, you can become an outstanding musician through deep and meaningful practice but mostly it depends on the person and how much good practice they put into it.
Eddy: the next part is the hard part
Brett: *already playing*
My heart: *swoons*
Whats the name of that song tho? I cant for the life of me remember the name.
M W that song is Csárdás
@@thaomoc1526 Ah yes I was looking for this comment
It’s a piece guys 🤦🏻♂️
😳😳😳
She learned vibrato in 3 months
I’ve been playing for 4 years and still can’t do it
Either she’s great, I’m an idiot, or both
Practice more and be confident in yourself
I reckon she was probably playing another string instrument which made her transition quicker! You are not an idiot and she was impressive
She might have spent a bunch of time learning it for a song she wanted to play
closely observe how pros do it and try to emulate the movement, you can also look up tutorials. The key is, as with everything else, practice. Once you understand how the motion is supposed to go, your wrist and finger muscles need to get used to the motion, so you have to practice it a lot to feel comfortable with it. It will be awkward and uncomfortable at first, but do it enough and a good vibrato will gradually start to form. Also remember, and keep reminding yourself, that you need to relax your wrist. You can't wobble your wrist if it's stiff. It's not something you will learn in passing, you really gotta focus on learning it.
Girly I’ve been playing for almost 7 years and Im still learning vibrato 😭😭😭
I am self taught also: and it’s incredibly funny to hear how you guys learned it in a professional manner because it’s so different. I did the same as the people in the videos. I just picked songs I wanted to play and jumped right into it and I learned while I played.
"If you can learn it slowly, you can learn it quickly" every people who made those videos
Hahahaha 😆 😂
These people are just descendants of Ling Ling
Every people
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I'm built that way also... Tbh I learned guitar over 3 months and I got to an intermediate level but I keep myself stuck there because I don't learn anything new I'm afraid I won't be any better than what I am already... Fear is the biggest obstacle of life... As soon as you learn to break it you'll be the best of you!
Nobody makes progress unless they practise like Ling Ling
Facts
Lest get it to 420 likes
lets get it to 500 likes
Let's get it to 690 likes
not really, you don't need 40 hours, i practice less than 20 minutes a day and made a huge difference in 2 years, i could do vibrato in the first two months
I CRACKED WHEN EDDY SAID "SHE WENT TO THE DARK SIDE" AT 3:56 lol and them staring at each other before that
It truly is impressive what regular practice can do. I witnessed it myself when my friend started playing classical guitar. He would practice like 4-6 hours a day and he could play some impressive stuff within a few months.
As an adult beginner you have a major advantage over children: you CHOSE the instrument and made the DECISION to learn it. So you put in the effort. With kids it’s usually their parents that choose and they have no motivation longer than 5 lessons.
And you also PAY for the instrument xD so you have hopefully really thought of learning it so you don't waste your money on something you just have standing in a corner
SO TRUE, kids also don't understand things as fast as adults
As a kid i did choose to play an instrument i did choose the violin, not my parents. But as an adult you are able to practice more focussed.
With adult beginners, there's also the fact that if they're choosing to start later in life, they're likely to be more committed to the decision they've made
Victoria P actually it’s proven that kids learn much quicker than adults. But like I still agree
not only do adults learn faster but when you are self taught you are a lot more motivated to go straight to the slighlty more difficult techniques even if that means struggling for hours.
@@jayjoe3716 Kids hit those same walls, they just don't care and keep going, and obviously have a lot more time to practice like you said.
True. Adults can learn much faster as they focus.
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This guy is insane.
"if that means struggling for hours" damn that is so relatable after hours of struggling i just give up
Me learning galloping triplets on bass guitar.
im depressed now because Ive been playing the viola for 2 years now and at the 2 week mark of the second one was better than me
Honestly, seeing these newbies get to decent players in just 2 years gives me hope. Now, I just have to practice 40 hours a day and I too might succeed as they have.
Adult beginner year 2: “spiccato, vibrato”
Me, been playing since age 6 until 18: literally can’t even do a proper sustained note
SAME
Did you practice 40 hours a day, though?
