Canon R5 vs Sony A7S III | Why I’m Switching
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Few More Details I want to Add about our tests.
The Sharpness Test at 3:09 - shot using the same lens on both cameras - Sigma Cine 24mm High-Speed Art Prime
Low Light Test at 16:50 - the low light might look better on the R5 but there was much more visible noise before youtube compression. The A7s III also can go way higher in ISO while maintaining a decent image(which I should have shown an example of but I was editing this part at 3:30am and got lazy 😂)
Ok, but your results and sharpness considerations are very different from those of Parker Walbeck where Canon R5 4K (NO HQ) is better than Sony.
See here: th-cam.com/video/_WBLMr6GqJg/w-d-xo.html
Are you not worried its just a software issue for the heating ?
Hi Gene can I please have your canon EOS R if you are willing to give it away please
The 7slll sure seems compelling. That low light was AMAZING! Thanks for the review!
😀🕺🏻🎥🏖🇦🇺
hi...I dunno if you know this chinese female vlogger named liziqi. her vlogs are all about her farm livings with many beautiful shots. can you tell what kind of cameras and lens is she using? is it difficult to produce similar short videos? here are some of her video clips. thank you for anwsering.
m.th-cam.com/video/b44xja5KeAo/w-d-xo.html
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I'm just jealous of having that many friends to talk about cameras with.
MPB 1 I hear you brother! 😂
kuku bird Or at least a working professional within the field and a sucessfull TH-camr. You become who you surround yourself with, laws of attraction and all that ...
jajajajajaja so true
It'd be easier in LA compared to elsewhere.
For real!
That was a lot of fun and we should do this again, what camera should we do another VS with? 🤷🏽♂️
Good choice
😂
a7siii vs the pocket 6k!!!
R5 vs R6
Arri AMIRA VS C500
youtubers: fighting over the specs of cameras like res,color science,fps bla bla....
me : watching all of their videos at 480p with 5 inch display
90 % will say this
Honestly, this is the reason I'm still okay with my 6D MkII for now. As long as its smooth, half of yall wont know the different on your phones.
I am on a 47 inch screen. Real men use big screens. Little boys use phones, which is fine baby boy. As long as you can see.
@@StarshipGhost "it's not size that matters"
Lol #facts 😂
Thanks for this fantastic comparison. I've been a Canon user for 12 years, but this is making me reconsider.
Matthew a huge fan of your work .
You have taken DIY projects to next level 💯🔥💯
Switching at this moment
Hah lul after c70 comes out** think again
You wasted 12 years of your life
You trust him?
“It’s just Sony offered a bigger pay check” 😂😂
Lol Sony Ambassadors don't get paid, they only get 20% off gear
Tactical Toolbox that’s the joke Gene made in the video ;)
@@TacticalToolbox Can they buy a large quantity and for resale?
CASE CLOSED.
@@PeacePham1991 well that wouldn't make much sense, if they want to buy gear for resale they could start a camera store and get like 50% off or even more.
That intro: and the Oscar goes to....
The kid from Up
I suppose each users needs differ and change over time
Great video as always, definitely gave me some major insight with this one.
Sony
Kevin ✌🏻
So much fun to watch! Thank you Guys. You are not only helping us learn, but the entertainment value is perfect!
Haven’t finished watching, but the Canon was improved for overheating and recovery in a firmware upgrade.
Canon just released the latest firmware (v1.6) for the R5. It now also has the “auto power off temp: high” setting. Based from the reviews, one person was able to record 4k HQ for 2 hours straight!
Connor McCaskill: MVP
Thank you. I was trying to figure out who this dude is. Potato's guests aren't mentioned in the show notes.
The real hero in this video is the R5's hotshoe mount. Looks like you could mount a horse on that thing and it would hold.
Didn't you hear? It's now used as a landing strip.
@@bemboing4338 Hahaha good point.
I'm hoping to mount a fire extinguisher in the r5 Hotshoe to put the fire
Idk why you haven’t been in my recommended feed in a while, but I’m glad you’re back. Great job.
