DON'T Do THIS in No Limit Hold'em!
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- Caller makes the nut flush at the end of this hand but plays cautious because of the board pairing. Bart and he discuss the situation.
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Bart's analytical approach is incredibly helpful to improving our games. Much appreciated!
And the callers sometimes also are very helpful. I too would have just called for sure but as always Bart had the correct view.
One thing to note if you jam over the top on the river: the SB will a) know they are beat and they will only call with a full house, and b) they might just fold because the Lowjack is priced in to call with his last hundred bucks, so there will be a showdown and they won't have to pay 600 to quench their curiosity as to what you have.
I think you have to go back to the Preflop action. If you’re trying to evaluate the heroes range most the time it’s aa or kk ak aq. Only two combos of ak and aq of spades. You beat everything else with your smaller flush. Most guys don’t bet turn bet river and fold when they make their hands especially when they’re getting almost 5 to one.
I agree with you. But Bart's point about the pot odds does have merit. Many players will call because they are getting better than 4 to 1. They just don't get that they win only 1 in 10 times here at best.
LJ played this so incredibly badly… this is definitely a nice table to be at
I saw your comment at the top and when I was thinking about what the LJ would have I thought he was brilliant for playing his set or straight in flow on the flop and almost getting the max with his rivered boat, having the presence of mind to smooth call the SB River lead and induce a jam from Hero’s value hands… then I watched the rest of the video.
Trapping AA headsup is ok but not when there is a cold call in-between. Also not jamming the turn was criminal. I wonder if he would have jammed the flop, would have put hero in a tough Position
i kind of disgree about ur guys comment on LJs play. He only has 80bbs starting the hand. after sb cc 3b, the pot gonna be 12x3+1=37. he only has 68bbs left and spr is lower than 2. A lot of u talking about 4b pre, it is kind of weird with his 80bbs stack, how much he can 4b without jamming pre with sb cc 3b？By flating 3b with AA, he can keep all the bluff and can stack off whenever he wants to. Same logic when u play tourney flating with AA with 15-20bbs depth.
@@rongxu2119 that's a good point he can 4b to 25 which is a very small 4b but it's ok to make at that stack depth. But jamming wouldn't be terrible either
@@rongxu2119 I think you are right. There are some merits to flat given the low spr. But it's really complicated due to the different stack sizes. Maybe this is even a good spot to raise a lot since it gets awkward for the other players with the bigger stacks. Either way he had to jam turn as played. If he was scared to be beat on the turn he definitely had to fold river
Lol @ the LJ having ACES 😂😂
This hand encapsulates live poker so well
I was thinking a baby flush or maybe a flopped straight. Just hilarious.
Wow every player misplayed their hand
Raises with A/k spades. Gets called. Flop 3/4/7 with 2 spades. Calls Bart. “What do I do here??”
You Always bet a flop like this. What's the chances they flopped a set or straight 🤔
Check raise you’re obviously jamming.
@@JohnMalindretos i would never jam here. whynot just call if you gonna jam anyways? this way you keep the sb bluffs in.
@blake philbrook then the spade will come that pairs the board on the river.
Small blind is cold calling a 3 bet with JT spades in the worst position. No way he is folding a flush to a jam when he was specifically playing a hand to get a flush. I know caller obviously didn't know his hand but jamming to get called by a smaller flush would have been right move in my mind.
Definitely a raise on river given what went down. Can’t be afraid of the monster under the bed, I get it tho! Always easier when you’re not in the hand. One of my biggest leak is missing value and I’ve definitely done this before. This is why we review, great video!!
"I mean you woulda gotten called by the low jack, hehheh." haha that cracked me up
Lol Bart’s reaction to LJ’s hand
Ace ace or eight eight?
Shows how bad some of the play is even at this level. LJ not four betting and then slow playing the rest of the way is awful imo.
My mouth was agape. If poker were a just game, this person would never pick up AA again.
Bart's response was perfect. "LJ had pocket aces? WTF?" The exact words I was thinking.
Always 4-bet Aces and on this flop a Continuation bet is definitely in order. After how the hand was played Preflop
What people don't seem to understand is that you need villain to call with worse hands over 50% of the time. Also they WILL fold some hands against a raise, especially on the river. So just a few boats will already ruin your day.
