Hi Richard, Yes, this was my experimental stage with getting the then new PRD717 , they are very different and both an absolute joy to use, they have really changed the way I feel about Chinese guns, These go to prove, the Chinese can make good guns in terms of performance and build quality. I didn't know about longevity at the time buy that has been well and truly proved now in my 2 years of ownership, not a single problem, as you would expect, thanks mate, it is much appreciated 👍
Hi Pete, loved the video mate it shows the difference between the normal and the split tip seeing as the guns are the same so I assume that if you have the 715 you can if they are available but the split tip setup and fit it to the 715🤔 you could clearly see the difference between the 715 and 717 fan pattern as the 717 wasn't quite as wet but the atomisation was better👌 I really enjoyed using the 715 and the 625 when you lent them to me Pete, they both sprayed very well with both of them laying the base and clear flawlessly, I'm hoping to get one of these guns at some point which will probably be the 717 first👍 Thanks Pete👍
Hi John, Yes, you have summed it up exactly mate, as far as I know the gun is the same, they do tip sets for all the guns, comes in a flat pack like the Fuji set does. I've since found the 717 needs far less than 2 bar, I've been using it at 1.4 bar and the results are excellent, I'm really enjoying it, they make a split tip 625, think it's a 627 and I expect it will spray the same as the 717, cheers John 👍
It's good you can get the tip sets for them mate, I didn't know the Fuji ones came in a flat pack as I don't seem to have one🤔😆the 717 does sound like it will be a great gun especially as they run at a lower air pressure, looking forward to seeing it in action👌👍
Hi Roger, Yes, mate, alls well here, thanks. I was genuinely excited to get this as I really like the 715, I'll give it some use and see what it's all about, cheers mate, hope all OK with you down under 👍
Hi Mate, Yes, like a Wider4L or LPH400,, quite different to the 715 which is a very fast gun. I'm still in the process of trying the 717 but you can get away with very low pressures 😁
How are you Pete, just put an order in for a 627 watch a lot of videos on these guns and had to order one, i plan on using it for clears and single stages but will need to see ?
I have a PRD715 blue one on its way now right now from a friend who does reviews on youtube and got one from them. Im fortunate because you cant get them here in the US
Hi buddy, I think you'll enjoy it. You will be able to get them now. They have just launched a retail website. The link is in the description. Let us know what you think of it, good or bad, as it helps others decide , cheers, buddy 👍
@peteshobbies5383 sure will. I needed a faster clear coat gun. I love my 3 Dv1 guns but the DV1-C is great its just a bit slow that on some vehicles its dry before i get around the car.
@user-un5my5bw4j The 715 or 625 will suit you if you like them fast, it's a hose and very good. I'm not sure about reliability yet, I've had no problems at all and the fit and finish of the gun is holding up really well so I'm getting less and less concerned about how reliable they will be, only time will tell but I'm pretty confident 😁 Cheers buddy 👍
@@peteshobbies5383how is it for over spray? I got it for $200 from my friend its on its way now. I saved $40 plus shipping. I checked the link you had i may grab one of those prd-51 1.8mm MP guns for primer too
Hi Mate, normally you will buy a ready-made panel wipe, you can and I do use one that is 80% alcohol and 20% water, but alcohol isn't any good on basecoat as it can remove it when it's fresh, panel wipe doesn't
Pete I need your help urgently. Respraying a car that's had a damage repair. Every time I put any kind of primer over the filled area the paint reacts. Any ideas?
@christophervian1784 If you are putting it on too heavy, it will stay wet for too long and react. If the temperature is cold, it will do the same thing. To try and stop it, warm the work up, warm the mixed primer up, dust it on, warm the area and dust it on again, and repeat until you get enough on to sand, it will take a wile but you should get there. If there's plenty on there and it wrinkles, you make be able to sand it flat anyway without going through the primer. If you really can't get anywhere, you can try a sealer like Upol Barcoat, or, the preferred method. Take it back to the metal or plastic and start again. It's sometimes why you may see me put quite a few light coats of primer or base coat onto something, it's because your unsure of the substrate, hope that help 😉 PS, let us know how you get on, cheers 🍻
@@peteshobbies5383 hi Pete thank you so much!!! I did exactly as you said with 3 light coats. Zero reaction! Absolutely fantastic mate. Thank you so much 🙏
You're welcome buddy, good to hear it worked. It's a bit like that going over repairs as there's often a chance it will react, so it's best to take it easy and build the coats up, takes time but saves time in the long run, thanks for letting us know, cheers mate 👍
Hi Bradley, The 717 is slower, but atomisation is finer, I've only just started using it, but it works really well at low pressures, you can order cap and tip sets so you can change to whatever you want, 717 ir 715, as far as I can see, the gun bodies are the same, cheers mate, let us know what you think when you get them👍
Hey do you know what size pps adapter these use? I use pps 2.0 cups in 13.5oz and 22oz here helps me save in lacquer thinner of not having to clean out mixing cups and gravity cups. Especially with lacquer thinner being $23/gallon now.
