Fixing This TERRIBLE Amazon "Gaming PC" Went...Well
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I try and fix up a stupid gaming PC I bought from amazon with an RTX 4070 in it for some reason.
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Always love watching Dawid for tips on minor tweaks to improve your Amazon prebuilt. Such as replacing nearly every component and literally tearing the case apart.
That was still a stock power supply. And GPU. lol
@@rustler08 I wonder if it's super loud because there's limited airflow? The AIO needs to breathe. When fans don't breathe, they get loud and inefficient. Maybe he needs to use the Dremel a bit more on the front... try not to sacrifice integrity, but maybe cut some metal, add some mesh and a magnetic filter? IDK just spitballing. There could be a part 2 to this.
@@SeeJayPlayGames yeah it's called using a 120mm rad. They're trash
Always happy to provide practical advise on this channel. 😂
its not that dificult to build a capable gaming pc for under ike 450 - 550 cdn
Personally, I enjoy fitting my large GPU into tight holes.
You mean average GPU?
who doesnt??
It ain't original. You're JC Denton. Your "GPU" is probably augmented.
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@@Mackyo_15but it has a great personality
Amazon never fails to throw my expectations down the drain
I always have a question I would like to ask Dawid. After the video, what does he do with many of his "trash" computers? Does he sell them on eBay? Return them? Many TH-camrs get "sponsored items" such as graphic cards/motherboards/power supplies. But what do Dawid do with those "trash" after the video after he clearly purchased it from his wallet?
Amazon has nothing to do with 99.999% of their products as those are sold by tens of thousands of companies, resellers, scammers, refubers etc
Amazon just procides a website where those companies can advertise and sell their products
You as a buyer should know, you see the name of the actual seller dor many rpoducts
@@helloworld9811 I’d like to assume he either sells them or reuses their parts for future videos
Thing is its not amazon that builds the computers. They might slap their name on some things, but that doesn't mean they made them from scratch
What has Amazon to do with this? They are only the Marketplace where such Systems are sold. This PC is made by "Shuttle". A well known Systembuilder for such small PCs.
Would you blame your local Supermarket for a Product they are selling but not producing? No. You would blame the Producer, right?
Dawid redecorating at home: "You know, if we take out it load bearing wall, we're gonna get so much more space!"
Haha the stuff of nightmares 😂
Actually my brother did that, to make a through lounge. He was so proud. My stepdad, a painter and decorator, went to see and was horrified! The upstairs wall, supported by nothing, was already slowly and visibly curving the floor joists downwards. An hour later they were jacking the wall back up and installing a steel joist
Load bearing ventilation ducts could be a new trend. 😄
That’s why I will only ever rent. Stops me from doing dumb stuff to the place. 😂
@@DawidDoesTechStuff It's important to know one's limitations 👍
I did a shuttle PC way before ITX was a thing (over 20 years ago). I always wondered why they didn’t emerge quickly for ITX builds…. Dawid, I am glad you did all this entertaining hard work to show Shuttle what they SHOULD do…
I still have my Shuttle PC from the Pentium 4 days. It was a neat little aluminum box back then; the new one looks more bland (somehow) than the Fractal Design Core 500 ITX I built. I didn't think it was possible...even the Arc A770 LE and 9700K in that system crushes that Shuttle configuration.
built two from the core 2 duo era, and theya re indeed still in use. as htpcs
I remember VIA boards that were mini ITX, around 2001-2002.
@@iamwonderFilMine was literally a laptop in a tiny box. It worked great until it aged out because the onboard graphics was only good for 4x3 scaling.
I’ve still got my old shuttle XPC.
@05:33 "Not even McAfee would pay to be put on this system". That's brutal.
Dawid is slowly starting to look like ewan mcgregor and I love it!
I cant unsee it now
@@yeetus076 good!
I cant wait for him to start a video with: „Hello there!“
@@TheSykoRC General Kenobi you are a bold one
If you love it so much why don't you and Dawid and Ewan McGregor have a 3 way (death match)?
By the way, I haven't seen a film movie since the original swedish "girl with the dragon tattoo" so I have no idea who Ewan McGregor is. I bet he was that guy in Boss Baby. Or Free Guy or the Emoji Movie.
I love that in order to "fix" the system he essentially just rebuilt the whole computer lol
did your dad leave you again?🤣🤣🤣
@@SaraMorgan-ym6ue ???
