How Is Gaming On An 8-Year-Old PC In 2023?
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I try gaming on an 8 year old PC to see how it holds up today.
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Man, I love those old, gamer-aggressive cases. That was back when case companies didn't really care so much about thermals because aesthetics were top dog. Then again, back then parts didn't get nearly as hot as they do now. These days they can't get away with ignoring thermals because phrases like "space heater", and "house fire" come up at every design meeting, lol.
Imma be honest, they could sell that today and I wouldn’t have known it was a design from 2015😂
My aging 8700K would like to disagree with you lol
Its hot even with a decent 240mm AiO.
Still has better airflow than an Alienware 😂👍🏻
@@black_baguette I agree, it’s also made of surprisingly good materials. It’s held up super well.
@@Adrianwe44 LMAO, so true. Each Alienware should come with a BDSM safe word with all the choking it does.
the graphics card and the specs holds up well regardless of how old it is, i'm honestly impressed
A 22 year old pc would like to say otherwise 😂
Not well enough for Windows 11, lol
@@AndersHass Windows 11 can install easily on anything that can run 10. I installed it on an old 4th gen i5 and it runs perfectly
@@laur6405yeah but you you probably aren’t gaining on it
@@drew2626 I actually tested it with the games that were known to run ok on it with 10 and it's the same performance with 11. As long as you got 8GB of ram minimum everything works exactly the same. I tested this on many older computers just to see what they can do and it's fine. Also tested it on 2nd gen i7,AMD FX,I7 7th gen,Intel Core 2 Quad...they can all handle it
What a beast the 1070 was. 8 years is quite a while. Add a well optimised game like RE4R and you can easily still do 1080p60 medium-low today. And FSR2 does help in a pinch.
I still use the 1070 for mostly-high settings gaming
Unfortunately I have a blower card, so it sounds like a permanent wind storm whenever I’m gaming
My good old 1070ti build from 6 years ago is still a decent 1080p gaming PC today but I've been using it as a media center for a while now since I've built myself a new one.
I'll be passing down the old PC to my lil bro soon since he just graduated and is in need of a PC to work and game on but has no money to build one.
It wasn't exactly a beast, but it was very decent, had (uncharacteristically for Nvidia) plenty of ram and was affordable (I still remember you could get it for almost as low as $300 around Black Friday 2016)
When I saw that it was 8 yrs old, it made ME feel old lol considering I still use one.
The GTX 10 series were definitely the most beautiful Founders Edition ever. BTW, you don't have to remove the entire shroud to repaste. There's a few screws that holds down just the heatsink & window part of it that'll give you access to the die without taking out that many screws.
I love the 30 series founder edition cards. So clean. I love minimalism.
for me, the RTX 20 Super cards were the best looking FE cards (ignoring the fact that they were apparently horrible to work on).
The 700 and 900 cards had a simple design without being overly edgy. 8but the cooler wasn't that great in a well ventilated case, in some tight OEM case maybe fine, typical blower cooler) The 10 series went a bit too far for me, the 20 series went a step back and was more understated again and the 30 and 40 cards look very industrial.
And the 8800 GT back in the day looked amazing. So much power in such a small and sleek package. Sadly the cooler didn't do that well in terms of cooling.
And good design out weighs flashy RGB garbage I like the minimalist looks of older 10 series cars card especially the black titan card that thing is nice
The 10 series of cards was the best ever , nobody can change my mind of that. They hold up quite well all these years later.
I would argue that the Geforce 4 Ti (especially the 4200) and the 8800 (especially the GT) deserve to be in the GPU hall of fame. The Ti 4200 offered amazing performance and did not only beat the FX 5200 but also the 6200 with no problems. And the 8800 GT came at a midrange price but offered highend performance. I don't see a 4080 Super at the price of a 4060 Ti anywhere.
True - I used gt 8800 from Dec 2007 to Dec 2017 it cost me 260$ brand new - inagine 4080 cost 260$ now.7@@HappyBeezerStudios
4:25 "Then we can install all our own VD on it"
Laughed so hard at this.
Finally a video I can relate to. I'm still rocking an i5-6500 and GTX 1660 Super. It still runs everything I need it to, so I don't plan to upgrade anytime soon. I'm not generally into twitchy games anyway, so a little lower framerate is fine with me.