@@peteshobbies5383 its the S9 Pete. Same as the spectrum black widow uses. I picked up the spectrum fast cup set yesterday which is a replicated pps 1.0 set along with there adapter. Tried it last night and it worked great. I will now order the 3M S9 pps 2.0 adapter. Thanks for giving me the thread pitch to figure it all out. Here in the US i do not know metric threads like i do SAE
That's the one then. The 27 and 9 are the same threads, but if we know the 9 fits, then that's the one to go for. Cheers guys, good to see us all helping each other. Porphis has confirmed it: an M16 x 1.5 👍
Hi pete everyone are buying thease spray guns phorpis 717 1.3 and a 715 pete whats the difference between the two I know ones got a split nozzle so pete is the phorpis 715 a clear coat paint gun 🔫
hi pete, they are not exactly Chinese in price. the lady asked me 170 usd for the PRD510 mini spray gun model, shipped to Italy, with other customs money, it would have cost more than 200 usd. with a few dollars more I can buy the LPH80. the 717 is nice, but 430L/min is too much for a hobbyist compressor ciao
Hi Ciao, They aren't prices you normally associate with Chinese guns on Aliexpress and the like, but they really aren't like them either, particularly the PRD series of gun which really are made very well and perform really well. I have just ordered a PRD515 with a 510 tip & cap set. To be honest, I don't mind paying the money as I'm happy with the gun's, hopefully the 510/515 will be as good as the others I have. In the UK, something like an LPH80 is around 260GBP, so around 330 USD so they still seem cheap, in fact that's around AZ4 money in the UK which isn't made anywhere near as well, hopefully anyway as I haven't got the 515 yet 🤣. In my mind, I'm thinking, or hoping should I say, that the 510 set up will be something like an Pro Lite S, so more universal than a LPH80 which can be slow for bigger items. The air consumption on the 717 is shown as high, but in reality, it's the same or lower than the 715 as you need less pressure to get results, bit like an LPH400 or Wider4L. Cheers, buddy, I appreciate it 👍
Hi mate, it's similar in that it has a split tip but is quite different in most other respects, it's sort of a cross between a WS400 & a Sata 5000 with a bit of Sagola 4600 1.3XL thrown in, it's superbly balanced, you just don't feel the weight. I was genuinely excited to get it as I'm really happy with the 715, so I couldn't resist this one. Cheers buddy 👍
Hi mate, I did think about doing that, I knew the 717 was supposed to be 15.5cfm, and I could see the size of the air holes in the air horns. What I didn't know, but do now, is that this gun doesn't need anything like the pressure I tried this at, it's excellent for clear coat at 19 to 20 psi which means it's using less than the 715, it is, as I had expected, slower than the 715 even though the 717 is 1.4 and the 715 is 1.3 as all the split tip guns are relatively slow. Cheers, buddy, I appreciate it 👍
That was a very interesting comparison. I was surprised how different the spray was between them. Great video Pete, thank you!
Hi Richard, Yes, this was my experimental stage with getting the then new PRD717 , they are very different and both an absolute joy to use, they have really changed the way I feel about Chinese guns,
These go to prove, the Chinese can make good guns in terms of performance and build quality.
I didn't know about longevity at the time buy that has been well and truly proved now in my 2 years of ownership, not a single problem, as you would expect, thanks mate, it is much appreciated 👍
Hi Pete, loved the video mate it shows the difference between the normal and the split tip seeing as the guns are the same so I assume that if you have the 715 you can if they are available but the split tip setup and fit it to the 715🤔 you could clearly see the difference between the 715 and 717 fan pattern as the 717 wasn't quite as wet but the atomisation was better👌
I really enjoyed using the 715 and the 625 when you lent them to me Pete, they both sprayed very well with both of them laying the base and clear flawlessly, I'm hoping to get one of these guns at some point which will probably be the 717 first👍
Thanks Pete👍
Hi John, Yes, you have summed it up exactly mate, as far as I know the gun is the same, they do tip sets for all the guns, comes in a flat pack like the Fuji set does.
