I owned 4 high-end Thieaudio IEMs, and unfortunately all of them had driver flex and oxidisation at the metal nozzles. I'll only reconsider this brand if they use fully resin or fully metal shells.
Wonder which 4 was it. The old Thieaudio from 4 years ago, they do have oxidize issue, but they fixed that after that whole batch. My Oracle was from the fixed batch, no issue till now. Driver flex only happened to model like the V14. Haha. Things are different now bro.. never had any flex and oxidization from any of the iem i mentioned in vixeo. You should try one.
@@jordanng5428The latest Thieaudio IEM I had was the Monarch Mk3, bought it brand new from Ethan on first day of launch. The main quality issue with their metal nozzles is that it's coated, once the coating wears off maybe from frequent tip rolling, the oxidisation would start, at that point it's irreversible. Knowing this, I babied my Monarch Mk3 from day 1, didn't even rub the metal nozzles with anything, yet it oxidised. I don't get this oxidisation issue from brands that uses stainless steel nozzles. Another issue is that its metal mesh filter is glued on the nozzles, overtime the filter would drop off as I clean the dusts off it. Also, you may not know that the bass ports also have metal mesh glued onto it, mine come off just after a week. As for the driver flex, the worst I've experienced are from Oracle Mk1 and Monarch Mk2, it would make that kind of squeaking sound upon insertion, driver flex issue is more apparent if I push the IEM deeper for better isolation. It's like the air is trapped in the IEM, perhaps due to poor design of having the bass port at the top of the shell which they corrected the design by putting the bass port at the bottom of the shell in newer IEM like Monarch Mk3. I've sold them all, my buyers all sold theirs within a week suspect it's due to the above mentioned issues. Next time if I ever buy another Thieaudio IEM I'll show you the issues at Zeppelin. (:
@@ryder9739 Any of their plastic IEM that uses metal nozzles would get the same issue, including Prestige LTD. Because their metal nozzles are coated and not stainless steel, when the coating wears off then oxidisation starts. Advise that you don't tip roll too frequently, anything that rubs the metal nozzles would eventually wears away its coating. Shame that despite its price the build quality is poor.
All amazing iems. But a Prestige LTD with some eq is insane endgame. Has the great staging, amazing imaging and layering. Highly detailed sound. Yet you can gain amazing slam and texturing in the low end. Bring out even more detail in the mids and further refine the tuning with slight eq. True endgame
I bought the Legacy 4 back in 2021. It’s one of my favorite IEMs in my collection. It has a distinct Harmon-like tuning and with the right tips and source, these things are as clear and detailed as anything on the market. Could use a splash more midbass but that’s a characteristic of a Harmon tuning. I still listen to it today.
As others have pointed out, Hype4s are great for anyone starting into the IEM, to have it as a 3rd end game. why is because its literally the middle of the pac for their series in terms of value and sound quality, however the down side is , one really needs to test the hype2 first, then the Monarch mk3 before giving it a go. ive seen sold the hype4s [ still recommended] for the Oracle mk 3, as im more into EST setup, which most of the top highly regarded IEMS will have EST
The 64 Audio Volur is the upgrade after Prestige and Monarch MK3 - together with the Canpur Cp622b these 4 IEMs are the best with Prestige being one of the best all rounders
@@jordanng5428 Nice video got to say. I do have some questions for you - 1. When you mentioned you swapped cable and heard difference it was weird to me cuz to me the mmk3 doesnt scale, it would sound almost if not identical on a questyle m15 vs woo audio wa7 3rd gen. really i dont hear any major change in sound, maybe less harsh, still great and same everything else. So I wonder how a cable would change the sound if such gap between devices didnt do anything. (for context, I could hear changes on my other headphones when I used cheaper amps vs the wa7, clear differences in quality). 2. what tips do you use? I love the mmk3 a ton, its crazy good but for some reason it hurts my ears after say 1 hour due to the pressure it puts on the ears, I dont really feel discomfort in the ear cannal, more like the outer areas where the mmk3 seats and apply pressure. Also by looks, my ears looks bigger than urs so I wonder how it works for you and if you have any tips. Hope you can help a fella out here!
