Warlord Games Epic ACW. My thoughts
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ม.ค. 2021
- This is a video response to Ken’s video about these minis and my thoughts on them.
Here’s a link to Ken’s video.
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Here’s a link to the video with the Kallistra comparison
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Beautiful painting! One of the most useful and intelligent discussions on these miniatures that I have seen so far Leon! Very helpful! Looking forward to seeing the Kallistra minis when you get them. Very tempting...
Thanks Dan. As soon as I get the Kallistra ones I’ll get some painted up and do a comparison. I’m looking forward to seeing what comes along next for this range. I might even attempt to build some buildings and stuff for it.
Great vid. Really nice description of the size and options. Glad there is a company that has the options for command. As always love the paint job.
Cheers Tim. Just got the big box today. Lots of painting ahead of me now lol
Very good paint job on these little figures. They look great, Leon. A really big unit of figures.
Impressive this amount. A lot of work but the result compensates for all the work!
Greetings, Joachim
Thanks buddy. They’re the smallest minis I’ve ever painted. I think on mass in a big army they’ll look brilliant
Excellent Analysis!
I went all in with the large bundle and looking forward to getting stuck in!
Brilliant idea regarding the 3 base units: that was my original take and watching this vid. confirmed it.
Thanks J P.
Nice. I was tempted with that one just for the scenery.
Yeah I’ll do a comparison of the these minis against the Kallistra when I get them
Really nice conversions with the union forage caps. Great job , like your videos and subscribed to your channel.
Thanks for the sub my friend 😊
Awesome figures, love the look "in tight rows", most impressive mass effect!!
Thanks Phil. Yeah they do look good I. The massed ranks
Really nice work Leon! The figures look great! The basing is excellent.
Thanks Vic. Never painted anything this small before
Thank you for saying "Stanley Knife".I've had people look at me crossed-eyed when I've said it.
You've done a really good job on these guys. Very good criticism on the officer's arm and the cannon crews. I hope Warlord is listening to you when they move forward with this scale
Hahaha yep, good old Stanley. It’s a pity they didn’t already think about this when they were doing the sculpts. I suppose that’s what happens when you get non gamers designing things. I’m going to start work in earnest on my ACW rules adaption now as well.
Your painting is amazing. Great stuff on such a small scale!
Thanks buddy
Nice looking figs, Like the idea of shaving hats so much I am going to use it also. Outstanding idea.
Thanks buddy. Yes it definitely works for the union. Makes them look a lot more uniform.
Nice job Leon. I have to say it never occurred to me to use all the elements as one unit, I would do the same as you. One thing which might work is what we do in our 15mm ACW games, we have units the same number of bases as the stamina of the unit. Works well.
Thanks Dom. Yes I think I’ve seen this on one of your bat reps or on one of your videos. That’s a good idea indeed
Thanks for the video. Tempted by these and you are right - the 3 stand option looks solid for an impressive battle on a 6x4.
Thanks G P.
Yeah the footprint of 5 bases is way to big.
Thank you for the wonderful review and painted examples. Your painting & basing skills never disappoint. Thanks for sharing with us my friend. It just occurred to me that these Warlord figures are actually the old Wargames Factory sculpts. The mounted cavalry figures match my old mounted Celts Cavalry box set from Wargames Factory. These would appear to be the same sculpts, probably done at least a decade ago before Warlord bought them out. I definitely think it's the same sculptor.
I don't thing Wargames Factory ever got around to releasing them all of those years ago. This might explain some of the shortcomings to the detail of these figures, since Warlord resurrected them. Any thoughts on this my friend?
I think you’re spot on. I wouldn’t be surprised if the next release will be Celts against Romans. Probably sometime next year would be my guess.
Nicely painted Leon and interesting thoughts / review. I think three bases look just as good as you said, I’m not convinced on these figures yet though, the plastics seem blobby on the sprue. 👍😁.
