Broadhead Battle: Magnus vs Exodus vs Muzzy
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- I put these three popular brands and six total heads in the "normal price" category, to a head to head test in Penetration, Cut Size, and Hard Impact Durability. Check it out!
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Man, hard to beleive how personal some people take these tests. Its like you talked against their favorite sports team or family member. I enjoy your reviews, keep up the good work. They help me to be alittle more informed, on what I may or maynot purchase in the future.
It is interesting :)
I shoot the Exodus, just not the swept blades. It does a good job, and the blades are easily resharpened. Always a pass through for me, and good blood trails. 31" draw, 70 lbs, with a 545 grain arrow. Flies well when the bow is tuned properly. I will have them back in the quiver for the next season. Good luck to all, aim small, miss small!
Thanks for sharing that.
Great video
Thank you Alfred.
I’m super happy with the performance I’ve gotten out of the Magnus Buzzcuts (which you have listed as Stinger Serrazors) here. I punched very cleanly through a big pig last season. Afterward, I checked the alignment of the head, sharpened it, and put it back into circulation. I’m sure these other heads are great too, but I wouldn’t discount a head just because it doesn’t hold up well when fired into a concrete block. If you hit something like that in the field, mistakes were made.
Thank you for the clarification! My bad. They are certainly great heads. I wouldn't discount them at all, but I would be concerned if I hit heavy bone.
The ser razors smash through large hog ribs and spinal cords. Not much alive with tougher ribs and nothing alive like concrete.
James Smullins no doubt about that. They seem like a great head.
I just wish they made a 150 and 200 grain head. I want to get total weight up to about 650gr and keep a decent foc.
Right now at 585gr with 17% foc which is fine on foc but busting big hogs is a lot easier with heavy arrows.
Just gives me more excuses to tinker and maybe try the vpa heads.
James Smullins you could always use a weighted insert.
I’ve shot all the magnus products and all the rage broadheads. This year I have switched to the Muzzy Trocar and trained with them a great deal. I have no idea why I hadn’t tried these sooner! They are flat-out the best flying broadhead I have ever shot and rotate perfectly with my helical vanes. Can’t wait to put it through some animal hide.
They are a great head. I don't think they're as good as the Exodus, but they are very good. I have another test of them that I did last year.
I agree David I use them to. Fly like lasers 🤙
I love your channel btw.....I geek out on archery as well
Haha. Thank you so much! My kids tease me for being such an archery nerd :) It's addictive, isn't it? Thanks for watching and commenting, brother!
I love the black hornet ser razr. I shot a doe through her scapula, Heart and two ribs. The broadhead keep its form and sharpness. Cleaned it off will be using it again. The blood trail was amazing.
Awesome. Great to hear. They are really good heads.
Good deal. These heads seem do leave a blood trail almost as good as a mechanical broadhead. Will the serrated blade cause more damage than the straight edge?
@@MagnusBroadheads thank you for a great reply.. I totally agree!!
Que bueno, realmente bueno este estudio, me encanta
Thanks for watching.
Shot a big buck with the black hornet serrazor this year. Ended up getting stuck in the rear shoulder. I eventually pryed it out and it's ready to be used again.
That's good to hear. They are great heads, no doubt. Thanks for sharing that.
great job
Thank you Heather!
Shot a monster buck several years ago with a magnus stinger. Hardly any penetration and the buck got away. Its been 17years ago and it still haunts me to this day
Wow, that's strange. They are typically a very good penetrating head.
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Oh, I'll change that. Thanks
Dude, it was hard keeping my eyes open when the cinder block appeared, I understand this is a review and if there will ever be a time where I destroy a $40+ arrow like that I will have to cry.
Right? I felt the same. I've since changed to an arrow that doesn't break nearly as much. You ought to see the Premium Head Broadhead Battle. In that one, each of the broad heads cost at least $33 a piece!
Slick Trick should be in this mix. Either the Magnum or Grizz 2.
Yeah, I just didn't have any on hand when I did this test. I have taken a lot of animals with STs and I have a vid test of the Wicked Trick here on my Channel. I also am just about to post a test of the Grizz Trick 2. Thanks for watching and commenting. I really appreciate it.
