I Bought The WORST Rated Best Buy Gaming PC

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  • @_SamDoesStuff_
    @_SamDoesStuff_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +652

    "E-Waste peripherals as fun to use as a home colonoscopy kit."
    The medical dictionary is still coming in handy I see David.

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      Best money I ever spent.

    • @etiennebsm692
      @etiennebsm692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I just realized my school uses these e-waste peripherals for ALL the computers (students use them every day)

    • @GrayDaDolf
      @GrayDaDolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@etiennebsm692 There's a difference from resonable OEM products (ones that wouldn't be suitable for gaming), and OEM products that don't deserve to be labeled by even the shittiest of companies ("how tf can someone use MS Word on this???/?")

    • @LordOfNihil
      @LordOfNihil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@etiennebsm692 i worked for a small system integrator in the early 00s. i think we were paying less than a dollar per unit on e-waste peripherals. it is bloody amazing how cheap those things are when you order a thousand units at a time. unless you warranty the cheapo mouse and you have to pay a 3000% markup.

    • @annieworroll4373
      @annieworroll4373 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Included keyboards really are terrible. They're such an important part, but treated as an afterthought.

  • @Jackpkmn
    @Jackpkmn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +544

    In my experience after replacing the prebuilt's preinstalled os past that any slowdown of the PC over time is down to user error. People installing all kinds of weird crud and expecting their PC to not suffer for it. The other day i saw a guy complaining his computer was slow while he was running a mining program on it in the background.

    • @devilmikey00
      @devilmikey00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      If it lets you. I had an HP system years back that literally had it's bloatware built into the motherboard or something. Even went as far as installing windows in a different machine on a new HDD 100% clean then putting it into the HP and it refused to boot. You had to install windows on that computer at which point it would inject it's bloatware into the install at some point and if you tried to get around doing it the way HP wanted it would crash at boot.
      That's why I always caution the advice "just reinstall windows" because some companies go next level on not letting you do something on the hardware YOU bought without their permission.

    • @RuSrsbro
      @RuSrsbro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@devilmikey00 yep, you have to fully wipe all the partitions on the drive or the restore partition will reinstall all the junk, insanity.

    • @11matt555
      @11matt555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      lol. Honestly not sure how they managed know enough to configure a miner, but not enough to know that running a miner will hurt general usage (unless you specifically tune the miner to be a bit lighter on the system)... Maybe they were using the Norton miner.... o_o The horror of such thoughts...

    • @Jackpkmn
      @Jackpkmn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@devilmikey00 My professional recommendation is to not buy such computers. Not all oems do that and even HP doesn't do it on every system.

    • @Safetytrousers
      @Safetytrousers 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@11matt555 NiceHash basically does it all for you, it's really easy to setup. They even have a QuickMiner version which is even easier.

  • @HD7970
    @HD7970 2 ปีที่แล้ว +324

    Generally theres a debug option in those bioses. If you hold shift and hit the f keys you may be able to get a hidden list of bios options. Some dell bioses had hidden overclocking features in those menus.

    • @startedtech
      @startedtech 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Yeah, my MSI Laptop has a pretty damn exhaustive hidden BIOS menu. Like so exhaustive I'm fairly sure you could easily brick the laptop if you didn't know what you're doing.

    • @zedorda1337
      @zedorda1337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@startedtech You can't "brick" a system with a bios. Because they always have an on-board flash option back to the original bios.

    • @amehu
      @amehu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @@zedorda1337 not true

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Oh cool! I’ll dig around in it over my extended period with the system and see what I can find. 👍

    • @michaelimlay5773
      @michaelimlay5773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same. I have an Acer Nitro laptop and there is an advanced bios you can access to change many features.

  • @MarshallRawR
    @MarshallRawR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +242

    To be fair, the second comment could easily be user error. "My PC is slow now" is either aging hardware and newer software or just a user putting junk on it. I assume the PC came with a small SSD so it's probably full, can't cache anything etc.. Not to mention dust and all, that may increase temps and throttle the PC.

    • @InfectedChris
      @InfectedChris 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think it just had the single NVME drive. Or, they have 20 tabs of Chrome open.

    • @sweaterfish6311
      @sweaterfish6311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I mean, the review doesn't even imply that the thing got slower over time. It just says that it's slow and they've had it for 5 months.

    • @grumpywolfgaming
      @grumpywolfgaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Worked at MS support for years and owned my own pc business before that, I can GUARANTEE that's what happen (I would see this all the time). The person is probably one of those people who just click through installers and don't read anything installing tons of bloatware on their pc.

    • @devilmikey00
      @devilmikey00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yup, especially on cheap SLC caching SSD's. You only need to get your drive to 80-90% full and it will drop performance because of how caching works on those drives.