Thanks buddy. I wasn’t sold on them either when I first saw them but they’ve grown on me. With the 3 bases I can play this at home quite easily in a small space. Do some bat reps using my Rules
Very good video and discussion. I began collecting Newline Designs 20mm ACW years ago which look great and a lot of variance to choose. But, way too large for these guys. You did a great job being so small 👍🏼
Thanks Michael. Newline do make some nice minis
Great looking paint up of the figures. Very cool ideas for them .
Thanks buddy
Great overview Leon. As expected, these do look great painted and based. Very tempting but just not sure I want to get into ACW at another scale right now. Definitely something that could become a project later on though. Who knows?
Thanks mate. I wasn’t going to get them either but I wanted something I could play at home and where I don’t have to paint much cavalry 😂
Leon, just came back to this video. You are very precious about the odd figure that has cost pence with your artillery crew figure!!
It’s not the cost. It’s the fact that with a little bit more thought in the production stage and they could easily have made the model a lot more versatile. So not every single gun would look exactly the same
Nice rundown mate =)
to be fair, forged in battle is also 15mm only in name. I did a picture comparison with peter pig and it's actually not TOO bad but yeah khallistra for sure.
Completely agree on the 3 stands, that's exactly what I plan to do as well. 60 soldiers per battalion is still pretty darn impressive..
Oh yeah Peter pig might well work. They’re on the small side. I have some ECW of theirs I can scale against.
I must of missed your video on this. I’ll check it out.
60 minis still look great don’t they
The miniatures look epic once painted up into units. When you first showed them and I thought that they looked small for some reason, once you compared them to others it make sense why the looked smaller. Thanks for sharing
Thanks buddy. Yeah they’re definitely a scale of their own. They do look nice all ranked up and I can see a table covered in them would be great eye candy
Great video I took my christmas $$ and bought a starter 2 player plus a confed brigade plus 3x WI lol. I think your idea for using 3 stands is a great idea I placed a small order to kalistra for commands and I have started printing miniatures to add more Artillery and some scenery
Thanks mate. There’s a guy doing a Kickstarter for ACW printed minis at this scale. I’ve tagged you on the Facebook feed. Wish I understood 3D printing lol. I’ll have to make a load of fencing with match sticks and cardboard buildings instead lol. There’s some nice looking stuff in the pipeline for these
good stuff. look forward to how the project develops. Will look a lot better on the battlefield with 3 base units, so you can do bigger battles.
Thanks Scotty. Yeah I think 3 stands is enough definitely.
Ace result. Didn't think of putting the mounted officer in the ranks, but doing so means you could possibly use your chopped out officer as the commander for a second battalion without needing to go the metal route.
Thanks buddy. Yep it’s nice to have a few spare figures for command bases. I’ll only put a mounted commander in one battalion in each brigade
Those look REALLY, REALLY Good!! 25yrs ago I started in ACW mini's and have collected over 1800 figures(Infantry, Arty and Command, with various markers as well). This would have been a WHOLE LOT EASIER to deal with!! LOL
Thanks buddy. Hahaha yes they are quite easy to paint
You've done a grand job in these mate. You know my thoughts on them but I'll be interested to see how your armies finish up.
Thanks Paul. I think it’s when they’re all painted and out on the gaming table that they’ll come into their own.
Nice to see figures in close order. Excellent video. Must fettle / paint mine.
Thanks buddy.
Wow great looking stuff there. I'm sure you could trim off that sword arm on the mounted commander and use the sword arm on the infantry officer to replace it. It does mena the infantry guy is sacrificed, but it would be worth it. I'm very impressed. Thanks for the vid.
Thanks mate. I’ll give it a try when I get the starter set. I’ll have quite a few of that same model so I don’t mind sacrificing a few to see how I can change the pose. Might even be able to chop him in half and replace the upper half of him completely.
I just ordered the starter set today, I cant wait for it to get here... I hope and pray the do Napoleonic's next!!!