Let's just count the combos:
SB is clearly clueless about preflop so we give them more flushes and boats than reasonable. flushes: JT, QJ, QT, J9, T9 -> 5 combos. Considering card removal from LJ it should be even fewer combinations. Boats+: 33, 44, 77 -> 6 combos, 78s 88 -> 3 Combos. That's a total of 9 combos!! So if SB calls with all flushes and boats it's a terrible jam. We can safely assume that SB WON'T call with anything less than a flush. Having the Ks really does block a lot of weaker flushes SB could have. There isn't even T8, T7, 98 available with the board. And even if we give them 65, which is ridiculous, they still have more boats than flushes.
This is quite an over analysis. You’re worried about one extra combo, so you’re gonna lose out on max value when the way the hand was played it’s likely lower flushes mentioned will call?
@@JohnMalindretos you are always going to get bluffed sometimes or value own yourself or check back against a weaker hand that would have called or check back against a stronger hand that would have folded. Singular results and hands don't matter. It's all about frequency and probability
"Not sure exactly what betting here on the flop accomplishessss"
Bro, and you're playing $10-$10?
Lolz
I’m going to parx
That’s the mindset of players you want to play against at your table- they’re always making the minimum and you losing the minimum.
Great call. Is a take away from this that we can jam lighter when opponents are in a tough reverse pot odds situation? They both will feel forced to call off with a weaker range than normal.
Correct. At least I'd think this is logicxal
Its hard trying to analyse this hand when the LJ is playing his own version of Poker!! 😉🙃😎
LJs line just screams JJ or similar. And even if you lose vs LJ, he doesn't have much more behind so you're just losing value vs SB.
But really that shouldn't be how he plays JJ or similar. JJ+ should mostly 4 bet and those that not 4 bet shouldn't be smooth calling the turn.
You can never raise here. When the LJ calls, you can never or almost never have any bluffs. When you can't bluff, when you raise, your only value is at least flushes. That means that when your opponent has the lower flushes, he has to fold them, since you're incredibly likely to have high flushes. You also shouldn't really value low flushes yourself that much, so it makes no sense for them to call. Furthermore, the SB cold calling is indicative of many medium or small pairs, which also destroy you.
Jamming all in in this spot is a spew and I can't see how you can reasonably consider it to be anything else. The only way it's not a spew is if you know SB is very, very terrible and will just think "I have a flush, I call" in every situation. Even then, it's not exactly an ideal spot.
It a must jam if we are jamming when its heads up we should jam when LJ calls and leaves 100ish behind. Its live poker players tend to not be able to fold big hands, especially if they can’t fold J10s preflop with a 3 bet infornt of him out of position, he is most likely not going to fold when getting there on the river laying 4 to 1. I agree if we are playing a line up full of good competent players or pros that we shouldnt but live poker must jam imo
Yeah, you're right it's close but the more I look at it, raise can't be good. If we give SB all his flushes down to 54 (not including stuff like Q6 which, ye gods please tell me he is not coldcalling 3bet with Q6,) that's only eight flushes. Thus if he would play this way with all his boats and quads (reasonable) he has ten of those, so our jam is losing.
Factoring in the extra money from the LJ might make it break-even, but then when you add any fuzziness factor to the SB's propensity to call with low flushes in a situation where he almost literally can never be good, it becomes losing again.
I'm with Ohrami, changing my initial view that raising river might be OK. Raising river is bad.
@@julianp3568 It's completely different when LJ calls. Your jam becomes a dry side pot. LJ cannot call with a hand that isn't good. He needs to have *something* to call. Because of this, you basically can't bluff. (I think theory might pick some bluffs that could theoretically beat the LJ but not necessarily the SB some tiny percentage of the time but you basically can't bluff.) When you can't bluff, your opponent knows you have at least something for value. Value here must be *at least* a flush or better. Since your opponent knows value must be a flush or better, he must fold low flushes. Since he is folding low flushes, even jamming with flushes makes no sense. You need to jam with just boats, and perhaps even just good boats.
@@julianp3568 JT is not enough though. He's got ten boats+ (three copies each of 33, 44, and 77, one copy of 88) so we need to find ten flushes for our value jam to break even. QJ, QT, Q9, JT, J9, T9, 65, 54. That's only eight. Do you give him Q6 and Q5? I think even quite bad players know not to call a 3bet pre with those holdings.
@@adamshort2534 Plus potentially 2 combos of 87s, so 12 boat-or-better combos.
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I do not understand raising here. The only smaller flushes are 10-9, J-10, and Q-J ,compared to 3 77s, one 88, and maybe 33, 44, or 8-7 suited. If youre saying he has Q-10s, Q-9s, or J-9s, he DEFINITELY has 33, 44, and 8-7 suited, giving him 12 total combos of full houses/quads compared to 6 flushes. Either way he has more full houses than flushes. AM I wrong?
