If it ever happens, who would you like to see as the villains of the Hell Arc of Bleach? Could we see the original Captains of the Gotei 13 return? Will more revived Espada appear? Let me know your thoughts!
The only espada I can imagine return are Nnoitra, Aarenerio and Summari. About the original Gotei 13 members it would need new design after Kubo drew them on a portrait
To me it seems likely that the ruler of Hell has some kind of relation to Ichibei, as a progenitor "prime being" just below the Soul King. Hell being kept out of the normal "3 worlds" cosmology seems like a deliberate form of secret-keeping. Either that, or Hell predates the 3 Worlds. Perhaps it's where the Soul King himself came from?
Gin is someone I’d be the most interested to see because I can see him holding a huge grudge against Aizen if he gets involved. Also adds to his tragedy since he really should’ve been at peace but instead ends up somewhere terrible
I hope Isane gets to reunite with Unahona at some point in this arc. Maybe she can show Unahona how far she’s come. Imagine if Unahona asked to see Isane’s bankai.
@@Babylauncher3000 Each of them could have a desing based on their respective sins. But less seven deadly sins style an more like the Espada each personified an aspect of death. Lets say Unohana could have a design were her face is split in two and she has a long tongue that is always drenched in blood or smt like that to represent that she developed basically two personas and was bloodthirsty. Kubo can definitely go wild in the body horror there
@@gabrieldossantos1116I hope not. I find it would be more creepy if he make them more menacing looking in subtle but extremely creepy ways but of course with some down right terrifying looking . Not literally go all gory with each character residing there. I wouldn’t be surprise he go based off how far gone they are with looks.
I could see the villains being a mix of the different races who are all terrible people rather than a single species. It'd be a good excuse to bring back a good mix of everyone from each arc.
Hi! New subscriber! Just wanted to drop on behalf of my late sister, that she would absolutely MELT if her Ukitake was brought back as a villain and ended up soloing Shunsui. In 2009 she daydreamed of such a scenario and at that time I didn’t think it was possible, but NOW… keep cooking Kubo!! I hope she can see this in spirit !
Not really. Rukia's attitude towards the gates appearing to drag a Hollow to Hell near the beginning of the series was very nonshalant. Like the Hell Gates showing up was not that uncommon at all for Shinigami who purify spirits in the Human world.
I still want to see how the Shinigami Women's Association may have fared after the TYBW Arc. Hardly anyone mentions how badly decimated this organization's leadership became after the main story.
Honestly, I would also find it pretty believable for the Noble Families' first ancestors (I didn't read all of CFYOW but I believe they were the five powerful beings that sealed away the Soul King) to be the rulers of Hell and the main enemies. And if all five of them were sent to Hell via the same ritual or something similar, it would totally make sense as well that, due to the utterly INSANE amount of time they spent there, their physical and spiritual forms would have been altered and warped so much that they would've basically created a whole new race within the realm.
This is the perfect chance to include Yachiru and Ukitake as major characters at least. From what I read, the one we do see return seemed a lot more obsessively violent. Maybe Kenpachi could face the previous holder of his title a second time. Ukitake never showed his Bankai either, so we’ll almost certainly see it from him in hell Plus, based on the clear difference between souls being reborn in a cycle and the complete separation of this cycle by being sent to hell, Maybe Ywach would have been sent to hell if he lost to Ichibe. His wording during their fight was also “Remove from the cycle of rebirth” not 100% sure of the exact wording though
I hope we get a new faction tbh. Don't get me wrong, seeing the OG Captains would be dope, but I hope we also get introduced to a new form of entities alongside the returning characters. New lore, new power scales and factors to contend with
same, as much as im a lover of DBZ I dont need them to pull a frieza with this one…Id love to see a whole new group with dangerous intent and sick abilities…
It would be cool if it was a combination: like if the returning characters (espada and captains) are just the underlings of the real villains, some sort of demon lords.
What can we name them? I’m wondering what suits We have Shinigmai, Hollow, Arrancar, Espada, Quincy, Sternritter. So many cool terms I wonder what can go along with them to describe hell beings
Would like seeing a rematch of Zaraki and Unohana with her getting a power up and him learning more of his real power. Maybe even fights with other kimpachi.
Would also be interesting to draw parallels between the Hellfire of Ryujin Jakka and Kenpachi's oni transformation, as zanpakuto spirits with Hell origin.
Just an interesting thought about Kazui and the fish... I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but Ukitake's zanpaku-to is named Sōgyo no Kotowari (双魚理). If you break down the kanji, the first two (双魚) means a pair of carp (the reading may be a bit different outside usage in a name). I wonder if there's some connection between Kazui and Ukitake being foreshadowed there. Also, The last kanji in Ukitake's zanpaku-to name, 理, (kotowari) means something like logic, reason, justice, truth, ect., so one translation could be 'justice of the twin carp'. I find that interesting given that Ukitake seems to be keeping the maniacs from escaping Hell at the moment. Just some random thoughts lol. If anyone has a better take on the Japanese there, do reply and let me know!
Ngl the OG Gotei 13 would be dope af as the big bad of the hell arch. I'm so here for this idea. Plus the fact Kubo made sure to have them introduced in the TYBW makes me see a fairly solid setup for it to happen
Ukitake's sword looked a lot longer than usual in the panel he stabbed Szayel. So I'd assume he has already changed too somehow despite just having just arrived there
Nah it's probably it's true form, isshin mentioned zanpakuto would be the size of skyscrapers. Since ukitake is in hell he doesn't need to suppress his soul.
@@ZytenEspadaisshin mentioned that they would be that huge if they couldn’t control their reaitsu. Ukitake clearly has great control. This is probably just an enhancement same way espada 8 is more powerful than ever.
You know, other than members of the Gotei 13 being Guardians within Hell, most likely guarding the exits. I also imagine the Zanpakuto spirits being manifested within Hell. And Hell's effects could affect how Zanpakuto spirits are. Imagine Sogyo no Kotowari being adults or ready to help their Shinigami protect an exit.
@@gammafrost having the ability to make something that should be the size of a skyscraper be the size of a sword usually means you would also have the ability to let it go back to being the size of a skyscraper. at will.
That would be totally unfair to make such a good and kind person as Juishiro Ukitake a villain. He never got enough screen time, we haven't seen his bankai, he made tragic sacrifice. And after all that a villain? I don't believe in evil Ukitake. I don't want to believe that the most kindhearted captain ended up like a bad guy. Sorry for my english. I'm not native speaker.
Yeah it just makes no sense, basically a recycling of the zombie captains, maybe after the kill him they bring him back to life and he's good. Very boring premise if they go that route.
To me the espadas, the deceased Gotei 13 captains, etc could be potential villains, but, for the main villain, it should be a Emma Sama like character given we are talking about Hell and Bleach is inspired in japanese lore with themes and characters like the shinigamis or possible Kubo would create an underworld/hell lord based in other foreign or another cultures like greek (with Hades) or judeocristian (like Satan) depending how he chose.
Agreed.. previous Captains could be a potential Espada or Sternritter type enemy with a new leader from Hell as the main big bad. It would be a huge miss to do a Hell Arc and not see Bleach’s version of “Satan” whatever that is. I’d love to see Kubo’s hellish character designs for the next set of enemies. Reusing old characters as enemies is interesting, but I think I’d rather see a whole new set of enemies tbh.
For potential villains, I think the Hell arc being a culmination of all that came before would be super cool. Shinigami, Hollow, and Quincy all fighting together under some demonic entity that wants to take over all of creation after being freed from hell. Maybe it's ruler is even the counterpart to Reio or Reio himself, enacting vengeance for his betrayal.
I would like to think there is another entity in Hell who is just as powerful as Reioh since the Hell dimension has prexisted since before the Soul King created Heaven and Earth. It would make sense. But then you'd have to explain where this "hell god" has been this whole time.
@Chann223 probably sitting in hell. It seems hell can't exactly be messed with in terms of being destroyed which is probably why they choose to put a lid on it Instead.
I’ve been wanting you to tackle this topic for a while and there’s so many opportunities. We get a chance to see Ukitake fight unshackled by his illness, potentially more zero division, Aizen, exploration of hell. Kenpachi gonna crazy with that reunion with a stronger Unohana 😂😂😂😂.
most bleach fans are unaware of the big influence Saint Seiya has on bleach (kubo watched/read it as a kid) and so if i had to wildly speculate i could see this arc taking inspiration from the Hades arc. i could see ,initially, some deceased captains (maybe the original gotei) being framed by kubo as the bad guys/betrayers of soul society, much how it happened in the saint seiya arc with their gotei/captain analogs. if it were 1:1, i guess, then later on we would get the twist that secretly the hell captains were being double agents trying to stop whoever the big bad guy that runs hell is and their plans. 🤔
That would be a great homage to Saint Seiya while also serving an air of mystery or intrigued. Something that Bleach's arcs sometimes have (Soul Society and The Lost Agent).