HONESTLY
I mean, not trying to flex but, I did vibrato in 2 weeks tho. For me, intonation is harder to nail rather than vibrato. But yeah, I got experiences coz I'm a guitarist
I’m sure you can. Teaching/watching videos of people who need to work in the same thing is a great way to find it in yourself.
The beauty of being self taught is you can start damn wherever you want
But there's a high possibility of mess up your foundation. So go to find a teacher is better if you can.
Also the flaw of being self taught
@@yanlim18 nah. having someone telling you what to do the whole time is boooooring. I think it's better to learn by yourself because you can learn a lot faster without someone telling you what to do everyday
@@somethingjustgonewrongyeah9079
Yeah I get that, I’m about to start playing the 61-keyboard I’ve had for a year and I can’t wait to get to the harder stuff once I study the basics for a few weeks.
In all my old music classes, I was taught that the best way to learn is through learning and playing a song. Never have I been taught the basics of how to hold an instrument and read sheet music for longer than one lesson and the rest is already like 10 sheet of song for a performance in a few months.
I learned best that way and I find it better if there are certain songs you want to play specifically because after a while of doing that, you memorise where each note is on the instrument.
A teacher doesn’t do much but instruct you and you can easily look at TH-cam videos for help. Within a year I learned violin and flute flawlessly with not much help from teachers and all just self-taught.
Learning a piece of music is the best way to train your brain compared to mindlessly repeating notes. It helps but it’s better to do it via song so you memorise a lot more within a short amount of time, at least it was for me. Isn’t he end, it depends on how your brain is wired and what works best for you.
When I started with guitar, I started with ukulele. But my ukulele broke and the luthier took months to fix it (and also sent it back to me with an unsatisfactory fix twice). So the guitar shop that was helping was so embarrassed that the luthier he vouched for bungled it so bad, he sold be a "sample" Tanglewood which was identical to their top of the line model but without electronics for insanely cheap. Still one of the nicest guitars I have ever played. Almost Taylor level.
So I learned Romanza. And then I got another deal on a guitar, this time a cheap one, which I customized with a hand rubbed finish, old bone nut and saddle and nice strings. All solid mahogany, with small visual defect on the back. For a hundred bucks usd.
I then started learning the Koyunbaba suite. Took me a while, and it was quite a journey, but damn, did I learn a lot through that.
The trick is, when you can pick your own damn music, you're much more motivated to actually practice.
I started with cello when I was a kid and every piece was horrible to play. Oh well.
Then I got older and started with The Swan instead and moved over to Thais Meditation.
Fuck that Yamaha method bullshit. Play with passion. Learn with passion.
Ah, watching them watching her play and progress is so unbelievably encouraging, and exciting in a weird way! Please do more videos like this! I want to learn an instrument and have someone be this excited at my progress!
After teaching for many years I have learned that everyone is capable of anything. Two years is a long time and my students blow me away on how much they have accomplished in that amount of time. So i totally believe these people learned this quickly.
Brett : i don't have an illustrious career
also Brett : played in the G20 summit for presidents and world leaders
Seeing some of the politicians we have today, it might not be too illustrious. lol.
KurtCobain dude F
@@OiishiNoAnko That was a great jibe at the politicians, not Brett and Eddy. :D
@@SevenEllen Exactly. Brett was selected to play at the G20 summit because he was probably one of the best (if not the best) young violinist in Australia at that time when G20 happened there. What the politicians do afterward is independent of Brett's achievement.
@@ajchandra7735exactly thank you
“I can’t imagine how to play with a violin out of tune for three months”
Me: *cries in playing a piano out of tune for 5 years*
My piano Teacher NEVER tuened her piano The sound that it make when You press a key sounds more that The actual note
Edit:thx for the likes
why are pianos so expensive to tune? is it possible to just use the ‘wrench’ yourself and have a digital tuner there? it doesn’t seem like it should be too expensive, but then again a lot of things are like that
@@wetsocks8378 really it's the physical risk involved.
Stringed instruments are often dangerous to tighten, even in things like violins and guitars. If the string snaps and you're in the way, it can cause some damage and draw blood, especially if it hits your face.
