I feel like trips is very often one of those hands where people think it's stronger than it is. Usually when your hand goes from top pair to trips, the number of hands your opponent could have that you're beating doesn't really increase at all. Their straights still beat you, flushes still beat you, top pairs -> trips still have you outkicked, 2 pair makes a boat, sets make a boat. The only thing you're beating now that you weren't before is overpairs. I think the instinct is to think "wow I have trips, that's really strong I gotta bet" but the opponent doesn't have more hands you can take to value town. Though they might be more likely to bluff catch since you have fewer queens.
Two pair only has a full house infrequently since the paired card on the board only has one card left. If the trips wasn't the top card you're also beating top pair. The bigger problem for two pair is that they often get counterfeited by the paired board, leaving them with garbage, and they will have to fold.
as i said in another comment, in tough games vs tough opponents im probably checking back turn with 100% of my range here. perhaps a small bet the small percentage of the time ive boated up. this card will hit your opponents range more than yours and a vast majority of the time youre going to want to realize your equity and not get check-jammed on.
Yea hero could thin value bet on the river but just know if villain jams then u will have to call it. Hero played safe. Checking back is ok too! Either way.
lol stop it. obviously you should sometimes be smooth calling pf with your AA heads up against tough opponents. would you even be posting this if a queen didnt come on the turn??
I love finding value on rivers. It's hard to find it here though. Betting this river I just see a better hand calling way more often than a worse one. Just don't see any upside to a bet here.
curious why people think villain is calling a bet (or shoving to reverse block sizing) on the river? I villain gave Michael G a hard time because villain is salty his tricky play with AA didn't work out? And why villain didn't take the line of check-raising the flop with AA is beyond me considering how many cards could kill action on the turn (and did kill action on the river.)
Paused at the turn with a question. If you’re checking back turn with hands strong as kings then doesn’t any bet automatically make you polarized? Since you’ll be betting basically a queen or better or a bluff? So a large bet would make sense since your range is already polarized? Or am I totally off base. I know there’s live exploits at play but I’m just wondering from a theoretical standpoint.
Think you gotta bet there, if you had Q2-7 check back. But Q9 you block 9-10. I like checking back usually but if he had some full house think you hear about it already. Agree with table a little nitty
Hand is kinda weird because of the bigger flop and turn bets he got way more money on the turn than he should have so I'm not terrible about the play. Have to admit though never really thought about AA here.
Flop should rarely be a check back. First there’s definitely bluffs we’ll have that we want to balance. Second this flop strongly favors our range so a check back is almost an alarm bell. Third we usually have the best hand on a board where the villain will have a lot of second best hands and draws. Id say this is almost a mandatory flop bet.
I agree with the river tiny induce bet here and just be prepared to call it off. Might be too thin sometimes as V will have some better Qx hands. I’d bet $300 on the river in hopes of a call from AJ or to induce a bluff.
I don't like the idea of checking the turn. I think that villain bet correctly. If you give a free card and flush or straight completes, you aren't likely getting value on the river. With the river completing T9, I check river.
There should only be one T9 calling close to pot on turn: T9 of diamonds and even that should probably be folding, because hero already can have boat or KQ or AK of diamonds.
lol. how about the vast majority of the time when the flush or straight doesnt complete on the river and villain wants to bluff or value bet worse hands into us??
I live on the gold coast Australia, rec player, $1,$3 game. Max buy in is $300. Very hard to find videos navigating these small buy ins. Not much room for making moves. Bet sizing is tricky without being 'pot comitted' Any recommendations, video etc? Thanks
The small games are hard to win at consistently compared to the rake unless the stacks deepen. The main ideas and math still apply though. I think 2-5 is much better game if you want to be serious, otherwise just have "fun" at 1-3 and get comfy in the casino setting. Read the 2+2 books, super/system, Bart's videos, some of Doug's old analysis ones too
He’s playing too big of a pot for this hand. I’m checking back turn almost always as played. Possibly the flop, although I like a 1/4-1/3 bet best on flop.
Am I missing something? $175 into $565 is literally 31%… Just Bart with the classic nitpick saying it’s too big and he’d prefer something closer to 30% lol
It's somewhat of a new wave. I went to play a tournament the other day. I swear, over 3-4 hours I saw more called 3 bets and limps with AA and KK then I did in the last year. From different people, on different tables. Like, what is going on, is it a new thing or just people wanting to be tricky? btw nobody got punished for that, all of those trappers won chips.
The guy plays AA like that and then berates you? LOL. Shouldn't he 4-bet pre or check raise flop. I guess if you have a super tight image he might correctly fear QQ and JJ, but otherwise it seems silly to slow play the flop.