I've got a theory about the rulers of Hell in Bleach - Dragons. Stick with me here. Once Burn the Witch gets its follow-up, it's expected to weave the two series together and delve deeper into Tite Kubo's narrative. In this expanded lore, Dragons could emerge as the powerful beings overseeing Hell.
I hope we get to see Chad play a bigger role in this, specially since he's been pushed to the back of the crowd towards the end of the series and made almost irrelevant, not to mention he himself has "hellish" powers. "Brazo izquierdo del diablo" (his white arm) translates too "Left arm of the devil". He's been one of my favorite characters and his backstory & fight with the now head captain Kyoraku are still one of my fav moments.
I'm pretty confident Ulquiorra is going to be in hell. Ichigo's hollow and shinigami powers are so intertwined that Kubo could easily just say Ulquiorra was killed by a zanpakoto since Zangetsu was technically the one who killed him in that hollow form.
Being killed by a zampakuto is not the only condition for going to hell! Ulquiorra was never a human,he has no sins,watch episode 5 again Rukia literally explains how a hollow go to hell.
@Acnologia120 well yeah 💀. Ichigo never got a definitive win against him. You do know the espada have become way more powerful after being damned to hell right 😂😂. Ssyazel was able to damage renji post timeskip which means ulquiorra would be even more broken now.
@@gammafrostDude Syazel attacked a Renji thar wasn't even in bankai and had to protect his daughter and was also the og 0 Espada. Ulp would literally get one shot by base Ichigo the very second they fight or gets toyed with like the Bambis.
Judging from the sean in the hell ark, it looks like the Captains who died have higher authority over the hollows down there. The sword that impelled him was huge looking at that made me think the Captains must have undergone some type of transformation in hell.
I just want Kubo to finally give some spotlight to Soi Fon and the Vizards. I want major fights for them that actually showcase their abilities instead of getting one shot.
I kinda don't want Bleach to become "fight porn" - the series. A lot of characters showcase things in fights that people still overlook because it just not "cool" the way they like it to be. So it would be wasted anyway. Focused on actually telling a story, unlike CFYOW or SAFWY.
@@jsalg6481 I hope so. His backstory and how powerful he supposed to be came out of nowhere. It was probably done to hype up how strong the sternritters were, but I would love to see him in action.
@@D-Havoc You can have both. Fights and story. I just want to see these characters have an actual fight instead of the one sided ass whooping. I want to see what the vizards can do when they are not being used to make the bad guys look strong and intimidating. I want to see an actual Soi Fon fight with shunko and shikai along with her various flashstep techniques. Oh, and not fight an enemy that is immune to her shikai power because that fuckin lame. You gave these guys these guys these powers, let them use them.
While their reiatsu level is made out to be a clear factor, it doesn't have to be the only reason. Yamamoto and Unohana used to be bloodlusted criminals while being part of the original Gotei 13. After the first blood warfare they decided to lay low but that doesn't cleanse their many sins of the past. Szayelaporro was terrible as a human. Mayuri in his being as a soul reaper only cleansed his hollow sins. The mulitated soul king is the soul Society's original sin. Ukitake survived his illness off a piece of the god that the ancestors had killed and mulitated. That makes him a sinner. This fits well into the narrative because the concept of hell is corruption.
"The mulitated soul king is the soul Society's original sin" i think it should mutilating soul king is soul society's first sin. Because you sound like blaming soul king
@@mauroxxi6380No. What they meant was that Mayuri killed (purified) the hollow Szayel, which only purified Szayel's sins as a hollow, but Szayel as a human (before he became a hollow) was horrible human being. Hollows that were sinners as humans before they became hollows (like murderers or rapists) get sent to Hell (based on their sins as a human) since Shinigamis cannot purify a human's sins, only a hollows sins.
Well considering how much of a disappointment the soul king was, the king/queen of hell could be the all powerful being we were expecting. I think this arc is going to take the hell verse movie concepts and basically canonize them, while streamlining and adding new elements.
The reason why they do ‘Konso Reisai’ after 12 years of deceased captains is because of Chinese Zodiac years. There are 12 animals in total. And I wouldn’t be surprised if rulers of hell are 5 noble ancestors that created ‘original sin’. I believe they’re dead millions of years ago but stuck in hell since primordial era. They’re antithesis of ‘God’ (Soul King) that made Soul King sacrifice inside of ‘crystal seal’ in eons. They’re literally ‘King of Hell’ or ‘Satan’.
personally I think the captains have the role of the Kushanada, keeping the sinners down, or that should normally be the case. now that the gates have opened, hell might have been thrown into chaos
Hell is so weird in the bleach cosmology. It feels like kubo thought it was cool so he added it early on but then did all his world building and forgot about it. Like would hell have been effected at all with the soul kings death? Are their other realms outside the 3 worlds that exist? I really hope we get more soon!
The possibility that all the captains were holding back at some point gets me excited for the Hell Arc. Due to the possibility of seeing all the captains of Shinigami history going all out.
There are a few characters and series lore I'd love to get much needed expansion: Chad needs EXTREME love Current Espadas with secondary resurrections Rukon district and expansion of Shinigami in other cities or countries Actual fights and subtle changes in fighting choreography, like boxing, Kido-off Of course, Squad Zero bankai lol
I think the concept of Enma acting as a counterpart to the Soul King would be interesting. In addition, I think Kubo set up the original Gotei 13 as perfect villains with the art he published as well as the scenes from the TYBW anime. They were ruthless, bloodthirsty criminals, and two of them (Unohana and Yamamoto) were already named in the Hell Arc chapter.
the thing that I like about hell is that any previous dead character could be there so what if we could meet in some capacity every previous kenpachi either as ally, enemy or any kind of neutral faction
3 Predictions. 1. The main heavy hitters on the enemy side will be the original Gotei 13 + Ukitake 2. Kazui and Ichika will get a training arc in order to contribute in combat against the Sinners. 3. Ichigo will get hell powers because this is Bleach and if you introduce a power system that's supposed to be exclusive to a certain group Ichigo is garunteed to gain access to it
@@tristanward9937 I used to have this joke about the bount arc with my friends. The reason you know it isn't canon is because if it was Ichigo would've become a Bount half way through
I would like to see Sasakibe reunited with Yama in hell. Its not mentioned but Sasakibe does have Captain class reaitsu and it only makes sense he would go as well.
Could be that being in Hell brings out the worse parts of people, so with Syal its not obvious because even as a Hollow he was ruled by his worse nature aswell, but im imagining people like Yamamoto and Unohana, people who for aslong as they've been in the story have been "Good" but have a real dark side that we know about that they've mostly overcome/supressed but being in Hell has now brought those old dark sides back to the forefront, maybe Ukitake is still relatively "Good" since he was a fairly chill and nice guy in SS with only a minor dark side if he had one at all so could be an Ally in the Hell arc.
I could 100% see the original captains being evil simply because of the way they were described, but honestly I'd say the most likely ones to become evil are the captains who'd forgotten the true meaning of many of the rituals, who believe death would simply return them to the cycle of souls only to find themselves condemned to the very place they've sent countless vile creatures. Especially if the original gotei are fine using hell as their eternal playground (since I doubt death sticks for too long there, it seems like paradise for a group of battle junkies) and don't care how many times the weak fools of the newer generations die
Honestly, a part of me think that by some small chance Ichibe would take the role of antagonist during the hell arc. I mean considering how Ichigo’s son might be the driving plot point of said arc, Ichibe would notice this and probably enter the world of the living to either kill or make use of him in order to balance out the “natural” order of things. And considering how Ichigo won’t accept this, he’ll likely face him to protect his son. Plus it’ll be cool to see Ichigo vs Ichibe and we’ll probably get to see the full extent of Ichigo’s power and more if the current anime doesn’t do it first.
@@Rizingfz08 true but for all we know all the things happening and coming out from hell might reach the soul palace. So in someway they might have to get involved to deal with this threat.
yeah no, Ichibei is curbstomping ichigo. It's been well established that ichibei's ability is pretty much a trump card over all zanpakuto. Unless Kubo wanted to throw in another deus ex machina like with the silver arrow, I don't see Ichibei being a really big villain. Also I think with the quincy gone for good this time, the natural order wouldn't be at risk as it was.
