Wifi SD Card For Your 3D Printer - Chris's Basement
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- We check out a Wifi enabled SD card and how it will work on a 3D printer.
00:00 Intro
00:41 Wi-Fi SD Card
01:18 Firmware Config
11:29 Conclusion
Card I used:
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Fantastic Job Chris, WAY better then I did.. :-) So glad you're putting that card to use. Did you try to get the other one working?
PS: A note about using these cards in 3D Printers. If you find the card will not communicate or intermittently communicate, you may need to make sure the Printers firmware does not shut power down to the sd card slot when Idle.
Thanks again RJ! I haven't tried it yet, but I plan to for sure. That makes a lot of since now that I think about it. @ironjoe13
had mentioned there is a flashair card option on the Prusa. It just never clicked before. It's all about learning! :)
@@ChrisRiley I've had a go with one of these card but it was the more limiting W-02 version (The inability to create the windows shares is frustrating).
However, I also had problems with Repetier not powering the card correctly and so it would not work at all with my discount controller and RAMPS1.4 combo.
I found *this* info:
www.rc-cam.com/forum/index.php?/topic/4058-marlin-reprap-with-toshiba-flashair-wifi-firmware-patch/
which describes changes to Marlin to get it to work. I don't know if this has been implemented as default on the latest versions of Marlin but I did think to try it on Repetier (I've yet to find time to do that)
Awesome! thanks for the link. This is definitely info others should check out if they are going to try and use one of these.
Love the channel Chris! Always posting relavent up to date content.
Thanks Benjamin!
You always have interesting subjects on your channel. I looked into these SD cards several years ago to put in my DaVinci 1.0. After reading about all the steps required I just decided to load/unload the SD manually LOL. Nice step by step though for those that want to use one. One editing suggestion. Zoom in when typing, it’s hard to see on an iPhone screen.
Thanks Chuck! Noted, I have to learn how to do the zooming faster in my software.
Waou, never heard of it, ordered one immediately after watching your video.
Super info
Thanks
Great! Let us know how it works for you.
Great video chris, these are a great idea thanks for sharing
Thanks Scalda!
I must say this was very interesting, Thanks Chris and RJ_Make for all the Info !!!
Thanks Ron!
Thanks for the informative video
Had some problems, since it works only 2 months and then suddenly not more.
Now it works again.
Great! Glad it's working again!
Thanks for sharing Chris. Might not use this for 3d printing as I already have octoprint but I can see where it might come in handy for other projects.
You bet! They are kind of cool.
Great content, as always.
Thanks Thomas!
Hello Chris, Great video! I had seen one of these and thought about trying it for my Anet A8!
For the cost... it went the Pi/Octoprint route!!
Thanks! Agreed, they seem a little pricey to me for what they do.
Just another great video from Thee Chris Riley. Packed with lots of information, explain very well. I dont know how you do it, but please keep up all this great content. Did I mention I liked this video? I knew about the SD WiFi cards, but never thought of using them with a printer. Thank you!
Thanks John as always! I don't know where I have been, I really have never seen these before. Kinda cool.
@@ChrisRiley I saw them for cameras, sending data back to a computer or wireless hard drive.
If I ever get a super awesome camera I will use this method for sure.
Cheers Chris another cracking vid! this has literally saved me so much time! Cheers pint owed.....
Awesome! Thanks for watching!
Another interesting guide Chris
Thanks Spike!
This is awesome, thanks so much. Hopefully this will allow me to send files to my Elegoo Mars. No more walking back and forth a million times!
Hope it helps.
Thanks for sharing😀👍
Interesting possibility👍😀
I love my octoprint thou 😀
Same here, got to have my octoprint! :)
This is awesome....!!! Thanks bro...
You're welcome!
I just start thinking about the possibility , online search bam you already done it. save my time. thanks bro.
Sweet! Yeah, these are kinda cool, but they have there downsides. Octoprint is still my go to.
never knew those existed that's pretty cool
Same here, kinda cool.
