100,000mi Tesla Model Y Workhorse Ownership Review! The Good & The Bad
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 พ.ค. 2024
- Tollak joins the channel to discuss his experience as a rideshare driver who's put 100k miles on his 2021 Tesla Model Y Dual Motor Long Range in just two years! Here's how it's holding up and what it's been like to own and maintain.
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0:00 Intro
0:51 Path to 100K Miles
3:48 General Impressions
5:31 Exterior Condition
7:42 Interior Condition
10:39 Efficiency Metrics
12:40 Tire Wear
16:07 Battery Degradation
19:40 Would I Buy Again? - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Three battery packs!?!
That is just terrible, how are these supposed to exist off of warramty?
Thats $30,000-$45,000 in batteries!
If your first rock chip was high on the left side quarter panel only a full body ppf would have helped?
Thank you for the honest review - disconcerting about the battery and the pleather decomposing
Glad the battery was under warranty. Yes the seat is annoying that it wore that way but that is pretty minor compared to the condition of the rest of the car.
Kind of shocked by the driver seat and steering wheel.
The wheel is the one thing I should have replaced before 50,000 miles. The seat only recently got that bad. Lots of sweaty summer days 😅😂
Steering wheel is a common issue
@@grahamballard7364 normally not that bad
@@chargepozitiveDo you park in a garage at home?
@@darrenorange2982 it again was a recent problem this summer. But it bubbled up and was separating more and more. Taped to stop the spread
Hey my friend, over in the Uk and doing the same as you in an Ioniq 5, 20k miles in 6 months and touch wood no problem yet. Averaging around 380 miles real world on the 77kwt battery model. Reason why I’m watching, wife just purchased a model Y AWD long range so going to keep following and see how your car goes! Great vid keep it up 👍🏻
I'm calling BS on the 380 miles for 77kW. This 4.94 miles/kWhr which is unusually high unless you are driving like grandad in old Rover towing a caravan. Secondly the Ioniq5 is an NMC battery and the 80/10 rule applies. If you have driven 20k miles in 6 months you are non-compliant with the manufacturers instructions. With a 77 kWhr battery you can only use 53.9 kWhr, which means you only get 266 miles at 4.94 or you now get 7.05 miles per kWhr. I suspect you are doing your best to f&*k the battery.
Really appreciate your candor, thanks for sharing your experience. So nice to hear from someone who obviously loves cars and EV (and blue!).
Great review!
Great video Tollak, I think it held up really well! We agree, we need ventilated seats for sure. I’m really surprised how your paint still looks so good even without PPF. I learned something new today…. Blue Beast lol Thanks for the shout out :)
Thanks for feedback. I mean I do have a LOT of paint chips tho 🤣
Held up?it had 3 batteries so far😂
@@nuclearchris832 mechanically. All other parts held up. Motors, hardware etc.
Great review and video!
Thanks! Was challenging to fit all the topics in
Tftc, and a big oof on the batteries. Hopefully that's something they worked out by '23 because I'm gonna be passed if I have to replace mine that often.
Nice review, Ty
Great shirt, great ride and great review!
Haha yeah wanted an appropriate shirt for the shoot
Wow @chargepozitive great review it held up pretty well build quality is Toyota like. Wear and tear interior not that bad, battery wise I heard Tesla upgraded there battery to 4680 battery cell for the model Y
Thoughts moving to the "new" Y w/out USS (just camera vision) for ridesharing/workhorse?
I do like having sensors for parking on my garage 😅 I’m torn on getting a new one. Definitely want to have HW4 and the new computer
That seat wear is wild. I've seen Teslas with twice the mileage that have great looking seats still.
I have a blue MYLR with white seats and I do rideshare as well. Also 27k miles of road trips since Oct 2021. You may find that the white seats solve your sweat problem. They stay cool to the touch on the hottest days. My passengers always comment on the roof, but I just added a cover because on 100 degree days the A/C took hours to get it cooled down.