POTATO!! Thanks for the quality content! Always look forward to it! 🔥🔥🔥
I think we'd all love a video about the 3 Memory Recall settings you set up and the scenes you use them for
subscribed, this was informative as hell, laid back, not forced comedy, awesome dude, thanks
Hands down the most entertaining comparison I ever came across and I watched A LOT of them :")
I’m gonna have to go with the Sony A7S3, although the R5 is an amazing camera, I’ve used both (I work at a camera store and got to play with both before they were released) and for video and low light photography, the A7S3 amazed me in many ways that the R5 just couldn’t quite reach. However, I’m biased and already shoot Sony so take that with a grain of salt
Some girls be like, "Sorry, only like men who love 120fps" haha
I am new to this channel and you guys are awesome, informative and unbiased och delivered with great comraderie. 👍🏼
Mannnnnn what a great content! Really very educational and fun video. Great job man
Sony slowly creeping to Potato Jet from the beginning and tries to convert him to Sony.
Sony had break the egg and converted Potato Jet
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@@NotRovb_ Nice!
CONCLUSION : You could still recreate the live action version of UP with either one :)
Thank you alot for doing the Canon ef lenses to the Sony e mount. I really was wondering about that! Nice job staying ahead of the game for us
Favorite features segment was really helpful 👍 great vid, tons of good info 👏
That intro was 😂😂😂😂😂
A fantastic hybrid of photo and video is the Lumix GH5; yes it’s micro 4/3 and all that stuff, but after using it for six months in photo and video it feels very well rounded and is a good inbetween
This has to be one of the best why I'm switching videos I've seen. Can't wait for the next one.
such a great video! thanks for all the informations and testings
Look how serious Gene looks with his used *Alexa* in the background. Bet he could waltz right up to Steven Spielberg
I’m looking forward to the entry level full frame Sony is supposed to come out with. I’d love the a7s but it’s not feasible for me just yet.
I’m still on the fence between switching over to Sony or stay with canon I only have an aps-c canon and a 1 inch sensor “bridge cam” originally got them for photography, but doing the TH-cam thing has really gotten me interested in video.
Thanks for the video Mr. Potato 💚💙💜
Hahaaaaaa that intro! What d what. Ok now on to watching the rest! Love it already 🙏🏽
Gene...loved the "round table" discussion starting around 18:30. That was GREAT...do it MORE. I mean, I respect your opinion, but it's terrific to hear other opinions as well. :)
That intro was simply amazing. I'm also switching to Sony in the moment I can. Especially after reading about the limitations that canon is making trough firmware to the R5
R5 heats like a motherfucker. Anyone buying the R5 for videography needs to seriously to rent it for a day and see it for themselves before spendig their hard earned money. 240 FPS on the sony is insane!
@@headbang3r519 at the end I purchased the Sony fx30 together with a ninja v and a v Mount battery, I can’t be more happy
This has been the most enjoyable, informative vlog I have ever seen. Seriously so so helpful in the decision making process. Sony it is for me 😁 I have lenses for both, so I can sell my canon with all lenses and put it towards my next Sony. So excited! Thank you so much guys! 💖
Keep your Canon. Often a second camera is better. While SONY is feature packed, you will realise how warm the color of Canon are.
That intro was 😂😂😂😂😂
Nice video - well done guys 👍
Great job. Thanks for this comparison.
The intro though, halerious 😂
The home studio set looks really good!
I dont think anyone has called a camera tostie😂
Also do you use the classic bendy Joby tripod or that magnetic tripod that you just snap up or just put it down, it was in the shot at 18:01 (forgot the name of it😂)
We all have our preferences and that's ok -- but no matter how much Armando tries to deny it, he's truly a Canon fanboy lol.
congratz on 700k subs :)
the duo is back!
I love that Peter is watching this, and trying to figure out how he’s gonna have to do a video talking about why he’s staying with the EOS R 😂
McKinnon?
@@techtt6213 Yep
I mean he is a Canon ambassador so thats why
but the eos r do have 8 bit 4 2 2 so peter might use that as a reason
@@gwm-btdbattlesagar.ioandmo9988 Sony 10bit 422
Time 3:09 I can't help loving how Canon reproduces Blues.
Awesome comparison! These were both at the top of my list and you’ve convinced me on the Sony. The R5 overheat timer takes it out of the running for me.
Connor was one of my best Photography students. Great modeling, Connor!
What i'd like to see in any camera that supports IBIS is a 'star track" mode for night photography, where it moves the sensor around to match the stars during long exposures
That would be pretty awesome, while they're at it, a subject tracking pan assist would be equally cool.