It’s a fantastic starter set for sure. Napoleonic would be nice lol. I have a feeling they might go with something for hail Caesar next. Just a feeling
Really excellent paint job on these minis. Your conversions show how these little figures can be customized and made look all-the-more effective on the table. (Your Rebels in particular really look the business!) A lot of people are suggesting that a Napoleonic 'Epic' range would be welcome, unfortunately, the difference in figure/soldier types doesn't really lend itself to such 'mass-production' in the way that ACW obviously does. In fact, perhaps only ECW might suit in this regard and these wouldn't be as popular, particularly in the USA as ACW or Nappies. It will be interesting to see if Warlord Games will add to this range with further figures such as a 'firing line', Zoaves or cavalry echelons? I'd imagine they might as, overall, the range seems to have been really well received. Great video and one that showcases the range. Warlord should send you a free boxes for the advertising of their product! xx SF
Thanks Steve. I did put in a little extra time on the Rebs. I think Zouaves and cavalry are next to be released. I think it’s more likely to be that fine cast stuff than plastic sprue.
Yeah I don’t think Napoleonics will be any time soon. Way to many variations in uniform etc and the make up of battalions. I think ECW or maybe Crusades or something like you say that has limited options for troop choices. Maybe even dark ages?
Yes it’d be nice if they sent me some freebies. I’m always plugging their stuff lol. I should start an email campaign. Bombard them with hundreds of emails from my subscribers demanding free stuff for me to paint and review hahaha
@@leont66wargaming31 I JUST SUBSCRIBED!!! (Every little helps!!!) BTW, really like your LATE WAR Bolt Action Gerries! Picked up a few tips from your description of how you did them. xx SF
Thanks for the sub mate and glad you found it helpful 😊
Right that's it Im starting my Union troops tomorrow as I've got 2 days off,those look so nice mate
Lol. Nice one Justin. They do grow on you as you paint them. They are tiny though. I did struggle a bit at first
Some interesting thoughts. I think the big draw is that they are plastics for under 20mm. Looking forward to seeing your armies grow
Thanks Cal. I do think they’ll give that big battle feeling when they’re all massed up in the table
@@leont66wargaming31 I totally get what you mean about a 6ft board though, its why I went for 6mm single bases
Figures look great mate ,all the best Leon, Garry
Thanks Garry mate
They look great all painted up. Sadly, I have all Blue Moon 15/18s, and these will absolutely not mix well. They do look convincing. Nice work!
Thanks Eric. Yeah they won’t play well together unfortunately. Do the blue moon figures match up scale wise with AB do you know? Was looking at the Russian Napoleonics to go with my Dutch?
Very nicely painted mate, not painted mine yet lol
Thanks mate. I definitely look forward to seeing your take on them. I’ve never painted minis this small before and struggled a bit, especially with the faces
I preordered this set but do So hope they do a batch of epic naps in the near future
I reckon they will. I’d like to see Crimea and crusades as well
A bit late but iam hooked on them and i like the way you can play around with them, nice video 👍🎲
Thanks John. I’m back to painting these ACW now. Just finishing up some Confederates. 😊
@@leont66wargaming31 Yes been watching your new videos, looks great and i got a few nice ideas from them 👍🎲
Cool. Thanks for watching 😊
Looks pretty cool, I don't own any Large scale wargames yet (mars attacks & Rune Wars are the only "large games" I have). I own skirmish games, dungeon crawler games, most if not all work with smaller factions, Fallout, Judge Dredd, Village Attacks, Zomicide, Aliens... That kinda stuff. Would love to try out these "true world" wargames :)
The starter set is brilliant and you can add to it from the Kallistra ACW range. Unfortunately the Warlord add on’s are way too expensive
Good review Leon. Hopefully the Crimea or Franco Prussian war will be along at some point ☺
Thanks mate. Yes Crimea I’d buy into that. Or crusades. It’ll probably be Napoleonic though. Which is still good
The small scale gives a good representation of mass armies on the tabletop. I do Pendraken and Kalistra figures. These look excellent as well 👌
Thanks Buddy. Pendraken are very nice aren’t they. I’ve used a few Kallistra minis for command groups. They match in very nicely
@Leon T66 wargaming I just hope Warlord drift into other periods with their Epic scale soon. Looking forward to seeing more of your good work
Thanks mate. Yes me too. I’d like AWI and maybe HYW. I’ve heard rumours that there’ll be ECW and Romans soon ish.