I like the comparisons. I'm surprised you haven't tested VPA broadheads.
Thanks Zeb. I've tested one in the Double Bevel vs Single Bevel vid. And I'm just finishing up a test of a 3 blade, 1 1/4" model now.
best to test them on deer not concert blocks
Haha. I get it. And I do shoot a lot of animals with the heads I test. The cinder block test is just one more data point. A zero penetration test like this is a good one to test the structural integrity of a head. It's certainly not necessary for a head to be good, but if I have a choice between a head that can handle cinder block and one that can't, all other things equal, why not pick the one that can?
Does shooting into a hard (concrete) block reveal much? Obviously a chisel style tip will be better for concrete but maybe not genuine hide? Otherwise enjoyed the video. Thanks
They only reveal how a head handles a very hard, zero penetration impact. Is it necessary for a head to handle concrete in order to kill an animal? Of course not. But if I were choosing between 2 heads and one can handle being shot into concrete and one cannot, all other things equal, I'd choose the one that can. Hitting a shoulder joint or hip joint can happen in the field.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures just not the same!!!
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I 100% agree with you, I can't understand why others can't see that! I'm on my future broadhead hunt right now, doing all kinds of research and watching many of your video's, I shot Traditional for years and pulled my clavicle very badley about 10 years ago and have been shooting a pair of PSE Stinger 3G single cam bows since then which I love by the way, nothing fancy but very dependable! It took me a year of using bands and then slowly working myself up on the PSE's to where I am now able to comfortably shoot 55 pounds (I tweaked it a bit this summer thinking I could crank them up to 65, lesson learned!!!) I would never have thought I'd be someone that would shoot expandable broadheads but for since being able to shoot again in 2013 I for reasons I can't remember other then reading 99% positive Cabela's reviews started shooting Wasp Jac-Hammers, while very pleased with them taking 9 South Dakota sized whitetails in 9 years with no problems what so ever, I've always been fortunate enough to make my shots broadside through the rib cage and they have been devastating with 0 issues but I can't help but feel that I have been pushing my luck and cringe when I think of the day when a buck jumps or what have you and I get one into one of the large shoulder bones up front! Also hopefully one of these years I'll have a huge buck quartering to me and then have a broadhead picked that I'll have confidence in! Anyway your reviews and others keep leading me back to the QAD Exodus, I'm thinking I should stick to a 3 blade over a 4 blade because of my lower poundage, in your opinion am I correct in this thinking? All of the years that I shot Traditional I always used Bear Broadheads with the bleeders, the older ones had steel ferrules, sometime I believe in the 90's they switched to aluminum ferrules and were not nearly as strong, but I always had a supply of the steel's! To be honest I could have done a better job of keeping them sharp, I'm just not one to sit around the campfire sharpening broadheads for hours on end, may as well be honest with myself and is why some of the modern replaceable blade heads draw my attention, although there are very few that as you well know are truly durable! Which leads me to my second and final question, it seems last winter when I was watching your reviews you reviewed a one piece head that could be sent back to the manufacturer periodically and for a charge they would put a new edge on it and send it back, am I correct on this and if so do you know which manufacturer it is that offers this service or am I dreaming? Some of those 3 and 4 blade heads you review are awesome! I really enjoy your channel, thanks for putting in all of the time you do to help your fellow archery hunters!
You should check out Paul Harrell's (sp?) channel. He puts a medium together that stimulates the human body. Would probably work well for a broadhead test.
Interesting. I'll look into it! Thank you.
Please test the Muzzy Merc. There are currently no youtube reviews of this broadhead.
Thank you for the suggestion. I'll look into it. I think there are so many heads that are 1 1/8" three blade already; larger is a bit more appealing.
Purchasing a Broadhead while considering bone punching capabilities is like purchasing a Broadhead while considering gut shooting capabilities. Nobody should EVER do that.
You need to purchase a Broadhead that is accurate sharp and as big as possible considering accuracy!
Nobody can say that their Broadhead will penetrate hard bone in all shot scenarios. There are simply too many variables. As an engineer you should know this. The only constant in nature is CHANGE!!
