Great video. Spot on with your points. I happen to own both of these cars and I have a love/hate thing with the Sienna. Lots to love - the room, the good gas mileage, the utility and the ability to have a much easier way to travel long distances. That being said, it's not fully electric and I hate having to keep a gas car. My wife drives the Sienna and doesn't have the patience that I have for charging and increased time for road trips.
I can relate a lot to what is said in this video. I owned 2019 Toyota Sienna AWD for 4 years and because of gas prices and mostly local commutes i was in market for Hybrid Sienna. Went to Toyota Dealer locally to test drive Toyota Sienna 2023 XLE (Hybrid). Here is my experience. I was told 1. Firstly that there is no Toyota Sienna 2023 on the lot that i can test drive! 2. I was told there is a waiting list and 6 to 9 months wait time before delivery. 3. That there are 35 people ahead of me on the wait list. 4. That i have to deposit $1000 to be on the wait list. 5. That i have to pay $2500 as dealer markup over the MSRP because of demand/supply. Horrible experience! Went to Tesla shop on June 2nd, test drove model Y right there and loved it. Ordered online on June 4th. Took the delivery of Model Y LR 2023 after 21 days and absolutely no regrets. Best decision i have made!
I am in the same place as you right now. horrible gas prices so looking at a Sienna for the Hybrid. but the Dealership experiences, markups, and the wait times are really pushing me away from it now. the only thing still making me think between the Model Y and the Sienna is the space would be nice and if we have a 2nd baby or even 3rd later (who knows) having the Sienna for that future proofing would be nice. if not for the space There's no competition the Teslas are the best buying experience you can ever have with a vehicle. Hopefully other manufacturers follow and delete this stupid dealership gang from the picture or atleast set them to follow some rules.
Love my sienna! 18 gallons of 87 octane for 600 miles. She rides nice and it is super easy to mirror your phone to infotainment. I have 5 kids so the sienna is for me big time. Platinum! Nothing beats the heated recliners with ottoman after a rainy soccer game!
@damaged_ambitions9906 I regularly use "Dog Mode" for the Boys when having to do a quick stop since the "Keep Mode doesn't provide Live Cabin video, maybe future update.
Please read- honest review: I have been a Toyota Fan for about 9 years and i never drove any other brand. 2023- Bought Tesla Model Y LR by trading in my beautiful Highlander. I was excited for the Tesla. Sold Tesla in just 2 months. I’ll tell you why? Pros: Fast and frunk space. Cons: - I never got more than 150miles (mostly ~110-120 miles with 100% charge)over full charge( thought my car may have an issue but it was perfectly Good upon service ).330 miles may be in dreams of Elon. Service said i have to drive slow in order to achieve upto 250+ miles lol. - So uncomfortable, seats are tiny shit. - Panaromic Roof will cause you sunstroke during summer no matter how high u run the AC. - AC is a joke in Tesla ( My 2006 corolla used to blow better chill air) - This car battery drains like hell if u park in hot temperature(even when u park and car is off) to protect the cabin seats. - Full charge( DC) will take upto 50 mins. - People living in Apts please don’t even think of buying.Stay away. - Under heavy water flow on the road, you trunk storage(underneath) will suck the water and can spoil your belongings- it works as a sponge. - Autopilot (cruise control) will give u hard time running the wipers always if your windshield has stains or water marks or fallen glue parked under the tree. -if u have a baby and a car seat is attached behind passenger or driver, don’t even think of stretching your legs, u wont get enough space with car seat. I sold this shit and bought my Toyota back. A sienna hybrid 2023 with 1 child and we are 3 elder at home. Can’t explain you how much relaxed i am. Getting 596 miles for just 1 fill up($60), - automatic sliding doors in the narrow parking, good for kids and elderly and long drives are cool and fill up takes 5 mins.Oh my god the most important comfort and rooooommmmmyyyyy. I love my Sienna. But paid extra 7k over sticker price but no issues, hearty happy. Thank god got rid of this electric toy.Huh! TH-camrs stop promoting this toys and don’t misguide ppl. If u r still thinking to buy Tesla with a mindset( no oil change, cheap to charge, money saver, no emission, silent car, fast, secure etc etc)as i had before buying, then u will regret as well.
100% agreed. Buying the tesla was probably one of my biggest regrets. I have to charge every other day and it drains battery even when not using (although maybe because of Sentry mode).
I own a 2024 Y LR. I have none of these issues. I get 250 miles from 5-80% and don't lose any range. That's on the AWD and 20in wheels. Not sure what you two are doing but dang... the y is absolutely fantastic.
Um you charge from home while sleeping. The at home cost is .025 cents per mile vs the superchargers .086. Hybrids are.. about 9 cents. We went from two gas cars (08 sienna, 24 hybrid corolla and their gas 1k month between all) to under $450 (minus expenses for ice vehicles etc, this includes the tesla monthly). For us, best choice we could have made.
