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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
- RED recently announced the DSMC2 Dragon-X 5K camera. Since the RED Raven 4.5K camera and the Dragon-X both use the RED Dragon sensor, what's the difference? Is it worth upgrading from the RED Raven to the Dragon-X?
If you are looking to up your cinematography game, the Dragon-X can certainly help you. The interchangeable lens mount means you can attach your favorite lenses even if they are something odd like a Nikon mount. You can also change out the Optical Low-Pass Filter or OLPF on the Dragon-X. This allows you to change how Infrared and Ultra Violet light are blocked from the sensor. The Skin Tone-Highlight OLPF has the best color rendition, while the Low-Light Optimized OLPF has the least amount of noise in low-light situations.
We also found that the larger size of the sensor on the Dragon-X meant overall smaller noise and a wider image on the same lenses when compared to the RED Raven.
Perhaps the biggest upgrade to the Dragon-X over the Epic Dragon is the ability to create color graded dailies in-camera. This means you can use with RED's new IPP2 color pipeline for your camera originals, and can also record ProRes or DNxHR 2K proxies in Rec. 709 with the director of photography's creative LUT applied directly to the footage.
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Finally a more detailed look into the Dragon X. Thankyou so much for your valid input! I was considering buying a DSMC EPIC X for $10K which is cheap! But for an extra $10K i could buy the Dragon X DSMC2...decisions.
I’ll take 3. Digging the new aspect ratio dude!
Excellent test
The flamethrower omfg
I think that I'll stick to my BMPCC4K cause I simply doesn't have the money
Some really great content coming out of this channel! Makes me wish I had the money for a Jellyfish. One note: as I understand it, the main reason for an OLPF is actually to prevent moiré at the cost of resolution/apparent sharpness. Cameras like the Nikon D800E remove the OLPF to squeeze out that extra little bit of resolution. Red is fairly unique in that it offers various OLPFs that affect exposure and color rendition (and cut IR/UV), but the primary function is still to prevent moiré, no?
@@LumaForge That's really interesting! It makes a lot of sense considering the differently sized photosites like you said.
Great review, considering Red for a long time and now it looks like Dragon X is a best deal! And btw what the name of the song in the intro?
ya they started taking low pass out to allow more light
I want one
THIIIIIIIIS.. is a tutorial !!! congratultions...
great video dude! i'm really curious how this compares to the komodo now
I think im going to save for the 15k$ kit, with the 18-35 and then ill buy also a 50-100
@@LumaForge how long does thoes kit batteries last the idx
Great video. Do you know if the standard OLPF comes with the red dragon or do you have to buy it separately?
@@LumaForge thanks for the reply mate
Would you recommend the gemini 5k or the dragon x 6k? Or should i wait for the dsmc3 which is coming in the end of 2020 or perhaps early 2021?
Great video !
Great review! I thought the sample footage from REDs site had so much noise even in bright daylight, is this anything you have noticed as well?
B&H selling the kit for $10k right now.
Great video. I recently got a DSMC2 Dragon X 6k with a firmware version 7.4.1 but on the image pipeline options, there is no IPP2 option, only Legacy. I want to ask how come your Red Dragon X supports in camera IPP2? I saw on around 4min part that you can access IPP2 in camera
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consult this technical support for any complain, request or enquiry.
Thank you!
whats the intro song?? btw very very good video
I soooo want it 😅
It’s maddening that Scarlet-W owners have to upgrade to Dragon-X to stay on upgrade path but it’s the SAME sensor (as Scarlet). RED basically came up with a $6k fee for existing owners and we have to pay it (to stay on upgrade path). Welcome to the upgrade treadmill.
This does suck as Scarlet-W owner.. however, I think the smart move is actually to just spend the $5K more and do the 10K upgrade to the Gemini which I see as the longer term play. DSMC3 is probably still about 2 years out IMO.