We gotta see Gin and Aizen interact one more time . That would be so awesome. I can see Aizen saying ,"Gin you are truly a sneaky little snake to some how still be alive, im impressed"
Gins response would be masterclass😂"Well you did see my potential earlier on than most. To assume that you didn't have any suspicion on me says alot about you more than me."
22:14 if Yama, unohana, and ukitake going to hell is the reason the gates could open, then maybe they were also the reason it was closed when they were alive, if they’re strong enough to open it from the inside, then they’re probably strong enough to keep it closed from the outside.
Ikomikidomoe returning with his true name would be interesting. I'm still holding hope for Barragan to return, would be cool if the skull guy on page 71 on the Hell one shot was him.
@Baweybawey True, but he still had captain level reiatsu. So it would make sense that he had reiatsu too dense to break down for reincarnation as well.
Would like to see ichibe be dragged to hell, the true mastermind that more than likely orchestrated or laid the path for the majority of the suffering in the story, even more so than the noble families.
I cant help but notice, when Syzel grows his horns, plus the tatoos and a few other things, im reminded very much of Kennys Bankai. Do you think that Kenny could have sone origin or other connection to Hell?
For the Gates of Hell to suddenly open up like that, AFTER Yhwach, Gramps and co. completely erased themselves, for that balance to be tipped in favour of Hell tells me there are brings out there who collectively had Reiatsu or powers on par with the likes of Ichigo, Ichibei, Aizen, Yhwach before his erasure and so on. I feel we're going to get some INSANE new villains of the primordial world.
Imagine if yamamoto, unohana, and ukitake are villains at first then become good guys again (considering the length of their stay in hell) helping ichigo and others fight their co-original gotei 13 captains. Just imagine the massive impact of their battles.
I'm not sure how anyone except maybe Ichigo could stand up to Yamamoto alone, let alone the other two with him. Assuming the Hell Captains are _at least_ as strong as they were in life. Death. Pre-Hell, there we go.
I really hope someone destroys Hell or finds a way to let the Captains out, it’s ridiculous that someone like Ukitake was sent to Hell, he doesn’t deserve such a fate nor Yamamoto
If they're the villains, maybe the OG gotei were waiting for Yamamoto and Unohana, to be complete and make their move. If these two are gonna comply, that's another story, not to mention Ukitake, who's got a better nature/disposition.
Existing dead heroes and villains coming back as allies and enemies feels like a given, but the original Gotei 13 getting a new anime scene AND official colored art feels like the most blatant foreshadowing possible for them being important. They could be the next numbered villain group, with existing characters serving as the "pre-amble" fights, keeping the format of Bleach arcs so far going. Could get a couple of new Hell natives that are either neutral, the true final villain, or the villain before being usurped by someone else (most likely an old captain). I hope that who's fighting who, and how many big players actually get fights, is mixed up like they were all the way back in the Soul Society arc. Even though that came from a pretty clear intent to keep Soul Society's "villains" alive, it added layers of drama to the story that Bleach hasn't attempted since.
I like the idea that the villains will be the fallen Espada and captains. Maybe someone or something has the power to alter the mind of anyone who is sent to hell, maybe this person or thing could strip away the goodness/ conciousness or amplify the hate and anger within a person's soul turning them into soldiers for this hypothetically being
I’m pretty sure the hierarchy of hell is a giant prison if we take that into context we get The warden on the top Executive guards Guards Jailers Torturers Prisoners In this order since it makes sense right?
You explained clearly the conditions of going to hell and people are still commenting about damn Ulquiorra I'm so tired of Bleach fanbase being so ignorant...
We will definitely meet the possibility now corrupted powerful members of Gotei 13 alongside those from the past for obvious reasons. That's in addition to the various monstrosities that lurk in hell. This may be the final secret that hurts Soul Society alongside unfortunately others.
Thinking back to the Light Novels, one of the ancestors of the Noble Families wanted to use Reio's power to separate the world from Hell. I wonder if "the original sin" will somehow play into this arc. Wouldn't be shocking if it is revealed that the Nobles were manipulated by the then denizens of Hell to commit the ultimate sacrifice against Reio (think the serpent manipulating Adam/Eve) which eternally damned the balance of the worlds. Because Hell is around, I'm sure the Royal Guard will play into this arc if it ever gets drawn but if the events of WDKALY are true, then I think Ichibe is being investigated for his role in the TYBW? I'm not clear on this...
Also, wasn’t it implied that zanpakuto have souls? Could we potentially see a return of some of the zanpakuto spirit designs if they have also been cast down to hell along with their wielders
While the OG Gotei would be great to see, i'd rather Kubo introduce a brand new organization/faction of main Villains for Hell, led by a new big bad (The Warden of Hell maybe), and the OG Gotei could be the secondary faction. The Espadas are great and all, but using them as main villains allover again after being the villains for 60% of the series would be kinda "Eh"
Maybe the outcast former noble family?!?… wasn’t their ancestor known for doing hell stuff? Another solid Bleach video! This channel has been amazing to not need to read or watch everything again while the new tybw episodes are released. Cheer!
I imagine Hell being lless like its own "world", like SS, HUeco Mundo and the world of the living, and more like a very remote and autonumous branch of the Soul Society. Their relationship to the 13 guard squads are maybe similar to that of 0-division, or the people who run the Muken prison. Then it would also make sense that the captains are sendt to hell to be the jailors. So Ukitake is basically raining in his prisoner when he skewers Szayl. Also would be cool Shrieker returned as like a "rank and file" inhabitant of Hell. And then we get like a rude awakening by finding out that even he is really powerful and stuff
The og captains are definitely the best and obvious candidates to be villains in the hell arc. I mean there has to be actual reason why Kubo gave them actual character design and not just silhouettes after all this years. Plus it be a great way to flesh them out as characters
It begs the question. "If the OG captains where so strong wtf could kill them in the first place?". We've heard nothing of a calamity so crazy it killed more than half a dozen captains.
@@Babylauncher3000 They don't need to have all died at the same time tho. They could've just died of old age or aged enough so that they couldn't perform as well and either retired or were killed one by one rather than all at once. Yes they were powerful but as far as we know none of them were as strong as Yama and Unohana. Shunsui and Ukitake are the first generation of shinigami after the formation of the original gotei and they're hella strong so who knows what kind of little monsters came out of their generation.
@@Babylauncher3000 Bruh old age was just one of the things I said and it was just an example lol. We don't have any idea of how old they were before the thousand years so idk why you found that so weird.
@@gabrieldossantos1116 Yeah i just don’t know why you mentioned it. We know Shinigami generally physically age 1 year every 10 human years but that to slows over time. Yamamoto was visibly twice the age of most of the original Captains and was still around 1000 years later. Unohana only visibly aged 20-25 years in over 1000 as well.
The Hell Chapter was an all in one special. It was a slice of life chapter, it was like a movie where it introduced a "new" villain who is defeated in the same story, and it was the beginning of a potentially larger plot. When people speculated what the chapter would be, Kubo chose "all of the above". Surely there will be some explanation to write off potentially dozens of no-name captains in Hell. The Sternritter were already criticized for too many villains and we already have espada, demons, and the original 13 as potential options. Although, it could be cool to have a sort of civil war in Hell, where some captains have held onto their sanity while others have become demons.
I hope Kenpachi himself has to fight all the previous Kenpachi and simultaneously have the story show us all of them and give us the timeline. I also hope the original noble family heads are prominent if not part of the villains and heroes themselves. As for order in Hell, if I remember right, it was the last unnamed family of the five clans who originally suggested capping off the primordial chaos left from splitting the worlds and that would become Hell. So it is sort of primordial like you said, which makes sense as Hell doesn't seem that much like it's part of the natural cycle as first stated, and more where the unnatural and undesired are cast *out* of the natural cycle by being sent to Hell. But more importantly that clan could end up being the ones in charge of Hell themselves if that stays true from the novel which could be really cool. A single clan policing hell and why we've never seen a hint of them until now, and as Shinigami that'd be why they might employ other Shinigami like Ukitake to help when needed.
Me? Had an idea for a Hell Arc years ago. Called them ‘Sinners’. My version of Hell was more lawful, with Authority and Contracts prevailing throughout.
While the denizens of Hell will probably be the main antagonists, I also think Urahara and Ichibei will end up as near-final boss villains as the events of the arc cause a deeper and deeper reckoning with Soul Society's dark past.
In the Hell Verse movie, its stated that while Shinigami monitor and guard the gates from the outside, the dont have jurisdiction inside, and there are close to no records of the details inside. So its 100% believable that no one actually knew about this sooner.