Now, imagine those strings, but longer, thicker, and with much more tension.
It's like a loaded spring in a garage door, or a grandfather clock. If it releases at just the wrong time, and at the wrong angle, it could very well take an eye out, or worse.
Really, it's just safer to leave it up to someone who has the proper training to tune your piano, just like you'd call a repair man for your garage door motor.
@@wetsocks8378 There's also a lot of work involved: not all pianos have the same type of action, and if you look there aren't only 88 strings, there are more like ~200 iirc in most modern pianos, and changing the tension on one can change the tensions on the neighboring so it's fairly labor intensive and can take a couple of hours to do for experienced technicians. it's worse if the piano hasn't been tuned in a long time since the strings often need to settle over a period of a couple of months after the tuning and may need to be fine tuned again after.
at least it's not playing digital piano for idek how many years lol
I like how your reactions are surprising at how great her progress is in such a little bit of time. I've been playing for awhile and I still can't play like her. I felt really bad about myself and abilities (or lack thereof) after watching her videos. So thank you for your honest opinions and reactions to her progress. Kudos to her for being able to play like that.
I hope you're doing well! Don't give up!
me if my violin hadn’t exploded:
"I didn't touch Mozart for like, ten years"
Twinkle Twinkle Little Star:
Mozart didnt't write it, he wrote 12 variations on it
Lmfaoo
@@mralcina8726 yeah
Eddy said Mozart 5
You see that one Asian pianist who did hardcore twinkle twinkle little star? Don't mock the potential when one masters even a basic song.
when she got a new violin, she played the "brothers" from full metal alchemist, I'm fangirling-
I was about to ask which piece it was in the comment because it sounded so familiar. Thank you
I thought I recognised it
From one weeb to another thank you for existing😌
Hahaha I was about to comment the same thing
Sameeee, I finished it 4 days ago and I loved it!!!
I recently inherited a violin from a relative. I am a fan of classical music since I was a child, and always dreamed of learning how to play the violin. And now, I am 41 years old, and I am going to start next week. My family thinks it's ridiculous, but this video gave me hope. I do not expect to become very good, I only want to have fun. Thanks!
I played the violin from age 9 to age 12, but then i stopped. Now 13 years later I'm starting again and this gives me hope
I'm 32 and a lot of people have told me that it's "too late" to learn to play violin correctly. Your video juste gave me hope! :)
it's never too late :) I've taught mid-40-50 people begginers
Ugh, don't listen to them! I started at 34 or something. I got myself a teacher and I'm on suzuki book 6 right now (suzuki - just one of a few teaching/learning methods and progresses from books 1 through 10) which basically means that adult learning is not too late if I'm now working on intermediate level material. You should at least give it a try to see if you like it, and forget about the haters and just do you. Seriously, might be one of the best decisions ever 😀
I'm 62 and started last year.
Bob Klarquist good luck on your journey!
Never let people tell you what possible or not ! Dedication is the key
I can't speak for violin, but I feel that with piano progress videos like these, they can be misleading, because the case with a lot of self-taught people is that they pick a piece that is way too high a level for them, and then spend a year learning it, so in the progress video it makes them look like a god, but they don't actually have the skills needed to play other pieces at that level (obviously not speaking for all self-taught musicians here, just something I have observed over the years)
Yes I have that...major gaps in my piano knowledge and skills...one day I’ll go back to the beginning
agreed
Same with me and piano. We must remember that adults have backgrounds, different mindset, better cognitive function, concentration and motivation to learn than children. I have some musical education, I’ve learned to read notes before I’ve learned to read letters and I’ve been singing, tinkering with instruments, including piano, my whole life. But I still consider myself a beginner. So it’s much easier for me and others with similar backgrounds even we think nothing of it. I pick what I want to learn and spend time drilling it. So I may seem a better player than I am. I think adults have patience and fun drilling hard pieces, scales, exercises but little patience for easy stuff. I go through grade 1-3 books/etudes for sight reading and it makes me bored in 2 mins but I can drill small details of 8 notes for 20 min in a piece I’ve been playing for 6 months. Go figure. I think it’s ok to do it both (lots of easy pieces or one or two hard ones) ways as long as you are having fun. As adult beginners we don’t usually have plans to become professional musicians, we just play what and how we want to play :). Still, these videos show how much it’s possible to achieve if you go all in, even if with one piece.
