That call is shocking, if a car is released publicly, it should be reviewed in its current state. Why was it released buggy with an ‘expected 2.0 update’? Fisker got caught with their balls hanging, and rightly so 😂 well done MKBHD
Bro it’s funny because I sent an email to Fisker back in JULY when I filmed this car. I told them a list of things that needed to be fixed because the car I filmed was apparently pre-production. Sad that none of them were addressed. Really wanted Fisker to do well.
Which means they just want to ride with the current surge in EV sales but don't really care about the customers. Hyundai and Toyota both made modifications as soon as customers and influencers made them aware of some needed features and fixes. Ford constantly rolls out OTA updates.
The review treats it like a 'normal' car, but it's really not. With so much attention given to its sustainable build and design, it is not on a level playing field. I do agree that it's not acceptable to release such buggy software but this review is questionable for its intent.
@@CathodeRaze If it can't function like a normal, fully-functional EV then it's a fail. Sure, some of his takes are his personal opinions but that doesn't change the fact that people should be able to live with this daily and they can't. Suggesting that the Ocean is somehow special or different and therefore it shouldn't be held to the same standards as other EVs makes you come across as a Fisker apologist and unable to really be objective. Fisker is selling pre-production-quality vehicles. Why? They have to. If they waited until the bugs were worked out then the company would go bankrupt before selling 1 vehicle. They took a calculated risk to try and start generating income by selling vehicles not ready for production and whether that was the right or wrong decision is up for debate, but I feel like they had no choice. Their stock is down over 94% over the past year and the company may not survive 2024. Selling pre-production-quality vehicles was a hail Mary that may bite them and just be prolonging the inevitable.
@@dieseldrax I'll reiterate that no car should be released with any dangerous issues but most have been very annoying software. He could have reviewed (much more usefully) the 2.0 upgraded car because that's what everyone will have from March onwards. I've driven the car and it's a great drive so I'm not just an apologist. What I am is an entrepreneur and a disruptor and know where Fisker comes from in a cut-throat industry full of sharks. This reviewer knew that his review would be damaging - a short-term win for him maybe but long-term pain for Fisker. I don't respect that.
I agree. It could potentially force the person to update on pain of losing their transportation (particularly in places that don’t have public transit.) it’s a violation of consent
Working in IT, i get it BUT, and this is a BIG BUT, there is always a chance it could brick your car. Like phones and servers...if you dont test it before pushing it to production...it could be awful. Fixing things on the fly is pretty awesome...but you have to trust the company.
Car companies took a page out of the book of video game development by releasing an unfinished product and then promising their customers with future updates that will fix things
@@ShihanQu FSD is early access. Just like when you buy an EA game on Steam, they are very clear that it's an unfinished product at the moment and you are buying in early on the development cycle. Nothing wrong with that. If you only want finished products, don't buy early access.
thats what new cars are now. they dont sell cars without computers anymore and those computers rarely have working software before theyre sold. its just like gaming actually lol
Yea screw that i am never gonna buy a car that needs updates for its software fuck that. I don't mind EV's but to me they have just gone to overdesign zone hard with most of them where only EV's that i would actually drive are the senior scooter three wheelers or EV's from early 90s all of them are just way too filled with useless tech that just ups the price and i would never ever even use but the car would still have to have all of it in working condition because of yearly inspection.
Insane of them to not want you to review it as they do not see it as ready but are willing to charge customers 75k for it. Absolutely right of you to review the product they have chosen to sell to customers
You keep missing the point over and over - he was offered latest car software, chose old one intentionally to do it down. So - given that most would-be owners would never see what he’s reviewed (except the good stuff) it makes the review vindictive.
They knew they shipped a terrible product and weren't keen on a large reviewer bringing things to light. If you scour around the internet, you'll see plenty of lukewarm/bad reviews. Even the Fisker subreddit is constantly filled with posts containing gripes/issues/errors about the vehicle + not great company servicing.
Fisker has been fighting to keep any real reviewers from getting into an Ocean. I am disappointed that this review did not include him testing the Ocean on a dirt road, not one single photo exists of this so called SUV driving where an SUV is supposed to be able to go, nine months after deliveries started.
@@mtawali13 Oh come on, no one does any real criticism of Apple, if you do you don't get shipped products and don't get invites to Apple events. He may get away with a little more than the average person but he still toes the line.
@@TheGamingNorwegianI think they should just give you a warning popup every time you boost after 500 uses. You can still use it, but the car will inform you that it could cause damage or wear to the drivetrain and youd have to confirm that you are willing to risk that. Completely locking the you out of the feature doesn’t seem right for something that you own.
I love how the tablet screen rotation is motor driven but it doesn't communicate with the tablet computer at all, and relies on the tablet sensors to react. So you have to wait three times for rotation: the long button press, then the physical rotation, then the software rotation.
@@No1_sp3cia1 It is but unfortunately with todays reality not a far fetched one. We dreamed of flying cars and instead we got pre-release cars that can't be touched by mechanics that need 2-3 years patches to get decent with microtransactions and blue screens and OS learning just to turn the air-con on or lower the radio volume. Sad state of affairs really.
It's incredible (to me) that car infotainment systems (from all brands) are still so slow/crappy. We've had tablets and phones with a LOT more functionality for decades now for less than $200.
@@guitarazn90210 yeah that kinda is the point OP was tyring to make. We've had cheap but reasonably powerful SoCs for YEARS now yet car manufacturers end up using the slowest one they can find
The life cycle of technology is faster than the time it takes to design and test a complex computer system so by the time the car is ready to go, the original software or technology is outdated
ppl accepted this way for many products since decades, and now complaining autistic about a single start up doing so. ppl also belive in Capitalism which enforce companies to go this way for financial conditions in this system. So what we should really complain about?
It's a cashflow problem. You can only produce this car at a reasonable price once you have large sales/production numbers, which needs a large investment. You're basically saying you'll outcompete all existing companies with your killer new feature --- because if it's something the others thought of, then they have the advantage of being established (in workspace, logistics, dealernetwork, troubleshooting/maintenance, ... all those things you have to start from scratch). But we don't know if your killer feature, or actually your new mixture of pros/cons (price, quality, features, style, ... ), will take off! You don't get a blank check, you need to argue for every $million investment --- but until you do the actual thing you do not know what things will cost in time and money, and something will go wrong (bad weather? bankrupt supplier?) that you cannot ask a budget for; so you are by definition short of budget. So you must buy from an established company, or find a startup with a ridiculous no-questions-ask unlimited funding billionaire supporter.
Another . method is the MVP concept, just test the core features, everything else doesn't have to be perfect, of course that's the prototype and u apply it to a select people who are aware of it, not the fucking product itself, it's happening every where now
I am a Fisker Ocean One owner and I feel like everything you commented on is valid. The fob sucks, the lack of saving my drive modes, the crazy flashing errors I get constantly…it’s unique for sure. Though I enjoy every moment I’m able to drive it. It’s a unique experience I can’t get enough of. I welcome the honest commentary on the vehicle and I hope the negative commentary forces them to address some of these long standing issues
Even if it had launched without issues, Fisker is not in a good financial position and is likely to go under. Magna (their manufacturing partner) will be fine and probably sees the writing on the wall.
This kind of thing reminds me back in the day of early video games, when internet wasn’t a thing. Game companies mostly only released when the bugs were all worked out, but when the internet was a normal thing, all sorts of companies were like “release it, we can patch it later” seems like the same thing with cars now.
It's this way for a reason. These companies are under enormous pressure to recoup investment in labor and materials and equipment costs, and it's impossible to do that when you aren't selling products. I understand the need to get these things out there and start down the road to making the company profitable, but there's a limit to the number of incomplete systems and bugs consumers will tolerate before your brand is written off as garbage and then all of that work starts going down the drain.
@@arau8310 bro, look at renault-nissan alliance, they produce good cars and back in the days - they were even INVINCIBLE, like for real. No squeaks, no rust, no bugs, just straight good cars. Is that hard to do like that? i get the point "if it sells in that condition - why improving things? But i don't get the point why no one sells it back, until it will be done. Why just complay about it on the internet?
@Kodakicy wouldn't be the first time. they went under after the fisker karma in 2014. the ocean only exists under the fisker name because henrik fisker loves losing money and decided to start a second car company also named fisker in 2016. technically the karma and the ocean are made by different companies.
The sunroof opening with all the other windows opening is a heat dump mode for a very hot summer day. You get in the truck, on a very sunny summer day, and it's a 120 degrees inside, this opens everything up and gets the heat out quick, so the ac unit does not have to work as hard to cool the inside of the truck.
Calling the Model 3 "The Perfect Starter EV" and then calling this the "Worst Car I've Ever Reviewed" is insane! Just how much Tesla stock do you own Marques?
12:13 IMO you should get full power when you floor the acceleration pedal on any car, on any driving mode. Because you wouldn't floor it if it wasn't for an urgent need to do so. And you don't want to fiddle with driving modes when it's urgent to floor the pedal
@@venkinta3343yes that should not be a thing. You floor a pedal cause you want 100% of the car on your back that’s it, no extra steps if you are in an emergency situation
Totally agree with this. Or, just always leave it on sport or whatever and only floor it when you need it. "Eco" mode is just keep your foot out of it.
Quite concerning that Marques wants to handicap his performance on the public highways because he wants to "Chill". Yes, I have my car in Eco mode permanently, it runs on two cylinders when I'm cruising at certain revs/speed without change, but I can floor it and the power will be there just like whenever I need it. I reckon he'd realise the stupidity of what he said if we pointed out that in Chill Mode, the brakes would be capped too, so that emergency stop requires you to fiddle with a button and cycle menu.
This feels more like someone took the normal "We'll fix it after launch" approach I see in software and tried applying it to a physical item. This is either the devs running out of time, or not having the QA and resources they need.
Having worked in automotive software validation for years, THANK YOU for expressing how these "minor annoyances" can totally ruin the driving experience. They're not minor. They're very big deals, especially when they distract the person who's supposed to be piloting a dangerous, powerful machine through an uncontrolled environment. That said, it sounds like they know they rushed it out, they were trying very hard to keep this crapware away from you, and that tells me they're taking the issues seriously. If 2.0 fixes some things, 2.1 should fix even more. Maybe in a few years it'll be worth owning.
Us devs hate it even more than you QA people do. This happens when mgmt comes up with ridiculous timelines and refuses to delay, resulting in releasing half-baked shit cuz the investors need their money!!! Multi-industry standard at this point and it's pathetic
I test drove one with the buggy software. It's a great drive solid build and I'd rather have it with bugs as part of the 'movement' than wait for it all to be ironed out just perfect. Fisker's service has also not been mentioned but have been very attentive to owners with issues.
The only really "minor" issue is the solar roof monitoring. I'd forget about it and wouldn't care. But the other ones? Those are actual asset swap videogame bugs.
It's a solar panel... pretty sure it's not transparent. Also, with the driver being at the front of the car, and only barely seeing any of the interior while driving, except in your peripheral visiion, how would you notice any shadows it casts?? Are you such a distracted driver that you are constantly looking around your interior instead of ahead of you?
How would you like it if you as a software engineer had spent the last 6 months on your baby sorting out all the issues only for some influencer to ignore the offer to see your hard work?
@@CathodeRaze you’re a dummy. The engineer came out plenty of time and never fixed the issue. All the sudden they get a bad review and they send out their senior engineers to fix it. Don’t be silly
@@CathodeRaze ill be ashamed. Ill be mad at whoever greenlit it to be sold publicly. Last thing id feel tho is anger towards the reviewer. If we watch the same video, it’s clear that the ‘influencer’ was trying his hardest to find a silverlining on this car. If anything, the ‘influencer’ went easy on it.
I worked at GM on one of their (web) software teams and they started rerouting all ton of software people toward what they called “software defined vehicle.” The issues shown in this video iterate exactly why the idea of that made my skin crawl. A vehicle is first and foremost a means of transportation. Software features should enhance and add to that experience after (and ONLY after) all the basic features found in cars from the ‘90s (or earlier for that matter) are absolutely rock solid. Technology, especially in a personal transportation setting, should get out of the user’s way and make using things less complicated and cumbersome, not more.
Yeah car companies are drooling over the idea of being able to have a standardized EV chassis for all their vehicles and then "define" each specific car/SUV/Truck via software. Everything from the handling characteristics, performance, features....etc. Where the battery sled or Skateboard only differs by the number of electric motors and size of the battery pack. And then you just plot down whatever body type/chassis on top of that as standardized "sled".