    • @NeinStein
      @NeinStein 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sweaterfish6311 The message is clear to me: It's so slow, it took them 5 months to write the review.

  • @hotskunkaction
    @hotskunkaction 2 ปีที่แล้ว +237

    "Gonna replace my main gaming PC with this POS for a month"
    GIGACHAD!

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Im curious to see how I’m going to feel about that system by the end of it. 😅

    • @xtremezone987
      @xtremezone987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@DawidDoesTechStuff I bet you rage after a week & toss it out the window ..... actually if you want to be really evil make Anna use it for the month. LoL ;)

  • @dragontales1999
    @dragontales1999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    I actually expected it to be from a no name obscure PC builder lol
    11:20 WTF IT'S $1200?! FOR JUST A GTX 1650! I BOUGHT ONE WITH A 1660 SUPER FOR $949!! (Apparently in Canadian dollars but still bad).

    • @DavidNap
      @DavidNap 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      same i got the gtx 1660S i5 11400F for 900$ or less in norway

    • @isakhedlund1213
      @isakhedlund1213 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      for the same price i got a 3060ti and i5 11400f and get this dual chanel ram

    • @dynoisnothere
      @dynoisnothere 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i enjoy gtx 650 with 1gb vram

    • @LAM_G80085
      @LAM_G80085 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol even a 900$ laptop is better than that

    • @silure9502
      @silure9502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Canadian $
      But still yes

  • @Kipe._
    @Kipe._ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    "It might be Smart Buy but the guy that built it might be a dumb guy" - The Greatest Technician That Has Ever Lived

  • @ghosttheoremproductions5469
    @ghosttheoremproductions5469 2 ปีที่แล้ว +253

    Reseller here --- I've gotten 2 of the older versions/variants second-hand for dirt cheap. Probably because it's pretty amazing how poorly they perform out of the box. Upgraded ram, storage, & cooling then resold. Not horrendous if picked up cheap and upgraded. But, you should open up that GPU and take a look at how poorly the internal cooling is done. HWmonitor will reveal the truth about temps on that gpu.

    • @jarateman6427
      @jarateman6427 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He showed the temps while gaming, which were in low 60's while gaming which is normal.

    • @dawre3124
      @dawre3124 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@jarateman6427 only the core gets active cooling on most oem cards, the core is what u saw in the video

    • @phyrtiv
      @phyrtiv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      The mobo needs to be swapped out tho, that bios has no options, they should get inspiration from the Chinese xeon mobo's with 9000 options

    • @torquilmorrison1283
      @torquilmorrison1283 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have roughly the same PC without graphics card but have 750 way power supply and 2 8 gigs ram

    • @torquilmorrison1283
      @torquilmorrison1283 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      But only for 300 pounds

  • @iiTzGwa
    @iiTzGwa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Press "F" for Dawid for sacrificing himself to this PC

  • @HELLACRY
    @HELLACRY 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love the before and after results with the ram configuration, after that outstanding Fortnite win!! Love the content dawid and I like how you actually read the comments.

  • @nicholasbrady3554
    @nicholasbrady3554 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Every time I see people commenting, I also see you personally try and respond to all of them. You are awesome man. Your ability to teach us about our favorite hobby all while giving us a good laugh is a godsend. I look forward to seeing these videos. I even go back and re-watch them. Maybe one day we can game a little together. I would love to have a brief chat sometime. Thanks again. You are the best. And not Best Buy(s) best. But the threadripper of tech tips.

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Haha!! Thanks for the awesome comment. I’m glad you enjoy the videos and maybe we’ll bump into each other in game at some point. 👍

  • @crobbo6607
    @crobbo6607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I do actually still own and use the old Nitro 50 ( since its my only pc) and, its not that bad.
    i7 8700
    Gtx 1060 6gb
    2tb
    dual stick 8bg (16 in total , before had single 8 stick but i upgraded it)
    even if it was a showroom model which was running for years and was therefore cheap and even if one of the ramslots broke, it works surprisingly good ( and it isnt possesed by anything which is a plus)

  • @doryiii
    @doryiii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I have a feeling that RAM speed limit is due to the PC only recognizing JEDEC speeds and not XMP/DOCP, like you saw with laptop ram kits before.

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Oh for sure, this is a problem I have with pretty much every OEM prebuilt.

  • @edlebrock3501
    @edlebrock3501 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    can i just say, your analogies are second to none on youtube! you constantly have my laughing my a@@ off in your videos, thanks for that!

  • @aliullah5795
    @aliullah5795 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another fine Dawid video with the sass other tech channels lack!

  • @MyThirdUserAccount
    @MyThirdUserAccount 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I bought this rig from a 2nd hand shop a couple months ago for around $400+tax as my first Project Desktop. After a week of diagnostics, reinstalling windows twice, and upgrading from 8g single to 16g dual ram (along with some other various tweaks) - it's been running quite well. Not the most terrible gaming pc in the world... if you find it at a decent price, anyway!