I bought a 1650ti ryzen 4600H laptop just an year ago and am pretty happy for now.
Its my first device w/ dedicated gpu with my 1st salary and i don't get much time to play since graduation 😞
This. First rule when thinking of upgrading is "Does my current system do what I want it to?". If yours does, then carry on rocking! Way too much of the tech influencer scene is people selling you high end stuff the vast majority don't actually need. Which is why I like Dawid, it's clearly good fun entertainment rather than buying advice
@@peterwstacey Exactly. There is always the "do I need to upgrade if I want to do [that], and what do I need for it" and there is the "how much money am I willing to spend and how much can I get for it"
@@peterwstacey Lol I acknowledge I don’t need to upgrade but I do it because it’s fun and it’s my hobby. If it was a matter of need, I’d still be on my old i7-8700 and GTX 1060 6GB. But now I’m rocking a 14900K and 4090, planning to sell off the 14900K and buy the KS when its out, just for fun. Gonna love tweaking that chip.
Ran this config for years! The 6700 still does OK, popped it in a system with a 1650 to sell to a friend and he's very happy with it :)
Hell I have an i7 6700k and 2070 super paired together in my old machine and it does just fine.
@@demonzero677how does that dark ages quad core not bottleneck the 2070?
It does very heavily.
Great! I’m glad your friend is enjoying that system. 😃
bruh I just did the same but I installed a 580 and gave it to my friend. Dude sends me a clip of him playing beamng driving a truck and slams into 10 cars and then does a thumbs up which I guess equates to him being happy about it
up until recently I was still using an i5 4690 and a GTX 1070 🤣 it's surprising how usable a decade old PC is in 2023
the 1070 was a great card
i have a laptop with a 1070mq. they actually used a die for a 1070ti so the 'mq' would have the same performance even though its a lower wattage than a 1070 mobile. also, 10 series had the closest performance to desktop variants being on average only 10% away from the full size. these days the laptop '90' is more like a desktop 60 series
4th gen will always hold a special place in my heart. I’ve been using 4th gen cpu’s in my pc since 2015, starting with a i5 4440, now a xeon e5-2667 v2, which is still 4th gen. Oh, and also my parents pc has a i7 4790 so that’s pretty interesting. I don’t think that cpu has been above 10% utilization in years.
Still using same spec. I5-4690k and a gtx1070😅
i just upgraded from an i5 4770 and a gtx 960 it was great for the older games and i played cyber punk at low with about 35fps im now using it as my internet surfing and its great for you tube and watching streams at 1440
Mom, David bought another pre-built again.
Those Bioses used to have a hidden advance mode to unlock some features like ram speed (under "overclock" conditions, which is perfectly safe...)
They do and they're terrifying. There's usually some funky function key sequence to unlock it.
It would be so much fun to see Dawid mess around with that.
oh wow! im happy to see that the 10 series is still usable! its so amazing! great work on the vid Dawid!
one of my older PCs - 3770K+980Ti still holds well for modest gaming :)
and my current setup - 5820K+1080Ti can still handle ultrawide 1440p (with FSR in recent games)
Seeing your title I gotta add that I am currently watching this video with a 20 ish year old PC. Dell Dimensions 9150 running a Pentium D processor.
I've curated this and running Linux Lite and it holds up, watching your videos in 1080p.
Having lots of fun watching your videos so keep them coming!
Happy holidays too, Dawid!
The case looks cool!
No surprise because according to Steam hardware survey two of the top cards being used recently are the 1660 or 1060.
bro big fan of your crazy tech videos about computers love your video
I'm on a similar setup at the moment, finally upgrading and I can't wait.
10-series cards are 8 years old... fuck. Feels like they came out yesterday.
im still usin a 1070ti lol
Hey, I emailed you suggesting this prebuilt for your "Dawid vs prebuilt looser PCs" series. Seeing this video brought me instant joy! :)))
Awesome video my dood! I upgraded my PC and gave my GF my old build that has the same i7 - 1070 combo. She mostly plays The Sims 4 with a million mods. I am happy my old PC got a new owner.
9:43. That max memory speed that's listed in the CPU specs is a guarantee that any CPU can run memory at that speed, (Intel/AMD would owe you a free CPU replacement if your CPU couldn't run memory at that speed).That also means that any memory speed above that is considered as overclocking the memory controller, and it's outside of that guarantee. So, on a motherboard that doesn't support XMP/memory overclocking, the highest memory frequency you can run is the one that's listed in the CPU specs. That 3200Mhz JEDEC kit would run at 3200Mhz in recent prebuilts since recent CPUs can run at 3200MHz without overclocking.
