DJI Naza Basic and Attitude Gain Settings for Pitch & Roll Using Turnigy 9X Control Knobs
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This video demonstrates the process for setting remote gains on your DJI Naza using a Turnigy 9X transmitter. One thing that I learned during this process is the difference between basic and attitude gains. I will try to explain to the best of my understanding below....because I feel it's important :)
Basic gains: these are the gains that apply to your multirotor as it hovers and tries to keep stable. They may be influenced by wind conditions and the environment in general. You'll notice as you kick these up your multirotor will begin to oscillate violently with no stick inputs.
Attitude gains: these gains seem to be what are impacted by stick movements. In the case of this video I'm setting pitch and roll. You'll notice that as you adjust these your multirotor will be come more responsive as you dial these up. These will also give you more/less pitch and roll angle depending on how you have them set.
I hope that makes sense and that the video is useful. Please feel free to post any questions or comments below.
Dennis. I can't believe how easy your videos make it to set this stuff up .. I just did the gains in a few min's when watching. I know it's not hard, but when I watched all the other ones they make it soooo complicated. you definitively have a unique ability to make this stuff easy to understand. Please keep it up.
Thank you for the feedback. I don't have a video on this, but will plan to do one in the near future.
I appreciate those gain settings. I may give those a try and see how they compare with what I have now. Glad to hear that you got it working well in strong wind. That's very reassuring to hear. The Naza is an incredible FC.
Great way to adjust gains, thanks Dennis I'm definitely going to tune my gains this way!
+Steve B No problem. Glad it helped.
Yestoday I made one of my perfect fly with GoPro (with case on), 2 5000mAh Lipo , and home made landing gear..
I change a little, those settings, and will remain like that (my shame. I forget the input, but I will come back to post them) because are just perfect.
I will try to put the video up.
Anyway... useful video, because people can have a idea to start for.
Indeed ..the Naza is great.
Thank you for the feedback. Glad to hear it was of some use. I know what you mean about DJI. I've talked to several people about their support and while they have a great product their support leaves much to be desired. After I get through this KK2 build I'm planning on focusing on APM 2.5 for a while. I'm really impressed with APM's capabilities and am looking forward to it. Take care.
No problem. I haven't been able to mess with this yet but hopefully this weekend. Hope you're getting some flying in.
Great video. Thank you very much for the clear explanation.
Joe, thank you for the feedback. It's trial and error for me. When I get it figured out I try to share how to do it in the easiest manner possible. Glad it's helping :)
Very nice info. Thanks. I don't have a Phantom, but will tweak this on my TBS soon.
Sounds good. I just subbed to your channel and will be looking for updates. Thanks again for the info.
Nice video.
I reconfurated my F550 Naza (position , radio etc.) and with the first setup, was not anymore stable.
So ... now , i just come from the fly field testing, and work almost perfect with :
145 /145/ 130/145
150/150
Strong wind and small rain.
Thank You.
Great video Dennis, i like your tutorial
Thanks so much. I appreciate you following along.
Very helpful Dennis please post anythink more about setting up the Naza you can,it really helps out. thanks again
Great news Dennis. I'm so frustrated I was thinking about getting another radio. Yes, I would like CL & HL along with the other modes...GPS, Attitude, Manual and fail safe. Just like the Phantom radio. I set up the Turnigy like you showed in the video with the right three position switch with Atti, GPS, and Manual then Fail safe on the gear switch when I'm in Atti or GPS (pos. 1 &2) if that makes sense. I do use CL and HL on the phantom a
lot, so I'm missing it on the F550. Thanks again.
Thanks Dennis..Nice video you showed about the difference between gain settings..I asked this question to DJI last year itself and they don't have any answer.. They send me the same online manual to follow..I would like to see more tuning videos from you on APM2.5 with testing of different modes..
You're welcome. Thanks for watching and hope all is well in FL!
I am pretty happy with the 8J. Used also x1 and x2 channels for at flight gain adjustments. The 8J offers to display % changes on screen (DT5&6 on home screen ) while adjusting. For all gain tests I programmed a separate model w/ dif. button assignments.
BTW, to complete the gain balancing of all parameters, after getting the basic & att. gain for P&R right, I went ahead and assigned x1/2 for yaw & vertical gain. Once all balanced, switched x1 back 2 gimbal control (VR dial) and x2 to IOC.
Very useful, was looking for a video that really showed the difference, now it is much clearer. Do you have a video on yaw/vertical as well?