@@leont66wargaming31 here's hoping 🙏
Hi Leon. I painted mine up, with washes and basic highlights, I even did the brass fittings on the muskets!! they’re so easy to paint and look fabulous. But, I still don’t like them. I think mixing with Kallistra will well. But don’t see me taking this any further.
Hi Nick. They sound great. I think when I get all the rest of them I need to find a quicker painting method. They’re not going to be for everyone and I get that. For me it’s something I can game with at home with my limited space.
@@leont66wargaming31 yeah makes sense from a space perspective. Looking forward to seeing how the Kallistra look alongside them tho.
after getting 2 mags myself i came to the same conclusion as you and will most likely run 3 stands per regiment, i got some kalistra stuff as well haha painted up two limbers just because they are cool
Nice. I’ve still only painted 2 of them so far. I’ve got 2 weeks off coming up. I’ll get around to painting some more of this stuff then I think
Agree with everything Leon, thanks for the shout out and link. W H Smiths is open :)
Thanks Ken. Duncan fx contacted me on Discord and is posting me a sprue. Bonus
Very nice figures and video
Thanks buddy
I actually tend to agree with the five stand units. Part of the linear combat that these armies were trained for was finding an area big enough to line up. It was when they were forced into cramped quarters that they couldnt line up
I get your point and the 5 stand units look great too. My problem is having the space to play. I only have a limited area to game in. So 5 stands just isn’t practical for me.
I must get back to finishing this project lol.
@@leont66wargaming31 yeah thats totally fair! Also, the warlord games site sells extra sets of those command unit piece things? Whatever they are called. Maybe they had that thought in mind 🤷♂️
Yep probably. Goes along with their rules as well. Sml, med and lge units. So chances are you’d need more command stands
Stunning figures!
Thanks Joe
They do look nice and your paint job does them justice but I think I’ll be sticking with my Adler 6mm. 60mm frontage per stand is too big for me and the scale of battles I like to play.
Thanks David. Yep if you like to battle at 6mm then these won’t give you that huge army feel.
Shoulder to shoulder can’t be beat for the epic look. Old Glory 10mm showed the way followed by Warlord. Would be interesting to see what other scales would look like using this strategy....
Yeah definitely. I think it’d work. Might try it if I start a new project
Your painting is really great !!!
I’m still annoyed about having 10 figure wide bases and no separate command bases.
I prefer Fire & Fury brigade rules so I can play Pickets Charge rules or Regimental Fire & Fury using the same figures so I have to decide on 15mm figures or 10mm figures. I like shoulder to shoulder close basing rathe than the current open order style bases for some rules.
Not forgetting that the ACW was the last Napoleonic War.
Thanks buddy. Yep I think they definitely got the base sizes wrong with all this Epic stuff. 6 men wide would of made a lot more sense. They do sell separate command bases for these ACW minis now. In metal I think
@@leont66wargaming31 I’ll take a look. I hope the price is reasonable.
As a thought someone was using roster sheets with 60 mm bases but I can’t remember who.
There’s another set of rules that uses cohesion where a unit drops below a certain level and the command becomes more difficult .
Baccus use 60mm bases for a regiment they used a pip system but didn’t call it that because Phil would have claimed it was his.
Generally there’s nothing ‘new’ in war games but there is a way of getting things to work better.
Without saying my way is best.
A bit like the Holy Grail.
Another way is strength points. A nail fitting a row of holes in the command bas of a battalion.
Paint the nail to match Union troops light blue , navy blue and a black head for the nail. Just to make it less noticeable.
Es usted un genio y un artista. Enhorabuena.
Thanks buddy
I noticed that the Federal artillery trails and wheels were green and the Confederate were natural (brown). Did you base that off a particular unit or was that how it was generally done?