Yeah I don’t really see how raising here can be right.
I think you can make a case for raising the river with A5ss.
Ohrami said something similar. I think you can give him 65 and 54 (people love to play these hands and do not understand that they do not play well out of position) but even then jam loses money. He needs to have stuff like Q6 and Q5 which is just too optimistic.
@@JohnSmith-nx7zj Unblocking those K-hi flushes would be quite nice. As4s also, as it unblocks the flushes and blocks 2 boats. Hard to not bet As5s on flop with the double gutter nutter flusher.
@@ZenMadmanPoker yeah A4ss is probably the best possible hand to raise. Other than boats obviously.
I was thinking 100% soneone has AA KK QQ and they dont want to give it up with the 88 which is two pair
Even JJ 1010 99
Week it seems his check on the flop actually worked and indicates that he doesn't have the nut flush draw (AK of spades exactly) which I didn't hear any of them specifically talk about.
God bless live poker
what does the title and thumbnail have to do with the hand? The AA not 4betting pre?
what do you do if LJ Jams turn?
How do you check this flop??
You’ll be surprised at the hands I seen at show down in 1/2 live. I’ve seen pots grow as big as $400, and the winner just show bottom pair in a wet board. 🤷🏽♂️
Bart good work,
I like that jam because sometimes the deep stack will call with wrose and the shorty will have the better so win a nice little side pot.
LJ felt pretty irrelevant to the river decision, except insofar as how his presence might affect SB's likelihood of paying off a jam. There are 12 "reasonable" combos that beat hero: 33, 44, 77, 88, 87s. How many "reasonable" flushes are there in SB's range? QJ, QT, Q9, JT, J9, T9, 65, 54, uh... hmm... I was thinking shove, but maybe only because 33/44 are pretty unlikely cold-call-a-3-bet hands, so more like 6 "reasonable" combos? Still... feels very close.
Highlight of the hand is obv the LJ just calling the 3-bet 3-ways closing the action all while OOP to the PF3. Live poker will always be profitable. A friend just shared a hand where someone called his 3-bet pre w/99, then just called down on A9338 because he thought the 3-bet sizing pre "had to be pocket aces". Would have been funnier if he'd folded river. My buddy did not have AA.
LJ is almost totally irrelevant. The odds of them flopping a set and not hearing from them on the turn or even with a x-raise on the flop is terrible. It’s even a weird way to play the only remaining combo of 88 with all the draws out there, they probably want to raise the flop for protection or wake up big on the turn. So I don’t see how you’re ever beat there.
That info makes it more likely they have a flush, so I also probably just call here following caller’s logic, but I’m not 100%. So I guess not irrelevant, but they never beat you. They can also call behind with a flush if SB has a bluff.
@@adamseidel9780 If LJ has a flush, then it's harder for SB to also have a flush, which might weight them more towards boats.
Flop checked through, so 88 seems reasonable for LJ there, but not raising turn multiway with so many flush and straight draws out there seems...bad. Then again, this turned out to be a player who flatted the 3-bet with AA 3-ways while closing the action. So who knows how they play anything.
@@ZenMadmanPoker yeah, that’s basic at what I said at the end, that LJ probably blocks some of the flushes. The AA that shows up falls into the “random bullshit” category you can always count on weak players having occasionally. That’s why if it’s super close and you don’t know a lot about a player but you can tell they’re weak passive, tie has to go towards aggression because you can add a combo or two or “random bullshit” that 5% of the time those guys show up with. If it’s really really close, tie goes to random bullshit.
@@aheroictaxidriver3180 I’m saying in any case we hear from him with a set a lot
He didn't raise AA on the turn though so I wouldn't discount him not raising Sets either
This is a obvious raise on the river. I would never dream of not raising in this spot.
Right, crazy to think either has a boat the way they played the hand.
LJ, sure. But why would you discount the SB from having boats?
On the flop I think it's close between a smallish bet for protection and value and a check to preserve your showdown value on brick turns and rivers.
The problem with betting is mainly that lots of dominated hands will fold (Ax and Kx hands that missed the flop) while almost everything that is ahead of us is likely continuing vs small bet, and if an opponent raises it kind of sucks because we may face some hard decisions on some turns.