You do tests on fixed objects. I test on living animals. Almost 300 confirmed deer kills
All data recorded with wound channels shot distance KE recovery distance pics and loads of video.
That’s a decent data pool IMO.
Conclusion?
Most accurate sharpest And biggest cut surface.
Bleeding kills! Period!!!
Bone shots generally do not result in a recovered animal!
And free is good!
Well thanks for sharing Richard. Of course those other factors are crucial. But this was a durability test. Durability is just one component of a broadhead's worth but it is a worthy thing to test. My goal is to find a head that provides the best balance of: Accuracy, Edge Retention, Ferrule Strength, Cut size, and Penetration...for the animal that I am pursuing. Again, this was but just one way to test edge retention and ferrule strength. I have many other videos that test accuracy at ranges out to 100 yards and also depth of penetration. If you can find a head that Flies well, Cuts large, Penetrates deep...and holds its edge and has a high integrity of ferrule strength, then you have a winner.
"Normal priced" Thank you. Someone just recommended Bishop broadheads to me... Check those prices out. Give me a break.
Yeah, check out my vid test of them though. They will outlast any of us, that's for sure.
Thoughts on QAD exodus full vs swept blade in 125grain?
I prefer the Swept, as they are just as strong, but slightly more forgiving in flight.
What will penetrate bone better in your opinion from your testing? A exodus with the same full arrow weight or a 2 blade bishop or cutthroat head with the same arrow weight? Is a chisel tip better for bone penetration or a single beveled two blade?
So sorry for the incredibly late reply! Definitely a two blade single bevel.
Very interesting test. Do you believe the black hornet went deeper than the Black hornet Ser razor because the serrated edges catch more material and slows it down? Also will a serrated edge cause more trauma/blood trail or will a straight edge do better?
That's a good question. I believe the serrated will do better on tissue, as a serrated blade is superior in a slicing motion to a straight edge. But I don't think it will do more damage per se; it will just penetrate more deeply and cut more effectively, and in that sense will "do more damage."
@@LuskArcheryAdventures very good way to look at it. Some people say that a serrated cut will clot faster that a straight cut blade. Says the little cuts are easier to heal up. Not sure if that's true.
@@MagnusBroadheads That's great to hear. I just have to buy a pack and try them.
I'm in between the magnus kill bee and the qad exodus 125 gr. What we running men? May end up buying both, but which is flying better and less of a hassle?
Both are good heads...but the Exodus is much more durable.
Would you ever consider adding the VPA 3 blade head to one of these test?
Yeah, I would like to test those. I have gone with the Holy Trinity from Bishop for that style head, because it was designed by the same guy who designed VPAs, but they made the Holy Trinity shorter and stronger...not to mention it's made out of much better steel. That being said, the VPAs have a good price tag :) Thanks for watching and commenting!
Question I’m on the fence of what to get . I’m strictly a whitetail hunter and looking for a broadhead with a great cut as well as something that flies similar to field tips . I know this video is a few years old curious of what you would suggest. I appreciate the content thanks again
Thanks Christopher. The tests I've done in 2021 provide a lot more data than this older test. Hard to beat an Exodus for a fixed blade, or a Tooth of the Arrow. And hard to beat a Sevr 2.0 for a mech. Search for tests of those heads here on my channel...or any others you may be considering.
I love these style of videos keep em comin. Would you be interested in testing out vanes as well??
Thanks brother. I really appreciate the encouragement. I would like to do that at some point. But I have read quite a bit about vanes and how they compare; there's already a lot of great info out there on that. But I do appreciate the suggestion.
Plz watch Ranch Fairy, esp re: shooting into cinder block which has zero value in tests for durability. Bone is your only true medium for validity.
