Same. I switched last year and had great results. Complete pass throughs on tough shots. Magnus Black Hornet serrazor 125 gr, 114gr insert, 17% FOC set up. Just like he says in the video, TUNE YOUR BOW! The fixed blades will fly like a field point.
It's crazy how we hunt a few weeks out of the year and go to these levels of bs looking for right stuff. Natives used 30 pound wood bow with cat gut string and a stick with a rock tied to it to feed themselves for thousands of years
I have been impressed with my Black Hornet heads. Fly superb out to 50. Pass thru has not been a problem. When I'm having a good day shooting I have cut vanes off at 40
Great video. There is another video online where the guy shoots a broadhead (can't remember type) and records it in two different scenarios. In one, he puts the camera at the target (40 yards). In the other, he puts the camera at 20 yards and shoots over it. When the camera is at 20 yards, you can hear the broadead/arrow pass by. However, when the arrow is at the target, you can't hear it. You just hear the arrow hit. Now, this is limited by my ears and the microphone. Also, at 20 yards you hear the arrow approach and leave (more time to hear). However, it makes me wonder if the air being directed to the side and behind doesn't also lead to the sound moving in that direction mostly also (as sound is just arrow vibration/disturbance). So, from the deer's perspective I wonder how much it matters. I suppose you could record as you shoot overhead and then look at the sound over time. You should see a "hump" as it passes over and might be able to get at all of this more.
Yeah the issue is the the sound at the target....the arrow is going so fast that the target impact drowns out the arrow flight sound.....we are going to do a 100 yard shot this year with the decibel reader at 25 and 40 yards and directly under the arrow so we get a real sound reading with no shot noise and no impact noise to contend with....interesting stuff for sure
Joe can you guys do this same testing with some more broadheads? Very helpful and we all wonder. Maybe some solid blades? The new 3 blade from G5, cutthroats etc.
I cant justify the price for the IW head when I can get the Black hornet for a fraction of the price plus a lifetime warranty!!! I'll go BH and it will be just as dead and save money. Good review also.
greg monera thanks for commenting....when you say it is louder than the black hornet can you dive in to that a little deeper....is this something you have tested or just something you notice when you are shooting them? What issues have you had with customer service? I love the BH as well great head...as you saw in our test the were just a slight bit quieter than the IW....I do like the IW wide for that wider cut
joemileshunting when I tested the V series, I noticed my arrow noise right from when the arrow is shot from my bow. In comparison to other broadheads, I don’t seem to hear the arrow noise until it’s half way between me and the target. This is what prompted me to do some more testing. I tried different fletchings and slightly different length arrows (.75” difference). Both arrows are VAP ss (300). In my findings, I learned that my setup is the quietest using feathers, blazer and AAE Max vanes. Imagine a baseball field (I didn’t use an actual baseball field), my target is at home base. I’m shooting from second base (30 yards away). One person is standing at first and the other is at third base. I shot the V series, magnus black hornet and montec g5. Without knowing which broadhead I shot, both people picked the V series to be the loudest by a significant margin. I shot all three broadheads in different order each set. We did three sets.
joemileshunting As for their customer service, I guess I was expecting some understanding from them considering these broadheads are expensive and they have a lifetime warranty (I consider the loud noise a defect). Additionally, I explained to them that I’m leaving this week for my hunting trip. So there is some time constraints. I ask if I could return and exchange the Vseries for the S series. They told me I could...just the ones that I have not used. Also, I’ll have to cover shipping (both ways). I was advised to order the S series and have it shipped over night (another $34 for shipping) to receive the broadheads by Friday or Saturday. Then return the unused V series after. I ordered the S series broadhead last Wednesday morning. Eight days later, I still haven’t received the S series. I was able to get Bill (the co-founder) on the phone last Monday (I’ve been trying to get a hold of their customer service since). He gave me the option of cancelling my order (S series) and returning the unused broadheads for a refund. Or, he would cover the overnight shipping and ship the S series on Monday. On Monday, I received a refund of $27 for shipping. I still had to pay regular shipping of $7.95.
Iron will is much more expensive, hard to justify. They are excellent, no doubt. If you can afford, there is also German kinetic. Magnus is awesome and affordable.
