@@juanmata2433 Me too. I see all these guys acting like blending silvers in the middle of a door is not difficult most times. Or like theres never a problem. 😁 This guy knows his stuff
@@frankartale1026 yea his silver blend was flawless. Sun light never lies. Key with that wet bed though. Sometimes I need to sand and recoat with wet bed and respray. but I can get it. Out of practice havent been a body shop painter in 30 years. I quit the industry and went to signs when I was in my 20s. But made painter at 19. unheard of today.
Awesome review, I’m getting ready to spray my 1966 El Camino myself, I haven’t painted a car in over 30 years and bing watching you, Brian, and Triggerman in preparation. I have the A610, a sub $250 Iwata for primer, and now looking at this gun. Thanks Kandy Man.
Great review Kandy Man, those Porphis guns are really good and the build quality is up there with all the leading manufactures, I've had three Porphis guns on loan the PRD625 , PRD715 and a side cup gun the WP9, the 625 and 715 sprays the basecoat really nice and are superb for a clear gun but I wasn't so keen on the WP9. Thanks for sharing your thoughts Kandy Man and please keep us updated on how they hold up👌🙏👍John UK
I purchased a $100.00 spray gun from Amazon that had that same style tip in it and it did an awesome job spraying clear as well, Atomized the clear really well and laid it out super smooth. It supposedly was a De Vilbiss knock off.
What’s ur thoughts on th Sagola 3300 GTO as a beginner ?this Porphis 717 VS is definitely on my on my list for clear coats but kinda was looking at a all around gun An th Sagola 3300 really has a lot of features I would only used it for base coats not my primers 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Hi Kandy Man, I just received my Porphis 715 two days ago. China to Colorado shipping took 7 days! Incredible. Once the spray gun hit the US it went by USPS. Porphis provided a tracking number and I watched the entire trek. They used an internal shipper in and out from China but all legit. Now to the Spray Gun. I was not asked if I wanted my name stenciled to the side of the gun. I think that service is only provided for professional folks. I could be wrong on that. This spray gun comes in the PRD-715, 716, and 717 models. They all use the same body. The 715-MP, 716-HVLP and the 717-VS tips/nozzle is what makes them different. If one purchases the PRD-715 it comes with the 1.3 MP nozzle. BUT one can purchase the PRD 717-VS nozzle separately for $119.41. The PRD-715 currently sells for $259.59 add the VS Needle, Split Nozzle and Air cap kit of PRD-717. (Suit for all guns of PRD-71 Series.) for $119.41 for a total of $379.00 + Shipping of around $25. I'm not sure being a DIY'er I need the VS tip. But it sure is nice to know it's available for the better painters out there. Thanks for doing this video!!!!
It took 14 days to GUAM, weird because i'm closer to China. I got the cheap PHS 135 because i'm just DIYer. Did yours come with a hand written greeting card? Nice of them to do that.
also i thought 715 1.3 or 1.4mm is for Clear coat spray gun LVMP but 7171 is for base coat only?? which i know both can do base & clear but for specific i think purpose 715 & 717 is for clear & base, i hopping this is correct ???
I ended up buying a Porphis PRD-715 1.3MM for clear because I needed something faster than my DV1-C for doing complete respray work. I love my three DV1 guns but find myself using the Porphis prd-715 for clear constantly. It really is that good. Mine is not the 717 with v shape cap. I always spray high solids and prefer the 1.2mm with my DV1-C because it seems to break up the high solids better but I am amazed how fine this $250 Porphis prd-715 1.3mm atomizes my sikkens high solids clear
@kandyman5315 for $250 I really dont know if there is a gun out there that atomizes that fine and is able to actually maintain that atomization throughout the process. It really reminds me of a DV1-C fine atomization only with twice the matetial output. Only con i can give it is its a little loud. The air really hums going through
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Right on the money as usual. Thank you for the review. Had those two for a bit now, and I have both the MP 1.3. 1.4 sets for the 715 and the VS 1.3, 1.4 sets for the 717. Totally different characters on those two guns, but I like them both. I just wonder how long they will last, but no issues so far. And I know you can get parts for them.
What really surprised me on the 717 was that 20-22 psi is actually atomizing the DCU2002 great and giving me an even fan. I haven’t sprayed this clear at that low of a pressure on any of my other guns.
What would you recommend to learn on and stick with for car restorations, between these guns for base and clear? Looking to spend under $300. Porphis 717 Master Elite 88 Black Widow Drizzle I have a 80 gallon 2 stage compressor. Thank you in Advance!