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      it gets slower over time sounds like someone let granny play with their computer and load it up with random bloatware🤣

  • @gbedford
    @gbedford 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I would have loved to see a quick compare of pulling the GTX and seeing how the 5600G fared with those two sticks of ram.

    • @scooterjes
      @scooterjes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      frome I saw they chose no not install a Mobo Graphics card plug which could be seen as a good and a bad thing it means people wont accdentially plug into the mobo video header and get even worse gaming performance.

  • @paullucas4914
    @paullucas4914 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, really enjoyed returning to the horrible Acer system and can't wait for the update video(s). Thanks Dawid.

  • @screwylooygaming
    @screwylooygaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking forward to your future video when possession has finally set in.

  • @douglasv4266
    @douglasv4266 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If that OEM BIOS has any options for ram speed if would be under the CPU and chipset section of the advanced tab, which you skipped over without actually checking.
    But sadly many/most OEM's dont allow you to enable AMP/XMP as its considered overclocking and in Intel's case only the more expensive chipsets and K series CPUs used to support it.

  • @gehenna_ca
    @gehenna_ca 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    The intermittent stuttering was likely due to the known fTPM issue with Ryzen and Windows 10 and 11. It's enabled in the BIOS when you were scrolling through there. Disabling that feature should make the issue go away. AMD said it will take BIOS updates to resolve and those are expected from motherboard manufacturers in May 2022.

    • @gehenna_ca
      @gehenna_ca 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @LabRat Knatz I'm still on Windows 10 but I had it enabled and disabled the fTPM without issue after running into the stuttering. From what I've seen from others the same is true for Windows 11. It has to be enabled during the install of Windows 11 and can be disabled once the install is done with out causing any problems from what I've heard.

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks for the suggestion. I’ll go and have a look. 😁

    • @dragontales1999
      @dragontales1999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DawidDoesTechStuff also one more thing, if you use Ryzen Master you can overclock the RAM (obviously only for Ryzen prebuilts, if you had an Intel processor you'd be out of luck).

    • @itsTyrion
      @itsTyrion 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait what?! Any link on this?

    • @gehenna_ca
      @gehenna_ca 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@itsTyrion I couldn't post a link previously. Just search for Ryzen fTPM bug or along those lines and the AMD article should come up with plenty of others.

  • @mytimetunnel
    @mytimetunnel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Going to have to look into that AK cooler, TY for the video :)

  • @Creed5.56
    @Creed5.56 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My first gaming pc was a pre-built Acer Predator UR100D back in 2014.
    12gb DDR3 ram (dual channel)
    GTX 760
    Core i7-4770
    2TB HDD
    It worked fine for a while, even put a 970 in it for better performance. That cpu is actually still in use in a system my step brother has, and the 760 is still kicking in that same system!

  • @fattomandeibu
    @fattomandeibu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It's creepily similar to the computer I built, but they're charging twice the price. I have a slightly better graphics card(1650 Super) and dual channel, but yeah. If you delete the bloat it's not that bad value considering current prices.

    • @francistaylor1822
      @francistaylor1822 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly. I dont think the single stick of ram is a good idea, but its not a completely terrible machine

  • @PaulLemars01
    @PaulLemars01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I think you need to invest in a second stick of 8GB green meenie ram that's exactly the same as the original and that should bring back that 3200 speed. Also if the system is slowing down progressively could this be indicative of an issue with the ultra budget NVME? I had a similar problem with an ADATASU635.

    • @MrR2185
      @MrR2185 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      My thought exactly. I would open the PC up and look at the model of that single stick of RAM and then go online to buy another one of that type. It's not pretty ram but getting another stick of 8GB to match is perfectly fine and saves a ton of cash over buying a whole new 16GB kit of memory, especially if it is running at 3200mhz. Plus, the performance difference between either kit would be negligible, at best.

    • @sousa2721
      @sousa2721 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MrR2185 One thing to note,
      These "simple" sticks of ram can sometimes not be so "simple", sometimes these green sticks of ram are made by request to the manufacturer to be the cheapest possible. What that means is they usually are single rank sticks, the ones you find online are probably dual rank sticks because its made for a global market.
      Therefore you may end up with two sticks that you think that are the same, they have exactly the same specs and branding but they are very different inside and the machine may not even post.
      Ive had machines that only post with single rank memory, ive had machines that only post with dual rank memory, but nowadays consumer-grade they pretty much accept everything you throw in.
      Do not confuse with single and dual channel memory.

  • @pixelpuppy
    @pixelpuppy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That "proprietary" plug is a JST connector, a VERY common type of connector in electronics. You can make one yourself too!