@@RmnGnzlz Lmao this isn't a video game where they patch shit after you buy the product. If they're careless enough to ship bad software when you're buying it, you bet your ass they'd do it again in the future
@@turningmememachine7256 It’s true that the software should’ve been MUCH better when they released this car but it honestly is kinda like a video game. No matter how good the software initially is it’s always going to need to be updated and get bug fixes/improvements.
To be fair the glovebox missing doesn’t matter to me as much in 2024 what do people even keep in there anymore ? I have like paper copies of car repair work and registration paperwork but all of that is digital anyways I would rather have that tray 100%
@@whoareyou60gun :P Also registration and insurance is better to have physically, it can't run out of battery and cops will like it better. I also keep a little thing that reads the fault codes of my vehicle, and an actual pair of gloves (wow, imagine lol) and an ice scraper in mine. Storage in vehicles, especially something as ubiquitous as a glovebox, is a wierd thing to remove. Especially in an electric car, where less room is taken up by the motor and battery than is taken up by an engine, gas tank, and transmission. Oh plus, you could keep the globebox and just have a tray extend out of it or above it. Wouldn't even take up that much extra room. The tray is nice tho.
@@darwinism8181 It's a kids problem - in the rear mostly as many SUV drivers could testify. Drink bottles squeezed into seat pouches and snack wrappers etc. I like it clean and not too many storage areas to dump stuff in the car. Myself - I'm tidy.
Or simply titling the video the way he did for clicks. It's very intent based. This guy's review, which sounded more. Positive than negative, hinged in bad software. Basically Tesla MO for more than a decade. He's a Tesla simp... Nuff said
Yeah, I came here because of the noise in the media. The review is completely fine, the title is click bait. Demanding to wait for a magical '2.0 update' is completely unreasonable however. If they have released the product for customers to buy, that is what should be reviewed, not some promised future dream. And I learned I will never buy this car, as it has way too many technical gismoz that are so custom, they are gonna be really expensive to repair when they stop working. It's none the less impressive if they managed to release this car if it lasts long and the driving is good.
@@Growlizing it drives like a dream. It's build solidly. The software got better 2.0. Wait a year and dive in... But the car is smooth as butta and turns a lot of heads
@@johnramos8703 that vehicle is not meant to be taken seriously. If you have 100k plus to throw away... You're OK with wasting money. Way better cars out there for that price tag. Also, this dude ain't a car reviewer. I watched a couple of reviews of his after the fisker review... They're weak. He doesn't know how to review them. And I'm not mad. I don't live in the internet. I think it's funny how overblown Wall Street and simps worked to tank fisker... Albeit with valid concerns. I recall Tesla going through a lot of this over the past decade. This is nothing new for early adopters
@@Andy-ho1bnyeah anytime I wanna show my license and registration let me just reach down bolow the seat instead of "most natural unsuspicious" position
@@onkarmane8760 Lol! Cop: “He’s reaching under the seat! Call for backup! Hands where I can see them. Get out of the car! You have the right to remain silent!”
Not to contradict, but Marques here keeps saying Fisker is a new company, and here I am wondering if I hallucinated James May driving a Fisker Karma on TG back in 2012.
yeah I raised my eyebrow when he said ‘new’ because I remember coming across the Karma for the first time in my local mall and that was around 2014 I think? Looks like the company has had a lot of financial problems in the past. edit: I mean I guess it’s relatively new compared to Tesla.
Previous company was Fisker Automotive, and went bankrupt in 2014, assets sold to a Chinese company. New company is Fisker Inc started in 2016, so, do with that what you will 😂
@@aluneburgeven still, for a car company a decade is not a lot of time. Ford, GM, and Hyundai have been around for exceptionally long times. I kind of took it as “new compared to everyone else.”
@@aluneburgIf that's the case, isn't that still a bad sign? They failed before, and here we are again and this product is half baked. Doesn't look good for the future if you wanted to buy one.
My neighbour has this car. I was shovelling snow in our shared driveway, and the car suddenly just unlocked the doors and exposed the door handles for no reason 😂 It seems to have huge issues with the cold climate in Norway.
Your neighbor probably butt-unlocked the car with the FOB in their pocket. I've seen this several times with newer cars. Sometimes it pops the trunk as well, super annoying, and a security risk.
EVs are shit in really cold climates no matter what brand we are talking about. Imagine a proper snowstorm that blocks traffic in the middle of nowhere? Batteries will run out and everyone stuck is seriously fucked.
@brightsunsingh so everyone is allowed to fix their issues? Car manufacturing is not easy. Ford has over 100 years and still makes errors. People make TH-cam videos like it's gospel. Watch the videos and the title is click bait.
Big mistake to a company rush to get a unfinished product into the market. It's sign of financial despair. If they don't act soon, the brand is doomed.
@@dexter19885yeah, but what EV manufacturer with a possible exception of Tesla isn't? Fisker was still the best of the rest and I would hate to see them go out of business, but the financials of it are just cruel.
I also expected it to be a down right terrible product based on the chatter, but it seems to be more small nuances than major defects. But for the $70K MSRP, I can see why it's unacceptable these faults were not corrected prior to being sold to the public. The biggest fault of this vehicle...it's an EV.
It's a very good review by the way. Reviewers should tell the bad side of the products not only the good. Before buying expensive things nowadays people searching details online including reviews. They trust those reviews. You have done your responsibility to your trusted community. You have saved their money from buying bullshit products from fake manufacturers. Thank You again MKBHD. ❤
I love solar panels on cars. Not for adding range, but for running ventilation during the summer. Helping circulate air makes a huge difference on how hot the interior gets.
There is a reason they are hardly used on electric cars. They are not big enough to provide any meaningful amount of power for how much they cost to manufacture. 2-3 miles of range a day, and I'm assuming that is only in perfect conditions, is almost nothing. Car companies would rather spend that money on a slightly bigger battery.
The 500 digital limit on launch is interesting because manufacturers know these limits, and have these limits, but typically don't show consumers / owners. For example, most cars have a "service every 10000km" etc. And most manufacturers will know that something like a maximum power launch will destroy part x or y in 500 (or whatever amount) of repetitions. Its interesting the Fisker are letting you see that. Its like a manufacturer saying "Trash your car if you like, but here's the damage you're doing".
Absolutely. For example the original Audi RS5's powertrain was designed to withstand roughly 3 hours of wide open throttle. The lead engineer of this project was a supervisor at our university and told us about this.
I hate that. If i buy a car with launch control, i want a car that is built for it and not some that just tolerates it a few times. I wish there were a damage indicator like in video games. My car is sending enough data to them that they could know when a part is probably going to fail depending on my driving behavior. Dealer told me to not do launch control too often if i want to keep it longer. Its used. I dont know what the previous owner did. Built for the forces would be better but an indicator is nice.
reminds me of trying to pair with my 2015 honda civic. still to this day i use aux because the pairing works only half the time, and when i get it to work it has a noticeable 2-3 second delay
It looks good, drives well, lots of space, and yet, is the worst car ever? Have you reviewed any Jeep products? Mitsubishi SUV? Nissan Juke? Oh well, looks like they're done. Congrats.
He gave an honest review. They wouldn’t have gone bankrupt if they made a good product. Blaming a TH-camr for being honest and not the car company for rushing a unfinished car is crazy.
Insane? It's insane it even has that insane boost launch. It's a freaking bone they're throwing you. They could just remove it, not have to worry about the wear and warranty and still sell a crazy fast car.
There’s this ongoing trend in American product development where the venture capital or board members have unrealistic expectations about a product release cycle, and I think this is yet another victim of the “get this to market now” mentality. It’s so shortsighted and I doubt there would ever be any complaints that they waited until the product was ready and it actually succeeded, but the people behind the money just underestimate how public perception of a launch can create an unnecessary hole for them to climb out of. It’s a setback that’s easily avoided simply by allowing more time. The public should never see a MVP, but that’s almost exclusively what the public sees these days and it’s not pretty.
You would think after seeing the trends and how this f's up releases those people would learn their lesson but I guess not. I guess sometimes the workers just overwork themselves or just produce excellence by a mix of skill and luck and they get away with short production cycles enough to not get the point.
I'm a game dev and yeah this absolutely screamed "launch now, patch later" mentality. It's part of the twisting nest of thorns that is slowly choking the life out of the game industry, and I'm sad (though not at all surprised) to see it getting it's hooks into automotive now that's it's so software focused. Hopefully they learn better lessons than we did; I feel like the average soccer mom is gonna be MUCH more turned off of spending $30k+ on a buggy mess of a vehicle they expect to drive for 10 years than the average gamer would on spending $60 on a crappy game.
You aren't wrong. But when you are dealing with Startups and Funding, "get this to market now" can be part of the Make/Break of a company. If their issues were primarily software related, then they know they can address that along the way. But if it's a hardware issue, that can tank them in the long run. So you know where all the primary focus and funding goes too. Companies do forget that software is important but it takes teams of people to get there. But companies don't see software or IT development as well funded as it should be.
Or better yet, make sure you have enough money to bring it to market and shut your mouth until you know it's ready.. So sick of hearing marketing hype about things that are years and years away from being ready
That's because it's based on failed technology. Having a battery sealed into the car so you have to sit and wait while it get's recharged, is as stupid as driving a gasoline powered car, and then having to go to a refinery and wait while they manufacture the gasoline to refuel it. EV's should have been designed to exchange standardized battery packs at service stations, and the consumer gets charged for the energy which has been used up to that point; the ' used battery pack' gets exchanged for a fully charged one, which should only take a minute, with the battery pack on a sliding rack under the car that connects to the vehicle with bayonet connectors. In and out of the service station in minutes or even seconds. but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, we have to cowtow to the rich vehicle designers who want to maintain a steady state of their own proprietary designed batteries that have to be recharged at a 'recharging station' of their own design, so they can continue to get richer, meanwhile the consumers get stuck twidling their dick waiting for their cars to recharge, sometimes going up in flames because it necessitates a 'quick charge' state in those onboard batteries, resulting in fires.
Red and blue flashing lights on the dash at night has to be one of the most ridiculous oversights I’ve ever heard of. Has nobody at Fisker ever driven a car before? Or are they unaware that cops exist?
Not every contry use that conbination of colors though and/or have police cars hanging on every corner. Here it's just automatic speed/infraction control by radar and camera and you get the ticket in the "mail". If you don't pay it doesen't end up in court but is just deducted from your sallary or pension. (and the busted taillight situation is a limited situation because of mandatory 2year inspection after 6years of age)
Being able to floor it in "Earth Mode" is probably a safety feature. Even if you are in eco-mode, you need to be able to access more acceleration in an emergency situation.
I would have considered it to be more of a comfort than a safety feature. I drive a BMW i4M50, which has a dual motor setup and 4 drivemodes. In eco-pro mode only the rear engine is on, in comfort mode both engines are used but limited to around 85% of the maximum power, sport mode is the same but different suspension setup, only in sport boost mode you can use 100% of the maximum power. Which means you would need to constanty switch between eco-pro and comfort or sport if you need more acceleration for overtaking and such. That is quite annoying, so I only use comfort for normal roads or sport boost on the autobahn. Having the option to drive in eco-pro and getting full power when flooring the pedal like the fisker seems like a more comfortable solution.
It could be both. Having drive by wire opens up a bunch of possibilities for control response but also opens up a lot of design questions about user experience and safety. It's interesting to see how different design teams tackle the problem. @@Genesis19623
I liked the high point when you said "Its not my policy to wait for SW updates and review as its being used by customers". I learnt something from that. "Never hold yourself down against anything".
I remember a guy near me had a Kisker Karma many years ago. He drove it for over a decade until the proprietary tires that were designed for it went out of production. Made each tire $2000
I'm genuinely wondering who would buy this fault-riddled crap box. Henrik Fisker maybe a great designer but he also has an astonishing and well-documented track-record as a failed automotive entrepreneur. No idea why anyone would give him more money at this point. Either as a customer or as an investor. I'll give Fisker another 12 months at most before they file for another bankruptcy.
Have a fisher karma now, does it have issues absolutely but it’s solid, as long as you expect quarks and issues from these new technology based cars you’ll be fine and happy. Use it as commuter car and get around 600 mpg
My dad drives one, terribly unreliable, where we were test driving one years before he bought one himself we broke down on the highway which has never happened to me outside of that one time. The one he own has issues with the ac
Proprietary tires? Yeah. That's definitely not a real thing. Rolls Royce and Bentley do the same thing. Yeah, if you want to stay under formal warranty, but if that's not a concern, a quality 3rd party tire is a quality 3rd party tire. Tactics like that prey on uninformed car consumers that don't know any better.
Imagine after exceeding the 500 Limit, you have to pay for every extra Boost or get an "Unlimited Boost" Subscribtion like BMW does for Heated Seats. Then they really played the Subscribtion Game! The only better thing would be a limit for hard braking.