It's not a bad comparison. Even though the video favors the Tesla Y, I prefer the Sienna Hybrid AWD. I was in a Tesla Model Y. I wouldn't pay 54k for it. Sienna offers more. Yep, tell me, someone who wants to transport something large or more luggage, goes on a road trip and doesn't want to worry about charging... let them choose the Sienna. How do you compare used car prices... The Sienna holds its value better.
This. My model x was $120k, just sold it recently for only $30k. Its one of the worst investments as everything started to break after warranty expired. The electricity cost in California is very high now (.40-.46cent) which makes the hybrid Sienna a better cost saving move. Love love love my new 2024 Sienna.
@@John-en2oq I live here in San Diego, and I was looking at the Tesla versus Toyota, and it makes more sense just to go gas compared to EV car. Plus the Tesla supercharger infrastructure is not there yet going on long road trips. Toyota sienna will go 600 miles on one tank of gas, compared to charging up multiple times with a Tesla. The charging efficiency is just not there.
Thank you very much for this video just what I was looking for. If possible could you please elaborate more on the comfort of the seats themselves for long trips?
Each of these vehicles has a specific use case scenario. In my opinion, if you have a family, the Model Y could be your daily driver and the Sienna could be your ICE alternative for road trips, and the family could be a bit more comfortable...
This is me, 3 tall kids so the Y only works for short trips. Wife drives a Leaf around town. Sienna for anything longer with all 5 of us. This will be our setup until I can get something like the Kia EV9 (or other 3-row) with an NACS port.
Have a ‘18 highlander the infotainment was unusable for a year with issues that crapola didn’t have an update for for the whole year. Hated it. Ripped it out last month replaced with 10in KENWOOD. Worlds of improvement. But would never get another since now also having a MY in my garage next to the highlander 😂
If I could only choose one for my 2 kids (one car seat, one booster) , does the model y have enough comfortably space? We have an 01 Camry and 15 odyssey now . Got the crib when we had kids so I could sit in the back but I don’t sit with them anymore
This is pretty close to my 2 car setup, i have the model 3 and Dodge Caravan setup and these vehicles cover all my needs. Model 3 is the daily and i use it as much as i can but sometimes you need more space to accommodate more people, not just immediate family on roadtrips. Plus i love the stow and go factor of minivans for picking up large objects. Been looking to replace the caravan and have been looking at either a new caravan or sienna (hybrid) or plugin hybrid but i don't think you get the stow and go if you choose the plugin unfortunately.
I have a 2009 sienna. All the radiator fittings are plastic and disintegrate to a crumbly powder. Leave you stranded at any given moment. So far I have replaced the radiator filler neck, (2) heater hose Tees. There are so many plastic fittings on the cooling system, you must have AAA with 200 mile tow as a backup.
@@Atgul-z6o but with the Tesla, good luck, trying to find Tesla superchargers, going on long trips, compared to having many gas stations all around, and filling up in five minutes or less. Unfortunately the infrastructure of Tesla superchargers are not there, especially going from San Diego to Tucson.
Sienna XSE 2021 owner. It’s an amazing vehicle. Tons of room and comfort. Test drove a current model Y and loved the acceleration and tech. I still trust Toyota more than Tesla.
Yeah? Just don’t plan on keeping the Toyota much past 10 years. That’s when many of the bolt on components start failing. I’m going through that now with my Sienna. Toyota is cruising on there past reputation.
Which company has the largest fine from EPA for lying over 10 years on their emissions? And the largest Federal fine ever for lying about its brake problem to its customers? Rates third biggest contributor to pollution by Influence Map? Spends billions lobbying to prevent BEV legislation? Advertises it has 'self-charging' EVs. "we must drastically change the way we do business, from manufacturing to sales and service.” Koji Sato, Mar 2023.
@@waynerussell6401 and the federal government doesn’t lie? I’m talking about emissions, it’s funny, I live here in San Diego, the most liberal place around, and we go off and shut down our nuclear plans, and running a gas plant, that makes electricity, that puts out more emissions, than the Dolly Parton nuclear plant that we had. Don’t trust the government either. lol
Gjeebs, this is Joe Gernentz from Tampa Florida area! I am one of your subscribers and I am currently in Beijing and went to the EV car show at the New China international exhibition center last Saturday. I videotaped a pass through of the Chinese cars at the event and thought you might be able to use the video tapes!! If you want them let me know how you want to send several 1 1/2 minute clips of the event.
Actually trying to sell my 2006 Toyota Sienna XLE. It’s basically that same model with all the bells and whistles. The sad thing is your brand new one doesn’t look all that different from my 17 y.o. model, aside from the cosmetic dings my kids found in the H.S. parking lot.
I sold my 2021 sienna XLS for the tesla model Y. Can't beat the roomy spaces in the sienna. that's about it. Haven't been to the gas station in a long time and so much fun with the tesla.
❤ your content Gjeebs. Could you review the plugin hybrid version of the sienna, if you can get your hands on one. Maybe a video of you dailying it for a week to get your impressions on fuel cost, comfort etc..?