I might do white seats next time. But I don’t like the white dash that comes with it lol. Maybe we’ll see what happens with refresh
@@chargepozitive I bought white seat cover from Amazon to cover my black seat...looks the same materials like the original.
I've considered seat covers yeah, rn not in the budget but great idea!@@TigerInTheWoods
Really helpful and honest with 100k. Useful too since as you said it works and not babied. I had a Bolt too and loved it. My favorite car I have owned but eyeballing a Y LR.
Please do a cost of charging review since you are in San Diego which has the most expensive cost/kwh of electricity in the whole country. Thanks
Since youre in San Diego (highest electricity prices in US) can you tell us about what youve paid for charging
Great to see Tollak on OoS!
yea he was great, but sucks its like stockholm syndrome....theres no other bev that he can use for work.
Thanks! Glad to work with OoS!
@@laloajuria4678there are others I could use. I chose the Y and like to drive it. 🤷🏻♂️ I am looking at other options but for the most part it’s been great. In case you missed it in the video, there were no mechanical issues with the vehicle.
We'll see how Brandon's newer Y holds. Unless he trades it...
@@normt430 I plan to keep this Y for a bit, but we shall see
Are there cracks or grease leaks on the bushings, control arms, suspension, etc.
Good honest review, hope your third battery holds up for you.
Thanks! I hope so too! 😅👍🏼
He could of gave us battery health of the latest battery. I'm sure one would monitoring it consider the replqcements.
Not a chance unfortunately. After the original battery dies Tesla will put only a refurbished battery and this will happen until battery warranty ends. And you can't trust the refurbished battery to last long.
@@normt430 the best I could give of the health I said in the video: it reads +/- 300 miles. No idea how old the pack is because it’s remanufactured etc.
How does the warranty work when you have to replace the battery? Does it go off of the original or is there a new battery specific warranty?
Wow! Early 2021 with 148,336 miles. My white seats are in excellent condition. Even the driver seat. My steering wheel while not heated is also in pristine condition. I’m on my original battery and original 12 V. I will probably be proactive and replace my 12 V on its third year anniversary in November.
Ironically I’m still on my first 12V battery.
Good to know, thank you. I’m looking to buy a 2021 M3 and like the white seats, glad to hear they’re holding up well.
What kinda degradation you got now?
The battery situation is scary. What happens when it’s out of warranty? You or the next owner may have to pay more for a battery than the car is worth. I didn’t know they replace with a refurbished / bad battery. That’s so scary for anyone considering a used Tesla.
well he's saved $15k+ of gas money, so its a wash
I started doing rideshare (Lyft too) for my Mach-E and I'm really curious how was your overall experience driving your Tesla for Lyft
For Lyft it’s great in general. Lots of room like I said in video. Most riders find it pretty comfy
Does the new battery come with 120k mile warranty?
I think the Tesla paint is kind of thin, easy to chip. Does anybody know how they compare to other brands?
See Out Spec Detailing for more Tesla and Lucid thin paint reviews. The legacy EV automobiles have much better paint. That review of Model X is subpar for the industry.
So battery can start having issues around 40k miles
Up until my current car, I was averaging over 40K miles per year. A good part of that was road time. The rest was a commute. My first car that i bought was a Subaru. My last three cars went well over 8 years and 200K before replacement. The nature of your miles is likely the difference in the wear on the wheel and seat vs my experience with my Subarus and the Ford Fusion Hybrid. Honestly, the blue is about the only Tesla color I like.
Yeah my miles are more concentrated in prolonged hours/day and during warmer times of day etc.
Did anyone notice the mismatched front and rear tires? Looks like Michelin CrossClimate in the rear and Bridgestones in the front
Currently they are different and I even said so in the video. Once the Bridgestones wear down I’ll get more Michelin cross climates probably
Really interesting to hear a Model Y owners perspective after 100K miles, seems a pretty solid car, apart from your battery issues. The Drivers seat was a quite a disappointment, looks terrible and shouldn't be that bad in my view. Tesla does improve with time, I just bought my own Model Y with HW 4 this month and am so far really happy with it, the 2023 Model Y is a significant improvement from the early ones, NVH has really improved and the cameras now are much better than the HW 3, so I think you will like a new one, however no ventilated seats yet!