This could be such a good arc. I dont see people like Unohana being a villain given how Kubo ended her story. Id love to see Ukitake be their guide through hell. A want the new faction to be demons because Kubo would have S tier designs. Maybe the original Gotei could be in a war against Hell to keep them from escaping? Or if they are also villains, id be okay with that. I just want to see them because their designs feel wasted on a slight flashback
Maybe demons are the real antagonists and the captains and espadas are lackeys? I’m hoping the demon’s are named in French. Tite Kubo said he wished to work with the French language.
Could also be the soul king going evil, assuming he ended up in hell given his insane reiatsu. Alternatively, could be the older Gotei who have a vendetta, as you had somewhat touched on, now that Yama himself is in hell. Like maybe they were afraid of Yama’s power and now that he’s dead, they want back. Idk, just shooting ideas.
I commented on your “Chad” video like two years ago. About him and his family being the hidden family and they rule over hell. That’s where he is going to shine an help explains why he’s such good friends with ichigo. Did a whole paragraph about it.
I think we’ll get 5 parts to the hell arc if it ever came first is Arrancar then quincies then fullbringers and then shinigami then the final part would be the king of hell will fuse all of races to their counterparts like stark yhwach ginjo and yama and make some op characters which would make all races work together to win and even squad zero could work with urahara to give them one time use bankais that wont destroy the 3 realms so we see oetsu tenjiro and hikifune and maybe senjumaru could get a new bankai like her soldiers a form like that which would use her arms and her swords with other abilities to play a mind game vs Szayelaporro jugram tsukishima and gin a fight of pure intelligence and evolution counter and counter and slowly build up a attack that will eventually destroy where they are fighting and each other almost completely but senjumaru would come out alive and end him there and then if I had to chose his fight
Tommo, I am so hurt. How could you ever say Ulqiorra could not be in hell because he was obliterated by a cero and not a zanpakuto? How could you ever forget? The sword is me. Ichigo's hollow power is his soul reaper power and by extension he was killed by an extension of Zangetsu. Haha I hope it gets you thinking! Love the new video I can't believe it's been 2 years and this still isn't out. I blame the garbage bleach brave souls. It has made Kubo a millionaire and allowed him to lay about and be lazy and Rich. But we still love him no
I hope Master Tite Kubo is in perfect physical health and his physical problems will not cause this unique arc to be limited to just this one chapter or cause us to not meet popular characters like Gin Ichimaru or Aizen sama again.
it would be fun to have Kazui be an enemy of sorts. the kid has a ton of potential and I am guessing his zanpakuto are koi fish. we can already guess from how he acts towards the koi fish in his dreams so he could end up being a very freaky character to fight. he also destroyed what was left of Yhwach.
About the Espadas I kinda want to see Stark but also something relatively surprising as I want some Fraccions to actually get "promoted" to stronger villains. That would be personnaly a very pleasant surprise if we have a built that leads to someone like Nnoitra or Szayel act as a huge personnality in hell but ultimately we get a surprise that someone like Ylford, Shawlong or Findorr got their potentials as Arrancars explode when they went to Hell (like how Grimmjow's Fraccions couldn't evolve further as Arrancars but going to Hell and then becoming something different than an Arrancar took away their limitations).
If Hell really is primordial, I think it might have served as a prison even then (potentially for enemies of the Noble Clans, or at least the ancestors from that time) so it would be interesting to have both the Espada and the Captains as foot soldiers to whatever primordial beings have been stuck in Hell since before the cycle was ever formed. This allows further discovery of both Soul Society's history, as well as the history of the primordial world outside of the original sin. There's also the theory that the unnamed noble family resides in Hell as well, or at least is heavily involved in it that could be explored. Also, if captains sent to hell can resist corruption, it would be cool to see Gin show up to potentially help Ichigo and co.
I’ve got a crazy theory and if it’s true kubo is the best at foreshadowing: Kubo said on klub outside Rukia has a SECRET RACE, now why was Ichika the only one to notice the hell creatures who seemingly have no reiatsu maybe BECAUSE SHES LINKED TO HELL meaning that Rukia’s extra race is HELL CREATURE 🤯
would be sick if Grand Fisher is in hell and is using the form of Ichigo's mother to trick Ichigo's son. then at some point we learn Masaki's soul was actually sent to hell along with Grand Fisher and a sub plot could be Ichigo's goal of freeing his mother's soul so that she can go to the soul society and we finally get the Ichigo vs Grand Fisher rematch we've been waiting for.
If it ever happens, who would you like to see as the villains of the Hell Arc of Bleach? Could we see the original Captains of the Gotei 13 return? Will more revived Espada appear? Let me know your thoughts!
The only espada I can imagine return are Nnoitra, Aarenerio and Summari.
About the original Gotei 13 members it would need new design after Kubo drew them on a portrait
ANY PREVIOUS CAPTAIN COMMANDER. WHO TRAINED YAMA???
To me it seems likely that the ruler of Hell has some kind of relation to Ichibei, as a progenitor "prime being" just below the Soul King.
Hell being kept out of the normal "3 worlds" cosmology seems like a deliberate form of secret-keeping. Either that, or Hell predates the 3 Worlds. Perhaps it's where the Soul King himself came from?
The dead original heads who imprisoned the soulking maybe??? In kubo's mind I'm sure he will come up with new villains
I want to see a fully functional Soul King as the enemy. I can't imagine anyone else from hell giving Ichigo problems at this point.
I'd like to see Nnoitra and Gin the most. Their hell designs will look insane.
Gin and Tosen would be very cool
Gin better look like a snake
Gin is someone I’d be the most interested to see because I can see him holding a huge grudge against Aizen if he gets involved. Also adds to his tragedy since he really should’ve been at peace but instead ends up somewhere terrible
@@ZytenEspada They never got the ritual to be sent to hell though..
@@mauroxxi6380 But wasn't it stated that they didnt give Gin a burial at all? I seem to remember that but I could be imagining.
I hope Isane gets to reunite with Unahona at some point in this arc. Maybe she can show Unahona how far she’s come. Imagine if Unahona asked to see Isane’s bankai.
You know I wonder how much of a bad ass Insane is as Unohanas former apprentice
She better have gotten significantly stronger in those 12 years because she was weak and the undead captains will be far stronger now.
that sounds so mid lmao
@@mauroxxi6380nah, that just isn't in Isane's nature. She's too kind for bloodshed 😅
We haven’t even seen what her shikai can even do yet
Wonder if the deceased Captains will have appearances that showcase their sins.
Would give Kubo the chance to flex his creativity.
Sin in relation to whom?
@@Babylauncher3000 Each of them could have a desing based on their respective sins. But less seven deadly sins style an more like the Espada each personified an aspect of death. Lets say Unohana could have a design were her face is split in two and she has a long tongue that is always drenched in blood or smt like that to represent that she developed basically two personas and was bloodthirsty. Kubo can definitely go wild in the body horror there
@@gabrieldossantos1116I hope not. I find it would be more creepy if he make them more menacing looking in subtle but extremely creepy ways but of course with some down right terrifying looking . Not literally go all gory with each character residing there. I wouldn’t be surprise he go based off how far gone they are with looks.
They're not in Hell because of their sins, though.
@@Amareehall101 true Kubo isn't Junji Ito😂
So, basically Ichigo damned himself to hell at the age of 15, that's dark
I could see the villains being a mix of the different races who are all terrible people rather than a single species. It'd be a good excuse to bring back a good mix of everyone from each arc.
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It is completely believable that Hell isn’t always acknowledged in Soul Society. It is a completely separate dimension that is cut off from shinigami
And perhaps, more related to the West Branch of Soul Society? Burn the Witch characters incoming?
Not really. Rukia's attitude towards the gates appearing to drag a Hollow to Hell near the beginning of the series was very nonshalant. Like the Hell Gates showing up was not that uncommon at all for Shinigami who purify spirits in the Human world.
@@joshstephens413West Branch deals with Supernatural entities within the world of the living. They arnt spirit beings like Shinigami are.
@@Babylauncher3000doesn't mean you have to be a spirit to deal with hell though
Why don't they just use the hell movie 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
I still want to see how the Shinigami Women's Association may have fared after the TYBW Arc. Hardly anyone mentions how badly decimated this organization's leadership became after the main story.
Lisa turned the SWA into a host club after being made captain. The Soul Society is in shambles
honestly, ngl and tbh we don’t gaf 😂
The Men's Association, too, after losing Chojiro.
We Do knot Always Love You cleared that up. The Kotetsu sisters have taken up leadership
@@m0ckyzo185 Oh, thanks for the info! I never read that one. I always headcanoned that Lisa and Byakuya may have headed it back up lol.