The consumer still doesn’t want the minivan. I can’t understand how a family of 4, with friends prefers a mid size SUV. Yeah you don’t have AWD, but winter tires, good judgement and advanced traction control never left me stuck.
Yes, I notice that too and I'm pretty hard of hearing. I bought it into the dealer thinking it would be something obvious, but I guess they are all that way. I'm disappointed with the quality. Between the noise by the front driver's side window and the CVT whine, it gets pretty unpleasant
The Toyota hybrid battery warranty 10 yr 150 k and hybrid drive components 8 year 100k ... Love my Prius haha would love an EV especially Tesla buy can't rely on charging..
You are absolutely right… but if you have children and passengers all with their own iPhone and iPads, why do you really need interior tech? I really think we are going to see a reduction on interior entertainment and more adaptive driver technology. Yeah, Toyota and Honda are behind, but I can drive a car. Tesla doesn’t make a minivan. Arguably, minivan is the least popular configuration and I’m viewing it through that lens.
The tv in the sienna is nice for babies/children because for the first 8-10 years they don’t have phones. but the soon to come “highland” Y after the 3 gets it will have a better rear screen.
I will never understand the hype about CarPlay - both iPhone and Android's versions respectively. Sure, in cars that have otherwise shitty software, which are most cars on the market, it may be helpful, but with Tesla's excellent app integration, there should be no one dropping a tear about not having that CarPlay stuff. Or are people mad not being able to use WhatsApp while driving? 😂
I'm trying to figure out If I should order a new Sienna or a Model Y. its such a tough decision. having the peace of mind of a Toyota for the next 10+ years would be nice plus the versatility of a minivan. but the Fuel prices are getting so outrageous it's painful. The Big deal breaker for me is the dealership Markups of a MINIVAN!!. Toyotas inventory is in the Garbage and we can't even get one for probably a year or more even then we pay $5000+ over MSRP like WHAT! on a MINIVAN!
You forgot to mention the sex appeal when comparing the two! Buy the Tesla if you are trying to get laid. Buy the Minivan if you already got laid and now have a kid or two on the way 😅
If you're the driver, the Model Y is definitely better: acceleration, steering, user interface are better. If you're the passenger, the Sienna is definitely better: much more room to spread out on long road trips, ride comfort is second to none, ingress/egress is the best If you have children that ride in booster seats the safety of both are about the same. Model Y wins in lower rollover risk, the Sienna has a lot more space for body intrusion If you have older children or adults riding in the back the Model Y has much better safety restraint systems as the middle/back seatbelts in all current minivans are outdated If you use the vehicle for any kind of utility (moving stuff) the minivan is superior to everything. It can haul sod, move 4x8 plywood sheets and a king size mattress on the roof. Even with Toyota's famed reliability the Model Y will be cheaper to operate and be more reliable in the long run. I have a Model X and a Honda Odyssey. I was looking for another minivan but Toyota's and Honda's refusal to do electrification led me to buy my Model X and it has been my most reliable vehicle ever purchased in 3+ decades - even with the annoying Falcon doors. If you have babies or road trip a lot just get a minivan, otherwise the Model Y is all around better.
Spot on comparison Gjeebs! Who would cross-shop these 2? Well, I'm probably your only viewer that traded in a 2023 Sienna Hybrid for a 23 MYLR. I've been a Toyota fan for life and owned a 21 Hybrid RAV4 (with the same powertrain) as well. (And a 22 Tundra, and 3 other V6 Siennas). The Rav4 has the same powertrain as the Sienna and was decent on acceleration somewhat fun to drive, would run in EV mode regularly and I could get the EPA 40 mpg without too much effort. But the Rav was too small for the family so we went for the Hybrid Sienna..... unacceptable performance! Unsafe as you say. It could barely get out of its own way, would rarely accelerate on electric only, gas motor kicked in almost every time we accelerated. I averaged only 26 mpg over the 6 months we owned it. (10 less than EPA). Well Tesla offers me 49k for a van I paid 44k for. And Elon drops the MY price 9k in a year and Uncle Joe brings back the $7500 = MY LR for 5K LESS than the Sienna trade in! Best car ever. Now we are looking to get a M3, because my wife has decided she likes the Y and it's hers now :) If you want to do a comparison with an Powerboost F150 Hybrid let me know! I can charge the Tesla with the trucks built-in generator. Dan in Goodyear, AZ
The one thing with Tesla, and with a lot of ev cars, is the infrastructure is still just not there, especially when you want to go on long trips. It’s hit and miss, especially if a lot of the chargers stations, that are not Tesla.
Hilarious the yelling test! Whoever makes the first EV minivan is going to clean up - big market! The minivan shape is already pretty aerodynamic, and nobody expects a minivan to handle well, so the weight of a big battery won’t be much of a problem. And the EV powertrain will solve the most annoying things about the minivan - the lackluster power and droning noise.