Nice tutorial. Often times folks will consider printing from the on-board SD card as more reliable than dealing with the GCODE transmission over serial/USB from OctoPrint. Having the WiFiSD card definitely gets you out of the SD card shuffle, but when OctoPrint serial communication is reliable, the extra features from OctoPrint push me to use that every time.
Great point John, there is a lot of back and fourth about octoprint vs SD. This might kind of fill the gap as a compromise.
definitely usefull information, thank you.
Thank you
Nice one Chris!
Thanks!
Really like you teaching. I always learn alot for a 69 year old newby
Awesome Larry! Glad it helps you out.
Hello and thanks for the video. Great.
Hey James! Thank you!
It's best to define a DHCP area in your router to push your DHCP devices into a block. Got example I set my range from 192.168.1.10 - 192.168.1.100, then I use 1-10 for network devices like routers and access points and 101-255 is for blocks of fixed ip devices in groups so it's easy to find later like my octoprints are all in the 192.168.1.150-160 range, ip cameras are all in the 200+ range etc. That way I can just assign it a IP in the block for the type of device and never worry about it
I try to show the networking stuff a couple of different ways. None of them probably meet best practice by far. I am really just banking on the user not having a very big network most of the time. :) What your explaining makes total since and probably much safer. I could probably do 5+ videos on just this stuff. :) Thanks for the tips.
Very interesting I had no idea those cards existed, but anyway heres an 'old timers' tip which may be useful for those instances where its not either possible or desired to install a network scanner or indeed java I prefer to find out whats on a network 'old school fashion' by typing in a small single line looping bit of code from the command line, as I can usually get this done quicker than downloading a canned tool, this is easier in linux but can also be done from a windows command prompt (not powershell) with admin permissions, in such a case I do an 'ipconfig' to see the network address & subnet mask in order to define the limits of a loop, (omitting the network and broadcast addresses and also the default gateway if its at the exact beginning or end of the address range too) then I just run it from the command line followed by an arp table lookup, for a simple example, if the network address is say 192.168.1.0 and the subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 I would use something like this: 'for /l %t in (1,1,254) do ping -n 1 -w 50 192.168.1.%t' then after its finished type in 'arp -a' at the command line to have a list of all connected hosts on that subnet, this technique will work for subnets or subnetted address ranges of 254 hosts or less -
Thanks Andy! This is a great tip! I will for sure put this to good use.
Interesting, thanks Chris :)
Thanks!
Awesome, just bought one! LOL Thanks for the video Chris
Nice! Let us know how it goes.
@@ChrisRiley Well, the card works as it should , I can save the gcode to the card directly from Simplify3D. BUT, just like the issue you had, WiFi works, but the Ardunio wont read the card. (says card inserted) So, not sure where to go from here... Its a 64gb Flashair W-04. Updated to the newest firmware.
@@Mogalize Do you have access to your firmware config? Is it Marlin?
@@ChrisRiley Yes I have access to the firmware, it's Marlin 1.1.9. I just saw Steve's post and I'm now trying to edit the firmware. It already has some FlashAir code, but its not the same as whats posted in the link. (getting compile errors)
@@Mogalize Any luck? I still haven't gone back to test this yet.
Great content as usual Chris! couple of issues using an IP scanner to find the address. You do not want to use any IP that is in your Routers DHCP range because it can lead to IP conflicts. Also opening up a cmd prompt on your PC and using ipconfig /all will tell you want your IP range is since it's commonly either 192.168.1.x or 192.168.0.x but there's other ranges used on some routers as well, just looking at your gateway address will let you know what your current range is easier.
Generally speaking for this kind of thing, and for most users who aren't well versed in networking basics, it's much easier to just define a DHCP reservation which would be a lot easier overall for people.
keep up the great work!
Thanks! Great tips! I try to show this a bunch of different ways, none really meet network best practices. DHCP reservation is always the easiest for me.
@@ChrisRiley DHCP reservation is the best way. Because you manage all your IPs one place, and avoid IP conflicts. But the setup is different from router to router. In this case, you could have skipped assigning a fixed IP, by adding flashaircard as your drive, instead of 192.168.1.40.
