Gaming On The Cheapest All-In-One PC From Best Buy...
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I bought the system your granny would buy and tried gaming on it.
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sometimes, i dig a hole in my backyard, jump in the hole, bury myself and pretend that i'm a radish.
That's pretty cool
Negawatt
I just lay in the dirt and pretend I'm a zucchini.
Don't we all?
You do you , weirdo
The performance improvement was NOT from the memory upgrade, it was from destroying the pixels so it now has to render fewer of them, obviously.
It just destroyed a few pixels though so... You're wrong, sorry mate
@@internet_userr r/whooosh
FSR = F***ing Smash the Resolution!
@@IcebergTech Dude, you're gonna become big one day. The high quality takes are pretty awesome.
@@IcebergTech FSR = Fancy Seeing you heRe.
I tried.
I cannot stress how funny it is that my friend who is basically "computer illiterate" has that exact same granny mouse pad and she's only 35. I sent this to her immediately.
How's it even possible that someone from '87 or '88 is digitally illiterate? I am 37 and was already born with a mouse and keyboard waiting for me right outside. Almost literally, given that my father bought an IBM XT clone just weeks after I was born...
@@classicallpvault8251not everyone grows up with tech I guess
@classicallpvault8251 You'd be surprised. I was born in 80, and I've had to help kids in their early 20's reset their password for Gmail because they couldn't figure it out.
I'm the family computer technician and I have a not to dissimilar Logitech combo. I game on it all the time cause I don't want to spend a buck more than absolutely necessary.
@@classicallpvault8251Hey I was born in 88 and was a console peasant until I was like 26 😅😂
The fact that the CPU bottlenecks the iGPU is absolutely hilarious!
I know right. Not even the Added RAM can save that
Single channel actually. CPU is not doing much except pulling data to and from single channel RAM. When he upgraded the RAM it became obvious, almost double the FPS.
@@aleksazunjic9672You did see the CPU performance meter pegged at 100% ? And what do you think the CPU is calculating to send to the GPU? That would be all those complicated 3D world calculations plus all the game logic, plus all the other basic system functions. The CPU does a lot more than just shovel data to the GPU.
@@another3997 Nope. If that was the case Dawid would not be able to almost double FPS with another stick of RAM. What was really happening is moving the data trough narrow single channel.
That’s always my favourite bottleneck. 😂
That mousepad really ties the room together
Came here to comment this exact thing lol
DAWID! YOU’RE OUT OF YOUR ELEMENT!
Take it easy dude, I know you will.
I didn't see my buddies face down in the mud for people to be gaming on a Pentium!
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
13:13 That might not be damage, actually. I opened up one of these exact models to upgrade the SSD and I had the same thing on the edges of my display. It turned out to be not damage and just some foamy thing that gets lodged under the LCD panel when you disassemble one of these things. You can try and remove the gunk from under the display, which is how I got rid of it.
Interesting.
@@masiosareanivdelarev562your life Is interesting
You just want Dawid to spend 5 more hours breaking into that thing, don't you.
@@chinkasuyaro8983 We are a sadistic lot.
that mousepad is truly something
Agreed, and 2nd-ed
There are also giant versions of those.
@@AmartharDrakestoneYeah there's one on my floor 😂
Feels like David brought the mousepad first and then created a video around it as an excuse to use it.
its unironically pretty nice, id like to have one
Honestly, if granny buys this kind of thing for home use, I wouldn't even be mad. It seems like a decent deal for what a granny would do with a PC like video calls, mailing, watching knitting tutorials... It's not a gaming machine, obviously, but it's honestly not bad and not badly priced for what it actually is and tries to be.
@@lurch789How is this a hot mess? It's perfect for it's intended use case
I still have my old Core 2 rig here, that can also do all these things and is better on gaming on top.
I don't have the Pentium in that PC so I don't know exactly how it performs, but I had a PC with an AMD A6-9500 which exhibits the same GTA5 road-unloading issues, and it could barely play 1080p TH-cam videos or scroll Twitter/Reddit without serious stutters
@@HappyBeezerStudiosIs your C2D "rig" an all in one? Does it just have integrated graphics? Was it a bargain basement, office machine at the time you bought it? I suspect the answers are all "No". Comparing an old, expensive tower PC with discrete GPU to one of these is hardly fair. And your C2D isn't in warranty any more... which is a actually important for some customers. Horses for courses?