Honestly, I would also find it pretty believable for the Noble Families' first ancestors (I didn't read all of CFYOW but I believe they were the five powerful beings that sealed away the Soul King) to be the rulers of Hell and the main enemies.
And if all five of them were sent to Hell via the same ritual or something similar, it would totally make sense as well that, due to the utterly INSANE amount of time they spent there, their physical and spiritual forms would have been altered and warped so much that they would've basically created a whole new race within the realm.
This is the perfect chance to include Yachiru and Ukitake as major characters at least. From what I read, the one we do see return seemed a lot more obsessively violent. Maybe Kenpachi could face the previous holder of his title a second time. Ukitake never showed his Bankai either, so we’ll almost certainly see it from him in hell
Plus, based on the clear difference between souls being reborn in a cycle and the complete separation of this cycle by being sent to hell, Maybe Ywach would have been sent to hell if he lost to Ichibe. His wording during their fight was also “Remove from the cycle of rebirth” not 100% sure of the exact wording though
Kuruyashiki vs Zaraki would go crazy
Yachiru is just the manifestation of kenpachi's zanpakuto.
Ukitake vs Kyoraku would be epic
@@jaded_dreiko4225 And is also the true name of Unohana, the first Kenpachi. He’d never fight his own blade
@@jaded_dreiko4225Yachiru is Unohana. Different Yachiru as Zaraki's Zanpakutou
I hope we get a new faction tbh. Don't get me wrong, seeing the OG Captains would be dope, but I hope we also get introduced to a new form of entities alongside the returning characters. New lore, new power scales and factors to contend with
same, as much as im a lover of DBZ I dont need them to pull a frieza with this one…Id love to see a whole new group with dangerous intent and sick abilities…
It would be cool if it was a combination: like if the returning characters (espada and captains) are just the underlings of the real villains, some sort of demon lords.
@@dkreni2 yeah that would work also, cus like other comments Id love to see the original gotei 13 captains go against the new crew..
What can we name them? I’m wondering what suits
We have Shinigmai, Hollow, Arrancar, Espada, Quincy, Sternritter. So many cool terms I wonder what can go along with them to describe hell beings
Would like seeing a rematch of Zaraki and Unohana with her getting a power up and him learning more of his real power. Maybe even fights with other kimpachi.
Would also be interesting to draw parallels between the Hellfire of Ryujin Jakka and Kenpachi's oni transformation, as zanpakuto spirits with Hell origin.
Just an interesting thought about Kazui and the fish... I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but Ukitake's zanpaku-to is named Sōgyo no Kotowari (双魚理). If you break down the kanji, the first two (双魚) means a pair of carp (the reading may be a bit different outside usage in a name). I wonder if there's some connection between Kazui and Ukitake being foreshadowed there. Also, The last kanji in Ukitake's zanpaku-to name, 理, (kotowari) means something like logic, reason, justice, truth, ect., so one translation could be 'justice of the twin carp'. I find that interesting given that Ukitake seems to be keeping the maniacs from escaping Hell at the moment. Just some random thoughts lol. If anyone has a better take on the Japanese there, do reply and let me know!
Ngl the OG Gotei 13 would be dope af as the big bad of the hell arch. I'm so here for this idea. Plus the fact Kubo made sure to have them introduced in the TYBW makes me see a fairly solid setup for it to happen
Ukitake's sword looked a lot longer than usual in the panel he stabbed Szayel. So I'd assume he has already changed too somehow despite just having just arrived there
Nah it's probably it's true form, isshin mentioned zanpakuto would be the size of skyscrapers. Since ukitake is in hell he doesn't need to suppress his soul.
@@ZytenEspadaisshin mentioned that they would be that huge if they couldn’t control their reaitsu. Ukitake clearly has great control. This is probably just an enhancement same way espada 8 is more powerful than ever.
@@gammafrost possible
You know, other than members of the Gotei 13 being Guardians within Hell, most likely guarding the exits. I also imagine the Zanpakuto spirits being manifested within Hell. And Hell's effects could affect how Zanpakuto spirits are. Imagine Sogyo no Kotowari being adults or ready to help their Shinigami protect an exit.
@@gammafrost having the ability to make something that should be the size of a skyscraper be the size of a sword usually means you would also have the ability to let it go back to being the size of a skyscraper. at will.
Kubo continuing the gag of Ichigo not knowing who someone is will never not be hilarious to me.
That would be totally unfair to make such a good and kind person as Juishiro Ukitake a villain. He never got enough screen time, we haven't seen his bankai, he made tragic sacrifice. And after all that a villain? I don't believe in evil Ukitake. I don't want to believe that the most kindhearted captain ended up like a bad guy.
Sorry for my english. I'm not native speaker.
Completely agree. Would break my heart if he turned evil :(
I agree that would be stupid. He could become ruler of hell like a type of Enma figure? But villain gross.
Yeah it just makes no sense, basically a recycling of the zombie captains, maybe after the kill him they bring him back to life and he's good. Very boring premise if they go that route.
@@kyokasuigetsu5752Maybe have Utikate sacrifice themselves
@@StallionFernandoOr Utikate can help rule the Unified Hell
To me the espadas, the deceased Gotei 13 captains, etc could be potential villains, but, for the main villain, it should be a Emma Sama like character given we are talking about Hell and Bleach is inspired in japanese lore with themes and characters like the shinigamis or possible Kubo would create an underworld/hell lord based in other foreign or another cultures like greek (with Hades) or judeocristian (like Satan) depending how he chose.
Agreed.. previous Captains could be a potential Espada or Sternritter type enemy with a new leader from Hell as the main big bad. It would be a huge miss to do a Hell Arc and not see Bleach’s version of “Satan” whatever that is. I’d love to see Kubo’s hellish character designs for the next set of enemies. Reusing old characters as enemies is interesting, but I think I’d rather see a whole new set of enemies tbh.
@@DFTNSHEXGRMHave it like DC Blackest Night where the concept of a Natural Force is the Villian
Hades isn't a hell lord, he simply rules the world of the dead which includes Greek "heaven", Elysium.
For potential villains, I think the Hell arc being a culmination of all that came before would be super cool. Shinigami, Hollow, and Quincy all fighting together under some demonic entity that wants to take over all of creation after being freed from hell. Maybe it's ruler is even the counterpart to Reio or Reio himself, enacting vengeance for his betrayal.
Hell most likely has a lot of surprises stored within it
I would like to think there is another entity in Hell who is just as powerful as Reioh since the Hell dimension has prexisted since before the Soul King created Heaven and Earth. It would make sense. But then you'd have to explain where this "hell god" has been this whole time.
@Chann223 probably sitting in hell. It seems hell can't exactly be messed with in terms of being destroyed which is probably why they choose to put a lid on it Instead.
Have their own version of Darkseid or Mephisto
@@Chann223Maybe have it like Marvel where the Soul King push it far away
I’ve been wanting you to tackle this topic for a while and there’s so many opportunities. We get a chance to see Ukitake fight unshackled by his illness, potentially more zero division, Aizen, exploration of hell. Kenpachi gonna crazy with that reunion with a stronger Unohana 😂😂😂😂.
most bleach fans are unaware of the big influence Saint Seiya has on bleach (kubo watched/read it as a kid) and so if i had to wildly speculate i could see this arc taking inspiration from the Hades arc. i could see ,initially, some deceased captains (maybe the original gotei) being framed by kubo as the bad guys/betrayers of soul society, much how it happened in the saint seiya arc with their gotei/captain analogs. if it were 1:1, i guess, then later on we would get the twist that secretly the hell captains were being double agents trying to stop whoever the big bad guy that runs hell is and their plans. 🤔
That would be a great homage to Saint Seiya while also serving an air of mystery or intrigued. Something that Bleach's arcs sometimes have (Soul Society and The Lost Agent).
That would be cool
@@D-HavocSo Mister Grant could be Milos and Utikate Radamanthys
Imagine Lord Kubo combines DC's Blackest Night and Hades Arc, two of the greatest Story Line unified
No nigga horrible idea we don’t need more mfs saying kubo can’t write and stole ideas
Honestly It would be awesome if the Big Bads from the hell ark were the Five Original members of the noble families.
The 5 Original Siners.
4 the head of Shiba clan opposed to the plan of imprisioning (i dont know if this word is right written) the Soul King
@@oliwiersikora9724They still complied with the sealing and the dismemberment of Reiō, so they'd go to Hell too
I've got a theory about the rulers of Hell in Bleach - Dragons. Stick with me here. Once Burn the Witch gets its follow-up, it's expected to weave the two series together and delve deeper into Tite Kubo's narrative. In this expanded lore, Dragons could emerge as the powerful beings overseeing Hell.