These are some of best computer videos on TH-cam adding much needed comic relief.
have you ever tried putting a Doberman heart into a Chiwawa?🤣
I was a big fan of Shuttle XPCs back in the 00s. I proudly used my SS51G as my primary driver from about 2002 to 2008. This video has tickled my nostalgia bone and I am really surprised that Shuttle is still producing XPCs with this same form factor in 2023.
I used an SN41G2 from about 2008 (given to me by a family member) until 2012. My particular system had an Athlon XP-M in there for maximum l33t overclocking and a GeForce 7800 GS.
SN41G2 here. Still works even after modding it with open-loop water cooling to help with the heat (not much). The case is still nice on the outside, so maybe do an ITX project in it one day with cheap, cold, modern compnents with integrated graphics.
Yeah I remember them, never owned one but I thought the small form factor was cool. Glad to see Shuttle is still around as I completely forgot about them.
This case has a lot more empty space than the Core2 era one I had. The lack of optical drive and 3.5” hard drives frees up a lot of room.
I kept saying “why doesn’t he just drill the parts out that are in the way?” And cheered so loudly when he busted out the Dremel. Lol.😂
are you learning?
It would have been interesting to see what an i7-7700 could have done on the original motherboard, what with all the powering ahead you did. Great video!
That is a CPU era of pretty mediocre performance. You'd be spending $80 on a meh processor. To put it in perspective, even a base 13100F is far faster than a 7700K, let alone a 7700.
So, you'd be throwing money at a CPU to go from extremely bottlenecked to "still bottlenecked, but $80 poorer." Not exactly sure I'd want to throw $80 away when you could just save that toward something with much better performance.
@@rustler08 Yeah, at this point any quad core era platform should be relegated to office work and web browsing as gaming on anything but one of the fastest quad cores available isn't great unless you plan on playing only older stuff.
@@rustler08 You have a point, but the 7700 will seriously outrun the cpu that's in there. I use an i7-7700 in my HTPC, and it does OK on older titles (3-5 years old) in 1080p. And it would be a lot cheaper than a new motherboard.
there isnt any xeon with more than 4/8 that runs on that platform?
@@lndnfsu2 Probably, but (A) would the bios on that oddball motherboard support it, and (B) could the VRM's power it?
This is one of my favourite videos in a while. I had a Shuttle back in the C2D days and this brings me back. Great to see with a lotta work these are still semi-worth while :)
If by "semi-worth while" you mean it's still suboptimal after replacing almost everything and modding what's left, I'd agree.
Honestly, I feel like rather than completely trying to upgrade the motherboard, etc.. you could have simply replaced that i5-7400 with something like a Xeon E3-1270 v5 (4 core, 8 thread, 3.5 GHz - roughly $25-30USD), or an i7-8700 (6 core/12 thread 3.2GHz - roughly $75-80USD) and been done with it. A ton less pain and frustration and very well matched with the 4070... you'd barely have to remove and re-mount anything. Also both of these run at approximately HALF of the TDP of the 12600K, which means no heat problems. Heck, the i7-8700 is the exact same TDP as the i5-7400.
sorry, but the eight gen and ninth gen are not compatible with the 6th and 7th gen.
the LGA 1151 sockets are *physically* the same, but the pinout is different.
Shuttle! They made the proto-mini PCs back in 2007-2011 with...ugh...Atom CPUs. But also expandable RAM and storage, slim case profiles, ultra-low power consumption, near-zero noise and the coolest looking cases you could buy at the time. So many fond memories of those old machines.
They were around before 2007 and you could put an actual CPU in them. I remember they sold barebone kits. Think they started popping up around AMD Athlon XP/Pentium 4 days.
@@Gatorade69 Shuttle in general, yeah, P4/AXP sounds about right. But their systems that were about the size of a VHS tape are the ones I remember well. Their Atom CPUs were junk, but they still let you put a real desktop PC capable of basic office tasks (and sweet, sweet emulation) just about anywhere.
I loved the small Shuttle XPCs back when Lan Parties used to be more common, in times where most people didn't have a good Internet connection to play online Multiplayer games. Having a nicely portable PC was really practical. I actually still have my two shuttle PCs from back then, one is a Shuttle SK43G (Socket A with an Athlon XP) and the other one is a Shuttle SN21G5 (Socket 939 with an Athlon 64 X2).
You know if you stopped buying pre built PCs and built your own from the start your tumor would start to shrink. Just my tip of the week. Keep doing what you do! Always love your videos.
I agree. It's a hassle to build a PC but once you do, you will never buy another pre-built again. You have a better power supply, better board, better IO, everything.