For people who worried about the Tesla battery, My 2018 Model 3, with 140k miles has no issues and about 10% battery degradation. Even if I were to replace the battery, the savings from these past 5 years will offset the cost of the new battery. I now have a Model Y as well and not going back to ICE cars. Tesla's charging infrastructure makes roadtrips pleasant. I truly hope Tesla will come up with a Minivan, but for now, our Model Y will suffice.
That's not the latest infotainment from Toyota, What you find in the latest Prius, Crown, or new Lexus RX is a lot better. The ride quality is much better in the Toyota, no matter the year. The performance is better in the Y, the tech. These are quite different types of vehicles. Toyotas needs to end the big waits for their cars and fix their dealership experience.
storage room is debatable somewhat between both cars. I heard you can't remove the seats in the Sienna. The Model Y has seats that flip down flat, right?
The Toyota has definitely better space/usability from storing the seats down to also laying them flat.... they are fixed for more safety since they are on a rail.
I have got a Toyota sienna and let me be open and honest to you they have the worst transmission in this car . My transmission keeps slipping when I put in drive and I absolutely don't recommend to get this car. Sorry Toyota but your quality prowess is just one giant lie
@@jigs8437 but the eCVT is one of the most reliable transmission available in any vehicle sold today. The given name CVT is almost a misnomer given that it shares no resemblance; it uses a planetary gear set… so good luck trying break one of those.
@@jigs8437 eh, I disagree. As someone that owns an EV, I believe they still have many drawbacks. Either way, hope you have a more enjoyable experience moving to an EV… you won’t have those transmissions issues, that’s for sure!
I don't get the comparison, wouldn't an X be a better cross shop, since a Sienna (we have one and I've owned a Y in the past) has functional 3rd row, the Y is not functional for adults. RAV4 Prime would be a cool comparison to the Y.
The Toyota is a way better vehicle overall reliability, fixability , space, comfort. . Tesla is cooler, faster and nice using in town overpriced go cart and going long distance its a disaster.
[YT Search Box - Model Y vs minivan] Me: "No way there is a video for this. Well dang there is one and its exactly the model minivan I was looking at"
hahaha love it
There's a cover on the third row seats that flips over to cover the gap on the floor, you grabbed it while talking about how you didn't like the gap 😄
Wow, I’m impressed you could get a Sienna! Long wait list where I live at every dealership. It’s been that way for at least two years.
Great video. Spot on with your points. I happen to own both of these cars and I have a love/hate thing with the Sienna. Lots to love - the room, the good gas mileage, the utility and the ability to have a much easier way to travel long distances. That being said, it's not fully electric and I hate having to keep a gas car. My wife drives the Sienna and doesn't have the patience that I have for charging and increased time for road trips.
OH OH....looks like perhaps this is an early indication of another addition to the family unit?....He's actually looking at mini vans!
Love the screaming test in the Sienna 🤪 That seemed like a major blowout, glad no one was in the back 🤣
I can relate a lot to what is said in this video. I owned 2019 Toyota Sienna AWD for 4 years and because of gas prices and mostly local commutes i was in market for Hybrid Sienna. Went to Toyota Dealer locally to test drive Toyota Sienna 2023 XLE (Hybrid).
Here is my experience. I was told
1. Firstly that there is no Toyota Sienna 2023 on the lot that i can test drive!
2. I was told there is a waiting list and 6 to 9 months wait time before delivery.
3. That there are 35 people ahead of me on the wait list.
4. That i have to deposit $1000 to be on the wait list.
5. That i have to pay $2500 as dealer markup over the MSRP because of demand/supply.
Horrible experience!
Went to Tesla shop on June 2nd, test drove model Y right there and loved it. Ordered online on June 4th.
Took the delivery of Model Y LR 2023 after 21 days and absolutely no regrets. Best decision i have made!
LOL!!!!
I am in the same place as you right now. horrible gas prices so looking at a Sienna for the Hybrid. but the Dealership experiences, markups, and the wait times are really pushing me away from it now. the only thing still making me think between the Model Y and the Sienna is the space would be nice and if we have a 2nd baby or even 3rd later (who knows) having the Sienna for that future proofing would be nice. if not for the space There's no competition the Teslas are the best buying experience you can ever have with a vehicle.
Hopefully other manufacturers follow and delete this stupid dealership gang from the picture or atleast set them to follow some rules.
Love my sienna! 18 gallons of 87 octane for 600 miles. She rides nice and it is super easy to mirror your phone to infotainment. I have 5 kids so the sienna is for me big time. Platinum! Nothing beats the heated recliners with ottoman after a rainy soccer game!
Soccer mom flex
Every night
I own both these vehicles. My little ones love the Model Y so much it’s tough to get them to ride in the mini van now lol
All 4 of us use to camp in our 2015. With the MYLR we can camp with extention and controll internal temp via Camp Mode. 🏕 ❤
@@kirivanyam5969 I’ve yet to camp in my MYLR but plan to very soon! I think the feature I genuinely love the most though is dog mode!