I think the caller sort of screwed himself here by betting big on both the flop and turn. It would've been much better to just check back on the flop, raise on the turn, and jam all-in on the river.
YES! I need to know the definitions of all the terms you've founded. 😂 I do like the check on the river. Villain does have a lot of boat combinations he could be slow-playing. He could also have a better queen or a straight. The way I see it, hero got a ton of value from v playing AA terribly.
Check river I just think is missing too much value. Villain has overpairs, Jx, even TT or something might just decide we're bluffing on the river. Idk, I bet 700 or 1200 maybe 50/50 each here. If they shove I'm looking for tells lol.
AA was mad that's why he berated him lol. I see players trapping with AA and getting married to them often. At least 2-3x a night. Hmm would I bet here...... 1/2 I lean yes but smaller. 2/5 I lean no for the reasons stated.
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I feel like trips is very often one of those hands where people think it's stronger than it is. Usually when your hand goes from top pair to trips, the number of hands your opponent could have that you're beating doesn't really increase at all. Their straights still beat you, flushes still beat you, top pairs -> trips still have you outkicked, 2 pair makes a boat, sets make a boat. The only thing you're beating now that you weren't before is overpairs.
I think the instinct is to think "wow I have trips, that's really strong I gotta bet" but the opponent doesn't have more hands you can take to value town. Though they might be more likely to bluff catch since you have fewer queens.
well said. i think this is why i check turn 100% here in games not full of droolers.
Two pair only has a full house infrequently since the paired card on the board only has one card left. If the trips wasn't the top card you're also beating top pair.
The bigger problem for two pair is that they often get counterfeited by the paired board, leaving them with garbage, and they will have to fold.
If I was at the table, I would tell the hero you can never be too careful nit.
@@moaf2padventures757 I go 1/3rd pot to look like im just barreling with no pair.
@@fluffysheapFlopping Bottom Two can really be a landmine for the reason you state about the board pairing.
A solver is also checking back turn. Very interesting
I love how the caller does a recap of the board after every street like Bart would lol
Ha yep
Very obnoxious
Haha for reals
Tryna steal the show
“The not so extraordinary Michael G” 🤣 I love it
Villain played it very poorly - he has no business criticizing! Tried to get tricky and it backfired.
BuT I hAd AcEs! 😂 yeah he played it like shit
Ya, like maybe raise the flop my guy
Classic OMC behavior. Don’t play unless you have AA but then try to slow play and never able to walk away post-flop.
as i said in another comment, in tough games vs tough opponents im probably checking back turn with 100% of my range here. perhaps a small bet the small percentage of the time ive boated up. this card will hit your opponents range more than yours and a vast majority of the time youre going to want to realize your equity and not get check-jammed on.
Yea hero could thin value bet on the river but just know if villain jams then u will have to call it. Hero played safe. Checking back is ok too! Either way.
This is why it's best to play your premium hands fast especially preflop.
lol stop it. obviously you should sometimes be smooth calling pf with your AA heads up against tough opponents. would you even be posting this if a queen didnt come on the turn??
@@moaf2padventures757 yeah but he should definitely have raised the flop.
Glad to see you as a guest on michaels call in show Bart!
“What a nit” says the guy who called a 3bet with aces.
I love finding value on rivers. It's hard to find it here though. Betting this river I just see a better hand calling way more often than a worse one. Just don't see any upside to a bet here.
Great video Bart.
If someone gives you shit over being "nitty" just tell them thanks for their money and to give you some more then you might care about their opinion.
curious why people think villain is calling a bet (or shoving to reverse block sizing) on the river? I villain gave Michael G a hard time because villain is salty his tricky play with AA didn't work out? And why villain didn't take the line of check-raising the flop with AA is beyond me considering how many cards could kill action on the turn (and did kill action on the river.)
Thank you
Paused at the turn with a question. If you’re checking back turn with hands strong as kings then doesn’t any bet automatically make you polarized? Since you’ll be betting basically a queen or better or a bluff? So a large bet would make sense since your range is already polarized? Or am I totally off base. I know there’s live exploits at play but I’m just wondering from a theoretical standpoint.
Bart is right. A check back on the turn a decent amount is probably a good thing to do
I don't get married to aces but maybe engaged with a cheap ring
Think you gotta bet there, if you had Q2-7 check back. But Q9 you block 9-10.
I like checking back usually but if he had some full house think you hear about it already. Agree with table a little nitty
Hand is kinda weird because of the bigger flop and turn bets he got way more money on the turn than he should have so I'm not terrible about the play. Have to admit though never really thought about AA here.
Flop should rarely be a check back. First there’s definitely bluffs we’ll have that we want to balance. Second this flop strongly favors our range so a check back is almost an alarm bell. Third we usually have the best hand on a board where the villain will have a lot of second best hands and draws. Id say this is almost a mandatory flop bet.