As for the best looking stock card, I really love the look of Titan RTX
please upload more often i enjoy the content a lot
I dig the case a lot. Something tells me that the motherboard is standard mini ITX and perhaps you can rig your own shroud to combine with a 92mm tower cooler to replace the OG CPU cooler
That does a lot. Could even go more ghetto and just use a paor (or three) fans on it. I did that with my 8800 GT back in the day and got temps down by 30°C on the stock single slot cooler.
I'd doubt that with the upside down PCI-E slot.
Completely agree about Pascal era cards being the best Founder's Edition cards, aesthetics wise. For Blower Cards, they definitely take the crown
The utilization issues in GTA 5 are almost certainly due to being single thread bound on the main game thread. 3700 Mhz on a Skylake core just isn't enough to push any higher, despite the cpu as a whole still having unused multi thread capacity.
CPU hovers around 65-70% during the test, that is about 5-6 of the available 8 threads. Feels about right. Performance is still good. Frametime graph is pretty smooth and framerate stays above 60. A higher clock (in the usual 4.3-4.7 GHz basically all the chips from Sandybridge to Skylake can do) would help, but isn't really neccesary. On the other hand, there is still some GPU headroom, so downsampling or going up to 1440p
Interesting to see that machine show up here since it's kind of the small brother of what I built from mostly used parts.
I'm also running an i7 6700 but with a 1080 ti FE that has been converted to be cooled by a 280mm AiO (the blower cooler is terrible in terms of noise and performance), 32GB of ram and a Samsung 980 pro.
Can't really complain about it's performance in things other than the craziest new releases.
Thanks so much for doing this one. I don't have this Lenovo system specifically, but I've been using the same pair of the 6700 / GTX1070 in my system for years now. I ran into exactly the same problem with RAM, the system is limited to 2133MHZ. I upgraded recently from 16gb to 32gb because a few modern games (Wonderlands, Baldur's Gate) were really getting into RAM limitation issues.
The big benefit of this setup is the balance. As noted, the CPU / GPU are extremely well-paired with one another, and it's rare to max out the GPU without the CPU coming close. This means that the setup has lasted a long time and really maximized usability of the components.
Unfortunately, the big problem with this setup is upgradability - the CPU / GPU / MB are all so well-paired with one another that there isn't really room to upgrade one without running into the limitations of the others, and the only real upgrade path left is to sell the system in a craigslist knife-fight and build a new one altogether.
Interesting how i7-6700 / GTX 1070 is so well balanced, while i5-3570K (with oc) / GTX 1060 is CPU limited.
i really like the lay out of components in this case. very nice craigslist pick
There’s usually a way to enter a more advanced menu in the bios that lets you adjust the ram frequency. I can’t remember it off the top of my head but my hp prebuilt had the same thing and I had to hold like ctrl and press f10 or something to enter the advanced menu for the bios where I was able to set my ram to 3600mhz
Props for the length
I had an i7 4790K with a 1070 until last year. Absolutely held up with 60+fps like a trooper.
im genuinely impressed by the build quality of this system for a prebuilt. nothing really looked proprietary inside so thats a win.
I had a 6600k and GTX 1070 FE back in the day, I am actually really surprised on how well this system held up. Temps on the 1070 are normal, that was just the way they were. This was back before anyone had discovered the benefits of undervolting so I just gamed with headphones.
Good looking case... from some angles.
The 1080 is classic for a reason. I’m surprised such an old kit held up so well!
Happy Xmas to you and Anna bro.
I'm running a setup even older than this: An i7 4790k on a Z90P motherboard with 32GB of 1600mhz DDR3 and until recently a 1080 Founders Edition and with similar settings, I get similar performance to what you found, It even handled MS Flight 2020 reasonably well. I recently upgraded to a 12GB RTX3060 which I'm sure I'm not getting the full benefit from but still quite an Improvement.
Great content
I love the old machine, especially the look of it.
I daily drove the ATX precursor (Ideacentre Y700) to this pc with an I5-6400 and a GTX 960 for years. held up nicely
Dawid, The only thing I hate about your videos is that they aren't longer.