@@PerMejdal I totally agree. As you know a lot of routers don't have it, so I am trying to offer options.
I have been trying this a year ago with Eye-Fi cards (these are available in the Netherlands) but that didn't work well.
The problem was that on the printers I used, the power on the SD card was not constantly on. Therefore, the network was very unstable. The used printer was the Anycubic I3 Mega.
Hey Brian! Interesting, I thought they were pretty neat so I wanted to give them a try. I might be able to find other uses for them like camera or audio as well.
Awesome video. It's 2021 already and I just had the same idea of trying to use one of these Wifi SD cards on my Creality Ender v2, I searched TH-cam to see if it had been done already and voila, your video popped up. Unfortunately, it looks like the Toshiba Flashair SD card is no longer available or it's selling on Ebay for $100+. There are other brands like ez Share available on Amazon, but it's doubtful that they would have the WebDAV compatibility that allows you to map a drive to them in Windows. I would love to see a new video to revisit this topic. Keep the great videos coming!
Also, the link Matt's Wifi SD Card article has changed to mattshub.com/blogs/blog/flashair-sd-card?_pos=1&_sid=035a7b9a9&_ss=r
I noticed that these cards were really hard to get now. I will have to look around and see if I can find something that is equivalent that works.
You are a legend.
Ha! Thanks Matt!
for me the main benefit over octoprint would be the ability to run the printer stand alone once the file was transferred. If i could also control my ender 2 with repetier host with through card that would be fantastic :)
That would be cool, also it would enable power off resume on some machines where octoprint wouldn't.
Great info...
Thanks!
A WiFi SD-Card would be quite convenient on deltas when Octoprint might mess with the print due to USB port latencies, or just a workaround for worn SD slot lock or contacts.
Not a bad idea.
Great Video, Yeah, I used a Flashair 3 or 4 years ago... Then jumped to octoprint. I wonder where my card is now? LOL...
Thanks Mike! Yeah, lol, they were just to cool not to give a try.
Hi Chris. Great video again. Did you ever resolve the speed issue with some of the printers? My geeetech i3 pro b with marlin ( stock ) 1.1.9 causes the WiFi cars to go so slow it looses connection all the time, yet the SD part is fine.
Turned out some of them power the SD card down when not is use. You can adjust it on the LCD or in the firmware. The speed is just kind slow, but usable.
Neat..still trying to get SP01 ESP8266 on my Trigorilla, nwed to setup as serial 4, but Marlin doesn't have it coded..
Really neat video!!!
Thanks Brain!
Great Video Chris, I tried to use something similar with a BIGTREETECH SD Cloud V1.0, but I have been facing problems such as printer crashes and printing errors, as if the device was having trouble reading the SD card continuously, so this model is form presented in the video may be the other alternative I'm looking for, Thank you!
Thank you! I guess these cards have become very rare and expensive. I'm not sure what the newer alternative might be.
You could even apply this technique to retro computers, sure they'd have to be able to understand modern-ish file systems, but it may work... hmm may have to try this method myself with my classic Macintosh :) great video
Thanks! That could be an interesting project.
Nice video. Very informative. I may need one. I use OctoPrint, but printing is slower when it is uploaded locally ( on my RPi 2B ) vs being on as SD card. Transferring to SD card via OctoPrint is painfully slow. Looks like this may improve speed of my prints.
Hey Mark! Yes, it is for sure faster then transferring to SD via octoprint, but still kinda slow.
That really cool
Thanks Paul!
I never heard about wifi sd card. But it's so simple. Will try out that for my ender 3. Do you test the maximum distance to the router? Your channel come up to one of the best 3d information channel.
Hey Marcus, thanks! I didn't, I tested it about 30 feet from the router.
Did this work with the Ender 3? :D
🎉 wow ! This is what i wanted
Glad I could help!
Sounds great my only problem is sharing items in Windows 10 they have made it so confusing to share folders. Kind of got it working but wondering if I go this route(in your video) can't help wondering if Windows 10 will cause problems when I try and share.