@@p4inmaker I think this already happens, because i've seem my Sony A7iii 'wobble' even if on a tripod, it could just be that it was tracking the majority of the motion on the sensor, or it could be something else
@@denvera1g1 As far as I know they only compensate for movement of the body right now.
Most cameras (and lenses) with stabilization move around even on a tripod, that's why its often recommended to turn stabilization off.
Pentax does that
Interesting to see that at the vlog part especially, the canon skin tones look off, kindo greenish, and the sony skin tones look amazing, nice and peachy.
Cool video, like the style.
Thank you for this review! It helped me with my choice completely!!
At 7:40 Gene bragging about the big HDMI port on Sony a7siii. 😂😂
What hot shoe mount were you using to connect both cameras, for the “same shot”? I have a project that would benefit from that type of setup. Thanks.
It really does depend so much on what you plan to use it for. I think Sony's done a way better job with the A7SIII but some will inevitably benefit more from the R5 based on their individual needs and gear.
dannng you guys go around my area all the time and i never catch you guys ever haha, thanks for the video boiss
3:30 "I'm just going to go ahead and tell ya, it's a real f*ckin problem huh huh 😂😂😂
Potato Jet, You could make an update to this video since new R5 firmware brought 240fps and limited overheating issues. I think many people would like to watch it :)
That intro was perfect!
I thought I was going buy the R5. Then decided to get the Sony. And now I’m going with the Fuji xt4! It’s been a struggle. The reason for not going for the Sony was Messing with proxy files for editing:/ seems like that was an issue for everyone that reviewed the camera? And I still get the sweetness 240fps.
I feel the Canon 5D had a certain full frame hyperreal magic that was lost when i moved to A7s and I would love to go back to Canon, especially for stills options but sadly the Sony hot shoe XLR adaptor is the deal breaker.
Great video as always, although not sure why sharpness equals image quality.. Soft image isn't bad at all. I would rather have a soft but beautiful image than sharp and digital looking.
Totally agree!!
You can soften in post or using certain lenses. However, you can not recover detail that wasn't recorded in the first place.
If you don't care about sharpness, you should still care about dynamic range..
Great revue. I've been leaning towarn Sony but had reservations. I think I"ll watch the A7s3 for a while and see what happens when it's been out for a few months. Thanks Gene.
Great comparison, have you tried the Fuji X-T4 to compare? I know it is Full Frame vs APC but I keep hearing great things about the Fuji video.
Me: Man I haven’t seen Gene post on the vlog channel for a minute....
Potato Jet Releases 25 minute comparison video featuring another TH-cam channel and a bunch of cool scenes and environments’
Me: Ahhh I get it now! see you next week brotha 😂
Pretty sure that's incorrect about the batteries, it gives you a warning on the Canon EOS-R, but it lets you use a non-Canon battery. Has that changed?
Your INTRO is astonishing... I watched it several times just for intro :)
Such a great video, i stayed to watch the adverts in support 😢✊
At 6:50 to 7:10 the focus, clarity and color of the R5 clearly outstrips the Sony even when viewed on my phone. Along with the superior IBIS shown at 12:10 those are big advantages for the R5 in typical use. With an Atomos there are no heating issues for 4K hq (along with v1.1 firmware improvements) and the video quality goes up even more. Sony wins on low light, but unless that’s your main requirement the R5 wins for video and that’s not even mentioning 8k, which, while a memory, processing beast, dominates the Sony in all but night shots.
ah, yes. our lovely daily music commentary video.
What nor Sony neither Canon can match, is Potato's smile & friendship 😎
Now that was a good comparison video. Honest and unbiased.
I’ve just got the R5 and. Have used it on shoots lasting 4-5 hours shooting a mixture of 4kHQ Video and stills Ive had no problem. Firmware 1.1
The Sony does seem like an amazing video camera, Im mostly stills so loving the R5. I have a USB powered dummy battery that works fine with the R5 so it is possible, not sure whats causing the problem for Armando - maybe not USB?
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Hey Potato, always find your video informative and entertained. Maybe I missed some of your videos, but have you reviewed the Panasonic S1H ? What's your take on it and how it compared to latest now like R5 and 7S3. Thanks man.