But the Toyota has sliding doors! That must be much better.
@damaged_ambitions9906 I regularly use "Dog Mode" for the Boys when having to do a quick stop since the "Keep Mode doesn't provide Live Cabin video, maybe future update.
@wolfgangpreier9160 I do miss the sliding doors on the Sienna especially when parked in the garage.
Please read- honest review:
I have been a Toyota Fan for about 9 years and i never drove any other brand.
2023- Bought Tesla Model Y LR by trading in my beautiful Highlander. I was excited for the Tesla. Sold Tesla in just 2 months. I’ll tell you why?
Pros: Fast and frunk space.
Cons:
- I never got more than 150miles (mostly ~110-120 miles with 100% charge)over full charge( thought my car may have an issue but it was perfectly Good upon service ).330 miles may be in dreams of Elon. Service said i have to drive slow in order to achieve upto 250+ miles lol.
- So uncomfortable, seats are tiny shit.
- Panaromic Roof will cause you sunstroke during summer no matter how high u run the AC.
- AC is a joke in Tesla ( My 2006 corolla used to blow better chill air)
- This car battery drains like hell if u park in hot temperature(even when u park and car is off) to protect the cabin seats.
- Full charge( DC) will take upto 50 mins.
- People living in Apts please don’t even think of buying.Stay away.
- Under heavy water flow on the road, you trunk storage(underneath) will suck the water and can spoil your belongings- it works as a sponge.
- Autopilot (cruise control) will give u hard time running the wipers always if your windshield has stains or water marks or fallen glue parked under the tree.
-if u have a baby and a car seat is attached behind passenger or driver, don’t even think of stretching your legs, u wont get enough space with car seat.
I sold this shit and bought my Toyota back. A sienna hybrid 2023 with 1 child and we are 3 elder at home. Can’t explain you how much relaxed i am. Getting 596 miles for just 1 fill up($60),
- automatic sliding doors in the narrow parking, good for kids and elderly and long drives are cool and fill up takes 5 mins.Oh my god the most important comfort and rooooommmmmyyyyy. I love my Sienna. But paid extra 7k over sticker price but no issues, hearty happy. Thank god got rid of this electric toy.Huh! TH-camrs stop promoting this toys and don’t misguide ppl.
If u r still thinking to buy Tesla with a mindset( no oil change, cheap to charge, money saver, no emission, silent car, fast, secure etc etc)as i had before buying, then u will regret as well.
100% agreed. Buying the tesla was probably one of my biggest regrets. I have to charge every other day and it drains battery even when not using (although maybe because of Sentry mode).
I own a 2024 Y LR. I have none of these issues. I get 250 miles from 5-80% and don't lose any range. That's on the AWD and 20in wheels.
Not sure what you two are doing but dang... the y is absolutely fantastic.
Um you charge from home while sleeping. The at home cost is .025 cents per mile vs the superchargers .086. Hybrids are.. about 9 cents.
We went from two gas cars (08 sienna, 24 hybrid corolla and their gas 1k month between all) to under $450 (minus expenses for ice vehicles etc, this includes the tesla monthly). For us, best choice we could have made.
The yelling took me out 🤣☠️
It's not a bad comparison. Even though the video favors the Tesla Y, I prefer the Sienna Hybrid AWD. I was in a Tesla Model Y. I wouldn't pay 54k for it. Sienna offers more. Yep, tell me, someone who wants to transport something large or more luggage, goes on a road trip and doesn't want to worry about charging... let them choose the Sienna. How do you compare used car prices... The Sienna holds its value better.
This. My model x was $120k, just sold it recently for only $30k. Its one of the worst investments as everything started to break after warranty expired. The electricity cost in California is very high now (.40-.46cent) which makes the hybrid Sienna a better cost saving move. Love love love my new 2024 Sienna.
@@John-en2oq I live here in San Diego, and I was looking at the Tesla versus Toyota, and it makes more sense just to go gas compared to EV car. Plus the Tesla supercharger infrastructure is not there yet going on long road trips. Toyota sienna will go 600 miles on one tank of gas, compared to charging up multiple times with a Tesla. The charging efficiency is just not there.
Local Toyota dealer is marking up all hybrids by $1500. Dealer about 80 miles north $2500.
Thank you very much for this video just what I was looking for. If possible could you please elaborate more on the comfort of the seats themselves for long trips?
Also space in the second row / width. How did they compare?
Each of these vehicles has a specific use case scenario. In my opinion, if you have a family, the Model Y could be your daily driver and the Sienna could be your ICE alternative for road trips, and the family could be a bit more comfortable...
That’s what we have for those purposes. MYLR and Odyssey
This is me, 3 tall kids so the Y only works for short trips. Wife drives a Leaf around town. Sienna for anything longer with all 5 of us. This will be our setup until I can get something like the Kia EV9 (or other 3-row) with an NACS port.