@@heeku_ @heeku_ there are several factors when it comes to cable rolling. It depends on how well u know the same old testing track and how well u know the iem. 🤣 You are right that M15 sounded bit harsh and bright, becuz the price of it being clinical and having good resolution. I am using Nostalgia XWB eartips and Audiosense s400, it works wonder for me. Hope it helps.
Hi Jordan great video ❤❤ i need your help , does the vortex eddie cable that you mention in a past video PENTACON connector?? i will buy Hisenior Mega5est over Oracle Mk3 what do you think
Vortex cable comes with Effect Audio ConX system which allow changing into pentaconn. No worries. If you value safe, then Mega5est is the way to go! Or if u want something more colored in sound and detailed, take O3. 😉
Please advise what would be the best solution with sound transmitted via Bluetooth LHDC in a budget of 1000 euros. I am currently using BGVP VG4 ArtMagic. Or will there be no significant difference?
Hello! What do you reccomend,, I am thinking of a buy 1 and done iem. I plan to use for stage performance(am a male vocalist) and personal use at home. Unsure which to choose from but leaning towards prestige LTD because im not very picky about bass and prefer clarity. And staging is good so thats a plus too. Any recomendations? Thanks (Side note, where did you get your toxic cable from? UK site or taobao, and which do you recommend? 😅)
@@jordanng5428hello! i have tried most of them in this video, and I really like prestige ltd! Now time to find where to get and find the best price 😂 quite expensive💸💸
@@jordanng5428YO! Went to try at the hangout. Probably going with prestige LTD! Unfortunately they dont sell those at their store (they also gave me weird looks :(,, only the girl employee was less judgey. The rest gave very questionable looks, not the greatest experince for me but oh well, LTD was my liking.) Edit: they gave me questionable looks when I said I prefered LTD over the Monarch mk2 and mk3. To me MK2 lacked a bit of thumpy-ness but i liked the clarity and overall presentation - but it was a bit softer, less aggresive. Mk3 to me was a bit overbearing at times and separation not as nice as mk2. Mk2 was a lot smoother and less harsh when compared. But low ends and bass mk3 confirm win. Treble not as smooth and airy. LTD Was a blend of both and staging is amazing. Clarity in the mids and treble. Solid and punchy bass. Not a bassy iem but to me its enough. Plus bass doesn bleed into mids, like the oracle mk3. I tried Oracle mk 1/3 monarch mk2/3 hype 10 and LTD. I liked oracle mk3 and prestige ltd. Very surprised how good the oracle mk3 sounded. (I tot it was better than monarch mk2)
i own the Hype 4 and am very happy with it so far. Still, I am wondering if there is sth. that has a little more resolution on the top end and perhaps a little more soundstage. Bass-wise I am very happy with what the Hype 4 has got. Would the Oracle Mk3 be a worthwhile upgrade? Or should one save more money and go straight for the Monarch Mk3 or similar?
Is the Nostalgia Audio Lancelot cable necessary for the Monarch MK3 or by what amount improves it the sound because $1,179 is quite a lot for an IEM cable
@@crayp7 it is totally unnecessary and not sensible at all. And the upgrade margin isnt night and day too. But if it was the small few percent that you are chasing, then just get one, if you are financially ok with it.. hahaha
Haha.. you are right. Crazy storm going on there. When i was shooting the Prestige ltd B-roll, there was one massive lighting that send me jumping. XD hahahhaah
Great video! I'm a huge jpop fan and really love yorushika! I'm kinda struggling among 64 audio volur, adc emperor, thieaudio prestige ltd now. Do you have any suggestions? thx!
@@joseph1321 Volur is kinda aggressive in treble and too much bass for jpop too. Emperor suffers a little bit in the mids. Maybe the Prestige ltd still safer and lower in cost.
@@jordanng5428 Thank you！ Just want to make sure. I really like some high resolution bright/neutral sound. To te specific I like to listen to things like guitar in jpop. Is prestige ltd still a good choise？ Thanks！！
12:28 when i look at squig freq graph hype2 and hype4 have the exact same bass curve.... what is happening here? I also checked graph made by a few people.
hi @jordanng5428 , between the oracle mk1 /clairvoyance / monarch mk2 - which would you say has the most neutral and balanced tuning in frequency and natural tonality? i intend to use it for mix/mastering purposes, so it also needs to have good imaging and transient response
@@jordanng5428 ignoring the pressure issues, and considering only their sound performance, which has better neutrality/tonality and transient response and imaging?