@@lurch789bet it's not anywhere near the price this one was especially factoring in inflation
When you somehow managed to separate the LCD panel itself from the backlight/diffuser assembly, I was like "oh no, this thing is bricked". I'm shocked you managed to get out alive with only some dead pixels.
Same here! I was convinced I killed the display.
Dawid is slowly transitioning to some kind of tech caveman with that beard.
And the long hair.
Bro bout to discover fire the different way
he transitioned years ago, shaved, transitioned again, I like the beard better tbh I think he should keep it XD
@@jaydude25thank you. Those noobs weren't born early enough to see the earlier beard transition I guess.
Or they were too busy watching Minecraft porn on their sesame street Chromebooks.
Circle of life.
@@beetroot7156 I’m the most excited about discovering the wheel. It’s gonna make it so much easier to get all these systems I steal from a neighbouring tribe home.
I love seeing the before and after ram installs. This one was pretty substantial.
I love how Dawid got your granny to get him a nice granny mouse pad🤣🤣🤣
On new Intel iGPUs (11th Gen and up) Its possible to install the Intel ARC GPU Drivers. Which should dramatically improve the brute performance of the iGPU.
Better off buying a Ryzen model if you want to play some games.
I play tf outta mcc on the laptop version of this computer
do you have any more info on this? i got a 11th gen i3 tablet here and curios to squeeze more power out. i already got the cpu to run at all core boosts ifor inifinite durations. but gpu, no dice.
@@rayproductionsbackupchanne3862 I have the Lenovo idea pad with a 12 gen intel i3 (UHD)with 12 gb ram, didn’t play it before I got the drivers, reach is low with graphical textures normal, but the others are normal graphics
@@rayproductionsbackupchanne3862
Well. The performance gain ranges from nothing to 30%. Depending on the game. I have only noticed with Genshin Impact on my girlfriend's Surface Pro 8 that it gets less warm and runs "smoother" with the Intel drivers. You have to try it out to see exactly what it does. However, after each installation of the ARC drivers, Windows tries, via Windows Update, to install the prehistoric driver again. I then have to reset it to the new driver each time via the device manager.
DX9 and DX10/11 Games will benefit the most. DX12 less so. But a little is always better than nothing.
This felt incredibly unrealistic as there was a disturbing lack of random bloatware that Granny acquired looking for new chocolate chip cookie recipes.
I once got a system that was owned by a granny, and oh my god, the bloatware was absolutely insane. For starters, the computer took like, 20 minutes to boot, (I wish I was kidding) and the amount of popups on screen was absolutely ludicrous. This lady had like half a dozen different antiviruses and about 10 of those PC cleaning programs. One clean install of Windows XP later, it ran like a charm...until the motherboard crapped out. RIP random Gateway tower (2003-2023)
My brother-in-law’s web browser was once so full of search bar add-ons hat they took up a third of the screen. He couldn’t figure out why his plague ship system was running so slowly.
Obviously any of the antivirus keeps the system clean and the optimizers keep them fast. And the more you have the more fast and clean it gets
@@HappyBeezerStudios Yeah, of course! The more the merrier!
@@93Volvo240If the antivirus is using all of the CPU, there's no room for the viruses to run :D
It's always a thrill to upgrade to dual channel ram and see the results specially on igpu systems
Would be interesting to see some slow dual channel vs fast single channel tests, because single channel with double the clock should give the same bandwith.
The biggest improvement came from doubling the RAM, not dual channel mode. Fortnite was super memory starved.
Dawid, I just discovered your channel about 2 weeks ago. Awesome job! You're quickly becoming my most watched content creator!
@@lurch789 I just got back into computer gaming after taking 20 years off...so yeah, kind of.
Nooooooob😄
@janezverbic2093 did you read my post above? Definitely not a noob...just took a long hiatus. Lol!