Dawid singlehandedly keeping the sketchy amazon prebuilt market alive lmao. Great video!
Redundant alive :)
It's not Amazon, it's older model from Shuttle.
I remember really wanting a Shuttle PC years ago. We need more SFF cases and GPUs that will fit in them.
Anyone who hasn't fixed a PC with a Dremel or angle grinder or hacksaw (or in one case I used, the sidewalk) hasn't actually built a PC. We watched Dawid earn his stripes on this one (Like... again I mean.) He's really into 'Hard Core' PC building as his core is now chiselled Adonis levels from all this extra work.
This is my favorite video from Dawid. Just the right amount of cursed PC, PC building, at it's finest 😂
I appreciate that your go to for resolving the radiator issue was to get the Dremel and drill multiple holes, but your go to for not having a short enough standoff was to replace ALL the standoffs with things that didn't fit rather than getting the Dremel and grinding down one of your spare standoffs to make it shorter.
Dawid's acting is once again top tier.
I've loved this video ! it's so great to see Dawid cutting, drilling and taking apart all kind of stuff to make a functional Frankenstein out of useless PC case. I'm sure you could have mounted extra noctua fans into the case and made it quieter and more efficient!
Love when the 600$ GPU costs ~800$ on the other side.
Other side of what?
Well, as the IChing always says, "Perseverance furthers". Nice work Mr. D, nice work!
Looks like you went through a lot of work/Hell to deliver what was an informative and entertaining video.
Thank you for the extreme effort 👌
I feel his pain. I had a 2011-vintage Shuttle BBC that became "spare" in 2018 and I wanted to see what could be done to "improve" it. First, the Shuttle Mobo is a non-standard form factor like in the video and only supported Socket 775 with DDR2 RAM, SATA-II and USB2. The original CPU was a Dual-Core Celeron, but could be upgraded to Pentium Quad. The big problem was no video card, the system was limited to Intel 4500 graphics. Basically, to make this system even moderately useful for light gaming would have meant throwing out everything but the case and power supply. So the case did support Mini-ITX, but the PSU was a non-standard 250W (like in the video, only weaker). So yeah, it would have been better to toss everything and start over. Oh, and in 2018, DDR2 RAM was like $200 for 8GB! So pretty much useless. You can buy modern pre-built AMD/Radeon Mini PC gaming configurations nowadays for less money than you would spend on upgrading these terrible Shuttle systems. Fun video!
I had one of these and also their Biostar competitor back in the mid-2000's. They were really cool for what they were back then. I'm surprised that they're still around as they never really exploded and became more popular from what I remember. Working inside was both very cool and also a little frustrating as Dawid saw for himself.
One of the best videos yet. We need more of you making random PCs by squishing stuff together in new cases!
So much work goes into your videos, loved it❤
this is my favorite Dawid video, i dig the mods breh
Watching Dawid use tools instantly activates my dad reflex to jump up and take it from him, lest he dismember himself in Tarantino fashion. I have fingerprints all over my monitor from watching Dawid videos. Great job rescuing that travesty of a pre-built!
Same 😂
@@AnnaDoes Please make sure he at least wears safety glasses 😂
I love PC case mods. I have recently become a fan of tiny and open air cases. Im going to look into this one. Thanks for another great video.
You savaged that machine yet I’m not disappointed. I kind of like the chassis, motherboard and cooling design by default for some strange reason. It makes me nostalgic. Anyways, I can’t believe they’d even build such mismatched systems. Thank you for smiting the prebuilt gods once again
This video brought back memories of the one Shuttle computer I owned well before the model you had. Right down to the dremeling part. I added a couple of fans on the top of the case. So glad I sold that sucker down the line... Was cool for LAN parties when that was a thing!
I had used a Shuttle XPC in around 2005, with an A64 3400+ and a X800Pro. It got so hot and loud, I eventually had to watercool it with an external pump and radiator. I'm just surprised the tiny PSU never died on me. After that, I have never again build a PC smaller that mATX.
You ever take it to a Newegg Lan Party ?
I remember seeing a watercooled Shuttle at Newegg Lanfest in 2005 and remember it had similar specs to my PC (A64 3200+ and a X800XT).
That intro was hilarious. Dawid humor is peak comedy and you can't tell me otherwise!
Your videos are alway entertaining, thanks. And I picked up some good hardware ideas if I ever want to build something like this from scratch.
Watching this with the same CPU as that computer shipped with. Ironically, the video crashed around half-time.