With the sienna you can also go much further when camping or even small overlanding.... people have been doing that with Prius for decade now.
Have a ‘18 highlander the infotainment was unusable for a year with issues that crapola didn’t have an update for for the whole year. Hated it. Ripped it out last month replaced with 10in KENWOOD. Worlds of improvement. But would never get another since now also having a MY in my garage next to the highlander 😂
We own this Sienna and also a Model Y. They both are amazing.
If I could only choose one for my 2 kids (one car seat, one booster) , does the model y have enough comfortably space?
We have an 01 Camry and 15 odyssey now . Got the crib when we had kids so I could sit in the back but I don’t sit with them anymore
@@zsk8599 yes , it's comfortable for sure
"This TI 89 calculator" so true lol
The thing you grabbed on on the folded seat, you can fold it the other way and it blocks those holes
Really need to compare a Rav4 Prime to a Model Y
This is pretty close to my 2 car setup, i have the model 3 and Dodge Caravan setup and these vehicles cover all my needs. Model 3 is the daily and i use it as much as i can but sometimes you need more space to accommodate more people, not just immediate family on roadtrips. Plus i love the stow and go factor of minivans for picking up large objects. Been looking to replace the caravan and have been looking at either a new caravan or sienna (hybrid) or plugin hybrid but i don't think you get the stow and go if you choose the plugin unfortunately.
I’ve never heard a scream test. Curious what was said
06:00 worth noting, the Sienna also has a 10 year/150k mile warranty on the hybrid battery pack, and the 5 year/60k powertrain.
I have a 2009 sienna. All the radiator fittings are plastic and disintegrate to a crumbly powder. Leave you stranded at any given moment. So far I have replaced the radiator filler neck, (2) heater hose Tees. There are so many plastic fittings on the cooling system, you must have AAA with 200 mile tow as a backup.
@@Atgul-z6o but with the Tesla, good luck, trying to find Tesla superchargers, going on long trips, compared to having many gas stations all around, and filling up in five minutes or less. Unfortunately the infrastructure of Tesla superchargers are not there, especially going from San Diego to Tucson.
Sienna XSE 2021 owner. It’s an amazing vehicle. Tons of room and comfort. Test drove a current model Y and loved the acceleration and tech. I still trust Toyota more than Tesla.
Yeah? Just don’t plan on keeping the Toyota much past 10 years. That’s when many of the bolt on components start failing. I’m going through that now with my Sienna. Toyota is cruising on there past reputation.
Which company has the largest fine from EPA for lying over 10 years on their emissions?
And the largest Federal fine ever for lying about its brake problem to its customers?
Rates third biggest contributor to pollution by Influence Map?
Spends billions lobbying to prevent BEV legislation?
Advertises it has 'self-charging' EVs.
"we must drastically change the way we do business, from manufacturing to sales and service.” Koji Sato, Mar 2023.
@@waynerussell6401 and the federal government doesn’t lie?
I’m talking about emissions, it’s funny, I live here in San Diego, the most liberal place around, and we go off and shut down our nuclear plans, and running a gas plant, that makes electricity, that puts out more emissions, than the Dolly Parton nuclear plant that we had. Don’t trust the government either. lol
Gjeebs, this is Joe Gernentz from Tampa Florida area! I am one of your subscribers and I am currently in Beijing and went to the EV car show at the New China international exhibition center last Saturday. I videotaped a pass through of the Chinese cars at the event and thought you might be able to use the video tapes!! If you want them let me know how you want to send several 1 1/2 minute clips of the event.
RGBGFIVE @gmail.com
You should have now!
Actually trying to sell my 2006 Toyota Sienna XLE. It’s basically that same model with all the bells and whistles. The sad thing is your brand new one doesn’t look all that different from my 17 y.o. model, aside from the cosmetic dings my kids found in the H.S. parking lot.
I sold my 2021 sienna XLS for the tesla model Y. Can't beat the roomy spaces in the sienna. that's about it. Haven't been to the gas station in a long time and so much fun with the tesla.
I watch so much Gjeebs, my wife thinks I have a man-crush 😪
When you do the slow motion cut to camera #2..
I’ll always be here for you.
❤ your content Gjeebs. Could you review the plugin hybrid version of the sienna, if you can get your hands on one. Maybe a video of you dailying it for a week to get your impressions on fuel cost, comfort etc..?
The consumer still doesn’t want the minivan. I can’t understand how a family of 4, with friends prefers a mid size SUV. Yeah you don’t have AWD, but winter tires, good judgement and advanced traction control never left me stuck.
The road and wind noise are so bad on my Sienna, holding a conversation is uncomfortable.
Yes, I notice that too and I'm pretty hard of hearing. I bought it into the dealer thinking it would be something obvious, but I guess they are all that way. I'm disappointed with the quality. Between the noise by the front driver's side window and the CVT whine, it gets pretty unpleasant
Yeah Toyota’s software is embarrassing. Actually they probably outsource it so it may not even be theirs.