@@jordanng5428 I demoed the Hype4 today, I like the mids and treble a lot, but the bass is not very tight and speedy. Do you know which IEM has Hype4 sound tighter bass?
@Helmond2017 I bought the og oracle and da Vinci and I prefer the overall sound signature of the oracle. Reach for it over the dunu ten times out of ten.the oracle isn’t necessarily a bass head iem but it has enough bass slam to sound good imo without overwhelming or blowing out the mids like the da Vinci…
Does the O3 have more treble than the Xenns Top? Is the Top more reminiscent of the Hype 4 or O3 and Which if these 3 does vocals best in your opinion? 🙏🏼
I owned 4 high-end Thieaudio IEMs, and unfortunately all of them had driver flex and oxidisation at the metal nozzles. I'll only reconsider this brand if they use fully resin or fully metal shells.
I don’t have problems with thieaudio iems
Wonder which 4 was it. The old Thieaudio from 4 years ago, they do have oxidize issue, but they fixed that after that whole batch. My Oracle was from the fixed batch, no issue till now. Driver flex only happened to model like the V14. Haha. Things are different now bro.. never had any flex and oxidization from any of the iem i mentioned in vixeo. You should try one.
@@jordanng5428The latest Thieaudio IEM I had was the Monarch Mk3, bought it brand new from Ethan on first day of launch. The main quality issue with their metal nozzles is that it's coated, once the coating wears off maybe from frequent tip rolling, the oxidisation would start, at that point it's irreversible. Knowing this, I babied my Monarch Mk3 from day 1, didn't even rub the metal nozzles with anything, yet it oxidised. I don't get this oxidisation issue from brands that uses stainless steel nozzles.
Another issue is that its metal mesh filter is glued on the nozzles, overtime the filter would drop off as I clean the dusts off it. Also, you may not know that the bass ports also have metal mesh glued onto it, mine come off just after a week.
As for the driver flex, the worst I've experienced are from Oracle Mk1 and Monarch Mk2, it would make that kind of squeaking sound upon insertion, driver flex issue is more apparent if I push the IEM deeper for better isolation. It's like the air is trapped in the IEM, perhaps due to poor design of having the bass port at the top of the shell which they corrected the design by putting the bass port at the bottom of the shell in newer IEM like Monarch Mk3.
I've sold them all, my buyers all sold theirs within a week suspect it's due to the above mentioned issues. Next time if I ever buy another Thieaudio IEM I'll show you the issues at Zeppelin. (:
Which one? I have the Prestige LTD on the way.
@@ryder9739 Any of their plastic IEM that uses metal nozzles would get the same issue, including Prestige LTD. Because their metal nozzles are coated and not stainless steel, when the coating wears off then oxidisation starts. Advise that you don't tip roll too frequently, anything that rubs the metal nozzles would eventually wears away its coating. Shame that despite its price the build quality is poor.
All amazing iems. But a Prestige LTD with some eq is insane endgame. Has the great staging, amazing imaging and layering. Highly detailed sound. Yet you can gain amazing slam and texturing in the low end. Bring out even more detail in the mids and further refine the tuning with slight eq. True endgame
I bought the Legacy 4 back in 2021. It’s one of my favorite IEMs in my collection. It has a distinct Harmon-like tuning and with the right tips and source, these things are as clear and detailed as anything on the market. Could use a splash more midbass but that’s a characteristic of a Harmon tuning. I still listen to it today.
Love the hype 4
Might be one of the best value buy from thie. 😉
As others have pointed out, Hype4s are great for anyone starting into the IEM, to have it as a 3rd end game.
why is because its literally the middle of the pac for their series in terms of value and sound quality, however the down side is , one really needs to test the hype2 first, then the Monarch mk3 before giving it a go.
ive seen sold the hype4s [ still recommended] for the Oracle mk 3, as im more into EST setup, which most of the top highly regarded IEMS will have EST
I have Hype4 and truly in love with it.👌
wow, thanks man. this is much clear comparison i ever heard for all thieaudio iem
I really dig the Thieaudio Elixer, a great single dynamic driver. Very well tuned..!