Ah yes, fix the pc by changeing all the components to make a whole new pc.
11:05 tesla, hire this man now
Hey Dawid you could've just used a lower powered cpu like the i3 12100f which would've been easier to cool without much performance loss
Dawid nailed this one? nah dremmeled this one out the park!
I always loved the shuttle PCs, since the early 2000s. Actually owned 2 pentium4 based shuttles in the late 2000s. I actually considered buying a bare one of this precise case you used here. I was thinking 92mm AIO, I’m sooo glad you did the leg work and convinced me I SHOULDNT do this haha. The psu format is FLEX and I think seasonic makes one. But it’s also a 500W, so no real use upgrading here. Cool vid. :)
At 8:40 we can see the heatsink uses the same "hand screws" as the case cover.. just why?
Personally, with a 500W PSU, I'd have looked at an i5-13400F or possibly a previous-gen AMD option, like a 5600 to keep power consumption down and maybe some extra case fans (looks like 92mm or 80mm may fit). Any airflow is better than none! Other than that, great Dremeling!
It looks like you could potentially fit a longer GPU in there, maybe up to 290mm or so?
Love the effort with the dremel
One of your best videos in a while... Thank you... Would it have been possible to update the CPU that was in the system already? I dont know intel sockets that well... but it would have been interesting to see if that was a possible 'upgrade'
Depends if the bios will handle it but a 7700k would help somewhat....maybe. That ram speed is really going to kill any performance increase from the faster cpu.
You could shove an i7-7700K in it, but I can tell you from experience those things run shockingly hot. Also, the 4070 is still going to spend most of its time napping.
The only options is to get a non-K i7 since the motherboard doesn't allow overclocking but these old intel CPUs also suffer from spectre and meltdown vulnerability which was patched in windows but the patch decrease the performance of intel multithreading so the locked i7 might not be that much faster...
@@PyroCatusYou can and should disable the mitigations. Inspectre program makes it easy on windows, Linux you set mitigations=off in kernel options
Dawid uploads bring me happiness
It's unlike Shuttle that they put this configuration together. It must be a third-party. If people understood who Shuttle are, they'd be amazed at the systems they put together. One of the most reliable manufacturers making systems that last decades. Sure, you haven't heard of them, thats because they make systems geared more so the commercial market. this was one of the rare gaming systems they put together years ago. Dawid, if you can find Shuttle's latest cube model SH570R8, if would be a interesting review.
Yeah, it doesn't look like a shuttle - has the form factor but the specs are odd (the shuttle you speak of is LGA 1200 platform)
At what point does an _"upgrade"_ become rebuilding an entire system using just the case the computer came in?
I wouldnt say this classifies as an upgrade. 😂
I hate the intro scene because that's how I would've been in reality if I didn't lose a part of my childish self for guilting my parents into buying something I wish for...
I hate myself for looking at kids doing this..
I think this is my favorite video in awhile... Every time a dremel comes to the party is a good time
Also, I want to see this motherboard being modded using CoffeeTime to see if it'll make it better for compatibility.
(There's more explanation of this program in a video called "Putting a Laptop CPU in my Home server" by Wolfgang)
Laws: you cannot knowingly sell gaming technology that will be completely and utterly compromised by other components!
Various tech sellers: the law HATES that we know this one simple trick!
introducing.... This NAS! it's NOT a gaming PC!
SHould have tried with a 10th or 11th gen Intel CPU to use the original cooler and see how that fared!
There's not another motherboard in the universe that has the CPU socket in the same spot as that one, and it would have to be precisely in the same location for both the cooler and the IO shield to reach the rear panel.
@@drewdane40 Doesn't hurt to try, though. You're just assuming that there isn't a single one that'll work. That's the kind of pessimism that gets us nowhere.
Fantastic stuff - loving the DIY Dawid.
Amazon PCS on really never fail to yeet my expectations out the window
tbf the original build CPU cooler was acting as exhaust, but once you swapped to the downblowing LP cooler the whole system pretty much had no exhaust left. Small oversight? wonder if adding one would have made any difference 🤔
Shuttle employee here. Shuttle has moved away from the pc gaming market for a long time now and focuses more on professional and industrial computers. As for the R9 pc featured in this video, I'm not quite sure why Amazon wanted this configuration from us but we're not going to complain about a sale. Please note this is from my own personal perspective and not as representative of the company.