However, against weak passive players they are going to call with worse flush draws which is just amazing for you, so I think I lean towards a bet even though it does make our checkback range quite devoid of nut flush draws. We can have A4 though of course if we would 3bet that.
I think both betting and checking have merit but against these players as described, betting probably wins a bit more money.
As played turn is obvs an easy overcall with a draw to the nuts.
River is close. The reason the LJ calling in between makes it weird is that it makes it so that we can't really bluff because he is committed and therefore the pot is protected. So now we are putting in what is essentially a thin value raise with a hand that is not that close to being the nuts, and that blocks a range of hands directly below it (because we have the Kc.)
I would definitely jam this spot, but I could see an argument for just calling. There can't be THAT many worse SB holdings that would actually call.
Nothing close about it 100% bet
Bet bet call vs two shortstacks
These 10/10 players are weak af lol
Ya lost me at "check back nut flush draw"
Well typically this board doesn’t connect very well with our 3betting range, we never have 33s or 44s. Sb has the nut advantage here if he is cold calling 3b with small pairs and LJ has the most amount of straights. We have an overpair advantage on this texture and some nut fd like we have in this particular hand. So, a check back on this board could never be bad
@@sh0wtime943 lol gl at this poker thing..
@@LRocketz doing pretty good from the past 6 years :) ty
Heh. Yeah. I think in a vacuum it's fine/good to check back some nut flush draws, but probably don't want to do it with this hand (blocking 2nd-nut flush draw), and protecting the checkback range seems thoroughly unnecessary against two loose/passive players like these cats.
@@sh0wtime943 cold calling a 3b with 33/44 from the SB seems pretty bad to me. They aren’t super deep.
Great video! Thanks as always.
I agreed with Bart that checking the flop is a mistake by hero. On the river, it just depends what I think of SB. The LJ is always putting his last 100 in, he's just pot committed [even though it's actually a mistake, it's one that almost all players make]. The issue with the SB is that he should fold, but he might call. Bart's point about him getting better than 4 to 1 is a good one. Most players cannot get away from that. But again, they really should.
How are we discussing anything but a jam here? Once we check the NFD on the flop the reason why we add these hands into a check back range is exactly to get value when we get there and our opponents are put to the test. I have no idea why its even an debate. If the board was say 34T turn J river J then we can discuss maybe flatting rivers but on this type of run out it's a slam dunk value jam
What is a cold call
i kind of disgree about ur guys comment on LJs play. He only has 80bbs starting the hand. after sb cc 3b, the pot gonna be 12x3+1=37. he only has 68bbs left and spr is lower than 2. A lot of u talking about 4b pre, it is kind of weird with his 80bbs stack, how much he can 4b without jamming pre with sb cc 3b？By flating 3b with AA, he can keep all the bluff and can stack off whenever he wants to. Same logic when u play tourney flating with AA with 15-20bbs depth.
Wow great analysis
He was trying to rope the late position in the call what it seams like to me
Why would JT or even QJ call there? Is he expecting the hero to jam an 8 for value/turn into a bluff w/ LJ with only a 100 back? Jamming a hand like A3s makes sense. Jamming AKs makes no sense at all. Then again, the LJ has AA; I know fuck all about life poker
For the same reason he cold called JT preflop. He doesn't like folding. (But I do think it's close and just calling is thoroughly defensible.)
This is why it is close between a call and a jam. Against a thinking player, lower flushes probably should not call because hero can't be bluffing. Hero almost can't have a straight, so calling with JsTs means you think hero is going to turn over 6s5s a large percentage of the time, which he is definitely not going to do.
How this guy was thinking on the flop is an example of players way over thinking their play. The fact he isn’t sure what betting accomplishes is interesting… anyone with any equity will call a smallish bet… which would be the ideal bet… 35%ish. You bet here to build the pot in case you hit the nuts and to deny equity on players who stay in when they shouldn’t… all hands with combo draws can check, but this hand is a clear bet, giving yourself a free look at the river in case you brick the turn, etc.. don’t over think what you’re doing. Focus on the most ev play and not always the one that makes you balanced… and fyi, checking to have nut flush draws in your checking range doesn’t give balance as it’s a hand that should almost always bet for value and equity denial
At least you didn’t fold river. This is really -ve play.
Folding river merely 0EV! However, if you would give up in this spot, likely makes previous decisions -EV.
Good caller.
Flop check wasn't great, otherwise this hand is very easy to play. Shoving or calling on the river are both close, doesn't really matter. Just pick one and go....