I've since found the 717 needs far less than 2 bar, I've been using it at 1.4 bar and the results are excellent, I'm really enjoying it, they make a split tip 625, think it's a 627 and I expect it will spray the same as the 717, cheers John 👍
It's good you can get the tip sets for them mate, I didn't know the Fuji ones came in a flat pack as I don't seem to have one🤔😆the 717 does sound like it will be a great gun especially as they run at a lower air pressure, looking forward to seeing it in action👌👍
Hello Pete hope all is well, interesting to say the least cant wait to see the full review on the 717 , ill definitely keep an eye out for your video
Hi Roger, Yes, mate, alls well here, thanks.
I was genuinely excited to get this as I really like the 715, I'll give it some use and see what it's all about, cheers mate, hope all OK with you down under 👍
Hello Pete. Such a good video. Does this compare and it is similar with lph 400?
Hi Mate, Yes, like a Wider4L or LPH400,, quite different to the 715 which is a very fast gun. I'm still in the process of trying the 717 but you can get away with very low pressures 😁
How are you Pete, just put an order in for a 627 watch a lot of videos on these guns and had to order one, i plan on using it for clears and single stages but will need to see ?
Hi mate, you went for the 627. It's a good choice and often overlooked,I like it as it's less bulky than some so is more manoeuvrable than some
I have a PRD715 blue one on its way now right now from a friend who does reviews on youtube and got one from them. Im fortunate because you cant get them here in the US
Hi buddy, I think you'll enjoy it. You will be able to get them now. They have just launched a retail website. The link is in the description.
Let us know what you think of it, good or bad, as it helps others decide , cheers, buddy 👍
@peteshobbies5383 sure will. I needed a faster clear coat gun. I love my 3 Dv1 guns but the DV1-C is great its just a bit slow that on some vehicles its dry before i get around the car.
@user-un5my5bw4j The 715 or 625 will suit you if you like them fast, it's a hose and very good.
I'm not sure about reliability yet, I've had no problems at all and the fit and finish of the gun is holding up really well so I'm getting less and less concerned about how reliable they will be, only time will tell but I'm pretty confident 😁
Cheers buddy 👍
What did you pay for this great gun? Thanks
@@peteshobbies5383how is it for over spray? I got it for $200 from my friend its on its way now. I saved $40 plus shipping. I checked the link you had i may grab one of those prd-51 1.8mm MP guns for primer too
Hi,Pete could you help what do I need to make pannel wipe thanks for any information.alf..
Hi Mate, normally you will buy a ready-made panel wipe, you can and I do use one that is 80% alcohol and 20% water, but alcohol isn't any good on basecoat as it can remove it when it's fresh, panel wipe doesn't
Pete I need your help urgently. Respraying a car that's had a damage repair. Every time I put any kind of primer over the filled area the paint reacts. Any ideas?
Hi Christopher, are you using a 1k primer by any chance?
@@peteshobbies5383 no Pete it's 2k. It kind of wrinkles up. I sand it off but it does it again 😫
@christophervian1784 If you are putting it on too heavy, it will stay wet for too long and react. If the temperature is cold, it will do the same thing.
To try and stop it, warm the work up, warm the mixed primer up, dust it on, warm the area and dust it on again, and repeat until you get enough on to sand, it will take a wile but you should get there.
If there's plenty on there and it wrinkles, you make be able to sand it flat anyway without going through the primer.
If you really can't get anywhere, you can try a sealer like Upol Barcoat, or, the preferred method. Take it back to the metal or plastic and start again.
It's sometimes why you may see me put quite a few light coats of primer or base coat onto something, it's because your unsure of the substrate, hope that help 😉
PS, let us know how you get on, cheers 🍻
@@peteshobbies5383 hi Pete thank you so much!!! I did exactly as you said with 3 light coats. Zero reaction! Absolutely fantastic mate. Thank you so much 🙏
You're welcome buddy, good to hear it worked. It's a bit like that going over repairs as there's often a chance it will react, so it's best to take it easy and build the coats up, takes time but saves time in the long run, thanks for letting us know, cheers mate 👍
Dang Pete! I just contacted them about sending me the 625 and 715... I may have to switch to the 717 lol
Hi Bradley, The 717 is slower, but atomisation is finer, I've only just started using it, but it works really well at low pressures, you can order cap and tip sets so you can change to whatever you want, 717 ir 715, as far as I can see, the gun bodies are the same, cheers mate, let us know what you think when you get them👍
I want to buy these guns! How is this possible?