How is this a sold car when the absolute most expensive part in it had to be replaced twice? Imagine if it had no warranty... Lol
Found this video because I was looking to get a used Y long range. With the batteries, steering wheel, and seat that is a huge pass. Thanks for the video.
For your future vehicle the seats can be protected with ceramic seat protection such as Gyeon leather shield. The steering wheel and dash would last longer with protectant like 303 Aerospace Protectant. You can buy affordable tesla door sill protectors which will prevent the scuff marks and are easily placed and replaced
Yeah there’s lots I could have done to protect this and that. But at the end of the day I just want to drive and get going. It’s my work car not a show car.
@@chargepozitivebhj😅
I think most of this is snake oil, a seat is going to wear out, absent a physical cover, as for the scuffs - its plastic do you really want to spend your time protecting it all when it loses no function?
Greeting from Europe :-) Really the honest review of Y, thank you! ... and therefore I would like to buy VW ID4 of ID7 :-) Evs are not a cheap cars and seats have to endure more, the battery has to endure more... I know VW ID4 doesn't have such performance, such efficiency but I know, the material and equipment's quality is much better..
I have an 23 ID.4. It certainly has its challenges. The software is lousy at best. Mine likes to randomly reset all different settings. The car has creaks and rattles. The dealer has helped some but I am thinking of going to a Y LR. More range, faster charging, better acceleration, more room, much better software. Good luck on the decision.
How much is supercharging? 35-45 cents per KW Wow!
Dude saves that he has had 3 batteries on it until the end. YIKES!!!
Generally it isn't a good idea to mix tires (different traction on different wheels), although its interesting with AWD EV it may matter less. The tires aren't that different though, so maybe the difference here is negligible.
are you getting the seat and steering wheels replaced under warranty?
That is only up to 50,000 miles for those items
@@chargepozitive rip 🥲
@@lplt the steering wheel isn’t that hard to replace just haven’t had the $ lately to replace it. Honestly so much focus on a couple cosmetic issues. Mechanically the car has been great.
@@chargepozitive i'm saying because have 130k miles on mine but none of those issues, might just be you had a bad seat or steering wheel from the factory and shouldn't have to pay to replace it
@@lplt perhaps. But for the seat it gets a lot of sweat (trying not to be gross but my lower back sweats all day in the summer even with AC) and that perhaps accelerated that spot of wear.
271 Wh/ mile = 124 miles per gallon equivalent
You're the 4th person I've encountered on TH-cam thats had to have a battery pack in a Model Y replaced. And, you make 2nd of the 4 that have had your pack replaced twice. This is troubling for someone, like myself, that's already hesitant.
I will keep my prius prime 2017 couple more months because of that battery story...
That is definitely pretty troubling. I do suspect that since these high mileage teslas are work horses and time is money they are likely charging past 80% and running bellow 30% on the regular and that is way more stress on the battery. My 2013 Prius battery was toast this year and just replaced it in the spring. I have a hard time believing the Tesla battery will last way longer than that and so far, data is not too encouraging on that front. I have hear of a million mile Tesla which had 3 batteries that each lasted about 300K miles.
@@mbmpablo3631In 2018 I bought a 2013 Prius. I kick myself every day that I didn’t get a new Prime instead. That’s a great car. My Prius now being 10 years old is on its last few years, at least for me. I love my wife’s 2023 Model Y so far but I’m really torn on which car to buy to replace my Prius. I’m leaning towards a new Prius or Prime if I can get it.
I was told that the constant super charging for these high mileage cars aren’t ideal.
That drivers seat and steering wheel durability is pretty poor. Hell, even 1970s cars with vinyl or velour upholstery held up a lot better than that for 100,000 miles.
I am on my third steering wheel.
Especially when paying close to $55k!