Thank you for watching David, and for commenting. I really appreciate it. I do follow Troy and love his vids. I do understand what you're saying about what really matters being an animal. However, there is a value in a zero penetration test--it tests the durability of the blades and the structural integrity of the head and ferrule. I've hit big hip sockets of hogs that have actually destroyed blades even more than a cinder block does. And when I'm comparing heads, there is zero value in comparing them against a non-uniform medium. Bones vary in density and geometry so greatly, that there is no way to draw any conclusions in comparing one broadhead to another. One head may hit a softer spot or it may hit it at a slightly different angle--and perform better or worse because of it. No test is perfect. That's why I try to use several different mediums when comparing heads. Even in that, it is what it is. Overall, if I can find a head that penetrates a softer medium really well and hold up to a zero penetration/hard impact test, why wouldn't I want to use that head?
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I disagree. Unless you plan on shooting your broadhead into rock and it's the only one in your quiver, at some point the Magnus heads (and others) are MORE than durable enough to do that job. I'd much rather have a cut-on-contact head that fails your cinder block "test" than have anything with a chisel point. BTW -- the serrated Stinger is the Buzzcut.
Lol mr.lusk sorry about the lisk my spell check on my phone took over and did it’s own thing
@@evanwindom3265 late comment. I hunted warthog in South Africa and was using a 150 grain single blade broad head and when it hit the hide of the pig I saw sparks. The pig moved 50 paces from where it was shot with a 70 pound Hoyt Magnatec bow. When I checked to see where the spark came from which I saw, I found that the warthog had been laying in the mud at a waterhole and it's hair was matted with mud and stones and some of the stones matted in the hair were at least half an inch in diameter. The broadhead had hit one of the stones in its hair causing the sparks and I found the some of the stone in-bedded in the blade, in the lung and the heart of the pig. It also had some sand and other grit stuck to the arrow and penetrated with the arrow. Even with that the broadhead passed through the pig and exited in front of the shoulder. If I was using a mechanical I think the blade would have shattered and if the broadhead was made of thin steel it would have severely damaged the cutting edge or Broken the cutting edge. Just one incident of many that I can relate to you with hunting in South Africa. Strange things happen and any testing is worth the effort no matter how unlikely the circumstance you may find when hunting in the field. You owe it to the animal you hunt to be as thorough as possible and make a clean and quick kill and drop the animal as soon as possible.
I have a soft spot for the Magnus stinger heads so this test makes me sad lol
Well, they are actually really good heads; just not designed for this type of test.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures they kill deer very well for sure. My buddy John killed a nice 8 point this fall with the stinger heads. 198 field dressed. Ran only 40 yd
@@LuskArcheryAdventures Exactly! Please name ONE -- just ONE -- broadhead that IS designed to be shot into cinder block. Go ahead. I'll wait...
Have u ever killed anything with the exodus? Was wondering how the bloodtrails would be
Oh yeah. I've killed over 50 animals with the Exodus. I consider it the best overall head there is, in the normal price category. Those blades hold their edge like very few other heads, and the tip is tough as nails. I used to shoot Slick Tricks, and took over 20 animals with them. They are great heads, but the Exodus gives me a bit better penetration and a wider hole. Of course, blood trail is more about shot placement than anything else, but I am convinced the Exodus gives me a better blood trail than most others. It's because it has that full 1 1/4" cut, with incredible edge retention so you get a bigger and deeper hole. Check out my vids of my hunts in Africa--they were all with the Exodus. You will see some of the holes and blood. :)
Have you tested any Slick Tricks? Most interested in Viper Trick 125
Thanks for watching Phil. Yeah, I used Slick Tricks for several years, and took over 20 animals with them. They are very good heads. The Viper flies extremely well...but doesn't have a very big cut. You can be very confident with Slick Tricks.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures Thank you. Love the channel and your tests!
Thank you sir!
Have you tested out America Broadhead company sonic heads?
I have...but I have not tested them. When they first came out they got a lot of buzz, cause they fly well. But then they got a lot of bad press cause they often fell apart in harder impacts.
Do you have any plans to test the Kudo points in the future?
Thanks Zac. I don't have that planned at this point. I have already tested so many different single bevels, including a couple that have a similar geometric design as the Kudus. There is an inherent flaw in that design. When the tip is super narrow, you do not get as much leverage to split a bone as you do with a single bevel head that has a broader tip. That's why Bishop used to make the Dicing Drill, but then realized from their research that the Scientific Method design was much more effective at breaching bone.