This video was exactly 13:37. I think that was intentional :-)
I actually really like that case!
I wonder if Dawid could build a newer system in there?
I bought a used 1080ti a few years ago. Noticed it was a bit loud and running a bit warm. Repasted the card and temps dropped over 10c and fan speed nearly dropped by half. It didn't perform any better really as it still wasn't quite thermal throttling, but it was a hell of a lot quieter, and gave me some good headroom for OC.
This case is actually pretty sweet. I wonder if you can just straight up pull out the mobo and put it your own and cooler. It matches the same exact color scheme of the "innocn" monitors on amazon with the glowing red eyes and such. I want this case now.
Big props to Lenovo and the knife fighter you defeated. The system held up well.
It's funny because i was gaming on a 8 year old PC just earlier this year. Still handled most games other than new AAA titles pretty well.
Looks amazing as a case design, tbh.
Its pretty cool seeing this old hardware get benchmarked. Im still using the same old system I've mostly unupgraded for years now. I'm getting solid 1080p performance off my I5 4690K and an RX 580 8Gb model.
Holy hell. That uptime @4:29 is crazy! Roughly 5 months. That's wild!
I had this 8 years ago but with the gtx1080. Still use it tdy, js changed the case, ram, n power supply. Still works great
I like this channel.. good presentation 👌 good balanced content 👌 love it 👌
Yeah the 1070FE needs the fan curve ramped up. The blower can move a ton of air, it's just louder than a 3 axial fan solution. Can usually get +150~200core/+500mem out of it too.
I kinda dig the case hope we get an update and place current gen hardware on that case.
Same. I wanna see him bring it into this decade.
During the initial dark ages of Covid, when all graphics cards were worth their weight in gold, I was building an audio workstation/gaming machine. 16 cores/32 threeads, 64gb of ram, super-fast storage...just a glorious machine. But, I had to reuse a pair of 1080 graphics cards in SLI. I used that setup for 2 years, and it played games surprisingly well.
Really similar to my little mITX beast - 6700K and GTX 1080 Founders Edition still going strong almost 8 years later!
That case looks sick id like to build in it. 😃
I'm still running a i7 6700, with a RTX 3060 and it plays most games no problem. One day I'll go above 4 cores. 😅 Great vid Dawid and Merry Christmas.
Hi David, great video. These things are still surprisingly good today, given their age. Moreover, the 1070 and the 1080 tune very nicely. 8 out of 10 will run with +100MHz curve on stock volts, i.e at 1995, where yours was pegged at 1860. Just a few clicks in the Afterburner :)
Yup, I run my 1060 on +140 MHz for 2114 MHz boost and +625 on the memory for 9244 MT/s
If you like small form factor gaming PCs, there's the Asus G20CB. It has an Intel I7 6700, 16GB of RAM and a GTX 980. There is also the Asus G20CI with a GTX 10 series graphic card.
Merry christmas :)
I have subscribed just for the way you said HDD!
Damn that's almost my identical specs like 6 years ago. It's since been sold but the parts are still being used daily
Your channel is the only one I don't fast forward through the sponsor plugs
I have a similar ASUS PC from that time with an i7-6700, upgraded to a RTX 2070 and it runs great still!
11:40 WIdow Maker lol
these small lines are the reason i watch dawid
I feel like 8 years old PC isn't that old, at the latest it's the 6th gen intel which somehow I still think it's fairly new. At the very least I didn't feel like they are as old as how I feel for LGA 775 platform back in 2014. I don't know why.
Also, it's not 8 years old, as the 1070 only came out 7 years ago.
@@HenrySomeonethe CPU, case, motherboard and likely RAM were all stock to the 8 year old pc, just because a seller modified it with a 7 year old Card doesn’t change the overall age of the PC
The jump from 775 to intel 4xxx is enormous. This was achieved by A.S.M.L. tech, who intel screwed over or at least thought they could do without. Hence intel got stuck for 5 years and today we reap the benefit of their slow down.
@@drew2626 That PC came with the 1070! Next time check your facts, "pal".
@@HenrySomeone got proof Bub?