It can't fit my ears 😭
The 64 Audio Volur is the upgrade after Prestige and Monarch MK3 - together with the Canpur Cp622b these 4 IEMs are the best with Prestige being one of the best all rounders
What do you think about getting the Monarch OG now? No issue?
nice review, support from Hong Kong, I love listening jpop and female vocals, is monarch mk3 the best end game iem?:)
Not the best, but might be the cheapest. Haha.. swap into liquid link evua2 after that. It will become Super Jpop endgame. 😉
@@jordanng5428
Nice video got to say.
I do have some questions for you -
1. When you mentioned you swapped cable and heard difference it was weird to me cuz to me the mmk3 doesnt scale, it would sound almost if not identical on a questyle m15 vs woo audio wa7 3rd gen.
really i dont hear any major change in sound, maybe less harsh, still great and same everything else.
So I wonder how a cable would change the sound if such gap between devices didnt do anything.
(for context, I could hear changes on my other headphones when I used cheaper amps vs the wa7, clear differences in quality).
2. what tips do you use?
I love the mmk3 a ton, its crazy good but for some reason it hurts my ears after say 1 hour due to the pressure it puts on the ears, I dont really feel discomfort in the ear cannal, more like the outer areas where the mmk3 seats and apply pressure.
Also by looks, my ears looks bigger than urs so I wonder how it works for you and if you have any tips.
Hope you can help a fella out here!
@@heeku_ @heeku_ there are several factors when it comes to cable rolling.
It depends on how well u know the same old testing track and how well u know the iem. 🤣
You are right that M15 sounded bit harsh and bright, becuz the price of it being clinical and having good resolution.
I am using Nostalgia XWB eartips and Audiosense s400, it works wonder for me. Hope it helps.
Hi Jordan great video ❤❤ i need your help , does the vortex eddie cable that you mention in a past video PENTACON connector?? i will buy Hisenior Mega5est over Oracle Mk3 what do you think
Vortex cable comes with Effect Audio ConX system which allow changing into pentaconn. No worries.
If you value safe, then Mega5est is the way to go! Or if u want something more colored in sound and detailed, take O3. 😉
Your father is Andy Vault?
For symphonic and jazz music, what do you recommend between oracle og and oracle MK III, and between monarch MK II and monarch MK III?
Thank you
@@gufettos67 i would pick O1. 😇
Please advise what would be the best solution with sound transmitted via Bluetooth LHDC in a budget of 1000 euros. I am currently using BGVP VG4 ArtMagic. Or will there be no significant difference?
@@sepe6a haha.. sadly.. I didn't Bluetooth 🤣
Hello! What do you reccomend,, I am thinking of a buy 1 and done iem.
I plan to use for stage performance(am a male vocalist) and personal use at home.
Unsure which to choose from but leaning towards prestige LTD because im not very picky about bass and prefer clarity. And staging is good so thats a plus too.
Any recomendations? Thanks
(Side note, where did you get your toxic cable from? UK site or taobao, and which do you recommend? 😅)
@@JaLLY77 Get the Monarch. Safer bet! 😉
Gotten the toxic straight from UK. But u need to wait quite a bit though. Haha
Okay! Thanks. Will be dropping by the hangout by crinacle to try out those iems.
@@jordanng5428hello! i have tried most of them in this video, and I really like prestige ltd! Now time to find where to get and find the best price 😂 quite expensive💸💸
@@jordanng5428YO! Went to try at the hangout. Probably going with prestige LTD! Unfortunately they dont sell those at their store (they also gave me weird looks :(,, only the girl employee was less judgey. The rest gave very questionable looks, not the greatest experince for me but oh well, LTD was my liking.)
Edit: they gave me questionable looks when I said I prefered LTD over the Monarch mk2 and mk3. To me MK2 lacked a bit of thumpy-ness but i liked the clarity and overall presentation - but it was a bit softer, less aggresive.
Mk3 to me was a bit overbearing at times and separation not as nice as mk2. Mk2 was a lot smoother and less harsh when compared. But low ends and bass mk3 confirm win. Treble not as smooth and airy. LTD Was a blend of both and staging is amazing. Clarity in the mids and treble. Solid and punchy bass. Not a bassy iem but to me its enough. Plus bass doesn bleed into mids, like the oracle mk3.