That’s like me and guitar. I started just learning songs I like without learning the basics...or at least the basics needed for those songs. It looks impressive that I can play those songs, but I’m pretty much a beginner for everything else.
True, I'm self learner (guitar). I can play really hard and fast pieces, but sometimes I'm making terrible mistakes when I have to play something easy :-/
I love how you said it's never too late to learn an instrument! I completely agree. Adults probably progress faster because they're way more motivated to learn than kids. Thanks for the video!
I know I'm 2 years late but tbh you guys make me feel like it's never too late. I gave up playing violin as a tween almost specifically cause my mom got me a cheap ass violin that wouldn't tune for the life of me, financial issues and a lot more drama. I forgot how to correctly read sheet music and everything but, watching these videos made me feel inspired and the way I did the first ever time I picked up a violin. You can be an adult prodigy and I love the thought of it, feeling a violin that I can choose for myself within my hands and play so many wonderful sounds and symphonies. It makes me want to see what I can achieve.
Meanwhile me, who has been playing for three years: 👁👄👁 ʰᵒʷ ᵛᶦᵇʳᵃᵗᵒ
THAT IS LITERALLY ME LIKE EXACTLY
My teacher made me do the stuffed animal trick. Like get a small hand size stuffed animal and hold it up in your left hand to make sure your wrist stays straight and doesn't bend. And then slowly practice going back in forth with your finger. This took me a few weeks but it really helped to get the correct movement down.
@@carsonbarnesharp I've been playing for almost 19 years and I still feel worse than them...
Have you considered learning bass?
@@NPC-rq6vn Oh burn
As a kid you practice because your parents want you to, or you're interested but don't see it as something that's hugely important.
If you stick with it as an adult, you do it because you want to. You're doing it for you.
I have to agree, I got to the point as a teenager, that the piano no longer held my interest, it became a chore rather than fun. I have forgotten almost everything that I learned back then.
Exactly
I'm turning 15 in a few months and I haven't mastered ANY musical instrument therefore I feel old and wish that my parents enrolled me to some lessons during my younger days but now I'm trying to teach myself guitar (lmao we're middle class and can't afford expensive ones) then this just gave me hope...maybe if I earn money someday I'd play the violin too.
This. This is the motivation aspect that plays into why so many people think people are prodigies or just have a certain aptitude for something it's because they like it. Or they have a drive and passion to do it if you try to force someone to do something they don't want to do you're not going to see good results. Not in the sense that they may not be able to play well, sometimes you get people who are an exceptionally good player and then you'll get students to barely put the effort in because they don't care about it because they're being forced but if you have the sense that are exceptionally good that's still don't care about it they just give up because they don't want to do it
@@hugnboba same but I am 17. Both of my bestfriends can play instruments whenever they talk about music , deep inside I feel untalented and sad. I know it's not their fault but I can't help but feel like that..😢😢
I have been playing the violin for 5 years now and I still don't know how to do a freaking vibrato, how did she learn it so fast ? That's really impressive
I’ve been playing for 5 years and I’m no where near this level 😭 this is impressive
I'm at 8 months of daily practice without a teacher, and my husband remarked yesterday that I no longer have strangling cats as a hobby 🤦🏻♀️
Nice words of encouragement 😊
Loooool that made me crack
Good luck 🥰
That's quick!
Ah, I remember my days as a cat strangler. Good times.
Ah, nice. I play cello, and when I try vibrato... DYING CATS BEWARE FAMILY
I feel like the second guy also had a glow up with nicer and nicer clothes.
haha so fun to see this comment😂
Maybe that’s what happens when you start learning the violin. You glow up. I need a violin.
Ngl, I've already dressed up in my best suit to play my first full 'song' on cello at home, lmao. Somethin' about playing a string instrument makes you feel more confident and sexy, haha.