The Union army had the green carriages like the French artillery. Tbh I’m not sure about the confederates but decided the natural wood gave them a more rag tag feel.
I bought two copies as well, lol. I painted mine with contrast paints. For the Confederates, I'd rather see that officer fig with the sword strait up, that way I could remove the sword and have a Gen Stonewall Jackson model. (He used to ride around with either one or the other arm raised in the air to "keep his blood balanced"
Yeah I wish they’d sculpted him differently so it would if been easier to convert him and move his arm around. I bought the Kallistra Stonewall Jackson mini.
I only have 2 contrast paints. When things get back to normal I’ll get a few more.
I’ve bought 6 copies of wargames illustrated, equates to a brigade box but about £5 cheaper!! Waiting on my starter set now!
Nice. I like your style. I’m heading to the shop to see if I can get another copy in the morning. Might get 3 lol
man this video is really good! it makes me wish i had money!
Thanks Whitney
Great review. It confirms my big issue over sub 20mm metal figures - terrible anatomy! The new Warlord figures are much more in proportion than the gnomish Kalistra ones, I think. This is why this is my first real step into sub 28mm.
Thanks buddy. Yeah I’ll only be using a limited few Kallistra minis just to make up command bases really. These are tha smallest minis I’ve ever painted and I’m impressed with the detail on them.
@@leont66wargaming31 The infantry seem better than the cavalry which have very small horses.
I think Warlord are doing cavalry for this. I’ll only use the Kallistra ones I get sparingly, or not at all if they look really bad
Just received the update on the release from Warlord and it looks like zouaves, the Iron Brigade and mounted cavalry due in April, at £40 a box, with a bundle deal that offers little but casulty markers.
First glance a tad expensive for, but given these can be padded out with kallistra minis and each infantry box is 300 minis - albeit in 10 man strips - not that bad. Just wondering about getting extra bases, I suppose I will have to check Renedra.
Surprised they opted for mounted cavalry in this release and perhaps also surprised it was not a combine mounted/dismounted set with horse holders. Really hoped that the skirmishing miniatures would be up first after the main box as well as extra command stands- all about using that extra base per sprue and getting more "units on table as opposed to simply minis.
I agree with you totally. I think £40 a box is way too much. I like the look of the Zouaves but not keen on the iron brigade. Maybe they’ll paint up better.
I’m disappointed with the cavalry too. Would of been so much better if they’d done dismounted cavalry as well like you said. Maybe Kallistra will substitute. It’s a pity as just mounted cavalry don’t play much of a role in the battles. Dismounted guys would of been a lot more useful.
@@leont66wargaming31 I am sat here making yet another foot of snake fencing from cocktail sticks (cheapskate that I am)and was thinking what my overall plan for these minis is and I think I am looking at using them in two ways
First of all I am moving towards one stand representing a full regiment (nominally 500 men or 1:25) this gives me plenty to stage a lot of various regimental actions, including 1st Manassas - Union roughly 48 regiments , Confederates roughly 35, artillery at a battery a base is covered as well. This should play to these mini strengths allowing plenty of room for manouvere. Rules of choice, probably A Union So Tested, not everyone's cup of tea but we like them over Black Powder - possible alternative will be the Peter Pig rules with a little teaking. For pick up games Field of Battle 3 and especially the campign system might be a winner
For larger games seems straightforward to go to a brigade per base and given the 60mm frontage these is ideal for the Altar of Freedom ruleset - our go to for large games - or possibly Polemos
Getting back to the zouaves and cavalry, I think I will still get a box of zouaves, as the equivalent in metals is even more expensive and 15 stands is more than enough for my needs. I am skipping on the Iron Brigade for now, a little simple conversion work on the standard sprues should suffice. Cavalry will be most likely Kallistra as I really only need one pack of each, and can then get two more for my £30 - likely to be the extra command groups I will definately need.
Anyway not long to wait now.....