Awesome video. I just upgraded from Lite to M and apparently the angle of attack has changed from 45deg to 35deg. This will help with tuning.
Luke Tree Glad to hear it. Thanks for the feedback.
Hey thanks a bunch for this. I was beating myself up for the first few minutes couldn't figure out why I wouldn't be able to control throttle gain in Attitude mode. I think we both ah-ha'd around the same time. Thanks again for the assist.
You got it. Glad to hear it.
SUPER Manual !!!!!!!
Very helpful. What about yaw and vertical?
Best Naza Turnigy Videos I have seen. Be sure to mention that Heli is what should be used for Quads. I am not sure which of the 4 you used,
great stuff
Damm it bro really helpful video nice work
You got it man. Thanks for the feedback.
Love your videos Dennis. They're always very informative and to the point.
Would you happen to know what I should change if my quad is experiencing pretty heavy oscillation during lift off?
Michael Mellon Thanks so much for the good words. Perhaps look at your flight controller gains and maybe bring them down a bit if you're seeing oscillation on take off. That's my best guess right now. Take care.
Yea!! I figured that out finally. Thank you. I sent you another message regarding setting up my gimbal pitch Control through my naza. I'm using a tgy 9x. Any advice?? 😕
Very nice presentation. Do you find the TBS needs different settings than the F450 because the arms are not symetrical on the Discovery as on the F450, or is it close enough? I find my Discovery ocillates in the roll axis when in fast forward flight.
Hello Dennis. I really need help figuring out how to set up the CL and the HL for the Naza. The turnigy 9x only has the one three way switch, so not really sure what to do ? Any ideas ?
Thank you nice video.
Thanks for the positive feedback. Related to flying in Heli mode is that what you use? I was doing that for over a year and just recently switched to Acro mode so I can get the 6 position switch setup. Do you have an idea of some of the things you use in Heli mode that aren't available in Acro mode? I haven't missed out on anything since I switched, but wanted to ask.
Great understanding of the Naza basic & attitude gains. I was in the same boat as you when I thought basic gains was for manual mode and attitude gains was for attitude mode on the Naza.
Im still a little bit confused about the vertical gains though, does it affect the speed of your quad going up when you bump up the gains or does it affect the way it comes down?
Very nice! Did you find better handling when you adjusted your yaw and vertical gains?
Hi Joe, yes a video will be coming this week after I figure out how to do this. I'm assuming you want CL & HL along with the other modes...GPS, Attitude, etc. Is that correct or do you just want to know how to do CL & HL alone?
Looks good, how hard is it to set up the GPS? I do not have one at this time but I want to by one and set it up. good video.
That's very good to know. I've been flying in ACRO mode on my Turnigy 9X lately. Also, I've been looking at Futabas for a while and really like the design of their transmitters. How do you like the 8J? Thanks.
Please help . . Followed all of your videos so far - great help - they are excellent . . Got a problem with this one getting the X1 and X2 to work . . I set the turnigy 9x channels 7 and 8 to "HOV PIT" and "HOV THR" . . go back but the knobs don't work !! On the turnigy in the "Display" nothing is happening. there is no output . . Is there another setting in the Tx that is preventing this to function? I have tried puttting other functions on 7 & 8 but none seem to show in the "Display".
Interesting. Do you know what "flight" mode you're in on your T9X? This would be plane, heli, or acro. I've noticed that sometimes depending on which mode you're in dictates which channels work.
Merci / Thank you :)
From what I've seen it's not too difficult. I can't speak from firsthand experience though. I opted to go with APM 2.5 when I decided it was time for GPS. Let me know what you end up doing and I'll be glad to help where I can. Hope all is well.
Hi, I know for the Futaba 8J you shouldn't use Heli mode, but the standard ACRO plane mode for a multirotors. The DJI Naza does all brainwork and needs no swashplate or throttle curve adjustments of a heli mode, just standard servo commands over 8 channels.
Héllo.
Good video..!
I have a 680mm frame TAROT .!!Could you help me with the rates of gain for this frame?At what rate should I start values.!!?
I do not have GPS now!'ll Fly in attitude ...!
Regards..
Pp
Hi. I recommend using the default gains to get started. They will probably be too low but you can get a feel for them. Then you can dial them up a bit to match the size of your frame. Here is a video that shows how you can adjust the gains while flying:
DJI Naza Basic and Attitude Gain Settings for Pitch & Roll Using Turnigy 9X Control Knobs
it is a bit unclear, when it was osciliating it was too low gain ? I'm fighting a big multi rotor.. which is osciliating but a slower frequency... I was today a 250% of gain (3Kg) machine.. I did a strong right movement and let return to center and it fliped over and crashed :(
would this be the same procedure to assign the channel to the pitch of the zenmuse gimbal via the x1 or x2 ports?