Dude, you pretty much just described most of the Aston Martin cars. in fact, not sure if you knew, Henrik Fisker was the original designer for the DB9/Vantage platform. i think it's kinda funny that a lot of the old "features" got carried over. not sure if he's just obsessed with those design choices or not. ie. everything from the tiny small visor/mirror -yes it really is that tiny inside an Aston Martin DB9/Vantage. i know this, because i have one - to the incredibly short range of key fob operating radius where you literately have to stand right next to the door to operate. I guess, Henrik Fisker always considered the fact that when you're an MI6 spy, you don't want to accidently unlock your top secret super car unless if you're right next to it. Instrumental software also doesn't always work as it should inside an Aston Martin. It seems that a lot of the issues with this car is software related, which is kinda sad. we live in a day and age now that most of our driving experiences are dictated by software. Although I think it's a bit harsh to title the video as the "worst car", i do think that they rushed the delivery of the Ocean. a lot of the annoyances seem to stem from bugs and poor interface experience that mostly resemble a beta software release. Here is to hope that they can turn it around because we only need more competition in this market place. because i really do not want to be just another Tesla driver.
he said the worst car HE ever reviewed. I've watched tons of his reviews, I trust and value his very informed opinion, and this man is so fair and optimistic in his delivery that i'd be willing to guess this car is probably worse then he let on. The fact that Aston Martin has any connection with this vehicle is totally irrelevant. What ever DNA was carried over from previous iterations does not address the present needs and desires of present day consumers. as for being an M16 spy?.....seriously?
Current Aston Martin Vantages use Mercedes electronics which work as well as anything out there. I have never had any problems with my 2022 Vantage key fobs. It is a fun car to drive and handles much better than the previous version. It is much easier to see out of than most cars.
Fisker has made it quirky for the sake of being quirky, they will never sell many, hardly any compared to Tesla because Tesla’s are sensible sorted and work every time
As a safety feature, going full power 11:54 when flooring it makes total sense. AFAIK it’s called kick-down on most cars. Different drive modes should change the acceleration response, except for situations when you floor it. When you see a truck heading up your way while doing a pass, you don’t want to be pressing any other extra buttons. Love your work, Marques
Wait til states like California(and I’m sure eventually others) mandate manufacturers to limit the max speed based on posted speed limits…. I saw an article that CA is already trying to get this passed.
What's worse is that those tray table things could be installed in the seat gap. There's always filler space there... that place pens and french fries always find. A solution that covers that space would be interesting, and solve the "seat position" issue because it's attached to the seat rather than the center console.
Still way better than the interior of the cyber truck. From heads up display, physical controls, working back window and rear view mirror, no janky front windshield with huge corner blindspots. Tray is awesome idea. They both share the tiny mirror though. And lack of glovebox is bad. Outside this car is gorgeous. Although that's subjective. Watching his review of the cybertruck and then this makes me think he's a Tesla shill. Cybertruck is objectively worse from a design standpoint (functionally and aestethically). Software updates need to happen for this vehicle obviously. And thats unacceptable, but the issues shown were fairly minor. And sounds like most are/have alrdy been fixed. Screen takes 3 seconds to flip? My phone does too. Sometimes it doesn't flip at all. Complaining about having to keep foot on the brake like it's a deal breaker? Come on, man. Meanwhile tesla praised while saying FSD is imminent for nearly a decade and charging 10-15k for it on every car. FSD is not coming. Tesla charging people for stuff they dont deliver is a huge part of the business. Not to mention the cybertruck is 2 years late, 20k more than advertised, and they've only managed to push out 1k vehicles so far. Oh I forgot, those late, higher cost vehicles don't come with basics like the hubcaps they've been advertising. So pretty questionable giving Tesla a pass to roll out physical parts of the "truck" like the top light, hubcaps, extra battery (say goodbye to half of the trunk space that's already smaller than some compact cars), basic coating to prevent rusting (or $5k surcharge lol) after delivering the vehicle (how long after is not clear). Oh, not to mention the software patches Tesla also rolls out - not actual FSD though. Oh, and don't mention the pedestrians killed already.
There were all the problems I had with the Mercedes EQS. Bizarre UI choices, capacitive buttons that were difficult to use (owner’s manual: “use the very tip of your finger, not the pad - get rekt if you have long nails haha”), HVAC sporadically failed, screens sporadically blank out, Bluetooth random disconnects, Apple Play crashes, parking assist failures would require rebooting the car to be able to drive again, random accelerator attenuation at low speeds, drive mode reset every time you start the car, hill hold feature required an extra hard press on the brake, the alarm would go off if you were sitting in the car while it was off for 10+ minutes, you could only power off the car with the key fob, the lane keep feature would drift outside the lane, the doors were hard to open because the handles both locked and unlocked the doors when gripping it, the storage was ill-conceived, the personal preferences mostly didn’t work or were overridden by other preferences not tied to the profile, …. I’d hate to see what it was like during development when they thought it wasn’t ready for release! But it looked nice and the ride was nice and it had a Mercedes logo.
Mercedes got forced to make EQS like the other manufactors. EU rules, that would punish them if they didn't get elctrical cars on the road as due some penailty system based on how many internal combustion engines the sold. So there is the answer on why the car had so many faults.
@@robina.jensen6114 The UX is the same as their ICE cars. I had some loaner hybrid SUV while the dealer put their mandatory ceramic coating on the EQS. It was awful, too. The drivetrain doesn’t have anything to do with, say, how they manage Bluetooth & Apple Play. I suspect the real issue is that it’s an aging company that is largely coasting on their reputation as a luxury brand and getting by because people with money value the prestige and appearance over the day-to-day functionality.
So nice to see manufacturers getting the spotlight put on them for rushing to market products like this. I had a 2014 Infinity Q50S ten years ago and it had nothing but software problems. Camera wouldn’t load sometimes, backup lines took 90 seconds to load, dashboard would restart itself while driving, etc. There needs to be better accountability for things like this so keep up the great work at airing out their dirty laundry!
The tray for the driver seat was pretty good. But the no glove compartment was weird. Also i don't mind the Earth mode going full throttle when you floor the pedal. Sometimes you need full power suddenly without pressing a button first.
Agree.. if you're jammin' your foot to the floor when you don't urgently need a boost of speed, why are you in Eco mode in the first place? I'd say that's a positive, not a fault
If you're driving a car in eco mode, you still want to be able to access full throttle pretty much instantly if you need to get out of a pinch quickly. In all cars I've driven that have different driving modes, if you floor the accelerator (kick down mode), eco mode is bypassed almost instantly. That there is a significant delay before you get that in "earth mode", and that there seems to be a traction control issue (wheels spinning) is a safety issue.
Seems to be the case with all electric cars, really. Software fine tuning is way harder because electronics can pretty much do anything you ask and it’s very easy to implement lots of stuff and then have it a mess instead of going with a little and be able to refine it.
I believe that is accurate af. The decision meeting might have gone like: ok, it's crap right now ,but can we solve everything afterwards via ota? Gimme a yes or no. - noooooaaayyyeeess sir, boss sir.
Absolutely, I was part of a suppliers development team working on the fisker. Henrik said at kickoff he thinks that cars should be developed like mobile phones - in 18 months. That didn't age that well... 😅
It does seem kinda useful if you're eating, or want to have a laptop open when charging though, so I kinda like it. Though with the odd choice not to fit a glovebox, you do kinda need the space though.
Not only is the idea questionable, the most insane part is how weak it is. So weak that they have to put a warning label on it. I could probably justify giving up the space if it was a high quality and strong tray. But its not. I’m a big fan of quirky things but, I genuinely can’t understand what the benefits are from most of these quirks.
if my memory from my time at ford serves me right, ford has something very similar in a lot of their higher end truck trims. i also recall there being a part number for something called a "tampon holder" (not joking) that you can order to put in where the tray would normally go.
11:55 Regarding earth mode, the access still to full power does make sense to me, as a safety precaution. A situation I can think of is if you’re driving all chill, then you go to merge on a highway or for some reason need to ‘floor it’ to move out of the way of a dangerous situation, it will allow you to. There have been times I’ve used “eco” modes in vehicles when suddenly I do need to ‘floor it’ to avoid something, merge, or whatever the case may be and the power isn’t there to allow that. It can be a safety issue.
I think the access to full power should be there, but the smoothness of the delay is a problem. The "slow" mode shouldn't break the tires loose after a long delay
Once upon a time, I reserved a Fisker Ocean with a $250 Deposit. Had a terrible experience trying to get any kind of information about delivery timing. I ended up cancelling my Reservation a few months later. Unfortunately, I also invested in Fisker and bought 2000 shares - worth about $300 now. On the verge of his second failure, I think it’s clear that Henrik Fisker is a dreamer and a brilliant conceptual Designer - but that doesn’t mean he knows how to build and lead an automobile company. He’s probably better suited as an R&D leader. Lesson learned.
Lol i can't imagine treating you car like a smartphone, some people will only get to use 1 car their entire life, some people can't just buy a new car just because the manufacturer stopped supporting the car's operating system
The more computerized a car is, the more annoyances you deal with. Imagine getting a car the price of a Corvette that comes with no Sync or cruise control, which I’ve literally seen on rentals, and being told it’ll come in a software update. What happens if they decide not to update it? They already got your money. Oh well, enjoy your rolling hunk of scrap electronics!
As a Fisker Ocean owner, I can say many points are valid. But updates and tech response for me has been good. Most of my issues have been resolved. I think if you were to go back and review the first Tesla, you would have seen a buggy mess as well. There are growing pains with any new vehicle company. But they constantly improve the car over the air, listen to community feedback, and the car is a blast to drive. For the boost thing, you can go past 500, but that voids the warranty if you are going ham on the car. I had to get a tech to fix the rear quarter panels not going down in CA mode too, but it works fine now. The weirdest issue I saw was you mentioned no glove box, but there is one under each seat. And the tray takes up some center console room, but there is insane CC room below the screen and underneath that area to make up for it.
The difference is that there as no EV competition for Tesla at the time. Right now there are many EVs that are solid so why would I go for Fiskar and feel like a test bunny.
@@adgdashaef I have a Jaguar Ipace. During the first 24 months of ownership it spend at least 10 months at the Jaguar dealer .... This is a car from a reputable, high end car company...
Imo, if Fisker follows through with the software updates, and continues to update and sort out the quirks, I could see myself choosing this over a bunch of other competitors. Some of the quirks like the tray honestly seem pretty useful for eating on the go, working on the go, etc. but then stuff like the the really slow and buggy software definitely needs to be updated. And not having a glove box on the passenger side is kinda weird, that's the only physical quirk that bothers me. But the other stuff like the overall design of the vehicle, the console area design with the physical buttons, rear seating space, comfortable-looking seats, solar panel roof, and better range, are all positives to me. I'm rooting for them, but they need to follow through with the software tuning.
I feel pretty much the same way. The lack of a glovebox and rear pockets is boggling, but I can live around it. I keep too much crap in my car anyways, maybe it'd be good to cut down. I feel like he was harsher than normal on software issues, is it just me? Tesla bias maybe? :\ I have a friend with 4 tesla's in his family and those have ALWAYS been buggy software wise (admittedly not to the level of the Ocean), but the company literally asked him not to review it until the 2.0 update, and he did it anyways. He acknowledged it just enough to seem unbiased. This is the first time I think I'm hearing about this car, so it's odd to see it judged so harshly. My friend had a tesla about a year after they started selling them, and it was about just as buggy. Now they make the most popular car in the world. Give em a chance, my dude.
Fisker rationale is that most people hardly ever use the glove box and that it's basically there to store the owners manual. Marques did a fairly solid review of the car, however forgot to mention that there is storage space under the passenger seat that is meant to be used in place of the glove box.
There are 2 “glove boxes” under the front seats of the car he’s driving. He didn’t research the car before driving it so he doesn’t know. I actually have an Ultra which I chose to buy that does not include the boxes under the seats. I do not miss the glove box at all.
Bro this is car company that released a $75k car full of bugs. Even if they iron out all the problems with the software (which I doubt since even big manufacturers suck with software), its such a big red flag noone should ever buy this
Seems like a really nice car once they fix all the software issues. If it really gets that much range then that's great! I'm curious to know how much the solar roof adds to the efficiency
Can't be all that much. It's a relatively small area (perhaps comparable to a single residential solar panel), and it's not angled optimally towards the sun. I'm curious to see the numbers on that as well.
It's just sad that they rushed to market with the overall car software in such a horrible state. The massive screen delay when switching from landscape to portrait is just plain embarrassing. Things like that point to bad core software architecture, not just simple bugs. Yikes.