Hi Stanislav, there's links in the description, they now have a retail website, here's the link,
www.porphis-online.com/collec...
@@peteshobbies5383 thank you very much!
Hey do you know what size pps adapter these use? I use pps 2.0 cups in 13.5oz and 22oz here helps me save in lacquer thinner of not having to clean out mixing cups and gravity cups. Especially with lacquer thinner being $23/gallon now.
I think it's a number 27 or 9, it needs a 16mm x 1.5 as far as I know, I've messaged Porphis to find out for sure , I'll let you know 👍
@@peteshobbies5383thanks Pete
@@peteshobbies5383 its the S9 Pete. Same as the spectrum black widow uses. I picked up the spectrum fast cup set yesterday which is a replicated pps 1.0 set along with there adapter. Tried it last night and it worked great. I will now order the 3M S9 pps 2.0 adapter. Thanks for giving me the thread pitch to figure it all out. Here in the US i do not know metric threads like i do SAE
That's the one then. The 27 and 9 are the same threads, but if we know the 9 fits, then that's the one to go for. Cheers guys, good to see us all helping each other.
Porphis has confirmed it: an M16 x 1.5 👍
@user-un5my5bw4j Thanks, buddy 👍
Hi pete everyone are buying thease spray guns phorpis 717 1.3 and a 715 pete whats the difference between the two I know ones got a split nozzle so pete is the phorpis 715 a clear coat paint gun 🔫
Hi Andrew, Yes, they are getting about a bit now. You can use both for base or clear
hi pete, they are not exactly Chinese in price. the lady asked me 170 usd for the PRD510 mini spray gun model, shipped to Italy, with other customs money, it would have cost more than 200 usd. with a few dollars more I can buy the LPH80.
the 717 is nice, but 430L/min is too much for a hobbyist compressor
ciao
Hi Ciao, They aren't prices you normally associate with Chinese guns on Aliexpress and the like, but they really aren't like them either, particularly the PRD series of gun which really are made very well and perform really well.
I have just ordered a PRD515 with a 510 tip & cap set. To be honest, I don't mind paying the money as I'm happy with the gun's, hopefully the 510/515 will be as good as the others I have.
In the UK, something like an LPH80 is around 260GBP, so around 330 USD so they still seem cheap, in fact that's around AZ4 money in the UK which isn't made anywhere near as well, hopefully anyway as I haven't got the 515 yet 🤣.
In my mind, I'm thinking, or hoping should I say, that the 510 set up will be something like an Pro Lite S, so more universal than a LPH80 which can be slow for bigger items.
The air consumption on the 717 is shown as high, but in reality, it's the same or lower than the 715 as you need less pressure to get results, bit like an LPH400 or Wider4L.
Cheers, buddy, I appreciate it 👍
Looks like they ripped off an LPH400 tip? I should've watched the rest before I commented!
Hi mate, it's similar in that it has a split tip but is quite different in most other respects, it's sort of a cross between a WS400 & a Sata 5000 with a bit of Sagola 4600 1.3XL thrown in, it's superbly balanced, you just don't feel the weight.
I was genuinely excited to get it as I'm really happy with the 715, so I couldn't resist this one.
Cheers buddy 👍
Split tip isn’t new iwata has had split tips for ages, why are they calling it new tech ?
Hi buddy, where am I calling it new technology? 🤔
It'd be good if you could hold the trigger in and see how long it takes for the compressor to kick in, like you did with the LVLP guns.
Hi mate, I did think about doing that, I knew the 717 was supposed to be 15.5cfm, and I could see the size of the air holes in the air horns.
What I didn't know, but do now, is that this gun doesn't need anything like the pressure I tried this at, it's excellent for clear coat at 19 to 20 psi which means it's using less than the 715, it is, as I had expected, slower than the 715 even though the 717 is 1.4 and the 715 is 1.3 as all the split tip guns are relatively slow.
Cheers, buddy, I appreciate it 👍