  • @jragonwriter6316
    @jragonwriter6316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pretty slick seeing you liquid cool the GPU while air cooling the CPU! Total role reversal over a lot of builds. What's your whole build fan config? And what are you getting with your clocks?

  • @ButterflySimmer
    @ButterflySimmer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I used my nitro 50 for 3 years and tbh it works great, even after upgrading my ram, not slow at all and average gaming performance. Although I know now to avoid prebuilts for future pc

    • @jukkapiispanen123
      @jukkapiispanen123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They are not all bad,they just need some tlc and ram.

    • @ButterflySimmer
      @ButterflySimmer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jukkapiispanen123 yep you're right, it's has served me well and still does now.

    • @jesusjr5364
      @jesusjr5364 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not all prebuilt are bad for example abs on Newegg

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I am really glad your system worked out for you. I’ll see how I get on with it over time.

    • @ButterflySimmer
      @ButterflySimmer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DawidDoesTechStuff thanks for commenting. 💖.

  • @Ari-pl2gn
    @Ari-pl2gn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    AK629 is a great CPU cooler, The Pricing is amazing as well!

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know right! I really like it, it also looks great. 😁

    • @Ari-pl2gn
      @Ari-pl2gn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DawidDoesTechStuff Yeah

  • @brianrussell7369
    @brianrussell7369 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dawid's videos are always edited nicely and the music is pleasant.

  • @mugglepower
    @mugglepower 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    “Running a marathon after amateur hip replacement “
    “Rabid dog equivalence of windows,
    I need this lol I need more

  • @ugzz
    @ugzz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Normally I'd say don't even bother pairing the 8GB it comes with, and just buy a faster kit of 16gb.. but in this case, just buying another 8gb of the same thing, if you can find it, would be fine.. That and reload windows and you have a decent system.. albeit overpriced for what it is..

    • @ianrobertson3419
      @ianrobertson3419 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It probably wont run 3200mts in dual channel. If you did match the original stick I would guess it downgrades to 2666 or even 2133.

    • @Rentta
      @Rentta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can just buy cheapest shit and that would be fine. You can probably get 2133 to 2666 8gig sticks for 15-20$ used or not much more for new.

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That’s what I’m going to be doing to it for my month long test. 👍

    • @dampintellect
      @dampintellect 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ram is certainly the cheapest upgrade you could make here other than maybe storage speed. It's too bad you can't get it to 3200 with the poor bios but in the case that you could a brand new 2x8gb kit is 70$. It's too bad gpus are so expensive still cause you could make this be a much better custom build for 1000$.

  • @victorhugofranciscon7899
    @victorhugofranciscon7899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The peripherals aren't really ewaste if it works it could be a backup option if the keyboard or mouse breaks. At least that is my poor boy opinion

    • @Eckx1084
      @Eckx1084 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You are right, but once you get a quality keyboard, they don't break like cheap ones, and you won't be able to stand typing on that garbage membrane keyboard either. I have an extra keyboard in my closet, but it's been there for 5 years now.

    • @Zacyz125
      @Zacyz125 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Eckx1084 can confirm. Used some e waste peripherals for like 3 years and recently switched over to some good stuff and it was life changing lol

    • @Eckx1084
      @Eckx1084 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Zacyz125 I got my kids a Razer bundle for Christmas. Keyboard, mouse, headset and mouse pad. They are membrane keyboards. Whenever I have to do something on their PC's I cringe. It feels so bad compared to my GMMK. Best $120 I ever spent, really.

    • @silure9502
      @silure9502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's ewaste. Wasted plastic and PCB that won't last and often won't be used

    • @ChrissehCat
      @ChrissehCat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right? I always keep that stuff around. In case something breaks or if you're a wireless mouse/keyboard user and the batteries die and you don't have any replacements, an old wired mouse can be a real lifesaver.
      For example, a crappy old Dell wired mouse I found in a box of new-old-stock "ewaste" saved my butt just last month when my wireless mouse's batteries pooped out at work and I didn't have any replacements. I'm a graphic designer so being without a mouse is a bad situation.

  • @xXfzmusicXx
    @xXfzmusicXx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The reason they have a sata power cable like that is because it's a 12V power supply, you don't have sata power coming out of the psu in those, you connect it to the board. That's also why there's no 24pin, but only what looks like a cpu power that goes to the board instead.

  • @perrymcclusky4695
    @perrymcclusky4695 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking forward to your month-long review on this computer!