From owner manual… Solar Panel “On the Central Touchscreen, select > Energy and swipe left to view the Live solar energy draw rate, as well as SolarSky energy gains by Week, Month, Year, or Lifetime of your vehicle. Note: Some features may only become available in future releases.
I think the reason that full power is available in "earth" mode, is for an emergency? I.E. you can floor it and get out of a situation, no matter what drive mode you're in.
I think he meant that it is rather unbalanced or unstable, but you definitely make a great point. Emergency flooring is very much something to keep available
As I pointed out under the other comment that said the same thing: That doesn't add up as a safety feature because it still takes a few seconds for the full power to come in. If you are in a situation where you have to floor it to escape and your car doesn't take off immediately, then that defeats the purpose, no?
Fairly new to channel, I have watched a few of your videos, just saw this video when I was searching for FISKER BANKRUPTCY, so your video comes up on a mainstream media story, which I thought was pretty impressive. Great, clear cut, no nonsense reviews. New subb here, wonderful job!
@@OldManYellsAtClouds this software version is not what they are selling now. … that’s the thing. The Mitsubishi dealership probably missed 2-3 software updates that already happened.
@@OldManYellsAtClouds This is NOT what they are selling NOW. What they are selling now, even before the updates that are starting this week, include software updates that were not included in the one he picked up from some used car lot and about which we have no other information. He reviewed a car that neither current drivers, nor future owners, will own because of his "policy" of only reviewing products are no longer available in the new car market. Bro needs a policy refresh.
Honestly the features you shared seem pretty awesome compared to the competition, and the bugs you talked about all seem related to the software. So I would think this car will do quite well if they can do an actual big update.
Exactly what I thought. A good update and a different steering wheel (the original is an abomination) will sell good. Why it launched in such a bad state is beyond me tho
So he loves the looks, loves the drive and just hates to software.... Sounds like every EV ever made. I wonder if the rest of his videos are so critical? Or are the bigger brands just more likely to litigate?
The bugs he complained about could have been fixed just like when a Tesla had bugs. Just needed to do a soft reset. He knows this. And the car he had software was month out of date. And even the current software soon will be as 2.0 just started rolling out. Fisker just published this new updates feature and a roll out plan for 3.0 and 4.0. The car (I own one) is great (with minor bugs) now and will be awesome by the end of summer this year.
A tiny mirror on the sun visor, who cars, the buttons on the steering wheel-OK, but most of the the things some software bugs they can clear with time. I can't say it's a good car, but he didn't drive the car, what car review is this without any driving characteristics apart from the driving modes not working yet, how does it handle, how does it steer, I am not sure this guy is a real car journalist, he's just popular on YT. Get Throttle House to make a review, Chris Harris and many, many more.
This is the straight up modern videogame industry approach where you release something totally buggy and unfinished and say you'll fix it eventually with updates after you get people's money, except this is something with genuine safety implications lmao
So you think the Ford model T for example, had no issues whatsoever when it first came out? That’s not how it works. A lot of things usually need updates after being released no matter what it is.
Literally everything software based does that approach, from video games to phones to cars. Every EV out there has had many, many updates. They also have all had recalls. All except Fisker that is, with six months of customer deliveries and not a single recall yet. Most of them get their first recall within a couple months.
@@Pasi123 and I can guarantee you the 1908 Ford Model T is not the exact same as the 1927 Ford Model T. My point being products will always go through updates, yeah, this car had a lot of bugs but it’s the first model, the car will be eventually updated like other products, software update, or a physical update to the car etc.
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The updated Fisker Ocean review with software update 2.0 - th-cam.com/video/mZ9Q2dRQkh4/w-d-xo.html
From trash to trash LMAO
Trash 2.0
@@GYMMOTIVATIONN528.....i think u mean from trash to worm shit
Still trash.
Heyyy Markus. Grow up .
The worst car is the car you aren't paid millions to review
Anyone here from the Fisker’s chief engineer’s call to the owner of this car? 😀
👋🏼 yup 😂
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Yesss
That call is shocking, if a car is released publicly, it should be reviewed in its current state. Why was it released buggy with an ‘expected 2.0 update’? Fisker got caught with their balls hanging, and rightly so 😂 well done MKBHD
They totally missed out on the earth, wind, and fire mode.
underrated comment.
😂
I thought that's what he was gonna say as soon as "earth" came out his mouth lol.
This should be highlighted!
They didn't have that kind of imagination.
Bro it’s funny because I sent an email to Fisker back in JULY when I filmed this car. I told them a list of things that needed to be fixed because the car I filmed was apparently pre-production. Sad that none of them were addressed. Really wanted Fisker to do well.
Eey forrest
Which means they just want to ride with the current surge in EV sales but don't really care about the customers. Hyundai and Toyota both made modifications as soon as customers and influencers made them aware of some needed features and fixes. Ford constantly rolls out OTA updates.
The review treats it like a 'normal' car, but it's really not. With so much attention given to its sustainable build and design, it is not on a level playing field. I do agree that it's not acceptable to release such buggy software but this review is questionable for its intent.
@@CathodeRaze If it can't function like a normal, fully-functional EV then it's a fail. Sure, some of his takes are his personal opinions but that doesn't change the fact that people should be able to live with this daily and they can't. Suggesting that the Ocean is somehow special or different and therefore it shouldn't be held to the same standards as other EVs makes you come across as a Fisker apologist and unable to really be objective. Fisker is selling pre-production-quality vehicles. Why? They have to. If they waited until the bugs were worked out then the company would go bankrupt before selling 1 vehicle. They took a calculated risk to try and start generating income by selling vehicles not ready for production and whether that was the right or wrong decision is up for debate, but I feel like they had no choice. Their stock is down over 94% over the past year and the company may not survive 2024. Selling pre-production-quality vehicles was a hail Mary that may bite them and just be prolonging the inevitable.
@@dieseldrax I'll reiterate that no car should be released with any dangerous issues but most have been very annoying software. He could have reviewed (much more usefully) the 2.0 upgraded car because that's what everyone will have from March onwards. I've driven the car and it's a great drive so I'm not just an apologist. What I am is an entrepreneur and a disruptor and know where Fisker comes from in a cut-throat industry full of sharks. This reviewer knew that his review would be damaging - a short-term win for him maybe but long-term pain for Fisker. I don't respect that.
Cars needing software updates just doesn't seem right to me.
I own a Tesla, and their software updates are great and make the cars better!
I agree. It could potentially force the person to update on pain of losing their transportation (particularly in places that don’t have public transit.) it’s a violation of consent
Welcome to the 21st Century.
Working in IT, i get it BUT, and this is a BIG BUT, there is always a chance it could brick your car. Like phones and servers...if you dont test it before pushing it to production...it could be awful. Fixing things on the fly is pretty awesome...but you have to trust the company.
nor i.
Car companies took a page out of the book of video game development by releasing an unfinished product and then promising their customers with future updates that will fix things
Boy, I sure do love a future of empty promises!
That's tesla's entire FSD strategy lol
best selling model of 2023! will ppl learn in 2024 or will they be crowned again?
@@ShihanQu FSD is early access. Just like when you buy an EA game on Steam, they are very clear that it's an unfinished product at the moment and you are buying in early on the development cycle. Nothing wrong with that. If you only want finished products, don't buy early access.
@@catbert7There is something wrong with that imo because it's a car, not a game. It should be released finished just like the plane you fly with.
Imagine buying a car and waiting for the DLC to drop
People already do it!
thats what new cars are now. they dont sell cars without computers anymore and those computers rarely have working software before theyre sold. its just like gaming actually lol
And they have subscription services on the car as well. Next up we will be getting some XP boosters and battle passes as well.
Fuq that
Yea screw that i am never gonna buy a car that needs updates for its software fuck that. I don't mind EV's but to me they have just gone to overdesign zone hard with most of them where only EV's that i would actually drive are the senior scooter three wheelers or EV's from early 90s all of them are just way too filled with useless tech that just ups the price and i would never ever even use but the car would still have to have all of it in working condition because of yearly inspection.
The fact that multiple car companies are selling cars that need major software updates post-launch is crazy to me
Everything is in beta now. Even cars. What, you died? Sorry!
I love post launch updates. I hate that it's used to make up for unfinished software.
It started in the video game industry and then took over the auto industry like a virus
A gamified experience haha
next they'll be charging for dlc...
Who’s here after Fisker filed for bankruptcy 😂
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Insane of them to not want you to review it as they do not see it as ready but are willing to charge customers 75k for it. Absolutely right of you to review the product they have chosen to sell to customers
greed
company is gonna fail if this is already their attitude
@@slick3996
WSJ saying Fisker may file for bankruptcy.
You keep missing the point over and over - he was offered latest car software, chose old one intentionally to do it down. So - given that most would-be owners would never see what he’s reviewed (except the good stuff) it makes the review vindictive.
@@CathodeRaze are you a Fisker executive or investor? this story is not accurate
I feel like they really pissed him off by trying to prevent him from reviewing it lol
They knew they shipped a terrible product and weren't keen on a large reviewer bringing things to light. If you scour around the internet, you'll see plenty of lukewarm/bad reviews. Even the Fisker subreddit is constantly filled with posts containing gripes/issues/errors about the vehicle + not great company servicing.
Fisker has been fighting to keep any real reviewers from getting into an Ocean. I am disappointed that this review did not include him testing the Ocean on a dirt road, not one single photo exists of this so called SUV driving where an SUV is supposed to be able to go, nine months after deliveries started.
That is where they made a huge mistake! Even apple doesn't stop him from criticism
@@mtawali13 Oh come on, no one does any real criticism of Apple, if you do you don't get shipped products and don't get invites to Apple events. He may get away with a little more than the average person but he still toes the line.
@@venom5809 agreed.
people in 10 years trying to sell their Oceans, "how many boosts does it have left?" lmaoooo
It is actually a good statistic. I’d not buy one with below 400. I like they put the counter. Other cars has got it hidden.
Ten years? That’s optimistic 😂
@@10secondsrule A counter is fine, a limit which is what this is, is not.
32 left 😭🤣
@@TheGamingNorwegianI think they should just give you a warning popup every time you boost after 500 uses. You can still use it, but the car will inform you that it could cause damage or wear to the drivetrain and youd have to confirm that you are willing to risk that. Completely locking the you out of the feature doesn’t seem right for something that you own.
They filed for bankruptcy recently. 🙃
I love how the tablet screen rotation is motor driven but it doesn't communicate with the tablet computer at all, and relies on the tablet sensors to react. So you have to wait three times for rotation: the long button press, then the physical rotation, then the software rotation.
its a dynamic system, so when you roll in a crash it rotates with you
As a hardware engineer this is just lazy engineering.
I can see the gaps in the sub-contracting
@@dankness6495it’s infuriating bc you can’t just rotate it, you have to push a button SO WHY NOT HAVE THE BUTTON COMMUNICATE WITH THE TABLET????
just shake the car so it will recognize the new orientation faster... works on my smartphone, so...
for the 499 burst i think you have to watch an ad to refill it 😂😂😂
DLC for your car
"Please say 'McDonalds' to refill one burst"
😂😂
I really hope this is a joke
@@No1_sp3cia1 It is but unfortunately with todays reality not a far fetched one. We dreamed of flying cars and instead we got pre-release cars that can't be touched by mechanics that need 2-3 years patches to get decent with microtransactions and blue screens and OS learning just to turn the air-con on or lower the radio volume.
Sad state of affairs really.
It's incredible (to me) that car infotainment systems (from all brands) are still so slow/crappy. We've had tablets and phones with a LOT more functionality for decades now for less than $200.
Ok but the industry is not in the biz or making hardware and software for infotainment systems. They will get better with time.
"they will get better with time"
we've been hearing that for like 10 years now @@BoondockSaintHere
Most cars are running dated SoCs to save money, like from a decade ago or more. I think Tesla is one of the few exceptions.
@@guitarazn90210 yeah that kinda is the point OP was tyring to make. We've had cheap but reasonably powerful SoCs for YEARS now yet car manufacturers end up using the slowest one they can find
Cut costs.
Try going 90mph in a school-zone with it!
Why can't companies just finish a product before they start selling it?
The life cycle of technology is faster than the time it takes to design and test a complex computer system so by the time the car is ready to go, the original software or technology is outdated
ppl accepted this way for many products since decades, and now complaining autistic about a single start up doing so.
ppl also belive in Capitalism which enforce companies to go this way for financial conditions in this system.
So what we should really complain about?