I agree with the river tiny induce bet here and just be prepared to call it off. Might be too thin sometimes as V will have some better Qx hands. I’d bet $300 on the river in hopes of a call from AJ or to induce a bluff.
I'd check back the river here
I don't know why I didn't think about AA for villain, that makes perfect sense.
I like betting 15% pot on river, about 315, allowing AJ and KJ to call.
Can you find a call when you get jammed on?
I check on river, can’t really find a lot of call from weaker hand unless I have a lot of history with the V and got a better pic on V range
Everybody plays perfectly after they see cards...
I don't like the idea of checking the turn. I think that villain bet correctly. If you give a free card and flush or straight completes, you aren't likely getting value on the river. With the river completing T9, I check river.
There should only be one T9 calling close to pot on turn: T9 of diamonds and even that should probably be folding, because hero already can have boat or KQ or AK of diamonds.
lol. how about the vast majority of the time when the flush or straight doesnt complete on the river and villain wants to bluff or value bet worse hands into us??
@@chrisko6439 Bad players don't think that way. They see any 10 9 and think open ended straight draw. They'll call.
Any J would be bluff catching here. Hero 3! at the BTN. If Hero's table image is capable of 3 barreling, then it's a slam dunk jam.
I live on the gold coast Australia, rec player, $1,$3 game. Max buy in is $300. Very hard to find videos navigating these small buy ins. Not much room for making moves. Bet sizing is tricky without being 'pot comitted'
Any recommendations, video etc?
Thanks
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The small games are hard to win at consistently compared to the rake unless the stacks deepen. The main ideas and math still apply though. I think 2-5 is much better game if you want to be serious, otherwise just have "fun" at 1-3 and get comfy in the casino setting. Read the 2+2 books, super/system, Bart's videos, some of Doug's old analysis ones too
He’s playing too big of a pot for this hand. I’m checking back turn almost always as played. Possibly the flop, although I like a 1/4-1/3 bet best on flop.
🎯🎯 exactly. "Oooh, junk trips are best hands ever!" said every beluga to ever swim the seas...? 😂🤣😂
Am I missing something? $175 into $565 is literally 31%…
Just Bart with the classic nitpick saying it’s too big and he’d prefer something closer to 30% lol
it was 175 into 390
would a small bet like 175 as a fake block bet be better than a check on the turn?
Yea i dont like a check on the turn. Half pot would be acceptable but it really depends on villain style.
It's somewhat of a new wave. I went to play a tournament the other day. I swear, over 3-4 hours I saw more called 3 bets and limps with AA and KK then I did in the last year. From different people, on different tables. Like, what is going on, is it a new thing or just people wanting to be tricky?
btw nobody got punished for that, all of those trappers won chips.
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Saying you would bet AQ sure but not Q9. Q9 and QT actually block straights so they actually would be better bets on the river than AQ
The guy plays AA like that and then berates you? LOL.
Shouldn't he 4-bet pre or check raise flop. I guess if you have a super tight image he might correctly fear QQ and JJ, but otherwise it seems silly to slow play the flop.
Hero unsubbed after Bart ate bad wagyu 😢
I think the caller sort of screwed himself here by betting big on both the flop and turn. It would've been much better to just check back on the flop, raise on the turn, and jam all-in on the river.
3! = 6
YES! I need to know the definitions of all the terms you've founded. 😂
I do like the check on the river. Villain does have a lot of boat combinations he could be slow-playing. He could also have a better queen or a straight. The way I see it, hero got a ton of value from v playing AA terribly.
Check river I just think is missing too much value. Villain has overpairs, Jx, even TT or something might just decide we're bluffing on the river. Idk, I bet 700 or 1200 maybe 50/50 each here. If they shove I'm looking for tells lol.
The way he says $2,045 at 9:08 is not OK
Am I the only one who sees CO show up with KQ or QJ?😅
Is this Falcon from Gameranx!?
on the youtube lol
Wtf is this NIT shit? Ship it!
Foist😮
AA was mad that's why he berated him lol. I see players trapping with AA and getting married to them often. At least 2-3x a night.
Hmm would I bet here...... 1/2 I lean yes but smaller. 2/5 I lean no for the reasons stated.
Again, i'm raising all day on that 3rd Q. But i'm very loose and agro. And not yet a consistently profitable player
@@aheroictaxidriver3180 you know what i mean
I will watch anyways but I can tell you beforehand absolutely not lol
Perhaps saying 'Reservation Casinos' or 'Native casinos' would be more appropriate considering many peeps will be offended by 'Indian casinos.' I know you're live but cmon maaaaaan