The violin glowed him up 😆 🎻
Noticed the same thing. Definitely felt like a reflection of his feelings towards his music.
me: Literally just started playing today self taught
me a few hours later: learnt all the natural notes of first position
My old violin teacher didn’t teach me pretty much anything even after 7 years, and even when I memorized every song she gave and I perfected every song she made go back to the bigger a book and that’s when I decided to quite now I’m playing it again. It frustrates me how far I’ve been behind on what I could’ve learned
Frets: exist
Twoset: THAT'S CHEATING, SACRILEGIOUS!
*lamentable*
I think they were just lines, not actual frets. Just showing where the finger should be placed.
@@Danocaster214 it's a thing called 'fiddle fretter'. It's a pice of plastic with frets that you can put on the fingerboard
Fascinating. That is truly sacrilegious.
Its 12:30 am here
*twosetviolin uploaded*
Me: SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK
Ikr- I waited for them to upload. NO SLEEP FOR NOW
R U ASIANNN ???
IKRRR
btw I'm Malaysian
Sameee. Hello from the Philippines!
I"m 81, just started violin two months ago with a teacher who teaches basic fundamentals first. my lessons and practice consist of open string crossovers, whole bow notes from the frog to the tip. Also first position studies, timing and legato studies, I don't know when I will see a song she is like Mr. Miogi, wax on wax off. Its easy to see the logic in here method , everything must be in alinement first before the note is struck. I have a great violin and a great teacher. I try to practice three hours a day. like anybody else I expierance the agony and extacy of practice. This is grate video I'll watch it over and over again they gave some interesting comments that I will be using and many others I will disguss with my teacher. thank again guys , great job love your channel
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I love that you're watching not classically trained violinists and supporting them
Her after a year: 1 fine tuner
Me after a year: *So this is how 3rd position looks like! InTeReStInG*
Samee
Me after one year: still pizz and no Arco 😭
@Camillo Tejan True, but that means she can tune her violin herself AND play that good, and she's self taught too! I just let my instructor tune on every lesson and still miss the positioning lmao
Me after seven years: finally you teach me 3rd position, teacher!
Yeah, I know, seven years is really long, but
1. I didn't really practiced and
2. honestly I don't know. I had learned the complete first position fingering, quite some bowing techniques, and my intonation, dynamics, rhythm etc. was fine as well. After she finally taught me I began practicing several times a week (I didn't practice at all before, because I was depressed by learning nothing new. I couldn't see any progress wich made practicing discouraging), then Corona came wich made me practice almost everyday and then I discovered TwoSet wich let to me practicing an hour every day.
@Camillo Tejan If you are a beginner, you tend to use all metal strings because they keep the tuning and are easier to get sound from. For metal strings you use a fine tuner. When you play on gut strings (nowadays usually syntetic gut) a fine tuner is useless, you will have to turn it forever before anything happens. So lack of fine tuners means you use higher quality strings which sound better but are harder to play and you need to tune more often.
Those strings have metal wound around them, so they still look like metal. Naked natural gut is used for hardcore baroque period style playing..
Eddy: The next part is the hard part D:
Brett: * casually continues playing the hard part * sorry what did you say? i can't hear you over my epicness
It seems like Brett is an expert in certain type of pieces, and then Eddy is also an expert in the other type of pieces.
And also how eddy's fast reaction in accompanying Brett in the last second is AMAZING!
The power of being together for decades
what is the piece called? pls
@@brendon.zxlfn0q2_10 CZardas
Only the patience & dedication in the early days can lead you to the rewards. I started 4 years ago when I was 8 and see where I am now!
Great to see where u started & how awesome u are now. Great job!
This is such an ego crushing video 😭 i hope i can become as good as herrrrr
I’m constantly blown away by how respectful and encouraging TwoSet are. Like yes, they will be the first to roast celebrities and TV show clips, but if someone’s showing a genuine interest -they are so welcoming. I’ve never learned an instrument and it’s comforting to know that even as an adult, it’s not embarrassing to start now.
well those TV shows never respected classical music in the first place, so it is understandable that Twoset did not respect those shows. It is a different matter with people genuinely learning and working hard, and of course, practice.
we classical music folks are usually not snobby people :) we simply love music and appreciate anyone who shows genuine interest in it! Go ahead and start an instrument!