It's a cashflow problem. You can only produce this car at a reasonable price once you have large sales/production numbers, which needs a large investment. You're basically saying you'll outcompete all existing companies with your killer new feature --- because if it's something the others thought of, then they have the advantage of being established (in workspace, logistics, dealernetwork, troubleshooting/maintenance, ... all those things you have to start from scratch). But we don't know if your killer feature, or actually your new mixture of pros/cons (price, quality, features, style, ... ), will take off! You don't get a blank check, you need to argue for every $million investment --- but until you do the actual thing you do not know what things will cost in time and money, and something will go wrong (bad weather? bankrupt supplier?) that you cannot ask a budget for; so you are by definition short of budget. So you must buy from an established company, or find a startup with a ridiculous no-questions-ask unlimited funding billionaire supporter.
Another . method is the MVP concept, just test the core features, everything else doesn't have to be perfect, of course that's the prototype and u apply it to a select people who are aware of it, not the fucking product itself, it's happening every where now
Because millions of anxious and excited noobs are locked in a permanent buying-frenzy.
I am a Fisker Ocean One owner and I feel like everything you commented on is valid. The fob sucks, the lack of saving my drive modes, the crazy flashing errors I get constantly…it’s unique for sure.
Though I enjoy every moment I’m able to drive it. It’s a unique experience I can’t get enough of. I welcome the honest commentary on the vehicle and I hope the negative commentary forces them to address some of these long standing issues
A "big" TH-camr should get the attention of fisker hopefully and they should fix these issues ASAP
Yeah watching this review. I do still kind of want an Ocean. This thing could be incredible.
Even if it had launched without issues, Fisker is not in a good financial position and is likely to go under. Magna (their manufacturing partner) will be fine and probably sees the writing on the wall.
I came to the comments Just to see one of these comments lol
@@ChipsCSTcan't believe you paid for a Fisker
This kind of thing reminds me back in the day of early video games, when internet wasn’t a thing. Game companies mostly only released when the bugs were all worked out, but when the internet was a normal thing, all sorts of companies were like “release it, we can patch it later” seems like the same thing with cars now.
Nooo, Users have always been Beta Testers.
It's this way for a reason. These companies are under enormous pressure to recoup investment in labor and materials and equipment costs, and it's impossible to do that when you aren't selling products. I understand the need to get these things out there and start down the road to making the company profitable, but there's a limit to the number of incomplete systems and bugs consumers will tolerate before your brand is written off as garbage and then all of that work starts going down the drain.
th-cam.com/video/XLXt_TEAD68/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Mad1Xn4o__MCKJsM
all AAA games these days
@@arau8310 bro, look at renault-nissan alliance, they produce good cars and back in the days - they were even INVINCIBLE, like for real. No squeaks, no rust, no bugs, just straight good cars. Is that hard to do like that? i get the point "if it sells in that condition - why improving things? But i don't get the point why no one sells it back, until it will be done. Why just complay about it on the internet?
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A digital limit on launch control on your OWN car is insane.
You can have more added. They want to check systems in the car after 500 uses to make sure everything is good before the owner has more boosts added.
“For only $200 a year you can upgrade to the unlimited launch package”
-fisker eventually, probably
@@jilliannequiroz4310does it cost money ?
Didn't the Nissan GTR have a similar counter?
I think you're also living on a different planet o: owning something in this day and age doesn't exist anymore~ you're just allowed to use it.
fisker isn't particularly known for their quality. or their reputation. or anything really.
Maybe for being a bit shady?
@Kodakicy wouldn't be the first time. they went under after the fisker karma in 2014. the ocean only exists under the fisker name because henrik fisker loves losing money and decided to start a second car company also named fisker in 2016. technically the karma and the ocean are made by different companies.
@@lbgstzockt8493 i wouldn't even say that. i don't think they really do anything malicious, they just aren't very good at making cars.
They definitely have a reputation... just not a positive one :D
But he designed the Z8, so still one of the greatest people in the car industry!
The sunroof opening with all the other windows opening is a heat dump mode for a very hot summer day. You get in the truck, on a very sunny summer day, and it's a 120 degrees inside, this opens everything up and gets the heat out quick, so the ac unit does not have to work as hard to cool the inside of the truck.
Calling the Model 3 "The Perfect Starter EV" and then calling this the "Worst Car I've Ever Reviewed" is insane! Just how much Tesla stock do you own Marques?
My 2011 honda pilot touring had this option
no shit sherlock
Yeah I found that very odd to call it a quirk. Seems to me a lot of engineering went into making what is a great feature
It might also have something to do with buffeting you get in some cars when only one window is open.
This is the worst car because he can't go over 100mph in it
12:13 IMO you should get full power when you floor the acceleration pedal on any car, on any driving mode. Because you wouldn't floor it if it wasn't for an urgent need to do so. And you don't want to fiddle with driving modes when it's urgent to floor the pedal
By "fiddle" you mean pressing one button with your thumb?
@@venkinta3343yes that should not be a thing.
You floor a pedal cause you want 100% of the car on your back that’s it, no extra steps if you are in an emergency situation
Totally agree with this. Or, just always leave it on sport or whatever and only floor it when you need it. "Eco" mode is just keep your foot out of it.
Quite concerning that Marques wants to handicap his performance on the public highways because he wants to "Chill". Yes, I have my car in Eco mode permanently, it runs on two cylinders when I'm cruising at certain revs/speed without change, but I can floor it and the power will be there just like whenever I need it.
I reckon he'd realise the stupidity of what he said if we pointed out that in Chill Mode, the brakes would be capped too, so that emergency stop requires you to fiddle with a button and cycle menu.
yeah lets just get rid of driving modes so all cars use max fuel, and you cant turn down acceleration, like valet mode
Classic example of a car thats designed on computer and never been prototyped to find all the human interaction flaws.
oh hey leo, thanks for making my childhood cool man
Or when you use generative AI to create a CarOS
This feels more like someone took the normal "We'll fix it after launch" approach I see in software and tried applying it to a physical item.
This is either the devs running out of time, or not having the QA and resources they need.
@@Internatubenot possible.
wow
Having worked in automotive software validation for years, THANK YOU for expressing how these "minor annoyances" can totally ruin the driving experience. They're not minor. They're very big deals, especially when they distract the person who's supposed to be piloting a dangerous, powerful machine through an uncontrolled environment.
That said, it sounds like they know they rushed it out, they were trying very hard to keep this crapware away from you, and that tells me they're taking the issues seriously. If 2.0 fixes some things, 2.1 should fix even more.
Maybe in a few years it'll be worth owning.
Us devs hate it even more than you QA people do. This happens when mgmt comes up with ridiculous timelines and refuses to delay, resulting in releasing half-baked shit cuz the investors need their money!!! Multi-industry standard at this point and it's pathetic
Especially at a price tag of almost 40k
I test drove one with the buggy software. It's a great drive solid build and I'd rather have it with bugs as part of the 'movement' than wait for it all to be ironed out just perfect. Fisker's service has also not been mentioned but have been very attentive to owners with issues.
The only really "minor" issue is the solar roof monitoring. I'd forget about it and wouldn't care. But the other ones? Those are actual asset swap videogame bugs.
The one he drove is like $70k!
Anyone here after finding out Fisker just filed for bankruptcy?
Из России сюда зашла после новости о банкротстве Фискер 😊
"When you open the tray, you see what you desire the most on it"
Marques - Phone, iPad, Laptop
Me - McNuggets with ketchup
Why Ketchup... Sweet N Sour so much better :/
that stuff is disgusting
Dumbledore gonna have to move the tray to another room
The pattern on that glass roof would drive me insane. It’s so busy and I can’t imagine the fluttering shadows it would cast inside while driving.
It's a solar panel... pretty sure it's not transparent. Also, with the driver being at the front of the car, and only barely seeing any of the interior while driving, except in your peripheral visiion, how would you notice any shadows it casts?? Are you such a distracted driver that you are constantly looking around your interior instead of ahead of you?
Did you.....watch the video?@@moogle68
@@moogle68 8:09 I'd love to try it out but it seems like light would shine through and hit passengers
@@moogle68you can clearly see the pattern in the scenes where he's sitting in the backseat. It is quite visible.
@@moogle68It's transparent between the solar panels. You can see it on Marques's head when he's sitting in the back.
i would have never watched this if it werent for the company trying to silence this review
Same
The Streisand Effect
How would you like it if you as a software engineer had spent the last 6 months on your baby sorting out all the issues only for some influencer to ignore the offer to see your hard work?
@@CathodeRaze you’re a dummy. The engineer came out plenty of time and never fixed the issue. All the sudden they get a bad review and they send out their senior engineers to fix it. Don’t be silly
@@CathodeRaze ill be ashamed. Ill be mad at whoever greenlit it to be sold publicly.
Last thing id feel tho is anger towards the reviewer. If we watch the same video, it’s clear that the ‘influencer’ was trying his hardest to find a silverlining on this car. If anything, the ‘influencer’ went easy on it.
Who’s here after finding out they’ve just filed for bankruptcy?
I worked at GM on one of their (web) software teams and they started rerouting all ton of software people toward what they called “software defined vehicle.” The issues shown in this video iterate exactly why the idea of that made my skin crawl.
A vehicle is first and foremost a means of transportation. Software features should enhance and add to that experience after (and ONLY after) all the basic features found in cars from the ‘90s (or earlier for that matter) are absolutely rock solid.
Technology, especially in a personal transportation setting, should get out of the user’s way and make using things less complicated and cumbersome, not more.
Simplified usage is what I also think should be the goal here
perfectly said @dmoster
There's clearly a good and a bad way to do it. Tesla did it right, fisker did not. Idk if this can be fully attributed to the approach.
@@kiikoh it sure is scary for the makers, investors and consumers(vehicle owners) to find them self in this situation.
Yeah car companies are drooling over the idea of being able to have a standardized EV chassis for all their vehicles and then "define" each specific car/SUV/Truck via software. Everything from the handling characteristics, performance, features....etc.
Where the battery sled or Skateboard only differs by the number of electric motors and size of the battery pack. And then you just plot down whatever body type/chassis on top of that as standardized "sled".
"This is the worst car I have ever reviewed",......... but in the end " Fiskar I'm rooting for you". This guy genuinely knows his business.
The problems are not physical, so they can be corrected after the car is out. If the problems were hardware related, it would be completely different.
@@RmnGnzlz Lmao this isn't a video game where they patch shit after you buy the product. If they're careless enough to ship bad software when you're buying it, you bet your ass they'd do it again in the future
@@turningmememachine7256 Patching after you buy the product is literally what over the air updates are kid.
@@turningmememachine7256 It’s true that the software should’ve been MUCH better when they released this car but it honestly is kinda like a video game. No matter how good the software initially is it’s always going to need to be updated and get bug fixes/improvements.
@@turningmememachine7256are you still in 2010 or something
10:30 me looking at the tray: "for food"
marques looking at the tray: "ipad and laptop"
exactly lol i would use that tray all the time
That tray is an awesome idea, I hope more cars will have it. TIME TO EATTTT BRO
To be fair the glovebox missing doesn’t matter to me as much in 2024 what do people even keep in there anymore ? I have like paper copies of car repair work and registration paperwork but all of that is digital anyways I would rather have that tray 100%
@@whoareyou60Guns
@@whoareyou60gun :P
Also registration and insurance is better to have physically, it can't run out of battery and cops will like it better.
I also keep a little thing that reads the fault codes of my vehicle, and an actual pair of gloves (wow, imagine lol) and an ice scraper in mine. Storage in vehicles, especially something as ubiquitous as a glovebox, is a wierd thing to remove. Especially in an electric car, where less room is taken up by the motor and battery than is taken up by an engine, gas tank, and transmission.
Oh plus, you could keep the globebox and just have a tray extend out of it or above it. Wouldn't even take up that much extra room. The tray is nice tho.
Who came here after seeing the Fisker bankruptcy news?
Dude the tray part killed me. Wtf lmao no glove box, just two different trays
An envelope goes into the tray. an ENVELOPE!!!!!
And my car is a whole lot tidier for the lack of trash zones. Sometimes you literally have to think outside the box.
Yo that revelation was UNHINGED
@@CathodeRaze If you're putting trash in your glove box that's a you problem, not a glove box problem
@@darwinism8181 It's a kids problem - in the rear mostly as many SUV drivers could testify. Drink bottles squeezed into seat pouches and snack wrappers etc. I like it clean and not too many storage areas to dump stuff in the car. Myself - I'm tidy.
Its a decent review. Their reaction is what made this whole situation sketchy. Like what else do they have to hide.