I hope we get to see Chad play a bigger role in this, specially since he's been pushed to the back of the crowd towards the end of the series and made almost irrelevant, not to mention he himself has "hellish" powers. "Brazo izquierdo del diablo" (his white arm) translates too "Left arm of the devil". He's been one of my favorite characters and his backstory & fight with the now head captain Kyoraku are still one of my fav moments.
It’s been a while since I’ve watched one of your videos but it’s nice to see your genuine love for the franchise. It’s kind it’s kind of refreshing.
I'm pretty confident Ulquiorra is going to be in hell. Ichigo's hollow and shinigami powers are so intertwined that Kubo could easily just say Ulquiorra was killed by a zanpakoto since Zangetsu was technically the one who killed him in that hollow form.
I’m down for that. I would love to see his new he’ll design and it would be cool to see ichigo and him have a rematch.
Being killed by a zampakuto is not the only condition for going to hell!
Ulquiorra was never a human,he has no sins,watch episode 5 again
Rukia literally explains how a hollow go to hell.
@Acnologia120 well yeah 💀. Ichigo never got a definitive win against him. You do know the espada have become way more powerful after being damned to hell right 😂😂. Ssyazel was able to damage renji post timeskip which means ulquiorra would be even more broken now.
@@gammafrostDude Syazel attacked a Renji thar wasn't even in bankai and had to protect his daughter and was also the og 0 Espada. Ulp would literally get one shot by base Ichigo the very second they fight or gets toyed with like the Bambis.
@Acnologia120Ulquiorra will be 0-2 😂
Judging from the sean in the hell ark, it looks like the Captains who died have higher authority over the hollows down there. The sword that impelled him was huge looking at that made me think the Captains must have undergone some type of transformation in hell.
I just want Kubo to finally give some spotlight to Soi Fon and the Vizards. I want major fights for them that actually showcase their abilities instead of getting one shot.
Agree, and Sasakibe's return would be cool too
I kinda don't want Bleach to become "fight porn" - the series. A lot of characters showcase things in fights that people still overlook because it just not "cool" the way they like it to be. So it would be wasted anyway. Focused on actually telling a story, unlike CFYOW or SAFWY.
@@D-HavocIt kinda always been a fight porn.
@@jsalg6481 I hope so. His backstory and how powerful he supposed to be came out of nowhere. It was probably done to hype up how strong the sternritters were, but I would love to see him in action.
@@D-Havoc You can have both. Fights and story. I just want to see these characters have an actual fight instead of the one sided ass whooping. I want to see what the vizards can do when they are not being used to make the bad guys look strong and intimidating. I want to see an actual Soi Fon fight with shunko and shikai along with her various flashstep techniques. Oh, and not fight an enemy that is immune to her shikai power because that fuckin lame. You gave these guys these guys these powers, let them use them.
Making the og 13 squad the new villains would be perfect. Specially with the last two returning. Now I'm way to excited to see if there's more.
While their reiatsu level is made out to be a clear factor, it doesn't have to be the only reason.
Yamamoto and Unohana used to be bloodlusted criminals while being part of the original Gotei 13. After the first blood warfare they decided to lay low but that doesn't cleanse their many sins of the past.
Szayelaporro was terrible as a human. Mayuri in his being as a soul reaper only cleansed his hollow sins.
The mulitated soul king is the soul Society's original sin. Ukitake survived his illness off a piece of the god that the ancestors had killed and mulitated. That makes him a sinner.
This fits well into the narrative because the concept of hell is corruption.
"The mulitated soul king is the soul Society's original sin" i think it should mutilating soul king is soul society's first sin. Because you sound like blaming soul king
@@mauroxxi6380No. What they meant was that Mayuri killed (purified) the hollow Szayel, which only purified Szayel's sins as a hollow, but Szayel as a human (before he became a hollow) was horrible human being. Hollows that were sinners as humans before they became hollows (like murderers or rapists) get sent to Hell (based on their sins as a human) since Shinigamis cannot purify a human's sins, only a hollows sins.
@mauroxxi6380 No, the other dude that got stabbed is he fought him in the past
The Ukitake one seems like a bit of a reach
@@WanderTheNomad even if he himself didn't commit the crime, he benefited from it. That would add that power always comes at a price
Well considering how much of a disappointment the soul king was, the king/queen of hell could be the all powerful being we were expecting. I think this arc is going to take the hell verse movie concepts and basically canonize them, while streamlining and adding new elements.
Now that you mention it, I’m all for a main female villain. I was also expecting the soul king to actually have a major fight after his introduction.
The soul king is reborn as ichigo 's son. All according to his plan.
I wouldn't mind Hellverse becoming canon and added to.
The reason why they do ‘Konso Reisai’ after 12 years of deceased captains is because of Chinese Zodiac years. There are 12 animals in total.
And I wouldn’t be surprised if rulers of hell are 5 noble ancestors that created ‘original sin’. I believe they’re dead millions of years ago but stuck in hell since primordial era. They’re antithesis of ‘God’ (Soul King) that made Soul King sacrifice inside of ‘crystal seal’ in eons. They’re literally ‘King of Hell’ or ‘Satan’.
personally I think the captains have the role of the Kushanada, keeping the sinners down, or that should normally be the case. now that the gates have opened, hell might have been thrown into chaos
It's even more interesting that even though he's coming from hell, the hollow hole being on the outside resembles a halo...
Hell is so weird in the bleach cosmology. It feels like kubo thought it was cool so he added it early on but then did all his world building and forgot about it. Like would hell have been effected at all with the soul kings death? Are their other realms outside the 3 worlds that exist?
I really hope we get more soon!
The possibility that all the captains were holding back at some point gets me excited for the Hell Arc. Due to the possibility of seeing all the captains of Shinigami history going all out.
There are a few characters and series lore I'd love to get much needed expansion:
Chad needs EXTREME love
Current Espadas with secondary resurrections
Rukon district and expansion of Shinigami in other cities or countries
Actual fights and subtle changes in fighting choreography, like boxing, Kido-off
Of course, Squad Zero bankai lol
Kirinji bankai Atlantic ocean with a tsunami😳
I think the concept of Enma acting as a counterpart to the Soul King would be interesting. In addition, I think Kubo set up the original Gotei 13 as perfect villains with the art he published as well as the scenes from the TYBW anime. They were ruthless, bloodthirsty criminals, and two of them (Unohana and Yamamoto) were already named in the Hell Arc chapter.
I want to see coyote stark in hell. That way, maybe we can see how badass he is and how powerful he could be
Imagine if its the Soul King. Ichigo DID kill him and hes supposed to be uber powerful after all.
the thing that I like about hell is that any previous dead character could be there so what if we could meet in some capacity every previous kenpachi either as ally, enemy or any kind of neutral faction
3 Predictions.
1. The main heavy hitters on the enemy side will be the original Gotei 13 + Ukitake
2. Kazui and Ichika will get a training arc in order to contribute in combat against the Sinners.
3. Ichigo will get hell powers because this is Bleach and if you introduce a power system that's supposed to be exclusive to a certain group Ichigo is garunteed to gain access to it
That's a good point about Ichigo. Maybe he would get something akin to his Hell form from the movie where he absorbed the power of the Kushanāda.
God I hate number 3
@@tristanward9937 I used to have this joke about the bount arc with my friends. The reason you know it isn't canon is because if it was Ichigo would've become a Bount half way through
@@tristanward9937I kinda agree with you. Ichigo should already be at the height of his power in this arc and we need to see that in full.
Lol about #3😁...
I would like to see Sasakibe reunited with Yama in hell. Its not mentioned but Sasakibe does have Captain class reaitsu and it only makes sense he would go as well.
I'd imagine 3 of the most powerful soul reapers in history arriving in hell would upended any power structures in place
Could be that being in Hell brings out the worse parts of people, so with Syal its not obvious because even as a Hollow he was ruled by his worse nature aswell, but im imagining people like Yamamoto and Unohana, people who for aslong as they've been in the story have been "Good" but have a real dark side that we know about that they've mostly overcome/supressed but being in Hell has now brought those old dark sides back to the forefront, maybe Ukitake is still relatively "Good" since he was a fairly chill and nice guy in SS with only a minor dark side if he had one at all so could be an Ally in the Hell arc.