  • @kyles8524
    @kyles8524 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the only problem with the 5600G is it only supports pci-e 3.0 even if its being ran on a 4.0 motherboard, so a video card in a 4.0 slot only runs at 3.0 speeds, that is also weird it ran at a lower ram speed.Everyone knows if you put a stick of slower ram into a computer it down clocks all ram to that slowest ram speed but Ive never actually seen it down clock it lower than the lowest ram speed. Possibly a bios update will at least bring ut up to the lower clocked ram speed

    • @ianrobertson3419
      @ianrobertson3419 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The oem mobos are pretty garbage when it comes to ram configurations. You need to match the original stick with the same speed and timings otherwise it reverts to stable minimum. However, this system might not run any ram at 3200mts in dual channel.

    • @Arminoderso
      @Arminoderso 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      you shouldnt worry about the pcie gens atm

    • @emlyndewar
      @emlyndewar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Arminoderso 6500XT says hello. 😀

    • @kyles8524
      @kyles8524 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Arminoderso you need to be cautious even the 6600XT is only on a 8x bus

  • @odenwaldquelle8228
    @odenwaldquelle8228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It's obious that the single chanel RAM was the Problem but what I would like to know ist the following:
    What difference would it have made if you put in a 8GM dual chanel set?
    Sure the game used ~12GB but games always tend to grab whats free if it comes down to RAM.

    • @conradical5941
      @conradical5941 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup
      Dual channel will have better latency and bandwidth cause of interleaving but nothing can save you from the hit when you gotta use dat Page File

  • @LabCat
    @LabCat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That SATA power connector on the motherboard is common in small-form factor industrial systems. Interesting to see it used here in a consumer-spec PC. I guess it helps with cable management since the PSU now needs fewer cables?

  • @MrGoblue1131
    @MrGoblue1131 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just found your channel and REALLY enjoy the humor along with the info. You're doing a great job man. And yes, I have subscribed and liked vids

  • @milanlilic6995
    @milanlilic6995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah about the 2133 mhz I was 100% expecting that. As someone from eastern Europe almost every time I've worked with ddr4 it would be on some hottible motherboard that wouldn't allow changing ram speed so it would be stuck at 2133, absolutely horrible.

  • @Living-gnu-64
    @Living-gnu-64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well 2133 is the base speed for DDR4 so I expected it, it is quite curious how they managed to get the single stick to run @3200 when there isn’t a bios option to enable it.

    • @DroneMee
      @DroneMee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's called JEDEC and it's (3200) the defualt speed for that particualr stick where as 2133 is the JEDEC defualt speed for most other ddr4 sticks.

    • @MrR2185
      @MrR2185 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There should be a setting in the BIOS for DOCP on the AMD boards. It will set it at the speed of the ram sticks.

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DroneMee Exactly! The whole JEDEC thing has been the bane of my existence for ages. 😁

    • @Living-gnu-64
      @Living-gnu-64 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DroneMee yeah I know what JEDEC is, but I’m pretty sure anything OVER 2133 is considered “overclocked” by them, because they don’t determine what CPU support what speeds. They just set the minimums and let manufacturers decide from there where to go.

    • @DroneMee
      @DroneMee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Living-gnu-64 seems to be that it's not OC if the default JEDEC speed is 3200mhz. Contrary to most retail ram kits for individuals building/upgrading systems. This is done (from my own observations) for mainly oem motherboards like this one (that appears to be 12v only). That's why there is no bios setting for memory oc. It is designed to be ran with ram that has only the default JEDEC speeds. It is up to the system integrator to pair with a cpu that will support the speeds of the ram they choose to us in their pre-built systems, it would appear.

  • @Elinzar
    @Elinzar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Hmm, i wonder if that 3200mhz stick of ram have that frequency as a standard JEDEC config
    Your Corsair rams although overclocked seems to be based on a JEDEC base speed of 2133mhz, because ofc it doesn't matter as you are supposed to enable XMP
    This little machine (and other pcs with basic af bios) is probably reading the SPD chip on the ram, seeing that its base JEDEC is 2133 and using that
    You wave 2 ways of fixing this, take an asus overkill mobo, cuz i believe they can allow you to write the spd chips on ram, at least my Z270 maximus Hero IX let me do that, and rewrite it with the timings you want, idk how you edit them tho so be careful with that
    Or look through your pile of single stick rams from trash pcs and get another 3200mhz, chances are these speeds are JEDEC because im pretty sure those naked sticks dont support xmp

    • @MantasNorkus
      @MantasNorkus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or just change mhz thru ryzen master

    • @Elinzar
      @Elinzar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MantasNorkus if it saves the timings and shit by all means, but if you have to always keep ryzen master open to most likely to get those timings saved is just a pita, saving it in bios means you dont have to deal with it later

  • @lordrefrigeratorintercoole288
    @lordrefrigeratorintercoole288 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love it whem Dawis talks aboyt PSÜs, CPÜ cÖÖlurs and other PC comÜnents.
    Makes my day every time 😁

  • @kimberlyH1984
    @kimberlyH1984 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i got one brand new on clearance for 500 bucks cad (last gen). stuck some more ram in it works great, been using it for 6 months now. no problems super quiet light gaming and mostly photoshop digital painting is my main use. photoshop runs great on it.