They're working on their own software. It's called Arene. And that wasn't the latest version of their software.
@@benjaminsmith2287 in 5 years Toyota will be where Tesla was in 2010
Fair review. Good job!
The Toyota hybrid battery warranty 10 yr 150 k and hybrid drive components 8 year 100k ... Love my Prius haha would love an EV especially Tesla buy can't rely on charging..
If Tesla did a Minivan I will be very tempted. That, or a real pickup truck, not the kid drawing they call the Cybertruck. 😂
You know you can get a discounted model ordered directly from tesla with less than 4k down payment and a total no more than 20 grand with a ref code.
@@a.ctlyzer oh I already own a Model Y. That’s why in my mind I can transfer my current experience into thinking what a Tesla Minivan would be…
@@perezdr1 lol sounds great
TI89 calculator lmfao 😂 1:20
I thought this would be a meme post, but is definitely a legit comparison.
One thing i dont like is having to stop and wait to charge. I want to park fill up and go...
I own both and i love these cars.
This video was great 😂
Sup Gjeebs? We have a mini van as our ICE and a Y as our Daily
Toyota and Honda's technology is so far behind and outdated compared to everyone else. It's like they're stuck in 2013.
You are absolutely right… but if you have children and passengers all with their own iPhone and iPads, why do you really need interior tech? I really think we are going to see a reduction on interior entertainment and more adaptive driver technology. Yeah, Toyota and Honda are behind, but I can drive a car. Tesla doesn’t make a minivan. Arguably, minivan is the least popular configuration and I’m viewing it through that lens.
Sliding doors and cargo capacity > everything else
you changed your tires? how much was that?
I just checked Americas Tire- price range was $270-$309 per tire installed.
compare the model x to the sienna.. thats the 2 im trying to decide between
Your video made me buy a Tesla Model Y here in Toronto, Canada.. Getting it next month. Great videos, keep up!!!
Seemed like flooring the Sienna was disappointing and the only difference was that it got louder.
The tv in the sienna is nice for babies/children because for the first 8-10 years they don’t have phones. but the soon to come “highland” Y after the 3 gets it will have a better rear screen.
I will never understand the hype about CarPlay - both iPhone and Android's versions respectively. Sure, in cars that have otherwise shitty software, which are most cars on the market, it may be helpful, but with Tesla's excellent app integration, there should be no one dropping a tear about not having that CarPlay stuff.
Or are people mad not being able to use WhatsApp while driving? 😂
I'm trying to figure out If I should order a new Sienna or a Model Y. its such a tough decision. having the peace of mind of a Toyota for the next 10+ years would be nice plus the versatility of a minivan. but the Fuel prices are getting so outrageous it's painful.
The Big deal breaker for me is the dealership Markups of a MINIVAN!!. Toyotas inventory is in the Garbage and we can't even get one for probably a year or more even then we pay $5000+ over MSRP like WHAT! on a MINIVAN!
You forgot to mention the sex appeal when comparing the two! Buy the Tesla if you are trying to get laid. Buy the Minivan if you already got laid and now have a kid or two on the way 😅
The side of a toaster 🤣 snorted
If you're the driver, the Model Y is definitely better: acceleration, steering, user interface are better.
If you're the passenger, the Sienna is definitely better: much more room to spread out on long road trips, ride comfort is second to none, ingress/egress is the best
If you have children that ride in booster seats the safety of both are about the same. Model Y wins in lower rollover risk, the Sienna has a lot more space for body intrusion
If you have older children or adults riding in the back the Model Y has much better safety restraint systems as the middle/back seatbelts in all current minivans are outdated
If you use the vehicle for any kind of utility (moving stuff) the minivan is superior to everything. It can haul sod, move 4x8 plywood sheets and a king size mattress on the roof.
Even with Toyota's famed reliability the Model Y will be cheaper to operate and be more reliable in the long run.
I have a Model X and a Honda Odyssey. I was looking for another minivan but Toyota's and Honda's refusal to do electrification led me to buy my Model X and it has been my most reliable vehicle ever purchased in 3+ decades - even with the annoying Falcon doors.
If you have babies or road trip a lot just get a minivan, otherwise the Model Y is all around better.
Spot on comparison Gjeebs! Who would cross-shop these 2? Well, I'm probably your only viewer that traded in a 2023 Sienna Hybrid for a 23 MYLR. I've been a Toyota fan for life and owned a 21 Hybrid RAV4 (with the same powertrain) as well. (And a 22 Tundra, and 3 other V6 Siennas). The Rav4 has the same powertrain as the Sienna and was decent on acceleration somewhat fun to drive, would run in EV mode regularly and I could get the EPA 40 mpg without too much effort. But the Rav was too small for the family so we went for the Hybrid Sienna..... unacceptable performance! Unsafe as you say. It could barely get out of its own way, would rarely accelerate on electric only, gas motor kicked in almost every time we accelerated. I averaged only 26 mpg over the 6 months we owned it. (10 less than EPA). Well Tesla offers me 49k for a van I paid 44k for. And Elon drops the MY price 9k in a year and Uncle Joe brings back the $7500 = MY LR for 5K LESS than the Sienna trade in! Best car ever. Now we are looking to get a M3, because my wife has decided she likes the Y and it's hers now :)
If you want to do a comparison with an Powerboost F150 Hybrid let me know! I can charge the Tesla with the trucks built-in generator.