Utikate could be a Neutral Party or becomes himself again when he sees Ichika
Nah i think he has a very deep resentement for no having a true life , that makes a Lot of people had some very dark thoughs
I could 100% see the original captains being evil simply because of the way they were described, but honestly I'd say the most likely ones to become evil are the captains who'd forgotten the true meaning of many of the rituals, who believe death would simply return them to the cycle of souls only to find themselves condemned to the very place they've sent countless vile creatures. Especially if the original gotei are fine using hell as their eternal playground (since I doubt death sticks for too long there, it seems like paradise for a group of battle junkies) and don't care how many times the weak fools of the newer generations die
Honestly, a part of me think that by some small chance Ichibe would take the role of antagonist during the hell arc.
I mean considering how Ichigo’s son might be the driving plot point of said arc, Ichibe would notice this and probably enter the world of the living to either kill or make use of him in order to balance out the “natural” order of things. And considering how Ichigo won’t accept this, he’ll likely face him to protect his son. Plus it’ll be cool to see Ichigo vs Ichibe and we’ll probably get to see the full extent of Ichigo’s power and more if the current anime doesn’t do it first.
I want to see this so badly. Ichigo will show no mercy if Ichibei tries to touch his son. It would be sick to see ichigo defeat a royal guard.
Ichi-go vs Ichi-be. The battle of the Ichi. Battle of the one. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Nah I don't see him being a villain, his role along with the Squad 0 is to protect the SK palace and nothing outside that, even after TYBW.
@@Rizingfz08 true but for all we know all the things happening and coming out from hell might reach the soul palace. So in someway they might have to get involved to deal with this threat.
yeah no, Ichibei is curbstomping ichigo. It's been well established that ichibei's ability is pretty much a trump card over all zanpakuto. Unless Kubo wanted to throw in another deus ex machina like with the silver arrow, I don't see Ichibei being a really big villain. Also I think with the quincy gone for good this time, the natural order wouldn't be at risk as it was.
The Hell chapter was so so so much more than we Bleach fans could have hoped for and I very much hope Kubo continues it eventually
We gotta see Gin and Aizen interact one more time . That would be so awesome. I can see Aizen saying ,"Gin you are truly a sneaky little snake to some how still be alive, im impressed"
Gins response would be masterclass😂"Well you did see my potential earlier on than most. To assume that you didn't have any suspicion on me says alot about you more than me."
@Sandy-ti5xb fuk yeah lol 😆 ...we should send both are responses to Kubo
22:14 if Yama, unohana, and ukitake going to hell is the reason the gates could open, then maybe they were also the reason it was closed when they were alive, if they’re strong enough to open it from the inside, then they’re probably strong enough to keep it closed from the outside.
Ikomikidomoe returning with his true name would be interesting. I'm still holding hope for Barragan to return, would be cool if the skull guy on page 71 on the Hell one shot was him.
Yea but like Tommo said, Barragan died by his own hollow powers
@Baweybawey True, but he still had captain level reiatsu. So it would make sense that he had reiatsu too dense to break down for reincarnation as well.
@@Matthew_WebsterOr like CFYOW Tie In create an Artificial Barragan
Would like to see ichibe be dragged to hell, the true mastermind that more than likely orchestrated or laid the path for the majority of the suffering in the story, even more so than the noble families.
I cant help but notice, when Syzel grows his horns, plus the tatoos and a few other things, im reminded very much of Kennys Bankai. Do you think that Kenny could have sone origin or other connection to Hell?
What if the Kenpachi Title is like Bleach's Joyboy eg a Personification of an Ultimate Superior Being
For the Gates of Hell to suddenly open up like that, AFTER Yhwach, Gramps and co. completely erased themselves, for that balance to be tipped in favour of Hell tells me there are brings out there who collectively had Reiatsu or powers on par with the likes of Ichigo, Ichibei, Aizen, Yhwach before his erasure and so on. I feel we're going to get some INSANE new villains of the primordial world.
Imagine if yamamoto, unohana, and ukitake are villains at first then become good guys again (considering the length of their stay in hell) helping ichigo and others fight their co-original gotei 13 captains. Just imagine the massive impact of their battles.
I'm not sure how anyone except maybe Ichigo could stand up to Yamamoto alone, let alone the other two with him. Assuming the Hell Captains are _at least_ as strong as they were in life. Death. Pre-Hell, there we go.
I really hope someone destroys Hell or finds a way to let the Captains out, it’s ridiculous that someone like Ukitake was sent to Hell, he doesn’t deserve such a fate nor Yamamoto
If they're the villains, maybe the OG gotei were waiting for Yamamoto and Unohana, to be complete and make their move. If these two are gonna comply, that's another story, not to mention Ukitake, who's got a better nature/disposition.
Existing dead heroes and villains coming back as allies and enemies feels like a given, but the original Gotei 13 getting a new anime scene AND official colored art feels like the most blatant foreshadowing possible for them being important. They could be the next numbered villain group, with existing characters serving as the "pre-amble" fights, keeping the format of Bleach arcs so far going. Could get a couple of new Hell natives that are either neutral, the true final villain, or the villain before being usurped by someone else (most likely an old captain).
I hope that who's fighting who, and how many big players actually get fights, is mixed up like they were all the way back in the Soul Society arc. Even though that came from a pretty clear intent to keep Soul Society's "villains" alive, it added layers of drama to the story that Bleach hasn't attempted since.
I like the idea that the villains will be the fallen Espada and captains. Maybe someone or something has the power to alter the mind of anyone who is sent to hell, maybe this person or thing could strip away the goodness/ conciousness or amplify the hate and anger within a person's soul turning them into soldiers for this hypothetically being
Based on the movie, appearantly the hell has many layers. Which sounds a lot more colorful than the empty hueco mundo
I’m pretty sure the hierarchy of hell is a giant prison if we take that into context we get
The warden on the top
Executive guards
Guards
Jailers
Torturers
Prisoners
In this order since it makes sense right?
How about time passing differently in hell? Ukitake might have just got there from our perspective, but to him, it's been 200 years or something.
I doubt unohana would be fazed.
You explained clearly the conditions of going to hell and people are still commenting about damn Ulquiorra
I'm so tired of Bleach fanbase being so ignorant...
We will definitely meet the possibility now corrupted powerful members of Gotei 13 alongside those from the past for obvious reasons. That's in addition to the various monstrosities that lurk in hell. This may be the final secret that hurts Soul Society alongside unfortunately others.
We have 5 war potentials... who would you include if you had to name 5 other?
I guess i can reads mind
Thinking back to the Light Novels, one of the ancestors of the Noble Families wanted to use Reio's power to separate the world from Hell. I wonder if "the original sin" will somehow play into this arc. Wouldn't be shocking if it is revealed that the Nobles were manipulated by the then denizens of Hell to commit the ultimate sacrifice against Reio (think the serpent manipulating Adam/Eve) which eternally damned the balance of the worlds.
Because Hell is around, I'm sure the Royal Guard will play into this arc if it ever gets drawn but if the events of WDKALY are true, then I think Ichibe is being investigated for his role in the TYBW? I'm not clear on this...
Also, wasn’t it implied that zanpakuto have souls? Could we potentially see a return of some of the zanpakuto spirit designs if they have also been cast down to hell along with their wielders
I’d love to see Yamamoto being a villain
I'd be very surprised if Yamato and Unohana went evil they have been chilled out for a 1000 years but bets are off for any other Captain
While the OG Gotei would be great to see, i'd rather Kubo introduce a brand new organization/faction of main Villains for Hell, led by a new big bad (The Warden of Hell maybe), and the OG Gotei could be the secondary faction.
The Espadas are great and all, but using them as main villains allover again after being the villains for 60% of the series would be kinda "Eh"
Or have an Unified Group
Maybe the outcast former noble family?!?… wasn’t their ancestor known for doing hell stuff?
Another solid Bleach video! This channel has been amazing to not need to read or watch everything again while the new tybw episodes are released.
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Who wants to see Barragan back?
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Hell yeah
Eh , not sure about that one
I imagine Hell being lless like its own "world", like SS, HUeco Mundo and the world of the living, and more like a very remote and autonumous branch of the Soul Society. Their relationship to the 13 guard squads are maybe similar to that of 0-division, or the people who run the Muken prison.
Then it would also make sense that the captains are sendt to hell to be the jailors. So Ukitake is basically raining in his prisoner when he skewers Szayl.
Also would be cool Shrieker returned as like a "rank and file" inhabitant of Hell. And then we get like a rude awakening by finding out that even he is really powerful and stuff
The og captains are definitely the best and obvious candidates to be villains in the hell arc. I mean there has to be actual reason why Kubo gave them actual character design and not just silhouettes after all this years. Plus it be a great way to flesh them out as characters
It begs the question. "If the OG captains where so strong wtf could kill them in the first place?".