  • @theBoomerDoomer
    @theBoomerDoomer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Windows 10 on 8GB of single-channel was/is a painful experience... Windows 11 (which is basically an open beta - despite technically in general release) on 8GB of single-channel has to be something like getting every form of VD... at the same time... while having a raging case of COVID... and having your hair on fire.

    • @LAM_G80085
      @LAM_G80085 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol you say win 10 on 8 gig is a painfull experience wait till you see my laptop that had win 10 on 4 gig of ddr3 ram

  • @AnnaDoes
    @AnnaDoes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Am I special now?

    • @vinylSummer
      @vinylSummer ปีที่แล้ว

      You are, Anna

    • @Kipe._
      @Kipe._ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "Is Anna special now?"
      "Yes, AnnaDoes"

  • @Erdie5
    @Erdie5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bet it'll be okay! I mean, you definitely corrected the main issue needing to be corrected.
    Unless it has one of those audio drivers that goes rogue and uses the entirety of your RAM or some nonsense.

  • @T.C
    @T.C 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It amazes me how a random person can watch a couple TH-cam videos and build a better pc than what a billion dollar company with lots of employees can do

    • @roowut
      @roowut 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i mean companies will cheap out anything they can to save money while most people won’t be able to do the same

    • @xtremezone987
      @xtremezone987 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@roowut Well their not really saving any money. Their actually losing money in the long run cuz once people know how they operate they go elsewhere next time.

    • @roowut
      @roowut 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xtremezone987 think about the type of people these computers are typically made for. people who don’t know a lot about computers buy these because it’s the easiest way of getting a pc. they therefore won’t notice a lot of the things that prebuilts cheap out on because to them it’s normal

  • @buggiesindustries7550
    @buggiesindustries7550 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How can they possibly sell these as "gaming" when they still use bios from literally over 20 years ago 😱

  • @LegionShade
    @LegionShade 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just love the sarcasm in your videos. I do have to be cautious because it is contagious…
    Sort of like system integrators using a single stick of RAM.

  • @HR-wd6cw
    @HR-wd6cw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have that same processor, and I can't see myself putting anything less than, say, the CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus/Evo on it for cooling. I
    mean that's the minimum I would use (that's what I use in my build, but I also have a full tower case with plenty of fans so it keeps it cool and
    I suspect the OEM AMD fan would have worked too as I don't overclock my system). Speaking of proprietary connectors, I had a few HP
    computers that were like that. Had one that could hold (4) 3.5" drives, but the sata power cables had to be plugged into the motherboard (and
    the motherboard used a 20 pin connector, not a 24 pin) but did have the 4-pin 12V connector (as most PCs do). The computer even had (4) SATA
    ports but as to why it only had power support for two devices puzzles me. Of course I could have gotten some SATA power Y-cables I guess.
    But it just seemed to be too many compromises for no real reason. It also used some proprietary connectors that went to the motherboard, basically making an aftermarket replacement not possible.
    I think the biggest complaint I would have is the price. I think that it would be possible to build this same system (with the 8GB of RAM) for a little less and get better components. I mean you can find the Ryzen 5600G opn sale for around $200, 8GB of RAM is probably something like $50 or $75. 500GB SSD is maybe $100 for a good one, Power Supply maybe $100, case $50, and Windows for around $130. Video card may be the one gamble as you may have to pay upwards of $300 for the 1650 now (used to be as cheap as $200).

  • @lootbag2405
    @lootbag2405 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your sense of humor and comments are hilarious and catch me by surprise every damn time

  • @williampinnock2256
    @williampinnock2256 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking forward to seeing how long you can stick it, rubber up!

  • @DreWhite_TheDadJoker
    @DreWhite_TheDadJoker 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just knew you were going to test with more RAM later, it had to be done! GJ

  • @SynthetickRS
    @SynthetickRS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:52 That "Below" sounded suspiciously like "Linode" well played Dawid. XD

  • @TheKristian76
    @TheKristian76 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The king of naming conventions, I crown thee Dawid! 😊 Always enjoy your videos!

  • @Zarashand
    @Zarashand 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    not seen your videos before but you're a funny man. Subscribed

  • @TheOneAndOnlyRandy
    @TheOneAndOnlyRandy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love all of the snarky and sarcastic analogies

  • @goober2943
    @goober2943 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm getting a 10900K and I was looking for a fan to cool it, I saw that fan and immediately went to the description and bought it, hopefully it works out!

  • @phiwolgast
    @phiwolgast 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the SATA power connector coming from the motherboard means that the power supply and mobo are 12VO, which would be the first time I've seen it in the wild. Neat!