@@cueball981 I did,i know, just a joke, Dawid uses noob a lot...
@janezverbic2093 it's fun to say, too! Lol!
I actually got the AMD Ryzen version of this for my aunts.
I wanted something simple for them and these AIOs are perfectly serviceable for them.
As soon as I saw it had a Pentium Gold chip I was hoping you could get it with something like a 5650U 🙂
i still dont understand how manufacturers do not use 2 ram sticks, It always does make a good performance buff and that makes the product more attractive to buy, no? and it aint even that expensive
Companies want to maximize profits so only putting one stick in saves money. The people who buy these things aren't going to game on them usually so one stick is usually enough for emailing and using social media apps.
The use case for this AIO does not really require two RAM sticks but having two slots like this PC is like having a free gift.
Found this channel by accident, litterally the tech channel the world needs, the humour is simply brilliant, how all nerds should absorb tech
7:48 "and after that brief distraction I turned my toxicity back to the granny system" just killed me 😂😂😂😂
David your commentary is always hilarious and makes it easy to recommend your videos. Keep up the funny comparisons you do. Makes my day every time.
I hope my grandmother wouldn't buy this - it means it's the beginning of the zombie apocolypse and she's returned from the dead.
But then at least we'd get to have the zombie apocalypse. That would be cool, probably?
I bought the higher tier model for my tech illiterate wife, with the I5-1135G7. It comes with a 27" display and 16 GB of RAM. It does have Iris Xe graphics though and I could test some games on it at very low settings. It does run quiet nicely for what she's doing. 😃
I finished watching the intro of the original BSG tv series and among the thumbnails I see this video. I think to myself, that's weird I don't remember seeing this before, perhaps I missed it.
17 minutes ago.
Oh a new one!
Nice!
Got my first working vga Crt today, gave me inspiration to buy one and make a video about it. Thanks Dawid!
@@lurch789 an ultra scan Trinitron
You're truly living the dream brother.
Thanks for the videos man. 😎✌️
"Let's see what other VD granny has to deal with. " - Dawid
im so happy that dawid is always going to be around. he make wholesome content that everyone can enjoy. no linus media group issues just pure tech joy from this channel.
6:17 bro the nostalgia just hit me hard...
I am genuinely surprised that it has actual so-dimm slots and not soldered ram. Neat. Was there anything good in the BIOS? Adjustable power limits or iGPU memory allocation settings?
Actually I think it might be even cheaper in not space restricted computers like this one. As you can then pick sticks from any supplier...
Sadly, in reality granny probably would have ended up with a $2k to $3k system that the salesman convinced her she needed in order to read her email.
That funky music that kicks in at 12:26 is so lovely :D
That granny mouse mat is the best thing ive ever seen on TH-cam. Honestly spent 5 minutes laughing followed by "I kinda want one" haha 😅
The mouse pad got me. Great job, Anna! Please let us know where to buy one.
It's called a mouserug.
the mouse mat! its the dude rug from big lebowski i had one years ago
One of these with either one of AMD's upcoming Strix APUs or even their current gen Phoenix APUs would actually be pretty interesting.
Gotta love starting your day with a Dawid video!
Love your channel and your humor. Best wishes from Germany
That mousepad really tied the desk together.
In some weird way I would totally use that if it was bigger. There is something ironic about gaming on a beefy system, but having grandmas knitted carpet for a mousepad.
the mouse mat! its the dude rug from big lebowski i had one years ago
That mousepad is glorious
"It got this little pop up webcam thing, you know your granny can hide her identity while she's being scammed on the internet."
Pissed myself laughing! 🤣
I just love that the Stand screws into the cover of the mainboard and not anything else.
Lenovo actually surprise me with how affordable and powerful their stuffis, quality is OK too
They also sell replacement parts which is pretty nice
I buy AIOs for my office. They’re perfectly fine for office work tasks, especially if you bump the memory up (when you can, if it’s not soldered), but yeah gaming on one of these things just isn’t going to happen. I think I managed to get Skyrim going at like 25 fps on a Ryzen 5 system, but considering that these things are basically cheap laptops stuck to the back of a big screen it’s not surprising that they suck for anything other than spreadsheets and email.