@@kandyman5315 What do you think about the Porphis phs-155 w/1.8 for primer? I currently have a harbor freight syphon feed for primer. Or any other recommendations? Thanks again.!!
Thanks for video How many inch gap when u trying spray metallics paint on panel on 715 ?? And how many inch u spray gap for clear 717 ?? Thinking get iWata LPH-400 for metallics & pearl gun with purple cap nozzle and & orange cap for base & clear But I do see a lot feed back on those Porphis guns thought Also on Blue Porphis gun 715 u buy with cap 1.3mm using for metallics or 1.4mm ?? I do see they offer 1.3 & 1.4mm 1.4mm can do good for base & sealer too right ??
I dont have the money to buy a ws gun so I cant compare.....But That porphis sprayed a bout the best I have ever used. IMO better than my Tekna prolite with the TE20 air cap and 1.3 or 1.4 tip. easier to spray with. Less Fog so in a non spray booth environment it is key. I noticed you did not trigger off the edges so the fog was a bit higher on your video. But still a excellent spray job. IMO I have not been able to beat porphis. It will be my primary clear gun. No need for anything better because I can easily get a perfect finish with it.
I use high end clears. But they are cheaper than the ones from PPG....I dont need a guarantee because I do it right and it will last. There are cheaper brands that are super high solids....Many use BASF Resins which IMO are the best. I prefer them over PPG resins. Brands Like Chameleon, Silco and Kapci are super high solids over 50% which is top of the line. They use premium BASF resins. Great for the DIY guy who wants premium clear for less money.
I love your videos, your the best. I may just buy one of these. What size tip/needle did the bronze one have and do you think it would work for basecoat too? Wait, we need another video!
If I buy a 717 should I get a 1.3 or a 1.4? I’d like to use the same gun for base and clear. I’m trying to learn and was gunna use a different one from them with a 1.8 to do primers. Does this seem right or should I change up the idea
Interesting do you know or would another painter that has demo them what country are they manufactured from. The reason I ask I would love to try them out at our training centre as a grate student gun
@@kandyman5315 thanks for replying we are in Australia on the east coast. I've always lóoked after the guns myself but now we are training youth keeping then and them being cleaned properly is a huge challenge with the youth of today. I also wonted to import from China as I think it could be another avenue of training selling to the industry but lots of samples we have purchase already have have really only been garbage bin worthy. But I watch lots of your vids your recommendation goes a long way I will try and reach out to a few suppliers to see what manufacturing company in China sells them thanks again
After watching you walk out of the harbor freight on the black widow .. I NEVER thought id see you with the phorphis 🤣🤣🤣 But honestly I feel like with your skillset you can make any gun work !
Best Channel on Spray Guns. I'm doin this 30 years and out of all the channels. This guy is the best !
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28yrs on my end and still learn from the channel. Totally agree 💯
@@juanmata2433 Me too. I see all these guys acting like blending silvers in the middle of a door is not difficult most times. Or like theres never a problem. 😁 This guy knows his stuff
@@frankartale1026 yea his silver blend was flawless. Sun light never lies. Key with that wet bed though. Sometimes I need to sand and recoat with wet bed and respray. but I can get it. Out of practice havent been a body shop painter in 30 years. I quit the industry and went to signs when I was in my 20s. But made painter at 19. unheard of today.
Awesome review, I’m getting ready to spray my 1966 El Camino myself, I haven’t painted a car in over 30 years and bing watching you, Brian, and Triggerman in preparation. I have the A610, a sub $250 Iwata for primer, and now looking at this gun. Thanks Kandy Man.
I love that year 66 and 67
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Great review Kandy Man, those Porphis guns are really good and the build quality is up there with all the leading manufactures, I've had three Porphis guns on loan the PRD625 , PRD715 and a side cup gun the WP9, the 625 and 715 sprays the basecoat really nice and are superb for a clear gun but I wasn't so keen on the WP9.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Kandy Man and please keep us updated on how they hold up👌🙏👍John UK
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Beautiful work 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🇬🇧
I purchased a $100.00 spray gun from Amazon that had that same style tip in it and it did an awesome job spraying clear as well, Atomized the clear really well and laid it out super smooth. It supposedly was a De Vilbiss knock off.
wat was name or model number
@WilfredGreen-ov8bh prd 715 ,prd 717
@@kandyman5315 neither 1 is 100$ on amazon as stated on comment!!