With the crazy high resale we have on these especially up through the beginning of the year, I'd probably just swap with a new one before you cross the mileage warranty threshold...
That’s what I talked about in the video. Not sure yet what I’ll do
Unfortunately a 2021 Model Y with over 100k has lost half it's value.
I.would love to see total including depreciation for almost 3-years.
@@normt430 this is my personal and work vehicle. I didn’t buy it for resale value. This review is showing where this vehicle stands at 100,000 miles. Not every user uses my car like this.
@@normt430 second take: it has over half of it's usable life used, which is the first half where everything is new and the half with a warranty which should be easily costlier than the second. If I could get around 25k for it I'd swap in a minute.
@@tazeat that useful life is 1/3rd a ICE equivalent where most go 300,000-400,000 miles light duty.
Haha I also have a blue Tesla (albeit Model 3) and the exact same blue polarized Ray Ban Stories! 😝
How do you get the lifetime to show?
Looks like it's just Trip 2 renamed to Lifetime.
@@tazeathad trip 2 since the beginning named lifetime
Not the budding endorsement with the replaced battery pack. I'm surprised they granted the warranty swap since your vehicle is a ride share.
Interesting power consumption figures: 27132 kWh over 100K miles gives 3.69 miles/kWh. (Pretty good). 27132 kWh at 70% home charging at 15c/kWh and 30% at Teslas average of 40c/kWhr gives $7103. (Not far from the $6000 estimate.)
My Mazda 2 SkyactivD would burn 1800 gals of diesel and cost $7200. The Mazda is more expensive to service, but tires last much longer and are cheaper, insurance is a lot cheaper and depreciation is less. The running costs are not dissimilar. However, the medium spec Mazda was $30,000 cheaper than the medium Tesla Y. That capital difference will never be re-couped.
So just a note for the CrossClimate2 tires! The V shaped directional tread pattern is actually much worse for water evacuation. If you want great hydroplaning resistance you want wide channels running the circumference of the tire. The new Hankook Ion ev tires are looking promising as compared to the stock Contis you had. 🤙
out of warranty teslas are horrific. jesus that interior.....
You’re on your third battery and you say it has been pretty much flawless???? And you’re buying another? Wow!!!
Mechanically flawless. The battery issues were defects not degradation.
Not purchased new car yet. Debating options
you base your car decisions on one review? plenty of other reviews where the Tesla battery is well over 120k with no issues.
@@diegoe4764 exactly this is one car. It is not normal to have to replace 2 packs. And yes there are many out there with no battery issues.
Thats a pretty big flaw
I think this is a corner case, I know 5 people with model y, it’s an excellent car
I would have kept the Chevy Volt tbh... that battery degradation is wild!
Rock chips everywhere, a worn steering wheel and seats, and he's on his THIRD battery....yet he still loves his car. Clearly an optimist.
basically replaced the engine 3 times
I'm at 91000 on the same battery 50,000 on the same tires people saying they eat tires I haven't seen it yet
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Thanks! Appreciate your view 🙌🏼👍🏼
I'd say get a new Model Y before 120,000 miles. There's a stray fructron running around in your current car that's eating batteries. That's my scientific opinion.
Hmm, our 2014 and 2016 Teslas have 100k miles on them, and those seats are in much better condition; could it be the vegan leather isn't as good as the real stuff?
Vegan leather is usually more durable than real. That's why many "real" leather interiors use a combination. Fake leather in high-impact areas, real everywhere else.
Of course, there are other factors. Maybe Tesla's particularl vegan leather is lower durability, or maybe it is how he uses it, how he sits, how he enters/exits, maybe even the clothes he wears...
I remember when I took a 2023 MY for a test drive, I noticed that the vegan leather on the seats and steering wheel felt quite soft. Softer than my Mazda's leather interior, which I thought was nice. But maybe Tesla chose that material for initial comfort over long-term durability.
@@amperformance7998main reason I would say is that I sweat a lot in that spot and that’s why I want vented seats to keep that area cool/dry
You should have at least put some mud guards on the car.