The card is no longer available on Amazon.
These cards just work ok, you're right, the win 10 sharing is kinda flaky.
Good video! There was a slight audio sync issue towards the end that nobody will notice until they read this comment haha
Thanks! LOL, Yeah, I am going to work on fixing that this weekend.
I used it with my palette 1 -- octoprint for the printer, but don't feel like doing the SD card shuffle to copy the splice file to the palette. May start using it on my Moai, but gCode files there tend to be really big.
Nice! Great idea on the Palette.
Hi Chris,
Many thanks for making this, I had never heard of the WiFi SD cards before, what a cool idea...
If you have one of these cards in your printer, could you use it to connect to Octoprint and control the printer, or is it just for transferring files...
Excellent video yet again Sir, thank you...
All the very Best...
John...
I had no idea these existed either. These would be just for files. You could use them both together if you want, but there really wouldn't be any point if you have octoprint already.
@@ChrisRiley I am looking at something like this cause for my printer the USB bandwidth bottleneck is too much if I print too fast :/
@@chloemcholoe3280 Yeah, these seem to work ok, but still not the best fix. I have heard some of the newer versions of this card don't work at all.
Great video I have a ez share sd card wifi adapter could I use the same firmware that you did? Thanks
I am not sure yet, I have one of those. I will test it.
That's a pretty slick addition to any printer. Too bad I have a uSD on mine.
Yeah, there a little to pricey anyway, for the most part I will stick with octoprint.
@@ChrisRiley Is it possible to change a micro SD to regular SD? Do you have a video on that already? I don't really want to try the WIFI card but just want to use the bigger card.
A bigger card with wifi? They have these, but I haven't tried them yet. You use your own mini card. Not sure they have all the same features. www.amazon.com/Share-Wifi-Memory-Adapter-available/dp/B00H4A6TGI/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8&qid=1547150453&sr=8-17&keywords=flashair+card
Can I just upload my gcode to the card wirelessly and use printer as I would normally using a standard Sd card. then If wireless switches off it shouldn't matter?
Correct, it should allow you to work that way.
Great video. By the way, not just this one, but all of your videos are great. Just a little tip, there are many good and "no installation" softwares from a company named Nirsoft. You should take a look.
Thanks! I think I have seen there stuff before. I will check it out.
@Chris Riley Coming from a Formlabs Form² 3D Printer with built-in WiFi I was quick to notice the drag that is, on a Prusa i3 MK3S, getting off the PC just to fetch the SD-Card, head back to PC to transfer file to SD-Card, and then heading back to 3D Printer to load and print it so this tutorial was a blessing.
Question though... For like half an hour I was scratching my head why the fuck I'm able to see the SD-Cards contents in Windows 10 and wirelessly upload a file but the file would then not appear on the 3D Printer BUT would do so when returning on the PC and checking there - By accident I would find out that once wirelessly uploaded to the WiFi Card already installed on the Prusa I'd have to unplug and reinsert it before the Printer would notice a change in the SD-Card - Not the end of the World but it's kinda bothering me xD
I already changed the Printers SD-Card Settings to [flashAir], mentioned in the conversation with @RJ_Make, though I have no idea what it does and it doesn't help with this "issue".
I get a lot of questions on these cards. I don't really remember having to reload it, but that might be the case. I have been meaning to test this card again. I will give it a try and see what I come up with.
wouldn't it be a faster method for printing through octoprint from SD? In my case, i'm always getting connection errors when printing larger files on octoprint - but the octoprint "print from sd" funktion is not for me, because it takes hours for putting files through octoprint to to the SD - would that be a workarount to use one of these?
Yeah, that't the problem with octoprint and transferring to SD. It's really slow. With this wifi SD card, you could transfer you gcode over via the wifi card, but still see them and control everything from Octoprint.
my camera do not have WiFi.. will this SD card work for video as well? What I want to do is use it as WiFi to connect to an app as external monitor for my iPhone.
Yeah, the wifi card should work in your camera.