  • @VaxVex
    @VaxVex 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a similar system like that nitro suckface edition . Im using it to this day and it is an almost 10 years old rig . It served me well but finally i will get a gpu in a couple of month for my new build . Yeah the system has many problems but its use able . But yeah David comparing to your main setup this acer build will test your mind and patients in many ways . Thank you for the video keep up the good work and a excellent quality of your channel. :)

  • @joshb6470
    @joshb6470 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope your next video is comparing the home colonoscopy kits you spoke of, I wonder what e-waste they come with

  • @wolfydan121
    @wolfydan121 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    tbh just be happy they give them to you free if your on a tight budget that helps a lot and now you have a spare just in case

  • @noodle_Cx
    @noodle_Cx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I fricking love your content btw

  • @HaydenX
    @HaydenX 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A home colonoscopy kit could be a lot of fun to use...imagine just watching the monitor as you use a joystick to wiggle a camera around in your colon: "Oooohhh...polyp 360 noscope!". An e-waste keyboard is just gonna wreck your day, your week, your month, or even your year...especially if you are used to a mech keyboard.

  • @volkswagenginetta
    @volkswagenginetta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    if this were my computer i would try to find the very specific module thats in there and purchase the exact same one. maybe it hits the rated speeds that way, and its cheaper to get a matching kit even if you spend more for the single stick (say 30 bucks for 1 stick vs 45 for 2)

  • @JacobJosephVanStraten
    @JacobJosephVanStraten 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You always know how to make people laugh . Great video and keep up the good work 👍

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      you know you got some premo hardware when it gives you a lower number and lower performance then your expecting from it

  • @jaydude25
    @jaydude25 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    whenever I get bored I think: I wonder if dawid has a new vid, and every time he has never failed to deliver lol

  • @paulm3079
    @paulm3079 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey now, the moment I get a PC or work on one I'm looking for those BIOS screens...back in '02 that was what you had and they worked just fine! Last build I did was AMD's first Athlon x64 so I am due for a refresh...I miss that Radeon 9800 pro...what a card...MOHAA forever!

  • @kittyztigerz
    @kittyztigerz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ha cant wait to see more (hoping it cures you more) lol
    hey havent seen different with cooler tamp? did it increase heat after ram swap?

  • @emerson-biggons7078
    @emerson-biggons7078 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw this video exactly a month after release. Perfect!

  • @KOSMOS1701A
    @KOSMOS1701A 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have the intel version of their Nitro 5 laptop, the AN515-5700. Not only was it cheaper than this at sub 1,100 USD, but its also better in nearly every way, it would be interesting to see a comparison between this and that.

  • @tw1tch09
    @tw1tch09 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dawid please never stop posting videos about your zany tech adventures.

  • @4GamerSNeXiZ
    @4GamerSNeXiZ ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought an acer nitro pc when I was younger and was also negatively surprised with the performance and the stability of the pc. On the top of that my SSD just broke after 2-3 weeks of usage and I couldn't even boot the pc. Keep in mind that at that time and age I didn't even knew how to open a PC, so I just send it to the experts for repair since I still had warranty.
    Funnely enough after 2 months of wait time it came back and I don't know if they even tested it but after I booted the pc it still wouldn't boot, so I just went back to the store demanding a refund and they told me they couldn't do anything but just send it back to repair. So that's what they did, it came back 2 months later and still didn't work.
    Since then I never bought something from Acer and just went for a custom build pc which still stands till today.

  • @kennycarter5682
    @kennycarter5682 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool I got a similar model and same background for mine... only issue I have is loud fans on mid games... other then that I'm fairly content

  • @Keullo-eFIN
    @Keullo-eFIN 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1000th like from here, these prebuilt PC videos are best!

  • @RealSteveStevenson
    @RealSteveStevenson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Acer bios usually automatically enable X.M.P profiles on ram but only specific ones seem to work properly. I had an Acer laptop that enabled xmp without any bios changes

  • @rickeutsler3814
    @rickeutsler3814 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey there.. on your ram upgrade.. try getting some 3200 ram that runs at 1.2v. HP and Lenovo do the same thing (although the new HP Omen Bios update allows for XMP finally). You may find that if you use ram that runs native 3200 at 1.2v vs needing XMP and 1.35v, you get the benefit of the faster ram without needing to mess with the bios..
    Cheers
    Rick

  • @newCrysis
    @newCrysis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content. Waiting on the new update.

  • @cracked8292
    @cracked8292 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey dawid! You should also review Acer Predator Orion 3000 from best buy! With the price about $1999 CAD

  • @wimberlytwins
    @wimberlytwins 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seems like you could probably put a mini ITX board in there
    Sleeper gaming pc perhaps?

  • @Machine1136
    @Machine1136 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking forward to the Alma carnage! (and maybe your efforts to recover from it?)