I think if I needed a camera to use for the next 2 -3 years R5. I believe software changes will open up a lot for the user.
For the next year and a half I’ll go with Sony.
I don’t like buying cameras so often at that price because I can’t haha.
"you can have it after the shoot" thats the kind of people we want to be friends with sometimes...
Thanks for all your vids. But why are you Vlogging with the C300MK3?? Or is it your all-rounder? Im hopefully upgrading from the MK2 soon.
Filming with 240 fps may sound great, but I would not compromise for the clear loss of resolution. Agree that Sony may be a fraction sharper comparing 120/120 fps. I think the gap can be easily adjusted in post. Canon R 5 and Sony A7S III are both fantastic cameras. I personally give the look and image philosophy of Canon a plus.
I remember everyone hating the EOS-R when it dropped. After updates, they were back on that Canon tip. I see a repeat happening.
They newer fixed eos r
@@mskalo-1848 Actually they did. I have 2. The eye AF was the main reason people bagged on it. After update, it's a beast. I'm a stills shooter though so 4k and 8k don't give me a reason to move on.
Terrence W i was talking about video but the eye af was a great for photos. I don’t see the point of updating to r5 if you aren’t sport photographer or have money to spend.
R5 image quality is outstanding ❤️, I hope they can resolve the overheating problem soon.
CF Express cards are the issue....ask anyone if the R5 feels hot. Not a single part of the bodies ever hear up. The cards cannot consume the data fast enough. Right now the solution is to run an external recorder.
@@twothbeave Only CF Express cards? normal sd cards works better on R5 then?
@@JeroniZmo they do but normal SD cards aren't fast enough.
My mic jack broke last week on the a7iii. Good to hear it's not just me.
You’re so easy to love, Potato Jet!
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!!! FINALLYYYY!!!
There's literally EVERY reason to get the sony if you're a Canon R5 preorderer. I currently use the A7 III, and I'm DEFINITELY get the A7s III as soon as I can sell my A7 III!
I'm assuming you dont shoot stills? That 12mp sensor will not be great for stills. So dont sell your A7 III :)
@@outoforder0 lol the 12mp is not as bad as you think, unless ofc you do prints or scaling. Most social medias (where you post your pictures) are good enough for the pictures. Dare i say it'll even be good enough for most clients in weddings. Plus a lot of software these days with AI tech samples pictures so good you won't be able to tell if it's 12mp. This is a video focused camera after all if you want true professional cameras then mirrorless is probably not the way to go in the first place lol.
@@joshualeejiavui thats hard to say. 8mp is just barely big ehough to print 8x10 at 300dpi. 12 would give you a little wiggle room for cropping but not much. You wont beable to make a wallpaper for 4k display without stretching the image. And its going to be less sharp in general. I seriously doubt any professional photographer is going consider the A7s III, because of all these handicaps. The R5 and the A7s seem to be developed with the exact opposite philosophy. R5 = camera w some video option, while A7s = camcorder that can kind of take pictures in a pinch.
Great video, made my decision. I have an A7SIII in the B&H cart as we speak👍🏽
One thing... you can quickly adapt almost any lens to SONY FE cameras, including RF lenses (and medium format, and 6 other major FF brands/types). However, not the other way around.
Even though in the past Sony camera's used to overheat, they were still usable after couple of minutes rest.
From what I've seen the R5 has a long cooling down period which makes it literally a brick.
I read somewhere that someone did a teardown, and the R5 was built to overheat with both hardware and firmware. Like they had less thermal pads, and even when thermal pads were replaced with thermal paste for full coverage, it still overheats and didn't show any improvements in record time.
You can record unlimited with a atomos ninja but you have to take out memory cards. Apparently the Cfexpress card is what triggers the overheating.
@@professionalpotato4764 oh really? That I need to see
@@chronocross85 yeah that's what I saw too. Quite ridiculous actually. Invest hundreds of dollars more in order to make a 3500 dollar camera work 🤷
Yeah, that's what was fun about those early overheating Sony's: they were scrappy about it. I kinda wished they had continued in the vein. Give me 4K60 on my a9/a9ii. I know it's capable of it, and I really don't care if it overheats after 20 minutes, or if I have to tape an ice pack to the back of it. I'm a big boy, I can make those decisions for myself!