For these kind of tests, especially with weird or cross-period configurations it would be great to add utilization on the result screen. GPU and CPU (total and individual cores, because a single thread can be the limit even of there is still CPU free on the other cores)
God jul och gott nytt år. From Sweden
I built a mITX Strix board with a 6700K, strix 1070, 16GB of DDR4 2400 and an SF650 in a Fractal Node case and it works great for a LOT of games. I'm not playing Cyberpunk at 4k but SWTOR, MWO, Stray, DA Inquisition and a lot of last gen and older games run amazing (at 1080) I keep it at the PC shop I work at and play on it every day with no regerts. And YES, the ram speed is limited to 2133 with the 6th gen, even with a high end strix board.
I had a system with a 1070 and an i7 2600k with a massive cooler and overclocked to hell. I really loved it as the 2nd gen i7 with oc basically performs something like a 6th gen i7 stock.
Still my favourite pc config that I ever owned.
Picked up a comp with 6700k 1080 plus 16gb ram a year back and my daughter uses it....very happy and its quite snappy...1500swedish crowns which is nothing these days
Re-pasted my 1080 FE a couple of times when I had mine.
Just so you know, you don't have to fully disassemble the card.
You can remove the shroud on top of the heatsink. From there you can remove and clean the heatsink and get access the the die itself. All in all, maybe 16 screws?
It's pretty quick believe it or not 😅.
ive got one of these and upgraded it with an i3 12100F, it shreds
How about a follow up. What’s a decent gpu upgrade on this system without replacing the mobo. And cpu upgrade with an aftermarket cooler. Maybe vent mods on the system? Would be cool to see if the system could play todays games with a small budget
I love that this video is 13:37 in length.
oh wow thats my old pc, had the version with 1080 from 2016 to 2022. college times went quick...
Love the case, would totally build something more modern in it
i had one of those gpus. great piece of hardware. a real workhorse. you didnt need to remove all those screws for repasting though
omg this was my first gaming pc in 2017, i really wanted to play h1z1 and this done the job! res 7 was so good on it aswell. but mine had a rx 480 lol
I like how the gpu power connector isn't seated properly and still hasn't melted.
I just upgraded from a 12 year old PC, a 4.4ghz 3770K.. and tbh it's pretty capable and not that bad for gaming still. I did upgrade the graphics card one time though from a GTX 570 to 1070. And I'm still using the 1070 in my new build till the new Nvidia series cards come out.
Un buen video, si señor, una lástima lo limitado de la velocidad de la ram, molesta que limiten eso de fábrica y siquiera se pueda actualizar con otro bios. Por otro lado, larga vida a Lenovo!
Merry Christmas Dawid!
I'm pretty impressed with the aggressive design even if it's a bit corny. Thermals weren't terrible either, not bad!
4:49 herdoedoe😂 I bought a HP minipc for desktop use but then ended up connecting a GTX1070 to it with a ADT-link M.2 to PCie adapter. HDPlex 250W passively cooled PSU for the GPU. Also modded a overkill-size heatpipe cooler the the CPU to keep it real silent and cool (i7-7700T). Installed the cooler thru a hole made into the PC case. The whole system built into a few liter aluminium rack. Really surprised how it handles the games, even pretty new ones.
I ran a 6700K and GTX 1070 until earlier this year, when I got a 3070. Still rocking the 6700K, since the motherboard I ordered never showed up.
Thank you, AMD🙏
ooo same as my pc i am gonna enjoy this
lol i have the same specs, still holding on to this lil beast
This PC has the pretty much the same specs as my first DIY system I built back in 2016, the only major difference is mine had a 6600k instead of the 6700. I've upgraded it since then but the 6600k still lives on in my Plex NAS.
I had a 1070 for many years, brilliant card that punched way above its weight!
I built my main rig 11 years ago lmao. Still plays most new games on high settings. The 3070 does most of the lifting, but that's still 3 years old and mid-grade.
Still have around a pc from this era. Interesting watch.
The ad spots are always worth watching on the channel 😂
you should try the Ancient map in CS2. Its much harder for older systems. The 1070 will actually struggle a bit.
13:09 This is why I went amd this time around. Just got an RX 6800 and it's amazing.
The Founder's Edition cards during the 9 and 10 series Nvidia GTX era did look pretty frackin' cool. Those old 4-core 8-thread chips (Haswell and newer) do hold up better than expected for gaming. Maybe there was something to 22nm+++... /s
that's basically my computer (though a 7700K instead). Works great. My 1070 has definitely been my longest lasting gfx card