Or simply titling the video the way he did for clicks. It's very intent based. This guy's review, which sounded more. Positive than negative, hinged in bad software. Basically Tesla MO for more than a decade. He's a Tesla simp... Nuff said
Yeah, I came here because of the noise in the media. The review is completely fine, the title is click bait. Demanding to wait for a magical '2.0 update' is completely unreasonable however. If they have released the product for customers to buy, that is what should be reviewed, not some promised future dream. And I learned I will never buy this car, as it has way too many technical gismoz that are so custom, they are gonna be really expensive to repair when they stop working. It's none the less impressive if they managed to release this car if it lasts long and the driving is good.
@@Growlizing it drives like a dream. It's build solidly. The software got better 2.0. Wait a year and dive in... But the car is smooth as butta and turns a lot of heads
@@sohailakmal3384he was very negative about the cyrbertruck, you are just making stuff up
@@johnramos8703 that vehicle is not meant to be taken seriously. If you have 100k plus to throw away... You're OK with wasting money. Way better cars out there for that price tag. Also, this dude ain't a car reviewer. I watched a couple of reviews of his after the fisker review... They're weak. He doesn't know how to review them. And I'm not mad. I don't live in the internet. I think it's funny how overblown Wall Street and simps worked to tank fisker... Albeit with valid concerns. I recall Tesla going through a lot of this over the past decade. This is nothing new for early adopters
Not including a glovebox took “courage”.
On the trim being reviewed at least, there are compartments under the front seats that work great as glovebox substitutes.
Tbf Meecedes EQ series doesnt have a glove compartment either
Cops love it when they ask for your papers and you reach under your seat lol @@Andy-ho1bn
@@Andy-ho1bnyeah anytime I wanna show my license and registration let me just reach down bolow the seat instead of "most natural unsuspicious" position
@@onkarmane8760
Lol!
Cop: “He’s reaching under the seat! Call for backup! Hands where I can see them. Get out of the car! You have the right to remain silent!”
Not to contradict, but Marques here keeps saying Fisker is a new company, and here I am wondering if I hallucinated James May driving a Fisker Karma on TG back in 2012.
yeah I raised my eyebrow when he said ‘new’ because I remember coming across the Karma for the first time in my local mall and that was around 2014 I think? Looks like the company has had a lot of financial problems in the past.
edit: I mean I guess it’s relatively new compared to Tesla.
Previous company was Fisker Automotive, and went bankrupt in 2014, assets sold to a Chinese company. New company is Fisker Inc started in 2016, so, do with that what you will 😂
@@aluneburgeven still, for a car company a decade is not a lot of time. Ford, GM, and Hyundai have been around for exceptionally long times. I kind of took it as “new compared to everyone else.”
yeah that was a previous iteration of Fisker. same founder & logo but new company, technically.
@@aluneburgIf that's the case, isn't that still a bad sign? They failed before, and here we are again and this product is half baked. Doesn't look good for the future if you wanted to buy one.
That "I had to drive home in silence" felt personal
Hello darkness my old friennnnddd
Very true, who in their right mind listens to the radio??😂
My amp went to shit in my model 3 at some point. And same 🤣🤣
@@armandoperalta6931 buy a boom box for backup 😂
Ah, its great training for when you're married.
My neighbour has this car. I was shovelling snow in our shared driveway, and the car suddenly just unlocked the doors and exposed the door handles for no reason 😂 It seems to have huge issues with the cold climate in Norway.
Lmao
it needs an Olso mode to complement its California mode
Your neighbor probably butt-unlocked the car with the FOB in their pocket. I've seen this several times with newer cars. Sometimes it pops the trunk as well, super annoying, and a security risk.
Not that bad, some EVs are not even able to get the doors open since the door handles got frozen. Apparently, this car does not have such issue.
EVs are shit in really cold climates no matter what brand we are talking about. Imagine a proper snowstorm that blocks traffic in the middle of nowhere? Batteries will run out and everyone stuck is seriously fucked.
I find it humorous that Fisker have called you a Mouthpiece over this video, and yet everything you say is fully reasoned out. They should do better.
I think the guy said he wasn’t a mouthpiece referring to himself and he was an service engineer.
@@allenseeallendo5844he said “he’s just a mouthpiece” and called him “some kid”
@@allenseeallendo5844no no no watch the video he called mk a mouthpiece
@@allenseeallendo5844no he call Mk that
Mouthpiece isn't an insult. It just means someone who voices out information.
Any one here because of Mr whos the boss
🙋🏾♂️
Same here.
Meeee
🤚🏽
No
Anyone here from the fisker call
Yep
Yep 🤣
I feel like that guy was just trying to fullfill a work order but he came off like a hit man.
what happened?
Yurrrr.
As a wise man once said "Fiskers don't make noise when they startup, just so ya know"
It's say that's quite childish
all i could htink about. wonder what car he had
TOP OF THE HOLY TOTEM!!
reference od the year right here
RI RI RI RICH FOREVER A MILLION WAS NOT THE QUOTA
Are you saying that because you can’t go 91 in a 35 children zone?
so he hasn’t driven a vinfast yet 😅
tbh they fixed a lot of the original issues now
@brightsunsingh so everyone is allowed to fix their issues? Car manufacturing is not easy. Ford has over 100 years and still makes errors.
People make TH-cam videos like it's gospel.
Watch the videos and the title is click bait.
@@BrightsunSingh It still has the original issue though - the cost.
Ouch
Right? This isnt even a terrible car. Just maybe some quirks and early software
Big mistake to a company rush to get a unfinished product into the market. It's sign of financial despair. If they don't act soon, the brand is doomed.
You where correct sir, well done.
This has been true forever: Tucker, Deloren, Bricklin etc.
Well that wasn’t nearly as bad as I was expecting based on the chatter.
Agree! The car actually looks awesome. It's a shame it's close to going bankrupt.
@@dexter19885yeah, but what EV manufacturer with a possible exception of Tesla isn't? Fisker was still the best of the rest and I would hate to see them go out of business, but the financials of it are just cruel.
I also expected it to be a down right terrible product based on the chatter, but it seems to be more small nuances than major defects. But for the $70K MSRP, I can see why it's unacceptable these faults were not corrected prior to being sold to the public. The biggest fault of this vehicle...it's an EV.
Same. It looks awesome to me
It dosent feel when you are hearing but when you will use it, it surely is gonna piss you off
It's a very good review by the way. Reviewers should tell the bad side of the products not only the good. Before buying expensive things nowadays people searching details online including reviews. They trust those reviews. You have done your responsibility to your trusted community. You have saved their money from buying bullshit products from fake manufacturers. Thank You again MKBHD. ❤
I love solar panels on cars. Not for adding range, but for running ventilation during the summer. Helping circulate air makes a huge difference on how hot the interior gets.
I hope solar cars start becoming more popular!
Not just that, but to help with just general phantom drain especially in colder climates
There is a reason they are hardly used on electric cars. They are not big enough to provide any meaningful amount of power for how much they cost to manufacture. 2-3 miles of range a day, and I'm assuming that is only in perfect conditions, is almost nothing. Car companies would rather spend that money on a slightly bigger battery.
You know sunroofs/moonroofs have existed for a long time. My none electric car has a sunroof.
Yes, I think this is the real reason the car does not display stats on solar charge...it would be laughable and folks would realize it's a gimmick.
The 500 digital limit on launch is interesting because manufacturers know these limits, and have these limits, but typically don't show consumers / owners. For example, most cars have a "service every 10000km" etc. And most manufacturers will know that something like a maximum power launch will destroy part x or y in 500 (or whatever amount) of repetitions. Its interesting the Fisker are letting you see that. Its like a manufacturer saying "Trash your car if you like, but here's the damage you're doing".
Absolutely. For example the original Audi RS5's powertrain was designed to withstand roughly 3 hours of wide open throttle. The lead engineer of this project was a supervisor at our university and told us about this.
@@harrypjotr2381what school is this? Interesting project.
I doubt it was intended in this way but it can definitely help a used car buyer know whether the car was "lightly driven".
I hate that. If i buy a car with launch control, i want a car that is built for it and not some that just tolerates it a few times. I wish there were a damage indicator like in video games. My car is sending enough data to them that they could know when a part is probably going to fail depending on my driving behavior. Dealer told me to not do launch control too often if i want to keep it longer. Its used. I dont know what the previous owner did.
Built for the forces would be better but an indicator is nice.
@@harrypjotr2381do you mean 3 hours total or 3 hours at one time?
That "I had to drive home in silence" felt personal 😂
I have to wonder why he didn't turn on the radio
If I can't play my music then I better drive home in silence 😂
@@MikeDawson1 bc the radio is trash
@@davidarcher8126 tbh I just play the music from my phone
reminds me of trying to pair with my 2015 honda civic. still to this day i use aux because the pairing works only half the time, and when i get it to work it has a noticeable 2-3 second delay
It looks good, drives well, lots of space, and yet, is the worst car ever?
Have you reviewed any Jeep products? Mitsubishi SUV? Nissan Juke?
Oh well, looks like they're done. Congrats.
He gave an honest review. They wouldn’t have gone bankrupt if they made a good product. Blaming a TH-camr for being honest and not the car company for rushing a unfinished car is crazy.
That 500 boost limit is insane. It would make me never want to use it at all.
You can probably get a subscription plan, $110 a month for all the boost you want.
Hyper mode is a performance model y. Boost is something extra and you can show friends.
@@sinAnon6689 sure but just a count would be fine in that case. He also said life of the vehicle not battery.
Insane? It's insane it even has that insane boost launch. It's a freaking bone they're throwing you. They could just remove it, not have to worry about the wear and warranty and still sell a crazy fast car.
You really don't need the boosts. All the power you need is in the other driving modes.
There’s this ongoing trend in American product development where the venture capital or board members have unrealistic expectations about a product release cycle, and I think this is yet another victim of the “get this to market now” mentality. It’s so shortsighted and I doubt there would ever be any complaints that they waited until the product was ready and it actually succeeded, but the people behind the money just underestimate how public perception of a launch can create an unnecessary hole for them to climb out of. It’s a setback that’s easily avoided simply by allowing more time. The public should never see a MVP, but that’s almost exclusively what the public sees these days and it’s not pretty.
You would think after seeing the trends and how this f's up releases those people would learn their lesson but I guess not. I guess sometimes the workers just overwork themselves or just produce excellence by a mix of skill and luck and they get away with short production cycles enough to not get the point.
I'm a game dev and yeah this absolutely screamed "launch now, patch later" mentality. It's part of the twisting nest of thorns that is slowly choking the life out of the game industry, and I'm sad (though not at all surprised) to see it getting it's hooks into automotive now that's it's so software focused. Hopefully they learn better lessons than we did; I feel like the average soccer mom is gonna be MUCH more turned off of spending $30k+ on a buggy mess of a vehicle they expect to drive for 10 years than the average gamer would on spending $60 on a crappy game.
You aren't wrong. But when you are dealing with Startups and Funding, "get this to market now" can be part of the Make/Break of a company.
If their issues were primarily software related, then they know they can address that along the way. But if it's a hardware issue, that can tank them in the long run. So you know where all the primary focus and funding goes too.
Companies do forget that software is important but it takes teams of people to get there. But companies don't see software or IT development as well funded as it should be.
Or better yet, make sure you have enough money to bring it to market and shut your mouth until you know it's ready.. So sick of hearing marketing hype about things that are years and years away from being ready
That's because it's based on failed technology. Having a battery sealed into the car so you have to sit and wait while it get's recharged, is as stupid as driving a gasoline powered car, and then having to go to a refinery and wait while they manufacture the gasoline to refuel it. EV's should have been designed to exchange standardized battery packs at service stations, and the consumer gets charged for the energy which has been used up to that point; the ' used battery pack' gets exchanged for a fully charged one, which should only take a minute, with the battery pack on a sliding rack under the car that connects to the vehicle with bayonet connectors. In and out of the service station in minutes or even seconds. but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, we have to cowtow to the rich vehicle designers who want to maintain a steady state of their own proprietary designed batteries that have to be recharged at a 'recharging station' of their own design, so they can continue to get richer, meanwhile the consumers get stuck twidling their dick waiting for their cars to recharge, sometimes going up in flames because it necessitates a 'quick charge' state in those onboard batteries, resulting in fires.
The Streisand effect
I heard this car was bad but now I have to watch this, even though I wasn't interested before.
you're not buying the car
Same, I don't even have a driver's license and tbh there were terms in the video I didn't even understand
@@rigah1I definitely won't be now!
"The Fisker Ocean is the worst car I've ever reviewed"
CyberTruck: "Hold my beer"
Nah for me cybertruck is not that bad
@@blazyegamer "Nah for me cybertruck is not that bad" LOL! Nice troll attempt there!
Red and blue flashing lights on the dash at night has to be one of the most ridiculous oversights I’ve ever heard of. Has nobody at Fisker ever driven a car before? Or are they unaware that cops exist?