I am 53yrs old and literally just started. I sound awful, my dog howls, runs and goes out the backyard and does not come in until I stop but, is okay. I am getting better though, today my dog only howled for 5 minutes out of the 30 mins I practiced. Big improvement. Is never too late to learn something you are passionate about.
@@ealston0826 Haha I'm glad your dog is becoming less scared! That's some good progress!!
@@creampuff966 Thank you. More than scared, I think his ears just hurt from the horrible sound :-) :-) :-)
Day 1: Beginner level
Day 2: *_The actual reincarnation of Paganini._*
Day 3: ?
Day 4: profit
Day 3: watch out ling ling I'm taking u down
Elevated quickly; skipped the escalator.
@@aquate9637 too damn funny
People love the concept of self taught. However as a person taught himself to play guitar and piano, I have to say,
Be Careful! No one is completely self taught. Many people including me learnt a lot from other people by talking to each other.
For me I learnt to play guitar when I was a teen. When I boast me being self taught, automatically hides the fact that when I first started I stayed around a guitar shop for hundreds of hours, ear-dropping on guitar lessons for other people and talking to good players playing guitar in the shop, BEFORE I even picked up my first guitar. Not to mention after I became somewhat proficient, there were countless talk between me and the players i know on how to improve.
So, don’t believe the hype. Find/hire someone if you feel stuck. No one is completely self taught.
Listening and talking to others doesn't disqualify you as not self taught. If you don't have any direct tutoring or academic classes you're by definition self taught.
when two set breaks out in a play to prove they can play like you.. thats hella honors.
I heard this violin story years ago... After the concert was over, a lady comes up to the violin performer and says, "That was amazing, I would give my life to play like that!". The performer said, "I did."
lingling is able practicee 40 hours in a 24 hour period cause he sold his soul to the devil, fact.
jimmyturpin Jascha Heifetz was the preformer.
@@PiranhaSatan You don't know how hard I laughed at this comment lmaooo
Kinda true, all we musicians do is practice, we don't have much of a life outside of music
and that performer name was Ling Ling.
Dudes - I had a student in 1997 - she was beautiful, 19, super smart - studying maths and actuarial science. She came for her first cello lesson. I taught her how to hold the bow - she mastered it in 5 minutes. I thought - wtf? I showed her first position on the left hand - first finger was not good enough - so we did C Maj scale. She played it well - both hands together. We were now maybe 30 minutes into a done hour lesson. Not kidding. So I took out some simple beginner pieces - showed her which places on the stave coincided with which note on the cello. She understood immediately and we sightread through a couple of pieces together. Lesson 2 - cycle of fifths and relative minor scales and how ALL the positions on the fingerboard worked. By lesson four she was playing the Vivaldi cello sonatas - all of them!!! Nice tone, good intonation. Just a genius. Then she was offered a job comparing a new TV show in Hong Kong. She actually tried to get them to fly me out once a month for a lesson. They didn’t agree, but she was a genius.
She wanted to fly you to Hong Kong for every lesson? That would have been really expensive.
Maybe she was a Prodigy and she didn't know
Holy crap dude! And I thought I learned violin fast! M A N
studying actuarial science.....definitely smart........but this sounds way out there crazy......amazing
Genius is genius. I remember teaching my classmate about chess and after my explanation we had a match and----within 5 minutes she wins.
It's not the years, it's the hours and quality of passion practice you put into the instrument. Music is not just mathematics, it's emotional.
The beautiful thing about playing an instrument is there's no shortcut to getting good. Some people can put in 100 hours in a month, but some will do it in a couple weeks. 🤷🏾♂️
Okay no jokes. This episodes means a LOT to me. it was INDEED really hard, especially for adult beginner players. I was one of them, and now are currently grinding my skills and did some practices almost everyday.
sometimes, deep inside there are lots of self-struggles and debates like "Is it worth it to practice this hard at this age? will I be able to do it?" and finally doubting yourself, thinking "Is it worth it? is it too late?" That kind of doubts, and worries sometimes creep inside your heart.