Thank u Kandyman we really appreciate u 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Any time
What’s ur thoughts on th Sagola 3300 GTO as a beginner ?this Porphis 717 VS is definitely on my on my list for clear coats but kinda was looking at a all around gun An th Sagola 3300 really has a lot of features I would only used it for base coats not my primers 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Hi Kandy Man, I just received my Porphis 715 two days ago. China to Colorado shipping took 7 days! Incredible. Once the spray gun hit the US it went by USPS. Porphis provided a tracking number and I watched the entire trek. They used an internal shipper in and out from China but all legit. Now to the Spray Gun. I was not asked if I wanted my name stenciled to the side of the gun. I think that service is only provided for professional folks. I could be wrong on that. This spray gun comes in the PRD-715, 716, and 717 models. They all use the same body. The 715-MP, 716-HVLP and the 717-VS tips/nozzle is what makes them different. If one purchases the PRD-715 it comes with the 1.3 MP nozzle. BUT one can purchase the PRD 717-VS nozzle separately for $119.41. The PRD-715 currently sells for $259.59 add the VS Needle, Split Nozzle and Air cap kit of PRD-717. (Suit for all guns of PRD-71 Series.) for $119.41 for a total of $379.00 + Shipping of around $25. I'm not sure being a DIY'er I need the VS tip. But it sure is nice to know it's available for the better painters out there.
Thanks for doing this video!!!!
Don't know about you but I love my 715.. awesome for clear
It took 14 days to GUAM, weird because i'm closer to China. I got the cheap PHS 135 because i'm just DIYer. Did yours come with a hand written greeting card? Nice of them to do that.
@@toycoma98 yes I got the greeting card saying welcome to porphis
You are an excellent painter you make any gun work with your experience thanks for the review might purchase it God bless you
Appreciate the support
Great Video....One of the Best I have watched.
How is the Transfer Efficiency on theese 2 Guns compared to the High End Guns You use in Your Shop ?
They work very well
Very cool Mr.......👍
Awesome Job on a budget! If they perform great with the cup! Pretty sure you will love them with the 3 M pps system 2.0 👊🏽🙌🏽✌🏽
Would you suggest this gun for someone starting out at a shop?
Absolutely my friend 👊
also i thought 715 1.3 or 1.4mm is for Clear coat spray gun LVMP but 7171 is for base coat only?? which i know both can do base & clear but for specific i think purpose 715 & 717 is for clear & base, i hopping this is correct ???
I ended up buying a Porphis PRD-715 1.3MM for clear because I needed something faster than my DV1-C for doing complete respray work. I love my three DV1 guns but find myself using the Porphis prd-715 for clear constantly. It really is that good. Mine is not the 717 with v shape cap. I always spray high solids and prefer the 1.2mm with my DV1-C because it seems to break up the high solids better but I am amazed how fine this $250 Porphis
prd-715 1.3mm atomizes my sikkens high solids clear
They do work great 👍
@kandyman5315 for $250 I really dont know if there is a gun out there that atomizes that fine and is able to actually maintain that atomization throughout the process. It really reminds me of a DV1-C fine atomization only with twice the matetial output. Only con i can give it is its a little loud. The air really hums going through
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kandy man - paint
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luxury car repair - collision/ body
kandy definitely the man for paint👌
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You forgot triggerman
Excelente trabajo🔥💯👏
Right on the money as usual. Thank you for the review. Had those two for a bit now, and I have both the MP 1.3. 1.4 sets for the 715 and the VS 1.3, 1.4 sets for the 717. Totally different characters on those two guns, but I like them both. I just wonder how long they will last, but no issues so far. And I know you can get parts for them.
👊👊
What really surprised me on the 717 was that 20-22 psi is actually atomizing the DCU2002 great and giving me an even fan. I haven’t sprayed this clear at that low of a pressure on any of my other guns.
What would you recommend to learn on and stick with for car restorations, between these guns for base and clear?
Looking to spend under $300.
Porphis 717
Master Elite 88
Black Widow
Drizzle
I have a 80 gallon 2 stage compressor.
Thank you in Advance!
Porphis is my choice
@@kandyman5315 Thank you!
@@kandyman5315 What do you think about the Porphis phs-155 w/1.8 for primer? I currently have a harbor freight syphon feed for primer. Or any other recommendations? Thanks again.!!
Thanks for video How many inch gap when u trying spray metallics paint on panel on 715 ?? And how many inch u spray gap for clear 717 ??