Riley Zayicek I did not test them out that far....they did great at 50.....one thing you have to be very careful with is making sure your arrows are out past the riser (don’t cut them too short) the WIDE will actually hit the riser if your arrow is too short but as long as you are out past all good
joemileshunting that’s what I was concerned about. I shoot trypans and cut my arrows as short as possible. I like that wide head though in case I go hunt in Idaho. The accuracy seems like it wouldn’t be a big issue with how large the vents are in that broadhead compared to a solid design with a ton of surface area
You will never get a fixed blade to shoot like a field point if you dont set your arrow up properly. Chances are if you are shooting expanding heads then your arrow is not set up for fixed heads so keep that in mind if you ever do go hunt in Idaho.
I shoot nothing but Magnus and will certainly continue to do so. But the Iron Will heads seem phenomenal as well :) Btw ya'll, the Stingers are a hair quieter than the black hornets. But the damage the black hornets produce is crazy.
I just ordered some for this season. They're behind by a month because of covid though. Can't wait to try them out with my new arrow setup. Good luck this year
What do think of the Iron Will single bevel ? Am a iron Will fan I like that they are come out with the single bevel. That’s a Ford not a Chez so be careful shooting close to that truck.
I have not tested any single bevel so can’t really say much there...I am looking forward to testing their new wide solid out that head looks awesome.....hahahahaha on the truck!!
Just switched to the Black Hornets and a heavier front loaded arrow this year. Can't wait for the season
Same. I switched last year and had great results. Complete pass throughs on tough shots. Magnus Black Hornet serrazor 125 gr, 114gr insert, 17% FOC set up. Just like he says in the video, TUNE YOUR BOW! The fixed blades will fly like a field point.
wow thanks for the confidence boost!
Iron will heads are great tried several wanting to try single bevel versions but I do love the wide cut its
Really accurate
Great info. I shoot these same Magnus but was interested in the Iron Will too.
Thx!
It's crazy how we hunt a few weeks out of the year and go to these levels of bs looking for right stuff. Natives used 30 pound wood bow with cat gut string and a stick with a rock tied to it to feed themselves for thousands of years
I have been impressed with my Black Hornet heads. Fly superb out to 50. Pass thru has not been a problem. When I'm having a good day shooting I have cut vanes off at 40
At a difference of 1.6 decibels, the Iron Will Wide is about 50% louder than the Magnus Black Hornet.
Great video. There is another video online where the guy shoots a broadhead (can't remember type) and records it in two different scenarios. In one, he puts the camera at the target (40 yards). In the other, he puts the camera at 20 yards and shoots over it.
When the camera is at 20 yards, you can hear the broadead/arrow pass by. However, when the arrow is at the target, you can't hear it. You just hear the arrow hit. Now, this is limited by my ears and the microphone. Also, at 20 yards you hear the arrow approach and leave (more time to hear). However, it makes me wonder if the air being directed to the side and behind doesn't also lead to the sound moving in that direction mostly also (as sound is just arrow vibration/disturbance). So, from the deer's perspective I wonder how much it matters.
I suppose you could record as you shoot overhead and then look at the sound over time. You should see a "hump" as it passes over and might be able to get at all of this more.
Yeah the issue is the the sound at the target....the arrow is going so fast that the target impact drowns out the arrow flight sound.....we are going to do a 100 yard shot this year with the decibel reader at 25 and 40 yards and directly under the arrow so we get a real sound reading with no shot noise and no impact noise to contend with....interesting stuff for sure
What about the one that's passed the target in the trees?
The veins you are using may also increase sound. Test might be quieter depending on veins used.
Yep we did a test of 3 different vanes as well in another video...the heat vanes were the quietest....thanks!
Joe can you guys do this same testing with some more broadheads? Very helpful and we all wonder. Maybe some solid blades? The new 3 blade from G5, cutthroats etc.
Josh Viar sure man....let me see what I can put together the next week or so....would love to get another test or two in before the opener
The Ranch Fairy is proud of you
He wouldn’t be proud of our mechanical test and the fact we shoot Rage Trypans 90% of the time now
I cant justify the price for the IW head when I can get the Black hornet for a fraction of the price plus a lifetime warranty!!! I'll go BH and it will be just as dead and save money. Good review also.
Andy Brooks yeah man that Black Hornet is a great head....really strong!
I have the V series IW and it is significantly louder than my black hornets.
Also, IW customer service isn’t good at all in my opinion.
greg monera thanks for commenting....when you say it is louder than the black hornet can you dive in to that a little deeper....is this something you have tested or just something you notice when you are shooting them? What issues have you had with customer service? I love the BH as well great head...as you saw in our test the were just a slight bit quieter than the IW....I do like the IW wide for that wider cut
joemileshunting when I tested the V series, I noticed my arrow noise right from when the arrow is shot from my bow. In comparison to other broadheads, I don’t seem to hear the arrow noise until it’s half way between me and the target. This is what prompted me to do some more testing.