I thought the same thing😂Those are two colors you never want to see when driving a car.
Seriously, that's intolerable.
They've actually been around for awhile
Not every contry use that conbination of colors though and/or have police cars hanging on every corner. Here it's just automatic speed/infraction control by radar and camera and you get the ticket in the "mail". If you don't pay it doesen't end up in court but is just deducted from your sallary or pension.
(and the busted taillight situation is a limited situation because of mandatory 2year inspection after 6years of age)
@grizzlyadams10dsfr
I’ve travelled to several countries and they all use blue and red
Being able to floor it in "Earth Mode" is probably a safety feature. Even if you are in eco-mode, you need to be able to access more acceleration in an emergency situation.
Exactly correct. If you want economy you don't FLOOR IT.
I would have considered it to be more of a comfort than a safety feature. I drive a BMW i4M50, which has a dual motor setup and 4 drivemodes. In eco-pro mode only the rear engine is on, in comfort mode both engines are used but limited to around 85% of the maximum power, sport mode is the same but different suspension setup, only in sport boost mode you can use 100% of the maximum power. Which means you would need to constanty switch between eco-pro and comfort or sport if you need more acceleration for overtaking and such. That is quite annoying, so I only use comfort for normal roads or sport boost on the autobahn. Having the option to drive in eco-pro and getting full power when flooring the pedal like the fisker seems like a more comfortable solution.
@@Genesis19623Of course it is a German who drives a BMW 😂 Das Auto!! 😊
It could be both. Having drive by wire opens up a bunch of possibilities for control response but also opens up a lot of design questions about user experience and safety. It's interesting to see how different design teams tackle the problem. @@Genesis19623
@@HueghMungusDas Auto is VW tho?
Maybe those trays are for rolling fats joints
Is that because it doesn't go 96 MPH in a 35 MPH zone?
I liked the high point when you said "Its not my policy to wait for SW updates and review as its being used by customers". I learnt something from that. "Never hold yourself down against anything".
Fisker’s: please wait for 2.0 🥺
MKBHD: no☝️
Video title: the _WORST_ car I’ve ever reviewed
Fisker’s: 👁️👄👁️
Imagine waiting for your car's DLC to drop 💀💀💀
@@ecab992they’re like “what’d you guys expect this was the beta”
it wasn't a beta, this car is for sale as is. then there will be a software update/@@Anywaays
But the money they get is not beta money 😅
One man kills a new company
I remember a guy near me had a Kisker Karma many years ago. He drove it for over a decade until the proprietary tires that were designed for it went out of production. Made each tire $2000
Genuinely shocked a karma went that long. I remember when they first started shipping them and the reliability disaster they were.
I'm genuinely wondering who would buy this fault-riddled crap box. Henrik Fisker maybe a great designer but he also has an astonishing and well-documented track-record as a failed automotive entrepreneur. No idea why anyone would give him more money at this point. Either as a customer or as an investor. I'll give Fisker another 12 months at most before they file for another bankruptcy.
Have a fisher karma now, does it have issues absolutely but it’s solid, as long as you expect quarks and issues from these new technology based cars you’ll be fine and happy. Use it as commuter car and get around 600 mpg
My dad drives one, terribly unreliable, where we were test driving one years before he bought one himself we broke down on the highway which has never happened to me outside of that one time. The one he own has issues with the ac
Proprietary tires? Yeah. That's definitely not a real thing. Rolls Royce and Bentley do the same thing. Yeah, if you want to stay under formal warranty, but if that's not a concern, a quality 3rd party tire is a quality 3rd party tire. Tactics like that prey on uninformed car consumers that don't know any better.
MKBHD gone and done it, Fisker has filed for bankruptcy. 🤯
Imagine after exceeding the 500 Limit, you have to pay for every extra Boost or get an "Unlimited Boost" Subscribtion like BMW does for Heated Seats. Then they really played the Subscribtion Game! The only better thing would be a limit for hard braking.
BMW gave up on the subscription model
@@dcsharp13qyes but Audi still has it😂
I think the boost thing should be limited to 2times per day or something and not a total one 🤷♂
😂 that sucks. Hopefully Audi drives protest that nonsense
Tesla sucks, sorry to disappoint. BYD is eating their lunch.
Dude, you pretty much just described most of the Aston Martin cars. in fact, not sure if you knew, Henrik Fisker was the original designer for the DB9/Vantage platform. i think it's kinda funny that a lot of the old "features" got carried over. not sure if he's just obsessed with those design choices or not. ie. everything from the tiny small visor/mirror -yes it really is that tiny inside an Aston Martin DB9/Vantage. i know this, because i have one - to the incredibly short range of key fob operating radius where you literately have to stand right next to the door to operate. I guess, Henrik Fisker always considered the fact that when you're an MI6 spy, you don't want to accidently unlock your top secret super car unless if you're right next to it. Instrumental software also doesn't always work as it should inside an Aston Martin. It seems that a lot of the issues with this car is software related, which is kinda sad. we live in a day and age now that most of our driving experiences are dictated by software. Although I think it's a bit harsh to title the video as the "worst car", i do think that they rushed the delivery of the Ocean. a lot of the annoyances seem to stem from bugs and poor interface experience that mostly resemble a beta software release. Here is to hope that they can turn it around because we only need more competition in this market place. because i really do not want to be just another Tesla driver.
he said the worst car HE ever reviewed. I've watched tons of his reviews, I trust and value his very informed opinion, and this man is so fair and optimistic in his delivery that i'd be willing to guess this car is probably worse then he let on. The fact that Aston Martin has any connection with this vehicle is totally irrelevant. What ever DNA was carried over from previous iterations does not address the present needs and desires of present day consumers. as for being an M16 spy?.....seriously?
Current Aston Martin Vantages use Mercedes electronics which work as well as anything out there. I have never had any problems with my 2022 Vantage key fobs. It is a fun car to drive and handles much better than the previous version. It is much easier to see out of than most cars.
haha yeah I agree, Marques just haven't reviewed a Vinfast car
Fisker has made it quirky for the sake of being quirky, they will never sell many, hardly any compared to Tesla because Tesla’s are sensible sorted and work every time
@@davedyer3654 I won't claim Tesla as sensible, they are simply experienced
As a safety feature, going full power 11:54 when flooring it makes total sense. AFAIK it’s called kick-down on most cars.
Different drive modes should change the acceleration response, except for situations when you floor it. When you see a truck heading up your way while doing a pass, you don’t want to be pressing any other extra buttons.
Love your work, Marques
I was thinking the same thing. My Zoe and Mg has the same thing, I just assumed all cars have it.
Going full power makes sense, going full power after a 2 second delay makes no sense.
@@Starblockss Maybe it's for all these bad drivers that mistake throttle with brake pedal 💀
💯 Agree, I dislike the Chill mode in my Model 3 for this reason. If I have an emergency pass at full throttle, it's got no kick down speed.
Wait til states like California(and I’m sure eventually others) mandate manufacturers to limit the max speed based on posted speed limits….
I saw an article that CA is already trying to get this passed.
"The Fisker Ocean is the worst car I've ever reviewed"
18th March 2024 - 'Fisker Files for Bankruptcy'
Interior designed by someone who exclusively travels by airplane
What's worse is that those tray table things could be installed in the seat gap. There's always filler space there... that place pens and french fries always find. A solution that covers that space would be interesting, and solve the "seat position" issue because it's attached to the seat rather than the center console.
Still way better than the interior of the cyber truck. From heads up display, physical controls, working back window and rear view mirror, no janky front windshield with huge corner blindspots. Tray is awesome idea.
They both share the tiny mirror though. And lack of glovebox is bad.
Outside this car is gorgeous. Although that's subjective.
Watching his review of the cybertruck and then this makes me think he's a Tesla shill. Cybertruck is objectively worse from a design standpoint (functionally and aestethically).
Software updates need to happen for this vehicle obviously. And thats unacceptable, but the issues shown were fairly minor. And sounds like most are/have alrdy been fixed. Screen takes 3 seconds to flip? My phone does too. Sometimes it doesn't flip at all. Complaining about having to keep foot on the brake like it's a deal breaker? Come on, man.
Meanwhile tesla praised while saying FSD is imminent for nearly a decade and charging 10-15k for it on every car. FSD is not coming. Tesla charging people for stuff they dont deliver is a huge part of the business. Not to mention the cybertruck is 2 years late, 20k more than advertised, and they've only managed to push out 1k vehicles so far. Oh I forgot, those late, higher cost vehicles don't come with basics like the hubcaps they've been advertising.
So pretty questionable giving Tesla a pass to roll out physical parts of the "truck" like the top light, hubcaps, extra battery (say goodbye to half of the trunk space that's already smaller than some compact cars), basic coating to prevent rusting (or $5k surcharge lol) after delivering the vehicle (how long after is not clear). Oh, not to mention the software patches Tesla also rolls out - not actual FSD though. Oh, and don't mention the pedestrians killed already.
Cool. Now I can pretend to be flying in an airplane because I can’t afford the airfare nowadays!
“Best back seat experience”. Mine was in a 1968 Oldsmobile Delta 88, lol.
By now you must be a great grandfather.
I can not like your comment as it is at 69, but yeah..mine was in 1996.., ;-)
HEYOOO!
@@johnmarten4184 Why? Could have been only yesterday 😉
LOVE IT!!!!
Hmm, a company releasing an untested/unfinished product.
Where have I heard this before?
Any Stellantis product produced over the last 20 years.
Tesla
any video game released in the last 15 years
Someone made a weird set of snickers some years back ! I think it goes by the name 251 or something like that 😅
who is here after the panels app fail? 😅😅😅
Thank you for putting the kilometre equivalents up! It really helps some of us put things into context.
Normalise editors who add kph/mph and other obvious data. It should be the default really, especially for profit making channels.
Normalize using the metric system (like Thomas Jefferson pushed for in the 1700’s) so there doesn’t need to have two measurements for the same thing.
yh you mean it helps literally the whole world apart from the US ahahah. They'll get to the metric system eventually I guess
There were all the problems I had with the Mercedes EQS. Bizarre UI choices, capacitive buttons that were difficult to use (owner’s manual: “use the very tip of your finger, not the pad - get rekt if you have long nails haha”), HVAC sporadically failed, screens sporadically blank out, Bluetooth random disconnects, Apple Play crashes, parking assist failures would require rebooting the car to be able to drive again, random accelerator attenuation at low speeds, drive mode reset every time you start the car, hill hold feature required an extra hard press on the brake, the alarm would go off if you were sitting in the car while it was off for 10+ minutes, you could only power off the car with the key fob, the lane keep feature would drift outside the lane, the doors were hard to open because the handles both locked and unlocked the doors when gripping it, the storage was ill-conceived, the personal preferences mostly didn’t work or were overridden by other preferences not tied to the profile, …. I’d hate to see what it was like during development when they thought it wasn’t ready for release! But it looked nice and the ride was nice and it had a Mercedes logo.
So, it was just an average Mercedes?
Mercedes got forced to make EQS like the other manufactors. EU rules, that would punish them if they didn't get elctrical cars on the road as due some penailty system based on how many internal combustion engines the sold.
So there is the answer on why the car had so many faults.
@@robina.jensen6114 Or it's just a Mercedes being a Mercedes.
All Mercedes are trash. Facts.
@@robina.jensen6114 The UX is the same as their ICE cars. I had some loaner hybrid SUV while the dealer put their mandatory ceramic coating on the EQS. It was awful, too. The drivetrain doesn’t have anything to do with, say, how they manage Bluetooth & Apple Play.
I suspect the real issue is that it’s an aging company that is largely coasting on their reputation as a luxury brand and getting by because people with money value the prestige and appearance over the day-to-day functionality.
@@robina.jensen6114yeah, blame EU for something Mercedes has complete control and therefore responsibility over..
So nice to see manufacturers getting the spotlight put on them for rushing to market products like this. I had a 2014 Infinity Q50S ten years ago and it had nothing but software problems. Camera wouldn’t load sometimes, backup lines took 90 seconds to load, dashboard would restart itself while driving, etc. There needs to be better accountability for things like this so keep up the great work at airing out their dirty laundry!
Well Nissan produces terrible cars so that isn’t a surprise.
I remember my 2019 Tesla model 3 screen rebooting the first day i got it. Tesla over the air updates eventually fixed it.
@@DarkRendition All Japanese cars have outdated electronics/software, but it's probably why their cars are reliable.
tha'ts why I never buy the first or 2nd edition of almost anything by the 3rd go around the bugs should be out
hahaha ngl it be humbling me sometimes whenever my Q50 does that.i still do love the car tho
This man killed a company lol
The company was doomed from the start
They ended themselves… he just held them accountable
The tray for the driver seat was pretty good. But the no glove compartment was weird.