  • @stephenkennedy6358
    @stephenkennedy6358 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It looks like the power supply is only delivering 12v.That would explain why you hooked up the Sata power connector to the motherboard. The motherboard is where the voltage conversion is taking place.

  • @stipi6996
    @stipi6996 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching your videos makes me miss my old quad extreme with ddr2 running 2x gtx 480 in sli making me broke because of electricity bills 🙂

  • @charginginprogresss
    @charginginprogresss ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10:01 Any BIOS I ever got, even on my new pc, even after installing an update from 10 days ago, looks like this.
    And nope, the legacy mode option is either inexistent or disabled.
    Welcome to laptop bios.

  • @NecroFlex
    @NecroFlex 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The part i find funny is that it already has one of those sata power cables in it already...both used to power the LEDs...both, not one, but both, because we all know that LEDs are notorious for being power hungry.
    Not only that, it has an additional 2 proprietary sata power headers on the board, which means 2 sata power cables each with 2 sata connectors for a total of 4 sata power connectors, all the while only having 2 disk rails AND only 2 sata data ports on the actual board itself. (another potential sata port could be soldered next to the ram slots, it has pads for it, but that's still 3 out of 4)

  • @hamodebokhamsen5689
    @hamodebokhamsen5689 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video. Is there an update video somewhere?

  • @khemiriadam7896
    @khemiriadam7896 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have a similar bios and i can access its menu features by holding: Right Shift + Right CTRL + ALT + F2

  • @denlvr5606
    @denlvr5606 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video as always! What is the software that you are using for the hardware measurements

  • @jragonwriter6316
    @jragonwriter6316 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving that Deep Cool AK620! Thanks for showing it in your personal rig. Do you figure to keep rolling with it? Or is it just in there for a promo?

  • @tomitmk7501
    @tomitmk7501 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Out of the blue. Music playing in your videos when you presenting pc before tests is quite similar to track from old game Dath Rally. Is it?

  • @keancv
    @keancv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved the video. I'm surprised that it is not common kinowledge by now that new PCs are hamstrung by accountants that won't allow the extra to pay for 2 of 8GB memory that would sharply cut returns. Best Buy to me looks to be a bare face lie, best avoided more like. Yes I'd be interested in you trying the not best buy pc for a month

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 ปีที่แล้ว

      windows 11 has the new version of rabes installed inside of it

  • @MSmith-Photography
    @MSmith-Photography 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've got the previous gen Nitro 50 and I don't use it for gaming. I was aware it'd be a low-end "gaming" PC and use it for photo and video editing, which does a decent job. Of course, I have upgraded the RAM to get it to that level.

  • @tomb3782
    @tomb3782 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    DAMN DAWID! Is that chisel I see in the background because those arms cut!

  • @ffwast
    @ffwast 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel like I've seen that case appear as a villain in a children's saturday morning cartoon.

  • @bjn714
    @bjn714 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those v8.31 Corsair DIMMs are Nanya a-die. The only DIMMs that Corsair sells that include a higher speed base JEDEC profile are those with Micron ICs (v3.xx), which will run at 2666 (if the system is capable, or the next highest included JEDEC profile if it isn't, which is why you may see 2400 on systems that support 2400 max at JEDEC). Corsair kits with Samsung, Hynix, & Nanya (v4.xx, v5.xx & v8.xx, respectively) don't include any other intermediate JEDEC profiles between the base 2133 and XMP profiles.

  • @crispianchealuks2024
    @crispianchealuks2024 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Greg's fix or flop series had a pc from best buy prebuilt with a lemon nvme, started failing after 7months of use

  • @LaurentiusTriarius
    @LaurentiusTriarius 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No ish I found one at the recycling center, the front suck face panel was a bit smashed up but working fine, I think it's a 2021. Someone got scared of the gremlins and the exorcism didn't work ...

  • @pierregrobbelaar9116
    @pierregrobbelaar9116 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always say it is what it is.I have a ryzen 5 2600 with a gtx 1070 ti but the most fun i had playing games was with my FX 4170 and gtx 1050ti.It may be because i am really buy with work now but personally i still love my lil ol FX.She's been running for close to 10 years and i never had problems with her.

  • @wizardwithsmg4753
    @wizardwithsmg4753 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I recently picked up a AMD Ryzen based laptop, and it came with single 8gb stick. It only has the built in GPU, it's a Vega 7 I think, and it could barely run any games. I managed to find an identical 8gb stick, and after install it can actually play games. Forza Horizon 5 went from unplayable to a steady 30fps at medium low settings for example. It's so important not only for the CPU but using an APU based GPU it's basically required. I know it's not a gaming laptop, but that $25 stick of ram made it so much better. 8gb might be enough but not in single channel sheesh.