So sad nobody gives an opinion T_T.... Dragon X 5k or EPIC W what to choose, both in the pipeline IPP2 DSMC 2, both for 13k..... what you guys think?
mine came yesterday
@@LumaForge i like it but bad news my monitor was glitching and not responding sent back for exchange really haven't shot anything for real
@@LumaForge had to send whole brain and kit back .. says 1week but im playing with footage i did get why is it so noisy @ 800 iso
In 2021/2022 would you suggest the raven as a good choice in camera or get the dragon x?
That's not what an OLPF does!
Red provides OLPF to filter out IR and UV light as well, and modify a bit of color acquisition. But in essence, an OLPF is tasked to filter out high spatial frequencies in the image (basically the most fine details, that the sensor can't record as details, and could record as aliasing).
@@LumaForge Oh!
But then why call it an LPF? :')
Is the Red Dragon X 5K a different camera from the Scarlet???
Just dont understand how anyone can justify dropping 20k on the same exact specs as a URSA Mini Pro G2. Black Magic's image quality is fantastic and the value is so much better. Plus you don't need to get roped into Red's proprietary ecosystem where you're paying 300 bucks for a cable and 1800 dollars for a hard drive.
Christian Santiago Which specs are you comparing? Have you done any side by side testing with the two?
Patrick Southern aside from a slight difference in resolution, both cameras do the exact same thing and the ursa comes with built in NDs. Whatever incremental variances one might find aren’t enough to justify 3X premium.
Christian Santiago Which things do they do exactly the same? Have you tested them side by side? Image quality has very little to do with marketing tech specs. They may be similar on paper, but what about in the real-world?
Nice
cant afford but is bad ass camera
how you like the 6k upgrade
nice
this kinda wasn't a review you just talked about what you like not really about the camera and features and usage and differences
It doesn't even support 8K.
8K resolution should be the bottom line, just like 44kHz sample rate for audio.
To expensive for “only” 5k. Mavo lf is 6k and pro kit cost as 🐉 🧠. Ofc they r not still established brand with customer care logistics etc but it looks as a promising line. Best thing on this one is changeable lens mount. Unfortunately, price is still to high.
Anyone got the name of the intro song?
I can get a EPIC W or a DRAGON X both for same price.... what should I do...? Damn! Any advice?
How?
@@LumaForge I can get any of those 2 brains for 13k plus :) I've got 2 local guys near me who wanna sell. So I don't know what to do to be honest, what you guys think is best option? having in consideration 8k workflow, cropped sensor for slow mo, and 5k Dragon sensor vs Helium...
David Moreno Belmonte are they DSMC2?
@@CoveringFish Good question. Yes they are, but Epic W in not the 8k 60fps and 300mbs model, if that is what you are asking.
David Moreno Belmonte just wondering if you’d be in the pipeline. It gets confusing
hello sir is the red dragon x is right for beginners like me? or the raven is?
@@LumaForge hi sir can you gave one? pleaseeeeeeeee, ..... I will do everything you want pleaseeeeee
@@LumaForge the red raven kit is sold out, I saw it in the computer, now where can I buy a raven if I'm in the Philippines
@@LumaForge where should I buy if I'm in the Philippines?
check it, It was sold out
What is it's cost ?
when a camera is almost half as expensive as your house O.o
Price
yeap guys, the Dragon kit is ONLY 20K yeap only 20k ohh by the way its in USD lol
VISION0STUDIO Considering the price of an Arri Alexa or RED’s Monstro, $20,000 is a steal. Remember, when RED originally hit the market, the least expensive digital cinema camera was closer to $80,000 USD.
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Great review. I'm really loving my Dragon X, check out some of my latest uploads.
REDS suck
Sensors are okay
But the camera it self it just shuts of out of no where dosent turn on sometimes
This is guaranteed to happen if u buy a red camera they are way to cheap and if u do want the best camera and the best bang for your buck buy an Alexa
Red sensors are not "okay", they are just the best in the world.
Red brains? Yeah, Red brains suck.
I have Nikon d7100 my camera is better 😂
An overpriced pocket 4K.
Cannot afford but is bad Ass Film camera