Also i don't mind the Earth mode going full throttle when you floor the pedal. Sometimes you need full power suddenly without pressing a button first.
It has two glove compartments. One underneath each front seat. I guess he didn't find those...
They give you a tray to eat on but not compartment to put your food rubbish in after you're done.
Agree.. if you're jammin' your foot to the floor when you don't urgently need a boost of speed, why are you in Eco mode in the first place? I'd say that's a positive, not a fault
dude didn't know the car...there are 2 and plenty of storage in center. I expected him of all people to be better informed.
There’s 2 glove compartments
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If you're driving a car in eco mode, you still want to be able to access full throttle pretty much instantly if you need to get out of a pinch quickly. In all cars I've driven that have different driving modes, if you floor the accelerator (kick down mode), eco mode is bypassed almost instantly. That there is a significant delay before you get that in "earth mode", and that there seems to be a traction control issue (wheels spinning) is a safety issue.
Some business person pushed the car for sale when engineering was not ready
Seems to be the case with all electric cars, really. Software fine tuning is way harder because electronics can pretty much do anything you ask and it’s very easy to implement lots of stuff and then have it a mess instead of going with a little and be able to refine it.
Yeah, his name is Henrik Fisker
investors must be pleased
I believe that is accurate af. The decision meeting might have gone like: ok, it's crap right now ,but can we solve everything afterwards via ota? Gimme a yes or no. - noooooaaayyyeeess sir, boss sir.
Absolutely, I was part of a suppliers development team working on the fisker. Henrik said at kickoff he thinks that cars should be developed like mobile phones - in 18 months. That didn't age that well... 😅
This video destroyed Fisker’s reputation
IMO Yes.
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No, Fisker destroyed what little rep they had left. They did it to themselves.
That tray in the center console is the quirkiest thing I've seen in a car made in the past 10 years
It does seem kinda useful if you're eating, or want to have a laptop open when charging though, so I kinda like it. Though with the odd choice not to fit a glovebox, you do kinda need the space though.
Not only is the idea questionable, the most insane part is how weak it is. So weak that they have to put a warning label on it. I could probably justify giving up the space if it was a high quality and strong tray. But its not.
I’m a big fan of quirky things but, I genuinely can’t understand what the benefits are from most of these quirks.
It's the Wawa hoagie tray option.
if my memory from my time at ford serves me right, ford has something very similar in a lot of their higher end truck trims. i also recall there being a part number for something called a "tampon holder" (not joking) that you can order to put in where the tray would normally go.
@@WARnTEA 11 pounds is quite a lot for a tray to hold. Most airline trays cannot hold that much.
11:55 Regarding earth mode, the access still to full power does make sense to me, as a safety precaution. A situation I can think of is if you’re driving all chill, then you go to merge on a highway or for some reason need to ‘floor it’ to move out of the way of a dangerous situation, it will allow you to. There have been times I’ve used “eco” modes in vehicles when suddenly I do need to ‘floor it’ to avoid something, merge, or whatever the case may be and the power isn’t there to allow that. It can be a safety issue.
Exactly. Some of the nitpicking here is a little silly
@@chrismitchell4665 especially because there are more cars with the same nitpicking’s things…
I think the access to full power should be there, but the smoothness of the delay is a problem. The "slow" mode shouldn't break the tires loose after a long delay
Once upon a time, I reserved a Fisker Ocean with a $250 Deposit. Had a terrible experience trying to get any kind of information about delivery timing. I ended up cancelling my Reservation a few months later. Unfortunately, I also invested in Fisker and bought 2000 shares - worth about $300 now. On the verge of his second failure, I think it’s clear that Henrik Fisker is a dreamer and a brilliant conceptual Designer - but that doesn’t mean he knows how to build and lead an automobile company. He’s probably better suited as an R&D leader. Lesson learned.
I still have my reservation, I wonder if I should keep it for next gen or just cancel it.
@@NY2024CAcancel
@@NY2024CAI would cancel it and buy next gen it looks like Fisker is fucked
Lol i can't imagine treating you car like a smartphone, some people will only get to use 1 car their entire life, some people can't just buy a new car just because the manufacturer stopped supporting the car's operating system
The part about the Bluetooth problems and the camera errors would definitely have frustrated someone like me.
The more computerized a car is, the more annoyances you deal with. Imagine getting a car the price of a Corvette that comes with no Sync or cruise control, which I’ve literally seen on rentals, and being told it’ll come in a software update. What happens if they decide not to update it? They already got your money. Oh well, enjoy your rolling hunk of scrap electronics!
As a Fisker Ocean owner, I can say many points are valid. But updates and tech response for me has been good. Most of my issues have been resolved. I think if you were to go back and review the first Tesla, you would have seen a buggy mess as well. There are growing pains with any new vehicle company. But they constantly improve the car over the air, listen to community feedback, and the car is a blast to drive. For the boost thing, you can go past 500, but that voids the warranty if you are going ham on the car. I had to get a tech to fix the rear quarter panels not going down in CA mode too, but it works fine now. The weirdest issue I saw was you mentioned no glove box, but there is one under each seat. And the tray takes up some center console room, but there is insane CC room below the screen and underneath that area to make up for it.
I remember you couldn't take the Model 3 to a car wash because the cabin would flood lol.....
Grabbing that registration can get tricky 😅
The difference is that there as no EV competition for Tesla at the time. Right now there are many EVs that are solid so why would I go for Fiskar and feel like a test bunny.
@@adgdashaef I have a Jaguar Ipace. During the first 24 months of ownership it spend at least 10 months at the Jaguar dealer .... This is a car from a reputable, high end car company...
@@haraldBenningidk bro, maybe dont buy a jag
Imo, if Fisker follows through with the software updates, and continues to update and sort out the quirks, I could see myself choosing this over a bunch of other competitors. Some of the quirks like the tray honestly seem pretty useful for eating on the go, working on the go, etc. but then stuff like the the really slow and buggy software definitely needs to be updated. And not having a glove box on the passenger side is kinda weird, that's the only physical quirk that bothers me. But the other stuff like the overall design of the vehicle, the console area design with the physical buttons, rear seating space, comfortable-looking seats, solar panel roof, and better range, are all positives to me. I'm rooting for them, but they need to follow through with the software tuning.
Keep dreaming this company likely won’t exist anymore soon. They are in trouble
I feel pretty much the same way. The lack of a glovebox and rear pockets is boggling, but I can live around it. I keep too much crap in my car anyways, maybe it'd be good to cut down. I feel like he was harsher than normal on software issues, is it just me? Tesla bias maybe? :\ I have a friend with 4 tesla's in his family and those have ALWAYS been buggy software wise (admittedly not to the level of the Ocean), but the company literally asked him not to review it until the 2.0 update, and he did it anyways. He acknowledged it just enough to seem unbiased. This is the first time I think I'm hearing about this car, so it's odd to see it judged so harshly. My friend had a tesla about a year after they started selling them, and it was about just as buggy. Now they make the most popular car in the world. Give em a chance, my dude.
Fisker rationale is that most people hardly ever use the glove box and that it's basically there to store the owners manual. Marques did a fairly solid review of the car, however forgot to mention that there is storage space under the passenger seat that is meant to be used in place of the glove box.
There are 2 “glove boxes” under the front seats of the car he’s driving. He didn’t research the car before driving it so he doesn’t know. I actually have an Ultra which I chose to buy that does not include the boxes under the seats. I do not miss the glove box at all.
Bro this is car company that released a $75k car full of bugs. Even if they iron out all the problems with the software (which I doubt since even big manufacturers suck with software), its such a big red flag noone should ever buy this
Fisker bankruptcy filed. Well done!
Seems like a really nice car once they fix all the software issues. If it really gets that much range then that's great! I'm curious to know how much the solar roof adds to the efficiency
Can't be all that much. It's a relatively small area (perhaps comparable to a single residential solar panel), and it's not angled optimally towards the sun. I'm curious to see the numbers on that as well.
Backstreet coders will fix that index to unlimited, just like the early Gaming machines and flippers…
It's just sad that they rushed to market with the overall car software in such a horrible state. The massive screen delay when switching from landscape to portrait is just plain embarrassing. Things like that point to bad core software architecture, not just simple bugs. Yikes.
From owner manual… Solar Panel
“On the Central Touchscreen, select > Energy and swipe left to view the Live solar energy draw rate, as well as SolarSky energy gains by Week, Month, Year, or Lifetime of your vehicle.
Note: Some features may only become available in future releases.
I think the reason that full power is available in "earth" mode, is for an emergency? I.E. you can floor it and get out of a situation, no matter what drive mode you're in.
Yeah that was a weird point to criticize
I think he meant that it is rather unbalanced or unstable, but you definitely make a great point. Emergency flooring is very much something to keep available
Yep, the "oh shit" mode is definitely useful if some crazy shit behind you happens.
As I pointed out under the other comment that said the same thing:
That doesn't add up as a safety feature because it still takes a few seconds for the full power to come in. If you are in a situation where you have to floor it to escape and your car doesn't take off immediately, then that defeats the purpose, no?
Thats not what he said. He said he floored it, took off super sow than after a couple seconds launched out of nowhere with tire spinning.
Fairly new to channel, I have watched a few of your videos, just saw this video when I was searching for FISKER BANKRUPTCY, so your video comes up on a mainstream media story, which I thought was pretty impressive. Great, clear cut, no nonsense reviews. New subb here, wonderful job!
It seems like a great car that needs some polishing and bug fixing.
Well said. At least he need to make his review based on the latest SW updating.
Yeah. I still want one. And I'm excited for the Alaska.
@@OldManYellsAtClouds this software version is not what they are selling now. … that’s the thing. The Mitsubishi dealership probably missed 2-3 software updates that already happened.
@@OldManYellsAtClouds This is NOT what they are selling NOW. What they are selling now, even before the updates that are starting this week, include software updates that were not included in the one he picked up from some used car lot and about which we have no other information. He reviewed a car that neither current drivers, nor future owners, will own because of his "policy" of only reviewing products are no longer available in the new car market. Bro needs a policy refresh.
@@ronnyglemmestad8739 he clearly states he reviews based on what the current customers have not on future promised software updates
Honestly the features you shared seem pretty awesome compared to the competition, and the bugs you talked about all seem related to the software. So I would think this car will do quite well if they can do an actual big update.
Exactly what I thought. A good update and a different steering wheel (the original is an abomination) will sell good.
Why it launched in such a bad state is beyond me tho
Yeah. It seems like he is just trying discredit it for no real reason.
So he loves the looks, loves the drive and just hates to software.... Sounds like every EV ever made. I wonder if the rest of his videos are so critical? Or are the bigger brands just more likely to litigate?
The bugs he complained about could have been fixed just like when a Tesla had bugs. Just needed to do a soft reset. He knows this. And the car he had software was month out of date. And even the current software soon will be as 2.0 just started rolling out. Fisker just published this new updates feature and a roll out plan for 3.0 and 4.0. The car (I own one) is great (with minor bugs) now and will be awesome by the end of summer this year.
A tiny mirror on the sun visor, who cars, the buttons on the steering wheel-OK, but most of the the things some software bugs they can clear with time. I can't say it's a good car, but he didn't drive the car, what car review is this without any driving characteristics apart from the driving modes not working yet, how does it handle, how does it steer, I am not sure this guy is a real car journalist, he's just popular on YT. Get Throttle House to make a review, Chris Harris and many, many more.
This is the straight up modern videogame industry approach where you release something totally buggy and unfinished and say you'll fix it eventually with updates after you get people's money, except this is something with genuine safety implications lmao
So you think the Ford model T for example, had no issues whatsoever when it first came out? That’s not how it works. A lot of things usually need updates after being released no matter what it is.
@@BAYAREA_PizzaParty ????
@@BAYAREA_PizzaParty I can guarantee you the Ford Model T had zero software bugs and never got any software updates
Literally everything software based does that approach, from video games to phones to cars. Every EV out there has had many, many updates. They also have all had recalls. All except Fisker that is, with six months of customer deliveries and not a single recall yet. Most of them get their first recall within a couple months.
@@Pasi123 and I can guarantee you the 1908 Ford Model T is not the exact same as the 1927 Ford Model T. My point being products will always go through updates, yeah, this car had a lot of bugs but it’s the first model, the car will be eventually updated like other products, software update, or a physical update to the car etc.
20:20 This is the worst car, but it's "solid", and "I'm rooting for you Fisker". But kaboom stock went down and they filled for bankruptcy.