Don't know the outcome yet but I just can't think that SB or LJ has a boat here... with a straight and a flush draw on the flop it checks around? that would just be a wildly terrible play for someone with a set...
Most of the time at low stakes, all this poker coaching goes out the window. PPL limp and cold call all day long just to see flops. Then if they have anything they become checking and calling stations. It becomes a game of bingo where anyone can have anything. This is why I prefer tourneys.
If anything people gamble much more in tourneys. Cash games are always tougher than tourneys of equal stakes
I play this game twice a week, and it’s never this shallow, nor does play like this usually happen. Couldn’t have been a Tuesday or Friday night
Dam Bart , Your making everybody too Smart!🤫
I don't see the point to Bart's jam on the end. Would a weaker flush really call? He has to worry about both higher flushes and boats. I would prefer a min raise to not only potentially get a little more value but also to induce a bluff.
Bet flop, equity protection, can get called by worse draws that have terrible equity.
Turn you will be able to check back after flop is called. Can call as played.
River given stack depth easy jam all in. If SB a boat so be it, they're not getting away from most of their hands given pot odds given. It's not a shocker if you lose to a full house from sb but you should beat half the calls. LJ should almost never have a hand that beats us.
LJ is irrelevant but Ohrani shows above that value bet is slightly losing unless SB can have hands like Q6 which I think is overly optimistic. Ten boats and quads, only eight flushes at most. Can't jam.
As for flop, I think betting is fine but it probably is your best NFD to check back. It's true that against bad players, bet probably makes more money but as a baseline strategy checking back this hand at least sometimes is more sound.
If I’m the LJ I will always 4bet AA then c-bet after the flop and might as well shove all in @ the turn..
I'm definitely going all in on the river
Definetly raise river,a ton of worst hands will call especially when flop wasnt bet.Thats about all the analysis this needs
I so wish your callers were at my tables.
Lojack has dead man's hand?
Gr8 vid Bart
I’m so happy that pocket AA got burnt with this kind of play. And I am! Gottn sick of pocket AA limps, or just calls pfr…and then slow playing it all the way to river against 2 opponents…, and then called my (pair of KK) bet! Beat a crap out of me just because I’d thought that no way he can have pocket AA with this kind of arriving to the river.
Tell us how you really feel. You should be flatting AA in some spots for sure, if nothing more than to balance your 3 and 4 bet ranges
@@bryanloch7747 it's always a good feeling stacking out a pocket AA balance opponent.
No way can he raise!!
Why is cold calling so bad?
The safe play is flat. If I felt that anyone couldn't have a full house then I jam. I play a lot with OMC's. So out of that, I'd just flat
This was an example of only getting the minimum, although I get why you may be scared of a boat
Always jamming riv vs 2 obv recs
His real mistake was not betting the flop
This should always be a jam on the river by hero. Reasons…
1. The pot ratio to stack size on the river is like 4 to 1 after the sb leads out
2. His range - He cold called a 3 bet out of the small blind. So I would think the range consists of a lot of mid pairs, some over pairs up to QQ and some suited connectors (loose but let’s give him that given that is where he ended up!). There are more flush and overpair combos than the 9 combos of flopped sets in his range.
Given all of the above, I always jam knowing sb is getting 6 to 1 on a call and can never fold any of the value hands we beat. If he has one of the 9 combos of flopped sets I am happy to pay him knowing he will be paying me a much higher percentage of the time.
Hero is taking only raise when a worst hand will call too far,plenty worst hands will call in this spot,not sure why he is so afraid
Noob players often leave that little bit behind when they have the nuts. I bet this guy has a full house.
I feel like this was an extremely simple hand
Can't believe this is what live poker has evolved into. It's such an auto shove it's not even close, if he has a full house god bless him, you beat 99% of possible hands. Grow a pair
Can you construct a plausible SB continue range such that jam is winning here? I can't.
@@adamshort2534 How about J10 spades. Q10s, Q9s, 910s, 56s. 5 combos of flushes vs. 3 combos of 7, 2 combos for 4 and 3 (discounted because maybe he folds pocket 3 and 4 sometimes preflop,) and 2 combos of 78 suited. That's maybe 7 combos that beat hero. Hero completely underrepped his hand though. On the river he is capped to a middling flush and a middling flush wouldn't jam river. So a jam wouldn't make sense and might even get 56 clubs (a good chunk of 56 will check raise the flop) or A8 diamonds to call. LJ only had a little over $100 left and a jam would be giving SB 3.5 to 1. Nobody is going to find themselves in this spot though.