Hey Chris, I had a question... I have a Prusa MK3s with an MMU2s, and the SD card is broken and no longer works. I bought a new SD card, a 64 gb Sandisk, and I need help formatting it. I am on Mac, and whenever I plug it in to my Prusa, if gives me a line of o's and just shows me a back arrow and then says there is no SD card installed. I have read/write lock off, I just need to know how to format it to get the printer to read the files on it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Hey Dave, it needs to be formatted fat32, but it might be too big. You might try creating a partition on it, like a 16gb one. Sorry, I know nothing about MAC.
Hey Chris, thanks so much! I appreciate the advice. Thanks!
I am trying to find an SD card for my epson xp-312 printer but i cant find any do you have any recommendations.
No clue about paper printers.
Does this work with the W-04? I can't find any reasonably priced W-03 models.
Yes, it should work fine and faster.
@@ChrisRiley Thanks.
Can you help me with a different type of wifi sd card ? a wifi adapter sd card ? wifi@sdcf card adapter ? i try all and no luck.. i even try an emulator for apk file and not working on pc... thank you very much.
I have never seen one of those, do you have a link to it?
Hello Chris. Can I use this wifi SDCard to send data to my Android device directly? For example, I have Garmin GPS and my wifi SDCard is inside the Garmin device. Garmin stores the location data into the wireless SDCard. I want to connect this wifi SDCard via my own code and grab the data from the SDCard wirelessly to my Android phone.
As long as you can figure out how to mount it as a filesystem, I don't see why not.
@@ChrisRiley thank you
Great video. I had an issue though. I did it just as shown and it all works except the files never end up on the disk. The y say they are uploading and even complete but there are not files. If I move them manually like a typical drive no issues.
Hmmm, not sure what is going on here. Maybe a network timeout. Can you check how strong your signal is for the card on your router?
@@ChrisRiley signal strength is good , o double checked all the settings. Card is easily connected via ip address or flashair in the web browser. At first I thought it might have been chrome and an incognito mode issuebut that really didn't seem to affect anything I tried both ways and even opened Microsoft edge if you can believe it! Sometimes if you drag the files over it actually does save it to the card but it's not visible until you unload the car and reloaded which kind of defeats the whole purpose. Firmware up to date on the card as well. I'll keep messing around with it, even did the same thing as a mapped drive but dragging straight from the computer is no issues
@@ChrisRiley this set up actually works , however in order to see the files you still have to remove the card and reinsert it. Maybe this is just while on the pc? Gonna give it a shot while in the printer. github.com/emard/FlashAir-FileManager
Well the upload works fine while in the printer; but the printer doesn't see the files. I wonder if the issue is the 64GB? The Prusa and my Palette 2 both do not see the card.
lol: third update- formatted the card to Fat32, the Palette can read the card but the Prusa still can't at 64gb (I assume that is to much for the old Mk2) Upload works fine with the files I linked above, however for the Palette to actually see the files you have to turn the unit off and back on. Maybe this is as good as it will get but seems like there would be an alternative? Any idea what might cause that?
Config Info:
ID=FLASHAIR
APPNAME=flashaircard
APPSSID=Kraken3DS
APPNETWORKKEY=**********
APPAUTOTIME=0
APPMODE=5
UPDIR=/
UPLOAD=1
WEBDAV=2
[Vendor]
MASTERCODE=c86000cae425
LOCK=1
VERSION=F15DBW3BW4.00.04
Not sure, but I will test my Prusa with a 64gb just to see what it does.
cool!
Thanks Thomas!
This is some of the best instructions I have seen in awhile. However, I do have one question, why don't you just reserve an IP in the DHCP pool? This IP scanner seems a bit sus (JKJK =p)
Thanks! Yeah, I was just try to give the most info I could. ;)
Genius
Thanks!
The card You linked isnt in Stock. Do You have solutions?
I looked around, I am not sure if they are still making these, everything I see is super expensive.
Thanks how can i autostart on my printer? (marlin 2.0)
I think it should auto start on it's own.