Thinking get iWata LPH-400 for metallics & pearl gun with purple cap nozzle and & orange cap for base & clear
But I do see a lot feed back on those Porphis guns thought
Also on Blue Porphis gun 715 u buy with cap 1.3mm using for metallics or 1.4mm ?? I do see they offer 1.3 & 1.4mm
1.4mm can do good for base & sealer too right ??
They are great for all paints i recommend 1.3
@@kandyman5315 event iwata Orange cap LPH-400 Lvx 1.3mm & Purple cap for 1.3mm all base & clear ??
@thanhnguyen4908 orange
so it sounds like if space is limited and you do a really good job sanding that you can get away without using the sealer, as long as you wetbed?
So you had the prd 1.3 for base what was the # for clear and tip.
What can you leave inside the booth when you bake?
Thanks for info
No problem
@@kandyman5315 are you shooting waterborne
I was hoping id see some good reviews for these. Thanks !!
Glad you like them!
I dont have the money to buy a ws gun so I cant compare.....But That porphis sprayed a bout the best I have ever used. IMO better than my Tekna prolite with the TE20 air cap and 1.3 or 1.4 tip. easier to spray with. Less Fog so in a non spray booth environment it is key. I noticed you did not trigger off the edges so the fog was a bit higher on your video. But still a excellent spray job. IMO I have not been able to beat porphis. It will be my primary clear gun. No need for anything better because I can easily get a perfect finish with it.
Please do a review on your festool setup
Check out one of the older videos it's on the channel
I use high end clears. But they are cheaper than the ones from PPG....I dont need a guarantee because I do it right and it will last. There are cheaper brands that are super high solids....Many use BASF Resins which IMO are the best. I prefer them over PPG resins. Brands Like Chameleon, Silco and Kapci are super high solids over 50% which is top of the line. They use premium BASF resins. Great for the DIY guy who wants premium clear for less money.
I love your videos, your the best. I may just buy one of these. What size tip/needle did the bronze one have and do you think it would work for basecoat too? Wait, we need another video!
1.3
What about metallics & pearls paint ‘ spray ??
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Do you let your wet bed flash or do you apply base while it’s still wet? I’ve seen both.
If I buy a 717 should I get a 1.3 or a 1.4? I’d like to use the same gun for base and clear. I’m trying to learn and was gunna use a different one from them with a 1.8 to do primers. Does this seem right or should I change up the idea
Yes 1.3 for base and clear 1.8 primer
🔥, any input on the Fuji MP gun?
I'm a fan of it
Where do you get your guns from and more specifically where can we get this one from?
Www.porphis.com
What size pps adapter do these guns use?
S2
Anyone know if the luma or walcom lights will fit the porphis gun?
Check with lumaiii.com
Kandy Man, will the bronze gun with the V Style tip spray base also?
Yes 👍
What are the CFM requirements for these guns? We don't all have huge 80 gallon compressors, thanks.
Check their website
I got the cheap $47 gun. Haven't sprayed with it yet. There is a promo right now, get the PHS 135, PRD 510, or PRD 627 and get free shipping.
Interesting do you know or would another painter that has demo them what country are they manufactured from. The reason I ask I would love to try them out at our training centre as a grate student gun
China but they are available in the US great guns so far
@@kandyman5315 thanks for replying we are in Australia on the east coast. I've always lóoked after the guns myself but now we are training youth keeping then and them being cleaned properly is a huge challenge with the youth of today. I also wonted to import from China as I think it could be another avenue of training selling to the industry but lots of samples we have purchase already have have really only been garbage bin worthy. But I watch lots of your vids your recommendation goes a long way I will try and reach out to a few suppliers to see what manufacturing company in China sells them thanks again
@steveriddell1937 anytime
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I totally agree!
Looked like they had a nice big fan
Just started watching- I bet the standard tip works better.
Do they have a LVLP gun? I have a 27gal 5.1 scfm @90 n have no idea if I could even use a porphis
Yes they do
You got new subs
It is better than w400 bellaria??
Yes
Yep, imma get one.
Well worth getting
Where i can get this ? Link pls
Check the web
I've been spraying only high solids clear at home I didn't even think anyone bought other wise ?
Is it lvlp
They do make lvlp
you and a few others i watch said the exact same thing about the gun
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After watching you walk out of the harbor freight on the black widow .. I NEVER thought id see you with the phorphis 🤣🤣🤣
But honestly I feel like with your skillset you can make any gun work !
I just subbed for the giveaway
The gun looks so much like Sata
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