I think I’ll do the same as you. I’ll get the Zouaves but leave the rest.
I’m making fences from matchstick’s lol.
Lovely troops, so many colors there for diversity.
Thanks Lucian.
@ 1:24 You chopped all the hats off - where did you get the kepis? I can't understand why WG didn't make the Union soldiers all with kepis????
When I say I chopped all the hats off I should of phrased it better. I just chopped of all the sides and back of the hats. Just leaving a peak at the front. They just made the one set so they could save money on production costs.
Fantastic painting m8 .
Thanks Nik
I think the blue you've used for the trousers looks quite good - I've read that the trousers worn by the Union troops were darker than commonly portrayed by wargamers, so I think you've got the compromise between "actual" colour and brightening it up for the wargames table about right.
I completely agree with you regarding "epic" games and the unit frontage of these sprues. As is, you could probably play one or two brigades per side on a six foot by four foot table (assuming two or three regiments up and two regiments in support), which doesn't seem very "epic" to me. The basing also doesn't seem to take into account the wide variation in regimental strengths during the ACW.
I can understand the business model behind Warlord's constant "let's produce a game where you can buy everything from us in one box, and make it in a funny scale so people are then locked into sticking with us" - what I find a bit mystifying is why they chose to make things difficult for anyone who likes the figures but not their rules. Why make your stands ten figures wide? The "standard" ACW basing is a 20-25mm frontage - if they had made each group of figures four strong, rather than ten, that would have meant if you wanted to use their figures for Fire and Fury, or Johnny Reb III, or Guns at Gettysburg you could have (two ranks of four figures would look quite nice). Obviously Warlord would want something more "epic" for their ruleset so they could make their stands two of the four figure groups wide and two deep - and separated the command figures into their own four figure group meaning you wouldn't need to hack them about. This would still have given Warlord a regimental strength of 80 figures and a frontage of 20-25cm.
Like you, I think the figures themselves are quite nice - I already have fairly large forces for the ACW in 15/18mm but I sometimes toy with the idea of starting over in 10mm. Unfortunately nobody produces 10mm ACW figures that really appeal to me - the price of being a sculpting snob!
Hi Malcolm. Sorry for the late reply.
Nearly missed the comment. TH-cam non notifications.
Some very great points mate. I’m probably going to use my own rules but it would be great to be more versatile and be able to use other rule sets.
I haven’t ventured into 10mm so I can’t help at all there lol. These are probably the smallest minis I’ve ever painted and they do present a new challenge. I think for me anything smaller would be a bit of a push.
It’ll be interesting to see what other lines the come up with for this scale/epic series of miniatures. I have a feeling they might go for a hail Caesar style army next.
My main problem now is all my scenery is for 28mm so I guess I better get building some smaller stuff hahaha
@@leont66wargaming31 If they went with the same single sprue fits all model then Napoleonic wouldn't work - can you imagine all the button-counters screams? War of Spanish Succession might work as bicorne / floppy hats was pretty standard for all participants.
No I agree. Napoleonic will be way down the line. Maybe AWI as well? WSS would work and ECW maybe?
Beautiful work 👍 maybe you can paint the 54th Massachusetts?
Yes I’m tempted.
@@leont66wargaming31 you can get the black regiment ACW call to arms is the manufacturer scale 1/66 absolutely lovely to work on as I got some 👍
I’ll take a look. Thanks buddy
@@leont66wargaming31 Need your wisdom on the colour white and washing it I have light tone and strong tone and dark tone but there doesn't seem to be a wash for white? How do I wash white?
Vellejo do a grey wash that works well on white. Then highlight back up again. I never use pure white. I use Vellejo off white. Gives much better coverage
I wander how you play Black Powder with them? Is one sprue a battalion or you need 4 sprues to make a battalion to be able to have different formations.?
I sprue gives you a battalion. You’d need at least 4 for a Brigade. One sprue of each is what I have painted
Really nice figures leon what scale are these they look something between 15mm and 6mm
They’re 13.5mm
I watched the full 18 minutes. I was spell bound by your review. Pastel Blue for the trousers. Not pale blue. 😀
Not even in fast forward mode??