I tried Oracle mk 1/3 monarch mk2/3 hype 10 and LTD. I liked oracle mk3 and prestige ltd. Very surprised how good the oracle mk3 sounded. (I tot it was better than monarch mk2)
i own the Hype 4 and am very happy with it so far. Still, I am wondering if there is sth. that has a little more resolution on the top end and perhaps a little more soundstage. Bass-wise I am very happy with what the Hype 4 has got.
Would the Oracle Mk3 be a worthwhile upgrade? Or should one save more money and go straight for the Monarch Mk3 or similar?
@@LauchEleven haha.. O3 is a sidegrade with different taste. Where it focus more on details. Get the M3 if u want a true upgrade. Haha
@@jordanng5428 is the o3 resolution at the top in its sub 600 price range?
Is the Nostalgia Audio Lancelot cable necessary for the Monarch MK3 or by what amount improves it the sound because $1,179 is quite a lot for an IEM cable
@@crayp7 it is totally unnecessary and not sensible at all. And the upgrade margin isnt night and day too. But if it was the small few percent that you are chasing, then just get one, if you are financially ok with it.. hahaha
Is this a storm in the background or am I already hallucinating when I hear about another IEMs? 😅
Haha.. you are right. Crazy storm going on there. When i was shooting the Prestige ltd B-roll, there was one massive lighting that send me jumping. XD hahahhaah
Great video! I'm a huge jpop fan and really love yorushika! I'm kinda struggling among 64 audio volur, adc emperor, thieaudio prestige ltd now. Do you have any suggestions? thx!
@@joseph1321 Volur is kinda aggressive in treble and too much bass for jpop too. Emperor suffers a little bit in the mids. Maybe the Prestige ltd still safer and lower in cost.
@@jordanng5428 Thank you！ Just want to make sure. I really like some high resolution bright/neutral sound. To te specific I like to listen to things like guitar in jpop. Is prestige ltd still a good choise？ Thanks！！
@@joseph1321 Yes it is. 😉
@@jordanng5428 thx！
12:28 when i look at squig freq graph hype2 and hype4 have the exact same bass curve.... what is happening here? I also checked graph made by a few people.
@@matrixmodulator the Dual DD used was the same. But hype 2 has lesser treble, making it felt bit more bassy than H4.
I have the MK3 but I'm having FOMO for not demo-ing the Prestige LTD
Prestige ltd vs UM Mest mk2. What do each do better than the other? And which do you prefer more?
@@h1a8 i sold my mest 2. Haha.. get prestige ptd.. much better and so much more balanced.
@@jordanng5428 I don't like balanced lol. Even so, then what about the imaging, soundstage, and detail retrieval?
@@h1a8 in these realms, mest 2 is a tad better.
hi @jordanng5428 , between the oracle mk1 /clairvoyance / monarch mk2 - which would you say has the most neutral and balanced tuning in frequency and natural tonality? i intend to use it for mix/mastering purposes, so it also needs to have good imaging and transient response
@@dalejail Pick the Oracle 1 😉
@@jordanng5428 thanks! would you pick the softears studio4 of the oraclemk1 for the neutrality and technicalities i mentioned?
@@dalejail hahhaha.. nah.. i would pick the O1 for slightly less pressurized feeling and some EST goodness. Haha
@@jordanng5428 ignoring the pressure issues, and considering only their sound performance, which has better neutrality/tonality and transient response and imaging?
@@dalejail still the Oracle 1. I might be biased. Haha
Great episode today. Which of these have the most natural sound?
Oracle OG❤️❤️❤️
@@jordanng5428
I demoed the Hype4 today, I like the mids and treble a lot, but the bass is not very tight and speedy. Do you know which IEM has Hype4 sound tighter bass?
Hello Jordan. What’s the Thieaudio model with Hype 4 tuning but tighter bass?
@zeissiez tighter bass thieaudio? Nahhhhh.. non existence.. they quite consistent with current bass. Hahahhahaha
If budget is not a problem, for fun all rounder, choose Monarch MK3 or Perstige LTD?
Prestige LTD for sure, mk3 is old and default running
Prestige LTD with EQ. ENDGAME GOD TIER IEM
@@S.G54321 what kind of EQ you use?
@@SaulAlvarezzzz thanks
Have u tried elixir?