The seats and the wheel do that because they are made from BUBBER aka vegan leather aka OIL
That’s ridiculous … you basically had the engine replaced 3 time .. that’s nuts .
three battery packs??!! Yeah i dont think its worth getting an ev still, this is absurd
third battery?! pathetic. tesla packs cannot last. will be the first car we sell under warranty.
I can’t watch videos when they say Tezzzla
Competitors should take notes on producing sabotage videos. Having someone say they love a car and then showing how absolutely shit it is, is the most effective anti-marketing I’ve ever seen. This car is in the worst shape I’ve ever seen at 100k. The car is literally seats a steering wheel and a screen, and 2 out of 3 of those things suck.
Wow... honestly not what I was expecting to hear. 3rd battery in 100K??? and the seat and steering wheel deterioration is really bad.
I have 423,000 on a Toyota Hybrid that is 14 years old.. seat looks better than that as does my wheel. And it is on its original battery and engine. I put 223,000 on mine in about 4 1/2 years.. same thing.. rideshare and road trips.
Makes me reconsider getting an EV... Having to trade in and replace a $45K car every 3 years to keep it reliable?? Probably save more money buying a cheaper car, and buying gas.
Luckily it is/was under warranty, and while gas can add up, supercharging also is more expensive than charging at home. I’m surprised they gave a “refurbished” battery when it’s a warranty item tho…
@@robertt1336
Thing that's concerning to me is that the second refurbished battery failed shortly. And the third one is also not behaving exactly correctly. That is not a good sign.
And I was really not impressed with the durability of that seat or the steering wheel. Possible that he just sweats a lot and it damaged the seat. Honestly what he should do is buy a fabric seat cover to put over that leather. It'll breathe better and won't cause as much sweat problems.
Maybe coming from Toyota I just expect a car to automatically go 300,000 mi with basically no problems.
Odd that on 3rd battery, like there is a problem with BMS or some other variable.
I would have said the new battery should reset the warranty as such. Also strange it's a recon battery. He's under warranty, not out of warranty taking it to ,3rd party.
Shame can't get good cloth seats these days. Or maybe half leather.
@@jondavies5885
I really wish they would offer a cloth seat option. I live in a climate that's extremely hot with a lot of UV input. I personally prefer a non-glass roof also. I have no idea why would prefer having bright sunlight pounding in on their head to cool the cabin.
@@robertt1336the warranty states that you’ll receive a replacement battery, not explicitly a brand new pack.
⚠️So much for Elon’s claims of “million mile battery” life. 2021 study showed EV batt replacements ranged from $12,000-$22,000! Sooo basically even if one maintains the car perfectly, you can’t safely own an EV beyond 120,000 miles the way u can most (ICE) cars. That’s a shame.
AND, as consumers wise up, they’ll be willing to pay WAY LESS for any EV with 100k miles. So major dollar depreciation at that point. 🤦🏻♂️
The battery 🔋 has an 8yr, 120k mi warranty. I say if you have one, hold on to it until that milestone then get rid of it.
you beat the hell out of the car what the fuck dude, looks like you chewed on it.
Tesla is the best
literally not the batteries....
What is best about 3 batteries in 2 years, and a seat and wheel that look 30 years old?
This video did NOT entice me to think about a Tesla at all... more likely I would just get another Toyota Hybrid as a result.
My 14 year old Prius has 423,000 miles.. 223,000 of that in 4 years... same work as this guy. My seat and wheel look better than his.... and I am on my original battery and engine.
I don’t know how you can call something ‘the best’ when a two year old seat looks worse than out of a typical 20 year old car! I would call it pathetic.
Tesla in general, I know you see them on the road. The model y has made improvements beyond this model. That’s why is the best selling vehicle. They only have 4 cars. And surpasses other companies in sales. They’re clearly doing something right.
Your Prius is tiny compare to this suv. I’m referring to the 2023 models and future models to come. Hardware 4 tesla and beyond.