Thank you for bringing this videos up, this boosts means a lot to me, I do hope this will motivates others who learned to play an instrument in their adulthood. you are not alone, lets practice more, there is hope :)
👍🏻
I'm 30 and I started 7 months ago. This video gave me quite the boost I need.
It is never too late as long as you're alive. Remember this :)
@@labimartins9809 thank you Labi! What a heartwarming replies :)
Reading this inspires me. I haven’t been consistent with my practicing and it shows, it’s quite lamentable actually. Thanks! 👏🏽
Imagine Eddy's beginner students seeing this: 5:38
DEPRESSION 100
You can tell she wanted it, she went for it and did it
And when you ask 'em, "How much should we give?"
Hoo, they only answer, "More, more, more, more"
Twosetviolin: literally played for world leaders, kings, conducted an orchestra, has lots of awards, worked with global companies, successfully raised funds and organized their own 2-man world tour to promote classical music to masses, has almost 3 mil followers...
Also twosetviolin: SIT DOWN. BE HUMBLE
I love you so much
Best part is the guys flexing Monti's Czardas at the end.
Wow, these are seriously fast learners, especially self-taught. I’ve only been taking lessons for about 2 years (first learning posture in third grade at the string program, like 15 minutes a week and half of it was virtual, so not sure I would count it as experience) and I cannot come close to what they accomplish in such a short amount of time
you all's reactions are PRICELESS...lol. So fun to watch.! Learning piano for the first time over the age of 40...these two young people give me hope! Practice, Practice, Practice!
They're like
two proud dads
every beginning musician needs.
The reason, I believe, that an adult beginner would get an electric violin is for the ability to practice late at night as they may have kids... like my situation
I got the electric violin for that reason :D Dont have kids, but lived in a building with thin walls. Sometimes I had to practice in a bicycle shed(Shown in one of the clips). Sometimes outside in the forest with no people around. So a electric violin made it a lot easier :)
@Cam Gaylor Thank you! 😁🎻🎶🎵❤
Exactly why someday I want an electric cello, which sounds like an insane thing to exist. I'm a night owl & I often practice less than I would if my family weren't around.
@@ViolinNoobie Same reason why my better half got electric drums. Only way to know she is playing is to go in the room...
Ooh that's a very good point
This works for any instrument. I’ve only been playing baritone for three months and I’ve already improved so much. I went from barely being able to play F, to now playing, well, songs
"It's hard to play that without warming up " *casually plays Vittorio Monti from memory*
Stop it I’m running out of excuses for why I play terribly 😂
the amount of reliability in this comment... i can't
Just blame the instrument... 👀
hahhaa I can relate
Bob Da Thang that’s what i do LMFAOOO my parents even bought me a new viola cuz i kept complaining that my old one was why it sounded bad.... i still sound bad LOLOLOL
Excuses are bad for progression. Good life lesson I would say.
Me: has been playing viola for 2 years
The first vid: haha self-esteem go burr
Me, who has been playing cello for ten years. Same...
Guitar for 10 and I’ve got friends who have learned by themselves for 2 years and can pull off a solo while I try to somehow figure out the scale and chord progressions
Remember - viola is harder to play than violin.
Who is viola
I was singing Erlkönig on stage with all 4 voices after 3 years of training, which I was so proud of as a 14 year old. Now, after 18 years, I've performed in just under a dozen operas :)
I stopped playing the guitar after about a year and a half of practice due to being too busy starting med school. It's been about 8 years now and have pretty much forgotten 99% of what I knew. I am inspired to pick up the guitar again, this time more intelligently. Thanks guys. I don't play the violin, but I still love this channel and your love of music. The violin is my favorite instrument to listen to. What a truly beautiful instrument.
The muscle memory should still be there you can’t ungrow a brain. You’ll probably pick it up quickly.
@@kale6921 Yeah, definitely. I’ve progressed really quickly already which is so nice! Keeps me way more motivated.