Canon is coming out with a Cinema camera for the R series, that might make you switch back to Canon because of the lenses, the new Canon ibis seems pretty good,
The red Komodo has an rf mount
Which one
@@BTdifferent The C series! Like the R5 C that came out today. However, I myself bought the new Sony a7 iv and the new MacBook Pro base 16 inch last year. So although I think the RF lens are super awesome, I think canon can’t help but put certain Limitations on its cameras that just doesn’t make it worth it at the moment. It’s always one thing or another that’s a deal breaker. It seems like the appeal with Sony is that it just works, just like apple comouters. Also Sony being a Film and cinema company also, along with gaming and tv producers, it makes sense that it provides good video, not only for big budget, but for the average population like it’s ps5 systems. Sony definitely leading from the front of the pack at the moment. It’s nice to be onboard!
That slow motion though ahah of Conner.... *standing ovation
@Potato Jet - Nice work but according the skintones/color with the R5 at 7:05 looks a bit better.. Don't you think ? Which camera did u use at 8:13 to film when you re talking ?
“Im not Jason Vong”, switches to Sony. Lol
Jk love your videos, Jason is #2 in my heart
Jason Vong is like Potato Jet w/o the charm :)
Jason is just as charming, i love them both ;)
@@BryanBenoitPhoto I like Vong and his girlfriend, they are cool.
Please, does anybody know how the 1080p 24fps and 1080p 120fps look on Canon R6 and Sony a7sIII? Which one looks sharper? Is the Canon R6's 120fps slowed down in camera, or can you slow it down on computer? Camera reviewers are only comparing 4K modes but there are a lot of users who want to use 1080p. Are Canon and Sony telling the reviewers to not use the 1080p modes? Thank you!🙏
Nekojitablog un saludo ! Desde UK
En la primera pregunta, se ve con más contorno la canon, y la segunda no se, pero espero que os sirva me encantan vuestros vídeos un saludo
Generally no one uses 1080p recording on professional environments anymore. You can always downscale 4K to 1080p in post if needed for a very clear image quality but never vice versa
@@arianakaviani3315 this is not true. Both Cinema, television and advertising are still in 2K/FHD environments. I am a cinematographer myself.
If ur just shooting in 1080 might as well just buy older bodies or a6600
This camera already have 4k 120 so shooting in 1080 120 is stupid
Just got my R5 today - no regrets what so ever - go great with my EF and RF lenses - the RF 15-35 2.8 IS USM is a beast! Let’s hope your poor EOS R finds a good home some day 😢😢😢
Gene, I love your videos and your channel! Yeah, I am subscribed to both of your channels. I have a Lumix G85 4K, and I am not a real Photog in any sense of the word. I am not upgrading soon, I used to have a Sony a5000 and loved it, but I gave it to my daughter. I would upgrade to a Sony A7S3 in a heartbeat if I wanted to upgrade. Thank you for your videos and keep up the great work!!!
Surprising conclusion, but 240 frames is the sell point for me.
Not overheating is mine haha
#true
It looks like poop. Go pro slow mo is better
@@NickCorona lmao
buy the Phantom Flex 4k. It has up to 2000 frames.
Canon has almost solved the overheating issues with firmware version 1.6 and moreover also introduced Canon C-Log3, and I think it's in a league of its own for a hybrid camera as of now!
this is true? the overheating problem i salready solved with this update firmware?
@@MrMellinho69 yes in my personal experience, no more over heating
@@abhishekmisra7788 even when you are shooting a long interview? My concern is actually about this kind of shooting situations, like a 4k long inetrview
@@MrMellinho69 other than 30 minutes record limit, everything is flawless
Thank you for the adapted lens focus preview... Looks solid on the sigma
I'm still using SONY for my vids and Canon for my stills, but I want to switch my still cameras to mirrorless. So eventually, may end up getting both! Keep on grinding!
I am happy to hear the choice for the R5, looking at the format it's simple, we are still talking about photocamera's. If you want a pro video camera the c500 mkii is it. For photography the R5 is the king.
Wow, switching to Sony makes Potato Jet a potty-mouth.
Great video! Cant wait for my Sony to arrive!
Smallrig makes a top handle that works on all cameras w/ a record button just need to get the one with the cable you need. Using it on my A7iii now and love it.