I did! Haha.. subconsciously never think of it as a Thieaudio. FR looks good but i can't fit very nicely. XD
Nice one. Are you going to review the Dunu Da Vinci?
@@Helmond2017 Haha.. probably not. Unless i manage to get one cheap XD
@Helmond2017
I bought the og oracle and da Vinci and I prefer the overall sound signature of the oracle. Reach for it over the dunu ten times out of ten.the oracle isn’t necessarily a bass head iem but it has enough bass slam to sound good imo without overwhelming or blowing out the mids like the da Vinci…
@@GiftOfYHWH I heard the og oracle is better that the mk2. But Price is a big factor sadly.
@@jordanng5428 I hope you do get one at cheap price lol.
Have you tried the thieaudio Clairvoyance?
@@backinbusiness95 i did.. it is very nice.
@@jordanng5428 Ah, nice thank you for the reply. I was thinking to get it second hand. Would you take it over the hype 4 for the same price?
@@Pegasus-en3ed Definitely.. but pls check the condition though. It's quite old by this point of time. Much better than h4 btw.
@@jordanng5428 Appreciate it. 👍
The owner bought it 1 1/2 years ago new and didn't use it that much, so it's still in a pretty good condition.
Good review. But it's not complete! You ignore fit and comfort of the IEMs, as well as eartips and cables quality.
hello 啱啱買左Prestige Ltd,想買多一條升級線,Jordan有推薦嗎? 考慮緊Rolling Force Mercury 感謝
@@leekl8735 哇，你问得真是时候。我也刚买不久，玩了一些线，记忆犹新。哈哈哈。
Rolling Force Diamond, 这是我现在在用的，因为反正prestige 的高频与超高已经很不错了，还不如补贴一下中频。人声变得很甜美耐听加突出。
Toxic SW V3 ，声场广阔得不得了，细节也更好了。有一点感觉就是，画龙点睛，在它最强的地方再加强。
Mercury , 也是偏中频，人声偏甜但不会太前，不过比较暖声。如果你觉得目前 Perstige 有一点薄声，可以考虑 Mercury. Heady buy 上面好像有折扣呢，价钱和diamond差不多，性价比拉满。
不过我个人还是主推 Diamond 😉
@@jordanng5428 喔喔，感謝Jordan 。感覺Eletech Raphael，也可以試一下。
@@leekl8735 哈哈哈，有一点不是很喜欢那个 😅
@@jordanng5428 有種油膩的感覺😂
@@leekl8735 🤣🤣🤣🤣
You haven't included the v16
Oh yaaaa.. cuz i don't hv it. And the V16 Hong Kong limited is my on my wanted list..
Does the O3 have more treble than the Xenns Top? Is the Top more reminiscent of the Hype 4 or O3 and Which if these 3 does vocals best in your opinion? 🙏🏼
H4 dont have much treble.. too safe.. O3 is reminiscent with Top but in a smoother way, the thieaudio way.
Do u have giveaway my friend?😅
Linsoul hv 😂
@@jordanng5428 oh wow, when?😏
@@nathz2020 now now.. friend told me. Can participate.
@@jordanng5428 how to paticipate my friend
@@nathz2020 checkout thieaudio tweeter post. XD
Big disappointment the Oracle mk 3.People just wanted a tiny bit more bass punch and they did a complete different one
Heyyyyyy.. bro.. i have the same thought. Wow... Maybe it is what everyone wanted too. Too bad.. we have to live with OG Oracle bit longer.
@@jordanng5428 Manufacturers should listen the people - customers a bit MORE..or they should not use the same names..
@@jordanng54284 MORE YEARS!!! 4 MORE YEARS!!
@@jordanng5428 Maybe that's why they did not discontinue the OG Oracle, it's still competitive and they don't know how to improve on it. LOL
Hi. First comment 🎉.
Hahahaha.. u rock!! 🤘🤘
ThieAudio is a joke. Too many IEM'S released mostly overpriced
Nope. Find me a 9 driver tribid that sell below 999usd, and find me some 1+2+2 Tribid below 500usd.
@@jordanng5428 What's the big deal of x driver "tribid" ? Please explain.
EST drivers are really expensive. You can't really compare them to cheaper configurations like DD+BA or planar hybrid. @@alp786