We've heard nothing of a calamity so crazy it killed more than half a dozen captains.
@@Babylauncher3000 They don't need to have all died at the same time tho. They could've just died of old age or aged enough so that they couldn't perform as well and either retired or were killed one by one rather than all at once. Yes they were powerful but as far as we know none of them were as strong as Yama and Unohana. Shunsui and Ukitake are the first generation of shinigami after the formation of the original gotei and they're hella strong so who knows what kind of little monsters came out of their generation.
@@gabrieldossantos1116 Of Old Age? In only a thousand years? Absolutely adorable.
@@Babylauncher3000 Bruh old age was just one of the things I said and it was just an example lol. We don't have any idea of how old they were before the thousand years so idk why you found that so weird.
@@gabrieldossantos1116 Yeah i just don’t know why you mentioned it. We know Shinigami generally physically age 1 year every 10 human years but that to slows over time. Yamamoto was visibly twice the age of most of the original Captains and was still around 1000 years later. Unohana only visibly aged 20-25 years in over 1000 as well.
I bet they get their minds wiped in hell and become hells guardians. which makes them even more dangerous.
The Hell Chapter was an all in one special. It was a slice of life chapter, it was like a movie where it introduced a "new" villain who is defeated in the same story, and it was the beginning of a potentially larger plot. When people speculated what the chapter would be, Kubo chose "all of the above".
Surely there will be some explanation to write off potentially dozens of no-name captains in Hell. The Sternritter were already criticized for too many villains and we already have espada, demons, and the original 13 as potential options. Although, it could be cool to have a sort of civil war in Hell, where some captains have held onto their sanity while others have become demons.
Or maybe have where the Factions fight for Control like the Original Gotei vs Arrancar vs the Demonic Forces
I hope Kenpachi himself has to fight all the previous Kenpachi and simultaneously have the story show us all of them and give us the timeline.
I also hope the original noble family heads are prominent if not part of the villains and heroes themselves.
As for order in Hell, if I remember right, it was the last unnamed family of the five clans who originally suggested capping off the primordial chaos left from splitting the worlds and that would become Hell. So it is sort of primordial like you said, which makes sense as Hell doesn't seem that much like it's part of the natural cycle as first stated, and more where the unnatural and undesired are cast *out* of the natural cycle by being sent to Hell. But more importantly that clan could end up being the ones in charge of Hell themselves if that stays true from the novel which could be really cool. A single clan policing hell and why we've never seen a hint of them until now, and as Shinigami that'd be why they might employ other Shinigami like Ukitake to help when needed.
Me? Had an idea for a Hell Arc years ago.
Called them ‘Sinners’.
My version of Hell was more lawful, with Authority and Contracts prevailing throughout.
can't wait to see the random retcon to make ichigo part devil too
While the denizens of Hell will probably be the main antagonists, I also think Urahara and Ichibei will end up as near-final boss villains as the events of the arc cause a deeper and deeper reckoning with Soul Society's dark past.
Why Urahara?
@@jaded_dreiko4225 Urahara is fundamentally a man of the status quo, so if it is sufficiently challenged, he will ruthlessly defend it.
In the Hell Verse movie, its stated that while Shinigami monitor and guard the gates from the outside, the dont have jurisdiction inside, and there are close to no records of the details inside. So its 100% believable that no one actually knew about this sooner.
This could be such a good arc. I dont see people like Unohana being a villain given how Kubo ended her story. Id love to see Ukitake be their guide through hell. A want the new faction to be demons because Kubo would have S tier designs. Maybe the original Gotei could be in a war against Hell to keep them from escaping? Or if they are also villains, id be okay with that. I just want to see them because their designs feel wasted on a slight flashback
Maybe demons are the real antagonists and the captains and espadas are lackeys? I’m hoping the demon’s are named in French. Tite Kubo said he wished to work with the French language.
Could also be the soul king going evil, assuming he ended up in hell given his insane reiatsu. Alternatively, could be the older Gotei who have a vendetta, as you had somewhat touched on, now that Yama himself is in hell. Like maybe they were afraid of Yama’s power and now that he’s dead, they want back. Idk, just shooting ideas.
I absolutely adore the idea of the original 13 captains being demon lords of Hell
I commented on your “Chad” video like two years ago. About him and his family being the hidden family and they rule over hell. That’s where he is going to shine an help explains why he’s such good friends with ichigo. Did a whole paragraph about it.
Obviously it will be rejuvenated younger Commander Yamamoto leading all the dead Shinigami and Espada.
If that’s true then the gotei are fucked 🤣🤣🤣🤣 this version of yamamoto would be far more powerful than when he was alive.
@@gammafrostat this point in the story ichigo should be able to solo hell.
So the villains will all need a huuuuge hell boost
I think we’ll get 5 parts to the hell arc if it ever came first is Arrancar then quincies then fullbringers and then shinigami then the final part would be the king of hell will fuse all of races to their counterparts like stark yhwach ginjo and yama and make some op characters which would make all races work together to win and even squad zero could work with urahara to give them one time use bankais that wont destroy the 3 realms so we see oetsu tenjiro and hikifune and maybe senjumaru could get a new bankai like her soldiers a form like that which would use her arms and her swords with other abilities to play a mind game vs Szayelaporro jugram tsukishima and gin a fight of pure intelligence and evolution counter and counter and slowly build up a attack that will eventually destroy where they are fighting and each other almost completely but senjumaru would come out alive and end him there and then if I had to chose his fight
Tommo, I am so hurt. How could you ever say Ulqiorra could not be in hell because he was obliterated by a cero and not a zanpakuto?
How could you ever forget?
The sword is me. Ichigo's hollow power is his soul reaper power and by extension he was killed by an extension of Zangetsu.
Haha I hope it gets you thinking! Love the new video I can't believe it's been 2 years and this still isn't out. I blame the garbage bleach brave souls. It has made Kubo a millionaire and allowed him to lay about and be lazy and Rich.
But we still love him no
I hope Master Tite Kubo is in perfect physical health and his physical problems will not cause this unique arc to be limited to just this one chapter or cause us to not meet popular characters like Gin Ichimaru or Aizen sama again.
it would be fun to have Kazui be an enemy of sorts.
the kid has a ton of potential and I am guessing his zanpakuto are koi fish.
we can already guess from how he acts towards the koi fish in his dreams so he could end up being a very freaky character to fight.
he also destroyed what was left of Yhwach.
About the Espadas I kinda want to see Stark but also something relatively surprising as I want some Fraccions to actually get "promoted" to stronger villains.
That would be personnaly a very pleasant surprise if we have a built that leads to someone like Nnoitra or Szayel act as a huge personnality in hell but ultimately we get a surprise that someone like Ylford, Shawlong or Findorr got their potentials as Arrancars explode when they went to Hell (like how Grimmjow's Fraccions couldn't evolve further as Arrancars but going to Hell and then becoming something different than an Arrancar took away their limitations).
I think it's either going to be a passing on the torch kind of arc or a new lesson that ichigo must learn that has kazui as the center
If Hell really is primordial, I think it might have served as a prison even then (potentially for enemies of the Noble Clans, or at least the ancestors from that time) so it would be interesting to have both the Espada and the Captains as foot soldiers to whatever primordial beings have been stuck in Hell since before the cycle was ever formed. This allows further discovery of both Soul Society's history, as well as the history of the primordial world outside of the original sin. There's also the theory that the unnamed noble family resides in Hell as well, or at least is heavily involved in it that could be explored. Also, if captains sent to hell can resist corruption, it would be cool to see Gin show up to potentially help Ichigo and co.
I’ve got a crazy theory and if it’s true kubo is the best at foreshadowing: Kubo said on klub outside Rukia has a SECRET RACE, now why was Ichika the only one to notice the hell creatures who seemingly have no reiatsu maybe BECAUSE SHES LINKED TO HELL meaning that Rukia’s extra race is HELL CREATURE 🤯
That could be interesting. Kubo's most definitely not the best at foreshadowing but that's a cool theory
Urahara secret villan haha has been my conspiracy theory from the beginning. However, hes my favorite character.
*Theory: Everyone is dragged in hell and Kazui opens a portal straight in Muken freeing Aizen completely!*
That would be insane‼️
would be sick if Grand Fisher is in hell and is using the form of Ichigo's mother to trick Ichigo's son. then at some point we learn Masaki's soul was actually sent to hell along with Grand Fisher and a sub plot could be Ichigo's goal of freeing his mother's soul so that she can go to the soul society and we finally get the Ichigo vs Grand Fisher rematch we've been waiting for.