I know he's playing games on it for views but these systems are fine for grandparents and simple office setups, like a front desk of some small business. Even better would be if it had Windows S mode so that Indians can't remote in with something like TeamViewer and scam the seniors out of money
11:51 "Ohhh Ohhhh, We're finally inside" 💀💀
"Break it back together" I love that term and will be using it from now on
I wonder what would happen if you could run a external gpu from one of the m. 2 slots?
CPU bottleneck.
The word isn't really appropriate in most situations, but here it fits.
A true granny would never take that mouse mat out of the packaging.
My parents had an early Lenovo all-in-one from 2013ish.
In my opinion, their design back then was much better. I refurbished it to sell a few years ago and was really surprised. The PC was in the base, opened with a handful of screws. The RAM was upgradable, and they included an mSATA slot, which I made use of so the new owner got a much better OS experience.
Of course that PC was packing an i5 and 530M I believe, and also cost more than $2000 at the time...but it just makes more sense to put the PC in the base.
I didn't need to hear: "see what kind of hardware Granny's packing"
Love your videos just watching them everyday everytime
*Great to see these can still do a bit of light gaming*
I use some of these all in one for office use, really easy to upgrade, although you need to yank that backplate hard in oRder to get it opened
12:57 My god! I had a carpet like that in my childhood room!
Grandma pcs are getting good. I use a similarly specced (athlon 200ge 16gb ram, ssd, aka old parts i had laying around) pc for web browsing and youtube watching and its certainly still more than capable for everyday grandma tasks.
It's great that old mid/high end hardware is as cheap as trash most of the time and that it's still capable of doing most regular stuff comfortably and smoothly.
so is a 150$ laptop tbf.
That video made my morning. Best mouse pad I have ever seen! :D
Awesomesauce video, Dawid!! That mouse pad had me almost falling out of my chair! 😅😅
Dawid's groaning while opening the "PC" is just *chef's kiss*!
I love your videos Dawid, your sarcasm game is legendary and your quips make me LOL, keep up the good work ;)
That would be a nice layout for an AIO if it had a smaller keyboard that could slot into that shelf on the base..
But of course that's for holding Granny's Precious Moments figurines, so we can't have everything.
OMG Dawid! This might be the best episode of yours yet!🤣🤣😂😂. Had me rolling. Where did you get the granny mouse pad? I think I'm in love 😻😻💝💝.
Much thanks as I giggle my way to sleep now~!
the music for this channel it's both excited and sarcastic, love it
The mousepad! 😂 it only needs tassels on each corner to become Alladin’s flying carpet 😂
its the dude rug from big lebowski i had one years ago
@@higherspirit7784 never watched it 😂
the ohh and ahhs at 11:25 got me xD
I really like the ease to upgrade the hardware on this computer.
Watching this on a Lenovo AIO in my office was... an experience. 🙃
Honestly though, I love Ryzen-based AIOs Lenovo makes, they are a really nice package price-to-performance-wise. The only downside is how annoying they are to disassemble and upgrade, they are really though out as back boxes that you set up in your office and never think about them until they decompose from old age.
I've had that exact same mouse and keyboard, and the one thing I didn't enjoy was that the keyboard seemed to "time out" and I'd have to mash the keys a bunch before it came back to life for whatever reason.
Aside from the CPU, the hardware is actually kinda good for such a cheap all in one. If they were able to snuck in an i3 11th gen or newer, it would be a winner.
PS. I just checked on our local online store, and this model, with 4gb of ram costs $600 here in the Philippines LOL
Great video! God bless you and yours! Praying for you
I like the colors you chose for the LTT Screw Driver!
I laughed so hard when I saw that granny mousepad and also I kind of want one. Haha
Someone needs to make a Dawid grunting compilation video.
Lenovo is really great when it comes to documentation and upgradability, but god forbid you wanna open one up to do so. Had the same experience with my ThinkPad. Took almost an hour of trying to get the bottom off.