Please make a review about lerge-x board please...
If I ever run into one, I sure will.
And all the makers say it's pretty fly for a wifi!
Ha! That ones pretty good, that probably took a minute.
I thought it was common knowledge of the FlashAir capabilities.... especially since the Prusa's have it in the menu...
Honestly, it was news to me, I never really thought about it.
Great guide but what is the point of the wifi sd-card if you still have to go to the printer to start the print?
Don't have to mount and un-mount the card? Just thought it was cool, so I tested it. Haven't used it since.
@@ChrisRiley interesting.. I was giving the card a little more thought, could this wifi sd-card work with an esp8266 module to fix the slow upload times?
@@Bajicoy Good question, I have a wifi config coming up shortly, I will have to try that out.
@@ChrisRiley Thanks! It's amazing how responsive you are, I really appreciate that
@@Bajicoy I try to get to everyone. :)
support upload "Sub folder" ?
I'm not sure, I would have to test it.
Do you know how to reset the wifi card if I forgot the password?
It's been so long I can't remember how all of the configuration on these works.
What is that propeller on your hot end fan?
LOL, You like that? Those are indicators for the extruder. It helps you see when the printer is retracting or when it may be skipping, they are handy to have.
Sweet! Where can I get one and how does it work?
There are a ton of them on thingiverse, you just glue them on some magnets and stick it on the motor shaft. www.thingiverse.com/thing:2638857
@@ChrisRiley Oooh! It attaches to your extruder. I thought that was your hot end fan. I could not figure out how that would work. Thanks.
Hey there
I accidentally formatted my sd card using camera
And now the wifi is not visible please help
I'm not sure if those have a file system on them or not, I can check.
@@ChrisRileythank you
I checked mine, it's broken like your, this is the software that will rebuild it for you. apac.kioxia.com/en-apac/personal/software/flashair-configuration.html
My card is w-03 can it be fixed?
Can i know whether u fixed ur card too
Edit: i found the software compatible for w-03 but when i try to reconfigure it am getting the same error saying an error has occured
I always have security concerns with things like this on my network.
You can never be to careful, that is for sure.
Mad's files don't work. Have you a solution?
Mad files? I am not sure what that is.
@@ChrisRiley After refreshing the web browser, it doesn't work like in your video from 6:08
@@techvsdeep I'll have to try it again.
👍
Thanks for pointing these out for me.
Are there any good cards that ARE NOT toshiba?
Not that I have seen, but haven't looked around much yet.
why i can't go to flashaircard even i follow your step? using W-04 flashair Tool
FlashAir™ W04 latest wifi sd card doesn't work, please help
What are you trying to do? You just can't get to your Wifi card from your computer?
@@ChrisRiley yes ,i updated FW and then modify the file CONFIG ,but can't get to flashaircard from my PC. i get another one FlashAir W03 then try today and can't get also. please help
it shows can't find the "flashaircard" server IP address
You are going to have to find the IP address of that card. You can find it in your routers DHCP table. Also, it might be a DNS issue, try install bonjour on your PC to help resolve the address.
Actually, no I haven't thought about that. Octoprint is way better anyway :)
Octoprint is awesome.
Wifi SD Card! what next? WiFi CPU?
Wifi CPU? Yes, please.
Just FYI: Your video is lagging slightly behind the audio.
This new PC has been driving me nuts with stuff like this. Friday i will be switching to a new audio recorder, so hopefully that will up my game.
@@ChrisRiley Or it is TH-cam there is quashing the sound...
I think it is something with Win10. I will be testing it this weekend.
@@ChrisRiley If Glenn had the same issue, it would be no problem as no one watches his bald head. ;)
Great , but:
* there is something similar if You want make it alone - DIY kit www.thingiverse.com/thing:2856796
* for network scan I prefere Advanced IP Scanner it is much simpliest
Very nice!
Fist I have heard of them.
Thanks, glad a wasn't the only one. :)
Never remotely reliably with Mac after spending hours - not recommended. Octoprint is easier and super reliable.
Totally agree, octoprint is better.