@@aheroictaxidriver3180 lol ok buddy
If you're afraid to get your stack in with the nut flush on that board with the effective stack sizes you shouldn't be playing poker. Seriously did you listen to how the hand played ?
@@AT-bw4cm Yeah, that makes sense; I think that's very, very optimistic (players who coldcall 3bet with 65s probably do so with any PP) but if you give villain A8 and 65 no flush then sure, jam is good even if he can have all his boats and quads.
At these stack sizes, I’m raising 99.99% of time on river
I don’t think you can give them high enough probability of a boat to not raise here. Just raise it.
I don't like the hero's play but it looks brilliant compared to LJ
Long live live poker!!
AA could have won at turn possibly.
What I think is that when LJ calls it's likely both players have flush+ and if one player has a flush the other one is super unlikely to also have a flush. Thus, boats are definitely a threat
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What people don't seem to understand is that you need villain to call with worse hands over 50% of the time. Also they WILL fold some hands against a raise, especially on the river. So just a few boats will already ruin your day. That said, the raise size really isn't that big, so in this spot you really need to crunch the numbers to get the solution.
Raise is 620 into 1770 which is around 37%. Against the LJ it's significantly smaller. SB should defend around 75% of their range. Maybe even tigher considering it's 3 way, maybe a bit wider since LJ is so short. Thus we need SB to have less than 75%/2 = 37.5% boat's. Let's count the combos.
SB is clearly clueless about preflop so we give them more flushes and boats than reasonable. flushes: JT, QJ, QT, J9, T9 -> 5 combos. Considering card removal from LJ it should be even less combinations. Boats+: 33, 44, 77 -> 6 combos, 78s 88 -> 3 Combos. That's a total of 9 combos!! So if SB calls with all flushes and boats it's still a terrible jam. Having the Ks really does block a lot of weaker flushes SB could have. There isn't even T8, T7, 98 available with the board. And even if we give them 65, which is ridiculous, they still have more boats than flushes
@@aheroictaxidriver3180 let me rephrase that: hero needs 50% equity against the calling range. I feel like you purposely misinterpreted but w/e
@@aheroictaxidriver3180 I've never seen anyone misinterpreting the formulation like that when it's completely clear from the context. And your rephrasing is just purely wrong: 50% and "most of the time" are not interchangeable. As is getting called and getting action. Getting called by worse 50% of the time only works when there are no raises (like in this case where hero is all-in) when you factor in possible raises from villain you need to have even better equity.
don't understand hero not betting the flop. if the river is any other card you lose the pot. also don't understand LJ checking the flop
Parx poker, everyone cold calls big opens or 3 bets., flop bingo..
He is beat on river everytime
please add a comma to the title
So much bad play from multiple players. Where can I find these guys at my table
You should never fold at the end there or even raise because there's two hands that beat you. A Full house and Quads. One the Flop Hero lost out on lots of Value. Same can be said on the turn if he already bet the flop and then checked to on the turn.
How is it even a question he had the best hand 😂 new age poker guys if u want to play online hit me up great games day and night
I'm jamming here automatically...if I lose god bless them...these players are TERRIBLE!
Ez fold on river
You missed value, big time.
Caller making excuses why he did not bet! 1000 percent bet! And stop BS
I think it's a fold. 3 way pot, there's got to be a full house somewhere.
You shouldn’t play poker then
Lmao
I'm new to poker. I basically had the same hand. I had the nut flush. k was in my hand A was on the board. I bet large every street. Hit flush on turn. I ended up losing going all in to a 9s over 5s boat. I had him on a set of 9's the whole time after the flop Never thought he would call my 3 bet pre flop and big raise post flop with 9-5 off . He flopped trip 9s and then got the boat on the river. I'll learn. Didn't get big enough to get him out before river trying to get value I guess.
@@richardryan7566 unlucky bro you played it well
Yeah it was a re buy tourney and he basically said I just have a lot of money. I don't care. He knows I had him beat on the turn with the flush draw hitting but still called with his set of 9's. He admitted the 5 at the end was complete luck. It happens.
Donks at every level, terrible play all around
8n will call
jt is not foldoing , its all luk, you think better player becasue you analyzit it bno differance.
no differeance,, aa, 4 betss 5 brts his calling with ak, and his calling after the flop. so differance,
just luck.
aa just cost t jt of spade money, nothing more.
Calls the other players weak/passive - checks flop. lol