Dawid is easily my favorite pc tech youtuber rn. Such fun videos and great presentation! Always excited to see a new video from this legend 👏
So does the original air cooler you tried fit now with the....modifications for the AIO 120mm
This brings back memories... Years ago I had a Shuttle PC case. I loved the thing, but it was a pain in the ass to work with. And that was without a modern GPU in there.
After having just built my first system I'd say building a pc is like cooking a nice meal.. all the ingredients need to work well/meld together in a specific way.
Very good video on illustrating bottlenecks.
Ah another day, another video riddled with sarcasm from Dawid. Love it.
a single mom can't afford this shit. Best case scenario for timmy wouldve been a 3050. This pc is the one the divorced dad buys to sway Timmy on his side even though dad had an affair
I still have one of these Shuttle PC's from around 2009 sitting on a shelf in my workshop. In its day it was serviceable for its purpose. I'm trying to figure a way to gut it and use the case.
i used to have a shuttle in 2005 and this was greatly small and portable, difficult to upgrade, noisy and not standard. The power ended up failing and there was not chance to find spares...despite that I still enjoyed it very much as it fitted on my desk
Magical new TH-cam algorithm recombining me old videos on purpose as a new video ,
But good video 😀
I spend half your videos laughing! I'm a sucker for sarcasm, which you are a highly skilled technician of. I also appreciate that you do have technical skills as well which always prevail, despite you downplaying them. As a habitual builder myself, I completely understand your drive to be challenged.
that effort my dude. You deserve all the success in the world for this. Thanks!
Timmy: Mom can we get a Fractal Terra?
Mom: We have a Fractal Terra at home
*The Fractal Terra at home*
With some more Dremel work to flushly mount the AIO to the case front, and noctua or be quiet fans for intake and exhaust you should get an even more significant thermal boost (which should translate to even more performance).
And seeing how dry the CPU paste was, maybe replace the GPU paste too.
That PC be looking like a fanatec DD racing wheel base
This is like one of those life hack videos where the life hack is even harder.
You are the Bob Ross of Tech TH-camrs. That is the highest compliment I could think of in the moment. Thank you for all the laughs!
Great video as usual, the editing is really good too. All the best
Replacing that horrid fan on the AIO with a noctua might fix the noise issues. The P120/P140 fans that come with NZXT AIOs are pretty terrible.
Seeing that Shuttle even has got their own software on, they should have known what they were doing. They were the og of shoebox builds, what happened...
David "fixing" the prebuild by keeping only one part and moding another, while the rest is new. Love it!
Pc of Theseus
I unironically love these little shuttle pcs... makes mebwant to tinker with one thier barebones kits again.
Dawid missed his call as a comedian because I am constantly laughing at his anecdotes and unique "perspectives" in his videos. Like, I come here for solid PC/tech experiences and he delivers, but this guy has me genuinely laughing my ass off with his quips...just brilliant. Rock on dude!
I hate computers like this, lurering in unsuspecting timmys with the promise of gaming at a cheaper price then the competition, only to it be a huge scam
You good sir have mastered the art of an engaging 1st minute. Friggen golden
The prolonged "Ahhhhhhhhhhh" at 11:50 reminded me each and every moment in my life as a PC service employee when i cut myself in the motherboards shields! And it hurt soooo much!
That 100 degrees reading was giving me anxiety!
You should do a video on temu stuff. I've seen ssd and coolers. Might be a fun one.
Amongst the first gaming LAN PCs I built was a Shuttle. Nice to see they're still kicking around.
Ahoy, so a smart car with a great audio system? Shoehorn in a charger drivetrain and a supercharger, then its a smart car that goes 160 mph...still with a great audio system! Very entertaining. Cheers, daveyb
"Crying" was realistic. I've cried with same shame after receiving my prebuild gaming pc.
'its loud' doesn't let us hear just how loud
That seemed like far too much work. But , well done Dawid. 10 outa 10 .
Your perseverance has helped me get out of the bed this morning. Thank you, I know the rest of my day could not be as bad as this build.❤
I was so excited thinking you would put the i7-7700k CPU on that motherboard :/
I loved my shuttles. First was an Athlon 64 3200 and 6600GT, then a Core2Duo 6550 and 9600GT, then a i7-920 and radeon 5850. Never had one fail!
Hello Dawid, thank you for doing tech stuff
To be fair little timmy would not have noticed anything wrong with the stock pc
30 seconds in: Dawid gives a mournful wail.
Subtitle: (Foreign Music)
oooookay....
Dawid, the effort you put in here I haven't seen in a lot of videos, lol props to you!