Nice video again.
Will you ever test NAP 100grain original thunderheads?
If not what are your thoughts on them?
Thanks
Thank you Adam. I am not really interested in testing them. They are one of the OG's :) for sure, and are a solid head...but there are way way better choices nowadays.
A friend of mine has about a dozen P&Y deer to his credit. He has also shot dozens of does. Everyone fell to a 100 gr. Thunderhead. Most shots are complete pass throughs. He also has shot a moose and several bears with them.
I know these tests can show durability, and penetrating ability. But in actual shots on animal these do little to mimic their abilities. One of the big factors left out in this test is hair. People constantly underestimate the ability that hair has to slow certain broadhead designs. Now granted most modern bows, compound or traditional are paired with hard hitting carbon arrows which transfer sheer force as much as the actual broadheads abilities but there are three major hiccups that I have. 1. trocar type heads. They are super tough and very very good on impact (as seen in the cinder block test) but animals aren't cinder blocks. These are the types of broadheads that hair has an effect on. These broadheads are not one piece. They can and do gum up in many situations because of what they are.....essentially a sharpened field point that meets a blade. #2 While it was mentioned here, I am not crazy about a broadhead that's intended to be replaced at my expense. Magnus has a lifetime warranty because they don't wilt and shrivel up like this when you shoot an animal in almost all cases. But even if they did they will be replaced. #3 One piece broadheads like stingers are hassle free. No blade changing, no install / tighten tools.
Muzzy's truly are a great product, but for taking non cinder-block animals in a wide array of bow types, poundages, species, temperatures, etc. I don't think you'll beat the value and lasting hassle free performance you get from magnus they're just an overall better design for the "everything" bowhunter. Good video though.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Not a fair representation because meat and bone are not cinder blocks .....flesh blood and bone are alive and plywood.....rubber mats ......and bricks aren’t animals.....test the Broadheads on critters and then we’ll talk
Sorry I missed this comment James. Of course I understand that. But I've tested over 150 heads now, and just can't test them all on animals. Check out the other tests on my channel and see how my testing has evolved.
so you said that you are using the plywood, foam, carpet, etc, to try to simulate an animal, and you admit that nothing really simulates an animal, other than an animal. but then you say you don't like to use an animal, because of varying geometry of the animal and varying bone densities, densities of tissue, and so forth?????? yet somehow you think that carpet, plywood, and foam will be a better simulation for your tests? than an animal?? and then you go on to shoot the heads into cinder as well. what does that simulate in a real-world environment? are these just simply "strength" tests, for random target shooting people? what animal is going to put that kind of a hurting on those heads?
and foam is not a good simulation of tissue. my target deer if made of foam, and there's never any chance of a pass-through, not even close. put some steaks up there to simulate actual tissue. you don't seem to have a problem wasting perfectly good heads by blasting them into concrete, waste some steaks and show us actual tissue cuts.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. There are a few different tests you are referencing; the goal of all of them is comparison between the various heads. For comparative tests to have any value, the mediums must be consistent and homogenous. If I were to fire 10 heads into the same animal, they would all have differing results due to the varying mediums (density and geometry) in that animal. Hence, the carpet, plywood, and foam. The goal of that was the use a consistent medium that is as similar to "an animal" as I could think of, without breaking the bank. The goal of the cinder block was pure durability testing. If one head can stand up to cinder block better than another, then it will likely do better on a hard bone hit as well. All of these heads would do well when shot into plain steaks; that was not my concern. But hard testing of the ferrule strength, blade strength and edge retention was my concern. Bone doesn't really show that in a comparative sense because of the varying densities of the bone and the varying geometries. I believe the test showed which heads could stand up to those tests and which could not. I want the ones that can handle as much as possible to be in my quiver.
Show the RESULTS show the BROADHEADS so we can see what is going on.
Thank you for watching.I'm not sure what you mean.This was one of my earliest tests, a few years ago.I have really improved My testing AndVideos since that time.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures Show the BROAD HEADS after your testing like after you shot the cement blocks. show the damage to the broadheads that is what I meant. Great job doing testing for us all.