🤣😂. Said it wrong but ordered it right.
@@leont66wargaming31 phew!
Fking love these Bud; really look great en masse. Are they 15mm? Tiny but they do look Grand after that "Leon Touch"
You should of used the Prussian Blue; that you used to highlight the Battle in the box Union that you did (still my fav Leon T Work).
Mass Columns look awesome.
Thanks Stew. They’re 13.5mm. Really tiny.
I was looking for a quicker method of painting to get them done quicker. I think the pastel blue PBeccas recommended will do the trick when it turns up
yeah I wish they would do kepi infantry as well but I do like them.
Yep they are nice
Terrific work on these figures. What green paint did you use to paint the artillery models ?
Thanks John. I used Vellejo olive green 967. Then put a strong tone wash over it to dull it down
@@leont66wargaming31 thank you.
Yeah I finally got mine in the magazine and wished I’d bought two copies as I’m considering giving these to my 10 year old son to wargame/ muck around with on the tabletop.
I’m thinking this might be a good way to get my Grandson involved with wargaming. He’s still a bit young yet but another couple of years. I might even get them all painted by then lol
nice work
Cheers mate
very cool
Thanks buddy
WELL DONE
Thanks John
Very pretty figures, they have a nice feel of closed ranks.
Thanks Paul. Be interesting to see how they develop this range
@@leont66wargaming31 1st time ive seen/heard of these, seems I'm out of the wargaming look this past year.
Three bases instead of five bases looks good enough to me and Kallistra 12mm looks like a great replacement. Though WG is going to sell only the command strip soon.
Yea I think you can buy them now? I’m still going to use Kallistra for a lot of mine so I have a bit more variety
@@leont66wargaming31 When you do three bases of infantry, what do you do with the cavalry then?
I haven’t decided yet
what is the mountain officer in the middle of the command stand for? you put the Brigade officer in the middle of the regiment.
As you know in most games there are different qualities of troops. I put the mounted officer in the ranks to represent the regimental colonel not the Brigade commander. This way I can use this battalion as a veteran unit in game and it is easily identifiable because of the mounted officer. Basically he’s just there as a visual aid so I can see at a glance which units have veteran status when playing, rather than rely on my dodgy memory
They look really cool,dam it now I’m thinking maybe I should, I love the confederates
Lol. Glad you like them mate. Hope it doesn’t hurt your wallet to much. The £90 starter set is great value.
Rifle/musket vallejo paint color please?
I just used Flat Earth. I think there’s a better colour that other people use but I’m not what it is. Dark wood maybe?
Are they making cavalry and zouaves?
I knew I forgot to mention something lol. Yes they’re coming out quite soon
Really they are just tokens when they get below 15mm in scale so one side blue the other side grey will do when you are standing at a gaming table. I still prefer 28mm for the painting and detail.
28’s are my favourite for the whole aesthetic. These little minis are for playing games with limited space for me
@@leont66wargaming31 Yes they can be played on small tables if you dont have the space. I used 6mm scale tanks, infantry and planes to play WWII years ago on a small table. They looked great and you could even see that the BMW Motorcycle and side car...was a motorcycle and side car.
That's impressive!
Thanks my friend
@@leont66wargaming31 that's the beauty of small scales. You get a lot in a small space. Great paint job!
I love the look of a gaming table filled with painted 28mm minis with all the scenery and stuff. The visual spectacle is just brilliant. I am now getting more into the smaller scale as I simply don’t have the space to play grand scale 28mm battles at home. I definitely agree that is the beauty of the small scale. Huge armies in a lot smaller space
@@leont66wargaming31 indeed. I am pretty new to 28mm, only a couple of years, but I do like the detail. You do need plenty of space, so I continue with the old 1/72 as well for some projects, cheap and cheerful. I think anything smaller for me just wouldn't be feasible now sadly. I do have a reasonable amount of space thankfully, so I manage. Again, great job Leon!