I tried different fletchings and slightly different length arrows (.75” difference). Both arrows are VAP ss (300). In my findings, I learned that my setup is the quietest using feathers, blazer and AAE Max vanes.
Imagine a baseball field (I didn’t use an actual baseball field), my target is at home base. I’m shooting from second base (30 yards away). One person is standing at first and the other is at third base. I shot the V series, magnus black hornet and montec g5. Without knowing which broadhead I shot, both people picked the V series to be the loudest by a significant margin. I shot all three broadheads in different order each set. We did three sets.
joemileshunting As for their customer service, I guess I was expecting some understanding from them considering these broadheads are expensive and they have a lifetime warranty (I consider the loud noise a defect). Additionally, I explained to them that I’m leaving this week for my hunting trip. So there is some time constraints.
I ask if I could return and exchange the Vseries for the S series. They told me I could...just the ones that I have not used. Also, I’ll have to cover shipping (both ways).
I was advised to order the S series and have it shipped over night (another $34 for shipping) to receive the broadheads by Friday or Saturday. Then return the unused V series after. I ordered the S series broadhead last Wednesday morning. Eight days later, I still haven’t received the S series.
I was able to get Bill (the co-founder) on the phone last Monday (I’ve been trying to get a hold of their customer service since). He gave me the option of cancelling my order (S series) and returning the unused broadheads for a refund. Or, he would cover the overnight shipping and ship the S series on Monday.
On Monday, I received a refund of $27 for shipping. I still had to pay regular shipping of $7.95.
I shoot the iron will 125 wide crossbow heads and they slam right through deer and pigs and are easy to sharpen with a roller jig
Nice man…yep they are a great head!
Iron will is much more expensive, hard to justify. They are excellent, no doubt. If you can afford, there is also German kinetic. Magnus is awesome and affordable.
I agree. $49 vs $120 for 3 broadheads
@@timl8302 I'm with you, Magnus all day.
Tough to beat a cut to tip head!
Does the iron will group with your field points out to 100?
Riley Zayicek I did not test them out that far....they did great at 50.....one thing you have to be very careful with is making sure your arrows are out past the riser (don’t cut them too short) the WIDE will actually hit the riser if your arrow is too short but as long as you are out past all good
joemileshunting that’s what I was concerned about. I shoot trypans and cut my arrows as short as possible. I like that wide head though in case I go hunt in Idaho. The accuracy seems like it wouldn’t be a big issue with how large the vents are in that broadhead compared to a solid design with a ton of surface area
You will never get a fixed blade to shoot like a field point if you dont set your arrow up properly. Chances are if you are shooting expanding heads then your arrow is not set up for fixed heads so keep that in mind if you ever do go hunt in Idaho.
what arrow are you shooting
Victory RIP TKO 300 spine....playing around with the RIP XV 300 spines as well
What is your arrow setup in this video?
448 grain RIP TKO
@@JoeMilesMWT thanks man! Which one did you hunt with?
The Iron Will but I also shot a couple deer this year with the Rage Trypan....really like that head too
1/3 of the price, and lifetime warranty. No brainer for me lol
Great head for sure!
3 fletch fly ok?
Sure they do....I have seen a little more control with the 4 fletch
I shoot nothing but Magnus and will certainly continue to do so. But the Iron Will heads seem phenomenal as well :) Btw ya'll, the Stingers are a hair quieter than the black hornets. But the damage the black hornets produce is crazy.
Coy Leigh I thought the bee stinger were quieter and flew better in my experience. Not by much. I’m good with either one.
@@ghanja568 I agree. Personally, I feel like all the heads they produce are fantastic.
I just ordered some for this season. They're behind by a month because of covid though. Can't wait to try them out with my new arrow setup. Good luck this year
Lol....deer aint gonna hear anything but a loud thump...by then its too late...unless someone whistles Dixie....😂
Haven’t shot very many with a bow have you
What do think of the Iron Will single bevel ? Am a iron Will fan I like that they are come out with the single bevel. That’s a Ford not a Chez so be careful shooting close to that truck.
I have not tested any single bevel so can’t really say much there...I am looking forward to testing their new wide solid out that head looks awesome.....hahahahaha on the truck!!
Iron will is a lot more expensive 😫