Dan in Goodyear, AZ
Tesla has a 15 inch screen.
You pay over the sticker on the Sienna bc of the greedy dealers. If you lucky to buy one from a Toyota superstore they can sell at MSRP.
The one thing with Tesla, and with a lot of ev cars, is the infrastructure is still just not there, especially when you want to go on long trips. It’s hit and miss, especially if a lot of the chargers stations, that are not Tesla.
that feeling when you have both cars :-)
Model 3/Y have a 15.5 inch screen.
I never thought I’d be shopping between an EV and a minivan. What have I become?
Hilarious the yelling test!
Whoever makes the first EV minivan is going to clean up - big market! The minivan shape is already pretty aerodynamic, and nobody expects a minivan to handle well, so the weight of a big battery won’t be much of a problem. And the EV powertrain will solve the most annoying things about the minivan - the lackluster power and droning noise.
I pretty much need one for wheelchairs.
Honestly give me the minivan but the other trims have better color choices.
lol. 😂 I give you props for reviewing a minivan.
Tesla van coming?
It'll be over for the ICE community.
The Model X is a mini van; calling it an SUV helps save the ego of buyers.
Tesla is faster but the van is not slow. I find it does a nice job.
For people who worried about the Tesla battery, My 2018 Model 3, with 140k miles has no issues and about 10% battery degradation. Even if I were to replace the battery, the savings from these past 5 years will offset the cost of the new battery. I now have a Model Y as well and not going back to ICE cars. Tesla's charging infrastructure makes roadtrips pleasant.
I truly hope Tesla will come up with a Minivan, but for now, our Model Y will suffice.
No. My model x failed just after the warranty expired. 🙄
@@John-en2oq My Mercedes Benz did the same... It happens
That's not the latest infotainment from Toyota, What you find in the latest Prius, Crown, or new Lexus RX is a lot better. The ride quality is much better in the Toyota, no matter the year. The performance is better in the Y, the tech. These are quite different types of vehicles. Toyotas needs to end the big waits for their cars and fix their dealership experience.
storage room is debatable somewhat between both cars. I heard you can't remove the seats in the Sienna. The Model Y has seats that flip down flat, right?
The Toyota has definitely better space/usability from storing the seats down to also laying them flat.... they are fixed for more safety since they are on a rail.
Toyota salespersons make it too difficult to buy a hybrid. I end up buying a Tesla Y with $2,000.00 and $7,500.00 incentives.
Great race with that Ford 150....and you beat 'em too!
One car is designed for people who don’t know how to pull out and the other is an electric car
Hard to believe the buying process at the STEALERSHIP is less than stellar. 😂
Every mass breeder needs a Sienna
I have got a Toyota sienna and let me be open and honest to you they have the worst transmission in this car . My transmission keeps slipping when I put in drive and I absolutely don't recommend to get this car. Sorry Toyota but your quality prowess is just one giant lie
I assume that you're referring to an older model. The transmission in the one featured in the video has an eCVT, which doesn't have any gears at all.
@@User.JoshuaYes correct I have an older model and eCVT is even worse
@@jigs8437 but the eCVT is one of the most reliable transmission available in any vehicle sold today. The given name CVT is almost a misnomer given that it shares no resemblance; it uses a planetary gear set… so good luck trying break one of those.
@@User.Joshua I would any day go with full electric car if given a choice. Don't care if it's eCVT or CVT those days are numbered and will be gone
@@jigs8437 eh, I disagree. As someone that owns an EV, I believe they still have many drawbacks. Either way, hope you have a more enjoyable experience moving to an EV… you won’t have those transmissions issues, that’s for sure!
Ur hilarious 😂😂 btw probably better to compare it with an x
I don't get the comparison, wouldn't an X be a better cross shop, since a Sienna (we have one and I've owned a Y in the past) has functional 3rd row, the Y is not functional for adults. RAV4 Prime would be a cool comparison to the Y.
Nope it's not even close! The Sienna is much cheaper and much more usable in terms of space and capabilities for camping, overlanding....
Porsche pronounced Porsh-a sorry I had to do it lol
Sienna rules forget about Tesla gimmick cars.
The Toyota is a way better vehicle overall reliability, fixability , space, comfort. . Tesla is cooler, faster and nice using in town overpriced go cart and going long distance its a disaster.
long distance is totally fine I’ve driven all over the country no issues
Real question is new minivan vs used Model X.
Juat get the minivan.
You look like a soccer mom