Thanks mate.
Where did you get all the kepi union heads?
I just chopped off the sides and back of the hats with some snips and tidied them up with a craft knife. Voila, all union troops in Kepi
@@leont66wargaming31 So simple and elegant. Thank you.
Even ive got some of these, im finding them so difficult to paint though as I'm not used to small scale stuff, I won't ever add to mine, two sprues are enough, but if warlord did a waterloo set like this I'd probably buy a big box.
I must admit I struggled a bit with theses. Smallest minis I’ve ever painted.
I have heard they’ll be doing more like this. I would imagine Napoleonics is high on their list
Is it me or all Union soldiers should all have kepis instead of a mix of kepis and hats ? Seems very odd to me.... Looks relevant for rebs though.....
Yes that’s my feeling as well. I’ve trimmed all the hats down on the union guys to give them all Kepis. It helps make them look more the part
Will do the same I think
I plan on using 6-stand units, 3 bases wide, 2 bases deep
That’s a good idea. I might do that with some battles.
@@leont66wargaming31 I bought two of the regular starter sets so that I would have the extra sprues to play grand tactical games like Johnny Reb as well
Nice. I’m looking forward to seeing the rest of the range come out. Zouaves etc.
I still can't come to grips with the fact that they have no bayonets attached. This is in fact the reason that I haven't touched this yet.
I think they didn’t add the bayonet as they might have been to easily breakable at this scale?
@@leont66wargaming31 Oh yes - that's certainly the reason, but I'd still rather see chunky bayonets (absolutely possible in that scale) than no bayonets, but it's seemingly not an issue for most!
During the battle most likely troop would not have the bayonet attached to their muskets. Having it over the barrel would have disrupted the way the power and slug would have ejected it. Making it a less accurate shot.
The only time troop would have used the bayonet is if there was going to be a charge at the enemy lines or when they were marching through a town or city. Those bayonets sure look good when they glistening with sun light.
@@WestfaliaStuff Its not an issue because of the posses with these models are battle posses. They would not have had them on during the battle. Unless they were about to initiate a charge.
That's not WW1 mate. :--) In the ACW the bayonets got attached well before the battle. There were exceptions such as companies armed with rifles, but they're really exceptions.
So would you say they are kallistra compatible ?
Only from what I’ve seen. I have some Kallistra on order, as soon as they turn up I’ll paint a few and do a comparison video.
Also someone mentioned that Peter Pig might be a good match but I haven’t seen anyone do a comparison of those yet.
Cheers man. Looking forward to your next vids....
whats the size of the base ineed to know :D !!
Lol. The bases are 60x20
@@leont66wargaming31 thanks! Warlord said 100×20
Big fail for me that warlords did not do dedicated union and confed sprues. Your painting is lovely but you should not have to swap hats!
Yeah I have to agree with you there.
Nice work mate, but these are not for me. I love the acw but just have no inkling to game it.
Thanks mate. I think I just like the fact I won’t have to paint much cavalry
No but you will have to paint dismounted Cavalry Horse holders and that shabang lol.
Lol. I might just forget about them hahaha.
This is problem with people, who say "15mil" or "14mil" is scale. "15mil" is not scale. If you want to scale something take REAL scale to your hands and measure, please, the figurines in question! How do you want to confess anybody to make figurines properly scaled if you want "15mil" instead of "1 to 100", - for example. Yes, this is so easy. Now - shout people. :))
Great points. 1/100 would be better
Such a waste....if they only had put a 4 figure frontage then this would have been awesome. Great figures but terribile footprint for gaming.
Yes I was thinking a 30mm or 40mm frontage per base would have been much more playable. They definitely got that wrong
Pathetic starters, there's no Cavalry in them, what????
Lol. I hear you but I hate painting cavalry so I can live with it. Plus cavalry didn’t play a huge roll in many of the battles except as mounted infantry and scouts. If it’d of been a Napoleonic starter that’d of been something else