Bearded Lady Yes. More or less the same process would be used. If you run into any specific problems check out www.garagepilots.com and post in the forums there. We should be able to help you out. Good luck with your setup.
Dennis Baldwin thanks dennis, appreciate it.
Ey Luv ur vidyos Dennis. Tank yew for yur time wit deez. Keyp du Naza n Turnigy 9x vidyos cuming, dey R hellpful
When adjusting the basic gains should i be in attitude mode? or does it not matter?
You should adjust the gains and test in both attitude and manual mode. I would test in whatever mode you're going to be spending the most time in. Also, please check out www.garagepilots.com if you want to participate in our multirotor community. Good luck!
Hi Dennis . . Just checked on a "clean" new model, and I can configure the channels 7 & 8 the way you say . All good . . But back on my Quad set up in Heli mode there is obviously some conflict with all the mixing I have been doing . . eg . . I have my 3 way switch configured for the 3 flying modes, and my "Gear" switch configured for the forced fail safe. (All these using your videos!!) There must be a conflict here somewhere . . Hope you can help .
John
John, may I suggest checking out www.garagepilots.com and posting in the forums there? I'm not certain what's going on with your configuration but perhaps someone in the Garage Pilots community can help you out. All the best.
Dennis Baldwin
Thanks Dennis for your inputs . . I am in Heli mode. Think the conflict comes from too much mixing here and there!! No problem though . I am using a different "model" select for test flying the Gains using only the 3way Pit settings for GPS, Atti etc, and the Hov Pit and Hov Thr for X1 X2 . . Once I get that right I go back to my other "Model" for flying with the other settings . . Trainer (channels 5&7 for the Fatshark, and forced failsafe on the Gear, etc. . (If you follow me?!?)
Ingajohn
john..
on the turnigy 9x try using acro mode. remember the multirotors fly like basic 4 channel planes. hope this helps.
-jimmy-
where do you live
you did all of this is manual mode right? not Atti,
I feel that my quad always tilt to much. in any direction, 100% attitude I might as well set it to 90% just to make my quad tilt in a shallow angle. not to much,, like 45deg just 30deg.. what you think?
sir francis I did this in atti mode. That's probably not a bad idea if you don't want to get 100% throw with roll. Another option is to dial the gains way down so that it's a bit more sluggish and therefore your stick movements will react slower. It's whatever you prefer for your flying style, but I definitely recommend starting with lower gains and working your way up to where it's more responsive. Good luck and keep us posted.
Your video really helps alot. Thank you for uploading. My quad flies even better now
It's not as drastic as the basic settings. It helped to get the responsiveness of vertical adjustments. And the YAW responsiveness. The sweet spot is quite large, I just used the middle setting between too little and too much reaction.. Final results for a Phantom with 9" CF props and T-Motor upgrades Basic @ 185% Atti @ 80% YAW 125%, Vertical 150%.
dennis its david I still need the wiring,i sure you are busy but if you have a webcam I can show you were I am at. you know I have been trying for over 1 month and cant find one person who can tell me how to setup the stock 9x with stock receiver to make all naza v2 with gps funtions that naza v2 has I know that the radio can do all the control that naza v2 well function v2 has but need to know how to setup each switch and knobs to use for all features
David, the tough thing is that the mixing to get what you want to work will require mixing between the U and X2 port. I'm not sure how to mix both of those at the same time, but have been looking into it.
THANK YOU DENNIS FOR ALL YOUR HELP SINCERLY DAVID
david ringler You got it David. Will keep you posted!
David. I sent you a personal message to see if we can get this figured out.
How do you do it in Sbus ?
X1 = ch5, X2 = ch6. Follow the naza diagrams on assistant software.
X2 is where you plug in for Sbus
On a 9XR, there's no more AUX Channel settings in the menu. Simply PPM as usual. I use a D4RII output PPM. Then set Channel 5 to P1 for X1 and Channel 6 for P2 for X2 and you're done. Hope that helps someone.
Good stuff. Thanks for sharing that bit of info. Very useful.
Dennis Baldwin no, thank *you* for all these videos of tips and tutorials. Wouldn't be flying so quickly and happily if not for many of your videos.
Sorry, not sure I understand. Are you asking a question or making a statement?
MIX3 is not the same as MIX1 and MIX2