Wow grandma! I can feel the dust
"break it back together" never thought id hear those words in one line
honestly, i would buy something like this for my grandmother
I have one of those (probably previous gen) that I bought in 2022. Instead of Intel's Pentium it has some AMD 4 core 8 thread. Not gonna lie, it performs pretty well, even when it comes to some medium gaming.
I watched this video whilst teaching my fish to install an AIO
Pentium Gold 7505 is Tiger Lake (11th Gen.) with "10 nm SuperFin"
The HDMI is an HDMI Out if you were wondering.
Every time I see a game is not using much memory, I expect adding more will be no improvement. But this shows it does improve things. I wonder why the game was only using about 1 GB when it had only 8. Unless the system was using the rest.
I have gaming pcs all over the house - one in the living room, three in the bedroom, kids have gamning pcs all buil;t by my good self. Aaaand we have an Optiplex all in one pc in the kitchen which is BY FAR the most used pc in the house! Originally it had an i5 6500 (now upgraded to 6600) and a 128gb SSD (now has external 1tb) and has 2x4gb DDR3. I can even play World of Tanks on it! Its got some upgradeability with regards to CPU, RAM and HD. I may even try a 7 series Intel to see if that will work.
Unlike the AIO in the video the Opti opens up really easily. Graphics is the only limiter really. Currently running the onboard 530. They do an Opti of mine with a graphics card but im thinking upgrading that will be more trouble than its worth.
But what a neat little system to use! id reccomend one to any one.
Dawid: "Uuuuugh, Ohhhhh, UGGGGGGGG, OOOOOO, finally we are inside!"
Wife: "What on earth are you watching?"
IF it uses Lenovo's standard optical drive attachment (SATA) it may be possible to get a drive bay adapter so you could at least add a SATA SSD perhaps.
I have the Ryzen version of this all in one and its literally filling me with dread with the thought of tearing off the back to upgrade the ram
Removable batteries are better than built-in rechargeables imo, since they are replaceable. I have a rotating sack of rechargeable AAs I use for various things.
Actually laughed out loud when he said "Break it back together"
Very enjoyable video, as always. Appreciate you showing how to get to components, but it may be worth actually trying to upgrade them. I have no idea about their all in ones, but I know Lenovo laptops often whitelist things like network cards, so you can change it - but only to a Lenovo produced one for that model, or the laptop will refuse to POST until it's taken out. Any chance of testing on this beast?
My mom has one of those. It just received a brand new everything under warranty. The tech even busted the screen trying to get into it. It took two techs, with three visits to replace the MOBO and then it was missing the ribbon cable clamp, so they had to order a new one. With only a month left on the extended warranty, she got a new MOBO, processor and screen.
That disassembly is like opening a monitor and finding a laptop inside.
If there is any PCIe lane available, even if it's through M.2 you could do a real upgrade and connect one of these external GPU thingies and throw a 4090 at it.
Well done for adding more memory, pity that it is not an easy end user option. What happed about the optional optical drive. Would have liked to see more touch screen
It's videos like this that makes you really understand Dawid's hatred of computers that only have single stick of RAM.
13:00 that mouse pad I think our house has a carpet like it
"Now we just have to break it back together"
After you opened that thing up I had to pause the video and go pop the side panel off my PC as a sort of mental sorbet to get me ready for the next course.
Dude I'm still subscribed to you because you say things like, "Now we just have to break it back together". Never change my dude
Dawid always finds the worst systems to test, every time I get a good laugh watching him torture himself dealing with the dinosaur age systems and to try gaming on them it is hilarious every time!!!!! Hahahahaha!!!!!
4:06 “…the higher end model has a DVD drive in here…” I had to check the publish date on this video at that point
Actually bought a Lenovo pre-built off Amazon back in 2014 with an i5, a 750ti, & 32gb ram for $600ish. Thing was actually a little beast
Great one like always !!!
Grannies gonna savage. I like that upgrading the RAM is a life-or-death operation for the system.
watching this video actually brought back good old memories of what gaming looked like to me, before I had a job so I could afford a decent gaming PC xD
I am frankly baffled by the lack of Quamires here given the references to filling in and opening holes. But the grunts and groans made up for it.